Loved it? Hated it? What did YOU think of "Lexmas?"

[Slade]

:D Love it or hate it?

Even though its not out yet but I call dibs :D

[NotTodayPete]

Love it. Why? cuz it's the first Smallville in 3 weeks. Woo hoo!

[SmalliesMatt]

why was there a break? did the cast have time off?

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by SmalliesMatt
why was there a break? did the cast have time off?

I was thinking that same thing because it seemed stupid to take a break only to come back and air one episode before going on an even longer break. But then it hit me...

My guess is that since it is a Christmas themed episode, they had to wait and air it in December.

[sunshine1973]

I was wondering the same thing here.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by vyperman7
I was thinking that same thing because it seemed stupid to take a break only to come back and air one episode before going on an even longer break. But then it hit me...

My guess is that since it is a Christmas themed episode, they had to wait and air it in December.

Plus, they also didn't want it to air on Thanksgiving, they probably figured the ratings would be horrible. Of course since this ep hasn't been advertised that much (everytime I scan the WB hoping they air a Lexmas promo, all I got was "Related" promo's! Just for that, I'm boycotting "Related")...and its only one ep before an even longer break....I predict ratings won't be good on this one either. Too bad, it looks really good.

I voted "A", because it has Lexana! So I know I will love it! I'm a little worried about the "last five minutes" thing, but i'm sure i'll love it regardless! :D

[Hendo]

yea it's a little early to be starting this just because you want to be the thread starter lol

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by Hendo
yea it's a little early to be starting this just because you want to be the thread starter lol

Oh well, its too late now.:lol:

[allison89]

I said A because it came right when I needed a Smallville fix :D

[LionelLuthor]

A!!!!! It seems ages since we last had a Smallville fix!!
We wig you a merry Lexmas and a slaphead new year!

[TrevorH]

Dibs? why dont you call dibs 1 seocnd after it airs atleast..not the morning before when no one saw it. Anyways yeah I like the screencaps it looks good and we get to learn more about Lex and we also get this episode to get us in the christmasy season while we wait until new year for the next SM episode.

[ProudPenny]

Please post your general loved it/ hated it /worst/best episode ever types of feedback about the eppy here. Please DO NOT start a separate thread about your general opinion of the show. Thanks!

[sstray72]

Eh, it was alright. Hated the Lexana, hate even more the fact that the predictable and cliche'd death of Lana will catalyze the path of Lex into darkness. Blech to Lana. The B-plot was lame. It had it's moments, but I give this ep a C.

[vyperman7]

Could it be anymore of a SW rip off? I have not seen the episode yet, but when I read that Lex decides to become evil to keep Lana from dying, it made me sick. The lamest excuse they ever could have come up with. Lex becomes evil because it is his nature and ultimately who he is. LANA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. This pretty much guarantees that Clark and Lex will have their falling out because of Lana as well.

Why the hell do they have to make Lana such an important character? She is Clark's love interest plain and simple. Not some major force in the mythology...

Man that pisses me off.

[Lexgirl33]

I really enjoyed this eppy! I loved the fact that it was a lot of Lex..Im glad lex chose the path to destory jonathan in the run.. Ahhh I can smell the evilness. I also really liked how it's all about power to Lex. I cant wait to see what his plan is, enenthough it's kind of obvious. But I gave this episode a B

[tw190]

I voted A. :)

[loistickyfingerz]

Lex's mother did not do a very good job of guiding Lex. If she was trying to help him make the right choice, she left too much unexplained.

And since she is his mother, and there was a huge focus on Lex and Lana's children, and Lex even used them when pleading with Lionel, for heaven's sake why didn't "yes, there are people who love you very much and are still alive and need you" ever come out of her mouth? Or, "Make these choices, Lex, and you can have 7 happy years with Lana and two of your children to raise that will love and adore you forever."

As far as Lex goes, I think this episode solidified his feelings for Lana, and now that he knows its possible to get her, he may not make those "right" choices, but with money and power and the possibility of her love in his mind he work hard to get her and then keep her alive.

