View Full Version : Allison Mack saves the show
the_drifter
02-10-2006, 10:39 AM
if it weren't for allison's outstanding performance in "tomb" i would have muted it and just watched tom's beautiful face. but, proving even further that she is the best actress on the show, allison "killed it" last night. and by "killed it", i mean "rocked my world"...
Polomontana
02-10-2006, 10:43 AM
I agree, Allison was Awesome in last nights episode.
KRAM-el
02-10-2006, 10:48 AM
No one can hold a candle to her. She IS a "super" talent. I just wish she was used to a greater extent... Good Chloe, Bad Chloe, I don't care... Just more of CHLOE and that fantastic AM ability (AND looks)!!!!!!!!!!! :D
the_drifter
02-10-2006, 10:52 AM
i want her to star in a movie!!! if tom can do it i know she can.
mar1013
02-10-2006, 10:55 AM
i agree, she is really a good actress, her performance is just perfect
divedophin09
02-10-2006, 11:51 AM
OMG... i thought she was beond amazing... she did such an amazing job. She is a great actress.
margroks
02-10-2006, 12:04 PM
Allison was fantastic. She has a range of emotion and ability that other actresses can only dream of. I felt with her and cringed when she was screaming as they injected her.
The ep was great although it could have been improved by more Tom who was noticably absent from most of it and from Clark giving her a hug after he talked to her about visiting her mom while she still could. I really thought she was going to stop typing and he'd step up and give a much needed hug after all she'd just been through. That they didn't do that nor have Clark accompany Chloe to the asylum and watch as she went over to her mom were two things that made no sense at all. Clark's advice, born of his own recent loss and Chloe taking it should have remained linked by his presence with her. It was a poor plot choiice along with not enough Tom but of course, that was in no way Allison's fault.
She's perfection, no doubt about it.
RJK62284
02-10-2006, 01:11 PM
agree she was the highlight of the show for me
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 01:16 PM
I was totally stunned.....stunned. i mean, i just can't put into words how great her performance was! outstanding. i wish i could tell that to her face, so she would know how great she really is! but....just.....wonderful, outstanding, great, extaordinary, awsome, intense, stong, sad, emotional. heck she even did the sedated act really good!
Allison Mack saves the show time and time again! And honestly the following thing I have to say shouldnīt be taken as an offense to the other actresses, but Kristin Kreuk and Erica Durance canīt even hold a candle to Allison Mack as far as acting goes!
greatercalling
02-10-2006, 02:40 PM
allison played the two distinct characters well, you def knew if she was chloe or gretchen... thats a good actor
KEakaCK
02-10-2006, 03:27 PM
Allison Mack is by far the strongest actor between Tom, Kristin, Michael, JG, and Erica...IMHO.
BoSoxJim
02-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by KEakaCK
Allison Mack is by far the strongest actor between Tom, Kristin, Michael, JG, and Erica...IMHO.
Now c'mon, MR as Adina in Sorority Boys was robbed of an Oscar.
And ED in House of the Dead. A masterful piece of body acting.
AM was terrific in this ep. but compared to the above mentioned performances, not even in the same league. :p
SuperStupidPower
02-10-2006, 03:46 PM
Gotta give the best actor nod to:
Lex
Martha
Chloe
Lionel / Lois / Flash
Clark / Lana
Aquaman
in that order (for the series, not just this episode)
In this episode AMack definitely rocked it.
BoSoxJim
02-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by SuperStupidPower
Gotta give the best actor nod to:
Lex
Martha
Chloe
Lionel / Lois / Flash
Clark / Lana
Aquaman
in that order (for the series, not just this episode)
In this episode AMack definitely rocked it.
well if you're including guest actors then you'll have quite a few names above Lex.
martha???? c'mon :)
SuperStupidPower
02-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Martha doesnt get enough scenes to show her stuff...
She has displayed some range, and does the uber mom justice.
When she does something besides the "Jonathan! face" she does it well.
I threw Aquaman in cause he stunk so bad, and that reminded me of flash.
I realized later I didn't even include BoKent or Clark's first wife.
Ok, new and refined list...
