General Season 4 Discussion

[Chiriru]

Discuss season 4 (for good or bad) here. :)

[greggbray]

Wow, the ENTIRE season? :) I thought it was ultimately average, which is a shame. The first 3 seasons were just incredible. My favorite is Season 3, it beats Season 2 by a hair. I remember the first time I saw Memoria, my jaw dropped. I couldn't believe they outdid 'Rosetta.' Season 4 had that entire witch subplot, which was played for comedy, at times (ie--Spell) and just didn't work at all. The Teagues made no sense whatsoever. I was just happy to see the subplot die at the end of Season 4.

There were, however, some wonderful episodes. I LOVED Crusade, Run, Transference, Jinx (I don't care they augmented the Mxy character--I was never big on the character in any incarnation), Onyx, Krypto, Blank, and Commencement. I thought those 7 episodes were really solid.

What bothered me was simply this--the quest for the stones should have been a real world wide quest, that took Clark all over the world. There should never have been a witch subplot, rather a story that involved Lana on a different level. Maybe Jason going all over the world, too, and Lana working with Jason at first.

I don't know. The Lex Desert sequence in Crusade felt like it was really setting up for something great, only to be taken down by Isobel and the Teagues.

The best part of Season 4, over all, was the introduction of Lois. :)

[k18]

Originally posted by greggbray
The best part of Season 4, over all, was the introduction of Lois. :)

Second that! :D

[vyperman7]

Season four was a mixed bag. The way that it started made me think it would be the best season yet, and it ultimately went downhill starting with Spell. The season started out really great with Crusade, Devoted (yes I loved it), Run, Transference, and Jinx. Then bleh.. There were still some good ones in there with Commencement, Onyx, Recruit, Krypto, and Blank. But it definately had the least amount of good episodes overall.

[k18]

I thought of it more of a fun season than anything else. I enjoyed Spell (probably the only one who did) and there were others that were ok like Scare, Pariah, Sacred, Spirit, and Forever.

[OutlawAngel]

I enjoyed Spell aswell. It was a Halloween episode so it wasnt going to be anything big. It was fun and is espechally fun to watch the commentaries on the dvd.

[red-K glory]

overall i was disappointed with season 4. i had high expectations for it and it turned out to be my least favorite season. there were some good episodes like run,transference,scare,onyx,spirit,blank. fair episodes like crusade,facade,devoted,jinx,unsafe,pariah,recruit, krypto,gone, and commencement
and the terrible episodes were spell,bound,sacred,lucy,ageless,forever
i have to admit that watching them again on DVD, i like S4 a little better but it is still my least favorite season.

[Jellie]

Originally posted by k18
I thought of it more of a fun season than anything else. I enjoyed Spell (probably the only one who did) and there were others that were ok like Scare, Pariah, Sacred, Spirit, and Forever.

I loved spell. I thought it was brilliant

[Watching Smallville]

For me, Season 4 was uneven. I agree that the introduction of Lios was a bright spot in the season. But I've been spoiled by Season 3. There were three story arcs for that season, each very well defined, well developed, and interesting. Season 4 didin't measure up afer that. We had the Lana is possessed by a witch arc, which was a season-long, rather painful arc, IMO. We had Lex's search for the stones -- another season-long arc and an interesting enough idea, but handled in a very fragmented way. I completely agree with greggbray that we were set up for something really special w/ Lex in Crusade, and it just dropped into the plot abyss.

And for the life of me, I don't know what Clark's story arc was :confused: unless it was the journey toward his destiny, ending w/ the FOS. But that's the theme of the whole series. I guess I missed it, so anyone who knows what it was, please fill me in. :)

I also thought there were too many silly, IMO wasted, episodes: Devoted, Visage, Ageless, Lucy, Bound, Forever. In contrast, there were also some of Smallville's best ever episodes: Trasference, Run, Blank, Onyx. And I was happy to see Alicia return -- sorry to see her killed off -- and Krypto and Spirit were really fun.

I just had the feeling this season was thrown together, not mapped out and carefully crafted like Season 3. It didn't have the same cohesion, the same through lines. I think SV could have done better, could have done more with the themes it was working with. Overall, I give the season a B minus.

I'd love to hear a different take. Anyone have a more positive reaction?

[MyOwnSuperhero]

Season Four reminded me a lot of how I bowl. My bowling consists of two parts - exceptionally beautiful strikes and spares and lame ass gutterballs. There is no middle ground. That was the problem with this entire season. They managed to pull out some of the best work in television. This incredible excellence was horribly contrasted against some really lame episodes, poorly conceived and poorly executed storylines, and more of the mediocre acting we saw in seasons one and two.

[Metropolis Hero]

Overall my least favorite season. It had some great episodes but alot of stinkers as well. The whole Lana/Witch/Stone arc just didn't do it for me. I loved the introduction of Lois and thought the character of Jason Teague was refreshing from Lana's other boyfriends, but after the first half of the season Jason's character turned blah IMO. My favorite episodes from this season....Run, Transference, Blank, Commencement and yes Devoted (Thought it was funny :) )

[OutlawAngel]

my one problem with 4 was there was no consistency, no overall story line that ran from episode 1 all the was to the season finale. It was like everything was just there till Commencment which started off season 5. But it was like everything inbetween wasnt of any importance and the witch story line was just put in there so there would be something going on.

And Ageless had to of been the worst hour of television in the history of televsion. I get embarassed when I watcht that episode and I only watch it alone :lol:

[greggbray]

From what I understand, TPTB (I forget where I read this, it could have been mere fan speculation, so don't take this as gospel--but this theory makes sense) had a season 4 all set up, and had Ms. Teague come on, to create a subplot with Margot Kidder, Jane Seymour, and Christopher Reeve. The stones would have revolved more around those characters than the Teagues. With Reeve's death, and Kidder's subsequent decline to appear in the program, they were left scrambling. Quickly fabricated scripts to fill the void.

Whether or not this is true, I can't say for sure. But it's an interesting theory--ie, note that most of the WORST episodes (except for, IMO and no offense, Spell) took place in the 2nd half of the season.

[OutlawAngel]

Yeah that would make sense. I never understood why Bridgette Crosby got killed off in Spirit anyway. I have watched this season over and over and still cant figure that one out.

[vyperman7]

How many good episodes were there in this season? Not nearly as many as there have been in other seasons.

There were probably only 10 episodes I liked :

Run
Transference
Crusade
Jinx
Onyx
Commencement
Devoted
Blank
Recruit
Krypto

Now since there were 22 episodes in season 4, that is less than a 50% success rating. Now the reason this is the most upsetting to me, is because if I were to add the number of episodes I disliked from seasons 1-3, it would come out to less than the amount of crappy episodes in S4. It is pretty bad when one season puts together more bad episodes, than the previous three combined.

