Finally! We are getting to the REAL Lois Lane! [Archive]

liana

01-20-2006, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
I usually hate Lois with a firey vengence, but it looks like TPTB are finally getting Lois right! She was driven, confident, supportive, good at her job and still didn't have any patience for the bumbeling Clark Kent. As long as Lois is actually doing something worthwhile, her snark comments don't bother me so much!

Did anybody else notice this change? Or was I just too drunk off of the Lexana lovin'? ;)

No you were not drunk. They have been showing Lois progress slowly this season. First, in Arrival, she cares about people being in danger. She is the one that is calling the police and trying to convince them about the aliens killing people and it is not because of her and she is the one who saves the Kents. In Acqua, she was impressed by A.C. having a purpose in life, in opposite to her. Then, in Exposed, they showed her shocked when the sheriff says there is nothing they could do against the Mr. Lyon. In Solitude, she is shaken when Lex points out she is a "muffin peddler college drop out" and when she had that interesting talk with Chloe about journalism. Episode by episode, they are hinting at Lois growing up and stoping to think about her life. I don't really see this as a one episode deal. But, then again, I can be wrong. I remember Clark used to progress as a character too, and look where he is right now. :\ It's like he is worst than he was at the begining of the show. :rolleyes:

margroks

01-20-2006, 06:56 AM

She's still the lazy muffin peddler, just lightswitched into being suddenly competant. It's still crap and in no way an organic growth for her character. To be organic, it should have started from the beginning. In fact, she should have been halfway to being a great reporter, as Chloe is, if she were to be believable. This is just lightswitching because the writers and producers couldn't make it believable.

PETER WEST

01-20-2006, 08:06 AM

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 08:09 AM

margroks

01-20-2006, 08:13 AM

No, she's not. SHe's older than everyone else by far and she's screwed up her chances on many occasions. She's a loser who can only become the iconic Lois by lightswitching. The time for organic growth is long past.

PETER WEST

01-20-2006, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

I'd say Lois is a heck of alot closer to what she should be than Clark is. This Clark will NEVER be Superman.

I agree, I see a Bright Future for Lois.

As long as Clark is with Lana, I see NO FUTURE for Clark. Their's no way this moopy sap is EVER going to become SUPERMAN. Unless [The 100th Episode] is the starting point to becoming SUPERMAN .

Originally posted by margroks
No, she's not. SHe's older than everyone else by far and she's screwed up her chances on many occasions. She's a loser who can only become the iconic Lois by lightswitching. The time for organic growth is long past.

BULLS!TH, Lois is not a loser, She got a future. This Clark Kent got NO FUTURE.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by margroks
No, she's not. SHe's older than everyone else by far and she's screwed up her chances on many occasions. She's a loser who can only become the iconic Lois by lightswitching. The time for organic growth is long past.

So people screw up that makes them HUMAN. So everyone who screws up are losers, I'll be sure to remember that the next time I screw up :rolleyes:

She's already the iconic Lois Lane, she doesn't HAVE TO BECOME HER. She's already that person.

SteveS

01-20-2006, 09:00 AM

Actually, I thought that Lois was half-way decent last week but to think that the person expelled from college in her first semester could competently run an election campaign is laughable but I guess suitable if one likes fantasy only. Or thinks on the level of a muffin peddling college drop-out.

Thus far, Lois has been a non-stop loser going nowhere. It looks like she is dependent upon the Kent's to give her direction in life and Superman to save her life repeatedly for the remainder of her earthly years.

And she still managed an unnecessarily snide remark at Clark.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 09:03 AM

Why is it laughable? It's been said repeatedly it's not hard to run a campaign like that. YOU could even do it. I've seen kids in high school run campaigns like that.

Snide remarks are fun, that's what makes her Lois, it's a trait every Lois Lane possess, ever seen Lois on Superman: The Animated Series? SV Lois has the same personality as that Lois :D

Timester

01-20-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by SteveS
Actually, I thought that Lois was half-way decent last week but to think that the person expelled from college in her first semester could competently run an election campaign is laughable but I guess suitable if one likes fantasy only. Or thinks on the level of a muffin peddling college drop-out.

