worst episode in 5 year?

[treker]

how about a poll...I feel this is with out a doubt the worst episode they have ever done.

[D_bot]

Best. Episode. Ever.

[Erok-El]

See above! ^

[dcox00]

oh please,
its by far not the worst, but nor the best either. it was a good filler episode

[vanilla_bandit]

IMO this episode was far better than aqua, exposed, thirst, and fanatic in season 5.

[SlickBlonde]

if this was a filler, Im startiing to wonder what the real storyline episodes are like

[thehenry89]

don't be hatin just because clana is finaly dead

[Welling Is Hot]

Garbage... poorly written definitely pencil whipped filler no real substance whatsoever just reckless hurtful nonsense and I have something good to say about every episode even the ones people say have stunk but this one just made me mad. It's just likewatching anger management (the movie) I am not a hard core Lana fan but for crying out loud quit kicking that poor girl in the teeth... can we say suicidal tendancies?

[katt12]

If they had just shown the last ten minutes and nothing else, I'd've been just as happy with the episode as I am right now.

[boogalou86]

Not the best...not the worst...(and I'm a Clana fan)

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by katt12
If they had just shown the last ten minutes and nothing else, I'd've been just as happy with the episode as I am right now.

*claps hands* hear hear

[chole_fan]

Definitely not the worst ever. It was just okay. I think part of the problem was the expectation leading up to it. I mean, after a 6 week break I was expecting something a little more exciting. Hopefully, things will pick up from here.

Anyway, worst ever still belongs to Ageless IMO.

[amberdawn]

It was alright.

[smallville12]

This was not the worse but not the best.I didn't like the sex thing but I did like that fine came back and the Clark and Lex fight. so I would give this one a 3/5. I voted no.It is not one I would watch again and again but I liked it.

[Aloof]

I happened to like it very much! :)

[Smokethatkryptonite]

This was the best episode this season! The end of Clana! Could the writers be any kinder? What's next the return of Alicia? Clark being a real man.

[Shadow116]

I didn't want Clana to end like this but it might be sort of resolved when the season finale rolls around. I wanted Clark to tell her but I thought,nope not gonna happen. No suprise I was ticked despite not being a Clana fan but Braniac made up for it.

[Quadrotriticale]

It was lame!

[thehenry89]

this was a freakin sweet episode almost as sweet as my tether ball skills

[sefi]

Did we forget a little thing called Ageless?

[MBCorp]

It was mediocre, boring filler and horribly disjointed, but it certainly wasn't worse than Ageless. And the Fine/Lex scenes were pretty good anyway, even if the rest was complete crap.

[Ladyhawk]

Nope definately not the worst, mainly because Brainiac is back!! Chloe saves the day (again), the thump to Lois' head by Clark to knock her out. The Lana thing - didn't really see that coming but I think they were "trying" to show maturity by him letting her go, though I know it didn't play out that way to the viewers. Lex/Brainiac - seriously YUM. I'm so mad though I missed like the last minute because of some bloody weather advisory!!

[Coyote]

The hypnosis story was kinda lame, but the scenes with Lex and Brainiac were kind of interesting. Wasn't a really good episode, but it certainly wasn't the worst ever.

[biggkoz]

Everytime I watch this show over at someones house they think Im nuts for liking the show cuz its always a bad episode.

[Welling Is Hot]

Yawn

[Smokethatkryptonite]

Come on people the end of Clana for this season! No more Clana!

[cotton candy girl]

That's what you think.

[MBCorp]

Oh wait a sec, I've thought of an even worse episode than Ageless. There is no way that Hypnotic is worse than Reckoning. No way. Reckoning was the most godawful SV episode ever and no other episode before that one or after it has ever reached it's level of sheer godawfullness. Hypnotic was lousy but no way was it as bad as Reckoning.

[sstray72]

Believe me, the crown of worst episode ever is still in the iron grip of Ageless.

[myankskent]

This was an episode designed to stupidly finish off all of the storylines that TPTB needed to so they can achieve their goal of a love triangle. It is nothing more than that. Of course their real goal is a rectangle, which is why they will probably throw Chloe into the fire once the season is over.

[sstray72]

Originally posted by MBCorp
Oh wait a sec, I've thought of an even worse episode than Ageless. There is no way that Hypnotic is worse than Reckoning. No way. Reckoning was the most godawful SV episode ever and no other episode before that one or after it has ever reached it's level of sheer godawfullness. Hypnotic was lousy but no way was it as bad as Reckoning.

I hated Wreckoning/Retconning with a passion due to their complete re-wiring of Lana's brain and the time travel deux ex machina garbaggio, but JK's death and funeral was a somewhat redeeming quality.

Ageless, OTOH had the b-plot which at the time seemed like a redeeming quality, but the quick BS conclusion of the entire witch plot deleted anything that the B-plot had to offer. Ageless is by far the most gawd aweful episode EVAR.

[mikemike]

not as bad as ageless

[muffinpeddler]

I don't feel it was the worst episode, but it was very poor. Although the plot with Simone was redeemed because Lex set it up, the writers once again managed to leave a bitter taste at the end. 4 Brainiacs? Just plain stupid. And Clark couldn't have picked a worse way to break up with Lana. I would have told her what he told Chloe, sans any mentioning of powers. or just tell her about the powers!

