Should Lois Have Died Instead?

[No-El]

If anyone did not notice at the beginning of the episode, Lois was in the Talon stock room, on her cell phone!

She stepped up onto a small footstool to reach for something, the camera was quick but kept the package name in view of what she finally grabbed for!

Hostess DING DONGS

Now, we know Lana arrived to catch Lois in time before she fell backward.

That same incident was played out again, in Jor-El's Time-Line Reversal as we see Clark at the Talon Rally discovering "something is not right" and finding an unconscious Lois on the floor just in time to keep her from being electrocuted!

So, this is one of those "BALANCE of NATURE" scenarios that Jor-El spoke of to Clark!

If Lana was saved, then it would have been Lois to BITE IT, but Clark saved Lois only to now realize that Jonathan was the "Ultimate Rectification" sought to compensate for the BALANCE lost in the Universe!

Do you think it should have been Lois and not Jonathan?

You may vote or discuss!

[bkzcici]

As much as I wish Lois will not come in between Clark and Lana.. but Jonathon has to go. What will Lois' death do to Clark? Sad, certainly. But Jonathon's death will be more symbolic.

[MBCorp]

You know, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about a totally different subject....

[scoobycookies]

If Lana was saved, then it would have been Lois to BITE IT, but Clark saved Lois only to now realize that Jonathan was the "Ultimate Rectification" sought to compensate for the BALANCE lost in the Universe!
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

[No-El]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.


Very good assessment! Just as the writers intended!

Very good indeed!

[Slytherin Princess]

very well written scoobycookies! :D

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

That's some good analysis there. And awww for the universe not wanting to kill off Clark's greatest love, Lois. Funny though how the universe keeps wanting to kill off Lana. :lol:

[Rafael122]

Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about a totally different subject....

You too? :lol:

[scoobycookies]

^^ :rotfl: I was thinking ding dongs as in her addiction to cookies and sweets but I'm thinking that's not what y'all are talking about either ;) :rotfl:

[SteveS]

Never believed in the 3 Fates (3 sisters) and still don't but the universe in balance or natural balance of life and death makes a bit more sense to me. Sorry, I don't think an intelligent 'fate' saved Lois.

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El
If anyone did not notice at the beginning of the episode, Lois was in the Talon stock room, on her cell phone!

She stepped up onto a small footstool to reach for something, the camera was quick but kept the package name in view of what she finally grabbed for!

Hostess DING DONGS

Now, we know Lana arrived to catch Lois in time before she fell backward.

That same incident was played out again, in Jor-El's Time-Line Reversal as we see Clark at the Talon Rally discovering "something is not right" and finding an unconscious Lois on the floor just in time to keep her from being electrocuted!

So, this is one of those "BALANCE of NATURE" scenarios that Jor-El spoke of to Clark!

If Lana was saved, then it would have been Lois to BITE IT, but Clark saved Lois only to now realize that Jonathan was the "Ultimate Rectification" sought to compensate for the BALANCE lost in the Universe!

Do you think it should have been Lois and not Jonathan?

You may vote or discuss!

WTF, HELLO Lois is Clark/SUPERMAN's Wife & soulmate. Their's no way in Hell she would die before her time .

Not to mention if she died, Their would be NO SUPERMAN.

[scoobycookies]

Originally posted by SteveS
Never believed in the 3 Fates (3 sisters) and still don't but the universe in balance or natural balance of life and death makes a bit more sense to me. Sorry, I don't think an intelligent 'fate' saved Lois.
I wasn't referring to the 3 fates and it doesn't have to be some tangible fate anyhow, you can call it destiny then. Just as Clark is destined to become Superman.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Well said scoobycookies :D

I love the shoutout to Lois and Clark as well. Since Lois on L&C always kept chocolate around in case of an emergency ;)

[KEakaCK]

My mother always told me that too much chocolate can be detrimental...Lois shows how its so true :D. Haha

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

The only problem that I have with this theory is that if Lois had died, Jorel's prophesy would not have come true.....or at the very least, it would have been extremely weak based on the choice of words.....which are in the present tense....."someone you love".....not someone you will come to love. Right now he likes or really.....sort of likes....Lois.....definitely NOT loves. So no matter how you slice it......the next person in line after Lana (in the present) is either Johnathon or Martha......maybe even Chloe. If the writers had this planned since "Hidden", they should have probably used the words "Special in your Life" instead of "Someone you Love"....again.....present tense. The word "Life" would not have limited the prophesy to just the present. Interesting idea but not logical if one really thinks it through. I think Lois' fall is there just to show that something has changed in both timelines, and to hint to Clark the seriousness of what he has started. If I were a Lois fan (I am.....but not first and foremost), I would take it as more of a Smallville anvil.....than as anything to do with fate.


Originally posted by MBCorp
That's some good analysis there. And awww for the universe not wanting to kill off Clark's greatest love, Lois. Funny though how the universe keeps wanting to kill off Lana. :lol:


I hate to say it (although probably only because as of late, two episodes to be exact, Lana has been really interesting to watch) but that was damn funny.

[krpto]

eventually jonathon would have goten in a fight with lionel and had the heart attack so someone else still shold die to balance the universe.

[scoobycookies]

The only problem that I have with this theory is that if Lois had died, Jorel's prophesy would not have come true.....or at the very least, it would have been extremely weak based on the choice of words.....which are in the present tense....."someone you love".....not someone you will come to love. Right now he likes or really.....sort of likes....Lois.....definitely NOT loves.
It could mean that by the time the day came for a life to be taken, Clark had developed some love for Lois, not necessarily romantic love but friendship love, and as little as it might be for some it was enough for the universe to sense and the power behind that destiny. She did live with the Kent family for sometime and help JK with the election, so I could see Clark feeling like she was part of the family now.

Or more likely :lol: , the writers didn't know what they were going to write for the "reckoning" episode yet or they would have gone back and changed the line in "Hidden". The only thing they planned in "Hidden" was probably that JK would die. ;) Not how he would die (via time reversal).

[No-El]

Nice and educated responses folks!

Now MBCorp, was wondering about the title of this thread and the implied meaning, something which I wanted to address in further in this thread was also the symbolism of Lois choice of Junk Food!

The DING DONGS!!

No doubt most of you agree that packaging name is representative of how some of you feel about the future Mrs. Superman/Lois Kent!

As it stands now, Lois is somewhat in my view a real DING DONG!! But, there are times just recently she has been counselor to cousin Chloe and now Lana!

But overall she has a hell of a way to go before she becomes any thing of the Lois you all know and LOVE!

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

So does Clark, but that doesn't really have any bearing on this thread does it ;)

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El

But overall she has a hell of a way to go before she becomes any thing of the Lois you all know and LOVE!

Not as much as a certain, Stupid Whiny Super powered Alien Farmboy. Clark's got a long way to go before becoming SUPERMAN.

WAY more than Lois becoming The Ace Reporter, All Lois need is The intrest in Journalism and BANG, Ace Reporter Lois Lane Of The Daily Planet is born .

[No-El]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
Not as much as a certain, Stupid Whiny Super powered Alien Farmboy. Clark's got a long way to go before becoming SUPERMAN.

WAY more than Lois becoming The Ace Reporter, All Lois need is The intrest in Journalism and BANG, Ace Reporter Lois Lane Of The Daily Planet is born .


And now the QUESTION!!


Is there time enough, to progress BOTH especially Lois, to the point of Ending Smallville, without a doubt, that they are ready to assume the FULL MANTLE of their DESTINIES???? :confused:

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El
And now the QUESTION!!


