Clark didn't say "I love you too."

[Toppa]

When Lana told him she loved him, why is it that he didn't say "I love you too?" I'll be glad if he's finally getting over her. That story line has become redundant.

[superspider02]

yea true the i love u i love u stuff been going on to dam long. Hopefully they are totally over now.

[amberdawn]

I noticed he didnt say it too.

[Batman_Beyonder]

He has realised lana is a chump and is getting with lex....DAMN HER Lol.

[BoSoxJim]

best part of the whole episode.

although JK is rolling over in his grave right now. "I died for this!!!"

[Toppa]

Originally posted by BoSoxJim
best part of the whole episode.

although JK is rolling over in his grave right now. "I died for this!!!"

LOL Don't make fun of the dead!!


However, I do think it was poignant that he didn't say it back to her. He didn't even try to go to her and reach out- he just stood there and let her talk.

[abarsami]

Clark knows it's done. It's about time if you ask me.

[F-Stop Blues]

I think he's realizing that its just never going to work. I hope he just accepts it soon so they both can move on. I mean their relationship is the mopiest angstiest teenage relationship in the history of television. I hope she gets with Lex, at least she might be happy for a little before she realizes that he's a psychopath.

[Kreukie]

You people need to read spoilers.

[amberdawn]

A lot of us in here do read spoilers. They didnt say anything about Lana and Clark getting back together.

[Yuui]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I think he's realizing that its just never going to work. I hope he just accepts it soon so they both can move on. I mean their relationship is the mopiest angstiest teenage relationship in the history of television. I hope she gets with Lex, at least she might be happy for a little before she realizes that he's a psychopath.

Yes, the relationship between Clark and Lana is even worse than Ross and Rachel of Friends, in terms of being sustained for far too long, and the amount of melodrama.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by amberdawn
A lot of us in here do read spoilers. They didnt say anything about Lana and Clark getting back together.

Clana are still together after this episode.

[asparks]

Maybe some of us don't want to read the spoilers, ever thought about that?

[amberdawn]

Ok, whatever.:rolleyes:

Spoilers are not allowed in here btw.

[Kreukie]

It's not a spoiler.

they're together in this episode. They didn't break up in this episode.

The logical thing to believe is, they're still together after this episode.

Clark didn't say "I love you" and ya'll are running around like Clark over Lana.

[Toppa]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Clana are still together after this episode.

Yeah...and what?


Originally posted by Kreukie
It's not a spoiler.

they're together in this episode. They didn't break up in this episode.

The logical thing to believe is, they're still together after this episode.

Clark didn't say "I love you" and ya'll are running around like Clark over Lana.

Is that what the thread was initially about?

[amberdawn]

Kreukie- They are on a break, which means they are not together as of right now. At least thats what I was made to believe.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Toppa
Yeah...and what?



Is that what the thread was initially about?

You said Clark getting over Lana because he didn't say "I love you" back.

Because I guess to you that means he totally over her.

[Toppa]

Originally posted by Kreukie
You said Clark getting over Lana because he didn't say "I love you" back.

Because I guess to you that means he totally over her.

This is what I said:


Originally posted by Toppa
When Lana told him she loved him, why is it that he didn't say "I love you too?" I'll be glad if he's finally getting over her. That story line has become redundant.

"I'll be glad if he's finally getting over her."

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by Kreukie
It's not a spoiler.

they're together in this episode. They didn't break up in this episode.

The logical thing to believe is, they're still together after this episode.

Clark didn't say "I love you" and ya'll are running around like Clark over Lana.

dude, if that looked or felt like a conversation between two people that were still a couple then .....

and clana is dead. rejoice the beginning of "Pinky and the Brain"!

[Billy Jor-El]

Mongo no want to read spoilers...Mongo only pawn in game of life.

Really, it IS getting a bit much, but although Clark did not say "I love you, too," that doesn't mean he doesn't love her. Of course he does, he's been on a one track mission since Day One, it's just now we're seeing the fallout from his honest relationship with her. His steel eyed gaze (and dang if he didn't look like Chris Reeve there) was awesome as it was cold, he has nothing he will say to her, not that there isn't something he could say. Lana walked out, as she should. I've never know of any woman who would keep coming back after all that's happened between them; and yes, indeed, Clark, despite keeping Lana at more than arm's length, is more jealous than ever over her spending one moment in the company of Lex....

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by BoSoxJim
and clana is dead.

I'll believe it when it actually happens.

Anti-Clana fans have been praising those words since season one.

:rotfl:

Season one - Clana will never happen, AlMiles said so.

Season two - Clana will never happen, AlMiles said so.

Season three - Clana is dead now that Clark broke it off.

Season four - Clana died in season three it'll never coming back, AlMiles said so in Comic Con.

Season five - Clana dead, for real this time, really, I swear, I read Al's TV Guide interview!!!

[Toppa]

Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
Mongo no want to read spoilers...Mongo only pawn in game of life.

