Ep 4.07 - Jinx

[Chiriru]

A strange foreign exchange student is using his power to manipulate high school football betting.

[OutlawAngel]

This episode disscussion brought to you by Old Spice. :lol:

I did like this episode though. But best product placenment since Pete's "hey, Remy Zero!' and the Talon Mix maybe too and not even Vengence with its contacts could beat out the Old Spice.

[k18]

"Old Spice" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". The best combo I have seen in the series!

When I saw "Old Spice", I was like, "hey, I use that too!" I was so happy. I'm such a dork.

[OutlawAngel]

'Boulevard of Broken Dreams' was a great song to go with that part. Its a very dramatic scene but whenever I see that and I see that Old Spice in the locker I bust out laughing but that scene and the scene after where Clark and Jonathan talk were on of my favorite parts of the series. Just a moment that drags me in.

[greggbray]

I have never ever liked the Myx character. Not in Lois and Clark, not in the animated series, I don't even like the guy in the comics. He's about as relevant to Supes' universe as Bat-mite is to Batman's. This was probably the best handling of the character I've ever seen, even if it is a complete departure. REALLY enjoyed the episode. Since the product placement felt organic (many of our high school football games had sponsorship) I wasn't too put off by it.

[Hurricain]

Hey in this episode the student makes Clark choke. My question is....Does Clark breathe oxygen?? I mean he has been in space before...so, anyone know?

[brainiacowen]

Well in the movies and most comics...he can breathe in space just fine, maybe he will develop this later in life....well maybe he's just holding his breathe, because of my next thought:

Sometime's, I see Superman wearing an Oxygen mask while in space...thing is, I never see what the mask is hooked too...I don't understand the dynamics of this either.

[McKeznak]

Ya it's really wired,

In the Animated Superman Adventues, he need a space suit for space and a mask for water,

In the movies he doesn't seem to have to breathe when he is in space fixing the american flag. But when lex puts the kryptonite necklace on him and Ms. Techbacher (i know i didn't spell that right) takes it off, he is struggling to breathe but that could be argued that it was the kryptonite causeing that.

In the Justice league animated series when they visit aquaman superman is always in Green Latern little Green Bubble.

I can't seem to remeber if it has ever been clarified.

[UpandAtom]

Originally posted by Hurricain
Hey in this episode the student makes Clark choke. My question is....Does Clark breathe oxygen?? I mean he has been in space before...so, anyone know?

That was when he was Kal-El so maybe now he doesn't have the power to breathe in outer space yet.

[kmimi]

Hmm.. I have a question.
In the end, Lex sends Mikail to a room in Luthorcorp,
It shows him nodding and the flashing light from the floor,
I don't understand where lex keeps him?

[Smallville619]

you will that out on the SEASON 5 DVD! OR VEGENACE CHRONICLES it is Level 33.1.

Great ep loved the Green Day/Clark Combo, i hate Lana shes a total b**** to clark throughout Season 4 especially in Epsiodes 6, this one and When Alicia goes into the Talon.

Lemme get this straight with Lana she's allowed to have Relationships with all these guys (Jason soon Lex?) and Clark forgives her while when Clark has had a relationship with Chloe and Alicia Lana was jealous of him and she cant stand to be near Clark, thank god Clark gets rid of Lana (The Me me me person in Smallville)

[kmimi]

Ohh okay!
Thanks =)
Haha, Luthorcorp is like Hogwarts. =P
Such complications.

And I agree!
I always look to like her,
but she will dance with Clark in front of Jason,
kiss Clark in front of Whitney (I know she didn't know he was watching, but thats besides the point),
give Clark glances during her boyfriend's dad's funeral,
And she knows full well of how much it's hurting Chloe.
And it makes it worse that she is so pretty. >P

[UpandAtom]

Anyone see the deleted scene from this episode where Clark tells off Lana?

[kmimi]

Wow, he does?
I would love to see that.
Do you know what episode it was?
Haha, this excites me.

[LexLuv180]

Yeah they should have kept the deleted scene in, it was great.

The episode was so-so. The interaction with the mind game and Chloe was good.

[Pesk]

Originally posted by Smallville619
you will that out on the SEASON 5 DVD! OR VEGENACE CHRONICLES it is Level 33.1.


I can't see the vengance chronicles or dvd. :( Can someone please answer the question about the room they went into, coz I really want to know.

[RedQ]

Originally posted by UpandAtom
Anyone see the deleted scene from this episode where Clark tells off Lana? Clark could have told Chloe how she escaped and focused the weirdness on her.