Is there time enough, to progress BOTH especially Lois, to the point of Ending Smallville, without a doubt, that they are ready to assume the FULL MANTLE of their DESTINIES???? :confused:

Yes,

[scoobycookies]

yeah there is always enough time. It's not a question of time, it's the question of writing. A good writer can do it. ;)

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by No-El
And now the QUESTION!!


Is there time enough, to progress BOTH especially Lois, to the point of Ending Smallville, without a doubt, that they are ready to assume the FULL MANTLE of their DESTINIES???? :confused:

Clark will need to do a complete 180 to even be close to the Superman we all know.

Lois she's almost there, she's progressing well :)

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
Not as much as a certain, Stupid Whiny Super powered Alien Farmboy. Clark's got a long way to go before becoming SUPERMAN.

WAY more than Lois becoming The Ace Reporter, All Lois need is The intrest in Journalism and BANG, Ace Reporter Lois Lane Of The Daily Planet is born .

WORD. Oh dear god, so much WORD. I can much more easily see Lois becoming the iconic Lois Lane than see SV's BDA becoming Superman. In fact, I'll go even further to say that both Lex and Clark are so far from their iconic selves that I really can't take any complaints about Lois all that seriously. But, geez, especially Clark. It will be easy for them to get Lois interested in journalism, she's already shown interest in politics and by becoming campaign manager and helping Jonathan to beat Lex she's proved to Lex that she's not a muffin peddler. So yeah, all they have to do now is have her visit Chloe at the DP and have her show some interest in what Chloe's doing there.

[No-El]

Originally posted by MBCorp
WORD. Oh dear god, so much WORD. I can much more easily see Lois becoming the iconic Lois Lane than see SV's BDA becoming Superman. In fact, I'll go even further to say that both Lex and Clark are so far from their iconic selves that I really can't take any complaints about Lois all that seriously. But, geez, especially Clark. It will be easy for them to get Lois interested in journalism, she's already shown interest in politics and by becoming campaign manager and helping Jonathan to beat Lex she's proved to Lex that she's not a muffin peddler. So yeah, all they have to do now is have her visit Chloe at the DP and have her show some interest in what Chloe's doing there.


Yes that is the possibility of Lois going over to the DP and all she needs is the boost though she does not have the credentials or journalist education!

Lois has come a long way thus far, even from her muffin peddling image (which by the way, was the name of the Thread I started in the 'Solitude' Thread....."Lois' Muffins") Great responses in that one with all the ensuing "Double Entandres"!:lol: :lol:

[Timester]

Who here have seen BTTF2 (I hope everyone did)? Remember the Grays Sports Almanac? It's the same thing. These are the consequences of time travel. Like a little stone falling into a lake, creating big waves (or the "Butterfly Effect").

Although they used the "History balances itself" card (a computer game called "Legacy of Kain" explains this perfectly), Lois is not part of that balance. Wait, it does, she wasn't supposed to die, so was saved by Clark. But the Lois' accident was simply part of the consequences of time traveling.

The only time History balanced itself was when Lana was saved. Someone else that Clark loved had to go.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Timester
Who here have seen BTTF2 (I hope everyone did)? Remember the Grays Sports Almanac? It's the same thing. These are the consequences of time travel. Like a little stone falling into a lake, creating big waves (or the "Butterfly Effect").

Although they used the "History balances itself" card (a computer game called "Legacy of Kain" explains this perfectly), Lois is not part of that balance. Wait, it does, she wasn't supposed to die, so was saved by Clark. But the Lois' accident was simply part of the consequences of time traveling.

The only time History balanced itself was when Lana was saved. Someone else that Clark loved had to go.


No, not quite right!

Start with the last statement.....Lana was saved, yes, but that still left the Universe UN-balanced, and thus needed to compensate again for Clark's save of Lana by seeking out another.....Jonathan Kent!

Now the first part of your statement!

Even when Lois was saved in BOTH Time-Lines as the Destined One for the FUTURE Superman's wife!

[Timester]

Originally posted by No-El
Start with the last statement.....Lana was saved, yes, but that still left the Universe UN-balanced, and thus needed to compensate again for Clark's save of Lana by seeking out another.....Jonathan Kent!

That's what I said. History balanced itself when Lana was saved. Someone else that Clark loved had to go.

Lois. It wasn't because of her being future Mrs. Kent. It was because the accident never happened in the first time. History's balance is a tricky thing. Why would her die when she never was supposed to in the first time?

[No-El]

Originally posted by Timester
That's what I said. History balanced itself when Lana was saved. Someone else that Clark loved had to go.

Lois. It wasn't because of her being future Mrs. Kent. It was because the accident never happened in the first time. History's balance is a tricky thing. Why would her die when she never was supposed to in the first time?


Ok, we have the Lois part resolved with your statement!

But, before Lana's car accident the Universe was Un-Balanced, right?

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El


Lois has come a long way thus far, even from her muffin peddling image (which by the way, was the name of the Thread I started in the 'Solitude' Thread....."Lois' Muffins") Great responses in that one with all the ensuing "Double Entandres"!:lol: :lol:

In my opinion Lois has come a long way since her first appearence in "Cursade"

Lois has alawys had The skill's to become The Reporter thanks to The Way her Dad (General Sam Lane) Brought her up .

The only thing she's missing is The Desire in Journalism. And Ace Reporter Lois Joanne Lane for The Daily Planet is Born .

[Timester]

Originally posted by No-El
But, before Lana's car accident the Universe was Un-Balanced, right?

History was always balanced. The only time it wasn't balanced was when Clark saved Lana until Jonathan passing by. Then, History choose itself "target" to balance itself. A matter of seconds, nothing more.

[scoobycookies]

What about JorEl's speech. Universe was unbalanced due to Clark's power restoration/resurrection. Why would history be balanced when Lana is saved? You mean dies right? The universe was balanced when someone Clark loves dies, in payment for Clark's mistake.

And in this case, the first opportunity for that was with Lois. Lois, Lana and Jonathon were all in danger. It's just that Lana and Jonathon were meant to die in their respective timelines 1 and 2, and Lois was not meant to die in any timeline, due to destiny.

The accident did happen in timeline 1, Lois turned the water on in the sink and reached for the cookies and fell. That is why Lana had to push her back up on the stool.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Timester
History was always balanced. The only time it wasn't balanced was when Clark saved Lana until Jonathan passing by. Then, History choose itself "target" to balance itself. A matter of seconds, nothing more.


Ok?

What I am really getting at is Clark's resurrection in Hidden and Jor-El made the statement that Clark's returned lifeforce needed to be compensated for:

Note the dialog word for word:

Jor-El: “….You will return with ALL your NATURAL GIFTS…unfortunately, this Rectification does not come without a price. (PART-A) The Life of Someone close to you will be exchanged for yours.

Clark: No! No! I would never ask for that!

Jor-El: You already did, when you decided to relinquish your powers and disobey me. It was your choice. (the Lana Factor)

Clark: Then, just don’t bring me back!

Jor-El: It’s too late. For everything in Nature, there is a balance. (PART-B) The Life force that has been returned to you, will soon be taken from (pause)…from someone you Love.

You are about to face your Darkest Hour my son. But remember, the lessons that we learn from pain, are the ones that make us the strongest. Always know that I love you! (energy essence given)

Accordingly the Nature at the Time Jor-El spoke to Clark was unbalanced because Jor-El restored his son in the FOS!