Let me see, my brother never went to college and now he is running a very sucessful company started from his own work. That makes him imcompete? College is just a plus, it doesn't make people smarter or having a higher IQ.

sexaytom

01-20-2006, 09:29 AM

I like Lois in this Episode too. She seemed to be more of an adult

k18

01-20-2006, 09:29 AM

I like this Lois Lane and I think she is just getting better. Plus, she didn't get expelled from college for being an idiot; she just made some poor decisions. I'm sure many people have made bad decisions and regret ever making them. She's still smart and brassy and THAT is the iconic Lois Lane that we all love.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Timester
Let me see, my brother never went to college and now he is running a very sucessful company started from his own work. That makes him imcompete? College is just a plus, it doesn't make people smarter or having a higher IQ.

Well said :D

I remember one version of Lois in the comics didnt go to college, she took night classes while working at the DP. You don't have to go to college to be successful most of the time.

SteveS

01-20-2006, 09:33 AM

"Let me see, my brother never went to college and now he is running a very sucessful company started from his own work. That makes him imcompete? "

Lois failed one way or another at graduating from high school and successfully completeing one semester at college. She is now 19 or 20 years old and fresh from filling coffee mugs and selling muffins, yet she is the fully competent campaign manager with all the accrued acumen to handle a senatorial campaign? Again, that could only be the case in fantasy land. She would be incompetent for this job but competent to work at the Talon. Whatever her intrinsic IQ might be, she hasn't developed either it or have the knowledge for this job. It is the 'stuff' of kiddie-thinking.

loistickyfingerz

01-20-2006, 10:02 AM

I agree that Lois' character is really moving forward. They are helping to bring out those natural traits her character has always had.

The young Lois Lane may be messy and disorganized and untrained, but if she knows what she wants and she's passionate about it, nothing can stop her until she gets it.

She's driven, and that is what will make her a great journalist in the future, and I'm happy to see them bringing out those characteristics in her with this campaign.

Timester

01-20-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by SteveS
Lois failed one way or another at graduating from high school and successfully completeing one semester at college.

Did she failed for lack of knowledge or lack of good grades? We saw otherwise. Is that a proof of imcompentence? We never had nothing to proof it is. So, everything else is just assumption.

liana

01-20-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Well said :D

I remember one version of Lois in the comics didnt go to college, she took night classes while working at the DP. You don't have to go to college to be successful most of the time.

Steve Jobs from Apple is a college drop out. His family worked hard for him to go to College, and he left it before finishing his first year. That didn't stop him from being one of the greats minds of our time. If I'm not mistaken, Bill Gates didn't finish College either, but I'm not completely sure about him. Steve Jobs I know, because he said so last year, on a College graduation speech. He spoke about the irony of doing this speech, when he never finished College himself.

Originally posted by Timester
Did she failed for lack of knowledge or lack of good grades? We saw otherwise. Is that a proof of imcompentence? We never had nothing to proof it is. So, everything else is just assumption.

As far as I know, in Facade she said she failed because she missed a few classes, so, it wasn't because of grades. She was admitted in Met-U (that in this universe is a fine school), so she had to have good grades and a good SAT score, or she wouldn't have been admitted in the first place.

Timester

01-20-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by liana
Steve Jobs from Apple is a college drop out. His family worked hard for him to go to College, and he left it before completing his first year. That didn't stop him from being one of the greats minds of our time. If I'm not mistaken, Bill Gates didn't finish College either, but I'm not complete sure about him. Steve Jobs I know, because he said so last year, on a College graduation speech. He spoke about the irony of doing this speech, when he never finished College himself.

There are thousands of examples like him. In my country, we have hundred of businessmen that didn't even finished the 4th grade (yes, that's right) and they are very sucessful.

pixiedust

01-20-2006, 11:28 AM

Lois failed one way or another at graduating from high school and successfully completeing one semester at college. She is now 19 or 20 years old and fresh from filling coffee mugs and selling muffins, yet she is the fully competent campaign manager with all the accrued acumen to handle a senatorial campaign? Again, that could only be the case in fantasy land. She would be incompetent for this job but competent to work at the Talon. Whatever her intrinsic IQ might be, she hasn't developed either it or have the knowledge for this job. It is the 'stuff' of kiddie-thinking.