I think it's a workable concept, but for my money, Lana's going to have to do a lot of changing of her priorities in the "real" world to make it work.

Just on a personal note, I am sick of lines like "She's perfect", "yes she is!" Bleck! Clark, grow up and out of that phase! The real future love of his life would be smacking him upside the head for saying something as corny as that.

Wasn't it great to find out that Aunt Nell wasn't pushed off the continuity cliffs of insanity and she still exists?

[Lexgirl33]

Eventhough Im not a Lexana fan, it was very cute!

[PeteM]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Could it be anymore of a SW rip off? I have not seen the episode yet, but when I read that Lex decides to become evil to keep Lana from dying, it made me sick. The lamest excuse they ever could have come up with. Lex becomes evil because it is his nature and ultimately who he is. LANA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. This pretty much guarantees that Clark and Lex will have their falling out because of Lana as well.

Why the hell do they have to make Lana such an important character? She is Clark's love interest plain and simple. Not some major force in the mythology...

Man that pisses me off.

Watch the episode. It wasn't really about Lana. You could have put somebody else as Lex's dream wife and the result would have been the same.

What Lex learned from his Scrooge visions was that he couldn't be happy without Power and Money. Love is temporary and leads to pain because everybody he has ever loved dies. Whereas, Power leads to happiness that can be protected and made to last.

I liked the episode.

[Vatusia]

Well first of all, I just want to let you guys know how happy I am to be back in this forum after my long hiatus! And I'm pleased to have the opportunity to write my thoughts on what I thought was a lovely Smallville episode.

I have really come to enjoy Holly Harold's work. Yes, the climax of the episode was a blatant and unabashed theft of the Revenge of the Sith storyline, but one could argue that it's payback as George Lucas was surely heavily influenced in his depiction of 'nice guy/ambiguous Anakin' by the ongoing Lex storyline on Smallville, which has consistently been one of the show's best features. But the saying goes 'bad poets borrow, great poets steal'. There was no effort to hide the parallel HH and TPTB were trying to draw between Lex and Anakin, and the effect was to foreshadow Lex's descent into full-blown Darthdom. Bwahahaha.

Yeah, yeah, I know some people won't like the idea of a character's descent ultimately being about wanting to keep his wife around. In both cases - Lex and Anakin - I think I would have preferred to see the decision to go evil based on protecting a child rather than protecting a spouse. Given the current divorce rate, protection of a romantic partner seems somehow insufficient, though it has been a staple of literature since ancient times. In any event, I think that in both Anakin's and Lex's case, their decision to turn to the dark side was less about the spouse's life (as the Force-choking incident in ROTS illustrated) than about each man's desire to control his environment and his unwillingness to exist without that control. In that way, the turn toward darkness makes sense for both characters, given what we already know about them.

I liked the little present delivery subplot, though I admit I was iffy about portraying the 'real' Santa as a drunk (and it was strongly implied that he was the real Santa). I mean, Santa Claus is a Roman Catholic saint, for Pete's sake. But I thought the interaction between Santa and Clark was sweet, and I also liked the friendly dynamic between Clark and Chloe.

I thought all the actors did a good job. Michael Rosenbaum proved again that he is one of the most extraordinary young actors in television. I really hope that he is starting to get his due, what with all these articles I've seen lately about him. I'd love to see a few movies too - with him in the lead, not in bit parts or doing voice overs. If you don't like Lana's character, it's sometimes easy to forget that she is just a character and that Kristin Kreuk is playing her as the char appears to her on the page - until you see KK playing either Isobel or the gal from 'Relic' or tonight's Lana Luthor, and you realize how good she really is. I enjoyed her performance in this episode very much, particularly her death scene.

Special note to Mark Snow: I loved your inclusion of the Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy in the scene where the presents disappeared, even if it didn't involve the Fairy Princess herself, Lana. :lol:

All in all, fab job, Happy Holidays, it's GREAT to be back!!! :D

[PeteM]

Originally posted by Tyrrath
In any event, I think that in both Anakin's and Lex's case, their decision to turn to the dark side was less about the spouse's life (as the Force-choking incident in ROTS illustrated) than about each man's desire to control his environment and his unwillingness to exist without that control. In that way, the turn toward darkness makes sense for both characters, given what we already know about them.