[dhacker615]

I wrote a long post about this episode here -http://fiendishobservationalcomedian.blogspot.com/2006/05/smallville-season-4.html (http://fiendishobservationalcomedian.blogspot.com/2006/05/smallville-season-4.html)

[RedQ]

visiting, sorry. :p

[dhacker615]

Fair enough.

[~*smallville_tv*~]

Not into football generally but I still liked this episode. I think Clark was the opposite in this episode with accepting his powers compared to the episode with bart, particularly the part where he uses green krytonite to slow his powers down. I liked how the green day song was in it too- suited the scene.

[Welling_is_pretty]

Well, I just saw this and I was kinda disappointed at them turning Myx into a 'normal' guy/villian. i love Myx in the comics and his powers (so crazy and unpredicable!) and his guest shots on Superman: The animated Series were awesome! Oh well. I did enjoy the whole bit about the name being backwards (cute in-joke!).

I've never cared for the Clark playing football stuff in Season 4 but the scene where he confronts his father before the game, that was when Clark really starts to become a man.

As for "Boulevard of Broken Dreams' it did fit but I kept thinking that it kinda dated the episode a little. *shrugs*

Pretty good but not one of the better Season 4 eppys.

[last man of krypton]

Must. Buy. Old Spice. Must. Buy. Old Spice.
<slaps self> What happened? Last thing I remember, Clark was getting ready for the football game, then everything became a blur.


Originally posted by UpandAtom
Anyone see the deleted scene from this episode where Clark tells off Lana?

Loved that scene, they should've kept it in and shortened the football game scene. The look in Clark's eyes when he realised that Lana didn't care about the school, football games, or Clark possibly being on drugs was classic. It's like he finally clicked on to that she's really self-absorbed.

[Welling_is_pretty]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
It's like he finally clicked on to that she's really self-absorbed.
if only! if he did think that it was pretty darn fleeting!

[Pal-El]

I didnt like the false accent put on by Trent Ford. It was way too corny.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
Must. Buy. Old Spice. Must. Buy. Old Spice.
<slaps self> What happened? Last thing I remember, Clark was getting ready for the football game, then everything became a blur.



Loved that scene, they should've kept it in and shortened the football game scene. The look in Clark's eyes when he realised that Lana didn't care about the school, football games, or Clark possibly being on drugs was classic. It's like he finally clicked on to that she's really self-absorbed.
Yea I was actually suprise they didn't keep that scene in the original,cause after seein jason talk to lana about bein paranoid of clark it fit in better.Plus like u stated it showed that lana wasn't really over there to show her support in clark all she was worried about was him bein jealous.When at that moment he had other things to worry about.

[Naman is 1#]

Good episode! Finally a DC character on the show! Sure beats those episodes with FOTW's!

[EricN68]

The "jinx" guy is not well explained -- he just shows up and does his thing.

Clark's rescue of Chloe is very well done -- a pretty thrilling moment.

[RedQ]

Super powers.

[ramjeetp]

Hi all

I recently watched this episode again and just wanted to know what you all thought Lex showed that 'jinx' guy at the end of the episode? Was it ever explained in episodes after this one?

[Crusader]

No i dont think it does, it;s weird as the producers never really show what he was showing that guy in the room. I had just watched this episode an hour ago.
My guess is that it;s some sort of lit up tank full of meteor freaks who all stay on that room and get treatment or somethings.

Crazy idea I no lol, just a thought.

[ginnyfan]

The best thing about this show was the superspeed moment. This episode set up a situation that had me on the edge of my seat wondering how Clark was going to come through. That moment where he throws the pass and then runs to free Chloe and comes back just in time for the opposing guy to tackle him... Phenomenal. Super. There needs to be more of that right now in Season 6. More of Clark stretching his abilites to the fullest.

[ramjeetp]

Hi ginnyfan

I totally agree with you about seeing more of Clark using his "abilities to the fullest."

The one good thing I think is that every time he uses his powers to save someone or stop something from happening, he is becoming more at ease at doing it.

Sorry as I have already posted this question but any idea what Lex showed that guy at the end of the episode? I only recently realised that the episode ended like that after watching the episode again.

[ginnyfan]

I don't know! I'm so excited to see if they come back to Level 33.1 at some point. It seemed in the episode like Lex had a collection of people living somewhere at Luthorcorp. It seemed that he was telling Mxy that he would be right at home there. Where ever they were. Maybe that was the expansion of the room about Clark. He has a new area about all the unexplained things he encounters. Hmmm...

[mxlegend99]

Been re-watching the show again. And never noticed the 33.1 thing the first time around. Or i did, but just didn't realise exactly what it was.