[TW1977]

I like the interaction between Clark and Lois. It's funny to see Clark so annoyed by her. It shows another side to his "reserved" emotions. Opps do attract! ;)

The beginning with Jason was good too since you can just have so much tension between Clark and Lana before you want to gag. I think that's why I like the Clalicia episodes so well since Clark can get a little or a LOT wild! Those passionate kisses just make me melt!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Clark and Lois held pretty strong for starters and that really worked for the show in the long run. My main dileema with this particular year was the Witch and Teague arcs.

[F-Stop Blues]

It was a very uneven season. It had good eps, like Crusade, Run, and Transference. But it also had really awful ones like Bound, Forever, and the absolute worst episode in the history of Smallville.....Ageless.


I was upset about what happened to the Jason character. I really liked him in the begining of the season. His character was charming and really funny. He was such a better boyfriend for Clark. But for some reason every boyfriend Lana has that isnt Clark turns out to be a psycho. I would have much rather preferred Jason dying to protect Lana from his mother. But sadly that wasnt how it ended.

Imo the Lois Clark relationship was the best part of the season.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Jason did have serious potential, I felt like they mixed him up way too much and kept him unfocused for the biggest part of that year and did what they wanted after the fact.

[F-Stop Blues]

Also all of a sudden he was in cohoots with his mom. It was out of nowhere. He was such a good character in the begining. Its really a shame.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

They really nailed the inconsistent character development that year. So far this year isn't looking that much better if you ask me.

[F-Stop Blues]

I do agree about the character development this year but I do think that the episodes as a whole are better.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

My problem is they've been slacking on it and now, they attempt to repair it. They still have continuity issues and inconsistencies running throughout this year.

[F-Stop Blues]

I think the main problem is still the Clark Lana relationship. It makes both of them look terrible. I mean has Clark prgressed at all since season 1? I dont think so and I think thats because he's still obsessed with Lana. Lana is the same way. None of them can grow up until they get over each other.

I dont mean to get into a shipper war becuase thats not what I'm about but I really think its one of the problems with the show.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I agree, F-Stop.

Shipper wise as I'm a Femme Slash fan, Lexana works for me since AlMiles have relegated us fans to that level with Clana at least in my opinion, Jonathon/Lois and others. That's one of my sections these days.

Honestly, the ships don't matter that much to me but I want to move forward with the characters.

[F-Stop Blues]

I really dont get why tptb insist of having their relationsip be the driving force of the show. I'm really all for Lexana now too. Hopefully it will somehow make the characters move on.

[MyOwnSuperhero]

I have a theory about why S4 was so dang uneven.

I think that the season was set up to be a stop gap if the show was cancelled. By using a seasonal arc that introduced the FOS at the end of the season, it provided a semi decent ending for the show if it wasn't renewed. With HS graduation, the FOS and Lex in the dominant Luthor role, it was all half way set up. Mid season, they finally learn that they've got another season, so they continued on as previously planned. That's why season 3 was great and season 5 has been great, but 4 was choppy and inconsistent - they didn't know where they were going and they weren't sure if it would go any further.

[uncsuperman]

i don't understand how anyone can be a fan of Lexana - it's just creepy and makes no sense - sorry

if you want to stop all the Clana angst.....fine, i understand. but please, either have Lana go her own way, or bring another male character onto the show for her to cling to. But Lex??? Come on - that's a pathetically easy out for the writers.

anyway.......sorry for the rant, but here's my original issue with this season.

has anyone found out how the whole Countess storyline fits into the Superman myth?? Or does it??

i'm rewatching season 4 right now, and for the life of me, cannot figure out why Lana was inhabited, what it has to do with Clark, and where that story came from?

any insights?

[OutlawAngel]

The Lana/witch thing was put in because the writters wanted Lana to be a part of the story instead of just repeating her same 'lieth and secreth' lines over and over and bloody over. I would much rather take with Lana than whiney Lana any day.

That is why I do like Lexana we dont have the same speech she gives to Clark that she has gave him the last 5 years. Being iwth Lex will make her part of the story without being as forced in as she was in season 4.

The Lana/Clark angst was fine in the first 2 saeasons but now its just repetative and old

[uncsuperman]

yea, the angst is old, i agree

and i understand the need to make Lana part of the story

however, simply allowing Clark and Lana to be together would achieve that

another idea would be to have Chloe somehow slip to Lana, or rather, purposefully tell Lana about Clark's secret, about what happened in Reckoning

you could either have Lana come to Clark about it, telling him it's okay, and their relationship would grow, not necessarily romantically. or you could have Lana secretly know about Clark, like Chloe did last season, and simply look out for him, etc.

either way, it's WAAY more believable than having Lana be with Lex, romantically. it's just soooo frickin implausible to me, i'm sorry.

[OutlawAngel]

*shrug* we all have our ships and then the ships we dont even want to think about.

But I agre letting Lana know what happend durirng Reckoning and letting her know about Clark would be a good way to bring Lana more into the story. And people who are all into the mytho comic books I am sure wouldnt mind her knowing anyway since in the comics she does know that he is Superman.

But I think the writters have been wanting to do a Clark/Lana/Lex triangle since the begining but never have because of age differences.

[uncsuperman]

oh definitely - there's always been this creepy vibe coming from lex about Lana.....well maybe not right at the beginning, but soon after

i guess they'll do what they wanna do - Lexana just really seems out of the blue to me. not from Lex's end of the deal, but from Lana's

[Rize Above]

Like someone said earlier, it would have been wicked cool if they had juxtaposed the local happenings in Smallville with a season-long, pan-global, artifact search.

I think one of the reasons the Witch storyline stunk was because magic doesn't vibe well with the series's pseudo-scientific tone. Plus, superpowers no longer seem special when they can be outdone by occultic practices.

[maryjanewatson]

i just got done watching this season today, and i have to say i was really dissapointed with it. while in other seasons i found myself getting overly excited about all the episodes, and this one i was just bored or irritated with the episodes. the whole lana/isabelle possesion thing was ridiculously stupid in my opinion. and I hate lois lane with a passion. seriously. She got on my nerves SO MUCH! and so did lana in this season, but still not as much a lois. so annoying. and clarks whole relationship with alicia? what the crap was that?! Clark is smarter than to get involved with her again. she was a psycopath.

and another thing that bothered me was the fact that pete was not mentioned once in this season! It's like he never even exsisted! ugh, that really irked me.

[OutlawAngel]

Lana really didnt get on my nerves this season. I actually found myself liking her this season but I think that might of been because she had Jason and she wasnt quite on her 'lieth/secreteth' pulpit in this season.

[smallville12]

I really liked this season. yeah the witch thing was really bad but it was still a good season. it had 14 good ep. and the rest were good and some ok(ageless,facade,spell,bound,spirit,and scare were the bad ones.) lucy,devoted,sacred, and forever were ok but not good enough for the great list and not bad enough for the bad list. my favs are Cusade,Run Gone and comensment (sorry I can't spell). so all in all I say it was a good season (season 5 is the best so far with season 1 the worst)

Oh and Transference is also one of my favs (and I ment Commencement above)

[UpandAtom]

The season started out strong and ended strong. Everything in the middle was weak. Offhand, I hand only name a few good episodes:

"Run"
"Transference"
"Onyx"

and that's it. But even those episodes didn't contribute much to the overall plot.

