View Full Version : Lana Just Stood and Watched Chloe scream for help and be sedated!?!?
tomwellingishott
02-10-2006, 08:25 AM
I know it's not Lana's fault that Chloe wasn't "herself," but to just stand there and let your BEST friend get sedated right in front of you seems kinda wrong. I mean, Chloe was screaming Lana's name and begging for help. Lana could have at least said something like, "Stop it! You're huring her!" and then an orderly could have taken Lana out of Chloe's room. ANY response out of Lana would have been nice!
No-El
02-10-2006, 08:56 AM
Lana could not really say anything because of the the tension and stress of the moment as the Doctor and orderly had to focus their attentions to Chloe's seeming need.
She may have stayed after sedation as the Doctor and orderly left Chloe so that she may get her needed rest and say to them:
"Doctor? Will Chloe be ok?" Etc....
asparks
02-10-2006, 08:59 AM
I don't think that Lana had any other option but to just stand there and watch. It would be an extremly difficult moment and she might have thought that it was the best for Chloe at the moment. Lana isn't a doctor, and she knows that her friend is seeing things in her head. There isn't much that she can do.
KRAM-el
02-10-2006, 09:04 AM
They HAD to use Lana in that scene. That's her normal reaction to everything... stand there & look stunned (unless she's Lana-Fu). I paid more attention to AM's phenomenal acting -- I just blotted Lana right out of my mind...:rolleyes:
asparks
02-10-2006, 09:05 AM
As I said on another thread, when Lana just stands there not speaking he only thing I hear is wind rushing through a tunnel.
Billy Jor-El
02-10-2006, 09:08 AM
KRAM-El has got it. Lana just stood there stunned because she was witnessing what a great actress AM is :D
lanakk1
02-10-2006, 09:14 AM
Is she suppose to go against the doctors? chole look obviously crazy.
voytek
02-10-2006, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by lanakk1
Is she suppose to go against the doctors? chole look obviously crazy.
Yep. Didn't you know? EVERYTHING that happens is Lana's fault. It still amazes me what she gets blamed for.
SmallvilleMan
02-10-2006, 09:38 AM
Why did you want Lana to do? Tackle them?
myankskent
02-10-2006, 09:41 AM
For the last time, Lana is a person that has continuously been lied to over and over again. How would you like it if the person you love lied to you all of the time? How would you react? You might break up with that person and that is probably where their relationship is headed, but remember something, she was happy with Clark at the beginning of season 5 so to tell her to just forget about Clark at this point is ridiculous. One minute things were great, the next the lies started up again.
voytek
02-10-2006, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
For the last time, Lana is a person that has continuously been lied to over and over again. How would you like it if the person you love lied to you all of the time? How would you react? You might break up with that person and that is probably where their relationship is headed, but remember something, she was happy with Clark at the beginning of season 5 so to tell her to just forget about Clark at this point is ridiculous. One minute things were great, the next the lies started up again.
Thank you! She was a good girlfriend. And they were both happy. Especially Clark. He finally attained his heart's desire. Did we not hear him say over and over how much he loved Lana and wanted to be with her since season one? We also watched Lana and Chloe get angry over Clark's obvious lies. Lana responded by pulling away from Clark's friendship. Chloe responded by investigating him with Lionel. I love Chloe and Lana but the fact remains she sided with his enemy because she was jealous and hurt. Lana has pleaded with Clark to be honest with her. She knows he is hiding something. Who wouldn't know? I give her props for staying as long as she did. They lost their virginities to one another and it's clear they had sex a few times. Clark got his powers back and then he was back to the lies and secrets. Lana didn't change. Clark changed BACK. She wanted to make love with her b/f. He was afraid and instead of telling her the TRUTH. He deflected onto her and she didn't fall for it. I think the Lana hate on this board overshadows things. Do you think we would be seeing a post like this if it were Lois just standing there? Perhaps. But I think not. Lana didn't do anything wrong. Who have we seen going to whom since their problems returned? Lana. She has gone to Clark and reached out. He greets her with more lies, accusations and deflections. But I'm sure some people blame Lana for that too.:lol:
No-El
02-10-2006, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by KRAM-el
They HAD to use Lana in that scene. That's her normal reaction to everything... stand there & look stunned (unless she's Lana-Fu). I paid more attention to AM's phenomenal acting -- I just blotted Lana right out of my mind...:rolleyes:
Lana's reaction as you describe is also:
Like a Deer on the road, caught in the Headlights of an on comng car!
Sorry, that brought up the 'Reckoning' episode car scene!:o :eek: :( :(
shirkie
02-10-2006, 11:31 AM
Now, we all know I'm definitely no Lana fan, but in this case, I have to stand up for her. Think about how absolutely scared Lana must have been right at that moment... Seeing her best friend undergoing what appeared to be a full-blown psychotic episode. The only other logical thing I could have seen her do at that point would have been to turn away in tears. The sedation and restraints needed to happen because Chloe was really getting out of control. Lana was at a loss for words and actions, and rightfully so.
Don't worry, everyone, I still wish the bus had done its job. ;)
shirkie
Batman_Beyonder
02-10-2006, 11:33 AM
I think Lana thought she was actually crazy, thats why she did not say anything.
KRAM-el
02-10-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by shirkie
The only other logical thing I could have seen her do at that point would have been to turn away in tears.
