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Lana_Lang #1
02-09-2006, 02:14 PM
Loved It?

Hated It?

What did YOU think of Smallville Season 5 Episode 14 "Tomb?

attitudejc
02-09-2006, 05:29 PM
i haven't even seen it yet, and i love it already!

shy175223
02-09-2006, 06:49 PM
Allison Mack was absolutaley awsome!

Prunk1121
02-09-2006, 07:00 PM
hated it

The acting was amazing. Erica and Allison did an amazing job. They were awesome.

The overall episode, i hated. i don't even understand what happened...:confused:

But the acting was Great :)

chole_fan
02-09-2006, 07:05 PM
Acting was great. The episode was okay, but not one of the best. It wasn't anything like what I was expecting (I guess thats why I am feeling a little underwhelmed)

attitudejc
02-09-2006, 07:09 PM
u guys are crazy! i loved it....all. well, except for the ending, i don't know why, i just firgured that they weren't going to go that far into her mom situation.

u guys are crazy! i loved it....all. well, except for the ending, i don't know why, i just firgured that they weren't going to go that far into her mom situation.

coasterprincess
02-09-2006, 07:12 PM
The whole dead-girl that cut herself way beyond creepy. I'm not a big horror fan so it didn't do too much for me. But the acting was just amazing. The girls did just a great job handling all of it.

Daydreamer731
02-09-2006, 07:17 PM
Kinda Smallville meets XFiles. Definitely my kinda thing.

And how cool was that dagger throw? (Although I did wonder how he just *happened* to know to cut free her left hand...:p )

flcn6
02-09-2006, 07:20 PM
I liked it. Having (almost) the entire eppisode rest on AM's shoulders was nice. She could handle it. The stroy line was a a bit hazy, but it seems to be linked with Vengence. The ghost (Gretchen) wanted Vengence on the Orderlie. Im seeing the whole 'vengence' theme from the last 2 eppy's. With Fine coming back (I think so at least, with how Lex was talking about finding Fine), vengence on Clark would be big. Wonder if they are going to run with that theme (or i might just be making it up :p)

Vatusia
02-09-2006, 07:23 PM
I liked the episode for a lot of reasons. Like everyone else, I thought the acting was excellent, especially by AM and ED, who play off each other so well. I think judging by early spoilers that Lois wasn't planned as being such a factor in the ep but that they changed from the original concept (of Chloe being put in the mental institution and finding out that an orderly at the mental institution was keeping women he'd killed in the walls of his house) to make it less like 'Gothika.' I kinda liked what they came up with, though the resulting drama seemed a little diffused because it was now spread out over more characters. Lana just came off (again) seeming obnoxious for immediately wanting to commit Chloe, and Lex just seemed like a busybody. It would be between Chloe's dad and her doctors whether to commit her anyway, and as far as I could see, no one even called him.

Also, maybe it's the fact that I watched 'The Ring' today, but the problem with doing a show like this on prime time broadcast TV is that the writers/producers can't quite be as brutal and scary as the story would seem to require. I also didn't really 'get' the whole krypto connection - what exactly did the bracelet do again?

But I enjoyed it for the Chloe-Lois bonding, for the forward movement of Chloe's character (I hope they follow through with the interesting possibilities this ep sets up. :) ), for the more assertive behavior of Lois, and for the lovely 'Chloe goes to see Mom' scene at the end. Clark didn't have much to do in the ep, but I'm fine with seeing other characters getting their own eps from time to time as long as it isn't just another 'krypto-freak obsessed with Lana' ep. ;)

I did kinda want the FOTW-ghost to come through the TV though. :lol: But yeah, I enjoyed it.

firefly2000
02-09-2006, 07:27 PM
I loved it. AM is my favorite, so, getting to see her run with an episode was heaven. She's so great.

Kel-El
02-09-2006, 07:33 PM
I've gotta say, i absolutely loved it. This episode was a change of pace. It had a different fell to it than other episodes. And Allison Mack. wow. Her acting was amazing.

Mulana
02-09-2006, 07:57 PM
What happened to the freaking poll??
:confused:

I thought the episode was ok. Allison Mack is ssoooo cute and such a good actress.;)

spideyfan
02-09-2006, 08:01 PM
It was a okay episode. AM was flawless !

I hated Lana in this episode...Martha was cool and I liked her part here. CK did good too. Lois was refreshing.

7/10

muffinpeddler
02-09-2006, 08:07 PM
Am was magnificent! But I felt the story was very filler-like. They never explained WHY Chloe slit her wrists!

chole_fan
02-09-2006, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by muffinpeddler
Am was magnificent! But I felt the story was very filler-like. They never explained WHY Chloe slit her wrists!

I was wondering about that too. At first I thought it was because the girl had already possessed her, but that didn't happen until later in the episode. So, unless the girl temporarily took over her body, then left I'm not sure why she did that.

sheltiemom
02-09-2006, 08:12 PM
The horror genre doesn't do much for me (I sit with my hands covering my eyes and asking what's happening).,so needless to say I jumped out of my seat a few times.

I thought the episode was good--Allison Mack is a teriffic actress great to see her talents being used.
The scene of Martha in the kitchen- I immediately noticed she was using Jonathan's mug. I loved her telling Lioel to use the front door and better yet call first.
Lana again with the comments about secrets--get off it already!!
Creepy guy- I'm double locking my door tonight.
Clark telling Mom to take Dad's senate seat- nice to see him growing up alittle.

LuckyKrypto
02-09-2006, 08:12 PM
I thought the episode's story was a little weird for my taste. But I really liked ED and AM. They were just awsome.
I kind of felt like Lex and Lana were just filler for this episode and didn't really understand why they needed to be in this episode. But hey, that's just me.
Overall a pretty good episode. I hope to see more of Chloe and Lois. I think they are such interesting characters. :)

shadowcat20x
02-09-2006, 08:16 PM
I don't know.....it was different.

I liked how Lois threw the knife at the guy, and when Chloe approached her mom at the end.....but the overall show was so creepy, I don't know if I could truly enjoy those things or not.

It was crafted very well, I just....I don't know. It left a yucky taste in my mouth.

Saber
02-09-2006, 08:21 PM
I liked it, it was good.
Very uneven in certain spots with some plot holes but not a bad murder mystery.
It was certainly an improvement from last week.

Happy Random
02-09-2006, 08:21 PM
I thought it was pretty good. It was a little disturbing for my tastes, but it ended ok, so, ya know.

Loved the Clois this episode!! AM did a great job too. Lana was driving me up the wall however, and I also didn't really see a point to the Lexana. Lex was just kind of there to get Chloe out of the hospital I thought, there was really not a purpose to him being there. :\

RiotingRebel
02-09-2006, 08:34 PM
I loved this episode!

Alison did such an amazing job. This episode really showed that she can truly act. I just wish she had more scenes that accentuated her acting ability. That girl is talented!

Erica was also excellent in this episode. I honestly did not like Lois in the beginning, but after the last few episodes she has been in, and especially this one, I am really starting to like Lois.

This has got to be one of my favourite episodes. I did not like the Clana though. I personally think they have dragged the whole Clark and Lana relationship on for long enough. I was glad there wasn't much Clana. But I'm also a Chlark fan through and through so that may also be why I don't like the whole Clana story line.

The scene at the end with Chloe going to see her mother, really broke my heart. I cried. I thought it was just so great. You can tell that Smallville is definitely going to get better.

Vatusia
02-09-2006, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by chole_fan
I was wondering about that too. At first I thought it was because the girl had already possessed her, but that didn't happen until later in the episode. So, unless the girl temporarily took over her body, then left I'm not sure why she did that.

