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CSBen
03-04-2006, 12:10 AM
So far I seem to have found two.
Plot Hole 1:
Ep 4.03 - Facade
Whitney is supposed to of dead but he turns up long after he is supposed to be dead according to Episode #2-11 "Visage" anyway.
Plot Hole 2:
At the start of season#4-1 "Crusade", it shows Lex needs to get his blood purified every 24 or 12 hours (can't remember exactly).
This is the last you hear about it.
TMLS' BROTHER
03-04-2006, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by CSBen
Plot Hole 1:
Ep 4.03 - Facade
Whitney is supposed to of dead but he turns up long after he is supposed to be dead according to Episode #2-11 "Visage" anyway.
I'm pretty sure that was a flashback... lol.
CSBen
03-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Hope so!
Jellie
03-04-2006, 11:43 AM
plot hole 1 was definitely a flashback
plot hole 2 was sorted out with the verizon emails (not on tv )
CSBen
03-04-2006, 02:21 PM
Care to explain what the verizon emails are?
Jellie
03-04-2006, 02:23 PM
You would have to ask somebody else because im not really sure
Originally posted by CSBen
Care to explain what the verizon emails are?
I believe it was a verizon wireless sweepstakes. People would get emails on thier cell phones about Smallville one of them happened to be that Lex's blood was ok now. I personally don't think it was the best move I would of like to see it be played out on tv or at least be explained.
OutlawAngel
03-06-2006, 08:09 PM
I dont understand how his blood just all of a sudden was ok. Just dont make sense.
But then again looking at what season disscussion forum I am in I should not be surprised.
brainiacowen
03-07-2006, 08:51 AM
Just remember that Lex has a superhuman immune system...this could have healed him, it's what I believe anyway.
The first plot hole was a Flash back to Clark's freshman year. Remember they wanted to have a freshman throw the football and dunk Lana? And she was wearing the kryponite necklace that no longer exists(in it's kryptonite form anyway, because the ship destroyed it in season 2 or 3).
Clark's hair was even darker and combed the same as it was in the first season...
The only plot hole that just bugs the hell out of me, and I don't care if they talk about it in the "Vengeance Chronicles", because it was such a "whoa" ending to "JINX".
Level 33.1!!!!!!
Come on! That was really cheap to just forget about it. I heard it was because Al and Miles didn't like it...but really, they don't do much on the show anymore except aprove story lines. I don't dislike the guys, they are great, but this was a cheap shot and it upsets me.
Kryptonian Snake
03-07-2006, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by brainiacowen
Just remember that Lex has a superhuman immune system...this could have healed him, it's what I believe anyway.
The first plot hole was a Flash back to Clark's freshman year. Remember they wanted to have a freshman throw the football and dunk Lana? And she was wearing the kryponite necklace that no longer exists(in it's kryptonite form anyway, because the ship destroyed it in season 2 or 3).
Where was the plot hole? The scene took place when the necklace still existed.
brainiacowen
03-09-2006, 08:24 AM
Ha, I meant the first plot hole that the first post mentioned...it wasn't a plot hole, I was explaining how it wasn't...my bad.
UpandAtom
03-10-2006, 05:19 PM
Here's another plot hole: the Kryptonite covering the three statues. If the stones were meant for Clark, why were they there?
Jellie
03-10-2006, 05:21 PM
Im gonna steal somebodys answer from another thread
''bad writing''
LexLuthorMetropolis
03-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Bad writing sums it up and it continues thrrough this year.
UpandAtom
03-10-2006, 05:25 PM
Another plot hole: Lionel said that he didn't murder his parents when in the last season we know for a fact that he did.
Jellie
03-10-2006, 05:45 PM
I don't know if thats a plot hole. Maybe Lionel was ''at his work'' when he said he didn't murder his parents.
UpandAtom
03-10-2006, 05:51 PM
What do you mean "at his work"?
Jellie
03-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Being deceitful and lying etc. Typical MB behaviour.
UpandAtom
03-12-2006, 10:23 AM
But Lionel claimed to be reformed and he didn't have any reason to lie since he was in jail anyway.
brainiacowen
03-12-2006, 07:15 PM
Morgan Edge killed Lionel's parents.