Don't worry, everyone, I still wish the bus had done its job. ;)
shirkie
On the first point, I don't think she has that much range (she's no AM). Second, AMEN. I'm still upset w/ that. :mad: ;) :p
margroks
02-10-2006, 11:38 AM
Lana got exactly what she deserved. She's been lying through her teeth from the beginningas well. And no, she hasn't been there for Clark; she's been with him as long as she thought she was getting what she wanted and the minute she found herwill crossed she dumped him and the way she deserted him at the graveyard in Reckoning said it all. Clark is now discovering that getting very often never lives up to the wanting part.
But how does this relate to the scene in which she stood mute while Chloe screamed for help? She could have asked the orderlies to back off, take it easy, asked where her father was...someone certainly should have. Gabe is alive and his absence should have been addressed. A slight rearrangement of the dialogue and situation could have had the doctor saying he wrecommended sending her to Belle Reve but Gabe, who was taking the redeye flight from LA was reluctant due to the cost and then Lana could have rushed to or called Lex to beg for financial help for her friend. Instead we got Lex strolling in and saying take her to Belle Reve when he's not even a relative and certainly not a doctor.
Lana just stands and stares all too often. She remains a poor excuse for a love interest with virtually no personality.
But God, Allison Mack was brilliant in every way. She played every bit, from possessed to seeing things to her worry she might really be having mental problems like her mom to screaming when they were injecting her and she begged them not to. I felt everything. She is amazing and her part is definitely the one with meat. She never fails to make Chloe come alive.
puddinpiester
02-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Lana did not know That Chloe was possessed. She assumed that Chloe was crazy. It's easier for her to assume what appears to be obvious rather than actually use brain energy to think about it. I read where one poster said something to this effect. I think Lana was way too quick to give up on Chloe and let Lex have at her, although I doubt Lana is insightful enough to figure out about Lex's ulterior motives. But, I would think that a true friend would try to help out another friend. Perhaps Lana thought she was being helpful. She would think that, of course. However, if you compare Clark's reaction to Chloe's behavior he was willing to give Chloe the benefit of a doubt. At the time he broke her out of the hospital, Clark did not know about the possession either. Still, he took action, and luckily for Clark and Chloe, this time things worked out for the better. I thought Clark's behavior was the behavior of a friend and even supermanly.
Dannyblue1
02-10-2006, 12:48 PM
Lana's reaction in the hospital, I'm actually okay with. I mean, yeah, Lois would've probably been demanding they take it easy with Chloe, or back off of her, etc. But is that really Lana. She does tend to be more passive.
As for going to Lex about having Chloe committed to Belle Reve, I want to say Lana just overreacted. That she saw Chloe like that and just freaked out. But, when you think about it, that was a pretty huge overreaction. A normal overreaction would've been being so upset that she ran away from the scene. Maybe had a little break down out in the parking lot. But taking steps to have Chloe committed to an insane asylum when the doctors at the hospital haven't even had time to really evaluate her condition yet? That's stepping over some serious lines right there.
myankskent
02-10-2006, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by puddinpiester
Lana did not know That Chloe was possessed. She assumed that Chloe was crazy. It's easier for her to assume what appears to be obvious rather than actually use brain energy to think about it. I read where one poster said something to this effect. I think Lana was way too quick to give up on Chloe and let Lex have at her, although I doubt Lana is insightful enough to figure out about Lex's ulterior motives. But, I would think that a true friend would try to help out another friend. Perhaps Lana thought she was being helpful. She would think that, of course. However, if you compare Clark's reaction to Chloe's behavior he was willing to give Chloe the benefit of a doubt. At the time he broke her out of the hospital, Clark did not know about the possession either. Still, he took action, and luckily for Clark and Chloe, this time things worked out for the better. I thought Clark's behavior was the behavior of a friend and even supermanly.
Remember one more thing, even Chloe now is lying to lana and is kind of distancing herself from her. You have to understand that Lana is alone, just like lex which is why they are having many scenes together. If Lana knew the secret, she could help out too, but as long as she doesn't know, yes, her character will go nowhere. So there is only one thing left to do, TELL LANA THE SECRET!
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by puddinpiester
Lana did not know That Chloe was possessed. She assumed that Chloe was crazy. It's easier for her to assume what appears to be obvious rather than actually use brain energy to think about it. I read where one poster said something to this effect. I think Lana was way too quick to give up on Chloe and let Lex have at her, although I doubt Lana is insightful enough to figure out about Lex's ulterior motives. But, I would think that a true friend would try to help out another friend. Perhaps Lana thought she was being helpful. She would think that, of course. However, if you compare Clark's reaction to Chloe's behavior he was willing to give Chloe the benefit of a doubt. At the time he broke her out of the hospital, Clark did not know about the possession either. Still, he took action, and luckily for Clark and Chloe, this time things worked out for the better. I thought Clark's behavior was the behavior of a friend and even supermanly.
she wasn't possessed in the hospital scene when she went crazy, or when clark broke her out.
LuckyKrypto
02-10-2006, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
So there is only one thing left to do, TELL LANA THE SECRET!
See I just wonder how that will ever happen.
margroks
02-10-2006, 01:59 PM
You did see Reckoning, right? And the real Lana coming out the minute she didn't get her way? Clark's been right all along not to trust her and show canon has made it clear, despite his stupid proposal and that whole nonsense which represented a total retconning of Lana the way she's been preented for four and a half years, that she would never accept him and would turn on him at some point in all liklihood. Poor little Lana lies and gets nasty when she doesn't get her way. Poor little Lana all alone? Clark and Chloe have been outsiders all their lives and Clark lost not only his family but his entire race but Lana whines and wants sympathy for being alone? I don't buy that for an instant. Enough with the tell her, tell her. Lana not only doesn't deserve to know and would be freaked out completely if she found out but it was boring as hell to see her just be told.
