Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man's Chest

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Did someone already start this? I'm too lazy to check.

Has anyone else seen the trailer????? OMG It looks wicked good!!!

[angelfire east]

No, I want to see it, but I'm still unsure about the moive.

[Magus]

trailer looks good.

[number8]

It looks good, looking forward to it.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Can't wait to see it!

Disneyland and Disneyworld are even retooling the ride around this one!

[Lexgirl33]

Loved the teaser and i cant wait for this movie :eek: AAHH!!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

And of course there's a sequel following this that they shot back-to-back.

[k18]

I just want to see Keira Knightley again. She was hot in the first one. I really don't even care about the plot, just want to see her.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Can never have enough Kiera Knightley. :D

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Yeah she is hot, but Johnny as Sparrow is even hotter. :D

The trailer is so wicked sweeeeeeeeeeet. I'm totally excited for this movie.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I find myself wanting more with the trailer, but of course it's just a teaser trailer.

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Yeah same here. :)

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I do like the look at Davy Jones' and his snake beard.

[AlexanderTheGreat]

ME TOO!
OMG. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THAT. :D

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by AlexanderTheGreat
Yeah she is hot, but Johnny as Sparrow is even hotter. :D

I so agree about Johnny :) :)

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Here's the thing that has me hooked about the next two chapters is we have Barbossa and his crew back and a new villian, that will probably play into the two part set-up.

[Lex'sLover]

i am the BIGGEST johnny Depp fan in the entire world and i thought POTC was one of his best films (among others) and i cant wait until it comes out. Im getting giddy thinking about it. Im sooo anxious. I havent seen the trailor, i am going to try and find it tonight... i cant wait :D

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

The first trailer is available at Yahoo as far as I can remember.

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Oooh you know what I notied about the trailer?

Will and Pintel. Together. Fishy fishy.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Who's pintel?

and this movie looks good but from the trailer I don't think it will be POTCy enough :\

[Rafael122]

Why is Barbossa back if he's dead?

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Barbosa was always dead, wasn't he? and do you really think they'd let such a big plot hole like that occur?

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

The curse was lifted but I think they've found a loophole for the next two.

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Pintel is the pirate that captures Elizabeth and brings her to the Pearl. Not the one with the wooden eye. That's Ragetti. Pintel is that fatish one.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Besides it would only seem logical to bring back the characters that we loved from the first movie.

[Magus]

But barbossa is dead. He can't return.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Try and tell that to Disney. He also appears on the updated PotC ride at both DisneyLand and DisneyWorld.

Just goes to show you that you can never count a character(s) out.

[k18]

Could anyone tell me how that ride at Disney World is? I went there two summers ago, but can't remember what that ride was like. I'm pretty sure I went on it too.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Never been to either but I'm a collector of PotC.

[littlegreenelf]

Originally posted by LexLuthorMetropolis
Never been to either but I'm a collector of PotC.

No me neither. Sorry.
Dead Man's Chest looks really good. I have probably seen the trailer at some time or other :p but I mainly wanna see Jack. Johnny Depp is perfect playing him IMO!

[Lex'sLover]

i love Pirates of the Carribean!! i think it is amazing, and i cant wait till the second one.. not only is e movie amazing but pirate johnny depp? *sqeels!* I cant wait any longer ..give me POTC2!

[rae19780625]

Practically any movie with Johnny Depp, I'll run out to go watch. I loved Pirates 1 not only because of the action and comedy, but the characters had great chemistry with one another. I don't expect anything less than great in the 2nd one.

[Lex'sLover]

me neither. I think it will be amazing like the first. Then there is a third one coming out. Its a triology :)....

Ill watch anything with Johnny too... you should see my collection.

[Magus]

can't wait for this movie.

[rae19780625]

Originally posted by Lex'sLover
me neither. I think it will be amazing like the first. Then there is a third one coming out. Its a triology :)....

Ill watch anything with Johnny too... you should see my collection.

You have Cry Baby don't you? Admit it. :p I have been a fan of Johnny's since A Nightmare On Elm Street.;)

[littlegreenelf]

Originally posted by rae19780625
I loved Pirates 1 not only because of the action and comedy, but the characters had great chemistry with one another. I don't expect anything less than great in the 2nd one.

Ya huh! It's goona be good.

[Lex'sLover]

Originally posted by rae19780625
You have Cry Baby don't you? Admit it. :p I have been a fan of Johnny's since A Nightmare On Elm Street.;)

Of course i do!!! I love that movie!!! Its amazing ...hehe... Mr.Jailor is the best song EVER!

[rae19780625]

I personally like the part where they Bunny Hop... just kidding... :D

[Lex'sLover]

lmao.. that was prety funny... does anyone remember that guys face when they should it.. with the hands and wide smile, scrunched nose.. i was like OMFG! that was so funny. he looked soooo square hahaha.

Im a drape... for SURE!

[rae19780625]

Yeah... um, square is one word to describe him... thank goodness he doesn't come out in Pirates 2 with that move.

[Lex'sLover]

lol.. that would actually be pretty amusing..lmao!

[amus525]

I really want to see it

[rae19780625]

I think this movie will be worth seeing and owning. :) I think Johnny Depp had a lot to do with the popularity of this movie. He's just an incredible actor. He got this character and made it into his own. Who else could you picture to be Captain Jack Sparrow?

[Lex'sLover]

i know.. they didnt want him to do it like that at first. Disney was all worried cause the character was "Flamboyent" to put it suttle.... and ya.. he wouldnt compromise it... and it came out like that.. and he made the movie what it is. he is incredible. Without johnny it wouldnt be half as good cause the character of jack was amazing.