Really, it IS getting a bit much, but although Clark did not say "I love you, too," that doesn't mean he doesn't love her. Of course he does, he's been on a one track mission since Day One, it's just now we're seeing the fallout from his honest relationship with her. His steel eyed gaze (and dang if he didn't look like Chris Reeve there) was awesome as it was cold, he has nothing he will say to her, not that there isn't something he could say. Lana walked out, as she should. I've never know of any woman who would keep coming back after all that's happened between them; and yes, indeed, Clark, despite keeping Lana at more than arm's length, is more jealous than ever over her spending one moment in the company of Lex....

He's never acted as if he were very jealous in my opinion.

[amberdawn]

We are supposed to see why it will not work out between them in the future this season, or did you forget that?

[lexs&os]

I rewatched this scene many times and Lana didn't seem to be expecting an "I love you" back. There will always be a special pair of blue jeans in their hearts for one another and Lana knows at this point in time, Clark probably won't say anything more than what needs to be said.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by amberdawn
We are supposed to see why it will not work out between them in the future this season, or did you forget that?

Mmmhmmm, just like how Clana wasn't meant to not happen in season four at all. ;)

La AlMiles from Comic Con.

[amberdawn]

Yes, Al and Miles said that. Many of us here read it.

Clana really didnt officially happen until season five IMO.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by amberdawn
Yes, Al and Miles said that. Many of us here read it.

So like I said, I'll believe Clana dead until I actually see it's dead.

And when someone said something dead, it's dead... it doesn't come back to life and it doesn't get played around with.

Clana been alive for every season thus far.

[amberdawn]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Clana been alive for every season thus far.

:lol:

[tec611]

they never broke up, thats why in Reckoning Lana said 'I need a break' and NOT 'this is over'

trust me im not a clana shipper, but being on a break means your still technically together but spending time apart. And since his father died hours after that, everything was kinda put aside, and she pulled a Whitney with him.

from what I understand they are going to keep being on this break of theirs until they really break it off sometime in one of the episodes in April

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by Kreukie
So like I said, I'll believe Clana dead until I actually see it's dead.

And when someone said something dead, it's dead... it doesn't come back to life and it doesn't get played around with.

Clana been alive for every season thus far.

I'm not a pro or against clana.

However, I am way past tired of the on again, off again for something that we all know will never last!

Will you believe it's dead when lana and lex start performing the horizontal mambo while lex is on the phone to clark giving him the play-by-play?????

I really like KK but the lana character has no purpose on this show other than sexual tension purposes.

I love you with all my heart clark but i can't wait to hop in the sack with Lex (because he's so honest).

If it weren't for looks, LL would have nothing going for her at this point.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Mmmhmmm, just like how Clana wasn't meant to not happen in season four at all. ;)

La AlMiles from Comic Con.

Personally I say they only put Clana back together to show why they don't work out in the long run.

Some speculate they only put Clana back together because they weren't allowed to do Clois.

Seeing how Al Gough seems to be all for Lexana I don't see Clana even lasting much longer.

If Clark and Lana are still a couple, they sure weren't acting like two people who've ever been a couple.

[Supercanuck]

the writers have indeed killed the wrong character.......

[amberdawn]

Originally posted by tec611
they never broke up, thats why in Reckoning Lana said 'I need a break' and NOT 'this is over'

Lana said she needed a break from their romantic relationship. In her words, "us" which meant the romantic part. To me, that means as for right now, they are not a couple.

[BadToad]

Didn't Lana say to Lex in Reckoning "Clark and I just had our last fight"? So, doesn't that sound like a break-up?

[Toppa]

Originally posted by BoSoxJim
I'm not a pro or against clana.

However, I am way past tired of the on again, off again for something that we all know will never last!

Will you believe it's dead when lana and lex start performing the horizontal mambo while lex is on the phone to clark giving him the play-by-play?????

I really like KK but the lana character has no purpose on this show other than sexual tension purposes.

I love you with all my heart clark but i can't wait to hop in the sack with Lex (because he's so honest).

If it weren't for looks, LL would have nothing going for her at this point.

I think it's extremely ironic that she "takes a break" from Clark because he keeps secrets from her but turns to Lex. Wow! Now if that isn't a slap in the face for Clark I don't know what is. :cool: I used to really like Clark and Lana being together but after Reckonning, I've washed my hands off Lana. I could understand if Clark keeping his secret from her has put her in danger before, but it hasn't. So it just comes across as if she's bytching.

[Old Juan]

Didn't Lana say to Lex in Reckoning "Clark and I just had our last fight"? So, doesn't that sound like a break-up?

What!? How dare you bring up continuity from a recent episode. Do you not understand that this is Smallville where the ground hog day effect lasts all year around?:D

[smallvillerocks45]

Usually, I root for the Clana to work; I don't like it when they argue, but today I was glad that Clark was upset with Lana. I think he had a right to be. I mean, yeah, he probably should have told her that he took Chloe out of the hospital... but he didn't take her out until after Lex told him that Lana suggested Belle Reeve...what in the world did she go to Lex for in the first place? Doesn't she know that Chloe isn't Lex's biggest fan? Doesn't she know that she (Chloe) is one of Clark's best friends? I mean...what was she thinking. It's like she always says, truth goes both ways...well, she can't expect Clark to talk if she isn't talking either. Clark may love her...but didn't have to like her at the moment. IMO

[amberdawn]

Originally posted by Old Juan
What!? How dare you bring up continuity from a recent episode. Do you not understand that this is Smallville where the ground hog day effect lasts all year around?:D
:lol:

[asparks]

What you will never hear on Smallville.