I think the girl either temporarily possessed Chloe or otherwise induced her to slit her wrists 1) because Dahmer-boy had made his victims do that, and 2) because krypto-ghost-girl wanted to go to the hospital in Chloe's body in order to find Dahmer-boy, who worked there.

muffinpeddler
02-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Tyrrath
I think the girl either temporarily possessed Chloe or otherwise induced her to slit her wrists 1) because Dahmer-boy had made his victims do that, and 2) because krypto-ghost-girl wanted to go to the hospital in Chloe's body in order to find Dahmer-boy, who worked there.

Dahmer-boy! :rotfl: LMFAO! Uh...does that make me inhuman? Laughing about a psycho killer?

RJK62284
02-09-2006, 08:46 PM
I wouldn't say love but I sure liked it any episode that features chloe has to be good

mild_mannered
02-09-2006, 08:51 PM
It amazes me that they wasted such good performances on such a garbage episode.

If you remove this one from the Smallville Archives nothing would be lost.

And how many freaking times are we going to the possesd by dead people well? Seriously think of something else.

MBCorp
02-09-2006, 08:52 PM
It was pretty pointless and mediocre with a really lousy script.

LexLuthorMetropolis
02-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
It was pretty pointless and mediocre with a really lousy script.

I agree, MB. Hated this episode overall. Was bored to death watching it and the infamous inconsistenies continue.

BadToad
02-09-2006, 08:55 PM
I wasn't too crazy about this one. AM did a great job, ED and TW were very good this week too. And there were a few scenes I liked. But overall, the script and story didn't work for me.

Summers
02-09-2006, 08:55 PM
Too many inconsistences from the braclet to Clana. It was just filler episode with nothing there. There was potential for there to be, but they failed at delivering it. You can skip the episode, and truly not miss a thing.

k18
02-09-2006, 09:01 PM
Episode sucked. It was overhyped and not intense at all.

SuperToad
02-09-2006, 09:17 PM
not as good as the previous two. it was like "Ageless" and "Forever" of Season 4...definitely a forgettable episode.

attitudejc
02-09-2006, 09:19 PM
not for me, i loved it. all of you are saying that the acting was great, and personally, that makes a good episode for me. i mean, if it was a great plot, and bad acting, i wouldn't like. but, it wasn't......and i did!

chlarklove
02-09-2006, 09:29 PM
I personally LOVED this episode. IMO, it's the best episode.

Allison did such a fantastic job. She truly proved why she's the best actor on Smallville, and I'll go out on a limb and say the best young actress on television, IMO.

I really loved Clark tonight. He was so concerned for Chloe and took immediate action. And loved how he proved that he could investigate all by himself!

The Chlark was so wonderful too. They really show why they're such great friends. They're there for each other through thick and thin.

We're totally gonna see Chlark vs Lexana later this season.

The Clana I really just don't care about anymore. Just break the heck up already and move on.

And "Lois" just really needs to go away. She grates so much, but at least I've finally found a way to somewhat tune her out. :p

The ending? Broke. My. Heart. I was seriously sobbing. Beautiful.


You can skip the episode, and truly not miss a thing.

This? I don't get at all. What would the point be of them bringing Chloe's mom in at the very end of the episode, and NEVER REVEALING a face OR a name, to not come back to it ever again? And as it would seem, her mom RECOGNIZED her. To me, that's almost like her mom isn't all that "ill" to begin with.

Also, it's very clear that there are lines being drawn in the sand between Chlark and Lexana.

Yes, there were inconsistencies with the episode and plot holes etc. But I honestly think that's because it was rewritten and they changed a lot about it. Does that excuse it? No. But it still was, IMO, a great episode.

Toppa
02-09-2006, 09:37 PM
Nice episode.

Yuui
02-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Allison Mack performed well this week, but the premise was lame, as are most of these "kryptonite infused" episodes.

And the writers could have at least tried to be original, instead of adapting the "Nip/Tuck" season finale into this sham.

dhacker615
02-09-2006, 11:13 PM
Overall, I thought it was a pretty strong episode. Allison Mack did an amazing job. When she was possesed, she managed to act like a different character in the same body. She knocked all of her big scenes out of the park. It is a shame that everything has been so heavy this season, the light Chlark scenes are a lot of fun. However, they showed they can do they loyalty thing too. Those two being in conflict with Lex and Lana is more fun than I expected and it is a fresh angle.

The episode as a whole was very good. I like the more horror type episodes. Clark and his powers matter a lot less with ghosts wandering around. I thought the use of Lois was good for a change. She is smart and tough. It was nice to see those characteristics in play.

Shiver
02-09-2006, 11:30 PM
The Good:

1) Allison Mack - great acting (again)

2) Chloe's Mom (yay, continuity)

3) Lois not knowing about Chloe's mom (yay, conflict)

4) the darker tone of the episode (Smallville could use some more "adult" threats once in a while)

5) the final scene with Chloe and her mom

The Bad

1) Clana still a couple? (since when does "we've had our last fight" translate to this?)

2) Lex (An episode about mental illness? Involving Chloe, one of the two people who knew Lex had been driven insane by his father? Give Lex something to do, besides bankrolling Lana and acting sinister!)

3) Bad writing moments (The kryptonite. The knife throwing. Clark's superspeed from Metropolis to the basement. The convenient address on the hospital website. The lack of Gabe. Lex suddenly becoming Chloe's legal guardian. Etc.)

wyrm11
02-09-2006, 11:39 PM
Sorry but is it October 31st already? Why did we have a random Halloween episode???

Terrible episode...and I rarely ever say that. Lois throwing the knife at the guy? C'mon now, you can pull the trigger 5x before a knife hits you. Even AFTER the knife hits you, you can pull the trigger 5x.

And can Clark stop being a TERRIBLE son and spend some time with his mom? You'd think that after your DAD died, Clark would be spending a LOT of time with his mom.

Lana talking about what "couples" do after SHE broke up with Clark??? Yea...that makes a lot of sense.

There was so much about this episode that was meaningless it was ridiculous. Like others have said, I could have slept through this one and not have missed anything.

Vatusia
02-09-2006, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by muffinpeddler
Dahmer-boy! :rotfl: LMFAO! Uh...does that make me inhuman? Laughing about a psycho killer?

No worse than I am for making the joke in the first place! :rotfl: (you always make me to laff, muffin :D )

SamBanksJLA
02-10-2006, 01:56 AM
I didn't even bother watching the episode. If I wanted a Chloe episode I would have watched Veronica Mars the other night. From everything I read about it, it sounded like another let down episode, like the previous two, so I just said screw it and didn't watch. And from everything I read on here, I really don't regret my decision. I will just wait for the DVD.

constancelight
02-10-2006, 03:00 AM
Dude, I loved this episode! Never been into Angel/Buffy/X-files/ or any other horror scary stuff, so this episode freaked.me.out. I totally thought the content of the episode was great.

And the acting phenomenal. Allison Mack is like one of the most gifted actresses on TV. seriously.

ED also I think busted out one of her best performances too.

I also loved how Clark was so worried and concerned for Chloe. And hee, Chloe was in Clark's bedroom.

Didn't care for Lex and Lana. They seemed sort of thrown into the episode.

Although i thought it was rather sneaky and evilish of Lex to try and shuck Chloe off to Belle Reve to uncover her secrets of Clark.

Also Loved the Mionel. AOT and JG have super chemistry. So do TW and AOT.

tornoofo17
02-10-2006, 03:38 AM
I found the episode amusing. We got to see Lionel enter through Martha's backdoor, and we also got to see The Brain (but no Pinky apparently). My gripes? I expected to see Chloe's mom to turn around and look super insane at the end. Instead it was just a really cheesy moment when it could've easily turned into a really dark and twisted moment, like we were led to believe. Instead, Chloe's mom is not really that insane and she's just been chillin' all this time at like some sunshine institute or some crap. Not only that, but I really thought Supernatural aired on Tuesday nights...

