I will say it, Lana needs to go.

[superman_115]

Yea, I said it, Lana needs to leave the show and I don't mean dying off.

I mean vacation like sorry Smallville is not the place for me and leave for good.

Yea, she went to Paris and what happened there, she brought back a crazy boyfriend and a runining of season 4 with her stupid witch story line arc.

Now in season 5, she is wondering around grasping at any attention like she has never been loved by anyone.

I am not really impressed with the writer's when it comes to her character. Stop the direction of her character and quit having her be the wedge between Lex and Clark.

That is what is surprises me the most, they have so many angles they could use to have Clark hate Lex and vice versa, but to throw Lana into the mix really upsets me.

I have never really been a huge Lana fan, but now, I am just sick of watching her in the scenes.

Chloe and Clark together on screen is amazing and that is what I like to see more of.

And just to add something, it seems like Annette O'Toole misses acting with John because their chemistry together was so good as well.

[kal-el_Girl]

I agree lana needs to go!!
and I miss John so bad. *cries softly*

[KRAM-el]

Absolutely right on all fronts. Lana's "necessity" in the big scheme of things has been consistently weakening... but TPTB continue to 'invent' or 'contrive' ways to keep her right in the middle of everything. She really needs to be phased out (and quickly). Popularity & fanbase are issues that TPTB refuse to hurdle, not to mention that they are so infatuated w/ KK & her character that they no longer wear "blinders" -- they've actually gouged their own eyes out!!! I KNOW I'm going to offend KK, Lana & CLANA fans (not my intention, really - this is just my viewpoint) but she really is just an 'average' actress... This is never more clear than when KK & AM are in a scene together -- the 'range' between the two of them is wider than the Grand Canyon. I will give her credit for catching lightning in a bottle once -- her portrayal of "Louise" - but has not since recaptured the magic of that role.

If you consider the mythos (which many of you do), Lana was CK's H.S. flame... They are in College now, & that's when most people 'move on' in their relationships. Why drag out this pain ANY longer? If Lexana's the goal, then don't have her wade around on the steps, PITCH her into the deep end (maybe she'll drown :lol: )!!! And just to assure you that this is not just a "masculine" opinion, my wife (also a fan of the show) grits her teeth and makes snide comments whenever Lana comes on screen (her opinion of KK's talent supports mine, as well). She notices that both Clark AND Lex seem to turn to 'Jelly' whenever Lana comes around... these are supposed to be the shows 2 STRONGEST characters!!! :mad: As it is, the strongest characters on the show are Chloe & Lionel, & they don't seem to be negatively affected by the "object of TPTB's affections". Even in a SV cast picture (from a previous season, as Pete is there) has "Lana" in the foreground, in front of everybody! Clark is on the end!?!?!?! I always thought this was supposed to be the story of Clark Kent's journey from BDA to Supes -- but instead it's a journey into the life & relationships of Lana Lang -- and the destruction, desolation & debris she leaves in her wake... :eek: :mad:

[Soline Yayire]

She has no purpose any more. And to make her the cause of Clark and Lex being arch enemies is just a shame to the mythos...
I mean come on.

[Vatusia]

Yeah, the problem is that Lana's only purpose on the show is as a love interest because she has been given no personality of her own, or real relationships other than a friendship with Chloe which she repeatedly abuses and romantic relationships with various men. Having been invented as a love interest for Clark (and nothing else, except now also a love interest for Lex), there is no reason to see her in most storylines now.

I am not bothered by Lana being at the center of the Clark/Lex rivalry, because there are other factors at work and other storylines within that relationship that aren't Lanacentric, either now or in the offing. I rather like Lana's obsessive interest in the ship - it's the one real piece of solid character progress we've seen for her this season. Hopefully the writers will follow through on it where it must lead - Lana becoming morally ambiguous (and acknowledged as such by Clark, Chloe and the other 'good guys') until she actually pushes so hard she discovers Clark's secret, in such an unscrupulous way that Clark, rather than taking her to the FOS and proposing, distances himself from her even as she begs for forgiveness and a second chance.

I also want Lex's mad passionate love for her to be revealed as more about his rivalry with Clark than the other way around.

Lana can stay if TPTB do this. :D

[lanakk1]

yet another lana-haters thread. sights:( , really guys its getting tiring. TPTB smart. If lana go, so will the ratings. end of discussion.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by superman_115
Yea, I said it, Lana needs to leave the show and I don't mean dying off.

I mean vacation like sorry Smallville is not the place for me and leave for good.

Yea, she went to Paris and what happened there, she brought back a crazy boyfriend and a runining of season 4 with her stupid witch story line arc.

Now in season 5, she is wondering around grasping at any attention like she has never been loved by anyone.

I am not really impressed with the writer's when it comes to her character. Stop the direction of her character and quit having her be the wedge between Lex and Clark.

That is what is surprises me the most, they have so many angles they could use to have Clark hate Lex and vice versa, but to throw Lana into the mix really upsets me.

I have never really been a huge Lana fan, but now, I am just sick of watching her in the scenes.

Chloe and Clark together on screen is amazing and that is what I like to see more of.

And just to add something, it seems like Annette O'Toole misses acting with John because their chemistry together was so good as well.

Alright, I hear what you're saying. How about this solution. Lana, who is actually in the comics, stays and learns Clark's secret and Chloe leaves. Why can't the show go in that direction?

[ShaftDu]

it is sad. If they really wanted Lana to be the rift between Lex and Clark, I would have her died in that car wreck. Seriously, Clark would NEVER forgive Lex.

[Netmaster]

Originally posted by myankskent
Alright, I hear what you're saying. How about this solution. Lana, who is actually in the comics, stays and learns Clark's secret and Chloe leaves. Why can't the show go in that direction?

That's exactly the way it needs to be resolved.

That way Lois can further her destiny as a future reporter and future (note future) love of Clark/Superman, and Lana can be "the friend that knows the secret", as that's also her main role in the comics.

The only character left that really should go is Chloe. Her absence would lead to major character development for nearly every character on the show (except for maybe Lex and Martha).

