Hopw did Clark do THAT?

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Superspeed down the side of the building?

Running up the side of the building is possible but downward I dunno there.

-cs™

[son2380]

Actually in repelling there is a style called ausie style of repelling where u are literally running down the side of a wall. But in order for it to work u have to run down the wall as fast as u can. If u r to slow u will get stuck by the rope and slide down real slow. So your feet has to constantly move. So clark running down the wall at super speed is believable. But what is the point of running down the building when he could have just jumped. It would have been faster

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Jumping is something we've already seen and knowing the team they wanted to do something unique and different.

[Summers]

Thinking the same thing Derek.

It was pretty neat, but part of me hoped he would fly down kinda like what Superman did in Superman the Movie with the burgler who had problems using the elevator :lol:. Knew it wouldn't happen, but I can wish lol.

[smallvillerox05]

He could have done what he did in Spell and simply run out of the building down through all of the halls and get there just a little too late. :p

Ok, he would have been on time. :lol:

[Summers]

Window jam was in the way :lol:. Kinda hard for any stunt coordinator to coordinate the wire works to move evenly throughout the window still and down the wall.

Much easier to do the running wall deal just by going from the outside of the roof and down. It's just easier to do, and time efficient.

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I think son2380 makes a good explanation.

It appears when he's at super speed his sense of time is the same though he's at Mach 10 or something. So the repel technique you mentioned is plausible.

Makes sense since we've never seen him collide with anything. Ouch!

-cs™

[BrokenHero]

Well unless Clark is somehow especially aerodynamic, running down the wall is probably the fastest way he could have caught Santa. According to the laws of physics, if Santa fell first and Clark jumped after him, regardless of Clark's mass, Clark would only get to the bottom after Santa went splat.

Now if Clark has some ability to will himself downward through the air (or if he is extremely aerodynamic as I said before) then it would be conceivable for him to reach the ground first. This is what happened in "Dichotic "(the one with the 2 JTT's) on the dam. I'm personally pulling for the theory that he can will himself faster through the air (even if he can't quite fly yet with his conscious mind). It's either that or the force of his initial jump was so great that it sped him up fast enough to get to the bottom first. I guess that makes sense. But it also makes sense that Clark would run down the wall at superspeed. That way he can use one of his superpowers (superspeeding against a frictional surface at faster than the acceleration of gravity) to get down there instead of just being dead weight. :-)

[livn_life]

Originally posted by son2380
Actually in repelling there is a style called ausie style of repelling where u are literally running down the side of a wall. But in order for it to work u have to run down the wall as fast as u can. If u r to slow u will get stuck by the rope and slide down real slow. So your feet has to constantly move. So clark running down the wall at super speed is believable. But what is the point of running down the building when he could have just jumped. It would have been faster

Not really. Jumping equals falling. Speed is based on gravity, or 9.8 meters per second squared. Running superspeed down the wall (which depends on how fast he is running) would have been far quicker then just jumping.

[No-El]

That's good!

Considering also that scene was also "wink and nod" to a scene from the late Christopher Reeves' 1978 Superman I-The Movie:

Superman on patrol flying spots a building/wall climbing Burglar and as the burglar makes his way up with "suction cups" he tilts his head and looks up to see Superman "standing in front him, on the side of the building-----Great Perspective photography shot!!

The Burglar is shocked in disbelief and falls off his suction cups back first to the street!

Superman flies down right beside him falling and as Supes passes the burglar he says:

Superman: Going down? and stops mid-floor and catches the burglar in his arms "standing on the glass window" with a boss at his desk turning to only see bright red boots fly off and the boss goes "Na couldn't be"!!!

Like I said....great and funny scene with great perspective shots!!!

Smallville is doing a lot of "winks and nods" to the Chris Reeve movies, you just have to "closely look for them"!:cool:

[junderway]

Just to let you all know it is impossible to run up or down a building. There recently was a book published by a physicist called "The physics of superheros" he aplies realy physics to things done in comic books and there movie. Many of the things (if someone had powers are possible) but running up and down a building is not. That being said flash does it all the time in comic books.

[No-El]

Originally posted by junderway
Just to let you all know it is impossible to run up or down a building. There recently was a book published by a physicist called "The physics of superheros" he aplies realy physics to things done in comic books and there movie. Many of the things (if someone had powers are possible) but running up and down a building is not. That being said flash does it all the time in comic books.


That's the falicy here.

We are ascribing the "established laws of physics" to beings NOT Bound or Limited by such!!

We are making reference points to their abilties in terms WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY DO SEEMINGLY IMPOSSIBLE FEATS

Hence the term SUPERHERO

[Sledge]

Originally posted by junderway
Just to let you all know it is impossible to run up or down a building. There recently was a book published by a physicist called "The physics of superheros" he aplies realy physics to things done in comic books and there movie. Many of the things (if someone had powers are possible) but running up and down a building is not. That being said flash does it all the time in comic books.