SuperClarkMode
02-10-2006, 04:38 AM
I like watching new episodes no matter what, but I kept waiting for the cool part to happen. It never did! Oh well...

And I love it how everyone just gives up on the idea of throwing Chloe away in a white padded room after she uses her electricuter thingy on Lex. Why did Lex stop looking for her? It is not like him to just give up. What, did Lana go to Lex and say "Oh, she was possessed, didn't you know?" Did the suicide watch doc just loss her file? Too many holes... I hate that more than the filler episode script quality. And why show a wig on a stick for Chloes mom (They only showed the back of her head, and hand. No words. I wonder if that actor got more than five bucks?) If you were not going to show her face, or incorperate her into the show, why even make it an issue? Chloe's where is mom plot should have ended with an honest " Sorry Clark, I don't know where she is, but I miss her."

Every episode seems to have a big FX moment, where all the buget for FX was sunk into, some uber Matrix like moment usually. And exactly what was the big FX moment again for the eppisode? I already forgot. It must have not have been good, if it was there at all. They better be saving FX dollars/writting hours for a better more epic episodes.

If the quality of this episode was the norm, I might not even be the avid Smallville fan that I am today. Thankfully, this is not the norm. I mean, I bet this was supposed to be intense, Chloe locked away, OMG! This ended up being lackluster and predictable though. Not to mention it was done ten time better with Lex before, and I just knew that Clark would not let her be locked up, he would just flex his pinky, they would break out of jail, go have a cup of coffee at the Talon, and laugh it off.

Daydreamer731
02-10-2006, 04:48 AM
Aren't there always though? On just about any show? I think it's a downfall of television (well, okay, and movies too) that the writers tend to pull the "annnd we don't know how to fix this, so we'll just show you the afterward part" card.

SuperClarkMode
02-10-2006, 04:59 AM
Yea, I know, but thats why I only select the best to devote myself to. I want better than normal TV programing. Smallville is better than this. This is Smallville is on a sick day. I hope TPTB have Sutafed.

And what is with the Lana and Clark "Why didn't we trust each other, we love each other moment"

Dude, you guys broke up. Lana herself said I need a break from us, and to Lex she said Clark and I had our last fight. Never trust your X's.

T'Pol
02-10-2006, 05:02 AM
I didn't watch it. I watched it as far as the intro when chloe cut herself and that was enough for me. I turned it off. I love watching smallville and AM is one of my favorites but i feel that i just couldn't watch this one.

SuperClarkMode
02-10-2006, 05:06 AM
I may have some dissapointments from time to time, but not so much as I am not going to watch it at all. Even bad superhero stories are still superhero stories, and therefore cool. If I am too busy, and its a filler eppy, thats one thing, but all things equal, I am there for the highs and the lows, and I never miss an episode.

enamored
02-10-2006, 06:52 AM
I really didn't care much for this episode as a whole, but I'm not much into the horror type stuff. I thought the main story was mostly a filler episode.

However, as usual there were a few parts of this episode that I felt were important.

1. Chloe got an episode! Yeah! I love her character and am happy when she gets significant air time. AM did an awesome job.

2. Clana. NO it's not what you're thinking. I figured the TPTB would manage to string things along to a degree. Lana seems to think they are still a couple but did anyone else notice how indifferent Clark was toward her? He knows it's over even if she doesn't but he doesn't like her going to Lex "behind his back".
Clana was fun while it lasted but it has to end because Lois is Clark's future. Between "Vengeance" and "Tomb" I think we are seeing Clark moving away from Lana.

3. Martha moving toward taking the Senate position. This could be another point of contention between Clark/the Kents and Lex. Also, Clark stepping up to adult responsibility telling his mom that he would take over the farm.

4. Clark protecting Chloe (instead of siding with Lana). Yes, I liked that he kept Chloe from being sent to Belle Rive, but I don't think it was entirely altruistic. I think there was also a part of
Clark that worried that in Belle Rive they would do something to Chloe that would make her reveal his secret. I also think that with all the weird things that have happened in Smallville, assuming that Chloe has gone mad without considering other possibilities is unrealistic. For Lana to accept that Chloe's mad without questioning it is hard to believe.

4. Lionel. What more can I say? He was deliciously creepy. They are definitely going to explore his obsession with Martha.

5. Clark convincing Chloe that she should go see her mother. With his recent loss, he knows that Chloe would never forgive herself if she doesn't reconnect in some way. It should be interesting to see how Chloe's mom might figure in future episodes. I admit, I got a little teary for Chloe.

As you can see it was not the whole dead girl possession part that I felt made the episode (other than giving AM a chance to shine). It was the little side sections that were more important.

TW1977
02-10-2006, 07:31 AM
Hated it!

Ok,....I didn't care for this episode. The actors did well but the story was not for me. "I see dead people" and I don't like to!
Too many holes in the story.

I was wondering if I missed something but...umm... why did Lionel come all the way to the Kent farm in the pouring rain? To pick up dropped papers? He was there,...what, 5 minutes? The writers came short there. Boring!

I'm a stickler for details! With all the pouring rain that went on throughout the episode, how did everyone get around without getting wet? CK carries Chloe outside from the Hosp, in her hosp gown, in the rain and not one of them has a raincoat or is wet? C'mon! A few drops on their shirts or wet hair at least! Make me believe this is real guys! I won't watch this one again! This is so far the worst episode as far as story. Sorry! :(

pags3223
02-10-2006, 08:01 AM
I really enjoyed the episode.

I thought it was very nice to have a Chloe-centric episode where Allison Mack's talents really got to shine. They also made it plausible by incorporating the fear of turning out like her mother and the eventual reconciliation with her.

I really liked that Clark showed more concern for Chloe as opposed to his typical blindly trusting Lana phase. It also was really good that althought Chloe's secret about her mom still came out, it was not Clark that caused it to be revealed, which means he was willing to be a friend to Chloe by keeping her secret the same way she kept his. Clark also nicely filled Jonathan's shoes with the moral lesson to Chloe at the end about seeing her mother.

Lionel's continued manipulation of Martha is very well done. A lot of people seem to questioning it, but I think it is properly done. She is still vulnerable from losing her husband and is not yet used to being independent. Lionel knows this and is trying to make sure she sees him consistently enough so that she sees him as a possibility.

Lex wasn't particularly evil, although my guess was that he had an underlying motive of having the doctors "treat" Chloe so that he could try to find out more about Clark. I think it would have been nice if they had a scene where Lex was talking with the doctors by phone, prepping them for the patient and the results he wanted to see. However, I did think it was good that they showed Lex as still trying to find Dr. Fine, which will set up his eventual reappearance well. It also continues to provide continuity to the beginning of the season.

Overall, I give the episode an A.

loistickyfingerz
02-10-2006, 09:03 AM
I thought it was nice to focus on Chloe's story, but the whole wrists cut thing at the beginning was never explained properly, nor what on earth Chloe was doing in Smallville to begin with.

They have a long way to go on this show in defining Clark and Chloe's relationship. It seems only logical that they should eventually get involved, and they had better either let that happen, or come up with a darn good reason why not. And I think that reason will have to come from Chloe rather than Clark, but that's just my opinion.

I don't like the road they are going down with Clana. I think it's wrong to end it because of Clark's resentment about something Lana had absolutely no control over. They need to end because they both realize who the other is, and in understanding that they understand they cannot work as a couple. Any other way, resentment, jealously, is just a cop-out in my opinion, and will leave Clark's future wife, Lois Lane, seeming like a second banana, which she is not.

This episode was interesting but it left a lot of questions unanswered. I have always presumed that Chloe and Lois are cousins through Chloe's dad and Lois' mom being siblings. I certainly hope, though, that Lois' discovery about Chloe's mom doesn't go unanswered.