[Christine C]

The first time around Jorel told Clark he would loose someone he loved, his life for theirs. The second time Jorel said the universe had to balance itself out for Lana's death. To me, I thought this meant anyone could have died, not just someone Clark loved. Its true, the problem with the Lois theory is Clark does not love Lois now so why would she be chosen. If she had died the first time he would not be that effected at all. Clark saving her the second time may say Lois is meant to have a future with Clark, but I also believed they let us think Lois was dead to tease Chlois fans. They cut away after we see Clark picking her up off the floor, first to JK talking on the phone to Lionel, and then, take us to the scene with Lex and Lana. We don't know Lois is alive, or possibly severely, injured until we see her going out to the ambulance later.

[Timester]

We have to see it in 4th Dimension, that's how time works. We live in the "Now". History doesn't deal with the "Now", it deals with the past, present and future at the same time. It's un-temporal. By the moment Clark came to life, the History already balanced itself by taking a life in the near future. It was already set that would happen.

PS: This is why I hate the "one-timeline-only" theory so much, unless it's very very well written.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Timester
We have to see it in 4th Dimension, that's how time works. We live in the "Now". History doesn't deal with the "Now", it deals with the past, present and future at the same time. It's un-temporal. By the moment Clark came to life, the History already balanced itself by taking a life in the near future. It was already set that would happen.

PS: This is why I hate the "one-timeline-only" theory so much, unless it's very very well written.


And I take it this episode 'Reckoning' had time-line flaws poorly written by Smallville's writing staff??:confused:

[Timester]

Originally posted by No-El
And I take it this episode 'Reckoning' had time-line flaws poorly written by Smallville's writing staff??:confused:

No flaws, but not explained. It was used as a Deus Ex Machina, just to fullfil their purposes.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Timester
No flaws, but not explained. It was used as a Deus Ex Machina, just to fullfil their purposes.



Ah, yeah I see!

Good point and wondering if they employ that same method in their other episodes?:confused:

[scoobycookies]

Originally posted by Christine C
Its true, the problem with the Lois theory is Clark does not love Lois now so why would she be chosen.
I think this was more a tease for the Clois fans, that aha Lois is Clark's greatest love even if he doesn't know it deep down. There isn't much of a point to having Lois fall and almost be electrocuted otherwise. If they had merely wanted to show a timeline effect, they didn't need to include Lois and could have done something much simpler (something not fatal). This would have left time for Clark/Jonathon scenes in a very important Jonathon ep. The fact that they left the Lois scenes in makes me think they had a purpose.


Originally posted by Timester
PS: This is why I hate the "one-timeline-only" theory so much, unless it's very very well written.
:lol: Well we don't know how the writers approached it (one timeline or multiple timelines) or if they know anything about timelines. I think I prefer the multiple timeline theory more. That Lana and Jonathon were meant to die in timeline 1 and 2, and Lois wasn't meant to die in either.

[No-El]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
I think this was more a tease for the Clois fans, that aha Lois is destined to be with Clark. There isn't much of a point to having Lois fall and almost be electrocuted otherwise.


:lol: Well we don't know how the writers approached it (one timeline or multiple timelines) or if they know anything about timelines. I think I prefer the multiple timeline theory more. That Lana and Jonathon were meant to die in timeline 1 and 2, and Lois wasn't meant to die in either.


I think the point of having Lois fall from her footstool was for "dramatic effect" within the story as we were taken from scene to scene not knowing the finally outcome!

Spoilers did that for the most part!

[scoobycookies]

I don't think there was much dramatic effect when alot of people didn't even remember Lois falling from the stool. The drama is in the "will history repeat itself", will Lana die again even though Clark reversed time.

If the Lois fall didn't have a purpose, the writers would have included more of the Clark/Jonathon scenes as it is Jonathon's death ep.

[No-El]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
I don't think there was much dramatic effect when alot of people didn't even remember Lois falling from the stool. The drama is in the "will history repeat itself", will Lana die again even though Clark reversed time.

If the Lois fall didn't have a purpose, the writers would have included more of the Clark/Jonathon scenes as it is Jonathon's death ep.


The Lois fall was a sort of "B" sub-sub plot meant to throw us off I believe as we were riveted to the Lana Factor!

[beefywellingtom]

Anyone but me hoping that Chloe turns out to be "lois lane"? Remember in S3 (I think, maybe S2) she used the name for one of the pieces she wrote for the Daily Planet. That could be another one of those things that will be ignored. But I want to see Chloe and Clark together. Let's start a letter campaign. LOL

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

No because Al Gough said in an interview last week that it's not going to happen. Lois is Lois and Chloe is Chloe.

Anyways that's off topic for this thread.

[No-El]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
No because Al Gough said in an interview last week that it's not going to happen. Lois is Lois and Chloe is Chloe.

Anyways that's off topic for this thread.



***********BIG SIGH in Despair************


Well, at least I was reminded of this sad fact, at least for me!:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

:(

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
No because Al Gough said in an interview last week that it's not going to happen. Lois is Lois and Chloe is Chloe.


I'm glad he did, I know how much a lot of Chloe fans want her to be Lois, but the fact of the matter is It's not ment to be.

You all need to come to grips with that .

[beefywellingtom]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
No because Al Gough said in an interview last week that it's not going to happen. Lois is Lois and Chloe is Chloe.

Anyways that's off topic for this thread.

I guess I should have fleshed out my thought process so I'd be more "on topic"... The discussion of the purpose of showing Lois' death made me wonder, why even bother when we all know that LOIS can't die? So if they threw it in there could they be tinkering around with the Idea? And just because "Big AL" says it won't happen doesn't mean it won't happen. Lest we bring up the infamous "No flights, no tights" rule. *how's that for on topic* LOL

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Timester
History was always balanced. The only time it wasn't balanced was when Clark saved Lana until Jonathan passing by. Then, History choose itself "target" to balance itself. A matter of seconds, nothing more.

I don't believe in this fate/balance of the universe, but even that aside, it doesn't make sense. If death is a being that exists (like the Grim Reaper) and would choose to kill off people or maintain a balance, why would it have to be someone that Clark loves? Why not choose someone else? It's obvious TPTB did that for ratings. Also, even if death is an intelligent being, it would have taken a whole bunch of people from Smallville since Clark's arrival to Earth, so I would think the quota would have been reached a long time ago.

Even if you believe in fate, it chose Lois as a death target back in Recruit and it always took someone to interfere with the normal sequence of events to save her. And since there are infinite timelines that could exist besides the ones shown, she would have to die in one of them. Consider one timeline where Clark would have never gotten his powers back after Eric took them in Leech. If the events would have continued and Lois did come to Smallville, things would be very different.

[Vatusia]

Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about a totally different subject....

Me too, MBCorp! :rotfl:

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by beefywellingtom
And just because "Big AL" says it won't happen doesn't mean it won't happen. Lest we bring up the infamous "No flights, no tights" rule. *how's that for on topic* LOL

Look I know you Chloe= Lois fans want Chloe to become Lois, it isn't going to happen. Chloe's a great character, But she's Not Lois Lane & she never will be.

You Chloe =Lois fans, should just actsept Chloe for who she is. Instead of hoping for her to become something she not .

"The NO Flights, No TIGHTS" was a stupid rule to make up, because in order to tell The Story right

At The Age of 17 (Clark discovers he has The power of Flight. in the mythology) We saw that in "Cursade" When Kal-EL flew

The Tights will be seen in The Series finale. In order for This part of The story to end .

I presonaliy took the "TNFNT" as a slogun for Smallville fans to remember, like STAR WARS fans
"May The Force Be with You" .


I knew that a some point Clark would fly. and while the name Clark Kent wasn't mention but his Kryptonian name Kal-EL was, I still saw it as Clark Flew .