[JD_lover5943]

Oh come on...Thirst was waaay worse. I wasn't a big fan of Aqua or Exposed either...

[shadowcat20x]

2nd worst to Unsafe

Grrrrr!

[suave_man]

Pretty good for a filler episode, IMO.

[Zungas]

Originally posted by shadowcat20x
2nd worst to Unsafe

Grrrrr!

Come On :mad:

Least favorite of Season 5.

[smallvillereporter27]

Filler episode most definatly, but it was not the worst episode. It had a few funny lines and I liked seeing Brainac back. And Clana is dead (we hope). I was just happy cause there had been no new Smallville episodes in like 6 weeks.

[vyperman7]

I have not seen this episode yet, but nothing is worse than Ageless. Reckoning runs a close second for worst episode ever though.

[shirkie]

Nothing could ever possibly be worse than "Ageless" with its magically essplowding baby-toddler-teen-KABOOM. I couldn't write worse than that if I tried.
shirkie

[BadToad]

Heck, I enjoyed it. Not a favorite by any means. But reasonably entertaining. It goes firmly in the middle of SV eps.

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by shirkie
Nothing could ever possibly be worse than "Ageless" with its magically essplowding baby-toddler-teen-KABOOM. I couldn't write worse than that if I tried.
shirkie

Hey Shirkie!

It has been ages since I have seen you post. It is good to know that you are still around.. :)

- Ryan

[bunkmania]

CLANA GOT OWNED LOL. CLANA IS OVER!!!! w00000000t Finally its time for clark to move forward. ============>

[attitudejc]

its not ALL filler. it was half and half. aren't filler episodes that you could completely miss and still understand everything else? well, about hondorous and the ship, i thought that stuff is important. and they ended Clana. alot of stuff happend. it was just simone and her jewel or whatever that made it seem like a filler. but of course, this is just all my opinion.

[F-Stop Blues]

I cant believe Clark made a mature decision. That is so OOC for him. ;)

I do not see how Clana could possibly still be alive after tonight but we have said that before but Clark was pretty steadfast about it. I just cant believe he actually broke up with her. Im so proud of him. Seriously, I am really proud of him.

Side note do the characters live in a time warp? Lana went back an forth from Metropolis to Smallville in the same night. Thats a 6 hour drive!

[attitudejc]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Lana went back an forth from Metropolis to Smallville in the same night. Thats a 6 hour drive!

she drives really fast.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by attitudejc
she drives really fast.


She doesnt seem to care at all about making that trip. She did it 3 times in this ep.

[God-Man]

no, this wasn't even the worst episode of season 5. That honor goes to "Aqua". DUD.

[attitudejc]

Originally posted by God-Man
no, this wasn't even the worst episode of season 5. That honor goes to "Aqua". DUD.

100% agree.

[Summers]

I thought "Tomb" was the worst thus far next to "Thirst" :\. This to me just wasn't executed well from the weird heat vision to the breakup scene.

[attitudejc]

ooooh, i loved "Tomb"

[AverageJoe]

I actually really really liked this episode :D :D :D

[constancelight]

Originally posted by vanilla_bandit
IMO this episode was far better than aqua, exposed, thirst, and fanatic in season 5.

I totally agree. I loved this episode! So good.

[TrevorH]

Hah, easy to tell this topic was sparked by someone who was expecting the answers of the universe that is smallville to be explained to them since the show has not been on for a month they were really fiending for it. It was a good setup epsiode, not a filler by any means but a good setup for what is to come, it really showed the way the show is starting to really shift into a new phase with the Clark, Lana break up and good vs evil really starting to step up, none of this petty stuff we have seen in the past episodes this season for a taste.

[God-Man]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
She doesnt seem to care at all about making that trip. She did it 3 times in this ep.

Ugh. That was a problem with everyone. it seemed like that in "hypnotic" everyone was traveling through wormholes.

In addition to the trips that Lana made from smallville to metropolis in record time, Lois did it as well. One minute she's in Smallville catching Clark making out with simone, the next she's in metropolis with chloe.

Also, Chloe made it to the mansion really quickly as well when clark was going to kill lex.

lex got back to smallville awfully fast too.

it was fecking crazy how easily people were going from one place to another.

[smallvillerocks45]

Originally posted by boogalou86
Not the best...not the worst...(and I'm a Clana fan)

Same here. It was decent enough. I really like Braniac, but why did the "other woman" factor have to be part of the story line?

[RedPhoenix23]

I actually like this ep, though I am more than a ticked off with Clark right now. Or I guess that would be the writers that made Clark act that way, whatever.

Worst this year would have to be Thirst. Then Tomb, then Exposed, then Fanatic and then Aqua. At least Aqua had Lex torturing someone with a glass of water for calling him a "tool"! :eek: LOL, and the accidental homoeroticism was hilarous in that one too.