Does Chloe have no family? I swear, what is wrong with bringing back Gabe? And if not, I would have thought that Clark or Lois would have at least offered to go with Chloe to see her mom.

I hope Lois doesn't live in that apartment much longer. I don't think many reasonable people could after all that.

Otherwise, the episode was ok, even if they didn't really sell me on the terror part.

3 out of 5.

mar1013
02-10-2006, 09:03 AM
wow, and awesome episode i have enjoyed Allison Macks's talent, she is a really good actress, and i think it was time to have a Chloe's episode

EricN68
02-10-2006, 09:14 AM
This was easily my least favorite episode of the season. I never felt like I understood a) the psycho's intent/purpose/schtick, or b) the bracelet's power. I was constantly going "Huh? Why did that happen?"

Luthor_Intelligence
02-10-2006, 09:25 AM
definantly the worst episode this season.

sdcheesehead
02-10-2006, 09:28 AM
Well said "enamored", I agree with your important points.

I, on the otherhand, liked this episode. The acting was awesome, especially for AM. She was really convincing. TW & ED did very well too. I agree there were some plot holes out there. I'm still confused with the K-nite braclet...what was going on there? And I must've missed the part where Lex mentioned Dr. Fine. I loved the Mionel scene, with Martha putting Lionel in his place. Go Martha!!!

I am, however, looking forward to next weeks episode. We've had 3 weeks of "darker" episodes, which is understandable (RIP Jonathon), I guess I'm ready for a "lighter" episode, before going through March Madness (with no new eps until April!!).

Magus
02-10-2006, 09:34 AM
Hated it with all my heart.

Crazy4Smallville
02-10-2006, 09:44 AM
Wow, what an episode – but what was I watching? It didn’t feel like Smallville – it was better! I actually felt like I was watching an episode of Supernatural or some motion picture thriller. It was great all over. It was filled with great writing, great acting and great visual effects. I was literally on the edge of my seat during most of the show and on the verge of tears at the end.

OMG – a Chloe shower scene! I didn’t think I’d live to see the day – and in the same shower that Lana had once used – Go figure! I thought it might have been Lois in the shower, because it was her voice I heard first, but it turned out to be Chloe. I was shocked. Did anyone see the scary face in the shower curtain? It sent chills down my spine.

I thought that something had to be wrong with Chloe. As smart as she was, I couldn’t believe she was taking a shower during a thunderstorm. I suppose since her mother left when she was younger that was one of the lessons she missed out on. Anyway, the whole scene was creepy. I nearly jumped out of my skin when I saw the body rush past while Chloe lit her candle. Then when she wiped the mirror and the girl, who looked like she might have been related to that freak from The Ring, popped in – I screamed! My poor fingernails are gone now!!!

Couldn’t Lois tell that Chloe wasn’t acting herself when she opened the door and saw her sitting there with her slit wrists? I mean, come on! This is Chloe Sullivan, one of the most driven girls in the world. Why would anyone just believe that she tried to kill herself? A person with goals and aspirations are not suicidal. Besides that… she was in Smallville. By this time EVERYONE should question EVERYTHING that happens in Smallville. Yet, Lois doesn’t question her cousin’s actions?

Tom Welling is getting so good at his craft. His facial expressions alone in this episode spoke more than his lines ever did or ever will. He was excellent!

Clark was the only one in Smallville who suspected that something wasn’t right. When he showed up at the hospital and Lois told him that Chloe had tried to kill herself, you saw this look on his face that screamed, “Ain’t no way… Chloe?” Then, he didn’t treat Chloe like a porcelain doll and just came right out and asked her why she did it. He knew that something wasn’t right. Also, I loved Chloe’s line about being a writer and if she wanted to kill herself she’d have one heck of a suicide note. I don’t know why anyone else wouldn’t have thought the same thing. I had been screaming for ten minutes, “This is Chloe Sullivan – if she wanted to kill herself, she’d make sure it would make the front page of the Daily Planet!” I did do the checklist as the doctor listed the symptoms of possible causes and Chloe had all of them, but Chloe’s not your typical ace reporter – she’s the best friend of Superman.

Then Lana shows up. It didn’t bother me that she showed up, I expected that. Chloe is supposed to be her best friend and her roommate. (Yet, I’ve never quite understood the friends’ thing because I’ve never thought Lana had been much of a friend to Chloe, but that’s another story.) Lana doesn’t question anything and she completely forgets everything about all the past events that have happened at Belle Reve – including what happened to Lex. But, she runs to Lex (which is understandable now that she doesn’t feel comfortable talking with Clark) and asks him to help ensure that Chloe is committed? Who the heck does she think she is? It’s obvious that Lana doesn’t know anything about Chloe. She should have run to her boyfriend and Chloe’s best friend, Clark, or at least her cousin, Lois. This moment wasn’t about her – it was about Chloe. She knew how Clark and Chloe feel about Lex and how they both feel about Belle Reve. Okay – I’ll stop there and get right onto Lex.

Lex could care less about Chloe, yet he had two alternate reasons to try and help her. 1. To win favor from Lana and be viewed as someone who cared. 2. To get Chloe into Belle Reve so that he can probe her mind and find out what she knows about Clark. I saw his stripes as plain as day when he showed contempt towards Clark outside of the dorm-room. He knew he had an opportunity to try and make Clark look bad at the same time making himself look like the mature one – in front of Lana. I hope she felt really bad and like a cheater when Clark came around the corner. She had no business involving Lex. Clark noticed her betrayal I think for the first time.

Does Clark not tell his mother what goes on anymore or does she just not care about Chloe? She acted like she didn’t know anything, not even a “How is Chloe doing?” I suppose Lionel’s appearance still had her all shook up. BTW – why was Lionel at the backdoor instead of the front? Is he a peeping Tom? I don’t know why Martha didn’t just kick his butt right back out of the door. Why does she tolerate him?

So, Lex is looking for Professor Fine? I thought he was dead? But, then again – if he was neither human nor Kryptonian, combined with the fact that his spaceship also disappeared, I think we will be seeing him again.

So, what exactly was the FOTW’s gift? To make (crazy)girls feel comfortable with him and tell them their secrets, yet he also told them his – so he had to kill them? Was it sort of like the gift of truth that Chloe once had? Could that have been the reason why only she could see the girl – or was fused because of the lightening? I don’t’ think it was the lightening, because we saw her face in the shower curtain long before the lightening strike hit. Sometimes I think its best not to try and figure out the FOTWs gifts and just go with it. I thought he did a great job acting psychotically freaky and the ghost girl did a great job of acting scary and Chloe did an excellent job of acting possessed.

And now… Chloe’s mom! I HATED that they didn’t show me her face, but am appreciative that they focused on Chloe’s. I choked up. The hard lump in my throat took at least ten minutes to go away. Clark’s facial expressions when he was talking to Chloe about her mom were excellent as well. It showed how much he cared about Chloe. It was completely selfless and had nothing to do with him. He was only concerned with her well-being and he used his own loss as a way to reach out to her. That was love. They’re comfortable together and they can be their true selves.

Like I said before, I think this was one of the best episodes I’ve ever seen. It didn’t really feel like Smallville, but it was great. Maybe this is how Smallville should be!


This has been Crazy4Smallville’s weekly review. Till Next Time!

Jack's_Son
02-10-2006, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
The Chlark was so wonderful too. They really show why they're such great friends. They're there for each other through thick and thin.

We're totally gonna see Chlark vs Lexana later this season.

Also, it's very clear that there are lines being drawn in the sand between Chlark and Lexana.


This is the exact point of the episode. The rest of the story was just filler. It was all about taking sides.