[Jellie]

Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about a totally different subject....

:lol: :lol:

same here.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

:lol:

Anyways the "no tights no flight" they got around that by saying it was Kal-El who flew, and technically it was, cause Clark hasn't flown since.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about a totally different subject....

didn't we all??
:lol:

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about a totally different subject....

lol me too .

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Lois's boobs :D

[No-El]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
Look I know you Chloe= Lois fans want Chloe to become Lois, it isn't going to happen. Chloe's a great character, But she's Not Lois Lane & she never will be.

You Chloe =Lois fans, should just actsept Chloe for who she is. Instead of hoping for her to become something she not .

"The NO Flights, No TIGHTS" was a stupid rule to make up, because in order to tell The Story right

At The Age of 17 (Clark discovers he has The power of Flight. in the mythology) We saw that in "Cursade" When Kal-EL flew

The Tights will be seen in The Series finale. In order for This part of The story to end .

I presonaliy took the "TNFNT" as a slogun for Smallville fans to remember, like STAR WARS fans
"May The Force Be with You" .


I knew that a some point Clark would fly. and while the name Clark Kent wasn't mention but his Kryptonian name Kal-EL was, I still saw it as Clark Flew .


PETER WEST!

You have it on authority that "The Tights will be seen in The Series finale....??" :confused:

OR

Is this an expressed desire as we all have for certain other topics of interest?


Originally posted by PETER WEST
lol me too .

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Lois's boobs :D


Yes we can talk about Lois' boobs which I am sure Superman will thoroughly ENJOY!:p

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El
PETER WEST!

You have it on authority that "The Tights will be seen in The Series finale....??" :confused:

OR

Is this an expressed desire as we all have for certain other topics of interest?




Yes we can talk about Lois' boobs which I am sure Superman will thoroughly ENJOY!:p

I have proof The tights will be seen in The series finale episode (The final Episode)

In The second half of Now Playing.com’s interview with Smallville co-creator Al Gough tells NP that Clark Will wear The Super suit in The series finale.

Here's a brief snippet from the article:


“I say seven seasons,” Gough admits. “It seems to be what shows in this genre can do and do well. Certainly in our case suddenly you’re bumping up against ‘Why the f*ck isn’t he putting on the suit?’ I say that’s probably a good number. Will it end with him putting on the suit? And Lex making that last step to evil? Yeah, absolutely.”


Click Here (http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/2279/2/) To read the full interveiw.


Yeah with Lois's "Ding" "Dongs", SUPERMAN/Clark will have a lot of fun. While have SUPER Sex with Lois .

[boygenius]

Jonathan was going to die anyway. It was between Lois and Lana for rectification to take place.

[No-El]

Originally posted by boygenius
Jonathan was going to die anyway. It was between Lois and Lana for rectification to take place.


That is the impression I got at first, that Jonathan had the debilitating heart condition that required frequent and permanent medication.

And, that Lana and Lois were the ones on the "Jor-El's Hit List"!

[Christine C]

Al G. said people should be allowed to dream so let them. Also, no one is saying Chlois is happening. I for one just found it interesting they chose to let us think Lois may be dead, or near dead. Now why do that? Clark Kent does not love her in this time period, that has not even happened yet, she was not chosen because she's someone he loves. If she had died Chloe could have turned out to be the reporter Clark eventually falls in love with. I think that is what they were doing. Changing the timeline can change anything. I personally feel bad JK died. I thought they'd give him till the end of the Series.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Like someone said they did that to show Lois can't and won't die. That her destiny is too great for her not to live. Same could be said for Lana too.

[No-El]

They put the Lois Factor in there to serve as tease also besides the obvious future she is Destined for!

[clois1938]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Like someone said they did that to show Lois can't and won't die. That her destiny is too great for her not to live. Same could be said for Lana too.
that's how I saw it too.

:lol: I thought this thread was gonna be about Lois' er :eek: <--this little icon is so cute, reminds me of Clark checking out her dingdongs in "Exposed"

[smallville_fetish]

That would've been a sad way for Lois to die... reaching for ding dongs then falling off her stool hitting her head on the floor and passing out.. only to be electricuted... yeah a very sad way for anyone to die... let that be a lesson to all girls: stick to your diet. Not like Lois who cheated and thought she wasn't be keeping her sweets and junk food higher and harder to reach.

Lois is not going to die and she never will esp if her character and the clois ship hasn't even started for real yet.

[commencement_rox]

i think erica durance is hot and clark needs to get with lois cause she is hot as heck

[No-El]

Originally posted by smallville_fetish
That would've been a sad way for Lois to die... reaching for ding dongs then falling off her stool hitting her head on the floor and passing out.. only to be electricuted... yeah a very sad way for anyone to die... let that be a lesson to all girls: stick to your diet. Not like Lois who cheated and thought she wasn't be keeping her sweets and junk food higher and harder to reach.

Lois is not going to die and she never will esp if her character and the clois ship hasn't even started for real yet.


smallville_fetish, that is a good counsel to dieters everywhere as a lesson served and thus narrowly avoided by Lois, thanks to Lana in the first time-line and then Clark in the second time-line!

Wonder Lois!!!
Superman's Future Wife!! :p

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El


Wonder Lois!!!
Superman's Future Wife!! :p

lol,I Love Lois Lane . :D

[Toppa]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

I agree with you.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by No-El
smallville_fetish, that is a good counsel to dieters everywhere as a lesson served and thus narrowly avoided by Lois, thanks to Lana in the first time-line and then Clark in the second time-line!

Wonder Lois!!!
Superman's Future Wife!! :p

Yeah it would be a terrible way to go :eek: I'm so klutzy I could see myself doing the same :eek:

It's eerie how much she looks like she could be Wonder Woman in that pic :eek:

[No-El]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
lol,I Love Lois Lane . :D


I knew that pic would smoke you out!!!:lol:

Sooner or later I knew IT!!:p

Wonder Lois!!

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El
I knew that pic would smoke you out!!!:lol:

Sooner or later I knew IT!!:p

Wonder Lois!!

lol :lol: :D

You have to admit Lois looks absolutely gorgeous .

:D

[No-El]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
lol :lol: :D

You have to admit Lois looks absolutely gorgeous .

:D


Well, yes!

Which explains why ED just got recently hitched just after or during her filming Season 4 with TW!

In reality,I personally see the beauty in both their right ED's Lois and AM's Chloe!! Who both have current attachments/beaus etc....

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El
Well, yes!

Which explains why ED just got recently hitched just after or during her filming Season 4 with TW!

In reality,I personally see the beauty in both their right ED's Lois and AM's Chloe!! Who both have current attachments/beaus etc....

:D

I guess it does.

I do too, Lois & Chloe are two beautiful women .;)

More so than The PINK ONE :rolleyes:

[No-El]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
:D

I guess it does.

I do too, Lois & Chloe are two beautiful women .;)

More so than The PINK ONE :rolleyes:


Ha!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Agreed!

btw, I saw post of her response to the flack she gets about her size 5'4" compared to AM's 5'5" and (correct me if I'm wrong) ED's 5'9"!

The Pink One, says she used to be called "Half Portion" by her folks etc.... when she was younger. But, it is more of the portrayal attached to her as the writers dictate!

To be somewhat fair to the actress NOT the character!

Note the link to Ask Men.com and see if you agree with the AM's approval rating! Maybe ED's in there too somewhere!:confused:

Ask Men's AM (http://www.askmen.com/women/celeb_profiles_actress/8_allison_mack.html)

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by No-El
Ha!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Note the link to Ask Men.com and see if you agree with the AM's approval rating! Maybe ED's in there too somewhere!:confused:

Ask Men's AM (http://www.askmen.com/women/celeb_profiles_actress/8_allison_mack.html)

I thought you would like The name. I guess I was right.