[God-Man]

Originally posted by TrevorH
It was a good setup epsiode, not a filler by any means but a good setup for what is to come, it really showed the way the show is starting to really shift into a new phase with the Clark, Lana break up and good vs evil really starting to step up, none of this petty stuff we have seen in the past episodes this season for a taste.

Agreed. this ep was not filler IMO. We saw some big developments in the series in "hypnotic":

the end of Clana. Forever. (right?)

and

braniac's return.

[smallvillerocks45]

Originally posted by attitudejc
she drives really fast.

LoL! That's why she hit Shelby. :D


- Oh, and I agree with the posts that say this was a good set up for what's to come. It really is. Bring on the Braniac, bring on the action packed Supermanesque stuff we've been waiting for. I'm excited!

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by God-Man


it was fecking crazy how easily people were going from one place to another.



Wait..I figured it out how they move so fast through time and space. They use Darkseid's boom tube. All is explained, you are all welcome.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by attitudejc
she drives really fast.

guess that's why she's always hitting cyborgs and buses, huh? Hey, guess the Reckoning crash wasn't Lex's fault!

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by shirkie
Nothing could ever possibly be worse than "Ageless" with its magically essplowding baby-toddler-teen-KABOOM. I couldn't write worse than that if I tried.
shirkie
MBCorp, as much as I must bow with respect to your utter contempt for Reckoning, I have to go with Shirkie on the worst ep of all time. :rolleyes:

Hypnotic was so much better than I expected. I actually liked it.

[Luthorville]

Tied "unsafe" for worst.

[CallMeClark]

It was one of my favorites. The Brainiac plot lines and all the Chloe and Lois make it EXCELLENT in my book.

[Platinum9703]

It was above average compare to Thrist, Magnetic and Ageless.

[perinejo]

I hated this episode.
It played out like a Mary Sue fanfic; complete with utterly cliched lines (more than usual), sex, and of course, the evil person dies but no followup is given.

Everything about this episode was horrible.

Still not as bad as Ageless; Hypnotic at least had the high point of Clana FINALLY being over. I'm not all anti-Clana, but I really hate it when you beat a dead horse EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.

[basketballstar23]

Originally posted by Aloof
I happened to like it very much! :)

i just think clana is WAY better than lexana 4 2 reasons:1: lex is like way older than lana2:they don't fit together...its just not right.

i didn't like the episode...i refused to watch it after the first 5 minutes...:mad:

[Annihilator]

i did not like this epsiode as there was nohing happening. i like it when they use their powers and blow up stuff but in this episode it was just talking. Exmas episode is the worst ever.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

This tops it!

[smallvillerocks45]

I don't know...maybe it's just me, but I thought "Ageless" was great! I liked this episode too, but I couldn't stand that Simone girl. She's was aweful. Yet, I LOVE Braniac, so I was happy anyway.

Clana's breakup saddens me a little, because I really like Clark and Lana together, but in a way I'm glad it's over. Every episode was something like, when are we going to do this(?), why don't we ever do that(?)...that's not fun to watch. If they had acted more like they did in Mortal for the majority of the episodes that they were a couple, I would've been more upset about the fact that they broke up.
Anyway, the point I'm really trying to make is that this episode wasn't that bad (if you don't count Simone, of course)...and "Ageless" wasn't that bad either IMO. (I had to squeeze that in! LoL)

[attitudejc]

okay, i gonna have to ask this cause its bugging me. what does IMO mean?
back on topic
i didn't think that it was that bad either. i kinda liked it. and (like i said before) it most definately wasn't a filler.

[i love u tom]

Originally posted by Luthorville
Tied "unsafe" for worst.

:eek: omg i loved unsafe... for the fact of clark ;) NOT ALICIA

i only caught the last 1/2 hour of hypnotic but i didnt like the end at all. (and its not because im a clana person, i just didnt like it.)


Originally posted by attitudejc
okay, i gonna have to ask this cause its bugging me. what does IMO mean?

THANK YOU! I WANT TO KNOW TOO!

[smallvillerocks45]

IMO means in my opinion. :D

[SteveS]

Any Lois-centric episode was worst than last night including her most sterling example, Aqua.

[clois1938]

Thirst and Ageless were much worse. I love all Lois, Brainiac, Lex episodes. Anything Superman-esque. The best parts of this ep were the Martha/Lois humor and the b-plot with Lex/Brainiac. I just wish the writers would flesh out the Brainiac arc more.

[smallvillerocks45]

More Braniac is always a good thing...so is more action, which this episode was lacking. I'd like to see some more of that. (LoL that line reminded me of Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite! :D)

[Wheelz]

This episode was practically an all-star episode of shameless plot devices. Sex, mind control, kryptonite, Someone getting knocked out in time to miss Clark's display of superpowers, Lana forgiving Clark, and (filling in for Jonathon) Martha steps in with a last minute platitude. All that was missing was a case of amnesia.

[attitudejc]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
IMO means in my opinion. :D

ooohhhh, thanks, that was driving me crazy!