[goldylocks_k]

My favourite episode out of the whole season was Transference. I thought it was amazing, particularly Tom Welling and John Glovers acting.

[mikemike]

everyone is talking about how unoriginal the show has been since season 3. I agree, season 5 is unoriginal... im sure it really would have been "all we've ever wanted to see" if the show was to end this season like originally planned, but i guess in a last ditch effort to keep the show running them re-hashed the same old.

season 4 however started out very ambitious... even though the events of season 5 would have occurred right away had martha not used black kryptonite on clark in "crusade", the whole uniting the three stones concept was a great idea. great idea, mediocre execution. they should have had more arc-centric episodes as opposed to filler FOTW episodes, which in my opinion brought the season down. also, they had to re-write plots after christopher reeve's death and margot kidder's boycott. considering everything they faced, the season (well the non-filler episodes) really was quite amazing, albeit a little confusing, and resulted in one of the absolute best season finales in television history. i really didnt even think the witch story arc was that bad, because it gave lana a reason to be on the show. she had more reason then than she does now. plus they introduced the whole magic concept, bringing clark to a new level of vulnerability. i was never a fan of jason, and the writers only added salt to the wound by making him a villain right when i was getting used to his character.

i have an overwhelming feeling that season 5's finale will not be able to live up to that.

-mike

[Smokethatkryptonite]

If theres no Clana for this finale, it will be better then lasts.

[Antithesis]

Why did Margot Kidder boycot? I hadn't heard about it.

[Superhuman]

I think they might have not had plans for any season after 5 but then they decided to...so they started filming "filler" episodes or I could be completely wrong...


and as far as season 4 goes I agree about the whole Jason thing I never was a fan of him but they turned him into a villian....then they kill him off....and then it never even shows Lana or Clark talk about him I mean didnt they find his dead Body in Clarks house or something... and what about Lana killing his Mom and Lex protecting her from all of it? they have never even mentioned any of that stuff in the show I mean come on...

[Pesk]

IMHO smallville just keeps getting better and better. Though s4's season long stones arc seems better than s5's seperate braniac arc, then election arc.

[Timester]

Originally posted by mikemike
season 4 however started out very ambitious... even though the events of season 5 would have occurred right away had martha not used black kryptonite on clark in "crusade", the whole uniting the three stones concept was a great idea. great idea, mediocre execution. they should have had more arc-centric episodes as opposed to filler FOTW episodes, which in my opinion brought the season down. also, they had to re-write plots after christopher reeve's death and margot kidder's boycott. considering everything they faced, the season (well the non-filler episodes) really was quite amazing, albeit a little confusing, and resulted in one of the absolute best season finales in television history. i really didnt even think the witch story arc was that bad, because it gave lana a reason to be on the show. she had more reason then than she does now. plus they introduced the whole magic concept, bringing clark to a new level of vulnerability. i was never a fan of jason, and the writers only added salt to the wound by making him a villain right when i was getting used to his character.

Actually, the witch arc was their plan all along and even with Chris Reeves' death, they had MONTHS to rewrite some parts of the arc. Jason is only one of the many examples of the mess the story became.

Season 4 is due to lazy writing and ratings gimmicks.

[shadowcat20x]

Originally posted by Antithesis
Why did Margot Kidder boycot? I hadn't heard about it.

I think it was because they asked her to come back to Clark and mention that Dr. Swann died and give him the stone, but she felt that it would be tacky and unrespectful towards Reeve.

[Firebunny]

Originally posted by mikemike
season 4 however started out very ambitious...

I didn't get to watch any of Season 4 when it aired, but I read on the boards how lame people thought it was.

I started watching it on DVD and I thought Crusade was great and Transference was amazing, definitely in my top 5 eps. I couldn't believe people felt the season was the worst. As far as I was concerned it was shaping up to be the best.

Then Spell came along and everything went down hill after that. It was all handled really badly. And even though I loved Lois when she was first introduced I think she's now a liability to the show.

[Lois_luver]

Season 4 was my favourite season, it was absolutly fabtastic, it was just amazing, but season 5, i'm not sure, i guess we'll just have to wait and see, i hope its good like the ones in the past.

[goldylocks_k]

I like smallville what ever they do. I'm that obsessed with it:)

[OutlawAngel]

I liked season 4 watching it on dvd but watching it as a weekly tv show I was just sorta bored. It seems like I just now think of it as a really long movie.

I liked it a lot more now than I first did.

[scoobyville]

i agree with goldylocks k i love everything that has to do with smallville, dvd's posters i never miss a episode,, lois is beautiful glad she's part of smallville, and can't wait for season 5 on dvd,,

p.s clois rule!!

[LuthorRequiem2]

I enjoyed this season a lot overall, and it gets better upon subsequent viewings. But I think the consistency could've been better, especially with Lex and Clark's relationship. In "Devoted" it seemed as though they would be trying to be better friends. And they DID...until "Jinx", when Clark acted like Lex was an enemy again at the end, and Lex seemed all evil. Then they went back to being friends. Then somewhere in-between, they acted like enemies, then in "Sacred" it seemed as though they were on the road to enmity by the way they treated each other, then "Lucy" followed I think, and they were back to being best buddies.

Overall, though, the season was terrific. Not the greatness of Season 3, but still, awesome nonethless. I liked Lex's dramatic turn to the dark side, Clark's heroism in "Commencement", and the introduction of Lois, and the fact that Chloe finds out Clark's secret.

[vouge09]

season 4 to everyone was a trainwreck but mabey they say that cause everyone seems to love lana and she grew up this season . Dont get me wrong when I saw her in paris sporting the black I was rubbing my eyes and checking my pulse from shock too but she needed to grow up .... unfourtunatly she got possed and back with clark but thats all done with ....

Mabey it was some of the storylines but I thought the uniting of the three crystals was cool to build the fortress, it wasnt sitting there for him to just make it ....

But I did not like however , clarks lazyness in finding the crystals, Lionel walking free, Clark playing football again ( sorry but he doesnt belong there ...on the feild johnny kent is right) and erica durnace not being a cast in the credits even though she appeared in like 13 out of 22 episodes. Erica isnt the best actress but she deserved her name there .

[timbojill]

What happened to clark's space ship ? From season 4 they stopped talking about it.

[Moonshayde]

Season 4 frustrated me. It started off with a bang, following the continuity from Season 3 and then...meh?

Lois was a fantastic addition. Though, I think they should have just kept her in college. You can bring a character back and still keep them in college. It's not like she was in every single episode.

Many of the episodes were lighthearted. I did appreciate that. The problem is that TOO many episodes were lighthearted. You really need a balance.

What ruined Season 4 and what irked me the most was the Lana/Isobel storyline. TPTB seemed to srcamble to find a way to keep Lana active in the stories and they made the witch thing. Bad, bad idea. I know TPTB wanted to show that Clark is not impervious to magic, but it didn't work. It just didn't work at all.