Lex
Chloe
Lionel/Martha/Alicia/Lois/Flash/Ryan
BoKent
Clark/Lana
Aquaman
(this time it was closer to scale)
BoSoxJim
02-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by SuperStupidPower
Martha doesnt get enough scenes to show her stuff...
ok, i agree with that. maybe she'll get to strut her stuff now that she's a senator.
i think you'll move lionel up the ladder too (or not as it's your list) as they'll have alot of scenes together. i think john glover does the most with what little he's given.
i don't like her
/don't flame me
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Rozq
i don't like her
/don't flame me
AM/Chloe or AOT/Martha?
DARKRAGE
02-10-2006, 06:14 PM
Alison may be strong but I personally do not reckon she carries the show that is rubbish, god man 1 ep and she is a oscar winner meh
Jellie
02-10-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by DARKRAGE
Alison may be strong but I personally do not reckon she carries the show that is rubbish, god man 1 ep and she is a oscar winner meh
:lol: :lol:
True
Billy Jor-El
02-10-2006, 06:29 PM
hee hee hee, I think we may have some new disciples here :)
Allison IS Supergirl ;)
myankskent
02-10-2006, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by DARKRAGE
Alison may be strong but I personally do not reckon she carries the show that is rubbish, god man 1 ep and she is a oscar winner meh
She's a solid actress, but no better than anyone else on the show. There is no way that I can get nuts about her performance last night which had a bad script. I'm going to put her performance last night over Welling and Schneider's performance in Rosetta for example? Not even in the same category.
Naman is 1#
02-10-2006, 07:07 PM
The acting most of the time is good in SV. This episode center attenion was Chloe so naturally her fans will applaud her performance which is no match for MR performance in the episode "Shattered" not even close. ;)
Liriel
02-10-2006, 07:26 PM
I think she's a very good actress, and is easily better than ED or KK. I think she's nearly as good or as good as MR and certainly much better than TW.
I don't think she's the greatest actress ever, but she consistently turns in a good performance, IMO, and did a spectacular job of differentiating Chloe and Gretchen.
Lobby4Chloe
02-10-2006, 08:05 PM
Ugh, I totally teared up at the last scene. I also totally bought the Gretchen pain she was channelling too. AM rocks!!!! Best actress on the show.
AM needs more episodes just for her!!!!
BTW, how many times can they knock Lois out or drag her away to become saving bait? Off-topic. Sorry.
God-Man
02-10-2006, 08:20 PM
Chloe has been the best character on Smallville for the last two seasons. Before that I had major problems with her jealously over Clark and Lana's relationship. Not to mention her selling out of Clark to Lionel Luthor. Ever since she got over that, Chloe has carried the show and on many occasions saved an episode from being just plain terrible. She's funny, smart, witty, and a million other adjectives that I can't think of right now.
MBCorp
02-10-2006, 08:30 PM
The three best actors on the show are Michael Rosenbaum , John Glover, and poor departed John Schneider. IMO, AM isn't as good as any of these actors. I also think Welling's acting in Transference and Splinter were far superior to AM's acting in this episode. AM's acting was solid in this episode, but I really don't think she carries the show.
Jason_Bourne
02-10-2006, 08:35 PM
I thought Allison's finest moment in this ep was when chloe confronted Michael the orderly at his house and started talking about what he'd done to gretchen and that she didn't deserve to die. She acted her ass off in that scene, the last scene was great too although i was expecting it so it didn't catch me off guard like the previous scene did.
I wouldn't say she carries the show single handedly but i would say i'd probably stop watching if she wasn't on it.
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Jason_Bourne
I thought Allison's finest moment in this ep was when chloe confronted Michael the orderly at his house and started talking about what he'd done to gretchen and that she didn't deserve to die. She acted her ass off in that scene, the last scene was great too although i was expecting it so it didn't catch me off guard like the previous scene did.
I wouldn't say she carries the show single handedly but i would say i'd probably stop watching if she wasn't on it.
that was my fav. acting part too. and also when he started to get out the braclet, they you could really tell how scared she was.
DWBSR620
02-10-2006, 08:48 PM
Allison delivered one of her finest performances in a Smallville episode seen. She was on the mark, and gave a very convincing, passionate performance that made an ok story into a very good story to watch.
Peace To All.
photogirl
02-12-2006, 08:16 AM
I think AM even outdid Michael's performance in shattered and asylum, or at least did as good as him. It was really impressive!!
Scorpio31
02-12-2006, 11:15 AM
Yes she did save it once again. I have to say she is always more outstanding than anyone else on the show (not MR, their on the same level).