Here's

Ask Men's ED (http://www.askmen.com/women/actress_300/321_erica_durance.html)

[kryptonite-proof]

Even though the episode tried to make it seem as though Lois was part of the progression of fate, I don't think she really was. Notice that both Lana and Jonathan left the party in both timelines regardless what condition Lois was in at the time. Her fall did not effect either Lana's accident or Janathan's encounter with Lionel.

Lana's accident prevented Jonathan from talking to Lionel and thereby also preventing his heart attack. There was a direct relationship. This was not the case with Lois' accident.

I don't know if that means that Lois has a greater destiny, but it does indicate that her life force wasn't in play with regard to the balance being reached.

[clois1938]

Lana's accident prevented Jonathan from talking to Lionel and thereby also preventing his heart attack. There was a direct relationship. This was not the case with Lois' accident.
It could also be as someone said earlier that Lana and Jonathon were meant to die in whichever timeline they were in. Lana seems to have been meant to die in many timelines.

Also you could take Jonathon arriving at the accident site later in the second time versus the first time due to the commotion over Lois' almost electrocution at the party. Concerned, he probably checked on her before leaving, thus delaying his arrival time. Either that or Lois' absence delayed the photo shoot which delayed Jonathon's arrival time.

[No-El]

Originally posted by PETER WEST
I thought you would like The name. I guess I was right.

Here's

Ask Men's ED (http://www.askmen.com/women/actress_300/321_erica_durance.html)


:lol:

GOT IT/HER!!:p

[jmf1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
[B]Yeah it would be a terrible way to go :eek: I'm so klutzy I could see myself doing the same :eek:

I was just thinking that the writers had a funny sense of humor to put that in there. I mean Lois getting electricuted because she's a junk food addict, has to put the ding dongs out of reach because she'd eat them all up. Be honest, how many women out there have done that? And, yes, I will raise my hand. These are the reasons why you have to love Lois. She brings humor to the show.

[Happy Random]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Yeah it would be a terrible way to go :eek: I'm so klutzy I could see myself doing the same :eek:


Sadly, so could I. And it would be for Ding-Dongs or some other chocolate thing too! :D

[ImaVirus]

Originally posted by MBCorp
That's some good analysis there. And awww for the universe not wanting to kill off Clark's greatest love, Lois. Funny though how the universe keeps wanting to kill off Lana. :lol:

Yeah, bad Universe. You should be ashamed of yourself.

That was a great description ScoobyCookies. Even though I knew the timeline of events. It really nails it home to see it written so well. kudos. I was glad to have read that.

Lois is becoming a lot more adult and not such a ding dong lately. I still love her in the show.

[No-El]

Originally posted by ImaVirus
Yeah, bad Universe. You should be ashamed of yourself.

That was a great description ScoobyCookies. Even though I knew the timeline of events. It really nails it home to see it written so well. kudos. I was glad to have read that.

Lois is becoming a lot more adult and not such a ding dong lately. I still love her in the show.


Glad I did name this thread correctly!!:lol: :p


****************Lois' DING DONGS! ********************* :p :p :p :p

[ImaVirus]

Originally posted by kryptonite-proof
Even though the episode tried to make it seem as though Lois was part of the progression of fate, I don't think she really was. Notice that both Lana and Jonathan left the party in both timelines regardless what condition Lois was in at the time. Her fall did not effect either Lana's accident or Janathan's encounter with Lionel.

Lana's accident prevented Jonathan from talking to Lionel and thereby also preventing his heart attack. There was a direct relationship. This was not the case with Lois' accident.

I don't know if that means that Lois has a greater destiny, but it does indicate that her life force wasn't in play with regard to the balance being reached.

I think someone early on, ScoobyCookies I believe had said that. Lois's destiny, being saved in both timelines means that she is meant to be alive and we all know why. To eat Ding Dong's and marry our favorite superhero.

Lana and Jonathan could very well both have been meant to die, hence the 2 deaths everyone seems to be talking about. I don't think the sheriff dying counts as someone close to Clark. But Clark in fact choose to save Lana and then discovering his dad dying afterwards.

If he would have waited, maybe he could have made a deal for them both. It would have happened on the same nights anyway. If he wouldn't have chosen then, he would have had the option to go back later. He just couldn't wait like Jor-El tried to get him to do.

Who's to say the accident wouldn't cause a problem for Jonathan. :) Im kidding about that. I really like the idea of the universe keping a balance. How do we know it doesn't really happen like that. Creepy. I miss JK.

No-El? I brought up ding dongs in both my responses. IS that not good enough? Do you mean she is an idiot type of ding dong, or the fact that she eats ding dong's?

Cause I like Ding Dong's. :)

[zanos]

Originally posted by No-El
If anyone did not notice at the beginning of the episode, Lois was in the Talon stock room, on her cell phone!

She stepped up onto a small footstool to reach for something, the camera was quick but kept the package name in view of what she finally grabbed for!

Hostess DING DONGS

Now, we know Lana arrived to catch Lois in time before she fell backward.

That same incident was played out again, in Jor-El's Time-Line Reversal as we see Clark at the Talon Rally discovering "something is not right" and finding an unconscious Lois on the floor just in time to keep her from being electrocuted!

So, this is one of those "BALANCE of NATURE" scenarios that Jor-El spoke of to Clark!

If Lana was saved, then it would have been Lois to BITE IT, but Clark saved Lois only to now realize that Jonathan was the "Ultimate Rectification" sought to compensate for the BALANCE lost in the Universe!

Do you think it should have been Lois and not Jonathan?

You may vote or discuss!

Probably since she doesn't serve any purpose on the show. It makes more sense to kill her.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

She serves more of a purpose than Lana does. That's why Lana should have died. Heck Chloe should have died so Lana can take her rightful place as the Lana Lang from the comics(which is Chloe's place on the show)

[zanos]

Without Lana there would be no show.

[Slytherin Princess]

Originally posted by zanos
Without Lana there would be no show.

:rotfl: that was the funniest thing i have ever read. thanks for the good laugh. i needed it.

[No-El]

Originally posted by ImaVirus
Who's to say the accident wouldn't cause a problem for Jonathan. :) Im kidding about that. I really like the idea of the universe keping a balance. How do we know it doesn't really happen like that. Creepy. I miss JK.

No-El? I brought up ding dongs in both my responses. IS that not good enough? Do you mean she is an idiot type of ding dong, or the fact that she eats ding dong's?

Cause I like Ding Dong's. :)



Cue Creepy Universe "Outer Limits" music!!!

Lois DING DONGS was supposed to be a double or multiple meaning:

1. Ditzy Ding Dong!

2. Huge KNOCKERS!!

3. Her choice snack!

Take your pick, I love ED's Lois to a certain point, but I love her younger cousin more AM's Chloe.

Well, I do know one thing.....the actual sale of Hostess DING DONGS will either hit record highs or lows among those who read this thread and did catch the "Product Placement" in Reckoning!!:lol: :lol:


****************THE END ****************

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by zanos
Without Lana there would be no show.

my clark, have you sunk that low????:lol:

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by jmf1
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
[B]Yeah it would be a terrible way to go :eek: I'm so klutzy I could see myself doing the same :eek:

Be honest, how many women out there have done that? And, yes, I will raise my hand. These are the reasons why you have to love Lois. She brings humor to the show.