Along with character inconsistancies, it made for a very uneven season. If they had canned the witch idea, keep the characters consistent and not make Jason OOC, I think Season 4 would have been fantastic and up there with Season 3.

Season 5 I haven't decided on yet. But Season 6 is going strong.

[ceri]

I have just finished watching season 4 and I quite liked it! Im not saying that it was the best of the bunch so far but I liked watching them grow up in this one and I liked the story about the stones. Although the Lana/Isobel storyline was a bit strange but gave some comic moments to the season! Whether it was supposed to or not!

I havent started watching season 5 yet but its on its way to me!

One question - I understand that Isobel was possessing Lana because, 1) she wanted the stones, and 2) she wanted to avenge her death by killing GT, but how come the tattoo disappeared after she killed GT even though she didnt have all the stones? Have i missed something?? However, if this gets answered in season 5, please dont tell me too much!

Im really looking forward to season 5, hopefully it will be awesome!!!!

[RedKryptonClark]

I spent all last week on vacation and watched seasons 1-4 for the first time of SV.

Watching them all in a row I have to say that I LOVED season 4. Why? I seriously can't stand Lana. She's needy and annoying as can be. I know it's my opinion and people love her so please don't crucify me for not loving Lana.

Season 3 I felt was very uneven. The Adam character was very tiring and annoying and the build up to Lionel's liver disease just didn't pay off as a slam dunk. Now the first and last 1/2 of the season were fantastic (Exile and Phoenix anyone?) though there were just a handful of episodes right in the center of the season that were blah.

Season 4 started off w/ a fantastic bang. Crusade has to be one of my favorite episodes - period. Not only did we get to see Clark in all of his *ahem* glory, but we were introduced to Lois and we got to see Kal-El fly. Crusade had my heart pounding from moment one.

The follow-up episodes didn't slow things down at all. Gone and Facade were fantastic.

The intro of Lois really brightened up the show. She's so wacky and wild and completely different than the other girls that she was a great breath of fresh air not only into the show but into Clark. The spark was there from the very beginning and made their episodes an absolute delight to watch.

Transfergence has to be one of my favorite comedic episodes - right up there w/ Perry White. Tom's portrayal of Lionel in his body was spot on perfect and left me squirming between disgust and hysterics throughout the entire episode.

The stones/witch plotline was a bit out there and campy. I do have to say that in some ways I preferred it to season 3's arc because it rather felt like something that would've been written out for a comic book - it really helped to build up for the creation of the Fortress of Solitude. I thought the witches/possessed stuff was a brilliant way of reminding folks that the story was based on comic books and I felt the show really got back to its roots.

Lana finally became interesting when she was possessed. I liked her going Isabelle psycho on everyone, mostly because I just can't stand her when she's mopey and demanding honesty from people. *Blah* she annoys me.

Unsafe and Pariah were wonderful also. I really loved Alicia when we were first introduced to her. I loved how Clark really did love this misunderstood girl who had very little going on in her life. Of course the RedK Vegas scenes were highly memorable. I remember seeing those originally on a fan video and thought "that must be from his movie - there's no way Smallville could be THAT steamy."

I liked the subplot of Chloe knowing Clark's secret and always hinting it to him and his not understanding. I also liked seeing Lex decending and enshrouding himself in lies and secrets - evil Lex was emerging this season.

I also liked the Football stuff w/ Clark and we got to see him be really happy enjoying being a human for a while.

I think the characters (other than Lana) all really grew up this season. Lana seemed to go nowhere this season. The only good thing about her was that w/ her being w/ Jason, Clark wasn't continually moping after her and overly morose.

I also loved Krypto, Onyx, Blank, and Lucy.

Lucy was wonderful w/ Clark's huge flying leap through the air and his seeing Lois in a new light w/ her devotion to her crazy sister. For the first time he sorta understood where her bossiness came from - because she was forced to be a surrogate mother too young and too early in life. And he got to see that she's not entirely selfish. That look he gives her after he tells her that he thinks of her now as a friend spoke volumes.

The only episode that I thought was rather weak was Ageless - I actually fell asleep in it - very boring Lana/Clark stuff. Other than that I really enjoyed the entire season and would watch all of the episodes again w/o a second thought - well except for Ageless.


Originally posted by timbojill
What happened to clark's space ship ? From season 4 they stopped talking about it.

Uh seaon 2 finale - Clark blew it up to try to cut Jor-El out of his life. The explosion of the ship caused Mom to lose her baby and sent Clark off on Red K into Metrolopis trying to ignore his massive feelings of guilt at not thinking through the consequences of his actions. Hence why Clark's turned into Mr. Badass Kal-El hottie in Exile - season 3's opener *fans self*

[Rafael122]

I disagree with Season 4 having more bad episodes than good. The episodes that I didn't like were: Recruit, Krypto, Lucy, Ageless, Scare, and Spell (I would really like to see the outtakes of this episode). That's 6 out of the 22 episodes.

The first 7 episodes of the season were very good (Crusade-Jinx). Unsafe and Pariah were good, and I really wanted Clark to get of that sand guy.

Spirit, Onyx and Blank were good episodes that furthered the main storylines and at the same time have fun (especially in Spirit) and Forever and Comencement were all kinds of awesome. So overall, I would say about 14 of the episodes of the season were pretty good. Still though, the fillers, especially towards the end of the season with Lucy and Ageless were beyond awful and served no purpose.

They could have stretched out the "Chloe is still alive" storyline for a couple of more episodes and still have the proper payoff. The sex in the season I didn't mind because you can kinda relate to them, senior year in high school and all, so that wasn't a big deal.

I'd definitely rank Season 4 towards the bottom though. Had potential but something must have happened after Jinx that the writers decided to go to another direction.

[indylovesmallville]

Originally posted by k18
I thought of it more of a fun season than anything else. I enjoyed Spell (probably the only one who did) and there were others that were ok like Scare, Pariah, Sacred, Spirit, and Forever.


I couldn't wait for Spell and when I saw with my friend Emma I thought it was great and hated the ads.:rotfl:

[DeeperWell]

Originally posted by RedKryptonClark
I spent all last week on vacation and watched seasons 1-4 for the first time of SV.

Watching them all in a row I have to say that I LOVED season 4. Why? I seriously can't stand Lana. She's needy and annoying as can be. I know it's my opinion and people love her so please don't crucify me for not loving Lana.

Season 3 I felt was very uneven. The Adam character was very tiring and annoying and the build up to Lionel's liver disease just didn't pay off as a slam dunk. Now the first and last 1/2 of the season were fantastic (Exile and Phoenix anyone?) though there were just a handful of episodes right in the center of the season that were blah.

Season 4 started off w/ a fantastic bang. Crusade has to be one of my favorite episodes - period. Not only did we get to see Clark in all of his *ahem* glory, but we were introduced to Lois and we got to see Kal-El fly. Crusade had my heart pounding from moment one.

The follow-up episodes didn't slow things down at all. Gone and Facade were fantastic.