If the writers had really wanted this to be about furthering Clana, they would have Clark just tell Lana when she asked him why didnt he say that he was breaking Chloe out, "I didn't trust Lex's motives." That's all. Instead, they just have him looking down and not saying a word. They've written this version of CK as just a little TOO timid.

Fish1941
02-10-2006, 09:48 AM
He knows it's over even if she doesn't but he doesn't like her going to Lex "behind his back".

Sounds like Clark is being his usual hypocritical self when it comes to Lana.

Daphne
02-10-2006, 09:50 AM
It was cool. Scary. I liked it. Though I felt a little freaked out for Chloe there for a while.

lexobsessed
02-10-2006, 10:09 AM
Hated it. I am so tired of these pointless episodes.
I am officially not going to watch Smallville anymore.
With the big ratings in the beginning of this season, which
was only due to the fact that the beginning of the season
actually had to do with the Superman Series which is what
people want to see, the writers have completely wasted
an amazing opportunity by going back to these stale, pointless,
silly episodes. Drives me crazy, it's like they are trying to bury
this once great, exciting show.

And they have even managed to turn the most fascinating, and strongest, smartest character on the show, Lex, into a whiny, sissy, school boy with a crush (Lana) with some of the worst lines in the show. If I was MR, I would try to get out before all his dignity as an actor is flushed down the toilet.

Liriel
02-10-2006, 12:26 PM
They need to end because they both realize who the other is, and in understanding that they understand they cannot work as a couple. Any other way, resentment, jealously, is just a cop-out in my opinion, and will leave Clark's future wife, Lois Lane, seeming like a second banana, which she is not.

I agree. I've been saying since season 3 that they needed to date for 5-15 episodes and then break up mutually because neither is who/what the other person thought they were or maybe just because they are not what the other person needs.

attitudejc
02-10-2006, 12:57 PM
have you guys noticed that this thread is going good bad good bad good bad? well, i absolutely loved it! probably my fav ever! i loved the acting (as many many have said) and....i just loved it. but, most of you guys are saying how Clark totally trusted everything chloe was saying, and thats not true. at first, yes, he was, but he did have those points when he didn't know what to think. for example, when chloe was saying "shes in the wall, we have to get her out" clark was just like "okay, okay we will get her out", as if just telling her that so she would calm down. and the moments before that, when she was like "did you hear that?" and he was like "hear what?" i think he was thinking, chloe don't do this, i know that your not crazy, but your not proving anything.

The most powerful line i have ever heard was when chloe said "she didn't deserve to die like that you son of a b**ch." i was like "whoa, intense".

and, i would never ever not watch an episode just because i didn't think that it was going to be good. like next week "cyborg" i think that this one will be the worst ever this season, but im still gonna watch it! its rediculous to not watch an episode because your "favorite character" isn't the main part, or cause you "don't like the plot". in my book, you would not be considered a fan. (i am not referring to anyone in particular.)

F-Stop Blues
02-10-2006, 01:23 PM
I cant say that I hated this ep becuase I didnt but it didnt live up to my own hype which I guess is my own fault. I liked that it was a Chloe centered ep. All throughout I kept thinking about how much happier Allison Mack must be this season compared to last.

I didnt really understand the Gretchen girls motives nor did I totally understand the creppy guy's either, but I went with it. One of the major things that bothered me though was that the creepy guy captured and psuedo tortured Chloe and Lois so I thought Clark was going to unload something fierce on this guy but instead he gets knocked out. That was kinda lame but I understand that TPTB wanted the Gretchen girls spirit to kill creepy guy, so ok i'll go with that too.

Lana in this ep was atrocious. I'm sorry, I cant stand her. I figured out why they didnt keep her dead in Reckoning, no one would have cared that much if she died, I'm certain of it. Anyway thats just my opinion. I like the fact that it seems like Clark is realizing that he and Lana just wont work. They are broken up so I didnt get what Lana was saying but I dont really see them being all cute and cuddly so Lana can say whatever she wants, they arent together. Clark must realize how much happier he is when he's around Chloe and Lois. It seems like they are his only friends.

Overall I liked the episode....not a whole lot but I wouldnt say it was terrible. I hope we see more of Chloe and her mom but I kinda doubt it. Another thing I've noticed this year is the grander continuity, like Lana referencing Lex going crazy, or the Pete and Alicia mentions. But there is still ep to ep inconsistencies which I find odd. But I'm used to it by now. I'm not really looking forward to Cyborg probably becuase I dont read teen titans and therefore dont know too much about him. Plus he's not in the JLA with Superman so I dont really care about him on Smallville. And Yes I know Bart isnt in the JLA either and at the time I wanted them to have Wally instead but the ep rocked regardless, so we'll see.

MrSullivan
02-10-2006, 01:24 PM
I thought this episode was going to be great, one of my favourite of the whole series.. but I was wrong. I didn't like it so much.. but Allison was great, she gave her best performance ever! And I loved the vary last scene, so emotional!

clark25
02-10-2006, 01:37 PM
This episode turned out perty good and
Alision Mack was at her best preformace
during the epy she like Tom has come
a loong way since S1 of SV.Anywho this
episode was also a little creepy to and
to I can see the rift starting to really form
in Lex and Clark's so called friendshipAnd
in all this was a great epy

Chloe fan1988
02-10-2006, 02:14 PM
I feel sorry for Allison; she gave a PHENOMENAL performance in an episode that will probably be forgotten. The script was filled with plot holes and useless scenes (i.e. the Clana moment near the end which totally did not belong in the episode). The scenes with Martha and Clark and Martha and Lionel were terrific, but then again anything with AOT is golden. We finally got some progression on the whole Chloe and her mom storyline which was probably the best part. ED was rather nice in this episode too. I want to praise Allison's performance again: she played paranoia, hysteria, possession, worry, joy, and sadness all in one episode--and perfectly too!

Fly by guy
02-10-2006, 02:29 PM
Just another showcase of Allison's obvious talent. Otherwise, the show was tired and predictable. Bad.

Steelegrave
02-10-2006, 03:28 PM
Wow you guys are generous. This was by far the worst plotted worst written episode in Smallville's history. While I do like Chloe-centered stories this vehicle was so utterly useless as to be insulting to AM and us the fans. Whoever wrote this episode has as much business writing stories as I do playing professional basketball. They should be strung up for this garbage.

The plot was completely disjointed, it felt like a 10yr old wrote it. If I were new to the show I'd be gone. If SV picked up any new viewers this week I'm sure they ARE gone.

Just a few examples of how badly contrived the plot was:

1)Lois having just excused a creepy intruder makes sure to immedately turn her back on the door for convenient cloriforming. They've made Lois out to be badass karate girl and then she does something stupid like completely obscuring her view of the door when a creep, who she's calling the cops about, just left.

2) Possesed Chloe so intent on revenge immediately leaves the not very injured psycho to check on a voice she hears from another room, a voice belonging to a person she doesn't know and who doesn't seem to be in that much danger.

3) What happened to the Kryptonite bracelet that incapacitated Clark? Did it just evaporate?

I could go on and on.

Really I'm disappointed in all of you who say you loved this episode. This is why the creators have gotten so lazy. They feed us a horrible show that just happens to center on a favorite character and all of the sudden it's the greatest show ever made because Chloe went to see her mom. By supporting this schlock we give them license to create more crap.

Sure the acting was adequate but we should expect that in a series in its 5th season. The actors should have there characters down pat after playing them so long.

Worst episode I've ever watched! Period!

jimmyolsenblues
02-10-2006, 03:42 PM
One of the 10 worst episodes ever of smallville.
I was very disappointed.
What is the deal with the bad B movie plot?
We all saw ghost , obviously so did the writers.
Copy and paste plot line.