How is this any more unrealistic than Chloe being able to hack into any computer anywhere since she was 14/15 and get any piece of information that is needed to advance the plot? Or Lana starting and successfully running a coffee house at 15? Neither of those things are plausible or realistic but it helped develop Chloe and Lana into the characters that we know today. Just as being campaign manager is shaping Lois into her iconic character.

In Fanatic and Lockdown, we see Lois displaying characteristics of the iconic Lois Lane. She shows drive, passion, determination, committment and loyalty to the Kents and the cause of Jonathan's campaign.

I think she has always shown that she is the "real" Lois Lane, but I think this season especially, she is shaping up into the Lois Lane that people identify as the future love of Clark Kent's life.

liana

01-20-2006, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Timester
There are thousands of examples like him. In my country, we have hundred of businessmen that didn't even finished the 4th grade (yes, that's right) and they are very sucessful.

I agree. I especifically talked about him, because not only he is a good businessman, but because he is a pioneer in the computer industry. He was the responsible for the first Apple and the Mac-OS and the list goes on. If you ask anyone in the computer business about Steve Jobs, you will see that he is a genius and a brilliant mind. If we are today, able to use a mouse and have this whole graphic technology used in Windows and Mac-Os, it's because of him and others, just like him. To say that someone who dropped College is a failure per se, goes against what we have seen more than once in real life. History more than once proved that great minds are not necessarily forged in Universities. They can be, they most probably will be, but then again, they may be not.

Coyote

01-20-2006, 11:33 AM

It doesn't take a college degree or a lot of specialized training to run a state senate campaign, or to be a reporter for that matter. Lois could do either job if she had any motivation. Anyway, Lois is hot.

F-Stop Blues

01-20-2006, 11:44 AM

I've been liking Lois alot this season. They have been giving her storylines that dont involve Chloe or Clark which is something new for her character. She's really evolving as a person imo.

SteveS

01-20-2006, 12:26 PM

Did she failed for lack of knowledge or lack of good grades? We saw otherwise. Is that a proof of imcompentence? We never had nothing to proof it is. So, everything else is just assumption."

Anyone, and most especially a 19 or 20 year college expel-ee, one who has spent her time playing video games or selling muffins, without substantial experience in politics far beyond student council elections, would be ignorant of campaign laws for a senatorial election,nor would she have political connections or savvy developed or years to handle people,money, and planning. Lois has shown several indications of poor planning and organization, from her failure to graduate from high school, from her professed focus partying (was it bar guides?) to her self-professed messiness. She would be incompetent to handle a serious campaign, other than in a comic book.

liana, Lois was admitted to Metropolis U. through Lex's ingress (try bribery/influence) not through her SAT scores or abilities. Her expulsion she earned herself.

Lana made a business plan and presented it to Lex for backing. Unrealistic though it was, there was a modicrum of explanation for the creating of the Talon, plus Lana was an honor student who attended class and successfully graduated on time. Independence due to her being an orphan?

Chloe has been on a computer in dozens of Smallville episodes with very little shown of her outside life. She too is an honor student. Hmmm, sounds plausible to me that she can be a computer expert.

Success has come to many non-college gradutes, but you will be hard pressed to find any realistic examples of ne'er do wells taking over as a campaign manager at 19 or 20 and leading a successful senatorial campaign...all without any experience or previously indicated expertise in that area.

Really, it is silly stuff like this that makes Smallville seem stupid, not a smart program.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by pixiedust
How is this any more unrealistic than Chloe being able to hack into any computer anywhere since she was 14/15 and get any piece of information that is needed to advance the plot? Or Lana starting and successfully running a coffee house at 15? Neither of those things are plausible or realistic but it helped develop Chloe and Lana into the characters that we know today. Just as being campaign manager is shaping Lois into her iconic character.

In Fanatic and Lockdown, we see Lois displaying characteristics of the iconic Lois Lane. She shows drive, passion, determination, committment and loyalty to the Kents and the cause of Jonathan's campaign.

I think she has always shown that she is the "real" Lois Lane, but I think this season especially, she is shaping up into the Lois Lane that people identify as the future love of Clark Kent's life.