Now back to the actual topic which is Lana's ridiculous and unsympathetic reaction to Chloe. Why would she be so convinced instantly Chloe was crazy? Mulstiple people, including Lana, were possessed by the ghost of Dawn Stiles. Lana was possessed by Isobel and turned into Super Witch. Lana was affected by Kryptonite and saw through a madman's eyes.
She's seen lots of weird in Smallville. WHere's the tiniest bit of thinking Chloe might actually be seeing someone others can't? Any kind of empathy for her supposed friend? And wanting to ship her off to Belle Reve? Insane and totally not Lana's business to suggest it or get Lex to intervene where, I might add, he had no business sticking his nose in since he's not a relative nor really even a friend at this point.
clana4Everbaby
02-10-2006, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Remember one more thing, even Chloe now is lying to lana and is kind of distancing herself from her. You have to understand that Lana is alone, just like lex which is why they are having many scenes together. If Lana knew the secret, she could help out too, but as long as she doesn't know, yes, her character will go nowhere. So there is only one thing left to do, TELL LANA THE SECRET!
Amen to that!
SmallvilleMan
02-10-2006, 02:07 PM
You did see Reckoning, right? And the real Lana coming out the minute she didn't get her way? Clark's been right all along not to trust her and show canon has made it clear, despite his stupid proposal and that whole nonsense which represented a total retconning of Lana the way she's been preented for four and a half years, that she would never accept him and would turn on him at some point in all liklihood. Poor little Lana lies and gets nasty when she doesn't get her way. Poor little Lana all alone? Clark and Chloe have been outsiders all their lives and Clark lost not only his family but his entire race but Lana whines and wants sympathy for being alone? I don't buy that for an instant. Enough with the tell her, tell her. Lana not only doesn't deserve to know and would be freaked out completely if she found out but it was boring as hell to see her just be told.
Clark does trust her and if YOU saw reckoning, you would know that. And the fact of the matter is, she did accept him and his purposal. I'm sorry lana haters, but you can't deny what happened on screen. Just because it was a time reversal, doesn't it didn't happen, it did and it's what REALLY happened.
Damali
02-10-2006, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by margroks
Now back to the actual topic which is Lana's ridiculous and unsympathetic reaction to Chloe. Why would she be so convinced instantly Chloe was crazy? Mulstiple people, including Lana, were possessed by the ghost of Dawn Stiles. Lana was possessed by Isobel and turned into Super Witch. Lana was affected by Kryptonite and saw through a madman's eyes.
She's seen lots of weird in Smallville. WHere's the tiniest bit of thinking Chloe might actually be seeing someone others can't? Any kind of empathy for her supposed friend? And wanting to ship her off to Belle Reve? Insane and totally not Lana's business to suggest it or get Lex to intervene where, I might add, he had no business sticking his nose in since he's not a relative nor really even a friend at this point.
Trying to become prom queen by any measures and suicidal attempts are not the same thing. Chloe might have been possessed like the other characters on the show but Possessed!Chloe tried to kill herself and that threw everyone for a loop.
Normal!Chloe kept saying, she saw dead people, she wasn't acting like a different person as was the case when other people were possessed. Chloe seemed like herself but keep saying werid stuff and noboby knew what to do. Clark didn't believe a word of what Chloe was saying either... and their best friends, he just didn't like the fact that Lex was getting invloved and decided to move Chloe himself. Clark had to punch through a wall in the bathroom to be convinced of what Chloe was telling him before he took real action.
Besides Lana wasn't the only one who thought Chloe should have stayed in the hospital or that something was really wrong....Lois her cousin...thought the samething. That ghost tried to hurt Chloe and Lana not knowing Chloe was possessed thought she would be safe in a hospital. Lana asking Lex for help makes some sense. Lex can pull a lot of strings, and he's well connected.
puddinpiester
02-10-2006, 03:08 PM
It's true that Chloe was exactly/technically possessed at the time Lana saw her in the hospital. But, the spirit had made a definite connection and that connection was affecting Chloe and somehow affecting Chloe's senses/perceptions. Had that spirit not contacted her, most likely Chloe wouldn't be behaving/talking strangely. Yes, Clark had doubts, but he did not give into the appearance of Chloe's insa nity and he didn't give in to Lex's take charge kind of attitude. I still believe that Clark stood by Chloe while Lana did not.
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Damali
Trying to become prom queen by any measures and suicidal attempts are not the same thing. Chloe might have been possessed like the other characters on the show but Possessed!Chloe tried to kill herself and that threw everyone for a loop.
Normal!Chloe kept saying, she saw dead people, she wasn't acting like a different person as was the case when other people were possessed. Chloe seemed like herself but keep saying werid stuff and noboby knew what to do. Clark didn't believe a word of what Chloe was saying either... and their best friends, he just didn't like the fact that Lex was getting invloved and decided to move Chloe himself. Clark had to punch through a wall in the bathroom to be convinced of what Chloe was telling him before he took real action.
Besides Lana wasn't the only one who thought Chloe should have stayed in the hospital or that something was really wrong....Lois her cousin...thought the samething. That ghost tried to hurt Chloe and Lana not knowing Chloe was possessed thought she would be safe in a hospital. Lana asking Lex for help makes some sense. Lex can pull a lot of strings, and he's well connected.
i agree! Not only did lana betray chloe, but lois, and lex. i wouldn't really say clark did though. i mean, there was a few times when he was almost convinced like the wall thing, but other than that he DID break her out of the hospital. you have to give him props for that.
