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kryptohag
01-19-2006, 09:22 PM
Rolls eyes...:o
If I have to hear Clark ***** and moan about the "one" and "true love" again I think I'm going to shoot myself. Why oh Why, do the writers of the show continue to place these blatant foreshadowings in almost every other episode? Blah blah "I never find love," "Maybe she's not the one," "There's someone out there for you..." (somewhere in those lines) and ta-da LOIS shows up. Grrr... I really do not enjoy seeing nor hearing these lines and scenes anymore. When will the writers stop? I think I get it already.
Another thing... I really don't like how this episode made it seem that the only reason why clark is FINALLY going to tell Lana his secret is because he doesn't want to lose her to Lex. WTF, really? Couldn't it be a better reason?? Like, I don't know, mabye because you finally trust her with your secret and want to let her in. It also seemed that the reason why he asks LANA to marry him is because he's just marking his territory and letting Lex know that he can never have her, etc. I know this seems awful of me to think, but come one. Why, Clark, are you acting like a jealous maniac!!?? I really hope I'm wrong and it's for a better reason than this.
What do you guys think??
Clark Kent 86
01-19-2006, 09:35 PM
I still think that the forshadowing of the Lois and Clark relationship is still kind of cool. But I do see where you are coming from, it is in almost every episode and it is starting to get old. BUt still kind of cool.
Maybe that is part of the reason why he is finally telling Lana, once he gets her to the fortress I'm sure his decision to tell her is because he loves and trusts her.
loisnlana
01-19-2006, 09:35 PM
Clark's loved Lana for 5 years. Maybe some things pushed him into it, the marriage proposal isn't so far fetched.
LexLuthorMetropolis
01-19-2006, 09:53 PM
Love isn't the word I would for use Clark's level of compassion for her. More like obessessed stalker who forced a relationship.
If he truly loved her, he would have told her ages ago but he dragged it out until the circumstances got worse and worse.
mandylilc14
01-19-2006, 10:17 PM
i personally like the reference to clark and lois being together in the future.. im a big clois fan.. and as far as the proposal.. clark is definately marking his territory.. especially after lana defends lex and then clark sees them huggin in the hospital... his telling her is to keep her away from lex
sstray72
01-19-2006, 10:31 PM
Clark and his statements of "love" seem like a derranged stalker more than someone in love. Plus it was so utterly predictable that Lois JUST HAPPENED to show up after Clark said that he couldn't imagine loving anyone else ( :rolleyes: ) So... Clark can't imagine loving anyone else even though he "loved" Alecia... Wait, she never existed... nevermind.
MBCorp
01-19-2006, 10:40 PM
I've never heard any other guy Clark's age whine and moan about their relationship problems as much as he does. You would think he was a 14 year old girl, the way he goes on and on about his relationship turmoil and angst. God, he must bore Chloe to tears angsting to her about Lana constantly.
Another thing... I really don't like how this episode made it seem that the only reason why clark is FINALLY going to tell Lana his secret is because he doesn't want to lose her to Lex. WTF, really? Couldn't it be a better reason?? Like, I don't know, mabye because you finally trust her with your secret and want to let her in. It also seemed that the reason why he asks LANA to marry him is because he's just marking his territory and letting Lex know that he can never have her, etc. I know this seems awful of me to think, but come one. Why, Clark, are you acting like a jealous maniac!!??
I also get the impression that Clark is only going to tell her because he's jealous of Lex, and not because he really respects her enough to be honest with her without any sort of an incentive.
F-Stop Blues
01-19-2006, 11:49 PM
I just think its funny that he's with Lana but he's still miserable. And he's miserable because he has these gifts that can help mankind but he doesnt really care. There still a burden to him and they are in the way of him being with Lana. He still doesnt get it imo.
LexLuthorMetropolis
01-19-2006, 11:50 PM
Which is so very Peter Parker, not Clark Kent.
F-Stop Blues
01-20-2006, 12:05 AM
exactly.
I_am_LEX
01-20-2006, 12:08 AM
You know, the whole 'the one' and 'love' thing doesnt really bother me that much. I sorta see where he's coming from. I mean, he's still an alien, he still doesnt know that much about himself & this makes him uncomfortable. He's loved Lana for a billion years, lol, but he's still just afraid because he doesnt know what to do. He doesnt even know who he is, how is she supposed to? I think thats sorta the way he thinks & sure its immature i suppose, but love can make you lose all logic. its hard to think straight when ur in love & then there's the whole 'im an alien' & im sure that doesnt help him any.
MBCorp
01-20-2006, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Which is so very Peter Parker, not Clark Kent.
That's what I was thinking, they've really marvelized this version of Superman.
Small2
01-20-2006, 12:43 AM
In watching this EP, I was struck by how all the women in this show, including Lana, have matured and are getting on with their lives. Clark Kent, still has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. What a whining, moma's boy. It does make the marriage proposal sad. There is no real love on Chlark's part. He's simply afraid he is going to lose his obsession. He doesn't see it as equal partners wanting to help and add to each other, but simply he can't see any future other than with his obsession. I'll throw in "selfish" as a descriptive adjective for Chlark also.
Other than his super strength (which he was born with) there is not much Super about him. What the h*** does Chloe see in this guy?
Poor Lana is stuck as it's a primary reason for her character, but really, who would want to be with someone of his limited maturity and intelligence?
If this show is to go much longer, the writers need to turn their attentions to improving the character. I don't see how this character is ever going to get to be Superman.
MBCorp
01-20-2006, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Small2
In watching this EP, I was struck by how all the women in this show, including Lana, have matured and are getting on with their lives. Clark Kent, still has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. What a whining, moma's boy. It does make the marriage proposal sad. There is no real love on Chlark's part. He's simply afraid he is going to lose his obsession. He doesn't see it as equal partners wanting to help and add to each other, but simply he can't see any future other than with his obsession. I'll throw in "selfish" as a descriptive adjective for Chlark also.
Other than his super strength (which he was born with) there is not much Super about him. What the h*** does Chloe see in this guy?
Poor Lana is stuck as it's a primary reason for her character, but really, who would want to be with someone of his limited maturity and intelligence?
If this show is to go much longer, the writers need to turn their attentions to improving the character. I don't see how this character is ever going to get to be Superman.
Truer words were never spoken, I agree 100% with this. I have a really hard time myself ever seeing Clark as the future Superman. And yes, Clark definitely has not matured emotionally on this show, in fact, I'd say that he's regressed since S1. :\
Ummiknow
01-20-2006, 12:57 AM
Maybe the DEATH of someone he loves will mature him :)
LexLuthorMetropolis
01-20-2006, 01:00 AM
The death is convient plot device. If a death was going to truly change him, they should have allowed that to happen back when Alicia was murdered but nope didn't happen.
MBCorp
01-20-2006, 01:07 AM
Another thing that annoyed me about Clark in this episode was when he got upset with Lana for trying to help save Lex. He was like, "Oh my god, I can't believe you risked your life for Lex! You should have just let him die!" and then Lana was like, "he saved my life" and then Clark was all, "Oh my god! I can't believe he saved your life! The nerve of him!" *fumes with jealousy* He just really irritated me in that scene.
Nospam
01-20-2006, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by MBCorp
Truer words were never spoken, I agree 100% with this. I have a really hard time myself ever seeing Clark as the future Superman. And yes, Clark definitely has not matured emotionally on this show, in fact, I'd say that he's regressed since S1. :\
Compare the season one episode Leech to the season five episode Mortal. In Leech Clark seemingly learns that there are responsibilities to having powers, namely using them for the good of others. Fast forward to Mortal and Clark is elated to have lost his powers without any sense of loss as to the good he accomplished with them, the responsibility of powers and the consequences of losing them. His character regressed and forgot lessons supposedly learned four years ago. This guy is supposed to become Superman? I don't see it.
It's hard to see Superman in a Clark that whines when asked to help underprivileged children, forgets the lessons of the past, is willing to abandon his unique indentity to be with a girl and is a complete cad regarding his best friends feelings. These are things even the most jaded teenager would give at least some pause for reflection.
Old Juan
01-20-2006, 04:06 AM
Yep Clark is acting like a grade A prick. Frankly I think the definition BDA should be changed from Big Dumb Alien to Big Dumb A--hole.
Lifebound
01-20-2006, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Small2
In watching this EP, I was struck by how all the women in this show, including Lana, have matured and are getting on with their lives. Clark Kent, still has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. What a whining, moma's boy. It does make the marriage proposal sad. There is no real love on Chlark's part. He's simply afraid he is going to lose his obsession. He doesn't see it as equal partners wanting to help and add to each other, but simply he can't see any future other than with his obsession. I'll throw in "selfish" as a descriptive adjective for Chlark also.
Other than his super strength (which he was born with) there is not much Super about him. What the h*** does Chloe see in this guy?
Poor Lana is stuck as it's a primary reason for her character, but really, who would want to be with someone of his limited maturity and intelligence?
If this show is to go much longer, the writers need to turn their attentions to improving the character. I don't see how this character is ever going to get to be Superman.
Originally posted by Nospam
Compare the season one episode Leech to the season five episode Mortal. In Leech Clark seemingly learns that there are responsibilities to having powers, namely using them for the good of others. Fast forward to Mortal and Clark is elated to have lost his powers without any sense of loss as to the good he accomplished with them, the responsibility of powers and the consequences of losing them. His character regressed and forgot lessons supposedly learned four years ago. This guy is supposed to become Superman? I don't see it.
It's hard to see Superman in a Clark that whines when asked to help underprivileged children, forgets the lessons of the past, is willing to abandon his unique indentity to be with a girl and is a complete cad regarding his best friends feelings. These are things even the most jaded teenager would give at least some pause for reflection.
You both are rock on solid. Clark has been depicted in such a horrible way. Like Old Juan said, "Grade A Prick"
I honestly can't picture Clark as loving Lana. I mean look at the way he acts and everything. He is like a criminal psycho, overpossessive, distrustful, jealous, etc. In one of the past seasons where he said to Lex that the 'if you love them set them free' thing failed, I realize now it was more of a 'i let her go because I was too selfish to tell someone I love my secret' (it is another matter that he feared lana would accept as he had good reason to).