[Lexgirl33]

I agree, JD was excellent!! After all he did get nominated for an Oscar for his part as Jack Sparrow, so its obvious that he is one specatular Actor and should eventually win an Oscar. Pisses me off he hasnt won yet because his roles are so diverse. He can take on any role and just blow you away with it. Jack makes the movie with his humor..I am looking forward to this movie a ton..it can't come soon enough.

[Lex'sLover]

i know.. i was hoping he would get an oscar too.. but the thing is.. he said he sisnt want to win one... he doesnt buy into all that.. he just likes doing what he is doing and doesnt want to be considered as that 'serious' type of actor. Though it still would have been nice to see him win it. He always has amazing roles. I mean.. what about George Jung? in blow? that was amazing. Among other roles.

[Lexgirl33]

I didnt know that about him. Glad to know he doesnt care about all that crap. We all know he is worthy of one though. :D

[Lex'sLover]

more then Worthy!! :D

[rae19780625]

I loved him in What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Actually, I loved them all in there. Leonardo was so cool. And everyone in my family thinks I'm a freak because I liked Secret Window. I guess I'm just dedicated to Johnny's work. :p

[Lex'sLover]

that was another worthy movie (whats eating gilbert grape). I loved Leo in that movie. He did an amazing job. I LOOVE the movie secret window, and how *spoiler* phyco he was.. Skitso YAY!.. im weird like that.. i like the crazy people.

[Lexgirl33]

Ah excellent movie! :D I liked Cry Baby..he was oh so dreamy :lol:

[rae19780625]

Uh huh... I would have drank his tears :p

[Lex'sLover]

ditto!!! hehe

[rae19780625]

cool... fellow freak ;)

[Lex'sLover]

DEFINATELY lol.

[rae19780625]

Well, I'm glad.... I was starting to feel lonely... we should make a thread of everything Johnny Depp ;) that would be much easier.... I feel sorry for the guys who come in here wanting to hear about Pirates 2 and to see a bunch of women posting that they want to drink Johnny's tears!!!! I don't know the date when the movie is supposed to come out.... and I saw that another movie he did, I think called the Libertine or something was coming out to rent... I don't know what it's about... I don't know if I've seen every movie he's made but I'm pretty sure I'm close to it :D

[Lexgirl33]

Hopefully I get to see this movie on Friday! :D

[Dark Knight23]

The movie comes out tonight yay.

[Shadow116]

I get to go see it tomorrow morning I'm so siked :D.

[amus525]

I'm going to see the midnight showing

[Lexgirl33]

Me too :D woohooo!

[MidgardDragon]

Trailer didn't impress, and it's getting mediocre to bad reviews at rotten tomatoes, I probably won't bother seeing it unless my friends insist. :/

[Lexgirl33]

Im sure it wont be as good as the first, but I'll still love in regardless. Plus how can you pass up Johnny Depp? :p

[Lex'sLover]

OMFG!!! I cant f**cking wait!!!!! i love Johnny and i LOOOOVE JACK!!! AND AHHHHHHHH I cant wait im freaking out!!!!!!!!

and your right, there is NOOOOO way in hell ill ever pass up johnny :)

[Dark Knight23]

Yeah I saw it was getting medicore reviews but i still want to go see it anyways.

[Lexgirl33]

Just got back from it. It had more humor and its worth seeing. Though it wasnt as good as the first movie. Great SFX and Johnny was great as always. Loved the ending ;) Definatly a suprise in store for those who see it.

[amus525]

I liked it better then the first one. the ending wasn't that much of a surprise though(the ending as the last scene I heard he was in the movie).

[Shadow116]

I loved it Barbossa is back :lol:

I cannot wait until summer 2007 Pirates of the Carribean 3:At World's End will rule. :D

[Lex'sLover]

i want to see it SOOOOOO bad and i am calling everyone on the planet trying to find someone to go with me, and no one will,i wanna cry!

[boywithbluehanger]

Pirates 2 rocked, i was a little confused as to why Will didnt openly express reluctance to helping find Jack at the very end but ehh the fun story movie made up for just about anything that didnt fit ...besides most of the stuff isnt supposed to make a lot of sense anyhow

good movie if u liked the first you'll enjoy this!

[arob21]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Trailer didn't impress, and it's getting mediocre to bad reviews at rotten tomatoes, I probably won't bother seeing it unless my friends insist. :/

Don't ever let a movie critic tell you what or what not to see cause there view don't reflect the people. I saw it and it was a great movie better than Superman Returns I caught the first showing at movie theather in a packed audience and when it was it had great applauds.

[Lexgirl33]

Same here Arob. Of course everyone cheered for Snakes on a Plane :lol: I thought this movie was a lot of fun and it had a lot of action. I loved the make-up they did on some of the characters.

[Dark Knight23]

I saw it last night it was AWESOME!!!! and Barbosa back the third one should be sweet.

[Rafael122]

Early numbers are somewhere in the $45-$55 million range.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by arob21
Don't ever let a movie critic tell you what or what not to see cause there view don't reflect the people. I saw it and it was a great movie better than Superman Returns I caught the first showing at movie theather in a packed audience and when it was it had great applauds.

I only let reviews effect my decision when I don't really want to see the movie in the first place. In this case, I have no interest in POTC2 *and* it's getting bad reviews, so I'm not gonna see it until it hits DVD. I doubt any movie until Spiderman 3 is going to be better than Superman Returns for me, either way, though. And not only do the critics agree with me on POTC2 versus SR, but the regular joes who are reviewing the movie for fun under the "user review" section seem to like SR a wee bit better too.