[mikemike]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Every episode was something like, when are we going to do this(?), why don't we ever do that(?)...that's not fun to watch. If they had acted more like they did in Mortal for the majority of the episodes that they were a couple, I would've been more upset about the fact that they broke up.

watching them pine over eachother for 4 seasons was more interesting than watching their miserable, unsatisfying relationship for a few episodes. who knew that 4 seasons of lust and longing would have lead to the most boring and pointless relationship in the world.

who knows, maybe they purposely wrote a pathetic relationship so we could all beg for the writers to break them up... i just dont get why they kept us hanging for so many years only to see everything unfold like this.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by dcox00
oh please,
its by far not the worst, but nor the best either. it was a good filler episode

That's the problem! Too many filler episodes!

[tw190]

Definintely not the worst episode. Not the best either, but OK. Not a bad filler episode, especially the Lex/Brainiac plot.

[PKII]

Originally posted by treker
how about a poll...I feel this is with out a doubt the worst episode they have ever done.

Any episode without a Freak of the Week is a good episode. :)

[Xsmallville_obsessedX]

I liked this episode! :D No, it wasn't the greatest episode in five years, but no it wasn't the worst. Spell, anyone? What about Lucy? Aqua? These were horrible! :D

[luthorcorp]

yeah right

if you seen ageless you wouldent be saying that at all

[RedPhoenix23]

I think the pole speaks for itself with 101 "no's" to a measly 35 "yes's" so far.

[attitudejc]

it wasn't ALL filler.

[hanemg]

I have to say, in my own opinion it was either the worst episode ever or at least among the bottom 5. Maybe I’m just tired of the same old nonsense being repeated over and over again, but sometimes I think the writers just have no clue how to structure things and not only don’t think 5 steps ahead, but don’t think at all.

I knew that Clark and Lana would eventually break up, but when they did I at least thought the entire matter would make sense.

First of all, why wouldn’t Clark tell Lana his secret? We and he both know that she would take it well because he already told her in one version of history on the show and she not only took it well, but agreed to marry him. I mean even ignoring the fact that in “Reckoning” it would have made much more sense for him to have still told Lana the second time and simply warned her about Lex (I mean seriously, “honey, I have super powers and I’m an alien” is OK, but for God’s sake don’t tell her you traveled back through time and why?!), but why couldn’t he tell her now? There’s never been a good reason for this.

Secondly, for me at least I need to see why Lois ends up being “the one” when Lana didn’t. I don’t want to see her as the consolation prize because he couldn’t be with Lana. That’s stupid. Clark and Lana needed to not work simply because of Clark and Lana not because “well, duh, if only I had figured out how to juggle my public and secret identities before I could have been with Lana. Oh well, at least I have Lois I guess.” Again, that’s stupid.

Maybe I’m just frustrated at this point, but I think the writers have done a poor job so far with the overall story. Sure, there have been plenty of really good standout episodes, but as far as keeping any long range plan in mind to move things along …well, I haven’t seen it.

Clark’s going to be a world class journalist, but so far I haven’t seen him writing since sometime in early to mid high school and I never really saw an interest despite his lame essay to his principal. The same with Lois.

I understand that they want to show all of the main characters as being far from their eventual destinies, but they still need to at some point at least show a direction beginning to form. Drawing out a storyline for an original series is one thing, but even when you’re dealing with fictional characters when the overall story is known to the general population it gets silly after awhile. It would be like George Lucas doing 20 prequels to Star Wars and never once showing any hint of Anakin’s volatile personality just to give the illusion of keeping us guessing only to suddenly end it with a rushed footnote that “…and Anakin decided to turn to the Dark Side and kill all of the other Jedi. The End.”

This late in the game TPTB need…to paraphrase the old saying…to defecate or vacate the porcelain waste disposal unit.

The only saving grace in this entire episode was the Brainiac arc. Milton Fine is at least an interesting character and fun to watch as he manipulates and stays a dozen steps ahead of everyone else.

Other than that though the episode in my opinion was pitiful.

[Krypton935]

That ep sucked. Totally cheesy!

[CallMeClark]

LOVED it! Way to pull us back in after those three filler episodes. Now we begin to get serious. The subplots are awesome.

[commencement_rox]

im a clana fan and this wasnt the worst episode but it wasnt the worst

[treker]

Originally posted by commencement_rox
im a clana fan and this wasnt the worst episode but it wasnt the worst

It was the worst slap in the face to the fans of a show that I have ever witnessed!

[Watching Smallville]

I didn't feel slapped, and I'm a fan. For people who were waiting for Clark and Lana to solve their relationship, then this episode was probably very disappointing. But for me this show is not about Clark and Lana -- it's about Clark Kent becoming Superman. I'm glad to see them get on with that story.