Firebunny
03-12-2006, 10:54 PM
In S3's 'Truth' Chloe asked Lionel if he ordered Morgan Edge to kill his parents. He had to speak the truth since she was doused with Levitas. He said, "Of course I did. For their life insurance."
Then in S4, when he's getting released from prison (and he's good Lionel) he says he shouldn't be released because he's guilty of all sorts of crimes, not the one he was convicted for, but lots of other ones.
Either "Good" Lionel was lying, or he was convicted of something else (but then why would Chloe be the star witness at his trial?), or it's a big fat plot hole.
brainiacowen
03-13-2006, 04:36 PM
He was convicted of Murder...he was only guilty of Conspiracy to Murder and Accomplace as he did not do the deed.
There was no lying, but he still did wrong in this regard, as well as all of the other crimes he admits he is guilty of.
LexLuv180
03-19-2006, 03:31 PM
I dont think Lionel was denying the charge in the prison, just telling her that since he was being released for that crime there's others he commited. With Lex and the blood, I always assumed it had something to do with the stone. It happened at the same time it started glowing for him, he wasn't better before that or seeming to get better.
Mistryman
03-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Was a bit strange how we didnt get to c a bigger deal of lionel getting out of prison. I mean seriouly that would of turned a few heads. It was a mega big deal when he went in surely it should be the same when hes out, especially when he went into mega good mode. The press would of had a feild day!!
Jellie
03-19-2006, 05:25 PM
Simple answer
Not enough tv time :(
UpandAtom
03-20-2006, 10:55 AM
Maybe Lionel meant that he was justified in killing his parents. Maybe he did it in self-defense.
Firebunny
03-20-2006, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by UpandAtom
Maybe Lionel meant that he was justified in killing his parents. Maybe he did it in self-defense.
Except that he said in 'Truth,' when he couldn't physically lie, that he had them killed for the insurance money.
Originally posted by brainiacowen
He was convicted of Murder...he was only guilty of Conspiracy to Murder and Accomplace as he did not do the deed.
If you hire someone to kill another person you are still guilty of murder as well as conspiracy. (I watch Law and Order, so I'm an expert on criminal law.)
I am so confused my the S4 quote. There wasn't any reason he 'had' to say it (he was being released from prison anyway) and it just doesn't add up with what he said in S3.
that girl
05-30-2006, 10:51 AM
to me, the most annoying plot whole in all of Smallville comes up in Unsafe. In the scene between Chloe and Lana, Chloe reveals to her that she lost her virginity to a guy most fans assume to be Jimmy Olsen. That's okay. It's just that she says it was while she was interning at the Daily Planet during the summer between seasons one and two. But if you rewind back to Heat (I think) Chloe tries to make Clark jealous by telling him about some guy she hooked up with at the Daily Planet and later tells Lana she made the whole thing up. She wouldn't have had to make it up if she had really met Jimmy.
Personally, I like to think that she really knows Jimmy Olsen, maybe he can make a cameo in Smallville sometime.
LionelLuthor
06-10-2006, 03:37 PM
Wow there are only 2 pages for this thread?!
One off the top of my head is when Lionel was stabbed in the showers, and then it's forgotten about the next episode.
The same with Alicia's death- she wasn't mentioned once after 'Pariah'. She was mentioned in 'Mortal', but not referring to her death.
Not much of a plot hole, just bad writing- but black Kryptonite was such a lazy plot device! Bridgette Crosby appears, and just happens to know that it will stop Clark.
How would she know about effects of Kryptonite on Kryptonians? It's not as if she had one in a cage and walked up to it holding a chunk of rock.
Martha uses it, and it seperates Clark from Kal-El- but then in 'Onyx' what effect does it have on Clark? He just reels back, holding his arm. It's not really been explained.
christian_kryptonian
06-19-2006, 01:03 AM
1. Lex's blood problem suddenly fixes itself without explaination.
2. Level 33.1 never explained AT ALL.
3. It is never truly revealed WHO let Lionel out of jail and who is sitting in the limo when he gets out.
4. Kryptonite was protecting something concerning the stones, which are meant for Clark.
5. Evil Lex finds out about Clark's power, but Lex doesn't remember any of this for some odd reason. Clark remembered what Kal-El did before the Black Kryptonite was used on him.