Me too!! *raises hand high above her head*

I love Lois :D

[BoSoxJim]

Originally posted by No-El
Glad I did name this thread correctly!!:lol: :p


****************Lois' DING DONGS! ********************* :p :p :p :p

separately, they are two things the world cannot exist without.

together, they are perfection. mmmmmmmmm...........huh? what? oops, there i go again!

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by zanos
Without Lana there would be no show.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You do know the show is about CLARK KENT not Lana Lang :rolleyes:

[sstray72]

No-El, you have a talent at naming threads about Lois... :lol: Nothing will ever top "Lois' Muffins??" though... :rotfl:

I wish that we could've seen Lois make that fateful plunge... It would've been hilarious, I would've heard a *bonk* sound effect in my head.

They will probably say that Lois' head trauma changed her personality so that she will all of a sudden be a driven, goal-oriented, reporter type...

[flcn6]

Does this mean that Lois uprgraded from "muffin"? :D

[No-El]

Originally posted by BoSoxJim
separately, they are two things the world cannot exist without.

together, they are perfection. mmmmmmmmm...........huh? what? oops, there i go again!


Funny:lol:


Originally posted by sstray72
No-El, you have a talent at naming threads about Lois... :lol: Nothing will ever top "Lois' Muffins??" though... :rotfl:

I wish that we could've seen Lois make that fateful plunge... It would've been hilarious, I would've heard a *bonk* sound effect in my head.

They will probably say that Lois' head trauma changed her personality so that she will all of a sudden be a driven, goal-oriented, reporter type...


Yes some of Allison's Chloe "better wit" has rubbed off on me!:p

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
Does this mean that Lois uprgraded from "muffin"? :D


Yes!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You people are too much!!! And I'm a Chlarker, for cryin out loud!

Perhaps Lois is now upgraded from Muffin to DING DONG!

But, by and large you have to admit, (pun....ignore the "large" term) Lois' Muffins are better, especially with "Cream Filling"!!!! :p

[flcn6]

Originally posted by No-El

But, by and large you have to admit, (pun....ignore the "large" term) Lois' Muffins are better, especially with "Cream Filling"!!!! :p

:rotfl:

mmmmmmm, cream filling. *drools* er..um...*stops daydreaming*

[photogirl]

As much as I am totally for Chlark, I know it's not going to happen, and since Jonathan had to go eventually, then it was inevitable (sort of) that he went now.....

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by No-El
But, by and large you have to admit, (pun....ignore the "large" term) Lois' Muffins are better, especially with "Cream Filling"!!!! :p

OMG I about spit my drink out when I read this :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[LuckyKrypto]

You guys are horrible!!! :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:

[No-El]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
You guys are horrible!!! :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:


:p

You can't beat DING DONG Lois' Muffins , they are the BEST, and Superman is gona em one day!:p :\

[flcn6]

isnt he the lucky one ;)

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
isnt he the lucky one ;)


As the Pussy Cat Dolls sing:

Don't Cha wish... :p

[flcn6]

ooooh, i want THAT pic :D :cool:

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
ooooh, i want THAT pic :D :cool:


You mean, you want her!

:p

[flcn6]

Hell yes! Who wouldn't? ;) :D :cool:

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
Hell yes! Who wouldn't? ;) :D :cool:


:lol:

Wondering how people would respond if it was who actually Lois died instead of JK?

That would have sent this board into a "Major Tail-spin"!!:eek:

[flcn6]

If Lois had died, that would have killed the show. Fanboys complain already that JK shouldnt have died, imagine what they would have said if LOIS would have died. I mean, c'mon, there goes the whole destiny thing lol

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
If Lois had died, that would have killed the show. Fanboys complain already that JK shouldnt have died, imagine what they would have said if LOIS would have died. I mean, c'mon, there goes the whole destiny thing lol


True.

Also a FACT you and I are aware = A majority people have complained that the Lois should NOT have been put in Smallville in this version of Superman Story.

Some have indeed expressed Al Gough's wisdom, AT THE TIME Lois character was introduced to the show. And now just like Chloe her cousin, SOME have developed a liking and growing "Smallville Fan Base" of ED's Lois, affectionately called NOIS the DING DONG, Muffin Peddling high school/college drop-out!

The LOVE for Lois is Great to some, some others....well I prefer Chloe hands down myself, but what can you yourself say to the future Mrs. Superman?

Wonder Lois! :p

[flcn6]

Originally posted by No-El
True.

Also a FACT you and I are aware = A majority people have complained that the Lois should NOT have been put in Smallville in this version of Superman Story.

Some have indeed expressed Al Gough's wisdom, AT THE TIME Lois character was introduced to the show. And now just like Chloe her cousin, SOME have developed a liking and growing "Smallville Fan Base" of ED's Lois, affectionately called NOIS the DING DONG, Muffin Peddling high school/college drop-out!

The LOVE for Lois is Great to some, some others....well I prefer Chloe hands down myself, but what can you yourself say to the future Mrs. Superman?

Wonder Lois! :p


True, True. I am aware of that fact. Also, like you, I am a Chlarker fan. But i do not hate ED's Lois. She just isnt Chloe :p

As to what i would say to her? If i could stop stammering long enough, i dont know. But i sure know what would go through my head ;) :cool:


And still i must say...nice pic. :rotfl:

[Conner]

Hey guys, if there's one thing I've learned it's expect the unexpected. For all we really know in this incarnation of Superman Chloe could be his future wife. Every interpretation of the hero is different and I respect them all, minus a comic run here and there. MOS, ugh!

[No-El]

Originally posted by Conner
Hey guys, if there's one thing I've learned it's expect the unexpected. For all we really know in this incarnation of Superman Chloe could be his future wife. Every interpretation of the hero is different and I respect them all, minus a comic run here and there. MOS, ugh!


Yes, I'd pay $1,000,000.00 CASH to have Chloe marry Clark/Superman:

*Her first KISS in 8th Grade!

*His Sidekick and Confidant in their College years, sharing the Danger!

YES by all means necessary Chloe and Clark should be together in Superman's Future in this VERSION of SMALLVILLE!!

But, DC Execs are controlling The Gough, Inc., and they would have a fit if Lois does not show "google eyes" toward Clark!

That is a fact, which explains why Gough was careful not to step on toes causing "Smallville/Superman Returns 2006" conflicts in production and Story plotslines.

I hate that the EXECS, control what fans would see, just to line their pockets for $$$$$$!!!

%&*$^#$&*#%##@@&&$&$%!^&(%&:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[flcn6]

Originally posted by No-El
Yes, I'd pay $1,000,000.00 CASH to have Chloe marry Clark/Superman:

*Her first KISS in 8th Grade!

*His Sidekick and Confidant in their College years, sharing the Danger!

YES by all means necessary Chloe and Clark should be together in Superman's Future in this VERSION of SMALLVILLE!!

But, DC Execs are controlling The Gough, Inc., and they would have a fit if Lois does not show "google eyes" toward Clark!

That is a fact, which explains why Gough was careful not to step on toes causing "Smallville/Superman Returns 2006" conflicts in production and Story plotslines.

I hate that the EXECS, control what fans would see, just to line their pockets for $$$$$$!!!

%&*$^#$&*#%##@@&&$&$%!^&(%&:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Yes, that is very true. Chlark would be great. But noooooo, cant do that. Cant destroy the "legacy". I mean, why couldnt he marry Chloe? Chloe is everything Lois is SUPPOSED to be. Why wait for Lois to change when he can get it now? :D

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
Yes, that is very true. Chlark would be great. But noooooo, cant do that. Cant destroy the "legacy". I mean, why couldnt he marry Chloe? Chloe is everything Lois is SUPPOSED to be. Why wait for Lois to change when he can get it now? :D


True!