Lana: Clark, I love you with all of my heart.

Clark: YOU LIE!!!

I just want Clark to turn it on her sometime and make her feel like total crap. Lana has played the victim the entire series....

My parents died...

My boyfriend died....

My other boyfriend died...

My boy Clark died...atleast I think he did....

NOBODY LIKES ME, EVERYBODY HATES ME, SO FEEL SOME SYMPATHY FOR ME ALREADY!!!

Clark just needs to fly her a** to the moon already!

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
I mean...what was she thinking.

We pause at the moment Lana Lang has to think about something and all we hear is the sound of cricket's chirping and the smell of wood burning....and then "Gee Clark, why can't you be as honest as <insert lying homicidal maniac here>?"

[asparks]

When Lana stops to think and all goes quiet all I hear is wind rushing through a tunnel. That girl is empty.

[Toppa]

You all are very funny. :lol:


Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Usually, I root for the Clana to work; I don't like it when they argue, but today I was glad that Clark was upset with Lana. I think he had a right to be. I mean, yeah, he probably should have told her that he took Chloe out of the hospital... but he didn't take her out until after Lex told him that Lana suggested Belle Reeve...what in the world did she go to Lex for in the first place? Doesn't she know that Chloe isn't Lex's biggest fan? Doesn't she know that she (Chloe) is one of Clark's best friends? I mean...what was she thinking. It's like she always says, truth goes both ways...well, she can't expect Clark to talk if she isn't talking either. Clark may love her...but didn't have to like her at the moment. IMO

Hear! Hear!

[Netmaster]

Originally posted by asparks
What you will never hear on Smallville.


Lana: Clark, I love you with all of my heart.

Clark: YOU LIE!!!

I just want Clark to turn it on her sometime and make her feel like total crap. Lana has played the victim the entire series....

My parents died...

My boyfriend died....

My other boyfriend died...

My boy Clark died...atleast I think he did....

NOBODY LIKES ME, EVERYBODY HATES ME, SO FEEL SOME SYMPATHY FOR ME ALREADY!!!

Clark just needs to fly her a** to the moon already!

Sounds great to me.

Just like good ol Ralph Kramden of The Honeymooners (maybe before your time):

"One of these days . . . One of these days! Bang Zooom!:lol:

[smallville_fetish]

I think we're all over analyzing this whole Clana conversation. Because if Clark did say ‘I love you too’ everyone would assume they're back together (which they aren’t, but that doesn't dismiss the whole Clana relationship because when was it ever dismiss? ) And we'd get more complaints about another Clana reset where they're supposedly happy until Clark starts lying and Lana starts getting mad and yes, you know the deal.

Obviously, Clark still loves Lana, and we don't need him to say it to confirm it. Just because Clark is going through some things, doesn't mean he's completely neglected his feelings nor gotten over Lana, that is not something that can be dismissed in 1-2 episodes, no matter what happened within that time. As of right now, a relationship is the last thing Clark needs. I'm glad that they're not pressing on this Clana issue because when they do, it's over done. It's hard to say what will really happen from now on, we don't know how long Lana will wait, how much time Clark needs, but whatever they're both going through will really test out the Clana relationship and how deep their feelings really are for each other.. they are definitely going through rough times but this will not be the last of Clana, not the friendship part at least.

[constancelight]

Originally posted by Toppa
I'll be glad if he's finally getting over her. That story line has become redundant.

Word. The story has been hashed and re-hashed to smithereens. They needs to move on.

[Cstmstyle]

Just to chime in here. Lana character is exactlly like my ex-girlfriend as most people on here can relate that they know someone just like her character. She will never get it, why becuase she can't look past herself. Its sad that the writers have way to many gaps regarding who she really is inside or maybe I just have forgot since its been mashed back and forth so much I find it hard to read her actions anymore. Clark did the right thing by not saying anything which if you look at him you can tell he wanted to say it back but knew and understood what could happen to lana. Clark loves her with all his heart and to prove that he is keeping her in the dark to save her life. I have much sympathy for clark to have to live like that. And to refrence spiderman its the exact same scenerio between peter parker and mary jane. His secret is a secret becuase of his love not becuase he thinks it wouldn't work. the biggest Cop-out is if the writers put lana with Lex that just turns her into the girl that everyone on the show has been with. I know there are so many people hoping lana and lex hook up for whatever reason. I still find myself hoping lana gets her head out of her ass and grows as a person without a guy being her crutch of happiness. She really needs to grow up but being with lex is really the wrong move.

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I think he's realizing that its just never going to work. I hope he just accepts it soon so they both can move on. I mean their relationship is the mopiest angstiest teenage relationship in the history of television. I hope she gets with Lex, at least she might be happy for a little before she realizes that he's a psychopath.

Hear! Hear!:D :D :D


Originally posted by Supercanuck
the writers have indeed killed the wrong character.......

I knew it was too good to be true that tptb would ever do something that took some writing courage and kill off lana. Really, for Clana fans knowing that Clark and Lana never get together in the end it would have been a good way for the whole Clark and Lana dog and pony show to end.

