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KristinIsAwesome
01-31-2006, 04:25 PM
So I watched it again today and it was much better this time.. I was able to think more rationally.

After watching, I realized how much Im gonna miss JK and how much things will be different around the Kent house and in Clarks like especially.

I was annoyed at first that Lana doesnt knwo the second time, but I realized that the storyline will prob br more interesting this way and we all know she will find out eventually... Maybe in the season finale if we're lucky.

The acting was unbelievable in the episode.

And the best part was still the funeral scene. They did a great job with that.

Lex in the background where no one could see him, paying his respects to JK, was prob my favorite part.



In conclusion.... Watch it a second time, because you will appreciate it more and you might take back some of the complaints you had (I know I did..)


What are your thoughts?



PS: I still wish Lana knew, but I understand ;)

The Great Ymmij
01-31-2006, 05:09 PM
Yeah, watching it a second time really makes it better even though I loved every second of it the first time. I wish Lana knew as well....

No-El
01-31-2006, 05:26 PM
JK's absence will be felt in all of us in the Vengence Episode, especially when we see his name (due to legal Union TV Contract) remaining in the opening credits till next Fall 2006!

superfreak80
01-31-2006, 05:26 PM
Am I imagining things?? I could have sworn that Lana looked over at the bushes where Clark was standing after he grabbed the bus.....could it be she may have seen him grab it???

i am probably just wishful thinking cause I want them together again.....

avidreader
01-31-2006, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by superfreak80
Am I imagining things?? I could have sworn that Lana looked over at the bushes where Clark was standing after he grabbed the bus.....could it be she may have seen him grab it???

i am probably just wishful thinking cause I want them together again.....

I am definitely with you on that one.

She saw something and it adds a nice little ironic twist to the whole thing.

FallenStar
01-31-2006, 05:43 PM
MAYBE she saw, or there is that theory that she remembered everything from before the time travel when she got into the accident 2X, but chooses to keep it to herself, considering that Clark's dad just died and whatnot. . .

Im sure there will be a nice fluffy revelation talk eventually . . .either that or she dies. . .

SmallvilleMan
01-31-2006, 05:49 PM
I only watch the first part, never the second.....

FallenStar
01-31-2006, 05:53 PM
trust me, the 1st part was MUCH better. . .
but still, its worth watching. . .GO WATCH IT! NOW!

hey does any1 know when its replaying?

F-Stop Blues
01-31-2006, 05:56 PM
I agree it is a much better ep the second time around.

jaime,oburg
01-31-2006, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I agree it is a much better ep the second time around.

Yes, I gotta admit. The episode is growing on me. Darn it! For a month all I posted was that I would accept anything in episode 100 but time travel and reversing anything. "Have the stones to see a story through no matter how many fans will be upset with who dies" is what I posted and what the heck did I get, just extactly what I said I would have a hard time accepting. Darn it I just knew tptb couldn't kill Lana off and they go with the whole life force swap. So much for a really shocking death. Didn't see Pa Kent getting it:rolleyes: Man the fans didn't see that coming:rolleyes:
I guess the episode is growing on me. Hey, maybe someday I won't think that Ageless was the worse episode ever. Hmmmm then again......:p

No-El
01-31-2006, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by jaime,oburg
Yes, I gotta admit. The episode is growing on me. Darn it! For a month all I posted was that I would accept anything in episode 100 but time travel and reversing anything. "Have the stones to see a story through no matter how many fans will be upset with who dies" is what I posted and what the heck did I get, just extactly what I said I would have a hard time accepting. Darn it I just knew tptb couldn't kill Lana off and they go with the whole life force swap. So much for a really shocking death. Didn't see Pa Kent getting it:rolleyes: Man the fans didn't see that coming:rolleyes:
I guess the episode is growing on me. Hey, maybe someday I won't think that Ageless was the worse episode ever. Hmmmm then again......:p



ugh!!!!

It's getting to you too!!!!! I can't believe it!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

jaime,oburg
02-01-2006, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by No-El
ugh!!!!

