Ep 4.16 - Lucy

[Chiriru]

Lois Lane's younger sister comes to town and brings trouble along with her.

[ImaVirus]

I love the ending of this episode. I just watched this again and the interaction with Clark and Lois is great at the end of the show. He comes in, she thinks she is out. Dinner in the oven. She's the cutest damn thing with her double dimples. There is a point in there canversation that they are close up of Lois and Clark is blurred in the background. That would make a good desktop image. Thats great foreshadowing. :) And I happen to think she is the best looking in the series. Maybe it is the age for me. Don't think I don't agree that the other girls are quite a sight to look at. I certainly wouldn't look away, but you just see their relationship growing into more than just the friends.

Granted, I am talking about this show after we have already seen the rest of 4 and now season 5 but I am considering the relationship with Lois up to this show, not with the following ones. I think the final scene is one of the better scenes with Clark and Lois just talking. Cool. I just wanted to say that. And we have a new thread for Lucy. So it is a good new start.

[jdot]

For the most part I liked this episode. There were a couple of things that jarred me out of it, though. Lucy's attempted break in of the Talon followed by her reactions in Lex's mansion to the plans for capturing the "bad guy"(Methos! yay!) made it way too obvious that she wasn't being honest.

Also, the scene where she and Lex were playing together had that moment of "oh, look, she's moving the bow but not her fingers and my god could that look any more fake". At the very least they should have rethought how they shot that. They've gotten real musicians to do hand close-ups of things before, and they could have easily done it in that instance and then done a quick cut to her turning around so that we never actually saw that the actress wasn't playing. I realize some people may never notice this, but after 10 years of band and choir work it tends to be something that I look at. :p

[greggbray]

Not a bad episode, my only gripe with it is the pre-credit, James Bond 'Spy Who Loved Me' ski-chase scene makes no sense. We find out, at the end, that she's in cahoots with these guys. So, why the high speed chase?

It served no purpose. I didn't mind the guys lurking at the Talon, etc., as it was designed to give everyone the false sense that Lucy was on the up and up.

But the whole thing didn't add up. Maybe if the pre-titles sequence had been reworked.

[UpandAtom]

I thought that Lucy made a deal with Max after the teaser. He wanted money, she didn't have, so she tells him that she's going to America soon and that she'll con the money out of Lex Luthor. He agrees but follows her to make sure she's not lying.

[Firebunny]

Originally posted by jdot
the scene where she and Lex were playing together had that moment of "oh, look, she's moving the bow but not her fingers and my god could that look any more fake". I realize some people may never notice this, but after 10 years of band and choir work it tends to be something that I look at. :p

I haven't had 10 years of band and choir, but I noticed it too. Very badly done.

[UpandAtom]

One thing I don't understand about this episode. Why did Lana try to hide the stone from Jason? And who was responsible for the robbery?

[LexLuv180]

I think Lana was just suspicious of Jason by this point and wanted to hide it 'just in case'. She set up the robbery herself, trashing her own apartment fool everyone. For once she was sneaky.

[UpandAtom]

When could she have possibly done that? She couldn't have done it before Jason was picking her up because he would've noticed if he went to her apartment. And since the Talon was full at the time, someone would've noticed if a person tried to enter Lana's apartment.

[Pal-El]

I just watched this again, and I have to say it REALLY gets on my nerves when lois calls her dad 'THE GENERAL'

Oh and Lucy was HOT!

[OutlawAngel]

Why exactly do they call him the General when talking to other people but (atleast Lois) calls him daddy when talking to him? Just kinda crazy to me.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by OutlawAngel
Why exactly do they call him the General when talking to other people but (atleast Lois) calls him daddy when talking to him? Just kinda crazy to me.

Agreed.

[auxvis]

I think it is just a matter of respect...I don't think she is necessarily endeared to her estranged father but still calls him Daddy to his face (even if it is in a mock sarcastic tone)...