Chloe leaving Smallville would finally give Lana some much needed development after being stagnant for 5 seasons, but Lana has to find out the secret and be Clarks' most trusted friend, and only his friend (no romance) or it won't work (we don't need to go back over roads already traveled).;)

[KRAM-el]

If the "resolution" is to remove the one "intelligent & selfless" character (Chloe), & expand the "self-absorbed, insecure & insincere" one (Lana) -- making her the true "star" of the show in the process -- SV has not only 'jumped' the shark, it has been DEVOURED by it. A sad end it would be... :( And for those of you so insulted by what you deem a "Lana bashing", there are groups who "bash" EVERY character -- maybe you should let EVERYONE have their opinion... it promotes discussion. You're free to disagree if you want. It's a "free" forum... :mad:

[myankskent]

Originally posted by KRAM-el
If the "resolution" is to remove the one "intelligent & selfless" character (Chloe), & expand the "self-absorbed, insecure & insincere" one (Lana) -- making her the true "star" of the show in the process -- SV has not only 'jumped' the shark, it has been DEVOURED by it. A sad end it would be... :( And for those of you so insulted by what you deem a "Lana bashing", there are groups who "bash" EVERY character -- maybe you should let EVERYONE have their opinion... it promotes discussion. You're free to disagree if you want. I'ts a "free" forum... :mad:

But can I debate something with you for a second? How is Lana self-absorbed? She loves Clark and he lies to her. Wouldn't you want to know the truth too? Lana is not a bad character in my opinion, she just wants the truth. Chloe may be a good character now, but once Clark finally accepts his destiny, there will be no need for her, and Lana for that matter. It is at that point where you have to decide which characters are good for the show's future. Is Chloe a character that can hang around while Clark goes from Lana to Lois? I don't think so. Can Lana be a character that can be friends with Clark in the future just like in the comics, probably. Can Lois be a character that can serve a purpose in Clark's future? I guess she can if she ever gets her act together and becomes a journalist.

[Lara Lane]

Originally posted by Soline Yayire
She has no purpose any more. And to make her the cause of Clark and Lex being arch enemies is just a shame to the mythos...
I mean come on.

I agree, some years in the future, Smallville will be like the "black sheep" of the Supes familly by all those who'll keep up following superman's story (in comics, future movies or tv series)

[Polomontana]

Lana Lang is useless in Smallville. This happens, because the writers never flushed out Lana's character. Everything about the character has been tied to Clark and with her and Clark splitting up. the character becomes useless. The writers have really developed the character Chloe Sullivan. Now all Lana does is make Lex look bad. Lex is at his best when he's facing off Lionel or Clark.

Maybe Lana should visit Pete, and they can come back in the series finale engaged.

[Lara Lane]

Originally posted by KRAM-el
there are groups who "bash" EVERY character -- maybe you should let EVERYONE have their opinion... it promotes discussion. You're free to disagree if you want. It's a "free" forum... :mad:

I really don't understand this. I agree that everyone is entitled to have an opinion but... why the bashing? There's no need of that, we can all just express what we think without saying "I hate this character and they are losers!" (I can't help but have Smashmouth's song 'why can't we be friends' in my head :lol: )

And Lana doesn't need to go, she just needs to start being written with more respect and realism.

[KRAM-el]

My issue is Lana's 'ever-expanding' role in things (this is TPTB's fault). She is 'tied into' everything, no matter what. Yes, it's the writing, I know, but to give an example of Lana's selfishness -- Last week, Vengeance, the "CK finding the watch" scene: Why couldn't they have shown Lana leaving the barn w/ the pawn ticket in her hand, & let CK find the watch & let him "have" his emotions & put the ball in his hands to find out how it got there, or use some of his 'super senses' to find out -- but NO. Lana has to come in & make a big scene about finding it, & all after SHE decided to 'go on a break' the ep before that! Yes, it's inconsistent writing, & TPTB's unwillingness to let CK continue his "journey" w/o her. It's my opinion, & I'm standing by it. I don't like what Lana's character does to Clark. I want to root for him. But when she's around, I hate him (or how he acts). If you like Lana, fine, more power to you. Personally, I don't, that's all.

[UpandAtom]

Lana's portrayal in the last few episodes was definetely better than some of her other ones.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by KRAM-el
My issue is Lana's 'ever-expanding' role in things (this is TPTB's fault). She is 'tied into' everything, no matter what. Yes, it's the writing, I know, but to give an example of Lana's selfishness -- Last week, Vengeance, the "CK finding the watch" scene: Why couldn't they have shown Lana leaving the barn w/ the pawn ticket in her hand, & let CK find the watch & let him "have" his emotions & put the ball in his hands to find out how it got there, or use some of his 'super senses' to find out -- but NO. Lana has to come in & make a big scene about finding it, & all after SHE decided to 'go on a break' the ep before that! Yes, it's inconsistent writing, & TPTB's unwillingness to let CK continue his "journey" w/o her. It's my opinion, & I'm standing by it. I don't like what Lana's character does to Clark. I want to root for him. But when she's around, I hate him (or how he acts). If you like Lana, fine, more power to you. Personally, I don't, that's all.

Classic example of someone not liking the fact that Lana did one good deed. If Chloe did this with the watch, it would be hailed as the best moment on Smallville by some on here.

You also say that you don't like what Lana's character does to Clark, isn't that the other way around? Is Lana keeping secrets from Clark? It's what Clark does to Lana that messes things up.

[mandylilc14]

Originally posted by Lara Lane

And Lana doesn't need to go, she just needs to start being written with more respect and realism.
i'll admit i'm not the biggest lana fan at the moment and if she left i wouldn't be heartbroken.. but at hte same time iwouldn't mind her staying if hte writers would just giver her a better storyline and better writing in general

[KRAM-el]

Originally posted by myankskent
Classic example of someone not liking the fact that Lana did one good deed. If Chloe did this with the watch, it would be hailed as the best moment on Smallville by some on here.
No, MY thoughts at least would have been the same, sorry.



[i]You also say that you don't like what Lana's character does to Clark, isn't that the other way around? Is Lana keeping secrets from Clark? It's what Clark does to Lana that messes things up.

My only response to that is - Clark is supposed to be the STRONG one.

If we can agree to disagree, that's cool by me. ;)

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by myankskent

Is Lana keeping secrets from Clark? It's what Clark does to Lana that messes things up.

Is Lana keeping secrets from Clark?? This is a trick question right? ;)

[myownwoman]

Chloe and Clark together on screen is amazing and that is what I like to see more of.

And just to add something, it seems like Annette O'Toole misses acting with John because their chemistry together was so good as well.

Definently!

I am so tired of Lana, it is time for her to go.:\

[myankskent]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
Is Lana keeping secrets from Clark?? This is a trick question right? ;)

What secrets is Lana keeping from Clark?

[BadToad]

What secrets is Lana keeping from Clark?

Well, the whole "I plunged a crystal into Genevieve Teague's heart and killed her, then let Lex cover it up for me" is a pretty big one.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by BadToad
Well, the whole "I plunged a crystal into Genevieve Teague's heart and killed her, then let Lex cover it up for me" is a pretty big one.

That has nothing to do with anything. She gave clark the stone with blood on it. Obviously Clark probably suspected something but is that lie really as big as Clark lying to lana all of her life about who he is?

[LuckyKrypto]

Didn't Clark ask Lana why there was blood on the stone? And didn't she tell him to trust her? (or something along those lines? :) )
There was a scene once, I don't remember the episode, but where Lana is in the hospital reading the paper about Jason and his mother being killed in the meteor shower and a little note from L on the paper to her. Clark comes in and she hides it from him.
What about working with Lex on the whole spaceship thing? She kept that bit of info from Clark

Let's face it, neither of them are honest with each other for different reasons. It doesn't make one more right than the other. But you can't say that Lana doesn't keep secrets from Clark.