It's getting to you too!!!!! I can't believe it!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

You know the 5 stages are denial, shock, anger, grief, and acceptence. I guess I am finally getting to the acceptance part of this episode.:rotfl:

Cookie 28
02-01-2006, 05:47 AM
I have to admit, that I can finally watch the episode without being angry about the time reversal. But it is still really hard to think that Jonathan and Clark will not be having anymore of those great father, son talks. That was one of the best parts of the show. I will miss it terribly.

BadToad
02-01-2006, 08:39 AM
I enjoyed it a great deal more on a 2nd viewing. I think because watching it a 2nd time, I was able to let go of what I wanted it to be, and was able to appreciate it for what it was. Also, the 2nd time around the performances were even more impressive to me. I changed my opinion on this episode from a disappointed to a good, with some great moments. IMO, the funeral scene is a series highlight.

smallvillefan26
02-01-2006, 08:46 AM
I agree that the funeral scene was fantastic. Well-acted and beautifully shot. Right before the camera cuts to the actual funeral site, they show isolated shots of the farm, the animals, the Kent Farm sign, the swinging gate. They all look so cold and lifeless, especially with the snow, and I thought this was a great touch and made it very real. It really made me very sad, and upped the emotion during the funeral.

I really enjoyed the performances the second time I watched it. TW does a great job, as does MR (of course) and JS. Most everyone on the cast stepped up their game for this episode.

No-El
02-01-2006, 09:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by No-El ugh!!!! It's getting to you too!!!!! I can't believe it! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Originally posted by jaime,oburg
You know the 5 stages are denial, shock, anger, grief, and acceptence. I guess I am finally getting to the acceptance part of this episode.:rotfl:


**Sighs**

Oh well:\ at least there are more new episodes to come that will put the memory of Reckoning behind!:lol:

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 09:18 AM
OMG, I'm gone for two days and the board has turned to madness! Madness I tell you!

I thought i t was bad when i see people still can't tell jump from flight and now this???!!!

Thank God I found the Jack Daniels!

No-El
02-01-2006, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
OMG, I'm gone for two days and the board has turned to madness! Madness I tell you!

I thought i t was bad when i see people still can't tell jump from flight and now this???!!!

Thank God I found the Jack Daniels!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A lot of people found the JD that night all across the globe after Reckoning!:lol: :lol:

:(

Day of Reckoning
02-01-2006, 09:42 AM
The part at the funeral when the camera focuses on Lex was great. They nailed that, you definitely see the desire in Lex that he wants to be there for Clark and how sorry he was that Clark lost his dad.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Day of Reckoning
The part at the funeral when the camera focuses on Lex was great. They nailed that, you definitely see the desire in Lex that he wants to be there for Clark and how sorry he was that Clark lost his dad.

he feels so bad for clark that he's putting the full court press on the love of his life.

wow, with friends like these....(you know the rest)

greatercalling
02-01-2006, 10:04 AM
I wonder if Clark even noticed if the Luthers showed up to his father's funeral. He seemed pretty focused and kind of oblivious to everything except lana holding his hand. Lex did seem a bit sad, but what is he supposed to do at this point, if he really wanted to be Clark's friend he could as we saw in Lexmas. Lex has made his choice and that is himself, so though he may have been at the funeral, he probably going to keep pursuing Lana despite Clark. I think this season it has been interesting to see Lex get worse and worse, Lexmas was a real litmus test of how far he had gone, but then that redemption was still there.

I think the reckoning episode is going to be a real turning point with all characters and I cant wait to see what happens next.

KRAM-el
02-01-2006, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by No-El

A lot of people found the JD that night all across the globe after Reckoning!:lol: :lol:

:(

I know I did...
...and the 2nd time, I had more...
...and the th-th-th... third t-t-t-time.. I...I... * CRASH!*

* drags computer down w/ him as he falls off chair & slips into unconsciousness *

Day of Reckoning
02-01-2006, 10:24 AM
I know he'll still go after Lana, and we all know what side of Lex is going to prevail. But just for a second, you could tell he felt bad. Even though that won't last.

MyOwnSuperhero
02-01-2006, 11:18 AM
Of course Lex felt bad - he's lost a parent, remember? Even though he's making plays on Lana and even though his friendship with Clark is shot, he still wants that friendship to continue, and he wants to be there for his friend.

However, it might have just been a reminder that Lex's actions are as much at the root of this all as Clark's are. It was Lex that caused the accident that killed Lana, and the second accident that Clark stopped. Oh, the irony!