[Smallville619]

I Liked the Episode it was good has anyone noticed that the Superjump in this one has been copied into the move watch the Superman Returns Trailer and ull see the exact SAME Jump but into a Corn Field lol

[red-K glory]

This is probably the most boring episode of Smallville ever. It is not the worst but it is one of them. The plot and everything just completely bores the heck out of me, which is disappointing because I have never felt that way about an episode of Smallville. I mean there were episodes that I disliked but they were not really boring either, but this episode was just boring.

[bongoboy]

Originally posted by OutlawAngel
Why exactly do they call him the General when talking to other people but (atleast Lois) calls him daddy when talking to him? Just kinda crazy to me.

Possibly out of sarcasm.

I enjoyed the episode.

Although a musician, I didn't see her fingers. I was looking elsewhere. ;)

:p

[RedQ]

and when they came back the Apartment is messed up? I'm guessing they came back after a run average time an hour plus? but before Lunch?

Originally posted by UpandAtom
When could she have possibly done that? She couldn't have done it before Jason was picking her up because he would've noticed if he went to her apartment. And since the Talon was full at the time, someone would've noticed if a person tried to enter Lana's apartment.
Originally posted by auxvis
I think it is just a matter of respect...I don't think she is necessarily endeared to her estranged father but still calls him Daddy to his face (even if it is in a mock sarcastic tone)... I don't think it's out of respect it's out of distant or NO Relation to their Father. So they call him General, cause that's is how they were treated rather than being treated as Daddy's little girl. It's a Char Build for Lois besides Luce's intro.
and Lois Calls the General daddy cause she has more intimacy with him cause she spent more time with him comapred to Luce. and it won't be sarcam if we saw them really argue and she calls him daddy then it's not out of sarcasm.

Yeah same reaction here, Mythos!

Did you see the two stars colliding when clark was looking in the telescope?

[sky is the limit]

Did you see the two stars colliding when clark was looking in the telescope?

yes, i loved it! both the scene and the song that played in the background. the first time i watched this episode i ddidnt like it that much but on 2nd viewing i enjoyed some moments a lot specially this last scene, lois's disasterous attempt to cook the breakfast and of course clark's jump. another thing i liked was the way it showed lois. she was so protective of lucy. loved it when she tried to set lucy free while they both were captured. also loved her comment "thats the thing about sisters you can love them without really liking them"

[RedQ]

the next episode.

[that girl]

I watched this episode again last night. I had only seen it once before and that was before seeing Commencement and I realized that the song they used in Commencement after Lana's helicopter has crashed and she is crawling out of it and up to where the spaceship is, they use the same song as is used over and over agian in this episode, especially around the time leading up to the kidnapping of Lucy and Lois. Did anyone else catch this?

[Welling_is_pretty]

At first I thought I was watching James Bond (even the music was similar) but this actually turned into a pretty decent episode. While the sibling rivalry stuff wasn't the greatest, most of this eppy was pretty good. I loved Lucy hitting on Clark and Clark turning to Lex for the money (did he spend all of Season 4 just asking Lex for favors or what?! :lol: ). THe scene on the truck was exciting and Lucy getting away was good.
The ending in the barn was pretty well done too until the stars colliding thing. I thought that was a bit much. But a very underrated episode, I thought.

[Dyanara]

Lucy was much prettier than Lois, made me wonder why they didnt hire that actress to play Lois.:don'tkillme: I like EricA but having this new girl there just made her seem so plain.

[~*smallville_tv*~]

I like how lucy was cast; I think lucy (whoever the actresses names are.) and lois matched real well, they actually looked like real sisters.
Overall the episode wasn't that crash hot for me. I liked Clark's jump on the track and the way his super hearing was done though. And that quote in the end between lois and clark was nice; how clark admitted being a friend (then agreeing not to admit it to anyone!). I'm enjoying seeing their rivality.
I was watching the lana scene towards the end; thinking lana had the stone and I was right! I haven't seen any episodes after this so I'm hoping lana goes to clark with this.