[amus525]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I only let reviews effect my decision when I don't really want to see the movie in the first place. In this case, I have no interest in POTC2 *and* it's getting bad reviews, so I'm not gonna see it until it hits DVD. I doubt any movie until Spiderman 3 is going to be better than Superman Returns for me, either way, though. And not only do the critics agree with me on POTC2 versus SR, but the regular joes who are reviewing the movie for fun under the "user review" section seem to like SR a wee bit better too. You can have an opinion about the trailer looking bad or not as good as superman but you can't have an opinion about the actual movie being bad or not as good as superman. I found superman a great movie but I also found POTC2 waaay better. Besides all the citicts I know of write the horrible movies good reviews and the good movies bad reviews. NEVER RELLY ON CRITICTS TO JUDGE MOVIES!

[MidgardDragon]

I didn't say the movie was going to be bad, I said it didn't look good, and I didn't want to bother seeing it until it came out on DVD. I also said it was getting bad reviews. And since we're screaming - NOWHERE IN MY POST DID I SAY IT WAS A BAD MOVIE, JUST THAT IT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD!

Perhaps I should throw in two or three misspellings so our posts match better though?

[amus525]

Sorry but I have never really bean good at spelling or grammer
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
And not only do the critics agree with me on POTC2 versus SR, but the regular joes who are reviewing the movie for fun under the "user review" section seem to like SR a wee bit better too. this looks like you are saying the actual movie was bad. I agree that the trailer didn't really look good but the movie itself was reaaaaaaaaaaaly good. And IMO superman returns wasn't as good as POTC2.

[Lex'sLover]

Originally posted by arob21
Don't ever let a movie critic tell you what or what not to see cause there view don't reflect the people. I saw it and it was a great movie better than Superman Returns I caught the first showing at movie theather in a packed audience and when it was it had great applauds.

i completely agree with you. dont go with the critics. they are usually wrong in my opinion.


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Trailer didn't impress, and it's getting mediocre to bad reviews at rotten tomatoes, I probably won't bother seeing it unless my friends insist. :/

and YOU!!!!For Shame!

[axisoftime]

Yes it has gotten some pretty bad reviews,but I guess it didnt stop ppl from going-as it set an opening day record of 55 million bucks!It could net 120 mill in its 1st weekend-almost as much as SR has so far in 10 days.

[arob21]

I'll rather ignore a critics review and go see a bad movie(Ultraviolet) the let a Critic talk me out of a good movie. Also MidgardDragon I would tell you that POTC 2 is better than Superman Return but a few said it before I could. Superman may have been good but the special fx wasn't as good as the smallville effects were to me.

[boywithbluehanger]

i cant really compare this movie to superman returns b/c even though i enjoyed SR, i wasnt impressed by it at all. it just met my expectations, same goes for POC2 it didnt surpass what i thought it should and would be.

Both movies are over 2hrs and are enjoyable, but even though both movies rocked, i could have waited to see either.

In SR's case, the comics set the bar pretty high. And the story for 'POC curse of the black pearl' set the bar high for the sequel. But POC 2 is in no way a bad movie. Its being drilled everywhere i look and i cant help but laugh because you'd think the movie was unwatchable the way its been reviewed, i saw it had a D+ in Entertainment Weekly lol

dont believe the hype :cool:

[arob21]

Is there even one critic who said the movie was good.

[AshRose62]

I saw the twelve o'clock show and it was awsome! It was so sad at the end, though. Did you see Elizabeth and Jack kiss! wish I could kiss him! *hmph* My Johnny!

[Another-One]

Originally posted by arob21
Is there even one critic who said the movie was good.

Ign.com gave it a good score.

As for me I saw the movie today and it was ok. Better than the first one. I just felt it lacked direction the first half of the movie.

7.5/10

[Rafael122]

7.5 sounds good. I thought the plot was very confusing. You don't understand it until maybe 3/4 through the movie...understand the plot completely I mean.

Are we assuming that Elizabeth is in love with Jack instead of Will? If so, thats highly messed up, because Will and Elizabeth click, Jack and Elizabeth don't. Opposites attract and all that crap, but in this case, it just doesnt make sense. Elizabeth seems to like the thrill of a guy like Jack Sparrow, but Jack lies every single time.

I really liked Barbosa coming back.

Also, I read some reports that if you stay after the credits, there is a short scene, what is it?

[loistickyfingerz]

It was bad. It's worth renting. Weird thing is, the acting, directing and effects were all great. It's the actual story that's crap.

The whole movie just dragged and didn't get interesting until about the last 30 minutes. It's worth seeing it for basically the last hour and the last scene.

It appears the third one is where the actual story will happen, this one seemed like a drawn-out prequel, IMO.

[Rafael122]

I agree. I just didnt find the movie to be that great. It was a good movie, but the first one is a lot better. The story is just really messed up because you're not given a full explanation until you're about 3/4 of the way through.

[MidgardDragon]

Okay, is it so hard to understand this - if I want to see the movie in the first place, in the theatres, I WILL GO, no matter what critics and others say. If I have no desire to see the movie in the first place, AND the critics and reviews say it's bad, then I have 2 very good reasons not to go, the top one being - I don't want to go.

[boywithbluehanger]

geez MD i sure hope that was directed to someone in particular lol you remind me of a certain DR Seuss character from the kiddie classic 'Green Eggs and Ham' :lol:

take a breath and relax, we're all cool cats here :cool:

[muffinpeddler]

Well, I loved it! I expected a half assed job, but i really like everywhere the movie went! (Except for that horrid, Elizabeth/Jack stuff! Ick!) The amphibious men were much more diverse than the skeleton pirates, i loved them! Davy Jones was a great villian. a few flaws here and there (he never used his "Speed/teleportation" again) but i loved his look! It was a bold move, but it works! And his ship is awesome! The kracken was a bit repetious at times, but that's a small flaw! I thought it was great, and I can't wait for the next one!