[Batman_Beyonder]

THE B$#@$^ MUST DIE!

[shirkie]

The watch thing was very contrived, though. I mean, how did Lana even know what the watch looked like? How did she know its details to the point where she would be able to locate and purchase it among what I assume would be hundreds of watches in the city of Metropolis? Did she go to a pawn shop and say, "Excuse me, I'm looking for a watch someone ripped off of a red-headed widow's wrist during a brutal mugging"? It would have made more sense if one of Chloe's "moles" had found the watch for her (one of her moles who has "underground" connections), but even then it would have been a stretch.

As for Lana needing to go, I would love for that to happen, but the WB has spent too much time and money selling KK's face as a strong point of "Smallville." Like it or not, she is considered one of "the big three" for advertising purposes. They do NOT need to get rid of Chloe, though, because as "Tomb" showed, AM is by far the superior actress. She acted the crap out of that episode, and "Smallville" wouldn't be the same without her.
shirkie

[myankskent]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
Didn't Clark ask Lana why there was blood on the stone? And didn't she tell him to trust her? (or something along those lines? :) )
There was a scene once, I don't remember the episode, but where Lana is in the hospital reading the paper about Jason and his mother being killed in the meteor shower and a little note from L on the paper to her. Clark comes in and she hides it from him.
What about working with Lex on the whole spaceship thing? She kept that bit of info from Clark

Let's face it, neither of them are honest with each other for different reasons. It doesn't make one more right than the other. But you can't say that Lana doesn't keep secrets from Clark.

And to my recollection, Lana came clean to clark about the spaceship. When has Clark ever come clean? I'm sorry, but Clark's lies totally outweigh whatever small lies Lana has given Clark over the years. If you want to use the blood on the stone as a lie, you're entitled to, but that really has no bearing on their relationship.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by Batman_Beyonder
THE B$#@$^ MUST DIE!

I wouldn't go that far.

Lana isn't a bad character, she has just been written into a corner.


Originally posted by myankskent
And to my recollection, Lana came clean to clark about the spaceship. When has Clark ever come clean?

Too bad I can't point to Reckoning ;)

[Fly by guy]

Lana has more purpose in SV tha Lois. That is for the future. Resolve the secrets problem and Lana's role could revert back to Mortal and Hidden, but that would offend the Lexanas, Chlarkers, and Clois fans. The writers will never please us all but it would be nice if Clark could pull his head out of his butt and do something superman like instead of looking like a whipped pup.

[puddinpiester]

I am not a Lana hater. But, sadly, I must agree. She is the dark blot on the show. They killed off PA Kent who actually added a great deal of flair, believability, moral character, and substance to the show. Lana simply does not. Her character is not interesting, entertaining, or easily tolerated, at least by me. This has nothing to do with Ms. Kreuk. Clearly, the Lana character is a real difficult character to screen write for. TPTB seem to try and force her character where is does not logically or conveniently fit. Having all the guys fall for Lana is so Lame.

[Supercanuck]

Lana now reminds of Poochie the Rocking Dog on the Simpsons....

And we all know what happened to Poochie.....

;)

[myankskent]

Well I'm going to give it to the end of the season. Something tells me that there is more to come and even if Lana turns to Lex, I think it will be brief and my feeling is that Lana will eventually find out about Clark and her character will be enhanced in the future. Lana and Clark probably won't be together, but she will still be an important character.

[MBCorp]

I didn't even like Jonathan all that much but he added a hell of a lot more purpose to this show than Lana does. Jonathan helped to ground the show and his interactions with his son were important to Clark's character and development. Lana serves nothing more than being a romantic interest and has no personality or meaning beyond that. Her interactions with Clark have always served to hold him back and make him look pathetic and wimpy. TPTB now have to break Clana up, and the only thing they can think to do with the character is to throw her at poor Lex and hurt his storyline. Lana is a completely useless character and really should have been killed off in Reckoning.

[bluelila]

I have a question for the lana fans : What does her character bring to the show? How does she further the story?

I don't like lana, true. And i think it is directly linked to the bad writing of TPTB. The writers always try to find a way to include her in every episode, and most of the time in an idiotic way. Season 4 is a good example, wanting to give her a major role, the writers made her be possessed by a witch, how lame was that.

[superman_115]

That is the point I am making, The writer's throw her around just so she can be in a scene.

And last night episode proved that. Everywhere Lex was, Lana was behind him with a string attached to the waist.

It is just dull sometime to watch Lana and how they write her. And I will always say I don't like how they are using her to make Lex and Clark hate each other.

And I disagree with what one post said, If Lana left the show, the ratings wouldn't fall at all like most think.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by bluelila
I have a question for the lana fans : What does her character bring to the show? How does she further the story?

I don't like lana, true. And i think it is directly linked to the bad writing of TPTB. The writers always try to find a way to include her in every episode, and most of the time in an idiotic way. Season 4 is a good example, wanting to give her a major role, the writers made her be possessed by a witch, how lame was that.

How does any character further the story? Just because Chloe is a reporter makes her significant to the show? Just because we know that Lois is going to be the future love interest for Clark, that makes her significant to the show?

To answer your initial question, yes, Lana is the love interest for Clark and that is what her purpose was back when the show began, just as Pete was Clark's guy pal and Chloe was Clark's girl pal. I think that Lana's character over the years has been fleshed out nicely starting with the death of her parents and with Aunt Nell. I also think that it is nice to have a character in between Clark and Lex although I never wanted that to be in a romantic way which is what the show is hinting at now, however, it's only romantic on Lex's side of it. I think that a lot of the characters have reached a dead end if you want to know my honest opinion. Chloe doing the exposition has been great but it's time to move on with her and get a storyline of her own. She is Clark's shadow with this show, especially this season, and I think that she needs to have a love interest or have some storyline about her family. I think Lana needs to be told the secret and they need to give her and Clark closure so they can take her character through college successfully so she can have an interest, whether it's astronomy or not. I also think that Lois needs to be a significant character and start being who she is supposed to be. This is why I feel that Chloe gets in the way. It was nice for Chloe to do the exposition for the first 4 years but not we're getting into what should be Lois territory. In conclusion, I think all of the characters need to change in order for the show to be successful later on. I don't think you can point to any one character and say that the show is worse with them in the show. If you do, then you are probably a shipper who wants Clark to be with your favorite character.

[bluelila]

True i am a chlarker. But that's not why i am saying this.
Can you honestly say that lana storyline so far has been great? It's like the writers still haven't a clear idea of where is going her character. Every season they come up with something that often seem lame.
I am all for her knowing clark secret, at least we will pass to other things more interesting. But right now, unless her running to lex with every problems that she has and the endless barns scenes, i don't really see her has a pivotal character.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by bluelila
True i am a chlarker. But that's not why i am saying this.
Can you honestly say that lana storyline so far has been great? It's like the writers still haven't a clear idea of where is going her character. Every season they come up with something that often seem lame.
I am all for her knowing clark secret, at least we will pass to other things more interesting. But right now, unless her running to lex with every problems that she has and the endless barns scenes, i don't really see her has a pivotal character.