[Virtuoso]

what did Lucy say in lex's car when she stopped before driving away at the end?

[HotStudsSuccess]

Lex was like "Well, there goes another one of my cars"

[skully]

Originally posted by Virtuoso
what did Lucy say in lex's car when she stopped before driving away at the end?

"Sorry"

[x0xmorganx0x]

Worst episode,I found it so boring!I turned it off half way through.

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

I only watched the episode because of the girl playing Lucy. (Peyton List - Lucy)

Like she would definitely play a well-done job of Lois Lane if she had the chance to. But she said that if there were anymore eps that involved Lucy in it again, she'll be right there to snag and play more sisterly-like to Lois.

So yeah, even the way how both Clark and Lucy had bonded together seemingly was so genuine, she was cute, and he returned his flirtatious charm back to her, but what happens? Oh. Lois and Lucy get into trouble and get kidnapped.

Even the part at the end where both Clark and Lois are talking at the loft, the one song (Dunno what it is, but it was really cool) like when the part of the song, 'and now it all begins.' two comets collide and hit each other, almost as if to say, that Clark and Lois had found some... Friendliness within each other.

[PhotoStarz]

Originally posted by ImaVirus
I love the ending of this episode. I just watched this again and the interaction with Clark and Lois is great at the end of the show. He comes in, she thinks she is out. Dinner in the oven. She's the cutest damn thing with her double dimples. There is a point in there canversation that they are close up of Lois and Clark is blurred in the background. That would make a good desktop image. Thats great foreshadowing. :) And I happen to think she is the best looking in the series. Maybe it is the age for me. Don't think I don't agree that the other girls are quite a sight to look at. I certainly wouldn't look away, but you just see their relationship growing into more than just the friends.

Granted, I am talking about this show after we have already seen the rest of 4 and now season 5 but I am considering the relationship with Lois up to this show, not with the following ones. I think the final scene is one of the better scenes with Clark and Lois just talking. Cool. I just wanted to say that. And we have a new thread for Lucy. So it is a good new start.

I Liked Lucy. And yes !! She's a real Looker !! A True Beauty !!
And better looking than any of the other female cast members.
I'd like to see her appear again on the show sometime soon.

[tibbit78]

What did I think of Lucy?

I thought that this is the best acting I've seen from Erica Durance, out of the whole 4th Season of Smallville. Especially when she was screaming at her little sister, Lucy.

I also liked a few of the scenes in Lucy. This is one of them:


Clark and Lex


Clark: I don't know why Lucy would run away. I mean, Lois is her family.

Lex: Just because you have the same blood running through your veins, it doesn't make you family. Look at us, Clark. I am a product of my father's breeding. He needed an heir, but your family chose you out of love. I'd take your family any day of the week.

(Clark smiled at Lex).
Clark: Lex, do you ever miss not having a sibling?

Lex: I used to...until I met you, Clark. You're closer to me than any...blood brother.


(What I liked about this scene with Lex & Clark was that it reminded me of their friendship way back in the 1st Season of Smallville. Clark is talking to Lex as if he were his friend again, while in other episodes of the 4th Season, he would treat Lex as if he were an enemy. For example, Devoted, Jinx, Bound, etc.). I liked the compliment that Lex made to Clark, especially when he said, "I am a product of my father's breeding. He needed an heir, but your family chose you out of love. I'd take your family any day of the week." This made Clark smile at Lex. It's great to see them as friends, again. I also loved how Clark would ask Lex if he ever misses not having a sibling. After this question, Lex responded with, "I used to... until I met you, Clark. You're closer to me than any blood brother." I miss these old Clark & Lex scenes, what you would call "the good old days").


I loved Clark Kent's & Lois Lane's sense of humor. Especially:
1) Lucy: I'm willing to sleep in the barn.
Clark: That's okay. Lois can sleep in the barn.

2) Lucy: Thanks for asking me to stay. I don't know how to repay you.
Clark: Just tell me plenty of embarrassing stories about Lois. (It was funny when Lois Lane came over and puched Clark in the chest. Ouch! That really must hurt Tom Welling).