[MidgardDragon]

Cool cats don't get so wound up when someone says they don't want to go to a movie.

[number8]

Also, I read some reports that if you stay after the credits, there is a short scene, what is it?

Well, I didn't have time to stay after the credits, but my friends watched it as well and he tells me that it's just a scene with the dog and the natives. The dog is now their ruler and they are about to feast on him or something. :\

:lol:

[arob21]

Originally posted by loistickyfingerz
It was bad. It's worth renting. Weird thing is, the acting, directing and effects were all great. It's the actual story that's crap.

The whole movie just dragged and didn't get interesting until about the last 30 minutes. It's worth seeing it for basically the last hour and the last scene.

It appears the third one is where the actual story will happen, this one seemed like a drawn-out prequel, IMO.

At least you scene the movie to say it suck and I respect that.

[MidgardDragon]

Did anyone in this thread who hasn't seen the movie actually say "it sucks" or did they say "I don't want to see it in the first place" ?

Sometimes I wonder if anybody else but me actually reads the posts that are made.

[amus525]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
And not only do the critics agree with me on POTC2 versus SR, but the regular joes who are reviewing the movie for fun under the "user review" section seem to like SR a wee bit better too. those are criticts who actualy saw the movie and you haven't so therefor you can't agree until you see it and if you say you agree then your saying its a bad movie. So that means you did say in your post that you don't like it. btw most cricts usualy don't see the first if there going to see the sequel

[boywithbluehanger]

yeah amus, i think i heard that before too, i think by not seeing the first movie they can judge the sequel appropriately as to whether it was a good movie in general instead of just a good continuation in a series.

i love comma splices :D

[arob21]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Did anyone in this thread who hasn't seen the movie actually say "it sucks" or did they say "I don't want to see it in the first place" ?

Sometimes I wonder if anybody else but me actually reads the posts that are made.

See me personally I wouldn't even be on the post of a movie that I wouldn't see. Also the way we see your post it looks pretty much like your talking bad about you haven't seen even if you said it in your post or not that just how it looks to us sorry.

It's official a movie that was bashed insanely by critic set the opening day weekend record orginally held by Spiderman. It sold a estimate $132 million and still counting cause it's still Sunday so it's already shattering records but it's going to destroy it.

[boywithbluehanger]

koolness, i LOVE spidey but thats just great since this time around, the entire cast once again imagined that this sequel wouldnt do well...just goes to show critics that sometimes sequels shouldn't neccesarilly be so closely compared to the orginals.

When I read the comments made by most critics reviewing this movie, i couldn't help but feel like they were expecting something extraodinarily perfect just because the first movie (POC: COTBP) was surprisingly successful. Looks like they shouldn't have been as hard on the movie because now many critics' opinions appear less credible for giving it an average of a C-

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by arob21
See me personally I wouldn't even be on the post of a movie that I wouldn't see. Also the way we see your post it looks pretty much like your talking bad about you haven't seen even if you said it in your post or not that just how it looks to us sorry.

I wasn't planning on staying in this thread long, the only thing I originally said was that I didn't want to see the movie *plus* it was getting bad reviews (never did I say I didn't want to see it *because* it was getting bad reviews.) People had to start in on that immediately, and it went downhill from there.

And, "not being on this thread" is really something you shouldn't go around saying people shouldn't do, wether they've seen the movie or not. This is for discussion of the movie, in all forms, not just for fans of the movie. There are VERY clear rules about wether or not we're allowed to tell non-fans that they shouldn't post in certain threads or forums on K-Site. Oddly enough, rules always seem to be ignored unless I'm the one breaking them. :/

[Lexgirl33]

Eveyone has their opinions. People arent going to see the movie and/or like it. It sucks if you like and someone else doesnt but I dont see what the big deal is. Is any 2nd movie to a triliogy excellent? No. Thats what they are there for, to set up for the big ending. So its understandable this movie wasnt as good or huge as the first one. Just like LotR, TTT. Wasnt as successfull as the first and third film. Just the way it usually goes. :\

[kdsch123]

Well, for the record? I thought it was wonderful. Well executed, well written and well acted. The special effects were very seamlessly done. I would see it again, and I will add it to my dvd collection when it comes out. :)

[BeldarofRemulak]

Well, I just saw the movie. I thought it was great even though I didnt remember half the things that happened the first one.. my only beef was it was like watching a end of an episode..it needed more of a plot, that is finishes and adds the "big plot" of the trilogy. The whole movie built up and up then it just ended.

But it was still a very good movie...funny. unique, and well made.

[arob21]

My the three way sword fight win best fight in the 07 MTV Movie awards.

[Ketchup]

As confusing but also as good as the first one. You have to watch it twice to get it really. In general I loved it and would recommended to well everyone.

[erratikmind]

great movie...seemed long though, but still worth it

[Dark Knight23]

I loved the movie. I saw it twice over the weekend. :)

[Rafael122]

Originally posted by Ketchup
As confusing but also as good as the first one. You have to watch it twice to get it really. In general I loved it and would recommended to well everyone.

Disagreed, the first one was very well done and not confusing at all. The second one makes you think after the movie and figure out what the hell you just watched.

[Lex'sLover]

ok.... i never usually say i dont like movies, especially when they are johnny depp, and the sequel to an amzing movie like potc. but this was horrible. the movie was turned into the typical disney movie... really kidish. And they made it so they said omething stupid every two minutes. Its didnt have the deepth or darkness and eerieness the first one had, and they made a gag every two seconds. also, they rushed the story, and suddenly brought back people who were dead, and tried to bring back every fricken character they could, like... norrington. he was so pointless. It was just dumb. I mean.. its was cute and funny, but ta isnt how pirates otc was. i mean. the first one was academy award worthy. This one.... isnt even teen nomination worthy. I dont get it. Why did they have to do it. i though the trilogy would be legendary, three amazing pirate movies! nope. i was wrong. it made me so sad almost to tears i swear. I mean i didnt hate it, i just hate what they did to it. You can so tell it was just for profit.