[GooN]

i voted No because this wasn't the worst episode.....but certain parts of it were pretty bad. There have been much worse episodes then this, maybe the fact that it came after a long break is why people are angry....retrospect is the best perspective :D

[shirkie]

I still can't believe this is being discussed. AGELESS, darnit, AGELESS. Exploding baby! Exploding toddler! Exploding teenager! Lana falling off a windmill! Now, compare that to "Hypnotic," where we actually saw some cool stuff like Lex completely using a semi-FoTW to FORCIBLY BREAK UP CLARK AND LANA, the return of baddie Brainiac, the foreshadowing of something sinister going on down in Honduras, then the END of the Clark/Lana ship. How is all of that worse than the essplooooowwwding baby/toddler/teen???
shirkie

[Watching Smallville]

It's not. :rolleyes:

[lois incognito]

ok I have to say I liked this episode, except for simone.
Nothing is worse than ageless, I don't know if you could get a worse episode as ageless, I'm embarresed to even watch it, except for the luthors vs. teagues plot. No this seasons worst episode, for me anyway, goes to aqua.

[The Shadow]

I don't feel like the episode was that poorly written. I think if anyone wanted to they could find a problem with every episode from every season.

If you have any knowledge of Superman's history at all you know for a fact Clark and Lana never get together. So why is this such a shock that their doing this?

Yes, I to have grown quite tired of the back and forth they've done with their relationship over the years but that's the nature of this medium. Most every show that I've watched over the years that's had a "popular couple" go back and forth and then finally get together has tanked after that. The thing that keeps bringing people back is the sexual tension and not the resolution. Nobody wants to see them "happly ever after" because that wouldn't lead him to becoming Superman and it would be boring.

I would like them however to resolve this little "plot device" they've got going with him not having sex because he may hurt someone. Please! Give it a rest. This was one of the dumbest things about Superman 2....that he acutally had to become human to be with Lois. What utter crap. He's been married and they've been together in the books without this nonsense. If Superman can pickup a glass without crushing it then he can sure as heck keep himself in control long enough to have sex.

And this isn't a protest in regards to them putting more love scenes on the show because that's now what I want. I just want them to use a little common sense and not treat the audience like were stupid.

Anwyay....to get back on track.

Even though the main plot might have been a little clunky this episode is an important part to where the rest of this season is headed and the series.

:It established that Lex is more than willing to do whatever it takes to get Lana to love him.

:It showed that Brainiac is planning on using some sort of bio-weapon to blackmail Clark into helping him by holding the human race hostage so that he'll free Zod.

:And it establishes how Lana and Lex become involved because of Clark's actions.

I'd say for it being a "filler episode" that it still plays an important role in the grand scheme of things.

Also, for those people whining about how Clark could do this to Lana, just stop and think. Everytime Clark has tried to get close to Lana someone ends up getting hurt....usually Lana. Their relationship was doomed from the start. His very arrival on Earth took away the two people she cared about the most! Now if that isn't foreshadowing then I don't know what is. He even told her the truth and look what happened she died. Then he goes back to save her and he looses his father.

Sometimes the best thing to do if you love something so much is to let it go. This is what Clark had to do. His destiny is not about settling down and raising a family yet. He has to be set on the path to become Superman and serve the greater good. I think this is what Jor-El has tried to teach him.......not to be selfish.

[lois incognito]

I agree with the whole sex part. I mean didn't Jor-El and Lana's great aunt do it or they were about to. I think that part is a little overplayed. I don't know. Though it's about time for their relationship to end.

[hanemg]

Also, for those people whining about how Clark could do this to Lana, just stop and think. Everytime Clark has tried to get close to Lana someone ends up getting hurt....usually Lana. Their relationship was doomed from the start. His very arrival on Earth took away the two people she cared about the most! Now if that isn't foreshadowing then I don't know what is. He even told her the truth and look what happened she died. Then he goes back to save her and he looses his father.
I knew Clark and Lana weren’t going to end up together. I knew they would eventually break up and we would see it happen. I know Clark will end up with Lois and more importantly I want him to end up with Lois.

My problem though is that when Clark and Lana ended I wanted to see it ended. I wanted it to make sense. I wanted Clark to feel bittersweet, but know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Lana wasn’t “the one”. I wanted that to be demonstrated from Clark and his actions not just some lame throw away comment made by Martha.

Unfortunately, what we got instead was Clark breaking up with Lana, yet again, for her own good because he was afraid to tell her his secret. Not because he realized he wasn’t in love with her. Not because he realized she wasn’t “the one”. Not for any good reason at all, but the same nonsensical circular logic we’ve seen since season 1.

That’s not furthering the plot. That’s not character growth. That’s simply a set up for more Clark and Lana angst for the rest of the season to come as Lana moves closer to Lex and Clark blames himself for pushing her away and suffers in not quite silence at his heroic sacrifice in loving her so much that he let her go.

That’s why the episode failed for me. I didn’t see resolution I just saw the same old tired plot recycled yet again because it was time for Clark and Lana to break up. I wanted a true breakup with Clark and Lana each now ready to move on to the next chapter in their lives, but instead I got angst version 5.0 with Clark still in love with Lana and feeling sorry for himself because he had to give her up for “her own good”.

[The Shadow]

Originally posted by hanemg
I knew Clark and Lana weren’t going to end up together. I knew they would eventually break up and we would see it happen. I know Clark will end up with Lois and more importantly I want him to end up with Lois.