You're forgetting that Clark can manipulate the gravity around him. So for him, running down/up a building can be no different then running on a flat surface.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Sledge
You're forgetting that Clark can manipulate the gravity around him. So for him, running down/up a building can be no different then running on a flat surface.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


That's it SUPERHEROES can DO JUST THAT, transcend the laws of physics!

[DukeOfSteel]

The running down the wall was also done in Resident Evil 2, although not nearly as fast.

[margroks]

Clark can easily break the laws of physics so flying down below someone who's falling is easy. Except, Clark hates the flying and all so he basically flew down but kept his feet on the solid side of the building. Time to get over it Clark!

[gusgorman]

The book actually said it was possible for Supes, actually the example used was the Flash, to run down or up buildings.

The problem was how much food Flash would have to eat.

And yes running down the building would be faster than just jumping.

[Supersonic]

But what is the point of running down the building when he could have just jumped. It would have been faster

You cant 'fall' faster than someone. And for Clark, just because he has uperspeed, and he can move his body faster, if hes in mid-air falling, all the motion in the world wont change his falltime.

Gravity was like -9.8x^2 right? or somethin. Anyways, Clark cant fall faster than someone considering he doesnt know how to fly yet.

[Sledge]

Originally posted by Supersonic
You cant 'fall' faster than someone. And for Clark, just because he has uperspeed, and he can move his body faster, if hes in mid-air falling, all the motion in the world wont change his falltime.

Gravity was like -9.8x^2 right? or somethin. Anyways, Clark cant fall faster than someone considering he doesnt know how to fly yet.

Clark has the ability to fly, but his fears are holding him back from consciously unleashing all of his power. Also, I don't think he fully understands how to control the gravity around him yet. That said, from events we've seen on the show, he's obviously able to control the gravitional field around him subconsciously. We've seen him fall faster then gravity before.

[Supersonic]

We've seen him fall faster then gravity before.

....ugh... Clark falls faster than gravity???

Gravity DOESN'T FALL. For Christs sake know a little about physics. Gravity on Earth is an acceleration of 9.8 metres per second per second, or 9.8 metres per second squared.




hat said, from events we've seen on the show, he's obviously able to control the gravitional field around him subconsciously

Please tell me where he controls the gravity arouns him aside from flying, as My original post states that Clark doesn't fly.

Tell me another instance where Clark was seen controlling gravity aside from flying.

[Sledge]

Originally posted by Supersonic
....ugh... Clark falls faster than gravity???

Gravity DOESN'T FALL. For Christs sake know a little about physics. Gravity on Earth is an acceleration of 9.8 metres per second per second, or 9.8 metres per second squared.


You're making youself look very silly by getting technical about such a simple concept. Most people don't talk like they're answering a question in their HS physics class. Oh well, just incase you really need me to spell it out for you: "clark accelerated toward earth's center of mass faster then 32 feet per second squared."




Originally posted by Supersonic

Please tell me where he controls the gravity arouns him aside from flying, as My original post states that Clark doesn't fly.

Tell me another instance where Clark was seen controlling gravity aside from flying.

You don't have to look any farther then the second episode of the first season: Metamorphosis. Mr Kent was thrown from the top story of their barn by that guy who was turning into an insect. Clark saw him falling, and JUMPED off of the top floor of the barn after his father was already in the air. Yet, clark still fell (oh sorry, "accelerated") to the ground faster then Mr Kent did. The only explanation is that clark manipulated the gravity around him. How else would he have fallen faster??

If you'd prefer a more recent episode, how about this season's 6th episode? Clark jumped up to the helicopter to grapple it with a rope, but then he fell back toward the earth faster then gravity could have accounted for. Then, he pulled the helicopter back down toward the ground. If he hadn't been manipulating gravity, he would have actually pulled himself up, instead of the pulling the helicopter down.

[Supersonic]

You're making youself look very silly by getting technical about such a simple concept.

No, I think it's just utterly blatant that there's something wrong with the idea of gravity 'falling'.


Oh well, just incase you really need me to spell it out for you: "clark accelerated toward earth's center of mass faster then 32 feet per second squared."

No need to say that. Don't imply that what Im asking for is uber snooty. All you had to say was Clark fell faster than he should have. Including gravity in there to make yourself sound smart makes you sound dumb when it looks like you don't know jack about it.

Implying that gravity falls is just plain retarded. Period. A 12 year old would know that gravity doesn't fall. The sentence just sounds wrong anyways. It's like saying the colour orange sounds kind of spicy.

And as for the 2 examples, I missed the episode of metamorphosis, but that doesnt matter to me. If it did appear that Clark fell faster than he should have, then I'd suspect the FX guys just missed it a bit. I think we've all seen loopholes in the world of Smallville. But they're subtle loopholes, that no one really cares about. That being said, I could hardly believe that it is all in an attempt to show how "CLARK CAN CONTROL GRAVITY OMGWTFBBQH4X0R!"

That's a little... "out there".

[Sledge]

Originally posted by Supersonic
No, I think it's just utterly blatant that there's something wrong with the idea of gravity 'falling'.