I loved the Chloe & Clark quotes, when Clark says to Chloe, "I guess, no matter how bad you want to, you just can't save everyone." Chloe answers Clark in this way, "But it doesn't stop you from trying, does it, Clark?"
(Clark just looked at Chloe like he couldn't figure her out, yet. It's as if he were thinking, "Whatever does she mean by that"?)


Last, but not least. I love the Clark & Lois scene at the barn loft:

Lois and Clark


Clark: You know, I don't think Lucy is all that bad.

Lois: You're amazing Smallville, you always look for the best in people, even when they walk all over you.

Clark: I guess that explains why we're friends.

Lois: Oh, we're friends now?

Clark (smiling at Lois): Well, I mean, I won't tell if you don't.


(This is the best part. Lois Lane pouring her heart out to Clark about her sister, Lucy. She told him about the telephone call she got from her father about him blaming her about losing Lucy. Clark told her, "So that's why I heard all those screaming sounds." Clark, as always, looks for the best in people and tells Lois he doesn't think Lucy is all that bad. Lois compliments Clark by telling him, "You're amazing Smallville, you always look for the best in people..." Clark humorously says, "I guess that explains why we're friends." Lois: "Oh, we're friends now?" Clark smiles at Lois and answers, "I won't tell if you don't." I thought that was the best part of Lucy. Then you see 2 stars colliding into each other as if they're in love. Do the 2 stars stand for Lois & Clark? This episode was great)!

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

Originally posted by tibbit78
Then you see 2 stars colliding into each other as if they're in love. Do the 2 stars stand for Lois & Clark? This episode was great!

That's the whole impression I'm getting when seeing those two stars collide. But if you look at it in some ways, it almost could tell that Lois & Clark have a profound liking within each other. That's why I love that part, as if to say their friendship as the part of the song quotes, "and now it all begins."

I'm dying to find out who plays that song. It was great and I want to get it!


Originally posted by PhotoStarz
I Liked Lucy. And yes !! She's a real Looker !! A True Beauty !!
And better looking than any of the other female cast members.

Couldn't agree with ya more :)

[Swie]

A boring episode in a so-so season. IMO Lucy looked ugly and out of place. I hated her character.

The girl's saving grace was the semi-intelligent conversation with Lex. It's rare that a character has anything to say to him except the usual "I have a secret/want your secret/give me money/stone/etc.". I'd have loved to introduce her to Lionel for a sec, too.

Good to see that people still remember: Lex and Lionel are used to a bit more than college football and mystery reports... hanging out with farmboys and teenagers must get boring intellectually. Brings back memories of business-savvy!Martha.

Lois was good. This fleshed out her character and made her sympathetic.

Lex's "we're brothers" speech is so out of place. The look Clark gives him screams "riiiight... you keep thinking that....". Lex was pathetic.

Especially after Clark asks for 50 grand that Lex loses, and Clark SARCASTICALLY says "glad you got something out of this." What happened to the kid who got shy when Lex gave him concert tickets? He's been getting more and more spoiled every season, and Lex just encourages him.

Lana... she's like a five year old when she tries to ignore everything so she can suck face with her bf, even though as Isabel she tortured a bunch of people.

About the only good thing in this episode was Lois and Clark's end scene. And Methos.

[thorshammer]

I liked it. Not the best episode in the series, but average.

Swie-Peyton List is ugly? Are you kidding?

It was great that Lana staged the robbery. She's a good character every once in a while.

[big yellow taxi]

I really loved the ending to this episode. And now that song is possibly my favourite song of all time... well, not quite. But I do love it. I think someone was asking what it was. It was 'Fly' by Mark Joseph but it's the album version not the ****** single version which I do not like.