Johnny_Styles
02-01-2006, 12:00 PM
Yup you see a lot of more interesting things the
second time around.

photogirl
02-01-2006, 12:12 PM
I watched it a second time and still loved it!! It was still suspensful, but not as much as it was the first time I saw it. I was actually happy for Lana and Clark, because the major thing that bothers me about Clana is the whole "Secret" thing and when they were engaged she knew his secret, and I was happy for them....which is unusual, because usually I don't like Clana. I was still happy the second time around...maybe even happier, and the first time I watched it I was kind of dissapointed that JK died in stead of Lana, but I am happy now, because it will be interesting to watch her and Clark now that they are really over....I still found Chloe's lines funny, and touching....so that didn't change, and lionel is still really annoying. The funeral scene was still the saddest.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by MyOwnSuperhero
Of course Lex felt bad - he's lost a parent, remember? Even though he's making plays on Lana and even though his friendship with Clark is shot, he still wants that friendship to continue, and he wants to be there for his friend.

However, it might have just been a reminder that Lex's actions are as much at the root of this all as Clark's are. It was Lex that caused the accident that killed Lana, and the second accident that Clark stopped. Oh, the irony!

Now let's stop to analyze that statement. "of course lex felt bad".

when did lex luthor become the poster child for sympathy? he is a bad person. time after time he has chosen the wrong path. there is nothing left to feel sorry about.

KRAM-el
02-01-2006, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim

when did lex luthor become the poster child for sympathy?

We need to both get our DNA checked... it's GOTTA match!!!!!!:eek: ;)

pixiedust
02-01-2006, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
I enjoyed it a great deal more on a 2nd viewing. I think because watching it a 2nd time, I was able to let go of what I wanted it to be, and was able to appreciate it for what it was. Also, the 2nd time around the performances were even more impressive to me. I changed my opinion on this episode from a disappointed to a good, with some great moments. IMO, the funeral scene is a series highlight.

Thank you. I am so happy to see someone admit that. After reading lots and lots I posts, I really feel that one of the major reasons people didn't like this episode wasn't so much anything intrinsically wrong with it but because they went into it with so many expectations and maybe even their own agenda of what they wanted to happen that the episode never really stood a chance of satisfying them at all. I suppose that's one of the drawbacks of being so spoiled and discussing an episode for months before it has actually aired.

Granted some people won't like this episode after watching it ten times and that's okay because some people love eps that I roll my eyes at and wonder how they could possibly like such drivel (Ageless, Spell).

But this is such an important ep and I think a turning point to this series that I think it deserves a second look. And I think if a viewer can watch it without expectations and preconceived notions of what you want to happen, I think some might be pleasantly surprised at what they might find...that this was a wonderfully crafted and acted epsiode that will have long reaching effects for the future of Clark Kent and Smallville.

KRAM-el
02-01-2006, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by pixiedust
Thank you. I am so happy to see someone admit that. After reading lots and lots I posts, I really feel that one of the major reasons people didn't like this episode wasn't so much anything intrinsically wrong with it but because they went into it with so many expectations and maybe even their own agenda of what they wanted to happen that the episode never really stood a chance of satisfying them at all.

On the flip side... I became MORE diappointed with it after multiple viewings... and yes, w/ an OPEN mind. Why is it that the term "open mind" seems to always suggest "see it my way or else you're stupid" (closed mind). I HAVE an "open" mind -- I just beg to differ...

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 01:35 PM
man, the more times i watch it, the more the story falls apart.

i agree with the funeral scene being great.

NOTE: for me, whitney's dad's funeral was among the best scene's in all my years of watching tv). i guess i like funerals.

anyway, the whole premise of lana leaving the party to go be with lex is completely bogus. i mean jk would most assuredly have announced his son's engagement and therefore alot of pictures would have been taken which would haveneeded her presence.

let's see, clark = fiancee, lex = friend. who do you choose to stand beside????

gee lex, i'm sorry you that you lost a race that you had no business being in anyway since everyone hates you and your father because you are both criminals.

Dannyblue1
02-01-2006, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
Now let's stop to analyze that statement. "of course lex felt bad".

when did lex luthor become the poster child for sympathy?