I think it's utterly pathetic that you interpret things so literally. Interpreting things in that nature is called "concrete thinking," and it's a normal stage of development for very young children.



Originally posted by Supersonic
Implying that gravity falls is just plain retarded. Period. A 12 year old would know that gravity doesn't fall. The sentence just sounds wrong anyways.

I totally agree that a 12 y/o would know gravity doesn't fall, thats why I was surprised that somebody would interpret my post that way. As far as the sentence not sounding right, well this is an internet forum. These posts don't have to follow perfect grammar. It's unfortunately that at your level of thinking, you require perfect grammar to understand basic things.


Originally posted by Supersonic
And as for the 2 examples, I missed the episode of metamorphosis, but that doesnt matter to me. If it did appear that Clark fell faster than he should have, then I'd suspect the FX guys just missed it a bit. I think we've all seen loopholes in the world of Smallville. But they're subtle loopholes, that no one really cares about. That being said, I could hardly believe that it is all in an attempt to show how "CLARK CAN CONTROL GRAVITY OMGWTFBBQH4X0R!"

That's a little... "out there".

Well there are MANY MANY more examples then those two. Basically the majority of things clark does don't make any sense at all if he can't to some extent control the gravity around him (I guess I notice these things faster then you b/c I'm better at physics). For example, how about when Chloe saw Clark catch the car and hold it up? He couldn't have held it the way he did b/c the car weighed more then he did. Same thing as when he lifted the tractor in another episode. Since Clark does have the ability to control gravity around him, it makes more sense that he was doing that instead of assuming that the special effects are incorrect every single time he uses his powers.

[Supersonic]

I think it's utterly pathetic that you interpret things so literally.

x'D Ok. So someguy says he's going to drive a car, and its pathetic that I expect him to do so.

What's worse is there's no level of interpretation. The fact is you implied that gravity fell. That on its own just sounds plain retarded.


These posts don't have to follow perfect grammar. It's unfortunately that at your level of thinking, you require perfect grammar to understand basic things. Right... so out of the blue I "require perfect grammer to understand". Im not sure where you pulled that out of... considering the original idea is that you claimed gravity to fall... Of course these posts don't have to follow perfect grammer. That's obvious, as everyone is fallible. But I understand your post. What's worse is I understand how poorly your mind works.

sigh, there's really no way to convince you. The fact is what you said sounded ridiculously retarded, and you're trying to defend it by saying that any accusations against it are by 'some concrete-thinking moron'

You could interpret anything 2 ways, and there's just no way to get you to admit that saying that gravity falls sounded retarded.

Go on and over-complicate things. Bottom Line is Gravity doesn't fall. Got a problem with that?


Since Clark does have the ability to control gravity around him, it makes more sense that he was doing that instead of assuming that the special effects are incorrect every single time he uses his powers. I don't think its reasonable to assume that the FX guys are infallibale.

Talk about hypocrisy: You find it pathetic that I interpret things so literally while you go and interpret the Fx (Which are meant to look fun and give that "sparkly and dazzy" feel) so literally.

You cannot accept that the Fx guys are falliable?

[HowieUK]

I loved this effect. Its always good to see him do something new that we haven't seen before.

And its a good question about him not being able to fall faster than Santa could. I never considered the aerodynamics before... Why won't he just wake up one day, realise flight is fun if you are invincible, and take off?!

[No-El]

Originally posted by HowieUK
I loved this effect. Its always good to see him do something new that we haven't seen before.

And its a good question about him not being able to fall faster than Santa could. I never considered the aerodynamics before... Why won't he just wake up one day, realise flight is fun if you are invincible, and take off?!



Well Al Gough in interview said this Season 5 is like "Superman in Training" so wait till season 6!!!:p :p :p :D :D

[LionelLuthor]

Can you two shut up arguing, its getting really old, not to mention off topic.

Well, as previous posters have said- in the comic book world, anything is possible! This effect was something that we had never seen before on Smallville, so I guess that the creators were just trying something new and mixing it up.
Does any one remember this effect on Sonic adventure 2? lol :p

[driv-el]

If an airplane is headed directly towards earth, then fires its jet engines, wouldn't its speed increase as it "fell" to the ground?

Clark's traction and superspeed on the face of the building would have added to his velocity, wouldn't it?

[No-El]

Originally posted by driv-el
If an airplane is headed directly towards earth, then fires its jet engines, wouldn't its speed increase as it "fell" to the ground?

Clark's traction and superspeed on the face of the building would have added to his velocity, wouldn't it?


You are forgetting, Clark can "STOP INSTANTLY on A DIME" if need be! He's still Kryptonian in Nature and the Laws of Physics he can control with his abilties!

[Flying]

Originally posted by CLS
Superspeed down the side of the building?

Running up the side of the building is possible but downward I dunno there.

-cs™

another moment in smallville:)

you should change the title of this thread

or wait i dont think u can do that

oops my bad i know you have probably heard that a lot