Addictedtosmllvill
02-12-2006, 12:13 PM
She is the best actress, IMO. She always has and always will save the show for me. She's incredible, but I do think she ties with MR in the best actor catagory.
watcher4
02-12-2006, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
The three best actors on the show are Michael Rosenbaum , John Glover, and poor departed John Schneider. IMO, AM isn't as good as any of these actors. I also think Welling's acting in Transference and Splinter were far superior to AM's acting in this episode. AM's acting was solid in this episode, but I really don't think she carries the show.
I agree that John Schneider was one of the best actors on the show. :\
hickorylane
02-12-2006, 03:35 PM
AM ranks with JG(Tony winner) and MR as the best actors on this show. Second rank is Aot, only slightly, with JS much further behind her.
TW is better and has obviously been working hard, followed by KK, and ED, who just is eye candy.
AM performance ranks up with MR from shattered, and JG every week. This show has subpar acting, often, with TW, KK and ED, but if was so nice to see a great performance on this show, it is too few and far between
Scorpio31
02-13-2006, 12:56 AM
ITA with everything you said. AM, JG, and MR all rank number one to me, also TW, KK, and ED all rank last too.
MissLane
02-13-2006, 05:41 AM
I think TOMB was an amazing episode... Allison Mack the best of all, but the episode was awesome!!!
I loved it
margroks
02-13-2006, 07:07 AM
Sorry. Allison rocked and she outshines even MR. She does exposition dialogue better than anyone and here I reference Lex taking about how he got Chloe and Gabe out of the safe house before it exploded. He paled and it really sounded just like he was reading it. Allison would have made it totally believable.
Allison can act rings around KK and ED and she deserves a lot of credit for that. Tom is also exceptional and people have to remember that he is directed to play Clark stoic and unemotiional most of the time. Eps like Vengeance and Transference show his marvelous range buit he's kept from displaying it most of the time. And of course, Tom and ALlison together always display chemistry that blows away the competition.
John Glover has repeatedly sung Allison's praises, too and he's an award winning actor himself.
Billy Jor-El
02-13-2006, 07:15 AM
And since the Emmy people don't seem to care about a show such as SV, what about putting together a Kryptonsite Award and getting it to Allison (or whomever is felt to deserve it at the time)?
son2380
02-13-2006, 10:27 AM
If she was the best actor on the show What movies has she acted in or was the main character? If she was a better actor than TOM then why aren't movie producers knocking on her door to act in roles. Tom and Mike carries this show and are the best actors on it.
Allison couldn't even make her self cry in the last scene, how is that a good actor. She could've used some tear drops to maker herself cry.
the_drifter
02-13-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Jason_Bourne
I wouldn't say she carries the show single handedly but i would say i'd probably stop watching if she wasn't on it.
i respect your opinion, but how does that make any sense?? she's powerful enough to make you stop watching if she were to leave the show, but not powerful enough to say she carries the show?
i agree with the majority of the replies to my post, i.e. rosenbaum is the best, and glover, and schneider, etc. i think they're ALL great actors, even Kristin. I just think she gets screwed when it comes to scripts. I guess the point i was trying to make was that Allison gives that extra "it" factor that the other characters are lacking right now.
Originally posted by margroks
Sorry. Allison rocked and she outshines even MR. She does exposition dialogue better than anyone and here I reference Lex taking about how he got Chloe and Gabe out of the safe house before it exploded. He paled and it really sounded just like he was reading it. Allison would have made it totally believable.
Allison can act rings around KK and ED and she deserves a lot of credit for that. Tom is also exceptional and people have to remember that he is directed to play Clark stoic and unemotiional most of the time. Eps like Vengeance and Transference show his marvelous range buit he's kept from displaying it most of the time. And of course, Tom and ALlison together always display chemistry that blows away the competition.
John Glover has repeatedly sung Allison's praises, too and he's an award winning actor himself.
one word margroks...
amen.
ms.c.
02-13-2006, 11:06 AM
Allison Mack is incredibly talented. She just blows me away with her ability to make Chloe seem real. And she did the same thing with Gretchen and made her easily distinguishable from Chloe.
But, this is no surprise. AM takes her little amount of screen time and she plays the hell out of it to really develop Chloe into a person we can recognize. She is a really powerful actor.