If it weren't for Season 6, i wouldn't of loved that section so much.

[Raging Clue]

I just saw it again. I totally forgot about Lex dropping Mikail Mxyzptlk off in 33.1

They showed 33.1 there, then never spoke of it again for 2 years (that I know of). I'm gonna watch Season 4 all over again now, just to see what else I might have missed.

[hemmy]

The defense in on those 2 teams were non existent

Also, I am still wondering why after the Crows won the official is waving his yellow flag in circles above his head ????

[Peat Moss]

Myx is my official favorite villian on this show. Who cares if the accent is corny, you can't beat a Balkan accent. Very good interpretation of the character and his powers, and leaving much room for later development. I really hope he returns, perhaps actually using the backwards-name thing. Hey, if they bring Hydro-lady back (the worst actress on the show and the most obvious personality) they should bring back someone as intriguing as he. The whole "odds" and "chance" theme is very well done, and I want to see more.
And one more thing--many people seem to be saying Myx's power was hypnotism, but it clearly was not. He did not coerce people into doing things, but rather actually controlled reality. Hence making Clark choke, even though you couldn't make yourself choke like that if you tried. Very interesting power.

Sorry about the long off-topic post, but I really like this character and wanted to talk about him a little. Go go Myx!

[tibbit78]

What did I think of Jinx? What I liked about Jinx were the Jonathan & Clark moments and the Jonathan & Clark scenes, along with Martha Kent. They are always giving Clark Kent good advice when it comes to football or Clark's powers. At the end, Clark Kent sticks up for himself and becomes assertive. He talks back to Jonathan Kent, his father, and then towards the end, Jonathan Kent gives into Clark and says to him, "You're starting to sound more like your father." Here are the 2 reasons I liked Jinx:




1) Jonathan, Clark and Martha


Jonathan: There's more to life than championship, Clark.

Clark: I bet it's easier to say that when you have one. Dad, when I put on that football uniform...it's like I forget who I am, but at the same time, I've never known myself better. It's more than just a game.

Jonathan: Clark, I allowed you to join the football team, because I thought you understood...your responsibility not to let anybody get hurt out there.

Clark: And I accepted that responsibility, because I know I can control my abilities.

Jonathan: Then why don't you explain to me why there's a kid lying in a hospital bed right now?

Clark: Have you ever seen me trip? Ever? Something happened out on that field. I couldn't control my own legs.

Jonathan: Just because you're strong does not mean you can't get rattled just like anybody else. I'm sorry, but the last place you need to be is out on that football field and you know it. Coach Quigley's likely to be at the victory party tonight. I'll give him a call, and I'll be the bad guy.

Clark: No, dad...like you said, it's my responsibility.

Martha: I've never seen you miss before. I've also never seen you shrink away from responsibility, no matter how difficult.

Clark: You saw the look on those guys' faces. I couldn't let them down.

Martha: You'd asked your father if we'd ever seen you trip before. Never. Not without Kryptonite. I was so excited to see you get a chance to be like everyone else...that I guess I forgot for a moment that you aren't. I didn't think anything of it when you tripped, but you've never had mishaps like other kids. Something happened to you out there. And if you really want to play in the game on Saturday...you need to find out what it was.



2) Jonathan and Clark



Jonathan: Clark, what are you doing?

Clark: You know what Mikhail said, he'd hurt those guys if I wasn't out there.

Jonathan: A bunch of 250-pound guys banging into each other on a football field is one thing, but getting hit by you is like getting run over by a train. It's a big difference.

Clark: I hope that doesn't happen. I think Chloe and I found out a way to stop Mikhail.

Jonathan: Chloe and you think you found a way to stop him? Well, I'm sorry son, thinking is not good enough.

Clark: Dad, I know you don't agree with me, but taking responsibility means having faith to make the hard choices.

Jonathan: And it also means being willing to accept the consequences.

Clark: Every handshake, every hug, every time I'm out on that field...I make a conscious decision to fall when those guys hit me so they don't get hurt. No matter how hard you try, you can't understand that. That's why this is my decision, not yours.

Jonathan (smiling): You're starting to sound more and more like your father.

Clark (smiling): I hope so, Dad.

[red_cape_7]

it was weird how chloe seemed to imply that she knew about clark's powers at the end. she mentioned how she mysteriously came untied and made some comment about clark not be weak at the end of the episode. she doesnt find out til a few episodes later - did they film this out of sequence or something?