Daydreamer731
02-10-2006, 03:52 PM
I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is how important this episode will ultimately be to the character development. It's a lot of people facing their fears.

Chloe's been afraid of mental illness since she found out about her mother.

Clark is forced to face something that he really can't protect Chloe from.

Same with Lois. Also, in finding out about Chloe's mother, she's forced to face the possibility of that weakness in herself.

Martha is reaffirming her own identity now that Jonathan is gone. For a long time she's wanted something of her own away from the farm, now she can have it, but that brings into the picture the question of loyalty.

Lex faces his own history with mental illness, and the fact that he's now forced to choose between Lana and Clark.

Lana, likewise, is caught in the middle. Also, she has to realize, not for the first time, that her idea of helping people may not always be for the best.

So yes. There were plotholes. Yes, there were things that arguably could've been done better. But I really don't think it's a fair argument to call this episode "just filler" or "totally forgettable." This show is about how things got to be the way they are. Character development is as much a part of that as plot.

Snarky
02-10-2006, 03:54 PM
I was a bit disappointed with the episode. The viewer was required to suspend disbelief a little too often. It was a choppy and forced in parts. Martha almost acted a little too ditzy-vulnerable with Lionel. It didn't seem quite true to Martha's character.

Lana's presence in the episode was unneccessary and as irritiating as fingernails on a chalkboard. :rolleyes:

Allison Mack's performance continues to outshine the cast of Smallville. No matter what material she's given to work with, she sells it well. She did an excellent job tonight. It was nice to see the brief snark between Lois and Clark again and the warm moment with Martha.

Lex is creepily delightful as always although the Lexana is going to get old if the writer's keep portraing Lana a clingy, needy chick. Lex has always liked strong, confident, fiesty women. He's going to get sick of her like the rest of us if they don't improve the character.

All in all this episode was a C. It was well-acted, but a little dark and choppy for full entertainment value. The continuity issues abounded throughout and detracted from the overall storyline. Seriously, writers make yourselves a timeline or something so you remember the key events so we get a little continuity. :\

attitudejc
02-10-2006, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Daydreamer731
I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is how important this episode will ultimately be to the character development. It's a lot of people facing their fears.

Chloe's been afraid of mental illness since she found out about her mother.

Clark is forced to face something that he really can't protect Chloe from.

Same with Lois. Also, in finding out about Chloe's mother, she's forced to face the possibility of that weakness in herself.

Martha is reaffirming her own identity now that Jonathan is gone. For a long time she's wanted something of her own away from the farm, now she can have it, but that brings into the picture the question of loyalty.

Lex faces his own history with mental illness, and the fact that he's now forced to choose between Lana and Clark.

Lana, likewise, is caught in the middle. Also, she has to realize, not for the first time, that her idea of helping people may not always be for the best.

So yes. There were plotholes. Yes, there were things that arguably could've been done better. But I really don't think it's a fair argument to call this episode "just filler" or "totally forgettable." This show is about how things got to be the way they are. Character development is as much a part of that as plot.

exactly. it was huge for future episodes. so much was revealed to the character and to the audience.

vyperman7
02-10-2006, 04:36 PM
This episode was not one of my favorites. The only thing this episode did for me was show once again what an awesome actress Allison Mack is. Even with a crappy script and plot, she can still turn in one hell of a performance. The only thing I really liked about this episode besides AM's performance was the ending with Chloe and her mom. Even though the episode wasn't that great, it was cool to see them having some continuity. This was one of the only episodes of S5 I haven't liked. I guess why I disliked this episode so much is because the plot is just so out of left field. I think the writers just need to stick to developing Clark and Lex and they will be fine. Get rid of these off the wall storylines.

Old Juan
02-10-2006, 04:45 PM
I have to agree that this episode left a lot more to be desired and its an absolute shame because AM rocked the house in acting. I can't stress enough how awesome she was, in fact her performance was really the only thing that made this episode remotely palpatable IMO. The actress deserved better, the character deserved better.

Liriel
02-10-2006, 05:27 PM
Is there any way you can get ahold of original scripts for this show (I know you can for some older shows). I'd be curious to see how much was changed.

Naman is 1#
02-10-2006, 05:40 PM
Worst episode of the season by far. The possessed thing is not for smallville. Leave that for the show Supernatural, but you will see alot of the Chloe fans stand-up and applaud for this one I guess its good one for them :rolleyes: But for me boring,boring,boring.

Steelegrave
02-10-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Daydreamer731
I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is how important this episode will ultimately be to the character development. It's a lot of people facing their fears.

Chloe's been afraid of mental illness since she found out about her mother.

Clark is forced to face something that he really can't protect Chloe from.

Same with Lois. Also, in finding out about Chloe's mother, she's forced to face the possibility of that weakness in herself.

Martha is reaffirming her own identity now that Jonathan is gone. For a long time she's wanted something of her own away from the farm, now she can have it, but that brings into the picture the question of loyalty.

Lex faces his own history with mental illness, and the fact that he's now forced to choose between Lana and Clark.

Lana, likewise, is caught in the middle. Also, she has to realize, not for the first time, that her idea of helping people may not always be for the best.

So yes. There were plotholes. Yes, there were things that arguably could've been done better. But I really don't think it's a fair argument to call this episode "just filler" or "totally forgettable." This show is about how things got to be the way they are. Character development is as much a part of that as plot.
That is a huge stretch. You could find those things in any episode if you dig to China. Good effort at trying to make a rediculous episode seem important though.

Chloe fan1988
02-10-2006, 06:18 PM
I can understand the beefs that some people have with this episode (believe me I have plenty of them), but how could one call this the worst episode of season five? 'Tomb' had so much in terms of character development, which other episodes from this season lacked.

Naman is 1#
02-10-2006, 06:54 PM
and just what character developed? Chloe? Her character didnt need to be possessed. I thought even the ep."spell" was better.

zebrok
02-10-2006, 07:11 PM
Tomb is one more reason why the Superhero Hag should have been the one to bite the bullet in Reckoning. That was the worst episode to date. Up till last night, I never thought there was a bad episode of Smallville. There was nothing scary about the episode, nothing of importance really happened and the show had so little to do with Clark that it seemed like an episode of the Chloe chronicles....which is just a bad thing.

It seemed to me that even TPTB knew it was a stinker so they went out and got a Chloe mom wig, threw it on some extra and tried to have at least something happen in the episode. So intstead of people refering to it as that bad horror ep, it becomes the one where Chloe sees her mom. If they had truly been interested in bringing Chloe's mom into things, they would have actually cast an actress and shown her face. The way they did it was a throw in, so they can really cast her mom at a later date if they ever get serious about the subject.

bobser
02-10-2006, 07:23 PM
I'm a little underwhelmed by Tomb. While Allison and Ericas acting was good, the plot left me going "Why?". I was baited into thinking this season would focus on advancing Clark within the Superman mythos. If the writers are paying attention, it seems this is exactly what gets ratings...not knock off episoded irrelevant to Clarks future.

The concept behind the episode was ok and a little bit of a change of pace, but more relavent things perhaps could have been tied in. They can have their cake and eat it too so to speak.

If an episode centered on Mack and an entirely new creative direction is desired, fine. At least have a subplot dealing with elements of the Superman mythos. Don't relegate Clark to being cannon fodder for kryptonite. It's an old tactic and in my humble opinion, hurts opinion of the show.

Also, I got a tad upset by emo Clark. There should be an imposed limit on how many times the writers can make Clark stare with a hurt look in the big blues. It's like, add some anger or ice to that stare sometimes kid. They are writing young Supes a bit too wimpy.

Liriel
02-10-2006, 07:34 PM
I enjoyed this ep. I do not think it took great strides in character development. It was not Chloe-centric, but Gretchen-centric.