John Glover, AOT, Michael Rosenbaum are all very brilliant as well. I would never deny that they are extraordinarily talented and they have contributed a lot to the show. TW is not as strong an actor, but he's come a long way and he's been very good this season in some of the episodes. Of course, a lot of the show's success belongs to TW b/c he's in so much of it, but that doesn't mean that the other actors don't contribute a lot to make it ultimately work and come together. In fact, at some points the other actors have to carry the stories to make them work.
Does Allison Mack save the show? Yes, she does for me. Chloe is the only one keeping me interested in the story. Clana bores me. Lexana bores me. I can't stand Nois. All of that stuff pulls down the stories to me. The Luthors are interesting and Lex and Clark are interesting, Clark and Jor-el are interesting, but they're not focusing on their relationships just their romantic obsessions.
Chloe and Clark are like Mulder and Scully which is really enjoyable and has been once again given a lot of prominence this season. I miss the X-files and AM reminds me of Scully a lot even though she plays the believer on Smallville. I hope they keep giving Allison Mack plenty to do and keep Chloe involved in the stories.
margroks
02-13-2006, 11:27 AM
Lately I've been watching the X-Files reruns on Sci Fi and man do Clark and Chloe together just channel Mulder and Scully when they're incestigating things together. Even in first season it was obvious. And an early ep like Visitor, where Clark was first in denial, then thinking yeah, he's like me and Chloe rigs a little demo of Cyrus' firestarting in the lab and shoots him down. THat back and forth is what the X-Files brought with it and that's totally Clark and Chloe.
shinedown
02-13-2006, 11:58 AM
i personally cant rank the actors in this show as best and worst b'c each brings something different to the table and it depends on the role they play but AM definately saved the show with her acting this episode. she was phenomenal and it was so believable.
attitudejc
02-13-2006, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by son2380
If she was the best actor on the show What movies has she acted in or was the main character? If she was a better actor than TOM then why aren't movie producers knocking on her door to act in roles. Tom and Mike carries this show and are the best actors on it.
Allison couldn't even make her self cry in the last scene, how is that a good actor. She could've used some tear drops to maker herself cry.
first off, did you see how much she cried in the other scenes. she can make herself cry whenever she wants to. she is actually one of the best criers i have ever seen. and she was crying in the last scene. you don't always have to have tears running down her cheeks to cry. plus she was probably dehydrated from all the crying from before.:p
Watching Smallville
02-13-2006, 01:33 PM
Of all the young actors on the show, I believe Allison actually has the most acting experience. I believe she's done a number of films since childhood. I remember seeing her in a movie -- she couldn't have been more than 8 or 9 years old. She's very accomplished. I'm sure that once her role on Smallville ends, we'll see more of her.
margroks
02-13-2006, 02:31 PM
It's not a question of making herself cry. It's doing what the director tells you, for the most part, just as it is for Tom or for Michael Rosenbaum. Some are better at bringing the emotion and some are not. Allison is as is Tom when he's allowed to by the director.
Allison was dynamite in Tomb.
Old Juan
02-13-2006, 04:27 PM
TOM then why aren't movie producers knocking on her door to act in roles. Tom and Mike carries this show and are the best actors on it
Actually they do. If you bothered to do any research on Allison you'd know that she actually turns projects down because she likes to travel during her summer hiatus off the show. She works on Smallville for up to 14 hours a day nine months of the year. She simply chooses not to work during her time off of the show. Make no mistake once the show is done for good, we'll be seeing a lot more of Allison in movies because she's that good.
Allison couldn't even make her self cry in the last scene, how is that a good actor. She could've used some tear drops to maker herself cry
It looked like she was crying to me.
Of all the young actors on the show, I believe Allison actually has the most acting experience. I believe she's done a number of films since childhood. I remember seeing her in a movie -- she couldn't have been more than 8 or 9 years old. She's very accomplished. I'm sure that once her role on Smallville ends, we'll see more of her.
That is correct, out all the young actors on the show she does have the most experience.
myankskent
02-13-2006, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by attitudejc
first off, did you see how much she cried in the other scenes. she can make herself cry whenever she wants to. she is actually one of the best criers i have ever seen. and she was crying in the last scene. you don't always have to have tears running down her cheeks to cry. plus she was probably dehydrated from all the crying from before.:p
I disagree. I don't think she is a good at crying. I have to say that I have seen kristin kreuk very often in the series be involved in a scene where tears continuously stream down her face and she isn't really trying to cry, meaning she isn't vocally crying. She is the best at crying in my opinion.
