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mikemike
03-30-2006, 08:04 PM
so like christopher reeve's death changed season 4 for the worse, i think that the possibility for season 6 changed the way the clark-lana relationship was written. ill get into that more later, but i first wanna give my 2 cents about the the episode.

i've always been a lana fan, and i could never wait for the two of them to finally became a couple. i figured the writers would let them be happy, have some fun, and generally write them a nice, satisfying little relationship before it was finally over for good. that clearly didnt happen... their relationship was almost more painful and boring to watch than them pining over one another for 4 seasons. i always hated chloe, but i am now a bigger chloe fan than anything else. they have been writing her character so well this season.

i liked how they came up with a new angle of CLARK growing out of LANA. i just wish they gave more of a reason for it. i figured it was the whole jonathan vs. lana situation from "reckoning" that made his feelings turn cold toward her, but they didnt use that as an explanation. he should have spelled it out better for her, instead of "kicking her in the teeth" like someone said earlier. i mean... this is a pivotal moment for clark and the future of superman... SO, either clark IS still in love with her and lied to her because he is protecting her, or we got some shoddy writing. are we really supposed to believe that clark and lana wont get back together after lana FINALLY does find out clark's secret? because it seems like a sure thing for whenever that happens.

for season 6, i bet they'll either get them together AGAIN, or they'll pull the "lana is a creepy obsessive clark-stalker" card from the comics after she finds out.

-mike

Welling Is Hot
03-30-2006, 08:05 PM
I don't think it needs to revolve around a love backstory at all I mean the first couple seasons really did not they had plenty of action and FOTWs to keep it going why not do the same with 6 and they haven't even tapped the vastness of the mythos yet

mikemike
03-30-2006, 08:07 PM
i think they will stray even further away from the FOTW formula next season. the only criticisms ive read of this season mentioned FOTW's, and i bet that the writers/gough/millar are finally catching on.

thehenry89
03-30-2006, 08:07 PM
or maybe with any luck lana will be driving along one of smallvilles trade mark wet roads and she'll whitney fordman her car into a tree get amnesia and forget clark ever exsited.

mikemike
03-30-2006, 08:08 PM
don't give them any ideas. we know how much they like to pull the "amnesia" card as well...

Welling Is Hot
03-30-2006, 08:09 PM
Probably not the show is running out of time and everything has to be in line with the superman mythos

mikemike
03-31-2006, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Welling Is Hot
Probably not the show is running out of time and everything has to be in line with the superman mythos

not really... clark has barely finished a single semester in college yet.

LexLuthorMetropolis
03-31-2006, 01:28 PM
As much as I hate to say this all their going to do is drag out the story with whatever plotline they can make on the fly and make it last as long as it can. Even if it's the worst storyline EVER.

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by mikemike
i think they will stray even further away from the FOTW formula next season.

:lol:

No matter what season Smallville is in. They will always have FOTWs.

Watching Smallville
03-31-2006, 02:32 PM
I don't like to think that this show is about Clark and Lana. I like to think it's about Clark Kent maturing into the hero we know as Superman. Season Six could be awesome if that's what TPB focused on. At this point, Clark still has a long way to go. If they took him on that journey for the last season, it could be the best SV year of all.

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 04:04 PM
The show is about Clark becoming Superman. He can't become Superman if he still keeps chasing after Lana. He needs to get over that and that's what this season's become about.

CallMeClark
03-31-2006, 04:32 PM
Season 6 will be all about Pre-Clois. Lana will have moved on.

cmm
03-31-2006, 04:44 PM
curious but does anyone thing season 6 will be the last?

CallMeClark
03-31-2006, 04:48 PM
Possibly. However I hope, liek Buffy, it will have 7.

sherw1n
03-31-2006, 04:48 PM
I agree, theres needs to be a good reason to continue the show instead of drag it out to a bitter end...

If this season is about Clark not needing lana what the heck were the other seasons for?

This break up and together cycle between clark and lana has been going on a lot longer than this season and its just tiresome and boring.

I'd really like to start seeing Lex turn more to the dark side and have a good ongoing story plot throughout the season, i'm really tired of these freaks of the week showing up and disappearing after one episode.

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 04:59 PM
They'll always find a way to mix things up next season. Maybe they'll have the Eradicator or another rmember of the Justice League/Teen Titans show up.

cmm
03-31-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by sherw1n
I agree, theres needs to be a good reason to continue the show instead of drag it out to a bitter end...

If this season is about Clark not needing lana what the heck were the other seasons for?

This break up and together cycle between clark and lana has been going on a lot longer than this season and its just tiresome and boring.

I'd really like to start seeing Lex turn more to the dark side and have a good ongoing story plot throughout the season, i'm really tired of these freaks of the week showing up and disappearing after one episode.

your comment is exactly the reason why i asked my question. Where else is there to go?

ChaaBreh
03-31-2006, 05:06 PM
I personally disliked the way Clark and Lana broke up. I think that one of the reasons that Clark can't/won't tell Lana is because he knows she's close to Lex and he'll somehow pry his secret out of her one way or the other.

But just two episodes ago, he told Lana that he always loved her and always will. Now he says that his feelings have changed. If I was Lana I would have called him on that. She should have been able to see right thru that. They should have had a real drag-out screaming match- Lana telling Clark that he would rather deny his feelings than tell her the truth!!

This just sets things up for more angst. Now Clark is going to be jealous over her relationship with Lex. If he broke up with her because he really thinks of her as a sister, not a lover, that would have made sense. But just 3 episodes ago Clark wanted to spend the rest of his life with her and now he's willing to let her go so easily. A real man would have found a way to make it work.