[firehawk375]

I'm just watching the whole of season 4 again

I've just realised how good it is after rushing thruoght it the first time :eek:

Just wondering if anyone noticed the quote from Lex
"There is nothing that's lost that cant be found again"

This is in season 7 when Lex says this to Kara, and im just wondering if there is any back story to this quote ???

[jazel]

Popped in my S4 dvd's today........we're at Jinx.
When my 12 year old says, SV was "simplier and better" before, I could ONLY agree. He also said, Chloe had a bigger but back then.:lol:
WISH....... SV could "recapture" the magic from before...NOW it's seriosly MIA.:(

[firehawk375]

I don't get the same buzz as when I first watched S, but the recent episodes do me fine

No complaints for me but i understand where you're coming from

As for Chloe having a larger butt, I totally agree lol

[JNottle]

"Clark: Every handshake, every hug, every time I'm out on that field...I make a conscious decision to fall when those guys hit me so they don't get hurt. No matter how hard you try, you can't understand that. That's why this is my decision, not yours."

This line reminded me of the one in the very last episode of the Justice League cartoon, like since he's the last MALE Kryptonian, nobody could understand how much he's gotta cut his strength back in handshakes, hugs etc let alone something like Football.

[Bilza]

I think alot of people have missed the significance of this episode, more specifically the end scenes between Clark and Lex and the consequences of such a rift between the two main characters.

I've highlighted so many times in my discussions and analysis the fascinating character that is Lex Luthor and his relationship with clark as being the most intergral part of the entire series. It was very telling in this episode that this friendship is no longer the "stuff of legend" but instead more distrustful especially after he (Lex) helped that jinx guy into 33.1 and more cynically getting Jason fired "to protect Lana" as she's "never meant to be with Jason." I'm still curious till this day what Lex replied to Clark's questioning of what Lex's motives really were for getting Jason fired? Clark promised that he would not go back into this friendship with his eyes closed and he was very clever and serious to follow up what he said then. Clearly this "friendship" in season 4 became more suspicious than ever before. Clark tells Lex: "About a year ago I would have believed that you do this for me out of twisted loyalty for being my friend but you didn't do this for me...then why did you do it?" This was very telling about how suspicious and careful Clark was about what to believe of what's coming out of Lex's mouth especially since he discovered his so called friend investigated him since they met.

Mistrust there already exists and Lex's expressions were chillingly revealing in itself. He looked on at Clark (as only MR can) with that deceitful expression. Lex was almost caught offguard and on the defence as he clearly sees that Clark does not trust like he used to. We all know now this is a slow transformation in Lex's character and his more apparent ulterior motives and his more cold expressions. An increasing but incomplete ruthless side to his character along with his desires I chillingly noticed at end of this episode. While I believe he genuinly values Clark's friendship because I genuinly feel he IS trying to avoid the darkness inside him, but the ulterior motives have become more apparent as he seeks to have everything he can get and not only what Clark has but his infactuation with Lana. It may not seem very obvious in season 4 but they're certainly are signs even since season 3 that Lex was after Lana.

Going back to the point as what or how did Lex respond to Clark's suspicions, I think like a typical Luthor since they are such great liars (especially Lex) must have made up an execuse to Clark to get away with it. We simply will never know but what is revealing later in the season was that trust was slowly disappearing. Lex had many good reasons to be suspicious of Clark and how he always "bets on Clark Kent" in moments of crisis but this just reveals that the belief remains that Clark is not human. You cant blame Lex for being suspicious and wanting to know the truth about his only real "friend" but it's just Lex's motives are so mysterious especially now that he's gained more power and control of Luthorcorp and startiing 33.1, it makes hard for people like Clark to trust him. Equally Clark's lies are not helping the cause to save Lex from the downward spiral into darkness.

This is what is so fascinating about this show. People understate the significance of such an intriguing relationship. You simply cant take your eyes of it when all this mistrust is surrounding that "friendship" to go along with all the mysteries on Smallville.

[JosephKenny18]

I totally agree with Bilza, the friendship between Clark and Lex is what got me hooked on the show in the first place. I am a true superman fan, and the prospect of LL and CK being practically brothers :eek: interested me. Everyone knows what LL is capable of in the Dc universe but in Smallville you see a tiny glimmer of hope for this character and viewers start to be attracted to this character. That maybe Lex isnt all that bad maybe just misguided or pressured into this life he leads. In the first 3 seasons i liked Lex but season 5 and 6 just ripped out lexs heart and we see a more cold LL. :mad:


Anyways i just wanted to say that i loved that scene where Clark puts on his football stuff, the song aswell just added to it. In that scene we see just how isolated Clark is. He puts on a facade of a happy farmboy but in reality he is all alone when dealing with certain situations with regards his origins and in this scene the viewers see that this young man has the weight of the world on his shoulders. One of my favourite scenes ever in Smallville. :)

[Lilah]

I think this is when they started the whole "Lex might have some sort of feelings for Lana" thing... that's always the vibe I get from that last scene. As for the football scene of Clark's super speed... it's actually one of my all time favorite moments in Smallville because the effects were so spectacular... I'm going to go look for that deleted scene now lol :)

[Nimkong]

This episode was good.Liked how it introduced a villan,liked how clark had fun at the championship game,and liked how it introduced 33.1!