It's been two shows since the 100th episode. Give it time to develop. These last two shows weren't even that great. I like Chloe but I'm not going to gawk at her acting ability to justify that last night's episode was good. It was one of the weaker ones of the season. The Clark/Lana storyline was fine prior to the 100th episode and now we are in a bad spot again. Hopefully these next few episodes will make things somewhat better. We're probably going to have to wait until the end of the season or beginning of next season to really see what they have planned for these characters. For now, we're going to be sick to our stomachs with the Clark/Lana storyline, it's just the way it is. It doesn't mean that any one character is a waste, just the way they are executing the storyline is a waste.

[Dannyblue1]

I'm not a Chlarker, really. But, I will admit, seeing them together, and seeing the chemistry they have, I wouldn't hate seeing them put together romantically...in the right way.

As for Lana, think of all the storylines she's had on this show. All of them. (Finding her father. Learning kung fu. That thing with Adam. Being possessed by a witch. Her new attitude after returning from Paris. Running the Talon.) Now, of all of those storylines, how many can you honestly say were really interesting (and remained so from beginning to end), and had a satisfying resolution?

I actually think a lot of Lana's storylines started out interesting. But they always, always fizzle out.

[bluelila]

So i will have to wait for the end of the show to understand why lana storyline was just so bad? lol
No really i understand what you're saying and i don't really thing she's such a waste. I mean she IS clark first love.
But the writers have a way to push her down our throats every chance they get, it is quite annoying. If only they would restrain her appearence in episode where she could be useful. And if it was not always about clark secret.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
I'm not a Chlarker, really. But, I will admit, seeing them together, and seeing the chemistry they have, I wouldn't hate seeing them put together romantically...in the right way.

As for Lana, think of all the storylines she's had on this show. All of them. (Finding her father. Learning kung fu. That thing with Adam. Being possessed by a witch. Her new attitude after returning from Paris. Running the Talon.) Now, of all of those storylines, how many can you honestly say were really interesting (and remained so from beginning to end), and had a satisfying resolution?

I actually think a lot of Lana's storylines started out interesting. But they always, always fizzle out.

At least she had storylines. What storylines has Chloe even had on this show? She was in love with clark since day 1 but Clark doesn't love her. She worked with Lionel investigating Clark and now she knows Clark's secret. Those are her storylines. What is left with her character for the future? This is a question that I would love answered because I think people feel that there are still a tremendous amount of NEW things to do with her character that can't be done with Lana.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Well some people look at Lana's character spanning all five seasons...some like what they see, some don't.

She's got to be around, she's in the comics. Okay, that's cool. But what the SV writers are doing with that character is reproachable. They've made her the moral center of the show, the "Mary Sue" if you will, and the show is about CLARK KENT. They shoehorn her into every character's storyline and development as much as humanly possible, going so far as to say that Lex would turn EVIL and Clark would turn back TIME just to save her from dying. Please. Don't make me vomit.

Personally, I think her usefulness in the plot lines expired the middle of last season.

A lot of what I'm hearing is "Waa waa waaa, poor Lana. What has she ever done to anyone", and I just think that's ridiculous. She's not to blame for everything, but as far as the things she's directly involved and involved herself in, she should definitely be looked at hard as suspect just as much as any others involved. It's only fair.

If anyone is that biased and naive that they can't see past their undying affections for a ficitional TV character and really take a hard look at what's at the core, then I feel sorry for them.


Also, myankskent -- jumping to the conclusion that anyone who disagrees with you must be a shipper of someone other than Lana being with Clark is reaching. Not everyone who hates Lana loves Chloe. It works out that way (hi, I'm a Chlarker, that's me), but it's not enough to base an argument on. You should think about that.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Well some people look at Lana's character spanning all five seasons...some like what they see, some don't.

She's got to be around, she's in the comics. Okay, that's cool. But what the SV writers are doing with that character is reproachable. They've made her the moral center of the show, the "Mary Sue" if you will, and the show is about CLARK KENT. They shoehorn her into every character's storyline and development as much as humanly possible, going so far as to say that Lex would turn EVIL and Clark would turn back TIME just to save her from dying. Please. Don't make me vomit.

Personally, I think her usefulness in the plot lines expired the middle of last season.

A lot of what I'm hearing is "Waa waa waaa, poor Lana. What has she ever done to anyone", and I just think that's ridiculous. She's not to blame for everything, but as far as the things she's directly involved and involved herself in, she should definitely be looked at hard as suspect just as much as any others involved. It's only fair.

If anyone is that biased and naive that they can't see past their undying affections for a ficitional TV character and really take a hard look at what's at the core, then I feel sorry for them.


Also, myankskent -- jumping to the conclusion that anyone who disagrees with you must be a shipper of someone other than Lana being with Clark is reaching. Not everyone who hates Lana loves Chloe. It works out that way (hi, I'm a Chlarker, that's me), but it's not enough to base an argument on. You should think about that.

Everyone is to blame at one point or another. How about when Chloe investigated Clark behind his back. Is that forgiveable? Does that not matter to her character anymore? I think they need to revamp all of the characters and most importantly, aside from this shipper nonsense, they need to get Clark thinking more about becoming superman and less about Lana, Chloe, and Lois. If they don't do this, the whole show will just keep repeating things over and over again.


Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ

Also, myankskent -- jumping to the conclusion that anyone who disagrees with you must be a shipper of someone other than Lana being with Clark is reaching. Not everyone who hates Lana loves Chloe. It works out that way (hi, I'm a Chlarker, that's me), but it's not enough to base an argument on. You should think about that.

That's funny, seeing as how everyone who is making comments about Lana has Chloe icons or lois icons. hmmm...yeah I think I'm right in that assessment.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by myankskent
At least she had storylines.

So, it's quantity over quality. It doesn't matter that her storylines were mostly unsatisfactory storylines, as long as she's had more?


What storylines has Chloe even had on this show? She was in love with clark since day 1 but Clark doesn't love her.

And...?

I actually like the way that's been resolved. Yes, Chloe had feelings for Clark. They caused her to do some silly things, and act in immature ways. But, even though she still may have feelings for Clark, she's grown enough to handle them in a much more mature fashion than in the past.

So, the way Chloe has dealt with her feelings over the years has really shown how her character has grown and developed.


She worked with Lionel investigating Clark

Actually, she didn't "work with Lionel to investigate Clark", which makes it sound like they were creeping around Smallville together at all hours of the night. But, as others will point out, she agreed to work for Lionel, almost immediately changed her mind, couldn't get out from under his thumb, and never told him anything he didn't already know about Clark despite his many threats, even though she was visibly terrified of the man. She made a mistake, and paid pretty big for it.

And that lead to a Chloe storyline you didn't mention, her working with Lex to take Lionel down, which is probably the best seasonal arc the show has done so far.


and now she knows Clark's secret.