I just wish they had followed comics canon and had Clark tell Lana his secret after HS graduation and then she would have been so distraught that she would have left town to get closure...leaving Clark to go to Met U and find his own destiny.

Well I guess we'll just see what happens. They're going to have to do a lot better to walk the talk of "Everything you've always wanted to see". Welll, I want to see Clark fly. He doesn't have to be in tights. It doesn't have to be expensive. He can float....All the versions said he learns to fly when he's 18....

Just do that one thing before the season's over and I'll forgive you, TPTB, for that cheesy breakup.!!

LexLuthorMetropolis
03-31-2006, 05:45 PM
Honestly they ran out of plotlines back in S3. We've been on repeat ever since. All they've done is tossed on a new shiny coat and just continue to drag it out.

Summers
03-31-2006, 06:08 PM
That's for sure. Recycled storylines and rip-offs of movie/tv shows.

LexLuthorMetropolis
03-31-2006, 06:10 PM
Let's see them try something original for once. Oh wait, they don't know how to do original.

CallMeClark
03-31-2006, 07:53 PM
There is so much material that has not been covered yet. We have yet to see the final transition into Superman. We have yet to see a Clois connection, an interest in reporting, more villians, etc...

mikemike
03-31-2006, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
There is so much material that has not been covered yet. We have yet to see the final transition into Superman. We have yet to see a Clois connection, an interest in reporting, more villians, etc...

they should have tapped something original for the second half of season 5 then... the season has had no central arc since fine's death. it just used jonathan's death and the dumb clark-lana yoyo relationship until fine's return. we've basically been waiting in limbo. at least season 4 had the stone arc.

abc123
04-01-2006, 07:45 PM
i agree with a lot of what youve said mikemike. i dont realy get why people hate the idea of clark and lana so much. smallville isn't about encapsulating every part of the mythos and introducing every character and relationship that happens in supermans later life. its about clark and what the origins of his personality and perspective are. in my opinion, lana should be a major part of that.

as far as seasons go, i think what drives the decision to continue is (unfortunately) economics: the studio has the minimum shows needed to keep the show syndicated so it doesnt make sense for them to keep making new ones and spending more money -- im almost positive it will end after season 6. but thats cool, i dont think theres really much farther to go. i think season 5 was/is actually all about lex and his transformation. the lana thing is just part of that. shes gonna date him, then discover what hes really like and drop him and thats gonna send him all the way to vader territory. at least i hope so....i wanna see the badass lex

Incus
04-02-2006, 06:38 PM
they needed a reason to puch Lana into Lex's arms. The whole speech that Martha gave Clark was forshadowing..."how far will Lana's anger at Clark take her" - Straight to Lex. For now Clark and Lana relationship is dead! Bring on some clark and chloe!

watcher4
04-02-2006, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
There is so much material that has not been covered yet. We have yet to see the final transition into Superman. We have yet to see a Clois connection, an interest in reporting, more villians, etc...

Could their 'unwillingness' or 'inability' to use that material have anything to do the the upcoming Superman movie-in that they want to be careful not to do anything to show the movie as hypocritical? Just a thought!

I just hope that TPTB do something to hold the interest of ALL the SV veiwers instead of just a select few.

:confused: :\ :( :o :mad: :eek:

auxvis
04-02-2006, 08:02 PM
Guys, Clark doesn't not love Lana...He only told her that because he needed a way for her to move on and not "wait on him" just as she had said she would do at the beginning of the episode. I think in the next few episodes or until the end of the season we are going to see exactly how this all plays out and it (hopefully) will lead to the beginning of a Clois relationship in Season 6

watcher4
04-03-2006, 06:22 PM
THE POWERS THAT BE DON'T GIVE SMALLVILLE FANS ENOUGH CREDIT FOR THEIR INTELLIGENCE!!!! :mad:

I also think that they have painted themselves in a corner!

cmm
04-03-2006, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by watcher4
THE POWERS THAT BE DON'T GIVE SMALLVILLE FANS ENOUGH CREDIT FOR THEIR INTELLIGENCE!!!! :mad:

I also think that they have painted themselves in a corner!


Part of the painted themselves into a corner is to do with clana. Everything that they've done thus far is all wrapped up in that coupling and quite frankly not every one likes clana. I have friends that barely watch smallville anymore cause of it. There just tired like me, of the yoyoing from season 2 onwards it's been about clana angst and it's getting old. Problem is no that they've finally ended it all the stuff after it just seems disjointed as weird. To me the clana relationship should have been a B plot instead of an A cause at least then the show wouldnt' seem as disjointed as it is now.

TheFlasher
04-07-2006, 07:55 AM
Personally since S2 the show has been like 'Dawsons Creek' and the 'O.C' combinded.

I dont mind the Clana thing going on..because it hasnt been totally continuous. IMO the beginning of S5 has been my favourite since S1. I guess all episodes cannot be as exciting or intriguing as POST 2nd meteor shower, because the season would only be 10-15 episodes in length.

Clark is growing up...he's like 20 now? Lana has always seemed a bit immature to me. Clois should be the way to go in S6.

But, even if S6 is the same as what we are seeing now....I will watch it anyway, just to see where TPTB are going with it.

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04-17-2006, 08:10 PM
i hope they go past season 6 and 7 and continue it past smallville i mean 1 of clarks nicknames is smallville so why couldn't they, all they'd have to do is make lois call hims smallville in the metropolis episodes?any1 agree?