[No-El]

Originally posted by constancelight
Word. The story has been hashed and re-hashed to smithereens. They needs to move on.


As Chloe said in the second time-line to Clark in the Daily Planet scene in 'Reckoning':

Done, Done. Or the perpetual Clark and Lana Rollercoaster Done?? :lol:

$%@%@&%##^#*%#$@@*%@@%$:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Toppa]

Originally posted by No-El
As Chloe said in the second time-line to Clark in the Daily Planet scene in 'Reckoning':

Done, Done. Or the perpetual Clark and Lana Rollercoaster Done?? :lol:

$%@%@&%##^#*%#$@@*%@@%$:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:D

[KRAM-el]

If he had responded in kind, I think I would have hurled right there at my seat on the couch (as it was the scene nauseated me). Thank God for his 'non-response' or I'd be awaitng the carpet cleaners right now... :\

[SmallvilleMan]

Him not saying he loves her, doesn't mean he doesn't. If you think Clark is over and still not in love with her, then i must say you've missed 4 1/2 years of smallville imo. He loves her deeply, but he can't say anything, because he knows why they're having trouble and why they're falling a part.

[lanakk1]

clark doesnt need to say i love you in that situation. The point of that convo was that they cant talk to each other anymore. just because lana said "i love you with my whole heart" clark has to say i love you back. If he said i love you right back, the scene would of been awkard. and lana already knows clark love her. and how can you say clark is over lana so soon? we just saw how much he loved her in episode100. 2episode later you think hes over her? lets be realistic.

[No-El]

Originally posted by KRAM-el
If he had responded in kind, I think I would have hurled right there at my seat on the couch (as it was the scene nauseated me). Thank God for his 'non-response' or I'd be awaitng the carpet cleaners right now... :\


Funny! Absolutely Hilarious!!!

Yep! No doubt, me as well!

But, we know it is DONE, despite their feelings!

For if Clark told Lana AGAIN, with the LEX FACTOR still at large...well....you know.....Here we go again Jor-El!!!!!!

NO SECOND CHANCE! DECIDE CAREFULLY!! :lol:

[Daphne]

Originally posted by BoSoxJim
best part of the whole episode.

although JK is rolling over in his grave right now. "I died for this!!!"

I thought that for a minute too. :)

[loislane123]

Originally posted by lanakk1
2episode later you think hes over her? lets be realistic.

Yes, realistic would be that Clark's dad dies and two episodes later they barely mention him. That kind of realistic right?

He's got to get over her at some point right? Why couldn't that be the first step?

[SmallvilleMan]

How is what happen in this episode a first step to that? So what if he didn't say "I love you too" back. Lana didn't say anything, when Clark told her she was the only girl he ever loved. They don't have to say anything to know they love each, because they know it.

[UpandAtom]

Originally posted by BadToad
Didn't Lana say to Lex in Reckoning "Clark and I just had our last fight"? So, doesn't that sound like a break-up?

Had Jonathan not died, Lana would've broken up with Clark. She's probably just deciding to stay with him now out of sympathy, the same way she stayed with Whitney after his father died.

[velocity]

the only way their relationship is gonna work now is if he tells her.
But ofcourse it will be draged all the way to next season.
And i just think that by waiting that long, they will ruin it.

[HalJordan4184]

I think what's really happening, is Clark is starting to understand relationships better, and why he and Lana won't work out. hence his question why didn't you come to me, and we work it out together.

He's starting to realize, maybe he doesn't love Lana. And honestly, he doesn't. he's in love with the image of Lana he's had in his head since he was seven. Name one person who found true love at seven, and knew it. Clark sure as heck didn't. I think he's starting to realize, maybe things aren't what he's thought they were. He's been trying to force a square peg in a round hole so to speak. (minds out of the gutters here people)

Lana and Clark, are in love, with the idea of being in love with each other. But neither one really knows the other person. And both are afraid if the real them comes out they will be rejected. Lana even told Clark she's not who he thinks she is. And Clark immediately rebutted with a no you aren't, you are exactly what i think you are. Clark refuses to acknowledge Lana has faults, and Lana refuses to acknowledge, well, that she has faults. SHe calls Clark on his, hence the on again off again part of their relationship.

Basically, both are realizing right now, they aren't good together, adn can never be. But they are trying to hold onto the idea they've had for years now. It's not that they won't be friends, but I think this really is the beginning of them getting over each other, without even really realizing that's what they are doing. In the end, after some time, probably by the end of this season, they'll be back to frienship of a sort, but the only real love they'll have anymore, is what few good memoried they had together, like most first time couples.

[Toppa]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
I think what's really happening, is Clark is starting to understand relationships better, and why he and Lana won't work out. hence his question why didn't you come to me, and we work it out together.

He's starting to realize, maybe he doesn't love Lana. And honestly, he doesn't. he's in love with the image of Lana he's had in his head since he was seven. Name one person who found true love at seven, and knew it. Clark sure as heck didn't. I think he's starting to realize, maybe things aren't what he's thought they were. He's been trying to force a square peg in a round hole so to speak. (minds out of the gutters here people)

Lana and Clark, are in love, with the idea of being in love with each other. But neither one really knows the other person. And both are afraid if the real them comes out they will be rejected. Lana even told Clark she's not who he thinks she is. And Clark immediately rebutted with a no you aren't, you are exactly what i think you are. Clark refuses to acknowledge Lana has faults, and Lana refuses to acknowledge, well, that she has faults. SHe calls Clark on his, hence the on again off again part of their relationship.