BadToad
02-10-2006, 03:11 PM
Clark didn't believe a word of what Chloe was saying either... and their best friends, he just didn't like the fact that Lex was getting invloved and decided to move Chloe himself. Clark had to punch through a wall in the bathroom to be convinced of what Chloe was telling him before he took real action.
Clark wasn't sure what to believe, but he was still believing in, and supporting Chloe. He wasn't about to let her get hauled off to Belle Reve. And why did he punch through that wall? Because Chloe asked him to look behind the wall....which he did. If he really thought she was just nutty, why would he do that at all? He didn't know exactly what to think, but Chloe asked him to do it, so he did. Now, that defines a friend to me, IMO
SmallvilleMan
02-10-2006, 03:11 PM
I think Chloe's betrayed Lana by not telling her the truth about the time reversal. What goes around, comes around.
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by puddinpiester
It's true that Chloe was exactly/technically possessed at the time Lana saw her in the hospital. But, the spirit had made a definite connection and that connection was affecting Chloe and somehow affecting Chloe's senses/perceptions. Had that spirit not contacted her, most likely Chloe wouldn't be behaving/talking strangely. Yes, Clark had doubts, but he did not give into the appearance of Chloe's insa nity and he didn't give in to Lex's take charge kind of attitude. I still believe that Clark stood by Chloe while Lana did not.
yeah, i mentioned that she was possessed up there ^ too. i think the main reason why she was acting kinda strange even when she wasn't possessed is because 1) she saw a dead girl which can be pretty...well you know and 2) she thought that she really was losing her mind and 3) she just wanted people to believe her, which made her seem even crazier.
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I think Chloe's betrayed Lana by not telling her the truth about the time reversal. What goes around, comes around.
Chloe promised not to tell her or anyone about Clarks secret. how could she tell her about the time reversal without explaining about clark?
Lana_Lang #1
02-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Here it is straight and simple!
Clark doesn't trust Lex, he hasn't trust him in a long time and Clark still goes to Lex for help when he needs it.
Clark went to Lex to get the antidote to save Lana and Chloe's life in Thirst.
So why is Lana in the wrong when she goes to Lex when she's really worried about her best friends well being?
Considering Lex went into Belle Reeve psycho and came out cured and Lex has first hand experiencein Belle Reeve. Not to mention Lex has the money to get Chloe to Belle Reeve and cure her as soon as possible.
I would've done the same thing. She just wanted to make she Chloe got the help she needed and was cured as fast as possible.
Would you had rather Lana not done anything, walked out of the room and pretend it never happened? Pretend nothing was wrong and did nothing to try and help?
I don't get what you people keep complaining about.
What would YOU have done?
BoSoxJim
02-10-2006, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by KRAM-el
They HAD to use Lana in that scene. That's her normal reaction to everything... stand there & look stunned (unless she's Lana-Fu). I paid more attention to AM's phenomenal acting -- I just blotted Lana right out of my mind...:rolleyes:
can you teach your brother how to do that. it would make my viewing more enjoyable.
SmallvilleMan
02-10-2006, 03:16 PM
Chloe promised not to tell her or anyone about Clarks secret. how could she tell her about the time reversal without explaining about clark?
"I don't how he did it Lana, but Clark went back in time and saved your life. You were hit by a car, when Lex was chasing you. You and Clark were going to get married."
Just like that, she doesn't have to tell Lana how Clark did it or anything about the secret. All she has to say is that and then she can add, go talk to Clark about it. I think it's her duty as Lana's best friend to do so, because obviously she and Clark are hurting because of it. Not to mention the fact I don't see any guilt from her about it. I mean, maybe i could understand not telling her, but not even caring you know it? Horrible to me.
Lana_Lang #1
02-10-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
"I don't how he did it Lana, but Clark went back in time and saved your life. You were hit by a car, when Lex was chasing you. You and Clark were going to get married."
Just like that, she doesn't have to tell Lana how Clark did it or anything about the secret. All she has to say is that and then she can add, go talk to Clark about it. I think it's her duty as Lana's best friend to do so.
I completely agree with this too!
myankskent
02-10-2006, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
"I don't how he did it Lana, but Clark went back in time and saved your life. You were hit by a car, when Lex was chasing you. You and Clark were going to get married."
Just like that, she doesn't have to tell Lana how Clark did it or anything about the secret. All she has to say is that and then she can add, go talk to Clark about it. I think it's her duty as Lana's best friend to do so, because obviously she and Clark are hurting because of it. Not to mention the fact I don't see any guilt from her about it. I mean, maybe i could understand not telling her, but not even caring you know it? Horrible to me.
I agree, all Chloe cares about is that she is special because she is the only one who knows the secret. She doesn't want to give that up. She can keep telling Clark to tell Lana but she knows that he will never do it. That's why she was so surprised when Clark said that he asked Lana to marry him. She didn't think that he would actually tell her, let alone propose to her.
tejdog1
02-10-2006, 03:21 PM
Uhhh....I'm no Lana fan (despise her, actually), BUT...remember Shattered? She tried to help out a psychotic Lex and ended up getting trampled by (MY HERO) Meteor or Stompy, or whatever he's called. She was most likely terrified of that happening again.
LuckyKrypto
02-10-2006, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
"I don't how he did it Lana, but Clark went back in time and saved your life. You were hit by a car, when Lex was chasing you. You and Clark were going to get married."