It did have plot holes. But it was a solid FOTW episode with enough character introspection to make it interesting.

Deana
02-10-2006, 07:55 PM
OMG, did I actually see Clark doing research on his own? Thank goodness! I'm tired of the hand holding for the man of steel.
Seeing Lois and Chloe together is always a pleasure. I love the cousins.

Okay episode could've been much better! :\

MuchaLana
02-10-2006, 11:22 PM
this is the first episode that stunk for me...the episode with the freaky little girl that likes bunny was spookier...i think it is called accelerate.

it's too bad, becuase AM kicked the ass in this episode.

like someone in the forum said...there was hints about brainiac...those are the only few things i enjoyed

the next episode looks interesting...i have no clue who this cyborg is...i thought it was pete at first. Lana you crashed into pete!!! :rotfl:

Kryptomaniac
02-11-2006, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Old Juan
I have to agree that this episode left a lot more to be desired and its an absolute shame because AM rocked the house in acting. I can't stress enough how awesome she was, in fact her performance was really the only thing that made this episode remotely palpatable IMO. The actress deserved better, the character deserved better.

How many times can the characters be possessed and possessed and re-re-possessed?:confused:

(Insert big raspberry here...)

Maybe next week we'll finally get something original or maybe Cyborg will be possessed, too? Or maybe he'll be a crooked/rogue cop? THAT'S never been done on SMALLVILLE before!:rolleyes: :p

Rating 2 out of 5. Minus 3 because Shelby (who was probably possessed by a dead poodle and couldn't guard) actually let Lionel INSIDE the house this time. Bad Shelby! Bad dog!:\

superpyscho
02-12-2006, 03:53 PM
Great, but not your usual, Smallville Episode. Clark's powers being used was rare. This show had a very dark tone.
I give it a 8/10. Originally I would have only given it a 7.5 but it had good family scenes.


Good
The dark and stormy night first shot and scene
Lois's chest
Martha and Lionel's rainy day scene, very sincere with little dialog
Chloe freaking out around the doctor in the hospital
Lois and Clark's scene in front of Chloe passed out, the conversation was funny
Lois kicks ass
This episode should have been the Halloween show, not "Thirst"
Chloe possessed
Scenes in the orderly's basement were really good and believably suspenseful
Good family moment with Martha and Clark
Best and Excellent scene when Clark tell's Chloe she should see her Mom
Chloe visiting her mom
Next episode preview looks awesome!
Bad
Chloe's scream was badly done
****ing acuvue URL
Lana going to Lex for 'help'
Another Kryptonite trinket
Scene with Lois and Orderly was boring
Orderly character was boring.
Lionel macking on Martha
Lex's veritable nonexistence in this episode
Chloe's mom's face hidden.

smallvillereporter27
02-12-2006, 05:14 PM
I thought this episode was "ok" and was pretty much carried by AM's preformance. I LOVE horror movies and shows like Supernatural, so this episode wasn't a total disaster for me. I was annoyed by the fact that kryptonite had to play a factor in this episode, but then again almost everthing weird in Smallville revolves around kryptonite.

Over all a filler episode, but it wasn't a bad filler episode. It gets a 7.5/10 on my scale!

Watching Smallville
02-12-2006, 06:11 PM
I thought this was a typical FOTW episode with some particularly strong good points and some particularly strong bad points.

The good part was the character development. Clark is finally taking off his pink-colored glasses and looking at his relationship with Lana with more mature and objective eyes. He seems more thoughtful and mature overall in this episode. It's a nice development. Lana showed that in times of deep trouble, she will turn to Lex instead of Clark. I think this is a very important benchmark for her. Lex jumps at the chance to spirit Chloe away to Belle Reve, even though he knows what a harmful place it is. He doesn't tell Lana of his experiences there, he simply grabs the opportunity to put Chloe in a position where he might find out Clark's secret. And Chloe confronts her fear of her mother's mental illness -- first by experiencing firsthand what it's like when people think you've lost your grip, and then by visiting her mother at the end of the episode.

What I didin't like was the grisley nature of the tone. Too much Silence of the Lambs, too much Saw. I didn't mind the play off Stir of Echoes, but all in all, I felt the writers had borrowed too much from movies at the expense of the Smallville tone. The serial killer storyline was not worthy of the show.

Last but not least, more kryptonite jewelry. This device is becoming old fast. It's as if TPTB can't give up Lana's necklace. Let it go, guys! :lol:

So I give the episode 3 out of 5 stars.

jimmyolsenblues
02-12-2006, 06:31 PM
I really found this episode to be a bad B movie.
They are going so far away from the core audience they are trying to get slasher movie fans to come watch smallville.
I am sorry, people who love superman are rarely the people who are online opening night at Saw, or the ring.

TomIsMyHomeboy
02-12-2006, 07:20 PM
the episode was great i thought...i got kinda freaked out...and allison and erica were awesome....

k18
02-12-2006, 09:26 PM
This episode was pretty bad. Probably one of the worst episodes this season so far (along with Thirst) but, that's just my opinion.

shadowcat20x
02-12-2006, 11:57 PM
tooo disturbing for me, icky

puddinpiester
02-13-2006, 07:34 AM
testing

testing. having trouble posting.

greggbray
02-13-2006, 07:46 AM
It would have worked as a halloween episode (minute the B story of course), and worked FAR better than Thirst (worst episode of the season, IMO)--but airing this particular alpha story--their take on stir of echoes--is a bit strange. It doesn't really fit given what the past few weeks have been dealing with.

Fanatic, Lockdown, Reckoning, and Vengence all had to do with how JK's story came to an end, and with the senate seat. This episode felt somewhat out of left field.

puddinpiester
02-13-2006, 07:48 AM
I did not like this epesode the first time I watched it. I found some extra time, got myself a hot cup of coffee, and sat down and watched it again. I had no expectations, just wanted to enjoy my coffee. However, I was pleasantly surprised. Not having expectations or anticipation, I was able to notice things I failed to notice the first time I watched it. I noticed growth in Clark. When Lana came to the barn, he stood his ground. Her comment about not being able to talk to him did not seem to phase him. He called her on the fact that she went to Lex for help before she went to him. Her only response was an attack on his behavior. Even her "I love you..I love you with all my heart" diversion did not cause him to cave in to her. Normally, he swallows any pride he might have and apologizes for anything and everything he thinks Lana might be upset about. Not this time. He simply let her walk away from the barn and away from the relationship. Not that he doesn't love her. He just has a new perspective. He is less Lanatized. How he stepped up to help his mom get on with her life made him look mature. He was supportive and encouraging to her. This was adult behavior. The conversation at the end with Chloe was an adult conversation and he offered mature advice. A also noticed just what a good job AM did going from normal Chloe, to crazy Chloe, to possessed Chloe all in a matter of moments. Lex's weaselness showed through loud and clear. Lex really enjoyed throwing in Clark's face the fact that Lana came to him for help before she went to Clark. Clark noticed it too. And the look on Clark's face when he caught Lana and Lex outside her dorm room. That look showed the hurt, disappointment, betrayal, and anger that he felt. It also showed his resolve to do what he thought was best for Chloe regardless of what Lex or Lana thought. This is maturity. I think this epi showed character development and opened up the door for future plotlines. I like it much better than Aqua or thirst. I discovered, on second viewing, that I really liked the epi.

drwood
02-13-2006, 01:08 PM
Worst episode of the season BY FAR!!!...definitely not in Aqua's league or even in Thirst's.

Thankfully, Cyborg should save the day next week.

JerryKing
02-13-2006, 02:08 PM
Mmm, so that's where it is now: open stealing of one of the Ten Most Often Overused and Recycled "Plots", refried by Hollywood about 200 times since "Twilight Zone" - most recently in, I believe, "Stir of Echoes".