[happyending21]

it was a cool epi the ending was classic ..i loved it ....and lucy was cool ..I know she was a you know what but all little sisters are trust me i know ....I am one ...ummm little sister that iS lol


any way diffinatly cool althought the whole lionel jason and lana part bored me

[Funnycat65]

This episode was the first episode i ever watch and everybody thinks its crap

what do you think

from funnycat65

[babyluthor]

I liked this episode. I think Lucy did a great job playing Lois's sister. They left it as a cliffhanger with Lucy getting away. I think they should bring her back for another episode.

[Pesk]

I think in the comics she dates jimmy. So that can be a reason to bring her back right there.

[babyluthor]

I agree, that would be a good way to get her involved again.

[AlwaysRight]

Worst episode,I found it so boring!I turned it off half way through.

I think it's a case if you a Lois fan you will love it, if you not you'll find it mindless filler. This definantly a huge episode in the CLark/Lois relationship because it was the first time that Lois really let down her guard talking to Clark(story about her and lucy's relationship) and also the final scene was huge as well because Lois wasn't sarcastic

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Why exactly do they call him the General when talking to other people but (atleast Lois) calls him daddy when talking to him? Just kinda crazy to me.

i think it's symobolic of what she thinks of him(the General) and what she want him to be(Daddy)

[Kevin24]

I loved this episode, it was awesome!!!! wooooooooo

The beginning , middle and the end. I loved it all!! All i tell you!

Did anyone notice when lois looked at the telescope all she saw were stars in the sky? but when clark saw thru it you could see plants and comets crashing?

PS whats the name of the song at the end?

[AlwaysRight]

PS whats the name of the song at the end?

Mark Joseph - Fly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmvOEQ9e1cY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgN8ulqJNM&feature=related (Clois video)

[Kevin24]

Mark Joseph - Fly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmvOEQ9e1cY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgN8ulqJNM&feature=related (Clois video)

ohhhhhhhh sweet!!!! finally I get the name of the song!!!!!

Clois ftw!!!

[SleepingBeauty]

I love this episode especially because we did get to see Lucy and we did learn more about Lois past.

[MjLaDy08]

I love this episode... Lois telling a part of his life to Clark...

[NadiaBreca]

8 the epi was ok,but the end............that end,awesome :D;)

[pizzahead2490]

This episode was pretty good. Just saw it. First off I love the ending. One of the greatest Clois scene in Smallville history.

I wouldn't mind if Lucy guest star in Smallville again.

Yo, Lana...wow.

So let me get this straight, She trashed her apartment pulling everything out of place. Act if off when Jason was there saying it was a robbery. Saying maybe it was Lex or Lionel who took the stone just to find out in the end that she took it. Wow Lana, wow. Secret and Lies.... you never change. smh.

[wendelboe]

So let me get this straight, She trashed her apartment pulling everything out of place. Act if off when Jason was there saying it was a robbery. Saying maybe it was Lex or Lionel who took the stone just to find out in the end that she took it. Wow Lana, wow. Secret and Lies.... you never change. smh.

Well maybe Lana didn't arrange to trash her own apartment, and in that case she was genuinely surprised by the burglary.
And she could have hidden the stone herself (just to be on the safe side),
it would make more sense for her to look for the stone at her secret hiding-place when she's alone, if she was surprised by the burglary.

But if she did arrange to trash her own apartment i guess she wouldn't worry about the stone afterwards (why would she then look in her secret hiding-place if she knew it wasn't gone?)

But what I really don't get is, why would a thief just leave a bunch of obvious clues to her/his/their burglary?


By the way, really like seeing Clark trying to tame that bit Truck :D

[lex fan 10]

i watched this episode today.

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i love this episode .

[Nimkong]

This episode is ok.Liked how they introduced lucy lane and clarks super jump.but dident like the plot

[Supsfan]

but dident like the plot

I honestly don't get what is wrong with the plot. Person(ie Lucy) gets in a bad situation and the hero of the show(ie Clark)does all the heavy thinking, comes up with the right conclusions and saves the day. There was very limited angst and the show ended on a happy note. That to me is Super Hero writing 101 and a formula I wish they would use more often.