Since the writers went out of there way to make him three-dimensional character who definately has a dark side, but has also demonstrated he has a "light" side on more than one occasion over the years.


he is a bad person. time after time he has chosen the wrong path. there is nothing left to feel sorry about.

Just because a character makes bad choices doesn't mean you can't sympathise with them. In fact, I think the best writers are able to make you sympathise with the bad guys. (On BtVS, who didn't feel bad for the evil Mayor, who got so upset when Faith was hurt. That's part of the reason he's one of that shows most popular villains.)

Also, Lex hasn't always been on the wrong path. In fact, he spent much of the series trying to walk the right path. It's only very recently that he seems to given up on that score. And, even still, he doesn't seem to have completely stepped onto that dark path just yet.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Dannyblue1

Just because a character makes bad choices doesn't mean you can't sympathise with them. In fact, I think the best writers are able to make you sympathise with the bad guys. (On BtVS, who didn't feel bad for the evil Mayor, who got so upset when Faith was hurt. That's part of the reason he's one of that shows most popular villains.)

Let's see, did I feel bad for the EVIL Mayor who wanted to kill everyone for his own benefit because Faith got hurt?????? Hmmmmm....let me think...........NO!

Just because a character makes bad decisions you can sympathize???? So Lex torturing Aquaman was simply a bad decision??????????????????

greatercalling
02-01-2006, 02:18 PM
ya lex is bad, he saw he could be good and turned away from it, not because lana died, but because he lacked power. lex will do anything to preserve and get more power and thats what makes him evil.

pixiedust
02-01-2006, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by KRAM-el
On the flip side... I became MORE diappointed with it after multiple viewings... and yes, w/ an OPEN mind. Why is it that the term "open mind" seems to always suggest "see it my way or else you're stupid" (closed mind). I HAVE an "open" mind -- I just beg to differ...

Since you only quoted the first paragraph of my post, perhaps you failed to read the last two where I said that some people could watch it 10 times and still not like it and that was fine and that there are eps that others love that I roll my eyes at. So could you please tell me anywhere in my post that I implied that you had to see it my way or else you are stupid?

I was repsonding to a multitude of posts that I had read that went into detail about the reason they didn't like it and that reason seemed to be that they came into the episode with an expected outcome and then were disappointed because those expectations were not met.

I never once implied that being open minded means that you have to see things my way and that you are closed minded if you don't. I'm open to many different views and I leave plenty of room for people to have a different opinion.

If you didn't come into watching the ep with a preconceived notion (which you said you were open minded so I am assuming you didn't) then my post didn't even apply to your situation.

No-El
02-01-2006, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by KRAM-el
I know I did...
...and the 2nd time, I had more...
...and the th-th-th... third t-t-t-time.. I...I... * CRASH!*

* drags computer down w/ him as he falls off chair & slips into unconsciousness *


:lol:

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Dannyblue1

Also, Lex hasn't always been on the wrong path. In fact, he spent much of the series trying to walk the right path. It's only very recently that he seems to given up on that score. And, even still, he doesn't seem to have completely stepped onto that dark path just yet.

He has not tried to walk the right path. From day 1 in Smallville his goal was to find out how CLark survived the crash and how he got Lex out of the car.

Lex has either done things for himself or to get back at his father.

If Lex wanted to be good, he'd give up all the Luthor money (and perks that go with it), get a job on his own (like 99% of the world) and make his life as a good person.

Hell, in Lexmas he had the chance for everything if only he made the right choice. Which choice did he make?

SO am I supposed to feel pity for the Hitler's, Bin LAden's and (insert homicidal maniac name here) because at one point "they weren't so bad"???

You know bad people can occasionally do good things to appease that thing they call a conscience. It does not make them a good person.

I would think after toruturing and almost killing Aquaman, the "Lex is really a good person" group would thin out a bit.

Dannyblue1
02-01-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
Let's see, did I feel bad for the EVIL Mayor who wanted to kill everyone for his own benefit because Faith got hurt?????? Hmmmmm....let me think...........NO!

Well, that's your own personal taste. A lot of us like villains with layers. A lot of BtVS fans really liked that they showed a different side of the Mayor by showing he could actually care for someone. Did that mean I didn't think he was evil and needed to be stopped? Certainly not. But having other dimensions made him more than a cliche'd, mustache twirling bad guy.