[jon-el87]

I did not care, for this version of Mxyzptlk. Honestly, verbal mind control..? Couldn't they at least, have given him the ability to generate illusions? Honestly, they should've made it closer to his comic book counterpart (now that would've been funny)...


That was when he was Kal-El so maybe now he doesn't have the power to breathe in outer space yet.

We never saw him breathe in space (and he was only up there, for about a second). Superman's ability to survive in space, for extended periods of time, are generally explained as being a result of his super breath. His lung capasity is bigger then ours, so when he flies into space, he merely takes a deep breath and then holds his breath for as long as he can (which is much longer, then what a human can do).

[tyson08]

I've been re-watching the series from the beginning and recently got to this episode, when I saw it on the main screen I couldn't for the life remember what it was about. That's because I've never seen this episode! Which is crazy because I've seen every episode of the series (or so I thought). bUT i re-watch random episodes or even seasons that I liked for years now and I've never seen this episode. :lol:

[We're Luthors...]

This is it I think this is the OFFICIAL signal that Lex is interested in Lana, we've seen the signs, as mentioned, since season three, but this is the episode where we see Lex somewhat going after Lana.

[SGuthrie27]

I gave this 9 out of 10 Old Spice Red Zone Deodorant bottles simply for the ridiculous amount of product placement, LOL! I really enjoyed the football elements, the Clark and Jonathan argument and resolution, the Chlark scenes and team-up to take down Mikhail... I wasn't as irked by the use of the Mxyzptlk name here, especially since that's one character I can't imagine them really portraying well in his comic book incarnation. I thought of it more as a clever way of including elements of Mxyzptlk without too much silliness. :p

[Raistlin]

Loved that scene, they should've kept it in and shortened the football game scene. The look in Clark's eyes when he realised that Lana didn't care about the school, football games, or Clark possibly being on drugs was classic. It's like he finally clicked on to that she's really self-absorbed.

That was a good scene and should have stayed, it would have explained the frostiness between Lana and Clark in later episodes. But calling Lana self-absorbed is a misread, IMO. She and Clark are not running in the same circle any more. They are not spending any "friend" time together. Lana has a boyfriend that she cares about; she's into her relationship with Jason.

And if there's one thing you have to say about Lana's character it's that she's consistent when she's in a relationship. She (almost) blindly defends and trusts her boyfriend. She did it with Whitney. She did it with Clark, and now she's doing it with Jason.

I love Clark, but he has managed his relationship with Lana badly. If anyone can be accused of being self-absorbed it would be Clark. He knows Lana and Jason are dating. Why would he think he's numero uno with her now? Lana never said she didn't care about the football games. But Clark wrongly assumed she was there for him instead of Jason.

The only reason Lana went to Clark was to make sure he'd keep mum on her relationship with Jason so he wouldn't lose his job. I don't think Lana would have talked to Clark about it if Jason hadn't planted a seed of doubt. Lana was honest about her state of mind (i.e. she used to trust in a lot of things, she doesn't know where they stand anymore and she doesn't want to make the same mistakes) and Clark didn't like what he heard.

So now he's angry and jealous that he's been replaced in her affection, that she's moved on. That's how I read the scene. It finally clicked and he has no one to blame for it than himself.

----- Added 10 Minutes later -----


"Clark: Every handshake, every hug, every time I'm out on that field...I make a conscious decision to fall when those guys hit me so they don't get hurt. No matter how hard you try, you can't understand that. That's why this is my decision, not yours."

I absolutely loved this scene between Clark and Jonathan. This was something that most definitely needed to be said. Jonathan has always been too judgmental and controlling on the subject of football, and it was good to see Clark stand up to him calmly and rationally.

----- Added 16 Minutes later -----


I think alot of people have missed the significance of this episode, more specifically the end scenes between Clark and Lex and the consequences of such a rift between the two main characters.

I very much enjoyed this post and for the most part, I agree with your analysis.