My problem though is that when Clark and Lana ended I wanted to see it ended. I wanted it to make sense. I wanted Clark to feel bittersweet, but know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Lana wasn’t “the one”. I wanted that to be demonstrated from Clark and his actions not just some lame throw away comment made by Martha.

Unfortunately, what we got instead was Clark breaking up with Lana, yet again, for her own good because he was afraid to tell her his secret. Not because he realized he wasn’t in love with her. Not because he realized she wasn’t “the one”. Not for any good reason at all, but the same nonsensical circular logic we’ve seen since season 1.

That’s not furthering the plot. That’s not character growth. That’s simply a set up for more Clark and Lana angst for the rest of the season to come as Lana moves closer to Lex and Clark blames himself for pushing her away and suffers in not quite silence at his heroic sacrifice in loving her so much that he let her go.

That’s why the episode failed for me. I didn’t see resolution I just saw the same old tired plot recycled yet again because it was time for Clark and Lana to break up. I wanted a true breakup with Clark and Lana each now ready to move on to the next chapter in their lives, but instead I got angst version 5.0 with Clark still in love with Lana and feeling sorry for himself because he had to give her up for “her own good”.


I don't totally disagree with you on that and I see where your coming from, but.....

You won't see anything like that until the end of the series. This type of situation won't occur until Clark is ready to leave Smallville, move to Metroplis and become Superman.

The way I'd like to see it is Lana finding out on her own and finally understanding why he acted like he did and why they could never be together.

It would also be a nice twist to not only have Lana find out and except that the world needs him more than she does but set him on the path by designing the suit for him instead of Martha like the books always showed. It would be a nice way to keep a part of Lana always with Clark.

I think the final scene of the series should be Clark putting on the suit (not the new movie version) that Lana made for him and saying goodbye and flying off......maybe to stop some major disaster in Metroplis or something.

This current sitaution between him and Lana is only a setup to drive the final nail in the coffin as far as Lex and Clark's friendship goes.

I'm also guessing the season finale will have Clark having to choose between saving Martha and Lois on the plane or stopping Zod and Brainiac from taking over Earth.

[Matt Murdock]

I won't say worst, but it's up there.

[livn_life]

I would like them however to resolve this little "plot device" they've got going with him not having sex because he may hurt someone. Please! Give it a rest. This was one of the dumbest things about Superman 2....that he acutally had to become human to be with Lois. What utter crap. He's been married and they've been together in the books without this nonsense. If Superman can pickup a glass without crushing it then he can sure as heck keep himself in control long enough to have sex.

I have to agree here. What's he afraid of? His sperm shooting through her body? As with any teenage boy, I'm sure he's "dated Miss Michigan" and could tell if the results shot through the roof or not. If it's about him losing control and breaking her arm or something, I think that if he can pet a dog or pick up a glass, he can refrain from killing his lover.

[BlueNRed2]

After having some time to mull the episode over, i cant say that it is the worst but it wasnt a very good epy imo. Especially considering it was chosen to set the pace for the rest of the season after the short break.

For me the season started out really strong but ive been getting a little irritated with the direction as of late. Although, im not a clana shipper, i felt miffed at the way they have handled closure in that department. I wouldnt doubt that it has been done this way to accomidate a more believable Lexana setup but at what expense?

Anywho, the clana rift was inevitable but i think the way it has been brought about hasnt done the series justice....

[treker]

Originally posted by BlueNRed2
After having some time to mull the episode over, i cant say that it is the worst but it wasnt a very good epy imo. Especially considering it was chosen to set the pace for the rest of the season after the short break.

For me the season started out really strong but ive been getting a little irritated with the direction as of late. Although, im not a clana shipper, i felt miffed at the way they have handled closure in that department. I wouldnt doubt that it has been done this way to accomidate a more believable Lexana setup but at what expense?

Anywho, the clana rift was inevitable but i think the way it has been brought about hasnt done the series justice....

I couldn't agree more...it's about time somebody else spoke this truth.

The one thing that has irritated me the most about this season has been that they could have avoided all of this by not putting Clark and Lana back together this season. They could have left them friends. That's what they were last season. They were broke up and dating other people...helping each other when necessary because they cared about each other and were friends.

The reason I've said that they slapped the fans in the face is due to them putting them back together for a few episodes and then destoyed them a short time later. It cheapons thier relationship and damages the potential of smallville continuing for several more seasons.

I saw in TV guide today that Clark will not be getting with anyone the rest of the season. He's going to be to preoccupied with Lex and Braniac trying to destroy mankind.

[vyperman7]

Actually Trekker,

I beg to differ.

Clark and Lana were not friends last season at all. They stayed away from each other for the whole season up until Blank. Then from then on out, they were painted in the light of probably getting back together.

Lana was upset at Clark, especially after what happened in Transference. So he ignored him.

[treker]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Actually Trekker,

I beg to differ.

Clark and Lana were not friends last season at all. They stayed away from each other for the whole season up until Blank. Then from then on out, they were painted in the light of probably getting back together.