The only fault with the episode in my eyes is the first opening doesn't make any sense that the guy is chasing Lucy, then we find on later in the episode they working together. All the really needed to do was have Lucy make one off hand comment how something happened between the ski scene and her coming to Smallville that got them working together.

[SGuthrie27]

I really enjoyed this episode a lot more than I thought I would when I rewatched it today. It'd been a long time since I watched "Lucy," but it has quite a few redeeming qualities. Originally, I guess I was just bored because there wasn't much Chloe, and I wasn't a terribly big fan of Season 4 Lois, but I found her to be a lot more charming in this particular episode for some reason... Lucy was also a very interesting, realistic, three-dimensional character and I think the show has done itself an injustice by not bringing her back already. There were some great moments with Lex as well. The "Oh my goodness, who took the stone?!" part of the show wasn't quite as thrilling, as it wasn't really connected at all to anything else that was going on. I do wonder though... did Lana ransack her own apartment to make it look like a break-in? Or did she move where the element was hidden, and then someone else broke in to try to find it?

[Supsfan]

I do wonder though... did Lana ransack her own apartment to make it look like a break-in?

I always assumed Lana got somebody to ransack the apartment, although when I rewatch the episode those scenes usually get my finger to move towards the FF button. lol

[SGuthrie27]

I always assumed Lana got somebody to ransack the apartment, although when I rewatch the episode those scenes usually get my finger to move towards the FF button. lol

Haha, I can certainly understand the reason behind that, LOL! I found the Lucy/Lois/Clark/Lex scenes much more interesting.

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

I made a Clucy fanvid back in the days of loving Clark & Lucy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Kt2fgf5mA

:)

[SGuthrie27]

Clark did seem to be doing quite a bit of flirting with Lucy in early parts of the episode, wasn't he? And some of Lucy's one-liners directed towards Clark seemed to indicate an interest as well... Too bad she didn't stop into town again to see what would happen next!

[Supsfan]

Haha, I can certainly understand the reason behind that, LOL! I found the Lucy/Lois/Clark/Lex scenes much more interesting.

Not just Lucy but there is many episodes I will have an itchy FF trigger finger. Only time I watch all scenes(assuming it not from S1) in a episode is if I do a Pilot - Most Current Episode rewatch

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

I always watch this episode on a weekly basis. I just adore Lucy Lane *hence my user name ;)* but I would like to see Lucy back in Smallville for another episode or two, because she needs to help Lois keep Clark Kent on the line ;):lol: I just love her sense of "innocent fun", she really made this episode worth watching. Heck, Peyton List is so beautiful. Clark was willing to help her out, but Lois rebelled against her. I always love that truck scene with LoLu as well, how Lucy said she was "envious that Lois had their father; the General".

Almost every single fan fiction I have made, involves Lucy in it, the majority of the times. I guess I'm hoping Lucy will come back to Smallville, so that she can keep Lois on the line as well... :)

[smallville forever]

maybe lucy was working for them and stole the 50 thousand and thats why they chased her only to cut a deal to deliver for her life lexs money car and ransome it dose make sense as when she is seen in the talon by the loan shark he just lets her walk away if she had owed him money still at this time he would have attacked her at least thats what i think i might be wrong.

[Lucy222]

I watched this episode yesterday. And, every time I see it, I always enjoy it. This episode gave us the chance to see Lois and Lex sharing some scenes and Clark gets ti know a bit better how Lois really is: a person who cares a lot about her friends and family. This was an important ep for Lois´ character, and it was funny Clark´s comment: "if you were any nicer, we'd starve". :)

[lex fan 10]

good episode

[Raistlin]

This is probably the most boring episode of Smallville ever. It is not the worst but it is one of them. The plot and everything just completely bores the heck out of me, which is disappointing because I have never felt that way about an episode of Smallville. I mean there were episodes that I disliked but they were not really boring either, but this episode was just boring.

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