Back to Allison, she's a solid actress but she's nothing special. Her performance in tomb is the same type of stuff that you see in a horror movie when people are scared. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't anywhere near as good as Michael Rosenbaum when he went nuts back in Shattered. To Mack's credit, she is the best at firing off continuous dialogue without messing up, which is why she is excellent at rehashing the plot for the episodes. Outside of that, she really doesn't bring anything fantastic to the show that no one else can do.
Slytherin Princess
02-13-2006, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I disagree. I don't think she is a good at crying. I have to say that I have seen kristin kreuk very often in the series be involved in a scene where tears continuously stream down her face and she isn't really trying to cry, meaning she isn't vocally crying. She is the best at crying in my opinion.
Back to Allison, she's a solid actress but she's nothing special. Her performance in tomb is the same type of stuff that you see in a horror movie when people are scared. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't anywhere near as good as Michael Rosenbaum when he went nuts back in Shattered. To Mack's credit, she is the best at firing off continuous dialogue without messing up, which is why she is excellent at rehashing the plot for the episodes. Outside of that, she really doesn't bring anything fantastic to the show that no one else can do.
i agree with everything you just said.
BoSoxJim
02-13-2006, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Slytherin Princess
i agree with everything you just said.
hmmmm...for some reason, that does not surprise me. :p
Slytherin Princess
02-13-2006, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
hmmmm...for some reason, that does not surprise me. :p
i can't help it if i love MR so much. :p
Watching Smallville
02-13-2006, 10:58 PM
I think it's hard to get an accurate idea of Allison's talent from the role she has in smallville. It's kind of a one-dimensional character she's playing -- in contrast to Michael, who has a lot to work with in the Lex character. That is one area where the writers excel -- writing for the Luthors. Both Michael and John Glover are so talented, but they also get a solid chance to strut their stuff playing Lex and Lionel. I'd like to see what Allison can do with a role that's more complex.
margroks
02-14-2006, 06:44 AM
I think Allison blows MR away, too. And she's great at crying and everything else. KK, I'm afraid, can't convince me of anything, whether it's crying or being mad. Nothing personal but she has a very limited range and her facial expressions are pretty much the same no matter what emotion she's supposed to be showing and unfortunately, I don't think it's how she's directed. People in commentaries are always raving about KK to the exclusion of everyone else and she's just not that good. John Glover was present for one of those moments and he apparently broke in, cutting short the unwarranted love fest and told everyone just how wonderful Allison is. JG ought to know since he's an award winning actor himself. Allison is just superb and she blows away the other young actresses on this show.
jaime,oburg
02-14-2006, 08:02 AM
I think that AM is one of the strongest actors on the show. When comparing other actors alot of it is like comparing apples to oranges. Look at the character. Who do they have to play every week? Do they shine when the actor gets to play out of character eg TW in Splinter, Red, Transference. MR in Onyx, Shattered, Lexmas.
What kind of script or lines is an actor given. I truely felt sorry for KK for the stupid crap she had to do for Thrist.
One can argue that some actors on the show get all the great lines, have a better written character or just get to do break out episodes to prove their acting chops.
Tom, Allison and Michael certainly proved themselves when they had to play OOC or carry an emotional scene. AOT shines in both emotional scenes and when she was OOC as Dawn Stiles.
What I define as a good actor is this. What is the actor given to work with. And no matter what kind of script, lines or character how do they do the best with what they were given. That should be the measure of their talent. Of which of course is always open to one's opinion. Here's mine in no certain order of preference.
AM
AOT
MR
JG
:)
Tomsgurl88
02-14-2006, 12:02 PM
I was really impressed with Allison's acting, she was awesome.
Jason_Bourne
02-14-2006, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by the_drifter
i respect your opinion, but how does that make any sense?? she's powerful enough to make you stop watching if she were to leave the show, but not powerful enough to say she carries the show?