Lana was upset at Clark, especially after what happened in Transference. So he ignored him.

in the 3rd episode of season 4 Lana came to clark and asked him about the drawings in the cave. Even though she came to see Jason - Lana had a friendly conversation in the 4rd episode. In episode 6she came to him to be quiet about Jason to save his job. In the 7th episode Lana defended Clark to jason when Jason was supposed to give him a drug test. At the end of #8 Lana came to applogize to clalrk for jumping to the conclusion that he got Jason fired...she said she should have known he would never do anything so cruel and she asked his help with the tatoo on her back. Lana came to clark to try and help in "scare" to find out why Jason and chloe were affected. They worked together to solve the problem. In sacred Lana went to china with Clark to find one of the stones. She said that despite everything the 2 people she trusted to help her were Lionel and Clark. In onyk Lana came to clark after her confrontation with lex...she was upset and clark was the only one she could talk to. In spirit Clark came to the hospital to see about dawn and saw lana and asked how she was and she was gratefull for clark's concern..later she came to the prom to share a dance with clark.

I think you can see by these examples the flaw in your arguement. While they lana sometimes didn't like clark alot...she always loved him. She just didn't trust him to tell her the truth. But, She always knew that when she was in trouble...he was the one she could go to and get the help she needed. Then after the prom they were together for the rest of the season and then they reconciled in the season premiere of season 5.

Any questions.

[KAL ORTON]

Hypnotic was definitely not the worst episode in 5 years. I liked it. I think its ridiculous to call it the worst ep in 5 years.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I didn't feel slapped, and I'm a fan. For people who were waiting for Clark and Lana to solve their relationship, then this episode was probably very disappointing. But for me this show is not about Clark and Lana -- it's about Clark Kent becoming Superman. I'm glad to see them get on with that story.
The worst episode from a purely quality standpoint was probably 'Ageless', or 'Spell'. However, those were pure filler episodes. They didn't change the status quo, nor were they designed to. You can happily ignore them.

'Hypnotic' was different. This was apparently the end of the Clana. Love it or hate it, the Clana has been a key element to the show from the Pilot onward. TPTB knew from Day One that they were going to need to end the Clana at some point, so they have had five and a half years to think about this episode and this is what we got. Ugh.

[treker]

Originally posted by dhacker615


'Hypnotic' was different. This was apparently the end of the Clana. Love it or hate it, the Clana has been a key element to the show from the Pilot onward. TPTB knew from Day One that they were going to need to end the Clana at some point, so they have had five and a half years to think about this episode and this is what we got. Ugh.

That is the point I've been trying to make. You are one of the few to actually admit the truth. There was any number of ways to endl Clana if that is what has to happen. To do it this way just shows that they have no idea what the fans of smallville want.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by hanemg
I have to say, in my own opinion it was either the worst episode ever or at least among the bottom 5. Maybe I’m just tired of the same old nonsense being repeated over and over again, but sometimes I think the writers just have no clue how to structure things and not only don’t think 5 steps ahead, but don’t think at all.

Look, perfect would be if the McGuffins that they were using from season-to-season fit together in some way. If there was a moment when everything Jor-El had done to date was put in context and made perfect sense, for example.

I am not asking for perfect. The various threads are too disjointed at this point. It would take an Alan Moore level genius to unravel it. However, would be nice if the arcs made sense within the same season.


I knew that Clark and Lana would eventually break up, but when they did I at least thought the entire matter would make sense.

First of all, why wouldn’t Clark tell Lana his secret? We and he both know that she would take it well because he already told her in one version of history on the show and she not only took it well, but agreed to marry him. I mean even ignoring the fact that in “Reckoning” it would have made much more sense for him to have still told Lana the second time and simply warned her about Lex (I mean seriously, “honey, I have super powers and I’m an alien” is OK, but for God’s sake don’t tell her you traveled back through time and why?!), but why couldn’t he tell her now? There’s never been a good reason for this.

That is an amazing point. 'Reckoning' was a vastly better episode than this one, but it was the start of the problem. What Clark did in the last half of that episode made no sense and, therefore, created a new status quo that made no sense. "Hypnotic" was just the pathetic result of that.


Secondly, for me at least I need to see why Lois ends up being “the one” when Lana didn’t. I don’t want to see her as the consolation prize because he couldn’t be with Lana. That’s stupid. Clark and Lana needed to not work simply because of Clark and Lana not because “well, duh, if only I had figured out how to juggle my public and secret identities before I could have been with Lana. Oh well, at least I have Lois I guess.” Again, that’s stupid.

Maybe I’m just frustrated at this point, but I think the writers have done a poor job so far with the overall story. Sure, there have been plenty of really good standout episodes, but as far as keeping any long range plan in mind to move things along …well, I haven’t seen it.

I would phrase it another way, Clark and Lana still have unfinished business. They did a great job in the first two seasons creating a rationale for the Clark-Lana relationship, but they have done a less good job of keeping them apart. Lana is fragile and shares the sense with Clark of being alone and different. Clark loves her because he feels like he can protect her and that she empathizes his alien nature on some level.

As long as Lana is still looking outside herself for someone to save her and Clark still thinks that he can change her internal world, they are always going to be drawn together. Any break-up that doesn't resolve that aspect of their relationship is fake. That is why TPTB need to go to the OOC drawer of magic tricks (memory loss, mind control, etc.) to break them up.