And Elizabeth. Somebody just stab her already. What was with her random hissy fits? she would be all kicking ass and then two seconds later, she is whining like a two uear old. They made it like a sitcom, they did something stupid every two seconds.

And they COMPLETELY RUINED JACK! ... i mean... remember what i said about the ace venturas... or at least i think i said it... anyway... they took all the small funny things.. and intensified them by 1000!!! like the walk.. ya... he can barely stand now, and runs like god knows what. And he isnt as witty or smart and sly as he was in the first one... they dumbed him right down. and that makes me so mad cause thats what was good about jack. And they totally ruined him. he was funny. and johnny still did a really amazing job except they laid it all on way to thick. And he doesnt even have a heart in this one. He doesnt give two shits, and he is just sort of like the random funny guy in movies and tv shows, like pheobe in friends, and jimmy in yes dear and stuff. i mean.... jack is still by far the best character, but they took away his edge, and how meaningful he was. Its makes me made.

but on a lighter note, ill say that there is a little bit of elizabeth/Jack. Actually quite a bit. But let me say now... she does something so horrible that she should die for it!!! GRRRRR

[Another-One]

Originally posted by Lex'sLover
ok.... i never usually say i dont like movies, especially when they are johnny depp, and the sequel to an amzing movie like potc. but this was horrible. the movie was turned into the typical disney movie... really kidish. And they made it so they said omething stupid every two minutes. Its didnt have the deepth or darkness and eerieness the first one had, and they made a gag every two seconds. also, they rushed the story, and suddenly brought back people who were dead, and tried to bring back every fricken character they could, like... norrington. he was so pointless. It was just dumb. I mean.. its was cute and funny, but ta isnt how pirates otc was. i mean. the first one was academy award worthy. This one.... isnt even teen nomination worthy. I dont get it. Why did they have to do it. i though the trilogy would be legendary, three amazing pirate movies! nope. i was wrong. it made me so sad almost to tears i swear. I mean i didnt hate it, i just hate what they did to it. You can so tell it was just for profit.

And Elizabeth. Somebody just stab her already. What was with her random hissy fits? she would be all kicking ass and then two seconds later, she is whining like a two uear old. They made it like a sitcom, they did something stupid every two seconds.

And they COMPLETELY RUINED JACK! ... i mean... remember what i said about the ace venturas... or at least i think i said it... anyway... they took all the small funny things.. and intensified them by 1000!!! like the walk.. ya... he can barely stand now, and runs like god knows what. And he isnt as witty or smart and sly as he was in the first one... they dumbed him right down. and that makes me so mad cause thats what was good about jack. And they totally ruined him. he was funny. and johnny still did a really amazing job except they laid it all on way to thick. And he doesnt even have a heart in this one. He doesnt give two shits, and he is just sort of like the random funny guy in movies and tv shows, like pheobe in friends, and jimmy in yes dear and stuff. i mean.... jack is still by far the best character, but they took away his edge, and how meaningful he was. Its makes me made.

but on a lighter note, ill say that there is a little bit of elizabeth/Jack. Actually quite a bit. But let me say now... she does something so horrible that she should die for it!!! GRRRRR

I agree.

Still a passable movie though.

[muffinpeddler]

Though i don't feel the same amount of hatred/emotion Lex's Lover has, I have to agree with all of her points. i still think it's an excellent movie, but she's right. It could have been much better!

[arob21]

It was still better than Superman Returns and honestly that kiss isn't going to be a big deal cause the only reason that happened is because Keira begged them to let her kiss Johnny Deep. We also know that a movie doesn't please everybody so it's all cool cause it still broke the record and that's all that matters.

[Shadow116]

Well despite equally bad review here as well :lol: I saw it opening day and Sunday and me and my dad are seeing it yet again possibly tomorrow. I can't wait till May next year for Pirates of the Carribean 3:At World's End

:D

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by arob21
It was still better than Superman Returns and honestly that kiss isn't going to be a big deal cause the only reason that happened is because Keira begged them to let her kiss Johnny Deep. We also know that a movie doesn't please everybody so it's all cool cause it still broke the record and that's all that matters.

I would beg to :lol:

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Disagreed, the first one was very well done and not confusing at all. The second one makes you think after the movie and figure out what the hell you just watched.

Respectfully note your opinion, but when it came out very few of my friends got the storyline after the first viewing. Meaning they understood the aztec gold and the curse and the blood, but little parts like why is the monkey undead? and why jack turned undead in the end? those things they couldn't get from the first viewing. Therefore, to the general audience of 14-15 year olds the first movie was confusing, and the second one... well that was even more so. I've seen it three times already and each time I figure new things out. Maybe I'm just stupid :lol:

[Lexgirl33]

:lol: I was very confused and plan on seeing it again..Nah you arent stupid, thats what movies are for, you just see new things each time. Makes it more enjoyable

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by Lex'sLover
but on a lighter note, ill say that there is a little bit of elizabeth/Jack. Actually quite a bit. But let me say now... she does something so horrible that she should die for it!!! GRRRRR

Yeah... that's what I thought too... until I really thought about it. I completely respect her decision.


Originally posted by Lexgirl33
:lol: I was very confused and plan on seeing it again..Nah you arent stupid, thats what movies are for, you just see new things each time. Makes it more enjoyable

Fourth time today ;)

[Rafael122]

The movie did $18 million on Monday, bringing its total to around $153 million, beating Superman. Its also done $46 million overseas, bringing its total to $200.4 million. Estimated budget was $225 million.