All in the wording, i said she didn't carry the show *single handedly*, because saying that does a disservice to the talents of AoT, MR, and JG who can also bring the show alive. However I'm really invested in the charecter of chloe so if she wasn't in the show i would stop watching. However if Lionel got killed off, it would be one less quality actor on the show and i would regret it for that, but i would still watch, if you get what i mean. As an actress she is very good, but she doesn't carry the show on her own, the above named actors/actresses are in the same league if you will, but as a charecter she's indispensible to me, is what i'm trying to say.
Chloe fan1988
02-14-2006, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by margroks
I think Allison blows MR away, too. And she's great at crying and everything else. KK, I'm afraid, can't convince me of anything, whether it's crying or being mad. Nothing personal but she has a very limited range and her facial expressions are pretty much the same no matter what emotion she's supposed to be showing and unfortunately, I don't think it's how she's directed. People in commentaries are always raving about KK to the exclusion of everyone else and she's just not that good. John Glover was present for one of those moments and he apparently broke in, cutting short the unwarranted love fest and told everyone just how wonderful Allison is. JG ought to know since he's an award winning actor himself. Allison is just superb and she blows away the other young actresses on this show.
I thought I was the only one who noticed the immense amounts of undeserved praise KK gets from the crew. I'm just glad that Glover spoke up for Allison.
jaime,oburg
02-14-2006, 02:47 PM
The man knows greatness when he works with it!:D
myankskent
02-14-2006, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Jason_Bourne
All in the wording, i said she didn't carry the show *single handedly*, because saying that does a disservice to the talents of AoT, MR, and JG who can also bring the show alive. However I'm really invested in the charecter of chloe so if she wasn't in the show i would stop watching. However if Lionel got killed off, it would be one less quality actor on the show and i would regret it for that, but i would still watch, if you get what i mean. As an actress she is very good, but she doesn't carry the show on her own, the above named actors/actresses are in the same league if you will, but as a charecter she's indispensible to me, is what i'm trying to say.
I don't understand this line of thinking with all do respect. If Chloe was gone then you'd stop watching? I like the character of Chloe but the point of the show has nothing to do with her, it has to do with Clark's journey to become superman and Lex's journey to become evil. It doesn't seem like you watch the show for what it is intended for.
Jason_Bourne
02-14-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
the point of the show has nothing to do with her, it has to do with Clark's journey to become superman and Lex's journey to become evil. It doesn't seem like you watch the show for what it is intended for.
Season one and two and even to some respect 3 i would have agreed with you. But their "journey" is just completely convoluted and inconsistant that i find it fruitless to try and watch for that reason. Clark relearns the same lessons over and over and over, and lex goes from good to evil whenever the plot decides. Chloe is the one charecter who for the most part has had a logical consistant charecter growth, maybe it's because she's Al/Miles' creation and they can do whatever they want with her, that she can be developed gradually along a path whereas Clark and Lex have restrictions on them because of the comics and whatever.
In a nutshell she is the one charecter left on the show that i really feel for. I used to say that about Lex and Clark too, but they are now so all over the place in terms of charecter development that it's impossible for me to connect with them or feel any kind of sympathy towards them because they just don't feel real. Chloe is the last emotionally resonant charecter for me.
I watch because of the action and the charecters, and they've gotten rid of Pete, Johnathon, lex is nothing like his former self, Clark mopes about lana all the time and if we lose chloe as well then it would just be the final straw.
myankskent
02-14-2006, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Jason_Bourne
Season one and two and even to some respect 3 i would have agreed with you. But their "journey" is just completely convoluted and inconsistant that i find it fruitless to try and watch for that reason. Clark relearns the same lessons over and over and over, and lex goes from good to evil whenever the plot decides. Chloe is the one charecter who for the most part has had a logical consistant charecter growth, maybe it's because she's Al/Miles' creation and they can do whatever they want with her, that she can be developed gradually along a path whereas Clark and Lex have restrictions on them because of the comics and whatever.
In a nutshell she is the one charecter left on the show that i really feel for. I used to say that about Lex and Clark too, but they are now so all over the place in terms of charecter development that it's impossible for me to connect with them or feel any kind of sympathy towards them because they just don't feel real. Chloe is the last emotionally resonant charecter for me.
I watch because of the action and the charecters, and they've gotten rid of Pete, Johnathon, lex is nothing like his former self, Clark mopes about lana all the time and if we lose chloe as well then it would just be the final straw.