Your last comment was humorous as well!!

Why wait for Lois to change when he can get it now?

(pardon the pictorial meaning of Chloevege....uh....well, you get the "double entandre")
True and having Chloe in Lois' role almost sounds almost like:

"Why buy the COW, when you could get the MILK for FREE??" :p:p :p

[flcn6]

Im glad i wasnt the only one who understood my last sentence ;)


And I lied earlier. I want THAT pic!:rotfl:

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
Im glad i wasnt the only one who understood my last sentence ;)


:lol:

And I lied earlier. I want THAT pic!:rotfl:

You mean, you REALLY WANT HER!:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p


:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

:lol:

And to all a Goodnight!

[Slytherin Princess]

sorry you guys. i know how much you want chloe to end up with clark, but it's not gonna happen. he's going to end up with lois.

[Jellie]

Somebody is going a bit overboard with the smileys


Originally posted by Slytherin Princess
sorry you guys. i know how much you want chloe to nend up with clark, but it's not gonna happen. he's going to end up with lois.

People can dream though. Im not one of the dreamers cus Im not a chlaker

[Slytherin Princess]

Originally posted by Jellie
People can dream though. Im not one of the dreamers cus Im not a chlaker

of course they could dream. omg... what am i doing? i'm totally squashing your dreams here. guys don't listen to me... if you want to keep the Chlark thing alive, then go right ahead. i won't say another word.

[flcn6]

Originally posted by No-El
You mean, you REALLY WANT HER!

Didnt we already have this discussion with that pic about Lois? What do you think my answer is going to be?

Duh! :p



And, yes, do not stomp on our dreams! For dreams are dreams, and may never come true, that is why they are dreams :p (I wanted to see how many times i could say dreams in a sent.)

Post what you like, thats what the forums are here for.

Long Live Chlark!

P.S.-I need that pic :rotfl:

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
Didnt we already have this discussion with that pic about Lois? What do you think my answer is going to be?

Duh! :p



And, yes, do not stomp on our dreams! For dreams are dreams, and may never come true, that is why they are dreams :p (I wanted to see how many times i could say dreams in a sent.)

Post what you like, thats what the forums are here for.

Long Live Chlark!

P.S.-I need that pic :rotfl:

Go to AMO (allisonmackonline.com) and register for free. Once you do go to the left of the page Menu and see GALLERY, for Season Screen caps and Season 3 TRUTH Episode, that pic should be at almost at the end of the series of screen caps which are "Javascript" opening in separate windows!

You'll get!! The AMO link----
Allison Mack Online! (http://www.allisonmackonline.com/modules/news/)

[flcn6]

No-el, your my newest bestest friend. Thanks for the site.


You have to love the "girls"...er. girl...

[No-El]

Originally posted by flcn6
No-el, your my newest bestest friend. Thanks for the site.


You have to love the "girls"...er. girl...


:lol:

No problem!

[bry_g_m]

well, in the second timeline, i think clark could have also told lana about him, then lana, could have save lois, and all clark needed to worry about was the bus hitting lana's car, or more better was keeping lana busy the whole night so that she won't go to lex's place. finally, they would never kill lois.. except if the producers plan to really make a big bend over the whole superman story....

[1.21 gigawatts]

HOSTESS DING DONGS!

[LusciousLois]

No, Lana should've died. Wait, she did die. Clark should've left her dead!

[Shadowlord367]

Originally posted by scoobycookies
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

Wow after reading that post, I had known all along that happened, but the destiny thing made me realize how complex this epp was and how symbolic. I think Johnathon would definately have chosen timeline 2. it worked out

[tomfarr]

LOIS SHOULDVE DIED! no one knows the superman stories a.lol
think lonel should think they messt his character up a little

[lanalang1234]

yea no matter how hottt erica is she shouldve died

[emsfan]

I hope so she would die but it won't happen!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[jay dante]

C. Lana dies.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Well, if Johnathan was alive:

Lois or Lana would be dead, and never get to live their lives.
Martha wouldn't senator.
Clark wouldn't have to take responsibility for his family.
Lionel wouldn't be hitting on Martha, but continue to blackmail Mr. Kent.

Clark shouldn't have gone back in time- no offense Lana fans- because it could have gotten someone else to kill, and it's really unfair of him to choose who gets to live.

[softballqueen]

the right thing was jonathen dieing. I think Jonathen had enough anyways because of all his heart problems.

[KryptonX81]

I think it was completly selfish and stupid of clark to sacrifice his dad just so a girl that he wont give 2 s&*ts about 10 years from now can live.

It is pretty much the general consensus that killing of Johnathan was a bad idea.

[SheaMan]

One thing that jumps out to me is that the Lexmas episode gave the implication that Chloe, Ma, Pa, Lana, Lex, even Lionel... are all alive. Of our list of potential deaths - Lois is the only one missing.. and!

With the electrical short deal as a red hearing threat to Lois the implication could have been that IF Lex had chosen the side of light in Lexmas, and IF Clark had let Lois stay dead instead of petulantly demanding Jor-El change the past, and IF you believe that Lexmas was real prophecy and not Lex's own hopes and dreams narrating a story to Lex - then maybe it would have been Lois. Thats how the Chlois could have become!

But it wasn't - it didn't - and if anyone bet on Lois being the sacrifice....
I got this bridge for sale....

[clana hater]

If you ask me, the writers just tried to confuse us to think, even for a moment, that Lois is the one to go

[kryptongirl2008]

Jonathan had to Die if they really wanted to base it on Superman's life. Otherwise LANA would have died. Even though I would have loved to see that, everything would have gone crazy

[happyending21]

as much as i love clois i have to say clark doesn't love her (yet) and jor el said someone you love so ummm thats one reason i disagree

also lois is apart of the myth the hystory ..she can't die ..not perminatly anyway ...also she gr8 ...


lana should have gone if you ask me ...not jk ..but hay ho thats the way the cookie crumbles

[jazel]

No, Lana should've died. Wait, she did die. Clark should've left her dead!
:lol: I agree........
she was on her way, to dying twice.....Lana should be RIP right now...I know that Clana bite the dust for me, in that epi. NO matter how long they've dragged it out.

[marcella]

Lois is his soulmate,so she wasn't/isn't supposed to die

[Clark/Lois-fan]

Do you even know who Lois is, and who she'll become ?????

[RaniaLovesClois]

Are you kidding me?? Actually, Lana had to die... but whatever... I prefer Jonathan dead than Lois...


Do you even know who Lois is, and who she'll become ?????

:D

[ginnyfan]

Both Lois and Jonathan should have lived.

The grim reaper tried to get Lois but Lana and Clark saved her.

[pizzahead2490]

Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

OMG!!! I never even thought about that. It make so much sense. Lois is Clark soulmate Killing her off would be a huge no no. I never even realize her falling for the ding dongs was symbolic. wow.

[Wicked Lois]

Lois is his soulmate,so she wasn't/isn't supposed to die

But Ma, how can Lois be his soulmate if he is from Krypton and she is human? I mean? Soulmates arent supposed to be at least of the same race? Does it mean that our man could be in any part of this universe???????????????

:confused::(

I am just kidding... I am not a big fan of fate right now. Lets just say that Lois is Clark's choice for the woman she got herself to be.


And for the theory. WOW. Kay has been trying to explain it to me for like one hour and only NOW I am getting it. So Lois was the one meant to die... so why the heck Lana saved her?

----- Added 15 Minutes later -----

I GOT IT!! I GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT IT!!!!