Just because a character makes bad decisions you can sympathize???? So Lex torturing Aquaman was simply a bad decision??????????????????

Something got lost in translation there. I don't sympathise with a bad guy because they make bad decisions. I said I can sympathise with a bad guy in spite of their bad decisions depending on how they are written. That doesn't make me stop seeing them as a bad guy, though. It just makes them more interesting and complex to me.

Also, Lex in "Aqua" seemed really out of character for me. Lex's over-the-top behavior came from out of the blue, and hasn't been seen since. It was like they wanted Lex to be really evil in that episode, so they made him so, with little build-up or follow through.

KRAM-el
02-01-2006, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Dannyblue1
with little build-up or follow through.

Sounds like a line in the Smallville writing team's "Mission Statement"... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

No-El
02-01-2006, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by KristinIsAwesome
So I watched it again today and it was much better this time.. I was able to think more rationally.

After watching, I realized how much Im gonna miss JK and how much things will be different around the Kent house and in Clarks like especially.

I was annoyed at first that Lana doesnt knwo the second time, but I realized that the storyline will prob br more interesting this way and we all know she will find out eventually... Maybe in the season finale if we're lucky.

The acting was unbelievable in the episode.

And the best part was still the funeral scene. They did a great job with that.

Lex in the background where no one could see him, paying his respects to JK, was prob my favorite part.



In conclusion.... Watch it a second time, because you will appreciate it more and you might take back some of the complaints you had (I know I did..)


What are your thoughts?



PS: I still wish Lana knew, but I understand ;)



Lex there at the funeral seemed inappropriate from one particular standpoint of him sanctioning Griff's actions to "knock JK out ot the Senate race.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Well, that's your own personal taste. A lot of us like villains with layers. A lot of BtVS fans really liked that they showed a different side of the Mayor by showing he could actually care for someone. Did that mean I didn't think he was evil and needed to be stopped? Certainly not. But having other dimensions made him more than a cliche'd, mustache twirling bad guy.



Something got lost in translation there. I don't sympathise with a bad guy because they make bad decisions. I said I can sympathise with a bad guy in spite of their bad decisions depending on how they are written. That doesn't make me stop seeing them as a bad guy, though. It just makes them more interesting and complex to me.



OK, I'm getting a little over-exhuberant and I apologize (i thappens sometimes). My personal view is that I feel absolutely no pity for "bad people". I'm a firm beleiver in "you reap what you sow". I think bad people deserve everything bad that comes their way times infinity and deserve nothing good.

Bad grammar and cliches aside, that's how i feel. Bad people = SCUM.

I love Lex Luthor the villain but hate him as the man.


Originally posted by No-El
Lex there at the funeral seemed inappropriate from one particular standpoint of him sanctioning Griff's actions to "knock JK out ot the Senate race.

but he respected him....:lol:


Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Also, Lex in "Aqua" seemed really out of character for me. Lex's over-the-top behavior came from out of the blue, and hasn't been seen since. It was like they wanted Lex to be really evil in that episode, so they made him so, with little build-up or follow through.

I would disagree (big shock, i know). I think this was a glimpse into Lex's true nature.

Dannyblue1
02-01-2006, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
SO am I supposed to feel pity for the Hitler's, Bin LAden's and (insert homicidal maniac name here) because at one point "they weren't so bad"???

You know bad people can occasionally do good things to appease that thing they call a conscience. It does not make them a good person.

I'm not going to address specific points about Lex because I realized they should be in the character forum. However, I will address how you seem to have completely twisted what I posted.

I didn't say I go around feeling sorry for truly evil people and their evil deeds. What I said was that I find villains who are three dimensional (and even sympathetic, on occasion) more interesting than the cliched, two-dimensional, mustache-twirling variety. I'm sure the only reason I can sympathise with these types of characters on occasion is because they are fictional constructs. They aren't real, and their evil deeds aren't real.

As for Lex, I don't think he's been bad from the very beginning. Just like Clark is on a journey towards becoming a hero, Lex has been on a journey towards becoming a villain. That's been one of the main premises of the show, and that's one of the things I found most interesting about SV.

But that's a discussion for the Lex forum.

