Almiles to Fans..."Everything you've waited to see! NOT!!!!!!"

[my3cats]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, did this episode manage to include something to piss-off every possible segment of SVs fanbase?

Lana haters: too much to list...

Clark changes history to save Lana, Lex luuurrvves Lana, Chloe chides Clark for not being honest with Lana, but not for the risk of messing with the space-time continum, another boring Clana secrets'n'lies barnscene, Jonathan dies!!!!! to save Lana, Jor-el has a convenient Deus ex machina machine to save Lana, Kryptonians aren't gods, but in Smallvilles universe even gods worship Lana...

Clana haters: textual proof possitive that Lana is the only thing in the fracking universe Clark gives a poo about.

Clana fans: After all that they break up anyway.

Lex fans: He's turned into another spineless, brainless, imasculated Lana worshiper.

Lexana fans: Lana doesn't really like him.

Chlark fans: The only thing they talk about is Lana.

Lois fans: Lois who? Lana is the one the only true love of Clarks life.

Chloe fans: She now exist only to give Clana relationship advice.

Chlois believers: Lana is given Movie!Lois's storyline.

Lionel fans: He doesn't stand a chance of competing for Lex's or TPTB attention against Lana/Lexana.

Comics cannon purists: see all of the above

Jonathan fans: He died for nothing.

Jonathan haters: He died for nothing.

Sci-Fi/Mythology fans: It all only exist to save Lana. Lana actually really is the center of the universe.

Non-shippers: It's going to be all Lana/Clana/Lexana boringness from here on in as far as the eye can see.

Cliche' and overused plot device haters: ANOTHER fake death! ANOTHER fake marriage! ANOTHER (2 in fact) fake someone-finds-out-the-secret! ANOTHER time reversal! Good Grief!

Lana fans: It's really going to be imposible to defend her on the boards.

Clark fans:

I don't think there are any left after this travesty. : (

I hope there is some Cosmic Force of Sanity left in this universe that is going to go all Butterfly Effect on his dumb, selfish, shallow-perpetual-tweeny-bopper-pretty=Everything-good and holy, Pink worshipping ass, that's the only thing that can save the show, not to mention the very image of Superman after this.


The only ones happy about this ep are the Lost fans, their ratings are going to be looking up. :\

[rocky_841]

very well summed up.

[metal gear kal-el]

How did u come up with that?

[Silent Kal]

wow, cats. take a breath. ;)

but nicely done. "The Prosecution rests its case!"

[DukandHide]

Not bad we really got a built up over hyped 20 min show

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by rocky_841
very well summed up.

I agree:)

[KRAM-el]

Originally posted by my3cats
Correct me if I'm wrong but, did this episode manage to include something to piss-off every possible segment of SVs fanbase?

The Daily Planet has a job for you... and they're hiring!!! :lol:

[photogirl]

Lana Lana Lana Lana!!! Wow..I'm really get sick of hearing that name. I could never ever ever name a child that...poor kid.

[smallville_fetish]

Too bad this season started out really good and it seemed promising that it was everything we've waited to see..

1. A real Clana relationship with happy Clark (Well just Mortal)
2. Clana sex. (Mortal, Hidden)
3. Chlark interactions and adventures (ALL of the episodes)
4. Clois foreshadowing (Aqua, Lockdown, Reckoning)
5. Clex fight (Mortal)

Now let's go backwards.
1. Real Clana relationship no more, all a facade we saw coming the second Clark said no more secrets no more lifes.
2. Don't need to say anything there.
3. Still some good stuff, if you don't include all their conversations about Clark whinning about being normal, lying to Lana, etc.
4. Still there
5. That scene was only in Mortal, they seemed friendly again in Aqua (which was stupid) and then afterwards we got no interactions between the 2!

What you summarized my3cats, seems too accurate to me!
Almiles should stop teasing us, or lying altogether.

[Kreukie]

I still don't have a problem defending Lana on the boards.

Lana haters just hate Lana for everything and anything she does.

Not my problem. *shrugs*

[Shinzon2004]

I dont hate Lana,I like her,except that like they say she is not the center of the universe,I think that the series is about Superman growing up,but they reused Lana too much.

There is only one episode that wasnt about Lana and it was
"Exposed" where she wasnt anywhere....very few episodes with Lana absent but they have gone too far.

I expected too much of this episode...

[supercatmom]

I agree with everything you said, I am so sick of Clark pineing and whining about Lana.

Now it seems that we will have to watch Lex do it also.

And before for me one of the highlights of the show was to watch MR portrayal of Lex. But now watching pine over Lana just like Clark makes me to throw up.

[Supersonic]

Damn Straight man! If you ask me, Jonathan should have been spared; Lana should have died; The rift between Clark and Lex would expand so that it's even cooler, and Clark should start digging into Chloe! *That's* what should have happened =D

[Shinzon2004]

Trouble is,they cant kill Lana,because she is essential to the Superman mythos,if she were just another non essential
character they would had done so a long time ago...

However,tptb had killed other major Superman mythos in the series like Professor Hamilton...

I guess Clark will tell Lana in another way before the series ends...

[HalJordan4184]

Lana isn't essential to the mythos at all. She's mostly just there because, well, she isn't dead in the comics. She never really did much of anything useful there. She was just another damsel in distress when the time came for Lois to take a break.

ANd now, with all the retconning going on, she's becoming more like SMallville's Lana, to the point she's attempting to control Clark's life and marriage, because she knows what's best for him.

WTF?

[ox007]

I think that JK i essential to the mythos and to Clark! He's important also when Clark becomes Superman and he supports the Kent Farm!!Before Clark becomes journalist JK supported the Kents and now who will it be? That drunk Santa Clark saved few episodes earlier?