[Tabularasalocke]

Absolutly loved it. I didn't find the story confusing at all, so I guess I liked it more then people who found it confusing. Also to Lex'slover I would have to completly disagree with you. You say Jack has no heart, but what about the end? If Jack had no heart, no concious, wouldn't he have just left his friends behind for the cracken to kill them? I think if dead man's chest proved that Jack really was a good person and has heart.

[Lex'sLover]

Ya well.. i have calmed a bit.. yes it is a passable movie.. but it could have been SOOO much better, and they completely ruined jack and his SPOILER death scene with the slober. That was a bad way to die. And anywho... I still dont agree with what Elizabeth did, and i dont respect her decision. they could try to save him. I would never give him up so easy. And she obviously wanted him. The compass said so.. how could she do that. I could never do it to jack. i would try to save him.

[arob21]

Originally posted by Lex'sLover
Ya well.. i have calmed a bit.. yes it is a passable movie.. but it could have been SOOO much better, and they completely ruined jack and his SPOILER death scene with the slober. That was a bad way to die. And anywho... I still dont agree with what Elizabeth did, and i dont respect her decision. they could try to save him. I would never give him up so easy. And she obviously wanted him. The compass said so.. how could she do that. I could never do it to jack. i would try to save him.

As for Elizabeth it just one of those thing were we were shocked when it happened but we should of expected this.(Spoilers)






















1. When they found Will she knew he had a pirate connection but she hid it.

2. Has a facination with pirates knowing there parley code.

3. Jack told her in DMC that out curiousity she would try to be a pirate for trill.


Not to mention the smile on Jacks face was priceless when she chained him to the ship cause he knew he was right about her all along.

[Lexgirl33]

Well we know Jack lives. There wouldnt be a movie without him. If Barbossa can live after being shot in the heart than I think Jack can take a dive in the giant octopus.

[Lex'sLover]

Originally posted by arob21
As for Elizabeth it just one of those thing were we were shocked when it happened but we should of expected this.(Spoilers)






















1. When they found Will she knew he had a pirate connection but she hid it.

2. Has a facination with pirates knowing there parley code.

3. Jack told her in DMC that out curiousity she would try to be a pirate for trill.


Not to mention the smile on Jacks face was priceless when she chained him to the ship cause he knew he was right about her all along.

I loved that smile. See.. that was what was missing in Jack in the rest of the movie. The sly slick Jack. The one who figures everything out. I love him. Hopefully they bring that back a little more in the third one.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
Well we know Jack lives. There wouldnt be a movie without him. If Barbossa can live after being shot in the heart than I think Jack can take a dive in the giant octopus.

It's not a matter of surviving as much as being resurrected.

[Lex'sLover]

i hate the brining back of barbossa.. the whole point of the first one (like i said earlier) is Jack killing him... it makes me mad.. th black pearl barely mattered to jack in the second one, and he kept shooting the monkey.. jack isnt really violent unless he needs to be. and they changed that. I thin what bugs me is what they did to jack most, and how its a gag movie.

But i guess your right, but i think i agree with muffinpeddler... its not about surviving really.

and i think if someone kills you (like jack killed barbossa) you would refuse to help them no matter what... especially if you are someone like barbossa.. i mean.. come on.. tell me that wasnt a stretch!

[boywithbluehanger]

kinda reminds me of Abis Mal on alladin, who knew he'd come back....over and over and over... lol

Raid seems to kill bugs dead... too bad the same cannot be said about tv and movies regarding major characters.

[Dark Knight23]

Barbossa doesn't care about Jack he cares about the Pearl. And about making Jack violent I think the unexplained things that happened to him between 1 and 2 changed him like it did Norrington.

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by Lex'sLover

But i guess your right, but i think i agree with muffinpeddler... its not about surviving really.

and i think if someone kills you (like jack killed barbossa) you would refuse to help them no matter what... especially if you are someone like barbossa.. i mean.. come on.. tell me that wasnt a stretch!

It was a stretch to bring Barbossa back but we don't know his purpose yet. If he ends up being one of the "good guys" that will piss me off. He was evil in the COTBP so lets keep it that way. The only reason I see Barbossa helping out is if he gets something in return.

[Another-One]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
It was a stretch to bring Barbossa back but we don't know his purpose yet. If he ends up being one of the "good guys" that will piss me off. He was evil in the COTBP so lets keep it that way. The only reason I see Barbossa helping out is if he gets something in return.

He was not evil in the first movie.

He was simply the antagonist. He wanted to simply remove the curse. He was tired of it. He wanted to feel. He wanted to taste(remember the apple?). He did bad things but he only wanted to be free.

[Lexgirl33]

You are correct, he did want to get rid of the curse but did harm people in his way. Example, attacking Port Royal. My mistake on calling him evil. Not so much the evil as say Darth Vader but not one to be a hero in any way. He was still the villain of the movie .

[Another-One]

Hes a Pirate. Thats what Pirates do. :)

[Lexgirl33]

yay for pirates :p

[Lex'sLover]

I gets your guys point about how we dont know his purpose.. but i REALLY dont like him coming back.. and thats just my opinion.. i dont care what youd give me, id want the one who killed me to stay dead.. or be brought back just so i can kill them. I just think that bringing back barbossa was more then a stretch... it was dumb.. and stupid.. no matter his purpose.

[Lexgirl33]

I don't like the idea or hate it. It's just interesting how they are going to explain it. I will definatly know my answer when I see the movie, but for now I am uncertain how how I feel about him coming back. I definatly understand you though how he should stay dead. For the most part I would agree with that person staying dead. I just think they will have to come up with a really good story for him to still be alive. Im guess the lady that lives on the river brought him back to life with some witch craft. Which IMO is so stupid.