No-El
02-01-2006, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim


but he respected him....:lol:





Respect and Treacherous behavior directed at the same individual you run against in politics???:confused:

Ooops, never forget it!

Reminded of our own politicians in government!:\

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 03:28 PM
ok, wasn't lois jk's campaign manager??? if so, then in the 2nd reality, why didn't anybody wonder where she was (earlier than they did)?

KRAM-el
02-01-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
ok, wasn't lois jk's campaign manager??? if so, then in the 2nd reality, why didn't anybody wonder where she was (earlier than they did)?

I got your back, Bro, but if we don't watch out, these "plot holes" are going to become "Black" holes. Sucking us ALL in, like the Kryptonian "vortex"...
* No! Don't throw me into the PZ! No! I'm sorry! AAGHHH!!! *

ImaVirus
02-01-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by No-El
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A lot of people found the JD that night all across the globe after Reckoning!:lol: :lol:

:(

Personally I chose Jagermeister that night. Although I love JD, it just wasn't going to be enough. :)

I have giving the episode 3 tries already to get better and sure enough it has. I loved it the first time I saw it, and can't get enough of the first 35 minutes. I still hate that JK is gone, but I do understand where they are headed with the show. I think I have seen the beginning of the show about 5 or 6 times. I blame youtube for that.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by KRAM-el
I got your back, Bro, but if we don't watch out, these "plot holes" are going to become "Black" holes. Sucking us ALL in, like the Kryptonian "vortex"...
* No! Don't throw me into the PZ! No! I'm sorry! AAGHHH!!! *

ah yes, but then we can become human-form replicators and thus have the ability to escape black holes. stargate sg-1, the ultimate distorter of real-world science!

cheriemonty
02-01-2006, 03:46 PM
I watched it again the morning after and that time i cried all the way through the episode, the first time I just cried at the end when Jonathan died. I feel so sorry for poor Clark, he is such a great person and he can't be with the woman he loves because he is afraid that when he tells Lana his secret she will die again and plus his dad dies and you know he feels like it is his fault since he saved Lana.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by cheriemonty
I watched it again the morning after and that time i cried all the way through the episode, the first time I just cried at the end when Jonathan died. I feel so sorry for poor Clark, he is such a great person and he can't be with the woman he loves because he is afraid that when he tells Lana his secret she will die again and plus his dad dies and you know he feels like it is his fault since he saved Lana.

God Bless You. That is the way we should feel about Clark/Superman. Kudos to you.

KRAM-el
02-01-2006, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
God Bless You. That is the way we should feel about Clark/Superman. Kudos to you.

Awwww, go easy on her... :( My wife's stepmom would cry at the Grand Opening of a K-Mart. Some people just do. ;)

jwoodie
02-01-2006, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
God Bless You. That is the way we should feel about Clark/Superman. Kudos to you.

Wow, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say that is a wildly inappropriate bit of sarcasm. Am I right? If so, then I'd say bullying doesn't become you, BoSoxJim. And if not, then I'll take my lumps for jumping to the wrong conclusion. But given the tone of discussion this afternoon, I think it is warranted.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by jwoodie
Wow, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say that is a wildly inappropriate bit of sarcasm. Am I right? If so, then I'd say bullying doesn't become you, BoSoxJim. And if not, then I'll take my lumps for jumping to the wrong conclusion. But given the tone of discussion this afternoon, I think it is warranted.

Actually, I was complementing her. The main reason why I'm so upset at the writers of the show is that somehow they turned a guy who is supposed to be the paragon of virtue (yes makes mistakes) into a cold-blooded killer (yes, people are actually calling him this).

I was happy to see at least one person who still thinks clark is a good person.

jwoodie
02-01-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by BoSoxJim
Actually, I was complementing her. The main reason why I'm so upset at the writers of the show is that somehow they turned a guy who is supposed to be the paragon of virtue (yes makes mistakes) into a cold-blooded killer (yes, people are actually calling him this).

I was happy to see at least one person who still thinks clark is a good person.

Fair enough, my sincere apologies.

BoSoxJim
02-01-2006, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by jwoodie
Fair enough, my sincere apologies.

no need to apologize. believe me, there will be times when your comment will be appropriate.

i get a little too amped up at times :o