I see no good qualities in the Clark we saw yesterday. How can he complain about not getting gratitude for saving Lana's life. Gratittude was something Clark NEVER wanted, he never wanted to be in the spotlight. All he wanted was to be normal. The only way I could fathom Clark's Lanalusting was if it was because he saw her as the perfect image of what normal is. However, Lana is too insecure etc. for that.
Indeed, the marriage proposal sounds like some bad Splinteresque dream or something because it is so absurd. This episode shows Clark and Lana are not meant to be together, even though the majority of the audience will hear, "i lov her soooo much" and "want to spend the rest of our lives together"....
As for what Chloe sees in Clark? It is a good question to be asking now. Every quality Chloe loved about Clark has been thrown out the window in the last two episodes. Thats my opinion.
This show has gotten progressively worse after Lexmas.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-20-2006, 05:31 AM
No... HOW CAN U SAY THAT? CLANA IS FOREVER!!!!!!
Crazy4Smallville
01-20-2006, 05:48 AM
Here is an excerpt from my review. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Everyone should know by now how much I've hated how this show has exalted Lana's status to be equal that of Lex and Clark. The story of Superman has always been about Lex and Clark. Lana was never a large part of that story, and she played no significant part in the future of Superman. However, in Smallville she's become the pinnacle of mythos. She has been exalted to a point where she's not merely the highschool sweetheart, but much more. She's now been linked to the history of Clark, by having her ancient ancestors part of Clark's history with the whole Isabelle story. Then they have her great Aunt having had an intimate relationship with Clark's father, Jor-El (making her out to be the love of Jor-El's life, which decreases the role of Lara, Clark's mother), now they've made Lana an essential part of Clark's life by portraying her as the love of his life (therfore making Lois Lane the consellation prize) and also the love of Lex's life. I have a feeling that they will soon make her the catalyst that will be the ultimate rift between Clark and Lex. The story will no longer be good verses evil, right verses wrong, compassion over power, but a power struggle of pride over a woman, and that changes who Superman truly was. While Clark fights for truth, justice and the American way - his battle against Lex won't be for those reasons. It will over Lana. So, in essence they've changed the very essence of who and what Superman is - and have lowered him to the status of an average man with a few super gifts. There would be many men who could fill his shoes had they the same gifts. I've yet to see what makes him Kryptonian. They've done a good job trying to make him Super-human.
That's truly been my ought against Lana. No other reason really. I don't hate the character, I just hate how her role in this version of the tale changes the hero I've loved my whole life. Superman's not so super to me anymore. Don't get me wrong, Clark is still applaudable by his self-sacrificing duty to try and save everybody. Yet, how self-sacrificing is he really? What has he truly given up? A chance to cheat a football, a chance to fornicate and be rebellious and irresponsible as other teens. I don't see where he's really sacrificed anything. He's still rebellious, he got to play football and he's even fornicated. Seems like your typical teen life to me. His secret doesn't stop him from having a life - just like other gifted teens whose gifts carve a different path than their peers.
I agree Crazy4Smallville. Lana is becoming more of an icon like figure this season - it seems Smallville is more about the woman who dated Clark Kent and Lex Luthor or about their romantic feelings then about big moral conflicts. I also agree with the other posters about the character of Clark this season (and season 4 IMO). Clark has becoming more annoying this season, and less of a likable character than he was in even in season 1. He used to believe in Lex (for example) and he talked about seeing the best in people, and I that was the only thing I liked about his character - he was good natured and hopeful. I know that they are trying to make him less naive as he matures, but making him cynical is not a good thing IMO. I could deal with the moping and the self-pity, after all he is a lonely alien, but now that he is self-righteous and cynical on top of all that, his character is losing it's charm. I call him BAJ this season - Big Alien Jerk. Ugh!
It seems in "Lockdown" that Clark is starting to hate Lex because Lex is a human and so equal to Lana, and he can never be. Oh, and of course, they have to be romantic rivals. Ugh (again)! I thought Lex Luthor was supposed to be full of hate and jealousy for Superman/Clark Kent- why is Smallville making Clark the angry and jealous one?
Timester
01-20-2006, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
No... HOW CAN U SAY THAT? CLANA IS FOREVER!!!!!!
And that ruins the show, the story, the characters...
The first part of this season was good with the Brainiac arc (not because of Clana, since it was Clana-lite), but it's falling again. Why? Because of the godammed Clanex arc that we rightly called "The Triangle of Hell" when we knew about it. Why have AlMiles to focus the show always on its worst part, the ships?...
Originally posted by FotW
I thought Lex Luthor was supposed to be full of hate and jealousy for Superman/Clark Kent- why is Smallville making Clark the angry and jealous one?
Because AlMiles said so...
They said it even before the season started... :\
Indeed. Now if they wanted to focus on one particular ship called "Clex" I wouldn't complain so much. :lol: They did say that? They wanted to ruin Superman? Ugh to the tenth power!
Originally posted by Timester
And that ruins the show, the story, the characters...
The first part of this season was good with the Brainiac arc (not because of Clana, since it was Clana-lite), but it's falling again. Why? Because of the godammed Clanex arc that we rightly called "The Triangle of Hell" when we knew about it. Why have AlMiles to focus the show always on its worst part, the ships?...
Because AlMiles said so...
They said it even before the season started... :\
Timester
01-20-2006, 06:42 AM
The words were "jealousy angry".
Lifebound
01-20-2006, 07:03 AM
If they wanted to make him jealous angry, they should have him run off in to the middle of nowhere and smash a tree down, cuz then I could fathom to a small degree that he is not exactly being himself. Having Clark express his jealous anger to Chloe, however, makes him seem like a jerk, and Clark does the jerk portrayal so well it makes Clark feel like he is by very nature an insecure moody person completely contrary to Superman.
Crazy for Smallville: you are quite right. I mean the fact is that I didn't mind how Lana was portrayed in the beginning of the show, but now she has screwed most every character and their nature up. It is quite a pity.
Metropolis Hero
01-20-2006, 07:11 AM
I'm not sure what has the worst effect on Clark; kryptonite or Lana? One can kill him and the other turns him into a drooling, moping little whiner, sucking all the good character qualities outta him at the same time.
I like Clark, but it's time to end the suffering over Lana and start acting like the hero we all know he will be. Hopefully it won't be long from now....
Lifebound
01-20-2006, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Metropolis Hero
I'm not sure what has the worst effect on Clark; kryptonite or Lana? One can kill him and the other turns him into a drooling, moping little whiner, sucking all the good character qualities outta him at the same time.
I like Clark, but it's time to end the suffering over Lana and start acting like the hero we all know he will be. Hopefully it won't be long from now....
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes, Lanite is Clark's second weakness.
:lol: Lanite must kill brain cells. Clark seemed jealous that he couldn't take a bullet for Lana and Lex could. "Darn! If only I could almost die (again)!"
midnite_spark
01-20-2006, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by kryptohag
Rolls eyes...:o
If I have to hear Clark ***** and moan about the "one" and "true love" again I think I'm going to shoot myself. Why oh Why, do the writers of the show continue to place these blatant foreshadowings in almost every other episode? Blah blah "I never find love," "Maybe she's not the one," "There's someone out there for you..." (somewhere in those lines) and ta-da LOIS shows up. Grrr... I really do not enjoy seeing nor hearing these lines and scenes anymore. When will the writers stop? I think I get it already.
Another thing... I really don't like how this episode made it seem that the only reason why clark is FINALLY going to tell Lana his secret is because he doesn't want to lose her to Lex. WTF, really? Couldn't it be a better reason?? Like, I don't know, mabye because you finally trust her with your secret and want to let her in. It also seemed that the reason why he asks LANA to marry him is because he's just marking his territory and letting Lex know that he can never have her, etc. I know this seems awful of me to think, but come one. Why, Clark, are you acting like a jealous maniac!!?? I really hope I'm wrong and it's for a better reason than this.
What do you guys think??
i am completely behind u on being sick of that STUPID FORESHADOWING!! i'm thinking "stop bring lois into these scenes when she's not even suppose to be in smallville in the first place!!!!" i hated that part when she just rolls up when he goes "i can't imagine loving anyone else" i was bout to throw my shoe at my tv.
and i was a bit annoyed at the reason why clark is finally really really really comtemplating telling lana. seriously....after all this time...the reason why he chooses to tell lana is not becuz he thinks that she can handle his secret, not becuz she's been asking for the truth for 5 years now, not becuz she loves him sooo much, but becuz he's ego and pride is threatened by lex. he's afraid of losing lana to lex. if it were in the animal world, clark would've peed on lana already, basically. obviously clark's skull is made harder than steel cuz its takes constant redundant conversations with him to actually drill a lil pin size hole into his brain that he should tell lana his secret. GAH!
but the whole foreshadowing thing pisses me off the most i think.
The Ship!
01-20-2006, 07:30 AM
In essence all we're being taught about being a SuperHero has little to do with Character-Inner Strenght-Universal Compassion (not just towards humans only)-Integrity-Perseverance against mighty odds.
Rather, it is only the powers you have money(ability to creat fear in good people)-Physical strenght-ect...
Clark isn't a Super "Man", he is not a MAN to start with, He is a Kryptonian, a race far advance to struggle with early humans emotions such as Jealousy-greed-discompassion ect....
In "Aqua" I saw his behaviors towards AC even after Chloe told him how he was freeing the dolphin. Clark showed no compassion, he was jealous of AC/Lois connection. He has since met Alicia, That Native american girl who died in his arm, Flash, Aqua. ANd yet Clark has not learned from these people, he has not even shown respect to what they stood for....something "the future superman would have done".
This is a lame love story.....and not true to the story of Superman. Clark is just as bad as Lex but at least Lex is opened about his intentions....Clark lies about them and grabs on to the worst things about Humans.
Lifebound
01-20-2006, 07:37 AM
I think that as long as Clark had his inner demon of guilt and strife and he bottled up his emotions like in S1-4 I could support his mistakes. I mean, we all make mistakes. But in S5 he is portrayed as some thick-skulled jealous lover with superabilities who expects gratitude. Sorry, it has become lame this season.
PETER WEST
01-20-2006, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Which is so very Peter Parker, not Clark Kent.
Excatly, Sv's version Of Clark is like Moopy Peter Parker before he & MJ became lovers.