[Lex'sLover]

lol.. agreed.. i will watch what they come up with.. but im almost positive it wont change my mind... almost. :).. and she probably did.. and i think its stupid too.

[Another-One]

Well if you see the first movie again, in the final scene you see the monkey return to the chest and steal a piece of Aztec gold. That explains why the monkey is an undead monkey, but what if for a moment the curse returned to Barbossa and allowed him to heal or come back to life?

He was shot. This is true. However, that does not mean he was dead. People are shot and left for dead every day.

There are a hundred possibilities to why Barbossa is alive, and I am curious to see which one it is.

[Lex'sLover]

i still find it very corny and irritating. I never realized that about the monkey, so it does explain that. But jack shouldnt be shooting him like that.. jackisnt violent, undead monkey or not. That just my opinion though.

And to me Barbossa should still be dead.. it woul have to take something amazing to make me accept the fact that he isnt.

[Lexgirl33]

I didnt notice the monkey stole a piece of gold, so thats probabaly a big part of why the monkey is still undead and why Barbossa probably didnt even die

[Lex'sLover]

well. it was after the credits im pretty sure... i dont think that has anything to do with barbossa though, cause after all the gold is brought back, doesnt it mean, that they all can die again, and if someone steals it after, it doesnt include them does it? Cause they dont have the gold anymore, and all the blood had been given.

But i dont know.. you could be right. It would explain it. I still think its wrong though. he shouldnt have survived

[muffinpeddler]

I really don't think i can give an opinion on Barbossa's resurrection, not until world's end comes out. I do think it was a great surprise, because I had absolutely no idea he'd come back and hadn't peeked at the acting credits, so I got that "No way!" feeling in the theater!

[Lex'sLover]

ya.. i know what you mean.

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by Another-One
Well if you see the first movie again, in the final scene you see the monkey return to the chest and steal a piece of Aztec gold. That explains why the monkey is an undead monkey, but what if for a moment the curse returned to Barbossa and allowed him to heal or come back to life?

He was shot. This is true. However, that does not mean he was dead. People are shot and left for dead every day.

There are a hundred possibilities to why Barbossa is alive, and I am curious to see which one it is.

I seriously doubt that Barbossa being alive has anything to do with the curse. In fact I even doubt that Barbossa is entirely alive. But for a moment, let's assume he is. Tia Delma said that in order to navigate the waters at the World's End, they'll need someone who knows those waters... and then Barbossa came down. How would he know anything about the World's End unless he's been there before... unless he himself had to come back from the dead? That's assuming that those claimed by the sea are sent to the World's End.

But what really got me thinking were Tia Delma's words when she said that she can help Will and Co. bring both Jack AND the Pearl back. Pearl is an inanimate object... it doesn't have a soul, so why would it be at World's End? Perhaps I've been wrong in assuming that they need to travel to the end of the world to rescue Jack... perhaps they just need to go there to get somethign to control the Kraken? In which case... well... Barbossa is definitely not entirely alive, and Jack is sitting in the belly of the Kraken trying to cut himself out. And the Pearl... once the crew can control the Kraken, can they not force Davey Jones to "raise the Pearl from the bottom of the sea" again, much like he did 13 years ago?

[Shadowlord367]

Although this was not the best sequel ever, as in my opinion the action was a little bit clunky, attempted but failed humor most of the time deviated the already-not-too good plot, I think this movie set up one of the best finales to an epic ever. I thought this movie was less compelling then Curse of the Black Pearl, as it had less heart. I enjoyed every minute of it until they brought in that giant squid. I hated him. I enjoyed Barbossa as a villian more. I wouldnt have minded the Jack/Elizabeth relationship, had it been more straight forward and less back and forth. I HATED the whole I'm-a-giant-squid-that's-going-to-eat-your-boat. Yes, I am familiar with Kraken, but there could have been better ways to do that idea. Although I didn't like the plot to much, and I hated the disloyalty in Jack, I really love the color and the lighting. Even though it was a weird plot, I liked the whole scandal to save Jack, who was still a traitor anyways. Not a bad movie, just not as strong as the first one, and hopefully not nearly as good as the last one. thats just my opinion, please don't trash it.

[Dark Knight23]

Did anybody notice when Jack and co. went to go see Tia the first time with the monkey. That the Monkey went outside and where he went to was somebody outside. I say that because they show the monkey with a boot. So i;'m guessing it was Barbossa but u never know.

[Summers]

Okay, I saw it. I had more fun with this one than I did with X3 :lol:. However, it was so-so. I couldn't stand Elizabeth in this one. That sleeze :mad:. Will deserves better than that. I don't even know why she was in this freakin' movie. She just bugged. I thought how they intertwined Will's storyline with his destiny and his father was a good subplot. While Elizabeth and that compass constantly pointing at Jack...grrr. Even before that kiss she was digging him. It was neat to see the Commandor again, and I knew he would have the heart at the very end.

Plus did they ever say why Jack went to Davy Jones in the first place? Was to just command the Black Pearl in exchange for eternity on the Flying Dutchman? At times I felt the exposition scenes weren't writtened very well. At times I was following it, and then the next exposition it was hard to follow with the previous one. Plus all the subplots really didn't intertwine very well in this one. It was too jumbled.

I did like the action with the wheel that had the three-way duel :lol:. The native after the boys, and the crew in the ball :lol:. That was fun. The Kracken was kinda annoying after awhile, and the CGI of it's mouth I thought was really faulty. The CGI on the Davy Jones was really good though.