And this storyline has been one of the highlights of the season.


Those are her storylines. What is left with her character for the future?

Plenty. That's what makes Chloe interesting. You can think of so many possibilities for the character, and a lot of them don't even involve Clark.

[SnarkMasterJ]

myankskent - I'll agree that Clark should focus on being Superman rather than being encumbered by superfluous relationships. But no man is an island, and cutting yourself off from those you know and love doesn't speak of strength, but weakness.

And you're not right in your assessment. Dannyblue1, MBCorp and Supercanuck are only three examples of posters who have yet to agree with you.

[Watching Smallville]

Sorry, but lately I'm loving the Lana stuff. I couldn't stand the Reckoning time travel device, but, what I did like was that Lana left JK's party to go see Lex -- both times! What was that? It was great TV. Why on earth would she leave? Because she's so confused. She apparently can't tell the difference between Lex and Clark. And given what I read on these boards about Lex and Clark, she's not alone in thinking Clark is bad and Lex is good.

Then in Vengeance, she goes to find Clark's watch. What a huge effort that must have been. She can't let go of him. She's as obsessed with Clark as he is with her, but he's beginning to see her flaws. And I like that dynamic. For so long, it's been: Clark is obsessed with Lana, Lana focuses on Clark's flaws. Now it seems, Lana is obsessed with Clark, Clark is beginning to see Lana's flaws.

It was even more pronounced in Tomb. She tells him she loves him with all her heart. He asks her why she turned to Lex. It's what I've been waiting to see, finally.

And now Lana, the truth lover, is beginning to lean on Lex, the liar. Like I said before, it's wonderfully twisted. And I want to see where they go with this. It's fun. :cool:

[Kreukie]

I would love to see this series without Lana/Kristin.

I've been dreaming for that for two seasons now!

I would love to see Kristin do a Jessica Biel and leave the series to force on bigger things. Then return for little cameos every now and then.

That's a dream that Smallville can't afford though. :(

Five seasons in, Lana episodes have yet to do horrible in the ratings!

Five seasons in and the media care more about talking about Kristin than Allison and Michael.

Five seasons in TheWB still use Lana/Kristin as the face of the network over again everyone else, but Clark/Tom.

But one day Lana/Kristin will be written out. One day...

[Polomontana]

Let me explain chemistry. Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks had chemistry in You've Got Mail, but she didn't have chemistry with Russel Crowe in Proof of Life. See, Clark and Chloe have chemistry and the producers know it, that's why they spend so much time together in the Daily Planet. Lex and Lionel have chemistry when they face off and Lionel and Martha even have chemistry in their few scenes together. Alot of it has to do with the writing, but the actors have to add something extra for the chemistry to work.

Lana and Lex are characters that don't mix well and that's why the chemistry doesn't work. It's Clark and Lana all over again. Lana goes to Lex for help and Lex says you can always depend on me, BORING!!!!!

[clois1938]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Sorry, but lately I'm loving the Lana stuff. I couldn't stand the Reckoning time travel device, but, what I did like was that Lana left JK's party to go see Lex -- both times! What was that? It was great TV. Why on earth would she leave? Because she's so confused. She apparently can't tell the difference between Lex and Clark. And given what I read on these boards about Lex and Clark, she's not alone in thinking Clark is bad and Lex is good.

Then in Vengeance, she goes to find Clark's watch. What a huge effort that must have been. She can't let go of him. She's as obsessed with Clark as he is with her, but he's beginning to see her flaws. And I like that dynamic. For so long, it's been: Clark is obsessed with Lana, Lana focuses on Clark's flaws. Now it seems, Lana is obsessed with Clark, Clark is beginning to see Lana's flaws.

It was even more pronounced in Tomb. She tells him she loves him with all her heart. He asks her why she turned to Lex. It's what I've been waiting to see, finally.

And now Lana, the truth lover, is beginning to lean on Lex, the liar. Like I said before, it's wonderfully twisted. And I want to see where they go with this. It's fun. :cool:
*raises hand* I too find, watching Lana crash and burn oddly entertaining. :lol:

[Timester]

Al Miles: "We created Lana Lang"

Nuff said. :\

[MyOwnSuperhero]

I've said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating. Lana Lang, unlike the other characters in Smallville, has never really been written as a character. Instead, she has been used solely as a plot device. AlMiles needed a 'love interest' for Clark, someone to play Clark's high school crush, and rather than fleshing her out substantially as a character, they pretty much left it at that. So they found someone with an unnaturally pretty face, slapped the name Lana on her, and went right ahead. What things they have done to provide some depth for the character have been effectively ignored or undone, to the point that she's still a poorly developped character 102 episodes later.

Now, this really wouldn't be an issue if she were a secondary character, like Sherriff Adams or even one as substantial as Pete. However, even though they have never bothered to really develop her character, they insist, again and again that she is on par with Clark and Lex, that she's one of 'The Big Three'.

[shirkie]

Lana adds nothing but a pretty face to the mix... And with AM and ED and AOT in the cast, we can afford to lose the character that brings nothing else to the table.
shirkie

[Naman is 1#]

Actually no it needs another character to the show.The show lost Pete and now Pa Kent. Clark needs some male friends to hang-out with instead of marching down to the DP to hang-out with Chloe or that in/out relationship with Lana.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by lanakk1
yet another lana-haters thread. sights:( , really guys its getting tiring. TPTB smart. If lana go, so will the ratings. end of discussion.

PUHLEESE! CRY ME A RIVER!! HERE I AM THROWING MY GUTS UP!!

[Timester]

Originally posted by lanakk1
yet another lana-haters thread. sights:( , really guys its getting tiring. TPTB smart. If lana go, so will the ratings. end of discussion.

OK, explain to me why we are "Lana-haters"? Why?

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
OK, explain to me why we are "Lana-haters"? Why?

Because you are all ripping on Lana for going to Lex and saying that Clark stood by Chloe and was a good friend to her. Well something that we all missed was the fact that Clark broke her out of the hospital so he could save his own a$$. Once the doctor said that Chloe's behavior was probably caused by keeping a secret and that they would find out what it is, he got her out of there more for himself. I totally forgot about it, but someone else brought it up in another thread. An excellent point I think.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
Because you are all ripping on Lana for going to Lex and saying that Clark stood by Chloe and was a good friend to her. Well something that we all missed was the fact that Clark broke her out of the hospital so he could save his own a$$. Once the doctor said that Chloe's behavior was probably caused by keeping a secret and that they would find out what it is, he got her out of there more for himself. I totally forgot about it, but someone else brought it up in another thread. An excellent point I think.

Not good enough for me. Why? Last time I checked Lana was a fictional character. Now, if you tell us that we are "Hating" or "ripping off" the way AlMiles' write Lana Lang, now that's a different thing. Because, at the end, that what Lana is, a piece of writing.

So, I ask again, why are we "Lana-haters"?