Originally posted by kryptohag
Rolls eyes...:o
If I have to hear Clark ***** and moan about the "one" and "true love" again I think I'm going to shoot myself. Why oh Why, do the writers of the show continue to place these blatant foreshadowings in almost every other episode? Blah blah "I never find love," "Maybe she's not the one," "There's someone out there for you..." (somewhere in those lines) and ta-da LOIS shows up. Grrr... I really do not enjoy seeing nor hearing these lines and scenes anymore. When will the writers stop? I think I get it already.
Another thing... I really don't like how this episode made it seem that the only reason why clark is FINALLY going to tell Lana his secret is because he doesn't want to lose her to Lex. WTF, really? Couldn't it be a better reason?? Like, I don't know, mabye because you finally trust her with your secret and want to let her in. It also seemed that the reason why he asks LANA to marry him is because he's just marking his territory and letting Lex know that he can never have her, etc. I know this seems awful of me to think, but come one. Why, Clark, are you acting like a jealous maniac!!?? I really hope I'm wrong and it's for a better reason than this.
What do you guys think??
I prefer The Lois & Clark forshadowing, a hell of alot more, Than all The Clana Bullsh*t [I've had to watch for 5 bloody years.] Their relationship was "DOOMED" from the start (from since the TPTB made the Meteor Shower kill Lana's parents, And Clark feeling gulity about it {one of the reason's he never told lana in the past}.
Good points. But, Smallville has portrayed Jor-El as lacking compassion as well.
Originally posted by The Ship!
In essence all we're being taught about being a SuperHero has little to do with Character-Inner Strenght-Universal Compassion (not just towards humans only)-Integrity-Perseverance against mighty odds.
Rather, it is only the powers you have money(ability to creat fear in good people)-Physical strenght-ect...
Clark isn't a Super "Man", he is not a MAN to start with, He is a Kryptonian, a race far advance to struggle with early humans emotions such as Jealousy-greed-discompassion ect....
In "Aqua" I saw his behaviors towards AC even after Chloe told him how he was freeing the dolphin. Clark showed no compassion, he was jealous of AC/Lois connection. He has since met Alicia, That Native american girl who died in his arm, Flash, Aqua. ANd yet Clark has not learned from these people, he has not even shown respect to what they stood for....something "the future superman would have done".
This is a lame love story.....and not true to the story of Superman. Clark is just as bad as Lex but at least Lex is opened about his intentions....Clark lies about them and grabs on to the worst things about Humans.
Timester
01-20-2006, 07:49 AM
"K-SITE: Why has it taken so long for Clark to just tell Lana his secret?
GOUGH: I think there's always an issue of, you've got a couple super hero dilemmas. One is can the person take it? Will they look at you as a freak, and run the other way? Two is, girlfriend to super hero. Always in a lot of trouble. And that would only get worse, especially if she knew the secret. And thirdly, I think there's always the question of 'is she really the one?' You know, which we from the comics know that ultimately she isn't. You know, there are the mistakes you make in your first relationship that'll have reverberations through the ones you have after that."
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-20-2006, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I just think its funny that he's with Lana but he's still miserable. And he's miserable because he has these gifts that can help mankind but he doesnt really care. There still a burden to him and they are in the way of him being with Lana. He still doesnt get it imo.
I agree. I'm also sick of him calling his powers "abilities" they're not abilites Clark, they're powers, say it with me Clark, "powers" :rolleyes:
I don't mind the foreshadowing :)
Originally posted by Timester
"K-SITE: Why has it taken so long for Clark to just tell Lana his secret?
GOUGH: I think there's always an issue of, you've got a couple super hero dilemmas. One is can the person take it? Will they look at you as a freak, and run the other way? Two is, girlfriend to super hero. Always in a lot of trouble. And that would only get worse, especially if she knew the secret. And thirdly, I think there's always the question of 'is she really the one?' You know, which we from the comics know that ultimately she isn't. You know, there are the mistakes you make in your first relationship that'll have reverberations through the ones you have after that."
You know what made me sick? The other interview that was posted on the news page where Gough said all Clark is interested in is getting laid :rolleyes: I hate what they've done to this iconic character :mad:
Timester
01-20-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
You know what made me sick? The other interview that was posted on the news page where Gough said all Clark is interested in is getting laid :rolleyes: I hate what they've done to this iconic character :mad:
Good old Al Gough. He manages to piss off the fans in every single interview. :rolleyes:
PETER WEST
01-20-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
No... HOW CAN U SAY THAT? CLANA IS FOREVER!!!!!!
Clana is what's killing This show, The faster This "DOOMED" realtionship is finish. The better.
Originally posted by Timester
And that ruins the show, the story, the characters...
Amen.
Originally posted by Timester
The first part of this season was good with the Brainiac arc (not because of Clana, since it was Clana-lite), but it's falling again. Why? Because of the godammed Clanex arc that we rightly called "The Triangle of Hell" when we knew about it. Why have AlMiles to focus the show always on its worst part, the ships?...
I totally agree with you .
;)
photogirl
01-20-2006, 08:14 AM
Clark is only going to tell lana his secret because he feels it is neccassary...not because he trusts her so much and everything...
You can't look at it in the sense that Clark is going to tell Lana simply so that he might lose her to Lex. It's just another addition to the effects of him not telling her.
I don't think of it as simply securing her from Lex.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-21-2006, 11:18 AM
Who cares? Clark has loved Lana for a long time and besides... did you guys all see in the previews for next Thursday that THE RING GETS SLIPPED ONTO LANA'S FINGER?SHE OBVIOUSLY SAYS YES TO CLARK, MEANING THAT SHE IS THE ONE...CLANA HAS ALWAYS BELONGED ON SMALLVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
smoky
01-21-2006, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Timester
"K-SITE: Why has it taken so long for Clark to just tell Lana his secret?
GOUGH: I think there's always an issue of, you've got a couple super hero dilemmas. One is can the person take it? Will they look at you as a freak, and run the other way? Two is, girlfriend to super hero. Always in a lot of trouble. And that would only get worse, especially if she knew the secret. And thirdly, I think there's always the question of 'is she really the one?' You know, which we from the comics know that ultimately she isn't. You know, there are the mistakes you make in your first relationship that'll have reverberations through the ones you have after that." This makes me think they are going to erase Lana's memory after she finds out & then promptly "dies."
Billy Jor-El
01-21-2006, 11:34 AM
The thing that's dying is the faith in Superman. You've all made valid points about how Clark is a BDA exponentially increased to beyond our comprehension. I'm feeling he'll be forced into becoming Superman, not because he wants to, because of true compassion for the odd hairless apes of Earth. The way it's going, even once he dons the cape people will look at him with a measure of disgust ("...gawd, he doesn't even know how to treat his friends right...").
I also agree that I'm increasingly wondering what Chloe sees in him, he needs to change or he'll be the one killed off. Still, the show has been awesome and provoked a lot of insightful responses here....
superman8
01-21-2006, 01:39 PM
CLANA FOREVER
lyric96
01-21-2006, 01:48 PM
Some people need to watch back SMALLVILLE PILOT and see little Lana and little Clark and listen then to "Everything" (Lifehouse) and then you figure out that they are meant to be together....
Even if Clark will get with Lois, someday he'll run back to Lana. CLANA forever!
Lifebound
01-21-2006, 02:57 PM
Honestly, I think that Clana is far different now than it was in Season 1. The characters have evolved and despite Clark and Lana trying hard, they are both clearly not skipping on the same beat (in other words, the dynamics of their relationship aren't working out). The relationship is full of desperation, distrust, and on some levels, spite.
Clana can only work when Clark is human. Since Clark is not, he must run from who he truly is (Superman) if he wants the relationship to work.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-21-2006, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by lyric96
Some people need to watch back SMALLVILLE PILOT and see little Lana and little Clark and listen then to "Everything" (Lifehouse) and then you figure out that they are meant to be together....
Even if Clark will get with Lois, someday he'll run back to Lana. CLANA forever!
:rotfl: OMG that means nothing. He'll someday run back to Lana. You really want that? You want Clark Kent to be that type of person? WOW
lyric96
01-21-2006, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Lifebound
Honestly, I think that Clana is far different now than it was in Season 1. The characters have evolved and despite Clark and Lana trying hard, they are both clearly not skipping on the same beat (in other words, the dynamics of their relationship aren't working out). The relationship is full of desperation, distrust, and on some levels, spite.
Clana can only work when Clark is human. Since Clark is not, he must run from who he truly is (Superman) if he wants the relationship to work.
Yes "but now it's different" Clark will tell Lana his secret. But I know that it's just too good to be true : we know Lana will accept to marry him (engaged) but the writters will turn this to ugly by reversal time or something and then we'll get back to normal : a boring clana thing or Lana won't even remember what happened.
If some people think that CLANA is boring that's because writters/producers gave Kristine Kreuk the worst storylines ever (since season 3) but still Kristin is a good actress.
CK&CK
01-21-2006, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
Compare the season one episode Leech to the season five episode Mortal. In Leech Clark seemingly learns that there are responsibilities to having powers, namely using them for the good of others. Fast forward to Mortal and Clark is elated to have lost his powers without any sense of loss as to the good he accomplished with them, the responsibility of powers and the consequences of losing them. His character regressed and forgot lessons supposedly learned four years ago. This guy is supposed to become Superman? I don't see it.
It's hard to see Superman in a Clark that whines when asked to help underprivileged children, forgets the lessons of the past, is willing to abandon his unique indentity to be with a girl and is a complete cad regarding his best friends feelings. These are things even the most jaded teenager would give at least some pause for reflection.
I agree and have stated as much since "Mortal" aired. But with the existance of the "Leech" episode....can you believe that there are actually some fans that defend his choice in Mortal? Me, personally, I don't care what the reasoning is......because with the existance of the "Leech" episode, this just shows Clark loosing IQ points with each fresh new episode that airs......but wait that's only 99 episodes so far......so he's probably also lossing IQ points every time he goes to the bathroom.......because we all know that's what he has for brains...........Big Dumb A** that he is.