I don't think she can say that and still be Clark's friend too. I mean wouldn't she just be pushing Clark in to doing something that he's made a decission not to do? (To tell her)
SmallvilleMan
02-10-2006, 03:22 PM
I agree, all Chloe cares about is that she is special because she is the only one who knows the secret. She doesn't want to give that up. She can keep telling Clark to tell Lana but she knows that he will never do it. That's why she was so surprised when Clark said that he asked Lana to marry him. She didn't think that he would actually tell her, let alone propose to her
Yeah, I was thinking about that too. CHloe looked very surprised that he actually told her. I was thinking, she would be like atta boy right away or something like that. Instead she just stood there with her mouth open. Hmm...
hickorylane
02-10-2006, 03:22 PM
I think both Lana and Lois were both pretty crappy in this episode. Thank God Chloe has Clark, and he has her. They have really been solid for each other, it was nice to see. Lana wanted to put Chloe in Belle Reve of all places, and Lois agreed. Thanks Cuz.
But the trust between Clark and Chloe triumphed. Quite beautiful, like how she always is his cheerleader, confident, friend, and he is zoned into her, her voice, her being. Quite Cool
SmallvilleMan
02-10-2006, 03:24 PM
I don't think she can say that and still be Clark's friend too. I mean wouldn't she just be pushing Clark in to doing something that he's made a decission not to do? (To tell her)
But isn't it Lana's life that she's making Lana aware of? Lana has a right to know what happened. And even if he did get mad at her, Lana is her best friend, she should want to make things okay for her and it's best for clark as well.
LuckyKrypto
02-10-2006, 03:26 PM
I don't know, I think she (Chloe) is just caught in the middle. She knows things about both of her friends that neither one of them want the other to know.
I still think Clark should be the one to tell Lana, I don't think it should be Chloe. (But that's me :\ )
myankskent
02-10-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
But isn't it Lana's life that she's making Lana aware of? Lana has a right to know what happened. And even if he did get mad at her, Lana is her best friend, she should want to make things okay for her and it's best for clark as well.
Yeah, but Chloe doesn't really care about Lana, she cares about Clark. It's exactly what the lana haters have been saying about her. Chloe favors Clark over everyone and this is a classic example of it.
Kris-El
02-10-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by hickorylane
I think both Lana and Lois were both pretty crappy in this episode. Thank God Chloe has Clark, and he has her. They have really been solid for each other, it was nice to see. Lana wanted to put Chloe in Belle Reve of all places, and Lois agreed. Thanks Cuz.
Lana and Lois do not know what goes on in Belle Reeve like Clark and Lex do, if they thought that was the best care she could get, then of course they would want her to go there for treatment out of genuine concern. Lex however, should know better.
I think Lana's reaction to Chloe's madness was realistic and very fitting, I don't see what else she couldve done. She even went to Lex for help at the risk of getting randomly kissed again :p
if the situation had been switched and Chloe had been in Lana's place, i doubt there would b a thread titled 'OMG Chloe just stood there and let Lana's crazy ass be restrained?!?' lol
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Yeah, but Chloe doesn't really care about Lana, she cares about Clark. It's exactly what the lana haters have been saying about her. Chloe favors Clark over everyone and this is a classic example of it.
She may favor Clark, but she doesn't not care about Lana. I mean, when the meteor shower hit, who went back for her to know that she was okay? Chloe. And note: i am not a lana hater' I swear (holds up hand)
Toppa
02-10-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
For the last time, Lana is a person that has continuously been lied to over and over again. How would you like it if the person you love lied to you all of the time? How would you react? You might break up with that person and that is probably where their relationship is headed, but remember something, she was happy with Clark at the beginning of season 5 so to tell her to just forget about Clark at this point is ridiculous. One minute things were great, the next the lies started up again.
Lana's theme song should be Cry me a river. :rolleyes: She needs to grow a backbone and get over it.
Damali
02-10-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
Clark wasn't sure what to believe, but he was still believing in, and supporting Chloe. He wasn't about to let her get hauled off to Belle Reve. And why did he punch through that wall? Because Chloe asked him to look behind the wall....which he did. If he really thought she was just nutty, why would he do that at all? He didn't know exactly what to think, but Chloe asked him to do it, so he did. Now, that defines a friend to me, IMO
My point was, that Clark didn't take what Chloe said at face value. It doesn't matter if he wasn't sure what to believe, the fact remains that he didn't believe her...... until he used his superpowers. Lana doesn't have superpowers so its not like she could look through a wall and say Chloe you were right and you don't need to be in a hospital.
WangTang
02-10-2006, 04:12 PM
well Lana seen spaceships, taken on super powered aliens, been attcked by Meteor freaks, and survived a helicopter crash. But she has trouble beliving in chloes claims, which by the way is no weirder then useing a green rock to sedate two aliens. all the weird nonsense Lana and Clark have seen and down, i find it hard to beleive they might think Chloe to be crazy.
Kris-El
02-10-2006, 04:14 PM
I agree, Damali. Clark was just as skeptical, and he didnt even witness her freakout in the hospital. He was reluctant to even look through the wall. Lana just wanted to find out Chloe's options, knowing that Lex had been cured. I dont think that she at all knows what bad things happened at Belle Reeve
midnite_spark
02-10-2006, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Lana_Lang #1
Here it is straight and simple!
Clark doesn't trust Lex, he hasn't trust him in a long time and Clark still goes to Lex for help when he needs it.
Clark went to Lex to get the antidote to save Lana and Chloe's life in Thirst.