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
Not good enough for me. Why? Last time I checked Lana was a fictional character. Now, if you tell us that we are "Hating" or "ripping off" the way AlMiles' write Lana Lang, now that's a different thing. Because, at the end, that what Lana is, a piece of writing.

So, I ask again, why are we "Lana-haters"?

If you hate Lana's character, then you are a Lana-hater. If you still like her on the show, then you are not a lana-hater. It's that simple.

[Happy Random]

Originally posted by myankskent
Because you are all ripping on Lana for going to Lex and saying that Clark stood by Chloe and was a good friend to her. Well something that we all missed was the fact that Clark broke her out of the hospital so he could save his own a$$. Once the doctor said that Chloe's behavior was probably caused by keeping a secret and that they would find out what it is, he got her out of there more for himself. I totally forgot about it, but someone else brought it up in another thread. An excellent point I think.

Ya know, just because we disagree with Lana's actions this episode does NOT mean that we are Lana haters. I actually like her character, I just didn't agree with the way that she ran to Lex rather than Clark, but that is topic for another thread. :) Also, I for one am getting a little tired of this Clana business since Lois is here on the show. And, as my avatar shows, I am a big time Clois shipper. :D

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
If you hate Lana's character, then you are a Lana-hater. If you still like her on the show, then you are not a lana-hater. It's that simple.

You fail to see the point. No one hates Lana, she does not exist. What people don't like is the way they write her. That's called deconstruction. Trying to understand and analyze the writing.

[tec611]

Originally posted by myankskent
Because you are all ripping on Lana for going to Lex and saying that Clark stood by Chloe and was a good friend to her. Well something that we all missed was the fact that Clark broke her out of the hospital so he could save his own a$$. Once the doctor said that Chloe's behavior was probably caused by keeping a secret and that they would find out what it is, he got her out of there more for himself. I totally forgot about it, but someone else brought it up in another thread. An excellent point I think.

Clark did NOT break Chloe out of the hospital to save himself; he broke her out because his MORONIC GF wanted her sent to Belle Reeve, and he knew that was Chloe's worst fear in the world...and Clark knows all the crap that happens there. The doctor saying what Chloe did was possibly the result of having to keep a secret (which BTW I thought was WAY TO bold of a statement for a doctor to make since he hadnt even spoken to her yet!!), simply made Clark feel responsible for Chloe's condition.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
You fail to see the point. No one hates Lana, she does not exist. What people don't like is the way they write her. That's called deconstruction. Trying to understand and analyze the writing.

Well that's not how I prefer to word it. The show doesn't exist, yet there are character forums to discuss "Characters". That is what we are discussing here. If you prefer to rip TPTB then more power to you. We do enough of that on these boards as well.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well that's not how I prefer to word it. The show doesn't exist, yet there are character forums to discuss "Characters". That is what we are discussing here. If you prefer to rip TPTB then more power to you. We do enough of that on these boards as well.

And aren't characters part of writing? Because without someone writing them, they don't exist. They don't appear from thin air.

[Bumperjeep]

True.. but Lana is eye candy. :/

[tec611]

haha, the show does INDEED EXIST. if it didnt what are we sitting her moaning about? The TOWN of smallville does not exist...see the difference?

and the CHARACTER OF LANA exists, she herself does not.

and yes, if you dont like the character of Lana, then you dont like her. If you do then you do. There is nothing wrong about either!

Lana Lovers have to accept that people with bash/or talk about why they dont like Lana. If you have so much love for pinky then dont loiter in a thread that says 'Lana needs to go'...what are you expecting to find in here? Likewise goes for Lana Haters going into Clana shipper threads. Lets keep it in perspective

[myankskent]

Originally posted by tec611
Clark did NOT break Chloe out of the hospital to save himself; he broke her out because his MORONIC GF wanted her sent to Belle Reeve, and he knew that was Chloe's worst fear in the world...and Clark knows all the crap that happens there. The doctor saying what Chloe did was possibly the result of having to keep a secret (which BTW I thought was WAY TO bold of a statement for a doctor to make since he hadnt even spoken to her yet!!), simply made Clark feel responsible for Chloe's condition.

That's where you're actually wrong, and that's ok because we all were. Go back and watch the scene when Chloe is in the hospital and Lex comes by and tells Clark that he is going to take her to Belle Reve. Lex tells Clark that he knows that Chloe is a close friend who Clark "trusts" and that he will take good care of her. Combine that with what the doctor said about the keeping a secret idea of Chloe's condition and that is why Clark broke her out of their. It wasn't that he thought Chloe was ok, it was to get her out of there so Lex wouldn't uncover the secret.

[Happy Random]

Originally posted by tec611
Clark did NOT break Chloe out of the hospital to save himself; he broke her out because his MORONIC GF wanted her sent to Belle Reeve, and he knew that was Chloe's worst fear in the world...and Clark knows all the crap that happens there. The doctor saying what Chloe did was possibly the result of having to keep a secret (which BTW I thought was WAY TO bold of a statement for a doctor to make since he hadnt even spoken to her yet!!), simply made Clark feel responsible for Chloe's condition.

Nicely put tec611. :)
Hey, we share avatars! DANCE MARTHA DANCE!!! :D

[Timester]

Originally posted by tec611
Lana Lovers have to accept that people with bash/or talk about why they dont like Lana. If you have so much love for pinky then dont loiter in a thread that says 'Lana needs to go'...what are you expecting to find in here? Likewise goes for Lana Haters going into Clana shipper threads. Lets keep it in perspective

Actually, K-Site is very strick on the "no camp threads" rule. Every thread is open to every opinion, good or bad.

[Liriel]

If you hate Lana's character, then you are a Lana-hater. If you still like her on the show, then you are not a lana-hater. It's that simple.


I don't hate her. I certainly don't like her. But she's not enough of a character to inspire hatred in me. Just annoyance and irritation. I will defend her when I believe she is being unfairly attacked and I will call her on it when I think she's being the bad one.

I think she contributes almost nothing to the show. At least nothing I like. She (and the Clana relationship) are a source of extremely repetitive and boring angst. I despise the idea of any romantic relationship being the cause of Lex and Clark being enemies (I think their general natures should make them that). She's shoe-horned in when she's unnecessary - early this season when that wasn't happening and when she was pursuing something herself instead of basically following someone else with it was the best she's ever been to me.

I don't want her dead. I just want her to leave the series, after a mutual and not messy break-up with Clark. Soon.

I know it won't happen, but that doesn't keep me from wanting it.

[tec611]

Originally posted by myankskent
That's where you're actually wrong, and that's ok because we all were. Go back and watch the scene when Chloe is in the hospital and Lex comes by and tells Clark that he is going to take her to Belle Reve. Lex tells Clark that he knows that Chloe is a close friend who Clark "trusts" and that he will take good care of her. Combine that with what the doctor said about the keeping a secret idea of Chloe's condition and that is why Clark broke her out of their. It wasn't that he though Chloe was ok, it was to get her out of there so Lex wouldn't uncover the secret.