Or maybe Jor-L will send Kryptonian credit card to Clark ;)

[Shinzon2004]

Originally posted by ox007
I think that JK i essential to the mythos and to Clark! He's important also when Clark becomes Superman and he supports the Kent Farm!!Before Clark becomes journalist JK supported the Kents and now who will it be? That drunk Santa Clark saved few episodes earlier?

Or maybe Jor-L will send Kryptonian credit card to Clark ;)



Excuse me but who is Jor L? Dont you mean Jor El???


And I agree that Jonathan Kent is essential but he died
in the Movie series....

[ox007]

sure I meant Jor-El :)

[ravidubey]

Lana is used perfectly; Clark's childhood crush has evolved into pity, not love. He feels responsible for her parent's deaths. For emotional support he turns to Chloe. He has respect for Lois who is the only one strong, beautiful, and creative enough for him-- "Aqua" showed that.

"Reckoning" proved the burden of Clark's secret is too much for Lana to bear. Lana is too weak for Clark and too grounded in Smallville. She, like the Kent farm, is holding him back. Lois, OTOH, is inspired by AC who wants to save the world.

Lana's death was a message that she will never be strong or resourceful enough to withstand Lex's intense scrutiny-- unlike Chloe who can match wits with Lex all day. Pete knew he was out of his league and once Lex suspected him he moved away from Smallville.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by ravidubey
Lana is used perfectly; Clark's childhood crush has evolved into pity, not love. He feels responsible for her parent's deaths. For emotional support he turns to Chloe. He has respect for Lois who is the only one strong, beautiful, and creative enough for him-- "Aqua" showed that.
I agree with you. And I think the fact that she ran to Lex during Jonathan's party is also a sign that she is not loyal to Clark. As much as I had so many problems with Reckoning, it was an eye-opener for Clark about Lana and her vulnerabilities.

[MyOwnSuperhero]

That is what this episode promised and that is exactly what this episode gave me. For four and a half seasons, I've waited to see some things -

The end of Clana Ever since their first morbid conversation over the graves of Lana's parents, I've been waiting for Clark to wise up and get over that girl. We've always known that Clana would end, and I was personally thrilled with the fact that the end of that doomed pairing hinged on Clark making a painful but heroic choice.

A Significant Clex Rift Lex is finally starting to resemble the evil Lex of the future. Even here, his defeat leaves him alone, bitter and drunk. It's time to stop showing Lex as some poor misunderstood creature and let us see that Lex makes decisions that leave him empty and alone.

A Reason to Grow As long as Clark has both his parents to turn to, he seems willing to avoid making his own decisions on difficult moral matters. Finally, after eighteen years under JK's tuteledge, Clark will have to step up and be the man. He can't run to Dad for advice, he has to find that in himself. Now that JK's gone, Clark needs to do more for his mother. Lord knows, the boy has needed a kick in the pants for a while.

Clark sees that Actions have Consequences How many times has Clark gone and committed some act of super-powered stupidity? With Jonathan's death, he's had months to think about the mistake he made, and now he has experienced a real loss as a result. That's simply how it is - when Superman screws up, people usually die as a result. Clark has always needed to learn that, and this should finally teach him.

[HalJordan4184]

The problem is, Smallville takes Clark's lessons to extremes. Jon had to die, not for any real reason, just so CLark could learn his actions have consequences. Just because Clark has super powers, doesn't mean his problems have to have super ramifications.

Clark, in any other medium doesn't grow into the man he's destined to be, because his parent's died. Even in the movie, that was more a severence of his ties to Smallville. In the movie, he was already on that path. He had that acceptance of his powers, and who he was. But on Smallville, the death isn't serving as a severence to the town, and Clark being ready to move on, it's the REASON he STARTS down the path. It pushes him into being something, he doesn't want to be.

[MyOwnSuperhero]

I'm just saying that a lot of people have waited to see that lesson learned, and this episode delivered. And, as a result, people seem ticked off about it, which I don't understand.

Besides, Clark has been on that path for four and a half years - or were we just not watching the same show?

[Watching Smallville]

We were watching the same show, MyOwnSuperhero! For my part, I was hoping to see these lessons learned in a different way. I don't want Lex and Clark to rift over Lana. Eeesch! It just doesn't do either of them justice. I also would like Clark to realize that he needs to grow up the way most men realize this -- not because their fathers die in a life swap, but because they gain some wisdom by virtue of their actions and experiences. If Jonathan had died because he was ill, okay. But because Clark swapped him for Lana? Eeeeesch!

So that's all. :)

[MyOwnSuperhero]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I don't want Lex and Clark to rift over Lana. Eeesch! It just doesn't do either of them justice. It's not, not fully. Clark and Lex have been pulling apart for a couple years now. They haven't been friends for months and Lana's only now entering the picture. Plenty of other things have caused this. Just from early season:

- In Arrival, there was still fallout from the stones.
- Mortal - Lex was responsible for the release of the Belle reeve whackos, and then just watched what happened. I seem to recall a wee scuffle between the two.
- Aqua - First, Lex is developing a dangerous weapon and lying about it. Then Clark finds AC held captive and tortured in Lex's Lab.
- Splinter - Lex and Jonathan are now running opposite each other for Senate. I can only assume this didn't help Lex and Clark patch things up.

I could easily go on, or start into everything that happened in s4.

[HalJordan4184]

Watching Smallville, I agree. I don't like how Clark has to learn life lessons in super dramatic, super cliche'd ways. He can't become a man, without the show killing his primary male influence off. My dad's still alive. Though we are two very different people. We share a lot in common, but I have my own likes, dislikes, feelings, and thoughts on things as well. I don't understand tptb's contention that Smallville's Clark couldn't be his own man with jonathon still around.