Clark’s going to be a world class journalist, but so far I haven’t seen him writing since sometime in early to mid high school and I never really saw an interest despite his lame essay to his principal. The same with Lois.

I understand that they want to show all of the main characters as being far from their eventual destinies, but they still need to at some point at least show a direction beginning to form. Drawing out a storyline for an original series is one thing, but even when you’re dealing with fictional characters when the overall story is known to the general population it gets silly after awhile. It would be like George Lucas doing 20 prequels to Star Wars and never once showing any hint of Anakin’s volatile personality just to give the illusion of keeping us guessing only to suddenly end it with a rushed footnote that “…and Anakin decided to turn to the Dark Side and kill all of the other Jedi. The End.”

Who knows how long "Smallville" will run, but it is safe to assume that we are past the half-way mark. Clark doesn't feel anywhere close to be in half-way to where the show is supposed to be taking him. Lex has moved along more steadily, but they are really struggling with keeping him consistent.

Look, I can live with breaks in the cannon. I have gotten used to Lois pushing coffee at the Talon,etc. However, what got me hooked on the show was seeing the big moments that lead Clark to Superman. The end of the Clana was supposed to be one of them I thought. Seeing handled in such a ham-handed manner makes me wonder if I am going to see my faith in this show rewarded.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by treker
That is the point I've been trying to make. You are one of the few to actually admit the truth. There was any number of ways to endl Clana if that is what has to happen. To do it this way just shows that they have no idea what the fans of smallville want.
I don't see a truth or non truth. But I'll go with point of view.

I found their break-up, after all they'd been through, completely believable. I don't have any emotional investment in Clana, so it didn't upset me. It just looked realistic. Like a real breakup. They're not pretty.

[Dean_19]

I thought the ep was okay. As for the stupid things that happen in the storylines that sort of thing always happens in TV. Characters ALWAYS do stuff that just wouldn't happen in life, but we accept it cus its tv and it always happens....worst ep in my opinion was either Ageless or Fanatic...

Oh really off topic but I was watching some DVD's of seasons 2/3 and the whole thing with Jor-El giving JK super powers to bring Clark home and then screwing up his heart and eventually killing him......its just occurred to me that that was REALLY STUPID!!!! Er.......JK.....get some kryptonite....walk up to Clark.....take off the Red-K ring.......hey presto you didn't die!!! Has that occurred to anyone else before?!!

[red-K glory]

This was not the worst episode but not the best one either. I think Bound, Lucy, and Ageless were the worst episodes ever.

[love_sv]

Originally posted by red-K glory
This was not the worst episode but not the best one either.

Exactly! This was actually ok. The Clark and Simone ickiness was probably the worst scene in the history of Smallville! But I enjoyed the rest of the episode.

Clana break-up: well I'm glad it's finally over but I agree that it was handled a bit dodgily. But to be honest, Clana relationship shouldn't have happened in the first place as it's only brought angst and trouble to both of them.

I don't see this as a filler episode at all because it had elements of all the different stories in Smallville at the moment. It's actually made me look forward to future episodes!

[Fly by guy]

It was not the worst episode as far as the storylines but it had a terrible lasting effect because of the Clana breakup. It also continued to a larger degree the downward trend of poor ratings. It followed a strong Cyborg episode with bad promos and a terrible Lex manipulation of Clana plot.
Hypnotic may one day be referred to as the beginning of the end of SV. Ratings must improve.

I'm glad we have Al/Miles to tell us what a great season it's been and how sexy Hypnotic was, in their opinion. I still can't bring myself to watch it again and it has been 1/2 a year.

[clana_never_give_up]

Out of five years I agree with you, it was the worst episode ever. I don't think that the people who create smallville really understand that most of the fans come from clana. I think next season they are going to wonder why their aren't as many viewers. They don't realize that Smallville was built around clana and without the show is going to slowing come to an end. Some people will watch it, like me to see if their could ever be another clana but since that episode I'm not to sure. Even though I heard that Lana was going to learn his secret this year. Maybe they'll get back together, the shows ratings would definitely go way up!:D

That's my point of view.

[Lavenderrose73]

I wouldn't say this episode is the worst-- that would go to the handful of satanic episodes from the latter part of Season 4-- but if it wasn't for Professor Fine's return, this episode would have been absolutely worthless! As I have on my profile, I have recently taken a liking to James Marsters. He's on my desktop, my cell phone screensaver, and my blue vintage locket.

That "I don't love you anymore" just about sliced my heart in two! And why couldn't Clark lose Lana to someone as good-natured as Jimmy Olsen? I think the Clana (which I am also a fan of) thing should have ended with Lana finding the right man and Clark lamenting only for awhile and then moving on because he would have known that at least she was in good hands.

[Faltalis]

Didn't see anything wrong with this episode, I personally liked it because lana and clark broke up =)

[Clark/Lois-fan]

The episode was definately not the worst! That award goes to Thirst & Visitor.

[Nimkong]

Its my favorite episode is season 5 but not my favorite ever