I dont have to re-watch the episode, I have seen it enough already, and what you are describing as what happened in the scene proves my point as much as yours. In fact, Lex saying clark 'trusts' her is more proof that he didnt break her out because of the secret...because he trusted her not to tell. I didnt say he broke her out because he thought she was 'okay', I actually think Clark was quite skeptical about her condition. I think his reasons for breaking her out were different than yours. this is a matter of PERSPECTIVE, not fact.


Originally posted by Timester
Actually, K-Site is very strick on the "no camp threads" rule. Every thread is open to every opinion, good or bad.

never said the thread wasnt open to all opinions, but people who have differing opinions on certain characters need to step back and not yell out 'HATER!' 'LOVER!' like they are being condemned. people still need to be aware of what thread they are in and not take up arms when everyone doesnt love or hate a certain character like they do. thats all I was saying

[Timester]

Originally posted by Liriel
I don't hate her. I certainly don't like her. But she's not enough of a character to inspire hatred in me. Just annoyance and irritation. I will defend her when I believe she is being unfairly attacked and I will call her on it when I think she's being the bad one.

People might not believe this, but I did defended Lana before, like in "Pariah", when she left the Talon because of Alicia.

[Happy Random]

Originally posted by myankskent
That's where you're actually wrong, and that's ok because we all were. Go back and watch the scene when Chloe is in the hospital and Lex comes by and tells Clark that he is going to take her to Belle Reve. Lex tells Clark that he knows that Chloe is a close friend who Clark "trusts" and that he will take good care of her. Combine that with what the doctor said about the keeping a secret idea of Chloe's condition and that is why Clark broke her out of their. It wasn't that he thought Chloe was ok, it was to get her out of there so Lex wouldn't uncover the secret.

I find it hard to believe that Clark moved Chloe just to protect his secret. Clark isn't selfish like that. Let's look back on episode 100. Clark went back in time to help Lana, so that she would live, not to protect his secret from Lex. He didn't tell her about it for the same reason. Let's remeber that while he may be fairly stupid sometimes, he is still going to grow up to be Superman, and Superman always puts others first.

[tec611]

Originally posted by Timester
People might not believe this, but I did defended Lana before, like in "Pariah", when she left the Talon because of Alicia.

ya I agree, that was justified

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Happy Random
I find it hard to believe that Clark moved Chloe just to protect his secret. Clark isn't selfish like that. Let's look back on episode 100. Clark went back in time to help Lana, so that she would live, not to protect his secret from Lex. He didn't tell her about it for the same reason. Let's remeber that while he may be fairly stupid sometimes, he is still going to grow up to be Superman, and Superman always puts others first.

Clark asked Lois when she questioned why he broke Chloe out of the hospital if she wanted lex and the doctors getting inside of Chloe's head. Now I don't know about you, but that is a subtle way of saying that I don't want them getting inside her head to uncover his secret. I'll admit that you have to read into it a little, but the clues are there.

[Happy Random]

Originally posted by myankskent
Clark asked Lois when she questioned why he broke Chloe out of the hospital if she wanted lex and the doctors getting inside of Chloe's head. Now I don't know about you, but that is a subtle way of saying that I don't want them getting inside her head to uncover his secret. I'll admit that you have to read into it a little, but the clues are there.

And also, if Lex digs into her brain like that, well, lets just say that that is a major ingrediant in fried brain. That is what Chloe is most afraid of, and Clark knows it. While I agree that he probably wanted to protect his secret, I really believe that that was not the first thing on his mind when he busted Chloe out.

[tec611]

Originally posted by myankskent
Clark asked Lois when she questioned why he broke Chloe out of the hospital if she wanted lex and the doctors getting inside of Chloe's head. Now I don't know about you, but that is a subtle way of saying that I don't want them getting inside her head to uncover his secret. I'll admit that you have to read into it a little, but the clues are there.

or you can just read it like it says and see that he really just didnt want Chloe being treated like a mental person when nobody knows what really happened yet.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Happy Random
And also, if Lex digs into her brain like that, well, lets just say that that is a major ingrediant in fried brain. That is what Chloe is most afraid of, and Clark knows it. While I agree that he probably wanted to protect his secret, I really believe that that was not the first thing on his mind when he busted Chloe out.

It's debatable, I'll give you that. I'd be interested to see what other people feel about it because it really hasn't been talked about in the other threads.

[Happy Random]

There actually is one, it is called 'Why would Lex commit Chloe to Belle Reeve?' or something like that, so check it out if you want. :)

[MetroGirl06]

Yes, Lana must get lost! I dont feel like explaining, I'm too lazy...

[Lana_Lang #1]

Stay Lana. Stay.

[shirkie]

Well, it's nice that you want Lana to stay, Lana Lang #1, but can you say WHY rather than just "Stay"? What is she adding to the show at this point in time that isn't being handled by the characters of Chloe and Lois?

Reporter stuff? Already covered. Snarky one-liners? Covered. Romance? On the way. Eye candy? Mack and Durance are definitely "yes" on this one.

At this point, Lana is superfluous, only a little pest that runs to Lex to cheese off Clark and runs to Clark to cheese off Lex. And there's some mumbling about "thecreths and lieths" in there too.

I suggest the burden be placed on those who want to keep Lana around rather on those of us who want to leave... From my viewpoint, she's not adding a heck of a whole lot to the show, and her presence is merely distracting in some cases (her completely unnecessary bit in "Tomb").
shirkie

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Happy Random
Ya know, just because we disagree with Lana's actions this episode does NOT mean that we are Lana haters. I actually like her character, I just didn't agree with the way that she ran to Lex rather than Clark, but that is topic for another thread. :) Also, I for one am getting a little tired of this Clana business since Lois is here on the show. And, as my avatar shows, I am a big time Clois shipper. :D
I'm not a Lana-hater either. I don't think I'd like Lana as a person, but I do like her as a character on the show. And I think her character is developed. Look at all the adjectives we throw at her. Whether for good or bad, everyone has a take on her character.

What Lana doesn't have is a vocation. She doesn't do anything. That doesn't mean her character isn't developed. They just don't give her anything to do to justify her existence apart from Clark and Lex. And that's -- here we go again :rolleyes: -- poor writing. They did the same thing with Pete. They gave him nothing to do. But no one ever said his character wasn't developed.

I don't like the way she runs to Lex either, but to me, it's in character, which is what makes it so interesting. We don't have to like everything she does. We don't like everything Lex does. We don't even like everything Clark does! ;) IMO, things with Lana are just starting to get interesting.

[amberdawn]

Im not a Lana hater, but I dont see a use for her character anymore either. I think her purpose on the show is practically run its course, whatever it was. I think the show could go on without her.

[Vatusia]

Originally posted by lanakk1
yet another lana-haters thread. sights:( , really guys its getting tiring. TPTB smart. If lana go, so will the ratings. end of discussion.