Lifebound
01-21-2006, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by CK&CK
I agree and have stated as much since "Mortal" aired. But with the existance of the "Leech" episode....can you believe that there are actually some fans that defend his choice in Mortal? Me, personally, I don't care what the reasoning is......because with the existance of the "Leech" episode, this just shows Clark loosing IQ points with each fresh new episode that airs......but wait that's only 99 episodes so far......so he's probably also lossing IQ points every time he goes to the bathroom.......because we all know that's what he has for brains...........Big Dumb A** that he is.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
CK&CK
01-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Who cares? Clark has loved Lana for a long time and besides... did you guys all see in the previews for next Thursday that THE RING GETS SLIPPED ONTO LANA'S FINGER?SHE OBVIOUSLY SAYS YES TO CLARK, MEANING THAT SHE IS THE ONE...CLANA HAS ALWAYS BELONGED ON SMALLVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So following this logic.......there should be no such a thing as "divorce" in this world........only "marriage"........righhhhht......because we all know that slipping on a ring makes you automatically "the one".......especially when one of the two individuals involved is obsessed to the point of wanting his best friend to spy on her.
PETER WEST
01-21-2006, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by lyric96
Some people need to watch back SMALLVILLE PILOT and see little Lana and little Clark and listen then to "Everything" (Lifehouse) and then you figure out that they are meant to be together....
Even if Clark will get with Lois, someday he'll run back to Lana. CLANA forever!
Oh Please :rolleyes: I'll admit Lana was is "First love" But NOT HIS TRUE LOVE. Lois Lane is and Always will be "The LOVE Of Clark Kent/SUPERMAN's LIFE" .
thmallville
01-21-2006, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Who cares? Clark has loved Lana for a long time and besides... did you guys all see in the previews for next Thursday that THE RING GETS SLIPPED ONTO LANA'S FINGER?SHE OBVIOUSLY SAYS YES TO CLARK, MEANING THAT SHE IS THE ONE...CLANA HAS ALWAYS BELONGED ON SMALLVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I agree with the 'Clana has always belonged on Smallville" thing, it is possible that Lana gets into a car crash AFTER she gets engaged to Clark. The commercial is a bit choppy, and it's obvious things aren't shown in chronological order. So...it might be Lana. But the other half of me is screaming "Noooooo!! It doesn't make sense to kill Lana! She's one of the 'big three'!"
And if TPTB are basically telling us it will be Lana, then it's not...bear with me on this one...because why would they tell us who it is when we already know it's gonna be a surprise? If they tell us, then it won't be shocking. But then agian, stealing my friend's theory, if they tell us it's Lana, then no one is going to believe it's Lana, so if it really is her, it will still be 'shocking'. And I know that sounds complicated, but it sort of makes sense.
The only people who are 'candidates' (A.K.A. people Clark loves) that I think would be most likely to die are his parents. But they already tried to kill Martha in Solitude, so I don't think it's her. But then they sort of not really tried to kill Pa Kent in Lockdown, but I still think it might be him. So.... my first guess is that it is going to be Jonathan Kent, and if it's not him then I think it's gonna be Lana.
Clana lovers (who are my own kind) will throw things at me now for being a traitor.
LoLoZ
01-21-2006, 05:34 PM
I'm not a big fan of this version's Clark, he doesn't seem like a Clark Kent at all. (not to mention way too much wight of the show goes on "Clana")
He acts a lot like a child, very impolsive, scared of his own shadow, and a creepy stalker.
I'm also not a big fan of Lana, but she is so mature than him, she knows where she's going... pretending that they were in the real world with no Superman myth around, I actually thinks she, and Erica's Lois, deserve better than him.
I hope he'll grow up to be the Clark we know and love, cause right now, Lex seems more like Superman to me than him.
BTW, the whole "I want to spend the rest of my life with her" talks, makes me sick.
LoLo
shy175223
01-21-2006, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Who cares? Clark has loved Lana for a long time and besides... did you guys all see in the previews for next Thursday that THE RING GETS SLIPPED ONTO LANA'S FINGER?SHE OBVIOUSLY SAYS YES TO CLARK, MEANING THAT SHE IS THE ONE...CLANA HAS ALWAYS BELONGED ON SMALLVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just because he has put a ring on her finger does NOT mean that it will last at all. SV or what have you. Better enjoy CLana while it last which WILL last until the season ends. BET on it.
thmallville
01-21-2006, 06:24 PM
Well... believe it or not, I would rather have Clana till the end of the season then Clana engagement. Cuz if they get engaged, that means a nastier inevitable breakup later on. I just want them together and happy w/out Lois.
shy175223
01-21-2006, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by thmallville
Well... believe it or not, I would rather have Clana till the end of the season then Clana engagement. Cuz if they get engaged, that means a nastier inevitable breakup later on. I just want them together and happy w/out Lois.
That's probably what will happen at because the engagement will happen. Maybe.
No-El
01-21-2006, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by kryptohag
Rolls eyes...:o
If I have to hear Clark ***** and moan about the "one" and "true love" again I think I'm going to shoot myself. Why oh Why, do the writers of the show continue to place these blatant foreshadowings in almost every other episode? Blah blah "I never find love," "Maybe she's not the one," "There's someone out there for you..." (somewhere in those lines) and ta-da LOIS shows up. Grrr... I really do not enjoy seeing nor hearing these lines and scenes anymore. When will the writers stop? I think I get it already.
Another thing... I really don't like how this episode made it seem that the only reason why clark is FINALLY going to tell Lana his secret is because he doesn't want to lose her to Lex. WTF, really? Couldn't it be a better reason?? Like, I don't know, mabye because you finally trust her with your secret and want to let her in. It also seemed that the reason why he asks LANA to marry him is because he's just marking his territory and letting Lex know that he can never have her, etc. I know this seems awful of me to think, but come one. Why, Clark, are you acting like a jealous maniac!!?? I really hope I'm wrong and it's for a better reason than this.
What do you guys think??
I agree but they do it as a foreshadowing of things to come for those who are not obsessed as we!
LoLoZ
01-21-2006, 06:31 PM
I'd hate it if Lana dies only because it would make Lois "the next best thing". and by the way the show is going, i wouldn't be surprised if it would happen and Clark will end up saying to Lois on their wedding night how he thought he would spent it with his greatest love of all, Lana... =\
LoLo
SmallvilleMan
01-22-2006, 12:08 AM
I agree and have stated as much since "Mortal" aired. But with the existance of the "Leech" episode....can you believe that there are actually some fans that defend his choice in Mortal? Me, personally, I don't care what the reasoning is......because with the existance of the "Leech" episode, this just shows Clark loosing IQ points with each fresh new episode that airs......but wait that's only 99 episodes so far......so he's probably also lossing IQ points every time he goes to the bathroom.......because we all know that's what he has for brains...........Big Dumb A** that he is.
No, i can't believe some fans defend his choice. I mean, seriously, why would anyone want their perfect life?:rolleyes:
CK&CK
01-22-2006, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, i can't believe some fans defend his choice. I mean, seriously, why would anyone want their perfect life?:rolleyes:
Oh here we go again.....Clarkie wants his perfect life......let's give him his cake so he can eat it to.
SmallvilleMan
01-22-2006, 12:59 AM
Oh here we go again.....Clarkie wants his perfect life......let's give him his cake so he can eat it to.
Hey, if you put on the fuel, don't get upset when the fire starts. Yes, Clark like every person on the face of the planets, wanted his perfect life and he took the chance to have it.
CK&CK
01-22-2006, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Hey, if you put on the fuel, don't get upset when the fire starts. Yes, Clark like every person on the face of the planets, wanted his perfect life and he took the chance to have it.
It ain't a fire......it's just the six candles (Clark's maturity level in chronological earth years) on Clarkie's cake.....Clark....repeat after me....."you can't have your cake and eat it to"......upset......no....it was more like "oh brother, here we go again".
MissLane
01-22-2006, 04:03 AM
I am not agree with you kryptohag.. because theres no Lana in Clark's life!... there will always be Lois and Clark, because of this lines and these kind of scenes (so cool, thanks writers hehe)
So... you have to be honest... clana is finishing!!! and clois is coming soon!!!
jaime,oburg
01-22-2006, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by lyric96
Some people need to watch back SMALLVILLE PILOT and see little Lana and little Clark and listen then to "Everything" (Lifehouse) and then you figure out that they are meant to be together....
Even if Clark will get with Lois, someday he'll run back to Lana. CLANA forever!
Oh yeah that is what the fans would look forward to seeing,
a pu$$y whipped superhero.:rolleyes: Lana does have more of a destructive effect on Clark than Kryptonite.
Everything we've waiting to see? You mean all the lessons that Clark has learned that have helped him mature over the past 4 years are being pi$$ed away because of his teenage obession. A marriage proposal because you are afraid of losing someone. Clark has a lot to learn about true love.
There is no difference with Chloe and Pete knowing the truth. Some say that Clark came clean with Chloe and Pete because he had to and that he is telling Lana because he wants to. No WAY. He is telling Lana because he is afraid if he doesn't he will lose her (to Lex, for not being honest.. whatever, you can fill in the blanks). That sure as hell is not free will. He isn't telling her of free will, once again he is forced to reveal his secret because of the consequinces if he doesn't.
Originally posted by Old Juan
Yep Clark is acting like a grade A prick. Frankly I think the definition BDA should be changed from Big Dumb Alien to Big Dumb A--hole. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Once again Old Juan you have me LMAO!
supremeoutcast
01-22-2006, 07:20 AM
Lois is the only one Clark ever willingly divulges his secret to. If that doesn't prove she's the one, nothing does.
jaime,oburg
01-22-2006, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by MBCorp
That's what I was thinking, they've really marvelized this version of Superman.
Extactly! Isn't the choices that Clark makes as a young man help seperate him from the rest of the Peter Parkers and Bruce Waynes that makes him king of the other Superheros. Selflessness not guilt or anything else is what makes Clark want to become Supes.
SmallvilleMan
01-22-2006, 12:43 PM
It ain't a fire......it's just the six candles (Clark's maturity level in chronological earth years) on Clarkie's cake.....Clark....repeat after me....."you can't have your cake and eat it to"......upset......no....it was more like "oh brother, here we go again".
I'm surprised you don't think he's the real villian of the story.
CK&CK
01-22-2006, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I'm surprised you don't think he's the real villian of the story.
Actually, sometimes...... I wonder if Sageth isn't the real hero of the story.......just like Lexy said.