Basically, both are realizing right now, they aren't good together, adn can never be. But they are trying to hold onto the idea they've had for years now. It's not that they won't be friends, but I think this really is the beginning of them getting over each other, without even really realizing that's what they are doing. In the end, after some time, probably by the end of this season, they'll be back to frienship of a sort, but the only real love they'll have anymore, is what few good memoried they had together, like most first time couples.

Hmmm...interesting perspective.

[SmallvilleMan]

Lana and Clark, are in love, with the idea of being in love with each other. But neither one really knows the other person. And both are afraid if the real them comes out they will be rejected. Lana even told Clark she's not who he thinks she is. And Clark immediately rebutted with a no you aren't, you are exactly what i think you are. Clark refuses to acknowledge Lana has faults, and Lana refuses to acknowledge, well, that she has faults. SHe calls Clark on his, hence the on again off again part of their relationship

:lol: I'm sorry I find this kind of funny. I'm not laughing at your opinion, i just find it funny to think that someone would fall in love so they can feel the pain that clark and lana are. Lana never told Clark she isn't who he thinks she is, unless she said it while she was an evil vampire. I'd like to see that quote. Both of them are truly in love, otherwise their relationship would have ended a while ago. No one likes to go through the pain they've been through.


He's starting to realize, maybe he doesn't love Lana. And honestly, he doesn't. he's in love with the image of Lana he's had in his head since he was seven. Name one person who found true love at seven, and knew it. Clark sure as heck didn't. I think he's starting to realize, maybe things aren't what he's thought they were. He's been trying to force a square peg in a round hole so to speak. (minds out of the gutters here people)

Honestly, it's because he doesn't want her getting hurt. If Clark wasn't in love with her, he wouldn't waste so much time on her. He wouldn't feel the pain he's going through. Losing someone you love hurts badly and he's hurting. Point being, he loves her a lot, has said it a lot and unless we know Clark better than the writers do, then he does.

[HalJordan4184]

SmallvilleMan, just out of curiosity, how old are you. I'm not like meaning it in a deragatory way or soemthing, but you sound like a teenager. I know of no healthy adult, that calls what Lana and Clark have, true love.

The point was, they didn't fall in love to feel the pain they are feeling. The pain came, because they aren't actually in love. Lana doesn't trust Clark. She thinks he's constantly lying to her, and she's right. But at the same time, she is still constantly lying to him. She's working with Lex, who she knows is a bad guy, and knows Clark has issues with him. Clark, meanwhile isn't the greatest boyfriend either. He loves Lana so much, he refuses to tell her. Yet at the same time doesn't want to lose her, and knows the only way to avoid that is to be honest. YOu know what, he's told other people and they are fine. Why not Lana. Because Lex will find out. Then tell her to stay away from Lex, and when you tell her about the powers, you can tell her how Lex is such a bad guy. But he won't. Because deep down, he doesn't trust Lana as far as I could throw her. He's still reluctant to be honest about anything. Neither one of them goes tot eh other to work out problems, they just fight about their differences, adn then say I love you. THat's not a loving adult relationship.

I'm pretty sure we do know Clark better than the writers, and why, because they can't write a consistant character to save themselves. We have Lana "the personality sponge" Lang, who takes on whatever personality is convenient for the story, and Clark "the BDA" Kent. WHo despite being the epitome of development and power, can't find his way out fo a paper bag without Chloe.

Oh, and Lana said it, I believe in Season three or four. I'll have to hunt down the episode, but she tells Clark she's not everything he thinks she is, but he refuses to believe it. To Clark, she's like an infallible princess. But the more he's gotten to know, the harder it is for them to try to even pretend things are going great.

[SmallvilleMan]

SmallvilleMan, just out of curiosity, how old are you. I'm not like meaning it in a deragatory way or soemthing, but you sound like a teenager. I know of no healthy adult, that calls what Lana and Clark have, true love.

I'm 18 years old. You know of no healthy adult that calls what Clark and Lana have, true love? What are you saying, that all adults who call what clark and lana have true love are crazy or "Unhealthy". Secondly, doesn't matter how old you are, because there is no clear definition of true love. There is no one way to point what true love is, because we all define it differently.


The point was, they didn't fall in love to feel the pain they are feeling. The pain came, because they aren't actually in love. Lana doesn't trust Clark. She thinks he's constantly lying to her, and she's right. But at the same time, she is still constantly lying to him. She's working with Lex, who she knows is a bad guy, and knows Clark has issues with him. Clark, meanwhile isn't the greatest boyfriend either. He loves Lana so much, he refuses to tell her. Yet at the same time doesn't want to lose her, and knows the only way to avoid that is to be honest. YOu know what, he's told other people and they are fine. Why not Lana. Because Lex will find out. Then tell her to stay away from Lex, and when you tell her about the powers, you can tell her how Lex is such a bad guy. But he won't. Because deep down, he doesn't trust Lana as far as I could throw her. He's still reluctant to be honest about anything. Neither one of them goes tot eh other to work out problems, they just fight about their differences, adn then say I love you. THat's not a loving adult relationship.