Furthermore, it was yet another utterly pointless, empty and utterly useless episode after "Lex's Christmas" - I will never use its cretinous "actual" title - 40 minutes of absolute nothingness, followed by 15 seconds of the actual reason why it was aired. If this is the latest "trend" there, then the Smallville formula should be changed to those "15-second dramas" from Futurama. Admittedly, of course, Futurama's "It turns out it's man!" conclusion is much better than "It turns out Lex will do anything illegal to win!" or "It turns out Sullivan visits her mother!" (begging the question... just how did she afford all those luxurious vehicles and equipment without even having parents?).

CallMeClark
02-13-2006, 03:48 PM
I loved it! I thought it was very good and had a good backstory. It opens or closes, we really cannot tell, a door for a Chloe/Mother episodes in the future. I give it 4/5 stars. No way is it even comparable to "Thirst."

j-kent
02-13-2006, 04:50 PM
its was pretty cool...something different for developing on other characters more to stray away the focus on clark for once...

LanaandPete
02-13-2006, 07:26 PM
I thought this honestly was a horrible episode. The placement of it in the series is really off.

F-Stop Blues
02-13-2006, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by LanaandPete
I thought this honestly was a horrible episode. The placement of it in the series is really off.


I agree, this ep should have aired mid to late season 4 after scare.

CallMeClark
02-14-2006, 06:09 AM
I disagree. You are making it seem worse than it actually was. What was so horrible about it?

Samiosam
02-14-2006, 12:06 PM
I loved it!!!!!!!!!!!! great epsiode I would say=)

Clark Kent 86
02-14-2006, 10:02 PM
I enjoyed it.

Sweetie
02-15-2006, 09:50 AM
Good episode.I love the Chlark's moment.It was great to see Clark helping Chloé get out of there despit,what everyone else was saying and how he was looking through the wall for clues to prouve that his friend wasn't crazy.

Clana will never be the same again.Now that Clark & Lana can't be honest with each other,I think that now it's time for both of them to move on and go explore new horizons.

-|loner|-
02-15-2006, 05:17 PM
hated the episode.

loved the chloe acting.

CallMeClark
02-16-2006, 06:05 AM
I think they need to call it quits, Clark and Lana. Everyone assumed they were broken up in Reckoning...

adam_n_me
02-16-2006, 02:54 PM
it was not one of my favorites...i scare easily so i had to tape it and hit fast foward whenever one of the scenes was getting too intense. but i thought the acting was top notch and the story was interesting.

ms.c.
02-16-2006, 05:15 PM
The episode was mediocre, but Allison Mack was phenomenal as both Chloe and Gretchen. It's too bad they didn't concentrate more on Chloe and her mom and that issue. I wish they had let us know more about Chloe's mom. They really didn't give any new information out about her. That would have made the episode more interesting to me. Otherwise it was just another FOTW episode.

RockGod815
02-17-2006, 07:06 PM
This was a great episode. I thought it was very interesting and i'm happy that AM finally got an episode centering around her for once this season. Awsome acting!

TheKents
02-18-2006, 10:16 AM
To be honest i loved it, I thought it was one of the best episodes this season. it was kinda creepy and all that.. But still i loved it.. Some old fashion smallville and the scene in the end almost made me cry!

Dean_19
02-18-2006, 01:56 PM
Didn't like it too much. Good acting by Alison, but get back to the main story!!

President_Luthor
02-21-2006, 09:10 PM
It was a darker episode, and it was probably necessary for Chloe's own character development ie some resolution about her estranged relationship with her mom.

As others have said, the plot was derivative and I've seen such plots on X-Files before. AM proves once again that she's got the acting chops, and that psycho orderly was believably nutty.

Did the plot have much to do with Clark's destiny? Not really, but it was intended to further Chloe's own development -- since she's only been a garnish in many of the previous Clark's-not-gettin'-any/lying-to-Lana themed eps.

I enjoyed Lex's quips re: Clark yet again showing questionable judgment by talking the talk but rarely walking it. Thankfully Lana doesn't put up with Clark's sanctimonious habits as much now.

It's good to see that Clark does truly care for a friend like Chloe - but the guy seems to have selective memory about what his friends have done for him *cough* Pete Ross *cough, gets off soapbox*.

And Martha is going to take JK's senate seat -- how cool is that! With Lionel lurking in the shadows, that could be the coolest subplot this season.

Kira
01-17-2007, 07:16 AM
It was creepy and dark but it became one of my favorite episodes and it all focused on Chloe. It was sweet Clark worrying about his best friend and only one believing she wasn't crazy.
But wonderful touching moment between Chloe and her mother made me cry silently and happy. And I mean literally.

126TCYGA
01-24-2007, 02:40 PM
I thought this episode was great for Chole and Lois, I enjoy when they have an episode together but I think putting this episode into 2 episodes would have made it better and given writers a chance to make it more thrilling. It did come out of nowhere, but it was something different and out of a comic book. Not to mention to allow for the other out of place characters to make sense in this episode and to put in more information about Chole's mom. Also anyone find it crazy how ED's arm looks in the last bit where she is being kidnapped? It looked crazy how her body was limp and then her arm jacks itself out to her legs. Just a weird shot they kept I guess. Also who's card was she calling, right before her attack? You would have thought she would have called Clark since he found the body.

KryptonX81
01-28-2007, 04:54 PM
Was there a power outage in Smallville or something during this episode?

Its almost a shock rewatching season 1 and realizing that this was the same show.

This episode wasnt smallville at all. I hated it.

thorshammer
04-23-2007, 11:40 AM
I liked it. Loved the occult/supernatural twist to it.

ledzepfan23
01-04-2009, 05:45 PM
not a good episode. why did this come after reckoning and vengeance? makes no sense

Nimkong
02-28-2010, 06:38 PM
This episode sucked big time.I only like the ending when chloe visted her mom.The plot was weak and it dident seem like smallville..more like supernatrual

SGuthrie27
08-22-2010, 01:50 PM
This episode was waaaaaaay too dark for me. I actually only watched this episode in its entirety for the first time yesterday, and it was incredibly creepy. That guy really was scary just to look at. Who would want him as an orderly at a hospital?! It was another possession plot, and we've had our fair share of those already, but that did allow Allison to show more of her amazing acting chops. I really have to give her kudos for a job well done in her switches from how she acted as Chloe compared to what she was like when Gretchen was in control. Lois had some really great moments in this episode, too, which I hadn't known about, and I loved how protective Clark was of Chloe, and how he wanted to believe her, and helped unravel the mystery behind who the murderer was, pretty much all by himself! I wonder why they deleted that poor new sheriff's scene... I think he obviously was meant to be a recurring character and perhaps to have some sort of budding romance with Lois, but they decided to scratch that storyline for some odd reason... I guess, just because it has so much Chloe in it, I'll give it 4 straitjackets out of 10, but the score would be WAY lower if it wasn't Chloe-centric, and a bit higher if they'd kept in the "You're my hero" deleted scene in the actual episode airing.

bennyjr123
08-22-2010, 05:41 PM
Just doubling back to when this episode first came on (before I knew what a forum was and just watched the episodes happily without being addicted to reading other peoples opions lol)

I remembered I taped it and it said "viewer discretion is advised" and I was afraid to watch the episode (i was 11). I made my sister watch it with me and it is one of my very favorite episodes to date. It's so creepy, and so out there and when AM screams "mikey" it feels like you're watching another show, but it also feels real. It's one of those only moments in smallville when you fear one of the characters might actually be in danger...because in most episodes you know they'll end up fine.

10 out of 10!!!

BelleReveGirl
02-08-2011, 01:39 PM
I always love when Chloe has her shining moments. I feel she is always left. She deserves to have her moments! :)