Crazy4Smallville
01-25-2006, 10:31 AM
Oh, you know that Lana is the true superhero & villian of the story. Everything is about her - the history, the mythology, the love, the obsession, etc. She is the central figure of this story - not Seegeth, Lex, Clark, Jor-El, Namaan, etc. Lana Lang Small - (heck even the town owes allegiance and its name to her ancestors) is the center of the Smallville universe.
Her distant relatives were involved with the crystals that formed the Fortress of Solitude. Her great aunt had a sexual relationship with Clark's father, Jor-El and her father is Henry Small, whose family founded Smallville and was given the legend of the Kawatchi Indians and their secret of Namaan and Segeeth. Not to forget that Lana is the reason that General Zod's cronies were released onto Smallville, she is the love of Clark Kent and Lex Luthor and her parents were killed by the meteor rocks during Clark's arrival.
This of course, is all aside from the being the object of obsession from just about every freak of the week and Smallville's own American Sweetheart. She's a miracle unto herself. Heck, if I were Lana Lang, I would think that I was the superhero of the story after everything I had gone through, endured and was linked to - etc.
So, who needs a superman when you have a Lana Lang? She'll be able to dispel her enemies with one kiss. Clark and Lex are both vulnerable to her powers.
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by supremeoutcast
Lois is the only one Clark ever willingly divulges his secret to.
Yes, that is so True. Lois is "THE ONLY ONE" Clark willingly revealed His secret too.
Clark ask Lois's hand in marriage, She actsepted, Then Just before The Wedding Day, Clark tells Lois . He's SUPERMAN .
kryptohag
01-25-2006, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by puddinpiester
Oh, geeze. Another "only one." TW is right. Clark is an idiot. King of superlatives. I'm waiting for super Kryptonian intellect. You know, the kind of intellect where Clarks thinks with his "big brain." I guess the here and now mentality hangs heavy on Clark. I know Lois is his future one true love, But right now on SV, Lana is his one true love. Too many one true loves.
I completely agree with this person. This is why I'm upset with all the foreshadowing about his love life. I know in the end Lois will be with him, but this only happens when he becomes SUPERMAN. Right now, he is only a young adult trying to figure out his life and Lana at this particular moment in time. I guess what I'm trying to say is, that the writers should at least respect his love for her right now and then see where it goes from there. Make it a "bittersweet" moment, like Tom said, when both realize that they aren't meant to be together. As of right now, I for one enjoy the Clana moments when their in love and happy, not fighting and stalking each other.
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I just think its funny that he's with Lana but he's still miserable. And he's miserable because he has these gifts that can help mankind but he doesnt really care. There still a burden to him and they are in the way of him being with Lana. He still doesnt get it imo.
If Clark was perfectly happy with saving people and not caring about his personal life, it wouldnt really make much of a show now, would it?
No-El
01-25-2006, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Yes, that is so True. Lois is "THE ONLY ONE" Clark willingly revealed His secret too.
Clark ask Lois's hand in marriage, She actsepted, Then Just before The Wedding Day, Clark tells Lois . He's SUPERMAN .
if they did that in Smallville, it would blow everyones mind!
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by superman8
CLANA FOREVER
OF COURSE CLANA IS FOREVER!!! WITHOUT CLANA, WOULD THERE REALLY BE ANY POINT OF WATCHING SV ANYMORE JUST SO I COULD BE TORTURED AND WATCH CHLARK OR CLOIS? I DON'T BELIEVE I COULD HANDLE IT!!!
angelfire east
01-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I agree and have stated as much since "Mortal" aired. But with the existance of the "Leech" episode....can you believe that there are actually some fans that defend his choice in Mortal? Me, personally, I don't care what the reasoning is......because with the existance of the "Leech" episode, this just shows Clark loosing IQ points with each fresh new episode that airs......but wait that's only 99 episodes so far......so he's probably also lossing IQ points every time he goes to the bathroom.......because we all know that's what he has for brains...........Big Dumb A** that he is.[quote]
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, i can't believe some fans defend his choice. I mean, seriously, why would anyone want their perfect life?:rolleyes:
But he's not getting a perfect life without his powers. No life is perfect with or without super powers.
Not having superpowers is no gainty that life will be good let alone "perfect". Clark's "everything would be so much better wihtout superpowers" is unture, he doesn't know what it would be like. When Clark lost his powers things where going great with Lana, he was still friends with Lex, things with Chloe where good too. Without powers he still wouldn't be frineds with lex after what Lex did. Clark only really got to have the good times with Lana, he didn't have the fights with comes with every relaionship yet. They still would have happened without him having powers. It's part of nomral relaionship there are good times about bad times. He's seen that with his parents. Not having powers doesn't equal happy ever after with Lana. Relationships, normal relationship, don't always work. No matter how much two people love each other thigns don't work. It's a fact of life. Clark's not looking at what his life without powers would really be, he's seeing a unrealict fantasy that nothing could live up too, even if things with Lana where going great right now.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 02:20 PM
That's true... but are you saying you don't think that Clana will work out? Because if you are, I'll have to shoot evil death rays to you! Just joking...I'm not that much of a fruitcake!:p
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 02:25 PM
but are you saying you don't think that Clana will work out?
Inorder For Clark To become SUPERMAN, clana got to end.
It has been that Way in every version of the Superman story.
soon2Bmrs.clark kent
01-25-2006, 02:26 PM
urr get over it lana is gone dead out of the picture whatever you want to call it. clark and lana would never work out because they are both drama queens and get upset to easily and are very sensitive (ecspecially clark when it comes to his secret) o ya and they want to know evrything!!!! :mad:
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Inorder For Clark To become SUPERMAN, clana got to end.
It has been that Way in every version of the Superman story.
yea... that's kinda true... but TPTB has already changed a few things in SV from the way they were in the comics, and they don't have to follow the whole Clois thing.
angelfire east
01-25-2006, 02:32 PM
I agree with a lot of what's been said here, to quote even some of it would make for a very long post so I'm just going to say a few names of those I agree with most of what MBCorp, Nospam, PETER WEST, LexLuthorMetropolis, F-Stop Blues, FotW, Lifebound, Timester, and The Ship! had to say. There are others too but I'll put there names up later:)
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by soon2Bmrs.clark kent
urr get over it lana is gone dead out of the picture whatever you want to call it. clark and lana would never work out because they are both drama queens and get upset to easily and are very sensitive (ecspecially clark when it comes to his secret) o ya and they want to know evrything!!!! :mad:
How can you say that lana is out of the picture? Aren't Clark and Lana in a deep relationship. I don't know about you, because maybe you haven't seen the SV previews that I've seen... CLARK SLIPS THE ENGAGEMENT RING ONTO LANA'S FNGER!!! Of course, marriage isn't always a permanent fixture, but it would last with Clana!!!!:o :o :o :mad:
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 02:37 PM
Marriage would last with Clana? :rotfl: With the trust issues and secrets and lies those two have? :lol:
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
yea... that's kinda true... but TPTB has already changed a few things in SV from the way they were in the comics, and they don't have to follow the whole Clois thing.
Yes, that's true but their are three things TPTB Can't Change and even Al & Milles have said this.
(1) Clark Kent becoming SUPERMAN
(2) Lex Luthor becoming Clark/SUPERMAN's enemy.
(3) Clark Kent ending up with Lois Lane.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 02:42 PM
yea but if Clark reveals all to Lana and everything goes well...WHICH, IT PROBABLY WILL AFTER A WHILE, all the trust issues and secrets and lies you talked about would be gone. Besides, if Clark ended up with Lois and Lana ended up w/ someone else, like Lex, they would probably still be pining for each other
Whoops...this is a reply to Lois and Clark Fan
angelfire east
01-25-2006, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Yes, that's true but their are three things TPTB Can't Change and even Al & Milles have said this.
(1) Clark Kent becoming SUPERMAN
(2) Lex Luthor becoming Clark/SUPERMAN's enemy.
(3) Clark Kent ending up with Lois Lane.
I was just going to say that :lol:
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 02:50 PM
Nope it won't go well, even Al Gough has said that.
This is from a recent K-Site interview with Al Gough:
Why has it taken so long for Clark to just tell Lana his secret?
GOUGH: I think there's always an issue of, you've got a couple super hero dilemmas. One is can the person take it? Will they look at you as a freak, and run the other way? Two is, girlfriend to super hero. Always in a lot of trouble. And that would only get worse, especially if she knew the secret. And thirdly, I think there's always the question of 'is she really the one?' You know, which we from the comics know that ultimately she isn't.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 02:54 PM
too many posts to keep up with... but I will try my hardest to spport dear, sweet, perfect, angelic Clana!!! Where are all the Clanaists? I need support!!! Anyways, how can you explain the chemistry Clark and Lana have always had together?
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
[B]yea but if Clark reveals all to Lana and everything goes well...WHICH, IT PROBABLY WILL AFTER A WHILE, all the trust issues and secrets and lies you talked about would be gone.
Besides, if Clark ended up with Lois and Lana ended up w/ someone else, like Lex, they would probably still be pining for each other
No, your wrong, When Clark ends up with Lois (he'll be so madly in love with her, that He will ask her to become his wife. And He'll never want to lose her.) Lois will by then be The "eternal" Love Of Clark's Life. he won't even be thinking about lana.
Where Lana will always be thinking & hoping that Clark will come back to her. But That's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEND.
SUPERMAN/Adult Clark Kent is "Eternaly" Devoted to Lois Lane Kent. His SOULMATE
smallvilleobsessor17
01-25-2006, 03:09 PM
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. LANA IS CLARK'S ONE TRUE SOULMATE...IF ONE OF THEM WERE TO DIE, THE OTHER WOULD TOO BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SO SAD. LUCKILY FOR YOU, MY LITTLE SIS NEEDS THE COMPUTER AND I HAVE TO LIE DOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE I HAVE A KILLER HEADACHE FROM A COLD. But, to warn you, I will be back tomorrow for seconds!
P.S.
I'm sure all of you Loisers just love my avatar! Enjoy it!
Wow...that didn't sound that evil in my head!
Mwahaha!!!!!!!!!!
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
I was just going to say that :lol:
lol
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
[B][SIZE=4]I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. LANA IS CLARK'S ONE TRUE SOULMATE
Well Here is Proof you are WRONG.