Well said :D

I'm gonna post what zoomway said in one of her essays:

At this point, in my opinion, there has been no logical motive for Lois to gravitate towards journalism. She worked at the Torch because of Chloe and presumably to get extra credits. Lois currently works at the Talon out of gratitude to Martha and to have money to live on, but she doesn't view either job as a possible career.

In one of my favorite X-Files episodes, Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, the title character wondered why people make the choices they make. "Why does anyone do anything in their life? Why did this lady collect dolls? Did she just wake up one morning and say, 'I know. Dolls!'?"

In the same vein, I don't think Lois Lane just woke up one morning and said, "I know. Journalism!" Perhaps, as was hinted at in Solitude, Lois will want to take down Lex Luthor and journalism might be the most expedient means to that end, but if people are out there looking for an absolute canon motive for Lois becoming a journalist, they'll be very disappointed. There isn't one.

son2380

01-20-2006, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by margroks
She's still the lazy muffin peddler, just lightswitched into being suddenly competant. It's still crap and in no way an organic growth for her character. To be organic, it should have started from the beginning. In fact, she should have been halfway to being a great reporter, as Chloe is, if she were to be believable. This is just lightswitching because the writers and producers couldn't make it believable.

I agree with margrok :ois is to old to out of no where get inspired and become the worlds greatest reporter over night. She's not really an over achiever and she's not really showing any journalistic tendencies.
Plus why do they still have LCark looking like a bumbleing idiot. If he is gonna be one of the worlds greatest reporters, Why can't he use the Internet? Why is Chloe still doing web seaches for this guy? why can't he investigate things on his own? It takes to much time to run all the way up to Metropolis so that Chloe can do w web search when he could just find a computer of his own and do it himself.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by son2380
I agree with margrok :ois is to old to out of no where get inspired and become the worlds greatest reporter over night. She's not really an over achiever and she's not really showing any journalistic tendencies.
Plus why do they still have LCark looking like a bumbleing idiot. If he is gonna be one of the worlds greatest reporters, Why can't he use the Internet? Why is Chloe still doing web seaches for this guy? why can't he investigate things on his own? It takes to much time to run all the way up to Metropolis so that Chloe can do w web search when he could just find a computer of his own and do it himself.

Read my above post ;) For her to want to be into journalism is lightswitching. They're getting her into it slowly, but yet it's still lightswitching. :confused:

son2380

01-20-2006, 12:53 PM

How slow are they gonna go? she not getting any younger. She needs to be where Chloe is right now. If Lois is 20 it will probably take her 4 or 6 years to get a degree in Jounalism. Not to mention how long it would take for her to move up in the ranks at the Daily planet or any news paper buisness. Lets say it takes her 4 year to become the top reporter at DP. She would be like 30 years old when she becomes the #1 reporter. Superman would have shown up and saved the world 1000 time by the time lois becomes the number 1 reporter.

to me its not about if she can just switch in on at the last minute its about the time line and how much she has left. Im pretty sure a big buisness like the DP would not just hire someone off the street to be a reporter without some college credential or any kind of experience. Example Chloe had to prover herself before she became and intern.

Not to mention the time line for Clark he has to stop being a country bumkin. learn how to investigate on his own graduate at the top of his class in investigative reporting. Get a job and a news paper in Smalleville, build a bigger rep for himself in smalleville as a great reporter then move to metropolis with enough credentials to impress Pery white to give him a job beside Lois Lane the number 1 reporter.

With the time line they have now i don't see all of this happening right now.

pixiedust

01-20-2006, 12:55 PM

Lana made a business plan and presented it to Lex for backing. Unrealistic though it was, there was a modicrum of explanation for the creating of the Talon, plus Lana was an honor student who attended class and successfully graduated on time. Independence due to her being an orphan?

Chloe has been on a computer in dozens of Smallville episodes with very little shown of her outside life. She too is an honor student. Hmmm, sounds plausible to me that she can be a computer expert.

They may have given Lana a motivation for it, but it still doesn't make it plausible for a 15 yr old girl to even begin to know how to make up that kind of business presentation to convince Lex Luthor (unless he loved her even then).

As for Chloe, we are not talking about her being a "computer expert" as in knowing how to google a search and find information. Sure, most teenagers can do that with one hand behind their back.