So why is Lana in the wrong when she goes to Lex when she's really worried about her best friends well being?
Considering Lex went into Belle Reeve psycho and came out cured and Lex has first hand experiencein Belle Reeve. Not to mention Lex has the money to get Chloe to Belle Reeve and cure her as soon as possible.
I would've done the same thing. She just wanted to make she Chloe got the help she needed and was cured as fast as possible.
I totally agree with u. lana was trying with her best to help. Given how she doesn't noe anything bout clark so she can't go help devise a plan on how to save chloe by themselves. she had very limited resources.
how is lana's reaction not realistic, i have no idea. I prolly would have been in the same reaction state. to see ur best friend, the one who's always been so level headed, talk bout blook on the floor and little girls in the bathroom- all things YOU don't see. how would U react? "haha u're so funny chloe! let's go get a cup of coffee?" u'd be shocked. prolly millions of thoughts were running thru lana's head when all of a sudden doctors and nurses came rushing thru the door. shocked- I wouldn't know what to do either. seriously, think bout it. it would take a lil bit to have the whole thing processed and when u're done thinking, the doctors have already sedated her. lana's reaction was right on point.
Would you had rather Lana not done anything, walked out of the room and pretend it never happened? Pretend nothing was wrong and did nothing to try and help?
if that would have happened...the people would have just started to complain bout how lana DID NOTHING to help chloe. what a bad friend blahblahblahblah...
seriously lana had like a total of...what....5 minutes total screen time this episode and yet....some people can STILL find things to complain about. it's absolutely amazing i think.
i think, if lana found a cure for chloe, someone would go "lana! that b****! didn't tell clark that she had a cure! going like that and curing chloe all by herself. what? is she trying to win clark's affection back? she only did it so clark would tell her the truth..."
something along those lines...
::sigh:: i don't noe what they're complaining bout either....
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 04:17 PM
i think she may have a clue. think about Mortal. they were from Belle Reeve and they said alot about the stuff that goes on in there. im not trying to argue, just mentioning.
Kris-El
02-10-2006, 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by midnite_spark
f that would have happened...the people would have just started to complain bout how lana DID NOTHING to help chloe. what a bad friend blahblahblahblah...
seriously lana had like a total of...what....5 minutes total screen time this episode and yet....some people can STILL find things to complain about. it's absolutely amazing i think.
i think, if lana found a cure for chloe, someone would go "lana! that b****! didn't tell clark that she had a cure! going like that and curing chloe all by herself. what? is she trying to win clark's affection back? she only did it so clark would tell her the truth..."
something along those lines...
::sigh:: i don't noe what they're complaining bout either....
ahhhh i couldnt agree more...thank you.
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by midnite_spark
I totally agree with u. lana was trying with her best to help. Given how she doesn't noe anything bout clark so she can't go help devise a plan on how to save chloe by themselves. she had very limited resources.
how is lana's reaction not realistic, i have no idea. I prolly would have been in the same reaction state. to see ur best friend, the one who's always been so level headed, talk bout blook on the floor and little girls in the bathroom- all things YOU don't see. how would U react? "haha u're so funny chloe! let's go get a cup of coffee?" u'd be shocked. prolly millions of thoughts were running thru lana's head when all of a sudden doctors and nurses came rushing thru the door. shocked- I wouldn't know what to do either. seriously, think bout it. it would take a lil bit to have the whole thing processed and when u're done thinking, the doctors have already sedated her. lana's reaction was right on point.
do bashers really put that much thought into it? wow. thats pathetic
if that would have happened...the people would have just started to complain bout how lana DID NOTHING to help chloe. what a bad friend blahblahblahblah...
seriously lana had like a total of...what....5 minutes total screen time this episode and yet....some people can STILL find things to complain about. it's absolutely amazing i think.
i think, if lana found a cure for chloe, someone would go "lana! that b****! didn't tell clark that she had a cure! going like that and curing chloe all by herself. what? is she trying to win clark's affection back? she only did it so clark would tell her the truth..."
something along those lines...
::sigh:: i don't noe what they're complaining bout either.... :confused: :confused: :confused:
do bashers really put that much thought into it? wow. thats pathetic.
myankskent
02-10-2006, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by midnite_spark
I totally agree with u. lana was trying with her best to help. Given how she doesn't noe anything bout clark so she can't go help devise a plan on how to save chloe by themselves. she had very limited resources.
how is lana's reaction not realistic, i have no idea. I prolly would have been in the same reaction state. to see ur best friend, the one who's always been so level headed, talk bout blook on the floor and little girls in the bathroom- all things YOU don't see. how would U react? "haha u're so funny chloe! let's go get a cup of coffee?" u'd be shocked. prolly millions of thoughts were running thru lana's head when all of a sudden doctors and nurses came rushing thru the door. shocked- I wouldn't know what to do either. seriously, think bout it. it would take a lil bit to have the whole thing processed and when u're done thinking, the doctors have already sedated her. lana's reaction was right on point.
if that would have happened...the people would have just started to complain bout how lana DID NOTHING to help chloe. what a bad friend blahblahblahblah...
seriously lana had like a total of...what....5 minutes total screen time this episode and yet....some people can STILL find things to complain about. it's absolutely amazing i think.
i think, if lana found a cure for chloe, someone would go "lana! that b****! didn't tell clark that she had a cure! going like that and curing chloe all by herself. what? is she trying to win clark's affection back? she only did it so clark would tell her the truth..."
something along those lines...
::sigh:: i don't noe what they're complaining bout either....