My thoughts exactly.

[Somebody Stop Me]

I liked this episode allot. I never knew how fine Lex's mom was. She didn't look so great in Memoria.

Kudos for all the continuity in this episode. I guess tptb have been reading our post.

The only problem I had with this episode was Allison hair extensions. They looked horrible.

[ImaVirus]

I give it an "A". The fact that Clark sat up on that roof and was talking to Santa, keeping him from jumping. That whole conversation was a huge step for Clark to realize the world really is going need him. "It's going to take a lot more than Santa to revive it."

[sheltiemom]

I thought this was a great episode on a few levels. First I enjoyed seeing the family man Lex. The bed scene was cute-poor Lex looked soo confused, the "what the *** " line was so Lex(I'd love to see the outtakes).
The party at the Kent farm was touching-hearing Jonathan praise Lex and knowing it's what Lex has always wanted to hear,gave me a warm fuzzy feeling.
I know Lex had to turn evil for a reason,but when Lionel denies him the plane, why didn't he go to Sen.Kent?? I'm sure at this point Jonathan would know someone with a helicopter..
The present delievery plot was cute. Chloe telling Clark she needed him to deliver presents, Clarks response "so instead of Fed-Ex you call me" was funny.
I hope this episode is commented on in the Season 5 DVD set when it comes out.

[Emerald Dragen]

I thought this was a good episode. Showed a lot of good stuff about what makes Lex tick. I like how he chose power to control rather than choosing life and accepting what it brings.

The Clark and Chloe stuff was just fluff, but it was fun. I was a bit bothered that they would have Clark miss Christmas with Lana, but it would have been typical of how his life is.

Lex getting shot after his uber ego power trip with the smut master was great. Not that I was cheering or anything, but the contrast of showing his power and then his weakness, good stuff. Plus it was really shocking to see Lex just get taken down by some stranger in an alley.

I like how they played up Lionel and his choice to have Lex put into surgery. I was rooting for him the whole time and I knew it would cause Lex to react that way. I was rooting for Lex to also come out of this darker as it was set up to be some big turning point for him.

It was really sad though to see all that he could have had and how life could have been and to have him give that all up. Though you gotta wonder if this was just a manifestation in his mind because of this ordeal.

This was a very warm episode during Lex's dream sequences, and during the Kent sequences, but very cold in Lex's reality sequences. I loved the contrast there as well.

Seeing Johnathan being senator and congratulating Lex who was just completely surrounded by love was just great stuff.

The whole thing was a great way to pose a true moral question to many people out there in the world of today. The theme was just perfect. This was a very powerful episode!

Technically this was a great show as well, Lex waking up next to Lana was an amazing scene. The confrontation between Lex and his father when Lana was dying was really good too.

Oh and I loved the effect of Clark running down the wall to catch Santa.

Good stuff, very festive in all respects.

[Summers]

It was enjoyable to say the least.

The Good:
-Clark in 7 yrs. with Chloe, and working at the DP. Very cute Uncle Clark moment, and making his nephew "fly" lol.
-Lexana I thought was very cute together
-Lana as a mom was sweet, and she even corrected her son's grammer :lol:
-Santa Clark, and the wall running by Clark was neat
-Lex's dream was pretty neat considering it was way too much The Family Man
-Shelby with reindeer antlers :lol: :)
-the snowing effect and xmas decorations on the sets were amazing beautiful
-seeing Lillian in the window at the very end.

The Bad:
-The parallel of Lex and Anakin Skywalker was okay for a while, but now it's just overkill. I know AlMiles said they are kinda doing an Anakin with Lex since they said it over the summer, but this is just lame. To have power and money to stop his loved ones from dying. Very similar to Anakin to stop Padme's death since he couldn't stop his mother's death.
-predictable plot and ending

Overall very cute Christmas episode.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Loved it but still gave it a B.