Most of the information that she obtains with her trusty computer cannot be found through a search engine. It has to be obtained by hacking into a protected website or data base (which happens to be illegal by the way in case you didn't know). That isn't something a normal teenager would know how to do and realistically with as many sites as Chloe had hacked into, she would have been hauled off to jail a long time before now if we were dealing with what was realistic.

But yet, Chloe's "skills" on the computer are one of the things that make her such a great, intelligent character to most of her supporters and in actuality, it is a skill that is illegal to possess.

liana

01-20-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by SteveS
liana, Lois was admitted to Metropolis U. through Lex's ingress (try bribery/influence) not through her SAT scores or abilities. Her expulsion she earned herself.

This is the exact dialogue from Facade:

Lois: [Not pleased to see him.] Daddy. Don't you have three thousand guys to babysit? Do you really need to keep checking up on me?

Sam: It would appear that way.

Lois: I know that I'm late. But I can still make it to campus for orientation.

Sam: Save yourself a trip. Met U just yanked your acceptance.

Lois: What? They can't do that.

Sam: They can if you don't have enough credits to finish high school.

Lois: Look, I know I missed a few classes, but...

Sam: Lo, you failed the last semester.

So, you see, she was admitted to Met-U, but they yanked her admission later, because she didn't have enought credits to finish high school due to her missing classes. Later on, on Devoted, Clark convinces Lex to use his influence so she would be admitted in spite of her not having enough credits to finish highschool. So, if she was admitted in the first place, without anyone else influence, it was because she had good SAT scores and good grades. Isn't the person admitted in the University before she actually graduates? That's probably what happened here.

SteveS

01-20-2006, 05:43 PM

Well, let's see...from using your dialogue, Lois appears to have had a provisional admission to Met U., provisional in the sense that the university did not have her complete high school transcript, obviously once they received it, she did not meet their minimum standards.
Now I don't know if Met U. has rigorous standards for admission or is one of those institutions that allows admission to most everyone that graduates. We could only speculate on that. Either way, she needed Lex to scam her admission anyway.
Now if one wants to find out why she didn't have enough high school credits and has access or interest in the shows script ( I have neither), then we might verify what was the problem. Excessive absences? If so, one normally flunks a course. Doesn't take enough hours? A different kind of problem. Either really does not make much difference to me. It is the result that is worthy of note.

Ooops, saw the last line...Lois failed the last semester of high school. Not good.

And was expelled from her first semester of college. What did she tell Clark she studied? Bar guides?

Christine C

01-20-2006, 09:33 PM

Someone on another thread said that people just don't like Lois and thats why all the negative comments. Well I have n't seen anyone post anything negative about the character that has n't been backed up with good reason. Its the writers fault this character has not been accepted the way she should have. Now their trying to change her and make her more like who she should of been at a rapid pace. I also don't buy her putting on a suit and suddenly knowing how to run a political campaign. One moment she's a college drop out, the next she's the head of JK's furture run for senator. The actress does look older than any of the other younger actors. The immature act did not suit her. Especially when all the others are acting more mature than her, especially Chloe. I admit Clark should be turned onto journalism pretty soon, but as far as being like Superman, he's been saving people for years.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 09:39 PM

She is NOT a dropout. Dropping out and being kicked out are two totally different things.

Who's acting more mature than her? Chloe? Lana? Clark? Chloe yes this season she is, Clark heck no, Lana no, heck even Lex isn't acting all that mature at times.

You're joking right? Clark is nothing like Superman. Saving people does not make him Superman. There are plenty of people in this world who do things like that on a daily basis-saving people(fire fighters). Clark has NONE of the characteristics of Superman.

ferd

01-20-2006, 11:30 PM

Amen!!! Clark has a long way to go before he's someone that could be defined as a true Super-man. He, at the moment is being portrayed as a weak, needy, whiny teenager who needs to take his blinders off and face his reality. I'm saddened that a show about the evolution of Clark Kent becoming Superman has turned into 'As the Daily Planet twirls' with this freaking love triangle Dawson's creek nonsense. I mean, if we're all going to raise our voices and yell, I think Lois is one of the last things wrong with the show anymore. TPTB need to go back and watch season 1, 2, and 3. They need to ask themselves why the show took off in the first place. It was after September 11th when we all needed to believe in Heroes. Sadly I think we've forgotten that feeling, that need to feel protected. I for one am *so* ready for this Clana rollercoaster to come to an end, and get to the real point of the show--Clark embracing his destiny.