Lana doesn't trust Clark? Really? Because I could have sworn that when Clark asked if she trusted him in the caves during reckoning, she said yes by taking his hand. I also could have sworn that she gave him the bloodly stone, no questions asked. Sounds like trust to me. Lana doesn't know the extent of the issues Clark has with Lex. Clark went to Lex a couple times this season for help, Lana doesn't have any idea to the extent of issues Clark has with Lex and she doesn't know he's a bad guy either. He hasn't told anyone, Chloe and Pete found out. Clark was FORCED to let CHloe and Pete know. And if recall Pete wasn't fine, he ran away because he couldn't handle the secret anymore. Chloe is okay, because she keeps her distant for Lex, like he's the plague. You think if he just tells her to stay away from Lex, he'll just go away.:lol: Lex wouldn't just give on Lana like that and Clark can't be there all the time. The only way to keep Lex away from her, would be to kil him. No one and I guarantee, no one would have told her again after seeing her die. How are you going to put someone's life in danger who you love? You're not going to do that, no matter what you have to sacrifice. Lastly, if he didn't trust her, then he would never think about telling her his secret. How many times did he think about telling Lex after season 3? None, because he didn't trust him. Oh and you don't define what a loving adult relationship is, because that's a matter of opinion.


I'm pretty sure we do know Clark better than the writers, and why, because they can't write a consistant character to save themselves. We have Lana "the personality sponge" Lang, who takes on whatever personality is convenient for the story, and Clark "the BDA" Kent. WHo despite being the epitome of development and power, can't find his way out fo a paper bag without Chloe.

Oh yeah, i'm sure you do know Clark better than the writers. But explains this to me, why did WB hire them, instead of you? Just wondering, seeing as how you know Clark better. WB would want the best, right?


Oh, and Lana said it, I believe in Season three or four. I'll have to hunt down the episode, but she tells Clark she's not everything he thinks she is, but he refuses to believe it. To Clark, she's like an infallible princess. But the more he's gotten to know, the harder it is for them to try to even pretend things are going great

Go hunt it down, but i must warn you, it will probably be like hunting for gold.

[Ares]

oi thats a lot to read..

[Whiteshadow]

ohh...........................

[HalJordan4184]

I'm saying,t hey don't have a healthy, truly loving relationship. They just don't. It's psychology. There are healthy, adult relationships, and there are unhealthy relationships. Clark and Lana, are not in a loving adult relationship.

[basketballstar23]

If u guys didn't notice lana also said, "that's what coulples do" THERE'S STILL HOPE!!!!!! CLANA WILL LIVE ON!!!.......hopefully:)

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I'm 18 years old. You know of no healthy adult that calls what Clark and Lana have, true love? What are you saying, that all adults who call what clark and lana have true love are crazy or "Unhealthy". Secondly, doesn't matter how old you are, because there is no clear definition of true love. There is no one way to point what true love is, because we all define it differently.



Lana doesn't trust Clark? Really? Because I could have sworn that when Clark asked if she trusted him in the caves during reckoning, she said yes by taking his hand. I also could have sworn that she gave him the bloodly stone, no questions asked. Sounds like trust to me. Lana doesn't know the extent of the issues Clark has with Lex. Clark went to Lex a couple times this season for help, Lana doesn't have any idea to the extent of issues Clark has with Lex and she doesn't know he's a bad guy either. He hasn't told anyone, Chloe and Pete found out. Clark was FORCED to let CHloe and Pete know. And if recall Pete wasn't fine, he ran away because he couldn't handle the secret anymore. Chloe is okay, because she keeps her distant for Lex, like he's the plague. You think if he just tells her to stay away from Lex, he'll just go away.:lol: Lex wouldn't just give on Lana like that and Clark can't be there all the time. The only way to keep Lex away from her, would be to kil him. No one and I guarantee, no one would have told her again after seeing her die. How are you going to put someone's life in danger who you love? You're not going to do that, no matter what you have to sacrifice. Lastly, if he didn't trust her, then he would never think about telling her his secret. How many times did he think about telling Lex after season 3? None, because he didn't trust him. Oh and you don't define what a loving adult relationship is, because that's a matter of opinion.



Oh yeah, i'm sure you do know Clark better than the writers. But explains this to me, why did WB hire them, instead of you? Just wondering, seeing as how you know Clark better. WB would want the best, right?



Go hunt it down, but i must warn you, it will probably be like hunting for gold.

LOL...Fantastic job, Smallvilleman. You definitely shot down all of those points.

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by basketballstar23
If u guys didn't notice lana also said, "that's what coulples do" THERE'S STILL HOPE!!!!!! CLANA WILL LIVE ON!!!.......hopefully:)

please stop. please???? the denial is killing me. for the love of god, please stop!!!!

and she did say that's what couples do but since they don't do that, then they are not a couple.