Yeah, I agree as well. Nicely said. This conversation is such a waste of time because someone will always have something negative to say about Lana. I guess people hate her so much that it is ruining their enjoyment of the show, which is fine by me if that's the case. Hating characters can only lead to giving up the show for good which would be sad seeing as how smallville needs to keep their ratings up. These last two episodes were subpar but hopefully the show will heat up down the road.
attitudejc
02-10-2006, 05:34 PM
i hate character haters. period.
10-5-4-9
02-10-2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by attitudejc
i hate character haters. period.
Sometimes there are legitimate reasons to hate characters. Myself, Lana has always gotten on my nerves. She is a whiny little ***** that always gets her way. I hate people like that.
LuckyKrypto
02-10-2006, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
This conversation is such a waste of time because someone will always have something negative to say about Lana. I guess people hate her so much that it is ruining their enjoyment of the show, which is fine by me if that's the case.
I think we need to remember that Lana is not a real person, she is just a character on a show. Just because people talk about her 'negativly' doesn't mean they all hate her :rolleyes:
I find Lana very annoying at times, but I still enjoy watching Smallville :)
shirkie
02-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Again, I absolutely abhor Lana, but I challenge everyone in this thread to come up with a better response than standing there and staring.
What else was Lana supposed to do? Run over to the doctors while screaming "No, don't!" and ripping away their restraints? Dance up and down yelling "Finally! I'm the winner of the Lana vs. Chloe KSite boards rivalry!" Laugh? Lana-Fu the doctors?
I think whoever brought up what happened the last time a friend of hers had psychotic symptoms-- Lex and Meteor the Stompy Horse-- made an excellent point.
shirkie
midnite_spark
02-10-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by shirkie
Again, I absolutely abhor Lana, but I challenge everyone in this thread to come up with a better response than standing there and staring.
What else was Lana supposed to do? Run over to the doctors while screaming "No, don't!" and ripping away their restraints? Dance up and down yelling "Finally! I'm the winner of the Lana vs. Chloe KSite boards rivalry!" Laugh? Lana-Fu the doctors?
I think whoever brought up what happened the last time a friend of hers had psychotic symptoms-- Lex and Meteor the Stompy Horse-- made an excellent point.
shirkie
thank u!
sari_chem
02-10-2006, 06:50 PM
I agree with those who say that Lana's reaction was perfectly reasonable. She was just shocked. I probably would have reacted (or not reacted as the case may be) the same way. The situation was terrifying...
As for Lana going to Lex, she didn't right out and say "Yo, Lex. My best friend is kind of nuts. Mind shipping her off to the nut house?" She actually asked him if Belle Reve helped Lex, and Lex was the one who got the ball rolling on the transfer. She trusted him when he said that he got cured there. And Lois agreed that she should be taken to Belle Reve. This doesn't make either Lana or Lois bad friends (cousin in Lois' case). They don't know what Belle Reve is really about. So they think that doctors who specialize in mental illness would be good for Chloe
10-5-4-9
02-10-2006, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by shirkie
Again, I absolutely abhor Lana, but I challenge everyone in this thread to come up with a better response than standing there and staring.
What else was Lana supposed to do? Run over to the doctors while screaming "No, don't!" and ripping away their restraints? Dance up and down yelling "Finally! I'm the winner of the Lana vs. Chloe KSite boards rivalry!" Laugh? Lana-Fu the doctors?
I think whoever brought up what happened the last time a friend of hers had psychotic symptoms-- Lex and Meteor the Stompy Horse-- made an excellent point.
shirkie
Lana has been around long enough to trust Chloe and to know that not all is perfect in Smallville. At least, a "don't hurt her!" was warranted.
Watching Smallville
02-10-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by tomwellingishott
I know it's not Lana's fault that Chloe wasn't "herself," but to just stand there and let your BEST friend get sedated right in front of you seems kinda wrong. I mean, Chloe was screaming Lana's name and begging for help. Lana could have at least said something like, "Stop it! You're huring her!" and then an orderly could have taken Lana out of Chloe's room. ANY response out of Lana would have been nice!
What's she supposed to do? I've been in that situation. You can't do anything.
Lana_Lang #1
02-10-2006, 09:19 PM
Me too I've been there. You're helpless, in one side you wanna rush over there and help out your friend and the other side is if something really is wrong, then you want your friend to get the help he/she needs.
Watching Smallville
02-10-2006, 09:32 PM
Yep. It's a rough sitatuation all around.
BoSoxJim
02-10-2006, 09:34 PM
I can't fault the writers here :( Lana behaved as most people would in her place.
ALthough I thought for minute they were injecting her with a green liquid. Could have just had midori on the mind.
tejdog1
02-10-2006, 10:23 PM
Man, that would've been sinister! Green liquid!
tomwellingishott
02-12-2006, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by 10-5-4-9
At least, a "don't hurt her!" was warranted. I agree, and those saying "What was she supposed to do? Attack the doctors and break the restraints?" Nobody ever said she should have done that. But the least she could have done was say "Please, don;t hurt her" (or something to that effect). Chloe was screaming Lana's name and begging for help. Lana could have even tried to comfort CHloe by saying, "Chloe, calm down, they're only trying to help" It probably would not have worked but at least she tried to comfort her best friend. I'm not saying Lana should have left Chloe and went into the hall; that would just be insensitive (unless she was removed from Chloe's room by an orderly or something.
Also, those saying that if Lana knew Clark's secret, this never would have happened... WTF are you talking about? What does Clark's secret have ANYTHING to do with this?!?!