Lois is part of that destiny, and IMHO ED has portrayed LL perfectly considering the weird line she has to walk between Chloe and Lana. She's a breath of fresh air, and a dose of reality that the show has been lacking. I can only hope pretty soon she'll knock some sense into Clarkie.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-20-2006, 11:45 PM

Well said Ferd :D

That's one thing that bugs me alot is the double standard when it comes to Lois. Lois gets bashed up one side and down another because she's not her future self, but most of the same people who bash Lois for this reason let Clark slide. I don't get it. Yes Clark and Lois are both iconic characters, but Clark/Superman is more of an icon, I don't get why he doesn't have to live up to the same thing. Is it because he's the hero?

Watching Smallville

01-21-2006, 12:14 AM

Lately I'm asking myself the same thing....

I like the way SV is handling Lois's character. They've given her good points and flaws, kept her likable (to me, at least), consistent, and gradually given her more substance as the episodes progress. And I really like ED's portrayal. No bashing on Lois from me. Right now she's one of the main reasons I'm watching the show.

LolaDane

01-21-2006, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Well said Ferd :D

That's one thing that bugs me alot is the double standard when it comes to Lois. Lois gets bashed up one side and down another because she's not her future self, but most of the same people who bash Lois for this reason let Clark slide. I don't get it. Yes Clark and Lois are both iconic characters, but Clark/Superman is more of an icon, I don't get why he doesn't have to live up to the same thing. Is it because he's the hero?

Good question. I just think it boils down to fan bias. My theory for the double standards is that Clark is half of Chlark so he gets a free pass, or maybe it's because there aren't any fans claiming that Clark is the real Lois Lane. ;)

Netmaster

01-21-2006, 04:06 AM

Well this show is based on a comic book for crying out loud.
It's fiction. Where a girl can manage and run an entire coffee shop business with only a little help from a few local teens as the employees, and where she can somehow afford to own and drive a Jeep Cherokee or similar SUV all around Smallville. It's were a young blond teen can somehow hack into any top secret file or secure building with very little trouble. It's also the same world where a young guy (who just happens to be an alien from another planet, with amazing powers) seems to be able to almost single handedly run an huge farm without a single extra farm hand around and wihout anyone ever seeing him use his powers (except that one tabloid reporter in Tempest) and where his family can afford to buy a brand new truck at least two or three times a year due to the fact the old ones get totaled all the time.

So Lois isn't yet the Lois we all know. She is getting there. It's just taking a while. That's all.
Somehow, given the fact that this is Smallville, I think Lois will have no problem getting to the Daily Planet.
I laugh so hard when someone brings up Chloe and how she's already at the Planet.

Yeah, what a career move. Doesn't she just work in the basement where they do the personals? She doesn't even get to write on a regular basis, she just answers the phones on the evening shift and runs errands for the real reporters earlier in the day (according to previous episodes). She's only been able to actually write one story for the Planet as far as we know.

Chloe's no Woodward or Bernstein yet (to use a line she used in an earlier episode).

She is not in Lois and Clarks future, that's for sure. Before the show is over she will be gone. I can just feel it.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-21-2006, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Netmaster
Well this show is based on a comic book for crying out loud.
It's fiction. Where a girl can manage and run an entire coffee shop business with only a little help from a few local teens as the employees, and where she can somehow afford to own and drive a Jeep Cherokee or similar SUV all around Smallville. It's were a young blond teen can somehow hack into any top secret file or secure building with very little trouble. It's also the same world where a young guy (who just happens to be an alien from another planet, with amazing powers) seems to be able to almost single handedly run an huge farm without a single extra farm hand around and wihout anyone ever seeing him use his powers (except that one tabloid reporter in Tempest) and where his family can afford to buy a brand new truck at least two or three times a year due to the fact the old ones get totaled all the time.

So Lois isn't yet the Lois we all know. She is getting there. It's just taking a while. That's all.
Somehow, given the fact that this is Smallville, I think Lois will have no problem getting to the Daily Planet.
I laugh so hard when someone brings up Chloe and how she's already at the Planet.