[Timester]

Lana, Lana, Lana... When will people realize that SHE DOES NOT EXIST? "We created Lana Lang", Al Gough own words. Yes, a very crappy creation, since the true Lana Lang has nothing to do with this one. People try to bring her age, her life, her problems, but the fact is that doesn't mean nothing. That's simple a spit and paste background (the only good background on Smalville is Lex's). The only thing that really cares is how AlMiles show to us in every episode. If she looks like a b**** on one episode, than she is a b****. If she looks like a great friend, then she is a good friend. That's it. There is no reality there. And that works with every single character on Smallville.

The real true is Lana Lang is the most inconsistence piece of writing in TV history, nothing more nothing else.

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I'm 18 years old. You know of no healthy adult that calls what Clark and Lana have, true love? What are you saying, that all adults who call what clark and lana have true love are crazy or "Unhealthy". Secondly, doesn't matter how old you are, because there is no clear definition of true love. There is no one way to point what true love is, because we all define it differently.



Hey man, Buttercup and Westley are the definition of true love.

[LuckyKrypto]

As you wish.......
:lol:

[loislane123]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
How is what happen in this episode a first step to that? So what if he didn't say "I love you too" back. Lana didn't say anything, when Clark told her she was the only girl he ever loved. They don't have to say anything to know they love each, because they know it.


Yeah I could realy feel the love :lol:

But seriously... that was BEFORE they took their "break"

Maybe's Clark's feelings are changing? Have you ever thought about that?

[DWBSR620]

I think Clark's reaction was appropriate, Lana betrayed Clark's trust by running to Lex. At one point it may've been acceptable to do so but she knows where the Clark & Lex relationship stands, and she choose to bring Lex into it. Clark is starting to realize that it's over, and I think that since his father's death Clark has matured and is seeing things as they are, and as such accepting the reality of it. I believe we'll start seeing Clark pull away from Lana more, and more until it finally is dissolved. It's time anyway for the relationship to end, and for Clark to become more and more the person we'll recognize to be Superman one day and it certainly seems that's what they're going forward with. The more Clark matures the more we'll see him let go of the things that he was so tied to as the High School kid, and one of those things is his insistence that Lana is the woman he's destined to be with for the rest of his life. The more Lana involves herself with Lex like in this episode where she ran to Lex and brought him into it the more she'll distance Clark from her. He'll never trust her as long as she puts trust in Lex. I think the damage has been done by know and the fact Clark didn't respond back is a clear sign that Clark has matured and is bringing this relationship to an end.

Peace To All.

[amberdawn]

Originally posted by loislane123
Maybe's Clark's feelings are changing? Have you ever thought about that?
Its definitely possible.

[mkitty3]

Go hunt it down, but i must warn you, it will probably be like hunting for gold.

She said this at the end of Accelerate in Season 2 SmallvilleMan . She tells Clark:

"It's just that sometimes I feel like you've created this perfect picture of who I am"

To which he replies, "That's what I see". *insert ooey gooey love eyes*

She says "I have this fear that one day you'll finally get a good look at me and I'm going to disappoint you. That you'll see that I'm not as strong or as good as you think I am. And I'm afraid that it will change the way you feel about me".

"Nothing could ever do that...." Clark says.........until now of course:)

Anyway the discussion does exsist. As a vidder I pretty much have every episode of SV memorised. And yes, I am a big loser;)

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by mkitty3

Anyway the discussion does exsist. As a vidder I pretty much have every episode of SV memorised. And yes, I am a big loser;)

will you marry me??? ;)

[mkitty3]

will you marry me???

Yes! I'm going to break the news to my current hubby now! How exciting! :D

[bobser]

Originally posted by BoSoxJim
will you marry me??? ;)

Your avi put a question in my head. Would Alicia have made more of an interesting character to the show, as in, a long term romantic interest for Clark?

Just think of all the fun plots they could have with her, and heck, even play her off of Lana.

*ducks and runs*

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by bobser
Your avi put a question in my head. Would Alicia have made more of an interesting character to the show, as in, a long term romantic interest for Clark?

Just think of all the fun plots they could have with her, and heck, even play her off of Lana.

*ducks and runs*

hey can i marry both you and mkitty3??? more fun for my wife. ha, she just said "more fun?" how about just "fun?"

[Lois Sullivan]

Originally posted by Old Juan
What!? How dare you bring up continuity from a recent episode. Do you not understand that this is Smallville where the ground hog day effect lasts all year around?:D

As much as I find that amusing. You have to admit man that the continuity this season has been spot on. The arguments between Lana and Clark have continued from one episode to the next consistently. Its not like before where they'd get in a fight in one ep. end the episode mad with each other, and the next episode everything would be all find and dandy again. If the writers are doing one thing right this year it's that they're keeping the continuity. Addressing old episodes and characters, and they're keeping the storylines flowing much nicer than previous seasons. I loved the shot of the Red pills in Fanatic (Remember those? We all wondered what they were for if it wasn't going to be his heart. They were his heart pills. He got them in Run. When Clark and Jonathan are leaving the hospital in that ep, he said "yes nice new red pills to go with my pink and my blue" That was a nice bit of continuity.) Honestly this season's probably been the best one yet.