SUPERMAN's Wedding (http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/SupesWeddingBeyond0021.jpg)
Thanks to Happy ending.org for the pic.
shy175223
01-25-2006, 03:31 PM
thank you, PETER WEST for pointing that out.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. LANA IS CLARK'S ONE TRUE SOULMATE...IF ONE OF THEM WERE TO DIE, THE OTHER WOULD TOO BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SO SAD. LUCKILY FOR YOU, MY LITTLE SIS NEEDS THE COMPUTER AND I HAVE TO LIE DOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE I HAVE A KILLER HEADACHE FROM A COLD. But, to warn you, I will be back tomorrow for seconds!
P.S.
I'm sure all of you Loisers just love my avatar! Enjoy it!
Wow...that didn't sound that evil in my head!
Mwahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Avatars don't bug me why should yours, we all know that Lana Fu only exists when the writers want to make Lana look like she can actually take care of herself :p
Anyways if Lana and Clark are soulmates then why don't they stay together? Why does he leave her to become Superman? If they were meant to be then they'd stay together.
You can only have one soulmate in life and for Clark that's Lois. Sorry if you don't like that, but it's fact proven over and over in the comics.
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
You can only have one soulmate in life and for Clark that's Lois. Sorry if you don't like that, but it's fact proven over and over in the comics.
I'll go further than just the comics.
In The SUPERMAN Mythology - Lois is and always will be Clark Kent/SUPERMAN soulmate .
In - Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
- Lois becomes Clark Kent/SUPERMAN's Wife, And it was revealed Lois was in fact Clark's soulmate .
And very soon in Animation - Lois will find out Clark is SUPERMAN, setting up the stage for SUPERMAN's wedding .
Lara Lane
01-25-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. LANA IS CLARK'S ONE TRUE SOULMATE...IF ONE OF THEM WERE TO DIE, THE OTHER WOULD TOO BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SO SAD. LUCKILY FOR YOU, MY LITTLE SIS NEEDS THE COMPUTER AND I HAVE TO LIE DOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE I HAVE A KILLER HEADACHE FROM A COLD. But, to warn you, I will be back tomorrow for seconds!
Ouch... it actually hurts reading this post and not only because of the huge font size...
No, really, the only place where Clana will live happy everafter is in fanficdom
How's your cold?
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
I'll go further than just the comics.
In The SUPERMAN Mythology - Lois is and always will be Clark Kent/SUPERMAN soulmate .
In - Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
- Lois becomes Clark Kent/SUPERMAN's Wife, And it was revealed Lois was in fact Clark's soulmate .
And very soon in Animation - Lois will find out Clark is SUPERMAN, setting up the stage for SUPERMAN's wedding .
I like what was said on L&C ;)
H.G. Wells: It seems that your soul is intertwined with hers. Like . . . soul mates.
Lois: Soul mates?
H.G. Wells: Wherever his was, there was yours. Never one without the other. Two lovers destined to meet and fall in love, over and over again, throughout time.
:D
Small2
01-25-2006, 04:31 PM
There may be some confusion here on the definition of a "soulmate".
I've taken the liberty of copying the various definitions. You may want to pick one or more for your discussions of who is Clark's "soulmate".
Enjoy.
Definitions of Soulmates
Classic Meaning of Soulmates
The concepts of soulmates arose from Greek mythology. According to the story, our ancestors once had 2 heads, 4 arms. They did something to offend a god so that god punished them by splitting them down the middle, resulting in the creation of humans. As a punishment, we are condemned to spend our lives searching for the other half, our soulmates.
Spiritual Soulmate Concepts
Many religions and spiritual paths believe in reincarnation and the concept of karma. Through reincarnation, soulmates may spend many lifetimes together in past lives. Other spiritual methods of searching for one's soulmate are astrology, numerology, palm reading, personality types, and magic. Modern spritual paths often blend western and eastern philosophies.
Companion Soulmates
These are people that we encounter through their life. These are usually friends, teachers, mentors, or other people who have helped you achieving a life's goal or helped you out of a crisis.
Twin Soulmates
These types of soulmate are your closest friends or a person whom you really click with. According to those who believe in reincarnation, you have already met them in a past life, and in this life you are continuing the relationship. There is an emotional bond between these soulmates and each is able to sense the feelings of each other..
Twin Flame Soulmates
This is the most popular type of soulmate. There is usually one twin flame soulmate for each of us. Twin flame soulmates have spent multiple lifetimes together in past lives. There is incredible chemistry and attraction towards each other. They "complete" each other and only few lucky people are able to find their twin flame soulmate. Twin flame soulmates, if separated, usually suffer enormous pain.
And a little bit more.
Soul Mates and Twin Flames are not the same thing. Soul Mates are other souls that have agreed to connect with you on this planet for a purpose. In some cases it is to clear up karma, in other cases it is to finish unfinished business, and for some it is to accomplish a particular goal together. These relationships may be a joy to be in or these relationships may be a pain in your life. Either way they are here for a reason.
When Soul Mates first meet they sometimes feel as if they already know each other. They may feel very familiar to each other. Soul Mates can have a beautiful relationship together, but it will take work. Soul Mate relationships may last a lifetime and others may only be for a particular purpose and be temporary. You can have more than one Soul Mate in a lifetime.
Twin Flames are very different and very rare. Twin Flames are two people in two separate bodies that share the same Soul. Twin Flames meet each other in their first incarnation so that they remember the soul frequency of the other being. They are then usually reunited on their last time to this planet. If Twin Flames meet before they are ready they can be the total opposite and not at all compatible. When Twin Flames meet and are ready for each other, it is the most enjoyable experience possible on Earth.
At this point, Twin Flames are almost identical. They truly compliment each other and it is a hardship for them to be apart. As an outside observer it is sometimes hard to distinguish the two people. They also have a very strong bond and often have telepathy with each other. Their lives even before meeting each other have many parallels. Again, meeting your Twin Flame is very rare on this planet.
So, all relationships serve a purpose and should be honored and appreciated for what they have to offer you in your personal spiritual growth. Thank the person and the experiences for all that you have had the opportunity to learn and clear. Know that ALL relationships are sacred, because they bring us closer to the Light of All That Is. Amen and Be Blessed!
Isn't the internet great!!
Maybe Clark can have two "soulmates"
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 04:38 PM
Wow so many, thanks for posting that :)
shy175223
01-25-2006, 04:47 PM
well, whatever the defintion of soulmate, Lois IS and will always be the one and only SOULMATE for Clark.
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I like what was said on L&C ;)
H.G. Wells: It seems that your soul is intertwined with hers. Like . . . soul mates.
Lois: Soul mates?
H.G. Wells: Wherever his was, there was yours. Never one without the other. Two lovers destined to meet and fall in love, over and over again, throughout time.
:D
I love that quote.
It proves that in The end [DESTINY] made damn sure Lois & Clark would end up together for All Eternity ;)
Lara Lane
01-25-2006, 04:50 PM
Small2, excellent posting! I already knew about twin flames.
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Small2
Maybe Clark can have two "soulmates"
No , Clark like every other Superhero that has gotten married. Has only "ONE" "Soulmate.
Clark Kent/SUPERMAN's soulmate is Lois Lane . Lana was his (first love) that's it that's all .
Small2
01-25-2006, 05:27 PM
I love your conviction PETER WEST.
But wait, what's to say the Clark Kent in SV doesn't marry Lana. We know he has already proposed and she appears to have accepted. Maybe they go through with it, and something happens after they're married which separates them. This is SV after all.
Are you saying Superheroes only get to marry one person, and that's why they only have ONE soulmate? Or is it just the most current person they are married to which is their soulmate?
Seems a bit antiquated that superheroes only get one go around with marriage.
I still haven't figured out what the advantage of being a superhero is. :-)
angelfire east
01-25-2006, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Small2
But wait, what's to say the Clark Kent in SV doesn't marry Lana. We know he has already proposed and she appears to have accepted. Maybe they go through with it, and something happens after they're married which separates them. This is SV after all.
I somehow can't see tptb taking it that far. I for one don't want to see it go that far. Lois is the one he marrys not Lana.
I'll say this about Clark's love for Lois, since I 'm not getting into soulmates. It's quote from a bio summery of Wonder Woman (who she is to Superman) on the Superman home page and came across this quote:
At one stage, both Wonder Woman and Superman were transported to Valhalla, where they assisted Thor and other Asgardians in protecting that realm against demons. The two spent nearly a thousand years in this long war, but proved victorious. Even when thinking they would never return to Earth, Superman resisted urges to be romantically involved with Wonder Woman, stating "Even if she is... gone... a thousand years and another world past... Lois is still the only one." Wonder Woman respected Superman's actions, and the two proved to be true friends (ACT #761).
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Small2
I love your conviction PETER WEST.
But wait, what's to say the Clark Kent in SV doesn't marry Lana. We know he has already proposed and she appears to have accepted. Maybe they go through with it, and something happens after they're married which separates them. This is SV after all.
Are you saying Superheroes only get to marry one person, and that's why they only have ONE soulmate? Or is it just the most current person they are married to which is their soulmate?
Seems a bit antiquated that superheroes only get one go around with marriage.
I still haven't figured out what the advantage of being a superhero is. :-)
Yeah considering the fact that Superman is supposed to be a role model for people, can you seriously see Superman divorced. IMO Divorce would go against everything he stands for.
Well considering the fact that it's been said over and over that Clark & Lana will have a bittersweet ending, doesn't look like they'll be marrying.
Sorry I still believe in one Soulmate. I believe there's one person in this world we're destined to be with. Not saying we can't love other people along the way though ;)
Lara Lane
01-25-2006, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Small2
Seems a bit antiquated that superheroes only get one go around with marriage.
Superheroes have flaws and failures, yet at the end they always end up doing the right thing and that's what makes them 'super', that's why we admire them or like them.
We enjoy their commitment toward what's correct.
Monogamy and loyalty are among the corrects things in our society.
scoobycookies
01-25-2006, 05:59 PM
While there maybe different types of soulmate, I agree whenever someone refers to soulmate in popculture (comics, tv, movies, etc...), they are referring to the "one true love" soulmate. And in that case yes there is only one, that's why it's the ONE true love and not TWO true love.
yeah, I highly doubt the writers will have lana and clark marry, especially with jk dying, clark will not be in a marrying mood. Plus I don't think it would be allowed.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
I somehow can't see tptb taking it that far. I for one don't want to see it go that far. Lois is the one he marrys not Lana.