Lana is popular as long as she is in a happy relationship with Clark. This is because it makes the future Superman look macho and in control, since he has his personal life in order and is makin' it with a hot chick. It's the attempts to keep Lana in the story when she ISN'T involved with Clark or to do the constant angst-story that has been the off-again-on-again Clana relationship that causes ratings to drop.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by lanakk1
yet another lana-haters thread. sights:( , really guys its getting tiring. TPTB smart. If lana go, so will the ratings. end of discussion.

Exactly, and it usually seems to be Chlark fans who hate her. I wonder why. :rolleyes: (not really)


Originally posted by Lana_Lang #1
Stay Lana. Stay.

I agree. Too bad if people don't like her; she has been around for 5 seasons and is one of the big three. If people don't like that, that's just too bad. A lot of people like Lana. It's kinda like with Lois, some people don't see why the heck she's even on the show, and she gets on peoples' nerves, yet some like her.

If people don't like Lana, then too bad, but I don't want to see her go anywhere.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Exactly, and it usually seems to be Chlark fans who hate her. I wonder why. :rolleyes: (not really)



I agree. Too bad if people don't like her; she has been around for 5 seasons and is one of the big three. If people don't like that, that's just too bad. A lot of people like Lana. It's kinda like with Lois, some people don't see why the heck she's even on the show, and she gets on peoples' nerves, yet some like her.

If people don't like Lana, then too bad, but I don't want to see her go anywhere.

The thing is that this board has a lot of Chloe lovers on it. I think there are more Lana fans than Chloe fans if you were to take everyone. I just want to see this show do well and stop with all of the shipper stuff. Also, getting rid of a character is not the answer, whether it be Lois, Chloe or Lana. That will only hurt the show. The idea is to strengthen the storylines because none of the girls have strong storylines right now. I also would like it if they can get some guys on this show. I am tired of seeing the three girls and Clark, it's getting ridiculous now. Clark needs to get some guy friends and spend less time with the girls.

[shirkie]

But see, a couple of "Lana-lovers" have come on the board to complain about the "Lana-haters" and said "Yes, she should stay," but they haven't given any reasons as to WHY she should stay. I honestly would like to know why Lana should stay... And I haven't heard that yet.
shirkie

[SamBanksJLA]

I would justy like to say a big THANK YOU to the moderator who told me that I couldn't talk about how much I was against 'Chlark'. But I guess a 'Lana needs to go' thread is okay. All I was doing was voicing my reasons why a 'Chlark' relationship won't work, and why it would be bad for the show. I evened prefaced the damn thing with I'm not a Chloe Hater!

I figured that particular mod was a big 'Chlarker', especiall after I replied and tried to explain myself and I was told not to reply to the messages anymore. That's pretty fair. I can get private messages telling me not to post why I don't think that 'Chlark' would work, but I can't have a chance to explain myself.
Great JOB!

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by shirkie
But see, a couple of "Lana-lovers" have come on the board to complain about the "Lana-haters" and said "Yes, she should stay," but they haven't given any reasons as to WHY she should stay. I honestly would like to know why Lana should stay... And I haven't heard that yet.
shirkie

she's like really hot! :p

that's all i could come up with.


shirkie: stop wishing bad things upon me :)

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by shirkie
But see, a couple of "Lana-lovers" have come on the board to complain about the "Lana-haters" and said "Yes, she should stay," but they haven't given any reasons as to WHY she should stay. I honestly would like to know why Lana should stay... And I haven't heard that yet.
shirkie
My 2 cents. Lana "should stay" (honestly, to me this is like asking why Phoebe "should stay" on Friends) because she has been involved all along in some central issues of Smallville, and those issues haven't been resolved yet. Clark's journey to manhood is all tied up with Lana, and he's just beginning to look at her with a more mature set of eyes. Let's not cut that short.

I'm also beginning to think the whole "will Lana accept an alien" theme is tied up with whether people in general will accept an alien and whether Clark can, as he said, find a way not to hide who he is. That question isn't answered yet, either.

I also think Lana's tied up in why Clark chooses Lois in the long run. I'd like to see that play out.

I'll admit, Lana's role isn't very clear to me in terms of what she's supposed to represent in this story. But she's tied up in a lot of issues that are pretty clear. That's why I'm in no hurry to see her leave.

[SamBanksJLA]

I don't really think that anyone should really hate any character on the show. I don't hate Chloe. But I don't think that Chloe and Clark should be a couple. It wouldn't be good for the show. I don't think that Lana and Clark should be a couple either. The whole dynamic of the show would be ruined if they actually hooked up and were a happy little couple.

I think that if they were to either kill off Chloe or Lana, then Chloe would be the logical choice. I actually think that Chloe will be killed off before the series ends. As well as Lionel. They are the two expendable characters. Two people that will have absolutly nothing to do with Clark in the Superman years, so they would be the logical choices if they wanted to kill someone off. I'm really suprised that Lionel has lasted this long. I am glad that he has though.
I know all the Chloe people don't want to hear this, but she will probably be killed off near the end of the series.

My thought is that her death is what will drive Lois and Clark into wanting to be serious reporters.

[BoSoxJim]

[posted this in the wrong thread earlier]

how do i word this???

i think people are having trouble separating KK from her character LL.

just because one is critical of how her character is mishandled on the show does not mean we are being critical of KK.

i think KK does a very good job for the most part (as does everyone on the show, except aquaman).

to be honest, my main reason for watching smallville is to see the journey clark takes in becoming superman. secondary is seeing how lex becomes the evil criminal mastermind.

everything else is not as important.

however, i expect the writers to be consistent with how they portray their characters, not leave a half dozen plotholes per episode and keep the most basic of continuity from episode to episode (not really that hard).

with the case of lana, if someone can actually make the case of how the writers have portrayed her in a positive light, i'm listening.

if you're just a huge KK fan, then i'm sorry. she would be best suited on her own show.

[LuckyKrypto]

I don't think Lana needs to go. But her character definitly needs something more to do than just what she's been doing for the past season.
I like Lana's character in Smallville, but at times it's like watching a very slow roller coaster ride :\
I had always hoped that she would be like Chloe in Clarks life. I kind of thought of her like a young Lois so to speak for Smallville. But in this show I can't figure out what they are doing with her. :confused:
I think what BoSoxJim said above about people seperating Lana from KK is true to some extent. (I know I wonder if that isn't true in reverse for the writers) They really like Kristin but can't seem to get Lana right (IMO)
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.

[ProudPenny]

This thread was closed today. I wrote up a lengthy explanation why. That was all lost in the site crash and data loss, so I'll just say:

- Restart this in the Lana forum.

- Title it something neutral. We don't allow "love" or "hate" or "pro" or "anti" threads on this site. People of all persuasions and opinions should feel included in your thread title, i.e., "Should the show keep Lana on?" vs "Lana needs to die."

- The first person in the new thread to attempt to psychoanalyze why people who disagree with them are totally neurotic, pathological, diagnosible, confused, delusional, etc. will get banned. We are here to talk about the show, NOT each other.