The intro of Lois really brightened up the show. She's so wacky and wild and completely different than the other girls that she was a great breath of fresh air not only into the show but into Clark. The spark was there from the very beginning and made their episodes an absolute delight to watch.

Transfergence has to be one of my favorite comedic episodes - right up there w/ Perry White. Tom's portrayal of Lionel in his body was spot on perfect and left me squirming between disgust and hysterics throughout the entire episode.

The stones/witch plotline was a bit out there and campy. I do have to say that in some ways I preferred it to season 3's arc because it rather felt like something that would've been written out for a comic book - it really helped to build up for the creation of the Fortress of Solitude. I thought the witches/possessed stuff was a brilliant way of reminding folks that the story was based on comic books and I felt the show really got back to its roots.

Lana finally became interesting when she was possessed. I liked her going Isabelle psycho on everyone, mostly because I just can't stand her when she's mopey and demanding honesty from people. *Blah* she annoys me.

Unsafe and Pariah were wonderful also. I really loved Alicia when we were first introduced to her. I loved how Clark really did love this misunderstood girl who had very little going on in her life. Of course the RedK Vegas scenes were highly memorable. I remember seeing those originally on a fan video and thought "that must be from his movie - there's no way Smallville could be THAT steamy."

I liked the subplot of Chloe knowing Clark's secret and always hinting it to him and his not understanding. I also liked seeing Lex decending and enshrouding himself in lies and secrets - evil Lex was emerging this season.

I also liked the Football stuff w/ Clark and we got to see him be really happy enjoying being a human for a while.

I think the characters (other than Lana) all really grew up this season. Lana seemed to go nowhere this season. The only good thing about her was that w/ her being w/ Jason, Clark wasn't continually moping after her and overly morose.

I also loved Krypto, Onyx, Blank, and Lucy.

Lucy was wonderful w/ Clark's huge flying leap through the air and his seeing Lois in a new light w/ her devotion to her crazy sister. For the first time he sorta understood where her bossiness came from - because she was forced to be a surrogate mother too young and too early in life. And he got to see that she's not entirely selfish. That look he gives her after he tells her that he thinks of her now as a friend spoke volumes.

The only episode that I thought was rather weak was Ageless - I actually fell asleep in it - very boring Lana/Clark stuff. Other than that I really enjoyed the entire season and would watch all of the episodes again w/o a second thought - well except for Ageless.




I totally agree with your post... I think season 4 is actually pretty great. Introducing Lois was a good decision in my opinion. Though certain episodes ddi feel a tad contrived!

I did watch the first two seasons of Smallville long ago but I lost interest eventually... having heard they had brought in Lois I came back and caught some of season 4. I've been addicted ever since lol.

Overall I prefered this season to season 3, which was kinda dull. And I think Crusade and Commencement are some of the best ever episodes.

[SGuthrie27]

Okay, I'll break down what I thought of Season 4, now. This should be interesting...

CRUSADE
Clark is found naked and amnesiac in a field by none other than Lois Lane, on the hunt for her missing and presumed dead *sniff* cousin, Chloe. Lana gets zapped by a tomb in France and ends up with a Kryptonian tattoo. Jason Teague is introduced as well, and Lex is hunting for the three mysterious Stones of Knowledge. Plus, Margot Kidder, black Kryptonite, Clark FLYING (okay, so it's really Kal-El) and more! Not bad, but not my favorite season premiere either.
8/10

GONE
A Terminator reject who can turn his arms into blades is sent by Lionel to silence "Nellie Bly," who turns out to be none other than the so NOT dead Chloe who escaped the safe house explosion due to Underground Railroad tunnels... in Kansas. Yeah, but wha -- ?!
6/10

FACADE
Kryptonite plastic surgery?! Scabby Abby?!? Lana getting kissed by a girl, which makes her think she's ugly and a mirror fall on her face, putting her in the hospital?!?! Yeah, this episode (and a random appearance of Whitney in a flashback) made no sense to me either. At least Lois got a good scoop on it for the Torch. :p
2/10

DEVOTED
Oh, so cheerleaders can put kryptonite in sports drinks to make men completely head over heels for them? And Chloe sips some and turns into a pom-pom swingin' jersey-wearin' make-out gal for Clark? Can someone say "plot device"?! And Clark tells Chloe he's still not into her. Dude, are you blind?!
3/10

RUN
Bart Allen, a.k.a. Impulse (or is he the Flash?) super-speeds into town, steals a Kryptonian manuscript owned by Lex, and becomes one of Clark's first future-Justice League super-friends. This fast-paced episode speeds its way into becoming one of my favorite episodes of the season!
9/10

TRANSFERENCE
It's like Freaky Friday, only not, when Lionel and Clark switch bodies! Hilarity, suspicion, and general craziness ensues when Lionel-in-Clark makes out with Lana, teases Chloe, is too attracted to Martha, and almost kills Lex and Jonathan, while Clark-in-Lionel tries to figure out a way to get himself out of prison before some WWE reject kills him in a prison battle royale. Pretty cool stuff, actually.
9/10

JINX
Mxyzptlk comes to Smallville!!! Only this time, he's a foreign exchange student with a Russian accent from the balkans who can make people do anything he wants by telling them to do it, and can only be silenced by the sound of locusts or similar frequencies. Huh? So, not so much Mxyzptlk after all, but still a cool episode with some great Chlarky moments.
8/10

SPELL
Lana, Chloe, and Lois are inhabited by Margaret Isobel Thoreaux and her witchy friends and turn Chloe's b-day bash in the barn into a crazy party that's sure to make Clark's chances at a football scholarship SO much better. Not one of my favorites...
2/10

BOUND
Lex wakes up next to a bloody, dead gal he was sleeping with, and is hunted down by a one-night stand. Way too gritty and gross for my tastes.
1/10

SCARE
Lana sees dead people... really! Well, it's in a dream, but still... Clark dreams up another meteor shower (prophetic vision?). Jason sees himself falling off a balcony, and Lex glimpses his future villainous destiny, all because of a Luthorcorp experiment gone wrong. And Chloe does NOT look good in a straight jacket (note that this is the ONLY time you'll hear me saying Chloe doesn't look good, 'cause she's normally HOT!).
5/10

UNSAFE
Alicia Baker, teleporter/Clark-stalker extraordinaire, has been released from Belle Reeve, so of course Clark immediately is willing to start dating her again. Huh? She slips some red kryptonite on him, and he's ready to zip over to Vegas for a lightning-fast wedding that skips almost straight to the honeymoon. Oh, and Lana's ready to do virtually anything for Jason. Ugh. I don't like this episode at all.
2/10

PARIAH
Which is surprising, then, that I LOVE "Pariah!" I thought this was a very well-executed episode. And speaking of executing, this Sandman wannabe exacts his particular brand of moral justice by trying to kill Lana and Jason while framing poor Alicia, who gets lynched in her own horse stables at the end of the episode, Clark not even getting the chance to apologize for not believing in her. It really was heart-breaking, and I finally saw what so many people liked about Alicia. Chloe discovers Clark's secret, too, which is HUGE for the rest of the season, and the series as a whole, really.
10/10