I'll say this about Clark's love for Lois, since I 'm not getting into soulmates. It's quote from a bio summery of Wonder Woman (who she is to Superman) on the Superman home page and came across this quote:
I love that quote :D There's also one that is very recent:
Superman to Lois: "You are what makes me feel like I'm part of this planet, you are my life"
and.....
"You're everything that's good about the human race. You showed me what it means to be close to someone. You inspire me to be better, to work harder for a better tomorrow. You represent everything I'm supposed to believe in. I was sent here to find you, to be with you." -- Clark to Lois, Adventures of Superman #616
:D
MBCorp
01-25-2006, 06:07 PM
The show is obviously making the point now that Lana isn't the right girl for Clark anyway. He didn't even respect her enough to tell her his secret before sex and then he had to be pushed into revealing his secret just because of jealousy of Lex and fear of losing her...yeah, I actually think the show is doing a pretty good job of showing that deep down Clark is just infatuated with Lana but that he doesn't really love or respect her very much.
angelfire east
01-25-2006, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I love that quote :D There's also one that is very recent:
Superman to Lois: "You are what makes me feel like I'm part of this planet, you are my life"
and.....
"You're everything that's good about the human race. You showed me what it means to be close to someone. You inspire me to be better, to work harder for a better tomorrow. You represent everything I'm supposed to believe in. I was sent here to find you, to be with you." -- Clark to Lois, Adventures of Superman #616
:D
Wow I really love the second quote:) Doesn't sound all that great for clana though " You showed me what it means to be close to someone."
One thing this season has shown is Clark's with Lana right, but it doesn't make him want him "be better" or "work harder for tomorrow." Chloe had to push him into helping underprivileged children in Lexmas. Her's whiny about his powers, moopy about helping people. Thought I can't see this verison of Clark ever becoming Superman:( He has be 'Peter Parker'ed into being a superhero with the death in Reakoning. Off the top of myhead the only time I can think of Clark doing something to better himself is season 2, Lana liked poetry so he started reading it.
and I liked the first quote too ,but I heard it aready so it doesn't impace:lol:
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Small2
I love your conviction PETER WEST.
Thank you Small2
"You're everything that's good about the human race. You showed me what it means to be close to someone. You inspire me to be better, to work harder for a better tomorrow. You represent everything I'm supposed to believe in. I was sent here to find you, to be with you." -- Clark to Lois, Adventures of Superman #616
Lois is the one, This quote proves it .
At one stage, both Wonder Woman and Superman were transported to Valhalla, where they assisted Thor and other Asgardians in protecting that realm against demons. The two spent nearly a thousand years in this long war, but proved victorious. Even when thinking they would never return to Earth, Superman resisted urges to be romantically involved with Wonder Woman, stating "Even if she is... gone... a thousand years and another world past... Lois is still the only one." Wonder Woman respected Superman's actions, and the two proved to be true friends (ACT #761).
Now that's What I call "True Love" Clark is so devoted to his wife Lois. That he wouldn't get romantically involved with Diana/Wonder Woman .
No-El
01-25-2006, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Yeah considering the fact that Superman is supposed to be a role model for people, can you seriously see Superman divorced. IMO Divorce would go against everything he stands for.
Well considering the fact that it's been said over and over that Clark & Lana will have a bittersweet ending, doesn't look like they'll be marrying.
Sorry I still believe in one Soulmate. I believe there's one person in this world we're destined to be with. Not saying we can't love other people along the way though ;)
Good sentiment, I agree with!;)
angelfire east
01-25-2006, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Now that's What I call "True Love" Clark is so devoted to his wife Lois. That he wouldn't get romantically involved with Diana/Wonder Woman .
Even after nearly a thousand years and thinking your never return home... that just... just wow.
thehenry89
01-25-2006, 08:40 PM
pff your all wrong lana and clark well be together forever hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahaha
(i'd like to make note that my hands were recently possesed by a crazed clana shipper)
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-25-2006, 08:44 PM
:lol:
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
pff your all wrong lana and clark well be together forever hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahaha
(i'd like to make note that my hands were recently possesed by a crazed clana shipper)
You Wish.
But HISTORY has already been written , Lois Joanne Lane-Kent is The Wife & "TRUE" Soulmate of Kal-EL/SUPERMAN/ Clark Joseph Kent .
thehenry89
01-25-2006, 09:08 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PETER WEST
You Wish.
But HISTORY has already been written , Lois Joanne Lane-Kent is The Wife & "TRUE" Soulmate of Kal-EL/SUPERMAN/ Clark Joseph Kent . [/QU
uhhh were did you get this peice of information may i ask?
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PETER WEST
But HISTORY has already been written , Lois Joanne Lane-Kent is The Wife & "TRUE" Soulmate of Kal-EL/SUPERMAN/ Clark Joseph Kent . [/QU
uhhh were did you get this peice of information may i ask?
The EVENT OF THE CENTURY !!! (http://www.usuarios.lycos.es/kalel2005/swedding.jpg)
The Wedding (http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/SupesWeddingBeyond0002.jpg)
The Proof (http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_SupesWeddingBeyond0021.jpg)
thehenry89
01-25-2006, 09:26 PM
ahhh yes i see now thanx i got alittle confused when you said clark married someone name lois lang. must have been a typo.
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
ahhh yes i see now thanx i got alittle confused when you said clark married someone name lois lang. must have been a typo.
Your Welcome .
No-El
01-25-2006, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
The EVENT OF THE CENTURY !!! (http://www.usuarios.lycos.es/kalel2005/swedding.jpg)
The Wedding (http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/SupesWeddingBeyond0002.jpg)
The Proof (http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_SupesWeddingBeyond0021.jpg)
Interesting piece of info!:(
PETER WEST
01-25-2006, 10:54 PM
And here is more proof (That this Event didn't just happen in The comics. It also happend in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
)
The Big Day (http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6717/lc914ll.jpg)
The Greatest Day Of My life -Clark Kent (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5377/stg119ck.jpg)
It's Official Your Mrs. Kent/ Mrs. SUPERMAN (http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9224/stg122ux.jpg)
P.S. This year [2006] is the year of the 10th wedding anniversary of Lois & Clark (both in The comics & L&C .
thmallville
01-26-2006, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. LANA IS CLARK'S ONE TRUE SOULMATE...IF ONE OF THEM WERE TO DIE, THE OTHER WOULD TOO BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SO SAD. LUCKILY FOR YOU, MY LITTLE SIS NEEDS THE COMPUTER AND I HAVE TO LIE DOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE I HAVE A KILLER HEADACHE FROM A COLD. But, to warn you, I will be back tomorrow for seconds!
P.S.
I'm sure all of you Loisers just love my avatar! Enjoy it!
Wow...that didn't sound that evil in my head!
Mwahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Wow that was a little big and loud, Beast. But I do agree that Lana and Clark ARE INDEED soulmates. As we all know, it IS possible for someone to have more than one soulmate, but Clark has Lana, so he doesn't need two. Lana and Clark really do love eachother, and Hois and Clark just isn't right in my mind.
Lara Lane
01-26-2006, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by thmallville
Wow that was a little big and loud, Beast. But I do agree that Lana and Clark ARE INDEED soulmates. As we all know, it IS possible for someone to have more than one soulmate, but Clark has Lana, so he doesn't need two. Lana and Clark really do love eachother, and Hois and Clark just isn't right in my mind.
They lie to each other, they keep secrets, they don't help each other to develop into their full potentials and grow up, but they seem to slow down their mutual progress, they've dated other people (well, Clark actually 'married' Alicia) and Clark's got more a feeling of posession towards Lana than love.
Lana is just too worried about herself and her tragic, tragic past. Clark is more worried about his sad, sad alien heritage ad not being normal than about her. They are not each other's priorities.
How on earth can they be soulmates???
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-26-2006, 09:02 AM
Clark can NEVER be himself around Lana. There's no trust between the two. He feels he has to be without powers to even be with Lana.
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by thmallville
Wow that was a little big and loud, Beast. But I do agree that Lana and Clark ARE INDEED soulmates. As we all know, it IS possible for someone to have more than one soulmate, but Clark has Lana, so he doesn't need two. Lana and Clark really do love eachother, and Hois and Clark just isn't right in my mind.
Well, You can believe that, But it's not true.
Lana Lang Was Clark's "First Love" (But She was not Destined to be His Soulmate.)
Just like Louise (lana's great Aunt) Was Joe/Young Jor-EL's first love, (But it was never ment to be, And Jor-EL knew that.)
And if you want to go Futher, Neil (lana's Aunt) was Jonathan's "First Love" but she was not his soulmate.
Destiny Choose
(1) Lara Sul Van to Be Jor-EL's Wife & Soulmate
Destiny Choose :
(2) Martha Clark to be Jonathan Kent's Wife & Soulmate
And Finally DESTINY CHOOSE
(3) Lois Joanne Lane To be The Wife & Soulmate of Kal-EL/Clark Kent/SUPERMAN .
So as much as all of you Clana fans want them to be together Forever . IT WON'T HAPPEND !!!
He ends up with Lois Lane, And He loves it .
Their is an Old saying
BEHIND EVERY GREAT MAN THERE IS A GREAT WOMAN
Which is true.
And in this case for SUPERMAN, That woman is his wife & Soulmate Lois Lane . ;)
thmallville
01-26-2006, 01:27 PM
^^^^ Well, believe what you want, but all us derranged Clana fans won't listen. *sticking fingers in ears* NOT LISTENING!!!!
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 01:44 PM
Thmallville, just because we know the truth about the future, that doesn't make us deranged. Just very wise and full of knowledge of what's important!
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by thmallville
derranged Clana fans
I'm Glad one of you is finally able to admit it . :D
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 01:59 PM
So? Us Clanaists are even less deranged than those strange Loisers( Hint... Hint)
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
So? Us Clanaists are even less deranged than those strange Loisers( Hint... Hint)
You know no matter How hard you try, to upset me it won't work because like I said before
Their are Three Things The TPTB of Smallville CAN NOT CHANGE.
(1) CLARK KENT Becoming SUPERMAN
(2) LEX Luthor Becoming Clark/SUPERMAN Greatest Enemy
(3) Lois Lane & Clark Kent End up together as (It Was DESTINED To Be.)