Not to mention I'm glad I didn't take my little sister to see it. Some parts would have really scared her, such as the crows getting the eyes out of prisoners sockets just like in tha actual Grimm's Cinderella. The movie was alright, but it seemed too long since it was so jumbled, and Elizabeth really pissed me off :mad:.

[Ketchup]

Davey Jones raised the Pearl from the sea or something like that. In other words, at some point someone sunk the Pearl and then Jack went to Jones to ask for help.

[Summers]

He did? They sure didn't explain it very well. I understood the heart, but they didn't explain the backstory very well at all :\.

[arob21]

This is crazy the movie is number 1 for the third straght week now that's what's up.

[Shadow116]

yep and already the #16 and rising top grossing movie of all time already just afer a few weeks and it's still doing more overseas and in theaters across the globe :).

Man what a pirate filled summer this was :lol:

[Silver Dragon]

Just a question, what exactly does Barbossa says when he comes back? I coudn`t understand the first two words. Thanks

[Dark Knight23]

If I remember quickly he says "So what has happened to my ship" or something along those lines.

[Tabularasalocke]

Um as for what Davey Jones did for Jack, when Jack first meets Bootstrap, Bootstrap does mention that Jack asked Davey Jones to raise the Pearl so they do explain it. Personally, I loved the movie personally thought it was better then COTBP but that's just me. I'm so glad Barbosa is back, he is just great and I think he's a better villian because Barbosa and Jack have more of a past together then what Jack has with Davey Jones.

[Dark Knight23]

I heard they showed footage of At World's End at Comic-Con in San Diego did anybody go to Comic Con?

[Shadow116]

Originally posted by Dark Knight23
If I remember quickly he says "So what has happened to my ship" or something along those lines.

I remember it's

"What's become of my ship?" Then he bites the apple and then it's the end :lol:.

[Dark Knight23]

Yeah Barbossa has a thing for apples especially green ones. :lol:

[Lexgirl33]

I just saw this for the 2nd time and its soooo much easier to understand it. I must say I like it more the 2nd time around and you definatly get more of the story.

[Ketchup]

yeah, u have to watch the movie at least twice.

anyway, the line's "What have you done with my ship?" if I remember correctly. there are some interesting spoilers floating about, i'm sure half of them are fake, but still very thought provoking. check out some of the PotC fansite forums.

[Lexgirl33]

"What's become of my ship" ;)

Im definatly not reading spoilers for the 3rd film. I wont torture myself.

Though I love the soundtrack. The theme for Davy Jones is awesome :)

[Shadow116]

I ended up seeing this 4 times total :lol: but I'm not watching it anymore until I get it on dvd.

But I'm not reading anything about the 3rd becasue I want to be completely suprised for the most part :).

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by Shadow116
I ended up seeing this 4 times total :lol: but I'm not watching it anymore until I get it on dvd.

But I'm not reading anything about the 3rd becasue I want to be completely suprised for the most part :).

I have yet to read spoilers for the third movie that I didn't already know... from watching the second part 6 times now? uhh addicted.

[luthorsmentor]

couldn't disagree more. i absolutely hated this movie....with a passion....i want my 14 dollars back.

[Lex'sLover]

love your avi luthorsmentor.. lol..

[luthorsmentor]

thank you very much.....i still didn't like the movie

[arob21]

I guess you also hate the fact that this movie was number 1 three weekends in a row and broke the records for most sales on the weekend.

[luthorsmentor]

no, i just was expecting more out of it. i loved the first one and this one just didn't measure up to that in my opinion. i just thought that it was dissapointing. just a simple matter of opinion. i seem to remember when that was allowed on these boards but i guess that has changed.

[Lexgirl33]

Um no your personal opinions arent allowed :lol:

I agree with you that it didnt measure up to the first one. But I still enjoyed it. The first time I saw it, I didnt understand it as well and thought it could have been better. The second time I like it a lot more. It still wont compare up to the first film though.

[luthorsmentor]

there were a few parts of it that were enjoyable. i just felt like they dumbed down the character of cap n jack sparrow. i was also bored....a lot. and that shouldn't happen in a movie of that one's supposed caliber.

[IsabelLovesLex]

I thought this was more of a kid's movie where as the first one I really enjoyed. I guess I was too pumped up to watch the second one and left the theater pretty much disappointed.

[Lexgirl33]

I agree, i was totally pumped but i left just kind of eh...The last movie that I saw that actually made me go nuts was V. This movie just didnt do it for me. I still love it though!

[Lexgirl33]

ah ha at last, just watch PotC on USA and at the end the monkey did steal a gold coin..alas thats why he is still undead.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by arob21
I guess you also hate the fact that this movie was number 1 three weekends in a row and broke the records for most sales on the weekend.

I certainly hated that. It makes me feel the world is either losing it's mind or is willing to be spoonfed the same unthinking crap by Hollywood. Mediocre action movies don't deserve to break box-office records, but I guess I better get used to the dumbing down of movies after POTC2's success.

[Dark Knight23]

What you have to remember about this trilogy that it wasn't meant to be a trilogy. Disney wa surprised that it was a hit and demanded more of the movies. So it is kind of hard to continue the adventues when it wasn't meant to be another. Also in triloges sometimes th second movie usually sucks because it prepares for the third which will be mind blowig. Hopefully, the third movie will be better than the second.

[Shadow116]

At World's End will rock.

Oh and another fun note Dead Man's Chest is the #3 highest grossing movie worldwide and its only under Return of the King and Titanic :)

Pirates rule! :)

[Lexgirl33]

Wow awesome! and yay for Return of the King! :D

[Shadow116]

Yep LOTR is my favorite book trilogy and favorite movie.

Anyway Pirates rules!