[photogirl]

Okay! Wahoo! Finally! He has finally started to come to the realization that LANA IS NOT THE GIRL FOR HIM!!! Sorry for screaming...
I was so happy when he didn't say "I love you too." I mean, why was she even there? I thought they broke up!!??

[Old Juan]

As much as I find that amusing. You have to admit man that the continuity this season has been spot on.

They've gotten the little things right this year as far as continuity goes. But can't completely give the writers a standing ovation for this as that is something they should be doing all the time. Continuity issues from episode to episode is not hard to do, But when it comes to major crap they continue to drop the ball. Like Lana comming to Clark and giving him crap this episode when she established that they're on a break. Let us also not forgot how the writers forgot that Chloe's mom left when she was five, not twelve. This was established back in season two's Lineage. That is a major continuity screw up.

[amberdawn]

Originally posted by photogirl
I was so happy when he didn't say "I love you too." I mean, why was she even there? I thought they broke up!!??
That is the question on all our minds.

[ckfan]

I thought the whole scene was awful and made things very confusing. It's like they told DeKnight to have a Clana scene and he had a total braincramp about what to write.

I wish they had instead had a Lana-Chloe scene. I think they really needed to talk about how the incidents of the show affected their friendship, etc. Or even a Chloe-Lois or Lois-Clark scene would have been more appropriate. (Maybe Clex?)

I think we all know that Clark and Lana still love each other. You can't turn off that many years of feeling overnight. It will take time. But I just don't think they need to have scenes together just for the sake of having scenes together!

Do something with the scenes! Show them either fighting for real, or really discussing how they aren't meant to be, or making up somehow! The angst is killing us!

[unPTC]

I agree the dialogue in that scene was weird, but I wouldn't read too much into Clark's not responding with the same...everyone seems to forget that Lana said, "I love you, but I don't know how to talk to you anymore" not exactly a finish to the thought that provokes a return of the sentiment...As for the continuity this season...I think it's wildly inconsistent...even though the crystals, tattoo and the geraldine tigue story was awful...there are hanging questions that have never been resolved...as usual the continuity problems have mostly to do with Lana's storyline as the writers send her off in yet another direction that is inconsistent with her character development so far...to me one of the biggest is how Lana said to Clark when giving him the stone..."I somehow know it's meant for you" That seems a pretty big line to never pick up again....she didn't have to say that, she could have simply said I don't trust Lex, so I'm giving it to you for safekeeping...

[Lois Sullivan]

UnPTC, Or maybe she simply said that line because of all the things she knows about those Crystals, and the symbols on them, Clark is the only true connection. The one thing that everything connects to. She knows of his obsession of those caves since day one. And that all the symbols are from the caves. She knows about the burnings on his field and barn with those same symbols. It's not a logic leap that the stones were meant for Clark. Jason realized it, and Lionel possibly knew it all along.

[Ketchup]

Anyone else think that Clana was perfect for the ten minutes or so when Lana knew Clark's secret? I sure did. Clana CAN be perfect, CLark just chooses for it not to be. The reason this is falling apart is not because of Lana, but because of Clark and his inability to open up to the person he cares about the most.

And one more thing bothered me about this episode... there was like barely any mention of Clark's father... wth, he can't be over him already.

[Sayzak]

My father committed suicide a week ago.

I haven't posted much on the boards because of the irony of the storyline so far... it's ahrd to hear about how much someone misses their father and how someone aught to be grieving.

Let me tell you, from recent personal experience...

A LOT can happen in one week. I don't talk about my father more than 2 hours in a day. There are 24.

In smallville, much more time has passed than one week.

And they're trying to sum that up in 40 minutes of film.

If, by the 3rd week, he hasn't begun healing--there's something seriousely wrong with him. I'm already on the upswing and it's been exactly 8 days.

I think Smallville is doing a very tasteful job with the Death of JK.

[Toppa]

Originally posted by Sayzak
My father committed suicide a week ago.

I haven't posted much on the boards because of the irony of the storyline so far... it's ahrd to hear about how much someone misses their father and how someone aught to be grieving.

Let me tell you, from recent personal experience...

A LOT can happen in one week. I don't talk about my father more than 2 hours in a day. There are 24.

In smallville, much more time has passed than one week.

And they're trying to sum that up in 40 minutes of film.

If, by the 3rd week, he hasn't begun healing--there's something seriousely wrong with him. I'm already on the upswing and it's been exactly 8 days.

I think Smallville is doing a very tasteful job with the Death of JK.

Accept my condolences.

[amberdawn]

I am so sorry to hear that. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

[Crazy4Smallville]

Originally posted by UpandAtom
Had Jonathan not died, Lana would've broken up with Clark. She's probably just deciding to stay with him now out of sympathy, the same way she stayed with Whitney after his father died.

Had Jonathan not died, Lana would be dead.

[turdyerb]

Clark and Lana were never perfect together. Even in Reckoning. The chase was what was perfect. I was definitely rooting for them in the beginning. The writers actually made you believe they were meant for each. The writers have now pulled a 180 and show that they ARE NOT meant for each other. So kudos to them on that (even though they are lacking in other departments). But let's get some Clark and Chloe.. JUST ONE... PLEASE.. JUST ONE episode. But then I'd also like to see Clark and Lois develope.