6. Nobody asks about the stones ever again after season 4. Not even Lana who gives hers to Clark in person. Nobody even MENTIONS the stones at all.
Welling_is_pretty
06-24-2006, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by christian_kryptonian
1. Lex's blood problem suddenly fixes itself without explaination.
2. Level 33.1 never explained AT ALL.
3. It is never truly revealed WHO let Lionel out of jail and who is sitting in the limo when he gets out.
4. Kryptonite was protecting something concerning the stones, which are meant for Clark.
5. Evil Lex finds out about Clark's power, but Lex doesn't remember any of this for some odd reason. Clark remembered what Kal-El did before the Black Kryptonite was used on him.
6. Nobody asks about the stones ever again after season 4. Not even Lana who gives hers to Clark in person. Nobody even MENTIONS the stones at all.
1. I've seen on other threads that this problem was fixed 'off panel' as they say in comics. I believe it was addressed on the internet or some such?
2. See above answer.
3. In one of the deleted scenes (can't remember exactly which eppy) Genevieve Teague visits Lionel in the guest house and it is revealed that [i]she/i] is the one who got him released from prison. I assume she is also the one who is in the limo, thought that is never made clear.
4. The stones are meant for Clark but others are searching for it. I suppose the writers had the stones placed there for toehrs who would search for it. But that brings up a couple of plot holes as well:
how did pieces of Kryptonite get put there YEARS before the planet exploded and Kryptonite even appeared on Earth?
and
how would whoever put it there know that it would affect ANYONE coming to find the stones?
5. Clark said that the stuff as Kal-El was 'fuzzy' and 'vague'. Seeing as how his Kryptonian brain is, for lack of a better word, stronger then perhaps a human brain would not be able to remember anything at all.
6. Now this I totally agree with. Actually there are many, many things that are done/dealt with/mentioned on Smallville that never get mentioned again.
jay dante
07-24-2006, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by UpandAtom
Here's another plot hole: the Kryptonite covering the three statues. If the stones were meant for Clark, why were they there?
I think its more a clue then a plot hole. The stones are obviously meant for Clark. Whoever put the kryptonite there must of wanted Clark to know that the stone wasnt there and he had to search somewhere else. Poorly done imo since Lex or Jason? figures out where the stone is instead of Clark.
SVsleuth
10-10-2006, 10:23 PM
One of the biggest unanswered questions, in my opinion is this: What connection did Isobel have to Krypton or Kryptonians? How did these Kryptonian stones get on earth in the 16th centruy - actually, in Run, Lex said that Rasputin had the map in the 14th century. Did Isobel really do a transference with Lana? - same symbol used as on the Trnsference stone.
In season 5, Aethyr has a Zod tattoo on her lower back. Does this have any significance in understanding Lana's?
Welling_is_pretty
10-11-2006, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by SVsleuth
One of the biggest unanswered questions, in my opinion is this: What connection did Isobel have to Krypton or Kryptonians?
Isobel had nothing to do with Krypton. She simply believed the stones=power (though what kind she didn't know and frankly, didn't care) and wanted them.
Well, I suppose that this thread is kind of old, and you guys didn't know about it then, but 33.1 does come up later. You know, the whole "Lex is building an army" thing. I guess it made a lot of drama not explaining it earlier.
AgentChaos
07-01-2008, 11:17 PM
1. Lex's blood problem suddenly fixes itself without explaination.
My thinking is that the stone he found in Crusade somehow healed him. When he picks it up after the relic was shattered, it glows, curing him.
Hydra
07-02-2008, 01:35 AM
2. Level 33.1 never explained AT ALL.
Not true
It was brought up in Mortal and the Vengence chronicles in season five.
And lets not forget season six. 33.1 was the focal point of Lex's obsessions.
wickedwango
09-05-2008, 07:20 AM
If you hire someone to kill another person you are still guilty of murder as well as conspiracy. (I watch Law and Order, so I'm an expert on criminal law.)
Haha lol
jon-el87
10-24-2008, 07:25 AM
It's made very much clear that Isobel was a countess and was later burned as a witch. This is a major mistake of the writers, since noble women weren't burned as witches (or even accused for being one).
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