RECRUIT
Clark gets a glimpse of what college life at Met U could be like if he goes the football route, but when Geoff Johns (another O.C. visitor) turns out to be just another cheating meteor freak who uses his powers unfairly on the football field and to whack his teammates who know too much, our future Superman has second thoughts. The only way this episode gets as high a score as it does is due to the great Chloe one-liners now that she knows Clark's secret and can start dropping none-too-subtle hints, LOL!
7/10

KRYPTO
Clark gets a super-dog! Okay, so Shelby only has powers for this one episode, but it is a pretty goofy, funny one. Luckily they didn't try future episodes with cats, chickens, and the Kent Farm cows gaining powers, too. This is a one-episode plot device, to be sure.
6/10

SACRED
Lana feels compelled to go to China to hunt down one of the missing stones, especially when she receives top secret information from Lionel, and Clark goes with her. They find themselves at odds with Jason and Lex, on the hunt for the same artifact, and each other, once Isobel rears her witchy head again. The action-packed and fairly good plot makes this a pretty cool episode, even though I'm generally not a huge fan of the "Stones" storyline.
8/10

LUCY
Lois Lane's little sister visits Smallville, and it turns out she's conning Lex Luthor and all of 'em. We never see her again, but at least we know she can play the violin!
5/10

ONYX
A black kryptonite experiment gone wrong involving irradiated fruit (I kid you not) splits Lex into his good and evil sides, and things turn very Man in the Iron Mask when one of the pair gets chained up in the basement. Three guesses to figure out which one that is, and the first two don't count. ;)
8/10

SPIRIT
Dawn Stiles, wannabe prom queen, possesses Martha, Lana, Chloe, and Clark, with continuously hilarious results. I loved the entire episode, especially Chloe being elected prom queen. The only thing I didn't dig? Lois pushing a Clana dance rather than convincing C.K. to dance with her own cousin. Grr!
8/10

BLANK
Clark's memory is wiped as blank as a freshly-cleaned slate when Kevin Grady tries to make a speedy getaway after robbing the Talon's cash register. Thus, Chloe Sullivan becomes a one-woman tour guide for Clark through his mysterious, crazy life, which ends up being a load of fun and revelations! This is undoubtedly one of my favorite episodes of Season 4. Chlark lives!!!
10/10

AGELESS
So, a krypto-baby blows up his mom and then spontaneously ages every few hours just to show us that Clana still has potential. Yeah, way to be convincing, Smallville. ;)
3/10

FOREVER
Brendan likes high school a little TOO much, so he creates his own model of Smallville High, and stuffs all the "Most Likelies" from the yearbook, including Lana and Chloe, into his little wonderland, and if they try to escape, he uses his meteor power to turn them into wax mannequins. Weirdness... but not the worst episode ever.
6/10

COMMENCEMENT
In what is quite possibly THE BEST SMALLVILLE SEASON FINALE EVER (and not just because it's super-sized), a second meteor shower hits town, as Lana's on the run for murdering Genevieve Teague ("For a woman without a heart, Genevieve Teague certainly had a lot of blood," saith Lionel Luthor), and Lex is willing to help by putting her up in a helicopter (bad idea). Meanwhile, Chloe saves Clark's butt (again), she and Clark get beamed to the Arctic once he finds and puts together the three stones, Jason's holding the Kents at gunpoint, Lionel goes krypto-catatonic, Lois cries silently, and the Fortress of Solitude gets built. What a way to end an otherwise up-and-down season!
10/10 (If I could give it an 11, I would!)

Now for the breakdown...

3x 10/10
2x 9/10
5x 8/10
1x 7/10
3x 6/10
2x 5/10
0x 4/10
2x 3/10
3x 2/10
1x 1/10

Season average: 6.18/10

Barely above average.

I didn't like this season nearly as well as I did Season 3, but at least the episodes that they did well they did VERY well. "Blank," "Commencement," "Pariah," "Transference," and "Run" rank right up there as some of my favorite episodes of the entire season. But clunkers like "Bound," "Facade," "Spell," "Ageless" and "Devoted" show that when Season 4 was bad, it was REALLY bad. At least they'd departed a lot from the formulaic FOTW plot device... but unfortunately, that sometimes led to kryptonite being used in sports drinks, plastic surgery, and dog genetic enhancement, which wasn't all that that much of an improvement.

Still, this season saw Chloe learning Clark's secret, which was HUGE! Jason Teague was an interesting addition, but how many people honestly couldn't foretell that he was going to go bad in the end? Seriously... And Clark and Lana love each other by the end of the season. How many times is this that they've hooked up now? I guess it's really only two, but it seems like a million at this point. Lionel and Lex get some cool stuff to do, and introducing Lois was... an interesting choice. I LOVE her now in Season 8, but I didn't really care for her all that much back in Season 4. I guess it took them a while to get her character just right.

Still, Season 4 did all right for itself. I guess I'd give it a C or C+.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[lana 9]

crusade 7/10
gone 6/10
facade 4/10
devoted 4/10
run 10/10
trnsference 10/10
jink 7/10
spell 9/10
bound 5/10
scare 6/10
unsafe 1/10
pariah 7/10
recruit 5/10
krypto 3/10
sacred 8/10
lucy 3/10
onyx 10/10
spirit 8/10
blank 8/10
ageless 5/10
forver 5/10
commncement 10/10

[Bilza]

Season 4 the more u watch the more u realise how brilliant it is. It may not be as good as Season 3 or 5 but for the main plotline, it was intriguing to watch especially Lex's more and more apparent descent into darkness and his continuing obssession with clark, the lies and mistrust between them and the mysterious (i.e. the stones, the caves) while showing more obvious feelings for Lana. Obviously Chloe finding out about Clark's powers and hiding the fact that she knows, etc.

crusade 10/10
gone 8/10
facade 7/10
devoted 8/10
run 10/10
trnsference 10/10
jink 9/10
spell 6/10
bound 10/10 - for me i dont understand why people think this episode is boring. It made us look more into the troubled life of Lex Luthor and how or why he turns bad and what effects it had on Clark's friendship with Lex. In a lot of ways this was like the episode "Zero" in season 1.

scare 9/10
unsafe 8/10
pariah 10/10
recruit 8/10
krypto 6/10
sacred 9/10
lucy 8/10
onyx 12/10!!! - My favourite episode of entire series! MR and the 2 lexes were amazing in this!!

spirit 10/10
blank 10/10
ageless 5/10
forver 8/10
commncement 11/10!! - Amazing season finale. My favourite!

[Clark/Lois-fan]

Crusade 10/10. Lois is introduced, and she's one fiesty lady. Clark/Kal-El has amnesia. Clark/Kal-El takes flight! Margot Kidder guest stars.

Gone 8/10. Clois in the bathroom. A visit from General Sam Lane. Chloe's first seen in season 4.