Lois was number one in the list!!!

[Wicked Lois]

Guys, I have to say... I just watched this episode again and it makes so much more sense! WOW... I am really amazed!!

[ginnyfan]

^I thought it was really cool too and it made me feel so much better about Lois not being in "Lexmas."

[Wicked Lois]

Why was she not in Lexmas?

[BabyFratelli]

Why was she not in Lexmas?

Because Jonathan and Lana were both there and some people think that it means Lois died to balance out nature or whatever since she was first on Jor-El's hit list.

I always liked that she was first in both time lines to have a near death experience (and so very happy she didn't die:)) because it was foreshadowing of how much she will mean to Clark.

[A_Chloe.S._Fan]

No, Jonathan died for a purpose. If Loid died at that time, it wouldn't have had as great of an effect on Clark because they weren't as close then.

[Wicked Lois]

Because Jonathan and Lana were both there and some people think that it means Lois died to balance out nature or whatever since she was first on Jor-El's hit list.

I always liked that she was first in both time lines to have a near death experience (and so very happy she didn't die:)) because it was foreshadowing of how much she will mean to Clark.

:D

I think I took that season for granted.

[herolee10]

Why was she not in Lexmas?

most likely because they couldn't have any type of situation, like a future sequence showing or even hinting that Clark and her were a romantic couple due to the restrictions from the film department, and since we all know that they're romantic partners in the future and that they were doing a future sequence here, along with ED only having a limited amount of episodes, well i guess they better thought that it'd be best to save her for another episode I suppose.

[Wicked Lois]

Oh, Tommy!!! You are ruining the fun. =p Lets just think the writers KNEW what they were doing! =pp

[Supsfan]

Slightly off topic here but did anybody else find it ridiculous that in the second timeline nobody noticed Lois was knocked out unconscious? or the fact it looks like she fell way earlier in the day she would still be unconscious like 8-12 hours later? Who exactly put up all the decorations that Lois and Lana put up in timeline 1 as well.

[Tinyeppy]

Originally Posted by scoobycookies
Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that


This is a good post & I couldn't agree more with you b/c I saw it that also.

I was very aware of the meaning of Lois when she was the 1st in line to possibly die for Clark in both timelines. This foreshadows in both timelines just how important Lois is to Clark in just S5 when CK had just been intimate with Lana & wanted a life with her & his friendship with Lois was growing.

At this point in time CK believed his true love was Lana but subconsciously was already developing his soulmate bond with Lois making her the 1st in line to die for his life. Lois is the greatest gift/largest sacrifice that CK has in his life in which we all know he will never give up in whatever timeline he’s living. He’ll sacrifice Lana 1st as he’s done in the pass. He doesn’t need her to survive his destiny.

Jorel was very clear to Clark Kent in S5 Hidden “A Lifeforce will be taken from someone you love”.

Lois Lane is ALWAYS 1st in line to die for CK’s life.

The sequence will alway be Lois, Lana, Jonathon => Lois is his Soulmate.

He almost lost his soulmate 2 times this day. This isn’t cool & I believe CK one day will reminisce on how many times Lois has almost died for his life & Lois will continue to do this sacrifice for CK b/c of “True Love”. I could never say that about Lana Lang.

It would have really pissed me off if Lois was to die over Lana especially after the horrors of Clana.

[Nimkong]

Lois should have lived because if she dident people wouldent watch smallville

[The Beyonder]

Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

Just watched this episode again tonight some five years later! as my ten season SV marathon continues and what you have written here is bang on the money. It's interesting the moment they share as she is being taken to hospital as well, the big grin on his face as sarcastic Lois returns, he almost missed the 11:02 deadline again! Great foreshadowing.

[liana]

Wrong. The sequence was not Lana, Lois, Jonathon. Lois was first in BOTH timelines. And it was fate that ultimately saved her both times not Clark.

Think about the purpose of Lois falling, it wasn't a random scene the writers threw in. Prior to reaching for the cookies in timeline 1, Lois had turned on the water in the sink. Lois was already falling, when Lana stepped in to catch her and push her back up on the stool. If the fall in timeline 1 had completed, Lois would have died by electrocution in timeline 1 as suggested in timeline 2, just as car accident and heartattack remain the causes of potential death for lana and jonathon in both timelines.

In the first timeline, Lana saves Lois from electrocution by catching her fall. In the second timeline, Clark saves her from electrocution by lifting her off the water. Both events happen before the Lana car accident.

The purpose of showing Lois as the first target in BOTH timelines is to show that the universe very much knows that Lois is Clark's greatest love. The purpose of showing that Lois is saved no matter which timeline their in, is to show that Lois and Clark are destined to be together in EVERY TIMELINE. It shows that Fate will NOT allow Lois to die before the LoisClarkSuperman destiny is reached.

Since the sequence was Lois then Lana then Jonathon, it is still the Lana save that did Jonathon in.

ITA.

This is an extremly old thread, but I still can't vote it, because I felt neither should have died. It makes you wonder why there is no 'neither' in the poll. :confused:

I have always noticed, even before reading that post, that Lois was the first victim in both timelines, and I also believe that she did die in Lexmas. Her death, as a consequence of Lex becoming good, was the reason why Clark stated that he would ever be alone. And I am not saying that because I believe he was destroyed by this loss as he would be later in Pandora. I am saying because, regardless of him being in love with Lois or not, she was always supposed to be "the one" for him, pretty much as his relationship with Lana was never suppposed to last. So, because he lost "the one" in Lexmas timeline, he would never find anyone else.

[Superboogie]

If anyone did not notice at the beginning of the episode, Lois was in the Talon stock room, on her cell phone!

She stepped up onto a small footstool to reach for something, the camera was quick but kept the package name in view of what she finally grabbed for!

Hostess DING DONGS

Now, we know Lana arrived to catch Lois in time before she fell backward.

That same incident was played out again, in Jor-El's Time-Line Reversal as we see Clark at the Talon Rally discovering "something is not right" and finding an unconscious Lois on the floor just in time to keep her from being electrocuted!

So, this is one of those "BALANCE of NATURE" scenarios that Jor-El spoke of to Clark!

If Lana was saved, then it would have been Lois to BITE IT, but Clark saved Lois only to now realize that Jonathan was the "Ultimate Rectification" sought to compensate for the BALANCE lost in the Universe!

Do you think it should have been Lois and not Jonathan?

You may vote or discuss!
No. Lois was not destined to die in either case and she didn't have anything to do with Jor-el's balance thing.

Lana was destined to die in both cases but by saving her the second time Clark altered that and caused Jonathan to die instead of Lana (Jonathan didn't stop by Lana&Lex the second time).

So the real question should be: Should Lana have died instead of Jonathan?



I have always noticed, even before reading that post, that Lois was the first victim in both timelines, and I also believe that she did die in Lexmas. Her death, as a consequence of Lex becoming good, was the reason why Clark stated that he would ever be alone.
But "Lexmas" is only Lex's dream and I don't think it has any connection or meaning to real SV world other than that Lex has feelings for Lana and dreams about being her husband.

[Raistlin]

It would have been mighty interesting if they had killed off Lois. Talk about messing over the revered mythology. That's the one I voted for, just because. :lol:

[wellinglover66]

Nah, it should've been Lana.;)

[Raistlin]

Nah, it should've been Lana.;)

No disrespect intended, but here's why I think you're wrong. Lois is Clark's "forever love" so her death would have been so shocking, so unexpected that it would have set Superman mythos on its ear. If you're going to go big go all the way.

[borednow]

No, Clark should have, that's going all the way.