Can't really argue with your points, although I don't think that they have destroyed Clark and Lex's characters that much. They have clearly been inconsistent with every character on the show from time to time. I guess my point is that I'd rather see the two of them move toward their destinies then to see any of the other characters have shows dedicated to them. Just my opinion.
margroks
02-15-2006, 06:04 AM
Chloe makes the show believable when it would otherwise not be at times. And they certainly disrespected Clark by having him lie to himself and Lana so he could justify sleeping with her, a girl whom he knew would never accept him for his true self and all that retcomnning in Reckoning doesn't change the fact that for over four years she's been the girl who hates those who are different.
If Clark didn't have Chloe to talk to in confidence it would be quite boring, anyway. Chloe often spurs him on to do what's necessary and believes in him when his own parents doubt (Vengeance is only the latest example).
Originally posted by Jason_Bourne
I watch because of the action and the charecters, and they've gotten rid of Pete, Johnathon, lex is nothing like his former self, Clark mopes about lana all the time and if we lose chloe as well then it would just be the final straw. [/B]
I agree! Besides Chloeīs character none of the others have arrived at the intended destination their characters ultimately were supposed to arrive at! The devolopment of Clark, Lex, Lana, Lionel and even Martha are zero to none! Clark spends 98% of his time moping over the problems in his and Lanaīs relationship and the other 2% he spents moping over how alone he feels!
Lex is no where near as strong, as confident and as evil as he should be by now, and Lana, donīt even get me started on her........
Lionel keeps switching between good and evil, I mean come on, make up your mind already will you?
Martha is finaly on a good way, but a tad bit to late, she was in Jonathanīs shadow for to long, and frankly the only good thing in Jonathanīs death (the truth is Lana should have been killed and not Jonathan) is that Martha finaly has some spotlight for herself!
So that leaves Chloe, I mean she really is the most developed character on the show and the most interesting one to watch, and even though everybody logicly knows that the show is not about Chloe nor should it be, how can you not help but get the impression that it is, when you see all the other characters who well, just s... when compared to her!
margroks
02-15-2006, 06:32 AM
Actually, while I agree Chloe has grown the most, she's still growing, too. After all, she's still waiting for that big move upstairs!
Originally posted by margroks
Actually, while I agree Chloe has grown the most, she's still growing, too. After all, she's still waiting for that big move upstairs!
Thatīs true, I never said that Chloe was done growing, what I in fact meant, was that at least with her you can see that she is moving along towards some goal! The others just seem to be stuck!
the_drifter
02-15-2006, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Jason_Bourne
All in the wording, i said she didn't carry the show *single handedly*, because saying that does a disservice to the talents of AoT, MR, and JG who can also bring the show alive. However I'm really invested in the charecter of chloe so if she wasn't in the show i would stop watching. However if Lionel got killed off, it would be one less quality actor on the show and i would regret it for that, but i would still watch, if you get what i mean. As an actress she is very good, but she doesn't carry the show on her own, the above named actors/actresses are in the same league if you will, but as a charecter she's indispensible to me, is what i'm trying to say.
ok, i see what you're saying. and, i agree with you.
jaime,oburg
02-15-2006, 05:16 PM
What is great about the Chloe character is that she is unique to SV and her future isn't written. I like that we don't really know where Chloe is going to be when SV ends. I guess maybe that is why I find her so interesting. Her destiny is being written on SV. We really don't know where her journey is going to end. No other character has that distinction.:)
ms.c.
02-22-2006, 06:47 PM
In a nutshell she is the one charecter left on the show that i really feel for. I used to say that about Lex and Clark too, but they are now so all over the place in terms of charecter development that it's impossible for me to connect with them or feel any kind of sympathy towards them because they just don't feel real. Chloe is the last emotionally resonant charecter for me.
I watch because of the action and the charecters, and they've gotten rid of Pete, Johnathon, lex is nothing like his former self, Clark mopes about lana all the time and if we lose chloe as well then it would just be the final straw.
Jason Bourne - I have felt that way since Season 4.
SacredK
02-26-2006, 07:42 PM
Yea, Martha? C'mon.
I'd say the best overall actor is Michael Ros and best actress; Allison Mack.
LastingChlarker
04-25-2006, 11:14 PM
I'll have to agree with the first post in this thread. The episode was alright in itself, but Allison Mack was its salvation. That girl needs greater material. She's proved it time and again.
Anyway, she made Tomb for me.
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