Facade 8.5/10. Lois writes for the Torch and get's Clark wet

Devoted 8.5/10. Lighthearted episode. Chloe as a cheerleader. Clois working together

Run 10/10. Bart/Impulse. Enough said

Transference 10/10. Amazing acting by Tom as Lionel, and John as Clark.

Jinx 6/10 A goodlooking exchange student

Spell 8/10. The commentary alone makes this a must-see episode imo, along with Clark dancing

Bound 6/10. Don't like this episode. The only funny part is Clark & Chloe in the elevator.

Scare 8/10. Interesting episode

Unsafe 9/10. Nice to see Alicia again and Clark on red-k

Pariah 10/10. Alicia dies, but not before showing Chloe Clark's secret.

Recruit 9/10. Lois in trouble at Met U & Clark to the rescue.

Krypto 10/10. A fun episode where Shelby is introduced. Great banter between Clois

Sacred 10/10. Travelling to China.

Lucy 8/10. Lois littlesister visits with a plan. Fantastic chemistry between Clois

Onyx 8/10. Two Lex's

Spirit. 10/10. The Prom. A fun episode feat. Lighthouse

Blank. 9/10. Clark get's amnesia again and Chloe helps him

Ageless 8/10. I liked it for the sweetness of it all. Clark with a baby

Forever 8/10. School is never out

Commencement 10/10. A fantastic season finale. Meteor shower number 2 hits Smallville and Clark finds himself in the North Pole

Overall I score this season 8/10

[BigT]

Well this season has gotten some mixed reviews but after reviewing the season myself I have to go with the ppl who thought it was good.

The best episodes:

Crusade
Gone
Run
Scare
Unsafe
Pariah
Onyx
Commencement

[Night_Hawk90]

easily one of smallvilles worst seasons this was where the downfall began

[Supsfan]

easily one of smallvilles worst seasons this was where the downfall began

Unless you a fan of Lex or Chloe, I would say End of Season 2/Season 3 was the start of the downfall. The first 2 seasons focused mainly on Clark and the relationships in his life, by early season 3 it seems he took less of a focus and other characters started getting storylines away from him.

[BigT]

easily one of smallvilles worst seasons this was where the downfall began

Well I kinda agree with that. Since season 3 this show hasn't been the same and season 6 was definately their biggest plunge. Season 7 didn't help either. But 5 and 8 weren't so bad.

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Unless you a fan of Lex or Chloe, I would say End of Season 2/Season 3 was the start of the downfall. The first 2 seasons focused mainly on Clark and the relationships in his life, by early season 3 it seems he took less of a focus and other characters started getting storylines away from him.

I agree with that too. Lana Lang all of a sudden became the star of the show and it was just flat out disgusting! :mad::eek:

[LJ-90]

Season 4? Not a big fan except from Crusade, Run and Onyx.

Didn't like the witch stuff...it's was waaaay weird.

[Night_Hawk90]

Unless you a fan of Lex or Chloe, I would say End of Season 2/Season 3 was the start of the downfall. The first 2 seasons focused mainly on Clark and the relationships in his life, by early season 3 it seems he took less of a focus and other characters started getting storylines away from him.

never cared for chloe tbh, but i still consider 1-3 the golden years of smallville it was more consistent with its storytelling, clark was very proactive, the clex dynamic was the heart of the show, clana was bearable i just really enjoyed the first 3 seasons a lot plus john glover was awesome. though s3 had an episode that really did damage to clarks character (exile) i still think it was the shows best written season but certainly not a great season overall

[BigT]

Clana was great this season. It erks me why there weren't together this season and I mean long term relationship! And this is coming from someone who hates Clana with a passion!

[Night_Hawk90]

Well I kinda agree with that. Since season 3 this show hasn't been the same and season 6 was definately their biggest plunge. Season 7 didn't help either. But 5 and 8 weren't so bad.

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season 5 had MOD EDIT loads of potential but they royal MOD EDIT themselves with reckoning and beyond, s6 was soap operaish, s7 writers strike did a lot of damage, and s8 was the shows worst season period imo not because of lana but it was just a mess with the whole bloomsday and chloe this season ruined the show for me.

[BigT]

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season 5 had MOD EDIT loads of potential but they royal MOD EDIT themselves with reckoning and beyond, s6 was soap operaish, s7 writers strike did a lot of damage, and s8 was the shows worst season period imo not because of lana but it was just a mess with the whole bloomsday and chloe this season ruined the show for me.

I enjoyed season 8! It wasn't the best season but over all I thought it was good.

Now back to season 5, it was really good but towards the end of the season is where it started to lose it's momentum.

[LJ-90]

I enjoyed season 8! It wasn't the best season but over all I thought it was good.

Now back to season 5, it was really good but towards the end of the season is where it started to lose it's momentum.

Season 8 was only good up until Legion...then Smallville went to hell.

Season 4 was too weird with the stones, the witchs and the Clark in school stuff...it didn't look like they were planning a main arc in the season, just throwing ideas out there.

[BigT]

Season 8 was only good up until Legion...then Smallville went to hell.

I want to see Legion again. When I first saw it was didn't care for it because I was too tired to care @ the time. Now I want to give it another chance. I enjoyed Power (even though Lana getting powers and Clana part 4 was just utterly stupid!), Infamous, Hex, Beast, and I may get cruified for saying this but I though Doomsday was the best episode all season!


Season 4 was too weird with the stones, the witchs and the Clark in school stuff...it didn't look like they were planning a main arc in the season, just throwing ideas out there.

Yeah I do agree with that. In fact, what was the main-arc to be completely honest?

[Supsfan]

Clana was great this season. It erks me why there weren't together this season and I mean long term relationship! And this is coming from someone who hates Clana with a passion!

The reason Clana was great for the most part was they seperated the 2 characters for 2/3rds of the season and the last 4-5 episode when they were together they actually were somewhat happy for a change.

Season 4 was one of the worst Lana (storylines) seasons ever, but at the same time one of the best Clana seasons


though s3 had an episode that really did damage to clarks character (exile) i still think it was the shows best written season but certainly not a great season overall

Relic, Magnetic, Velocity, Crisis, Hereafter, Resurection, Slumber, Extinction.....S3 had it's fair share of "fillers" and I would say some of those episodes on the list are just as bad as S4 episodes that everybody complains about.

As I said the only think S3 had that most other seasons didn't was "big" storylines for Lex and Chloe but you can definantly see a change from S2 episodes to S3 that made it's transition to S4 episode

[Selina]

I enjoyed season 4. The only thing I disliked was the unneccassry witch storyline. Why, just why? The link between Isobel and the quest for the stones was a very faint one. In short, it wasn't needed at all. It felt like I was watching a season of Charmed (and I loved that show) but held no place on a science fiction show like Smallville.

Other than that, I didn't mind it at all. We had some great episodes like Run, Onyx, Blank and Transference. Granted there was some sub-standard episodes but you get that in every season. One thing though, it had the best finale that SV has ever seen imo.