So no matter how much you say "Long Live Clana" "Clana forever" or even try to Bash Lois or Clois Fans. It Won't Matter Because in The End.
Ms. Lane "Get's Her MAN" or in This case Get's Both Her Farmboy & Her SUPERMAN .
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 02:12 PM
Hey... Peter West... I'm not trying to upset you, just stating the truth. You can try to keep saying that and relying on what the comics say, but you can't forget that Smallville is much different in many ways than the comics!
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-26-2006, 02:17 PM
Yep SV is different in many ways. But in the end Clois ALWAYS wins out :D
Clois---68 years and going strong
Clana---5 years, 4 of them as mainly friends
You do the math ;)
Clana in the comics is mostly like the Clark/Chloe relationship on SV, if this were anything like the comics Lana would have been gone last Season and Clark would now be with Lori Lemaris :p
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 02:20 PM
See... you proved my point, just in different ways. What I'm trying to say is that Clana could be around for much longer, maybe even until the end of the show. Nobody really knows for sure
F-Stop Blues
01-26-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Hey... Peter West... I'm not trying to upset you, just stating the truth. You can try to keep saying that and relying on what the comics say, but you can't forget that Smallville is much different in many ways than the comics!
Very true, but Smallville operates on certain unchangeable rules.
1. Clark Kent becomes Superman.
2. Lex Luthor becomes Clark Kent's mortal enemy.
3. Clark Kent and Lana Lang do not end up together.
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Hey... Peter West... I'm not trying to upset you,
Good.
just stating the truth.
You can try to keep saying that and relying on what the comics say, but you can't forget that Smallville is much different in many ways than the comics!
I know Smallville is different, But Their are certain things (even smallville writters) can't change . Al & Milles have already said in a recent interveiw, That by The time The Series is done Clark, Lois & Lex would reach their Destines . They will all be where they belong.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Good.
I know Smallville is different, But Their are certain things (even smallville writters) can't change . Al & Milles have already said in a recent interveiw, That by The time The Series is done Clark, Lois & Lex would reach their Destines . They will all be where they belong.
Yea... but there's a loophole! According to you, Clark, Lois, and Lex all reach separate destinies. You didn't say that Clark and Lois reach their destinies together.
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
See... you proved my point, just in different ways. What I'm trying to say is that Clana could be around for much longer, maybe even until the end of the show. Nobody really knows for sure
Actually Yes we do, Clark's actsept He's DESTINY . Clana over .
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Yea... but there's a loophole! According to you, Clark, Lois, and Lex all reach separate destinies. You didn't say that Clark and Lois reach their destinies together.
KK even said in an interview Clark in The end ends up with Lois .
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 02:36 PM
So? Perhaps she was drugged that day with some sort of denial drug, which was laced with kryptonite
F-Stop Blues
01-26-2006, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
So? Perhaps she was drugged that day with some sort of denial drug, which was laced with kryptonite
The fact is that this is a show about Clark Kents journey to becoming Superman. And part of that journey is letting go of Lana Lang. There's no need to be sad about it. They remain very close, they're just not destined to be together. She still plays an important role in his life, just not as his spouse.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 02:45 PM
It's just impossible to imagine Clark without Lana in that kind of relationship. besides that, they're so cute together!!! And why does it seem that only Cloisers go on this thread?
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
The fact is that this is a show about Clark Kents journey to becoming Superman. And part of that journey is letting go of Lana Lang. There's no need to be sad about it. They remain very close, they're just not destined to be together. She still plays an important role in his life, just not as his spouse.
When Clark becomes SUPERMAN, he's still friends with Lana. (But his friendship towards her is like a Brotherly love friendship, not a romantic relationship)
While Lana still wishes her & Clark still had that Romantic relationship, they had before His powers & DESTINY called him.
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
It's just impossible to imagine Clark without Lana in that kind of relationship. besides that, they're so cute together!!!
:rolleyes:
And why does it seem that only Cloisers go on this thread?
Because She (lana) not the one .:p
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 02:55 PM
Only in your opinion, which all Clanaists are born naturally deaf to. :rolleyes: :o :p :p ;)
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Only in your opinion, which all Clanaists are born naturally deaf to. :rolleyes: :o :p :p ;)
This Quote says it all.
Originally posted by thmallville
derranged Clana fans
I couldn't have said it better myself . :D
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 03:04 PM
Is that all you can say? You also said that in the "Can't wait for the proposal" thread! Are you running out of ideas? (Peter west)
F-Stop Blues
01-26-2006, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
When Clark becomes SUPERMAN, he's still friends with Lana. (But his friendship towards her is like a Brotherly love friendship, not a romantic relationship)
Yeah thats what Im saying. They arent romantically involved. They are friends....atleast in Clarks eyes.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 03:13 PM
yes... but in his heart, he still loves LANA!!!!!!!!!!!
shy175223
01-26-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
yes... but in his heart, he still loves LANA!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, but not the way he will love Lois!
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 03:35 PM
Of course not! He loves Lois as a mere good friend! hehe
F-Stop Blues
01-26-2006, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
yes... but in his heart, he still loves LANA!!!!!!!!!!!
He loves lana in a purely plutonic way though.
shy175223
01-26-2006, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Of course not! He loves Lois as a mere good friend! hehe
Not for long!! because she IS his soulmate.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 03:38 PM
Say what you want! We're all entitled to opinions, just not to the correct ones(hinthint)
shy175223
01-26-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Say what you want! We're all entitled to opinions, just not to the correct ones(hinthint)
well, we will see at the end of the season when Clana ends then what will you say.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-26-2006, 03:42 PM
He's obsessed with Lana, I've never once seen much love between the two. I honestly think they don't know what a real love is at this point in their lives. I mean last season Lana thought she loved Jason, and Clark thought he loved Alicia.
They've never shown us what Clark and Lana love about each other. They don't even really know each other the way people who are in relationships should.
I'm not saying anything wrong with that. No offense intended, but teenagers tend to be a bit fickle and once they get older then they know what real love is.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2006, 03:45 PM
evil!!! Clark and Lana already know what true love is! They share it with each other!
shy175223
01-26-2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
evil!!! Clark and Lana already know what true love is! They share it with each other!
well,we will see if their so called'true love' Last which I doubt this season.
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
Clark and Lana already know what true love is! They share it with each other!
:eek: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
shy175223
01-26-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
:eek: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:D ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lara Lane
01-26-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
It's just impossible to imagine Clark without Lana in that kind of relationship. besides that, they're so cute together!!! And why does it seem that only Cloisers go on this thread?
It's not that only Cloiser are in this thread... it's just that everyone knows how the story ends, come on, you must know it too. No matter how elseworld SV is. It STILL has to follow certain amount on canon and in that canon there's no Clana.
PETER WEST
01-26-2006, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Lara Lane
It's not that only Cloiser are in this thread... it's just that everyone knows who the story ends, come on, you must know it too. No matter how elseworld SV is. It STILL has to follow certain amount on canon and in that canon there's no Clana.
Lara, your are filled with great wisdom (Just like your Father & Mother.) :D ;)
thmallville
01-26-2006, 04:56 PM
You guys are being so mean to smallvilleobsessor17....she IS right. She's my friend and fellow Clana fan, which entitles me to stick up for her. Everyone has opinions, but you don't have to laugh at ours!!
Clark and Lana DO love eachother, and I dunno maybe someday (implied, after Smallville ends, of course) Clark and Lois will love eachother, but in a different way. Cuz right now Clark and Lana are in love, and Lois is not in teh picture, so TAKE THAT, Clois fans!
Lara Lane
01-26-2006, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
Lara, your are filled with great wisdom (Just like your Father & Mother.) :D ;)
Thanks! I, unlike our current Clark, am very proud of my Kryptonian heritage :lol:
I find much wisdom in your post as well Peter! And Lara is my real Name, isn't that cool?
Originally posted by thmallville
You guys are being so mean to smallvilleobsessor17....she IS right. She's my friend and fellow Clana fan, which entitles me to stick up for her. Everyone has opinions, but you don't have to laugh at ours!!
Clark and Lana DO love eachother, and I dunno maybe someday (implied, after Smallville ends, of course) Clark and Lois will love eachother, but in a different way. Cuz right now Clark and Lana are in love, and Lois is not in teh picture, so TAKE THAT, Clois fans!
Thmallville, I honestly don't think there's been some kind of mean answers toward no one here. We're just having a debate and everyone's answering with the points and knowledge that we possess about the issue, or at least I think that's how most of us have answered, giving reasons and valid points.
But saying "Clark and Lana belong together and I don't wanna know anything else" is not really a reason. Come on, let's make this more interesting, give us some real validations.
And remember this is only a show ;) no one has to get mad here
Sweetie
01-27-2006, 05:16 PM
I'm a Clois's fan too but,not in Smallville.I don't think that this relationship belongs this early in Clark's life.Lois falls for Superman first not Clark.If she falls for Clark now,it will ruin everything for the future.
I'm not Clana's fan.Simply because those two are so obssessed about each other that they don't see clearly,they don't know what they really want.They don't respect themselve enough to be completly honest with each other.They truly don't know what love is.
That's why Lois is Clark's soulmate:cool:
shy175223
01-28-2006, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Sweetie
I'm a Clois's fan too but,not in Smallville.I don't think that this relationship belongs this early in Clark's life.Lois falls for Superman first not Clark.If she falls for Clark now,it will ruin everything for the future.
I'm not Clana's fan.Simply because those two are so obssessed about each other that they don't see clearly,they don't know what they really want.They don't respect themselve enough to be completly honest with each other.They truly don't know what love is.
That's why Lois is Clark's soulmate:cool:
Another posters with pearls of wisdom.;)
kryptohag
01-28-2006, 09:44 AM
OMGod! Everyone just calm down right now. I never meant to turn this theard into a hatefest between Clana and Clois shippers. Why can't we all get along? Let's respect one another's opinion. Love to all please!!
Sweetie
01-28-2006, 01:29 PM
Don't worry.I notice that when someone mentionnes Lois it always turned out this way;)
No-El
01-30-2006, 09:32 AM
All you all need now is an episode of taut friction and conflict between Lana and Lois where Clark is concerned, if it is very well writtten and dramatically tasteful!
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