Yeah, what a career move. Doesn't she just work in the basement where they do the personals? She doesn't even get to write on a regular basis, she just answers the phones on the evening shift and runs errands for the real reporters earlier in the day (according to previous episodes). She's only been able to actually write one story for the Planet as far as we know.

Chloe's no Woodward or Bernstein yet (to use a line she used in an earlier episode).

She is not in Lois and Clarks future, that's for sure. Before the show is over she will be gone. I can just feel it.

Well said :D

Yep she's getting there, but yet people still complain that she's being lightswitched :rolleyes:

Originally posted by LolaDane
Good question. I just think it boils down to fan bias. My theory for the double standards is that Clark is half of Chlark so he gets a free pass, or maybe it's because there aren't any fans claiming that Clark is the real Lois Lane. ;)

I hate double standards, IMO what's good for one character should be good for ALL characters.

:lol: That's because Clark's really a bad version of Peter Parker ;)

BlueNRed2

01-21-2006, 11:30 AM

Welp, i would definately chalk one up for the EDLois fans in this episode. This has been one of her better performances. I actually didnt wince when she started delivering her lines for a change. Still, for me she is the weakest link as far as acting talent....

Lara Lane

01-25-2006, 03:34 PM

Interesting thread, all of you have very good and valid points.

IMHO, the fact that we get to see the actual development of the character enriches the show and makes it more interesting to see.

Imagine we were introduced to a Mature Lois who already knows what she wants and has a plan in her life. Where's the point in that? What kind of interest could that bring? Isn't SV supposed to be about growing? If Clark, Chloe and Lana had that chance, then why to take that away from Lois?

In the other hand, watching her discover her path little by little and grow up as a person gives the character realism.

And well, this is a bit more personal but I have learned way more from my mistakes than from my asserts. Lois has made mistakes, no doubt, but that will only make her stronger.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

01-25-2006, 03:37 PM

People seem to think that Lois just wakes up one day and says "I want to go into journalism" she doesnt. Not in the comics and not on Lois and Clark, heck Lois on Lois and Clark Lois only went into journalism to prove her father wrong.

Lois in the comics has said she got into journalism to bring down the scumbags of this world and whatnot. So I see SV Lois heading that direction already.

PETER WEST

01-25-2006, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

Lois in the comics has said she got into journalism to bring down the scumbags of this world and whatnot. So I see SV Lois heading that direction already.

That was the same reason in STAS (they explain this in The comic book Superman Adventures (it was conneted with STAS.)

Lois got her job as a reporter for The Daily Planet after getting Huge Dirt on Lex Luthor (who she dated only to learn his secrets.)

brownsugar84

01-25-2006, 04:17 PM

Wow great post everyone! I agree Clark and Lois are not their future selfs because this is Smallville.lol Therefore, it is about the past and about growing up-getting Lois and Clark to become their iconic selves.

And with Lois she failed highschool not because of her grades but for missing classes. I have known many, back when I was in highschool not too long ago, who were smart but missed or cut classes for whatever reason and could not go on to the next grade. Some could'nt even graduate. That is why Lois failed highschool. Or else why did Met U even took their time to look at her transcript? They must have been amazd at her grads but at last moment saw that she did not have the requirements to be a Met U student.

Now Clark, as many of you guys have said, is no where close to being superman. He has more flaws than Lois. Just look at Fanatic even Lockdown. His behavior towards his powers and his relationship with Lana.

And I also agree with the fact that if Chloe could hack into computers to get highly classified (confidential by the way) information, and Lana could carry a talon at 15, than yea Lois could handle being a campaign manager. Like Netmaster said, this show is fiction. So take it as it is.

Now since I forgot who said Lois cannot be the iconic Lois because she has not continued her progressing from the first few episodes of season 4, well all I got to say is look at Clark. During the earlier seasons Clark was more heading towards becoming the superman we know and love until late season 4 and on. Should people say he is or will not become Superman just becuase of lack of progression and development? Ofcourse not. Although, in my opinion he has a very very lon way to go.lol Lois is a lot closer to her destiny even if the writer push her progression back a step. But I have seen it and so has my brother who is not familiar with forums and what is going on, has seen it. That Lois is THE Lois Lane.