[Night_Hawk90]

The reason Clana was great for the most part was they seperated the 2 characters for 2/3rds of the season and the last 4-5 episode when they were together they actually were somewhat happy for a change.

Season 4 was one of the worst Lana (storylines) seasons ever, but at the same time one of the best Clana seasons



Relic, Magnetic, Velocity, Crisis, Hereafter, Resurection, Slumber, Extinction.....S3 had it's fair share of "fillers" and I would say some of those episodes on the list are just as bad as S4 episodes that everybody complains about.

As I said the only think S3 had that most other seasons didn't was "big" storylines for Lex and Chloe but you can definantly see a change from S2 episodes to S3 that made it's transition to S4 episode

i disagree s4 had some of the most pointless fillers facade, gone, pariah, unsafe, forever, ageless, spell, the list goes on i understand you like to see a happy clark but you cant deny that this was the season that dramatically changed the whole tone of series in a bad way. Clark was so flipping depressed in this season, the intro of lois was handled horribly, still hate chloe figuring out the secret, i just didnt like it so we will have to agree to disagree/

[Supsfan]

Clark was so flipping depressed in this season

Maybe I am just focusing on all the Lois episodes, but Clark was hardly despressed in all episodes she was in besides Pariah but that's because Alicia died(that's 13 episodes). Beyond that I don't remeber depressed Clark in Run, Transference, Unsafe, Jinx, Ageless(as crappy an epiosde as that was) and Onyx off the top of my head(so that's 19 episodes, leaving 3 episodes that I haven't watched enough to say one way or another)

In previous seasons it seems to often we see Lana put Clark on guilt trips about his secret, or stuff happen that made Clark feel like "it was his fault". In Season 4 they seemed to cut out some of that angst of the previous 2 seasons.

[Selina]

I can't say I remember Clark being depressed in season 4 either apart from Alica's death as you say and probably giving up on football but that was nothing major. Overall Clark came across quite happy and cheerful that season.

The season imo that he was most depressed was season 6.

As for fillers, it depends on your own individual interpretation of 'filler' but I think every season has had it's fair share of weaker episodes, though I will proceed to say seasons 1-3 have been the strongest so far. That said, it was nice to see Clark as his own person in season 4 and not pine after Lana. It made a refreshing change.

Had there been no witchy storyline, I would have put it up there with the first three seasons. For me, it was this plot that was the let down. It just didn't gell well with the season or the overall feel of the show. It's SV, not Charmed.

[Supsfan]

I can't say I remember Clark being depressed in season 4 either apart from Alica's death as you say and probably giving up on football but that was nothing major. Overall Clark came across quite happy and cheerful that season.

That's how I feel. I think Clark came off happy and well adjusted for the most part during the bulk of the season, and I think Season 4 was the most we seen of "happy" Clark then any other season.


The season imo that he was most depressed was season 6.

Yeah Season 6 was terrible for depressed Clark, Season 7 wasn't much better. The second half of Season 8 was terrible as well in that reguard. As for earlier season I thought Clark came off good for the most part in Season 1, but S2 and S3, Clark seemed to become progressively more depressed for one reason or another(either Lana going on her "I need to know your secret" kick(which was dropped for the most part in S4) or Clark having to deal with his tyranical AI father, feeling everything was his fault)


As for fillers, it depends on your own individual interpretation of 'filler' but I think every season has had it's fair share of weaker episodes, though I will proceed to say seasons 1-3 have been the strongest so far.

By definition of "filler" I would say episodes like Perry or Run would be fillers since they add nothing to the bigger story, yet I never see people complain about those "filler"episodes. I am of the belief the show is better when it stays away from bigger story arcs and just has one shot episodes


That said, it was nice to see Clark as his own person in season 4 and not pine after Lana. It made a refreshing change.

Exactly. That is why I enjoy watching Season 4 episodes despite the many problems in the big picture with Season 4. Having a well adjusted Clark do his own thing was entertaining for what I want to see.


Had there been no witchy storyline, I would have put it up there with the first three seasons. For me, it was this plot that was the let down. It just didn't gell well with the season or the overall feel of the show. It's SV, not Charmed.

The witch plot definantly the worst part of S4, but the stones storyline was misguided as well. If you look at S4 episodes in reguards to the bigger storyline, then it is sort of a fail, but if you judge each episode as it's own identity I found them entertaining.

Doing a comparison of Lana the witch to other Lana plots, I do think it was better then Lexana(S6) and Lana and Clark play house(S7) but slightly worse then Adam Knight(S3). I know alot of people love S3, but how many people leave out the whole Adam Knight storyline like it never existed and how much time that wasted.

[BigT]

i disagree s4 had some of the most pointless fillers facade, gone, pariah, unsafe, forever, ageless, spell, the list goes on i understand you like to see a happy clark but you cant deny that this was the season that dramatically changed the whole tone of series in a bad way. Clark was so flipping depressed in this season, the intro of lois was handled horribly, still hate chloe figuring out the secret, i just didnt like it so we will have to agree to disagree/


3 of those episodes I though were actually good. Pariah being the best one. I take it that you hate Alicia and that's fine but I love her. I'm an Alicia mark so let it be at that and I thought her episodes were some of the best this season but that's just my opinion.

[SVFAN89]

I love season 4 myself. In terms of having a strong story arc no it's not the strongest, but I personally find this season very entertaining. Even if some episodes were cheesy, I still found them entertaining. There's a few guilty pleasure episodes in this season for me(Facade, Devoted, Spell, Spirit, Forever).:p

This season had some very solid episodes in it though. Plus season 4 contains my favorite episode of the whole series, "Commencement." The best part of season 4 was bringing in Lois Lane.:D

[Livstevi21]

Here we go, my season 4 episode breakdown :D

Crusade - 10/10
Gone - 9/10
Facade - 7/10
Devoted - 8/10
Run - 10/10
Transference - 10/10 - My favorite episode ever.
Jinx - 7/10
Spell - 9/10 - Hugely entertaining episode :p
Bound - 7/10 boring episode except for the Chlark lift scene
Scare - 9/10
Unsafe - 5/10
Pariah - 8/10
Recruit - 7/10
Krypto - 10/10 - Shelby :D
Sacred - 8/10
Lucy - 7/10
Onyx - 10/10
Spirit - 9/10 - Martha as Dawn = Hilarious :lol:
Blank - 9/10 - Amazing Chlarky episode :D
Ageless - 3/10 - Pile of poo
Forever - 8/10
Commencement - 10/10

Total score 180. Average score: 8.18/10

Mixed season, but overall, very enjoyable. :D

[Supsfan]

10: Crusade, Lucy
9.5: Gone, Devoted, Krypto
9: Facade, Run, Spirit
8.5: Transference, Recruit
8: Unsafe, Onyx
7.5: Spell, Pariah
7: Jinx, Sacred, Forever, Commencement
6.5: Bound
6: Scare
5.5: Blank
2.5: Ageless

Average 7.80/10

Fun light hearted season that doesn't take itself to seriously, just how I would expect a Superman story to be.