And as for "Chloe owes it to Lana to tell her Clark's secret." and "Chloe just wants to feel special by being the only one that knows Clark's secret"... Okay, so you want Chloe to betray Clark, go behind his back, break a promise she made NOT to "be the iceberg to his Titanic," and blab Clark's secret to Lana? No, a true friend would not do that. Besides, then Lana would find something to complain about, like: "Why are you the one telling me this Chloe? Clark, why couldn't you trust me with this information? Blah, blah, blah..." Who would trust a friend that goes behind your back and feeds information to other people, whether teh other person is friend or not. It is still not Chloe's secret to tell. It is Clark's decision to tell Lana if and when he is ready.
Does anyone remember the episode where Clark asked Chloe to ask Lana how long Lana has been working for Lex? Chloe's reply was that she was NOT going to spy on Lana because she was her friend, nor would she interfere between Clark and Lana. So it was okay for Chloe to reject giving information to Clark regarding Lana, but it's HORRIBLE when Chloe does not give information to Lana regarding Clark? :rolleyes: That makes PERFECT sense... thanks for clearing that up.
shirkie
02-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Sinister green liquid? Like this?
http://www.superdickery.com/bondage/38.html
Hee!
shirkie
Watching Smallville
02-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by tomwellingishott
I agree, and those saying "What was she supposed to do? Attack the doctors and break the restraints?" Nobody ever said she should have done that. But the least she could have done was say "Please, don;t hurt her" (or something to that effect).
Like I said, I've been there. It's a difficult situation. As someone who was in her twenties, I was frozen in shock seeing such a thing. Lana's 18. If you've been through it, it looked authentic.
Superman790
02-12-2006, 04:48 PM
it is just like when a kid gets a shot. I am sure no parent wants to see there child crying and trying to run away when they are getting a shot.
You have to just stand by and watch because you believe that it is what is best for them.
At the time, I think Lana believed that the best thing for Chloe was to be sedated. Lets be realistic hear, in everyone's mind, Chloe just tried to kill herself. If she was getting that worked up she could have hurt herself or someone else.
photogirl
02-12-2006, 06:41 PM
Lana should have said something!!!!
tomwellingishott
02-12-2006, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Superman790
it is just like when a kid gets a shot. I am sure no parent wants to see there child crying and trying to run away when they are getting a shot.
You have to just stand by and watch because you believe that it is what is best for them. When I was younger, if I started screaming like crazy when the doctor was giving me a shot, I doubt my parents would have just stood there and watched. They either would have tried to comfort me by saying something to make me relax or they would make sure the doctor wasn't hurting me.
Originally posted by photogirl
Lana should have said something!!!! Agreed.
Watching Smallville
02-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Some people react in one way, some people react in another. The writers chose the "shocked" route. I think it's a valid choice. If you haven't been in that situation yourself, it's unfair to judge someone else's actions.
Superman790
02-13-2006, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by tomwellingishott
When I was younger, if I started screaming like crazy when the doctor was giving me a shot, I doubt my parents would have just stood there and watched. They either would have tried to comfort me by saying something to make me relax or they would make sure the doctor wasn't hurting me.
I guess it depends on the child/parent. When I was younger I always cried and screamed because I didn't want to get a shot. It wasn't the doctors fault, I just didn't like them so calming me down was useless because I knew once it was all said and done I would get the shot no matter what. I guess the comparison wasn't as great as I first thought.
I see your point though, and I agree that Lana could have said something like "your hurting her" or "don't worry Chloe, you'll be fine", but past that she had no control. So instead she just stood their shocked.
attitudejc
02-13-2006, 01:25 PM
yeah, you can really go both ways on this case.
tomwellingishott
02-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Some people react in one way, some people react in another. The writers chose the "shocked" route. I think it's a valid choice. If you haven't been in that situation yourself, it's unfair to judge someone else's actions. But I have been in a similar situation before, and I reacted. I guess it just depends on the person and the situation... however, I still think Lana should have said something
Watching Smallville
02-13-2006, 04:11 PM
Well, they decided to go a different way. I guess what I'm saying is, as long as the writers make a valid choice, then I'm okay with what the characters are doing, and I'm okay with the way they're telling the story. I mean, we could say, so and so should have done such and such about any action any character takes. As long as the choice is a valid one, I don't have a problem with it.
j-kent
02-13-2006, 04:54 PM
all i gotta say is lana is just so stupid and naive now i mean going to lex is logical but man she can't listen to her own friend...
also how could be even be associated with lex with all the trust issues
superman_115
02-14-2006, 10:43 AM
If you think about it, you don't want to get caught between a person losing their mind and the doctor trying to sedate her.
watcher4
02-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by superman_115
If you think about it, you don't want to get caught between a person losing their mind and the doctor trying to sedate her.
He could have sedated Lana by mistake?
RedDwarfette
02-14-2006, 05:48 PM
Not normally, no. But you generally do show a little more emotion - concern and compassion for starters. I'm not saying Lana didn't feel those, however judging by her facial expressions, it was kind of hard to tell.
asparks
02-15-2006, 05:47 PM
Maybe Lana thought that Chloe needed to be sedated, if Lana thought that she was really having mental issues it might have been the right thing to do.
UpandAtom
02-16-2006, 02:38 PM
That's what I would think too if I saw my friend act like that. Chloe was acting the way Lex did in "Shattered" and "Memoria". She didn't want the situation to be repeated. She let the doctors sedate her because she thought it would be the best thing for everybody.
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