[Shiver]

I gave it a B. The Lex stuff was great: we FINALLY get to see him making a clear step towards supervillany! And it's for a reason that makes sense (money and power to keep tragedy from impacting his life), rather than the stupid "I want more money" thing of the Aquaman episode.

But the Santa stuff... ugh. Every time they cut away from Lex dying to Clark Discovering the Meaning of Xmas (or whatever that was), I wanted to puke. It wasn't just that the storyline was substandard, it's that the tone was completely wrong.

You don't balance a major character's Life-changing Decision with a story arc about the existance of Santa Claus, people, you just *don't.* Does the WB demand a certain amount of "family content" in each episode or something? WTF?

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by Summers
It was enjoyable to say the least.

The Good:
-Clark in 7 yrs. with Chloe, and working at the DP. Very cute Uncle Clark moment, and making his nephew "fly" lol.
-Lexana I thought was very cute together
-Lana as a mom was sweet, and she even corrected her son's grammer :lol:
-Santa Clark, and the wall running by Clark was neat
-Lex's dream was pretty neat considering it was way too much The Family Man
-Shelby with reindeer antlers :lol: :)
-the snowing effect and xmas decorations on the sets were amazing beautiful
-seeing Lillian in the window at the very end.

The Bad:
-The parallel of Lex and Anakin Skywalker was okay for a while, but now it's just overkill. I know AlMiles said they are kinda doing an Anakin with Lex since they said it over the summer, but this is just lame. To have power and money to stop his loved ones from dying. Very similar to Anakin to stop Padme's death since he couldn't stop his mother's death.
-predictable plot and ending

Overall very cute Christmas episode.

Same reasons as Mel.

[Somebody Stop Me]

You know I never even thought about the parallels until I came to this board.

[Kryptomaniac]

VERY CUTE. All of it. Even Lex approaching Lionel (AKA old man Potter from "It's A Wonderful Life") to beg for help. MR played it straight and the episode succeeded. It was like a great big Smallville Christmas card to the fans because the photography and sets were so beautiful.

That Santa was great, wasn't he? Best Santa ever. But where was the Baby Jesus? Lex mentioned God, but some reference to Jesus or at least a manger scene somewhere in the background even, would have made the show more real and more appropriate to me IMO. Maybe I'll settle for Lana and Baby Lily as it reminding me of Mary and Baby Jesus. Sweet.

Dorky, ill-fitting glasses on Jonathan were meant to distract us I guess, kind of like putting the antlers on Shelby.

TW smiled more in this show than any other. Not too many people look good in a Santa hat, but he did.

I just don't get it. Clark PO'd at his father Jor-El bringing him back to life and Lex PO'd at his father Lionel for saving his life. Like Santa said, "*****, *****, *****." LOL.

I enjoyed it. Rating 4 out of 5.

[vyperman7]

This episode was A LOT BETTER than I ever thought it could be. On the surface, it just seemed like a pointless holiday filler episode.

But it was pretty damn good. I will even go as far to call it one of S5's best episodes. I have to learn to stop judging a book by its cover.

- MR's performance was awesome. One of the best that he has given in awhile. He can do a good job with both emotional scenes such as when Lana dies, and in scenes where he is supposed to play the villan. He truly is my favorite actor on the show, with John Glover running a close second. Speaking of JG, what a fantastic scene between Lex and Lionel when Lex comes running to him for help.

- Did anyone else love the parallel with S2's Vortex, in the sense that Lex went through the exact same thing with his father? I loved how Lex got to be on other side of the equation so to speak. Loved the line - How dare you play God with my life? Lex did the same damn thing to Lionel.

- Everyone is talking about how bad Allison's hair looked. It wasn't nearly as bad as in Exile. That is the worst I have ever seen an actress's hair be butchered. I honestly didn't think she looked all that bad.

- Love the shout out to the future with having Clark as a reporter. The Chlarker in me was kind of bummed that we did not get to see any type of relationship between the two. It was hinted at with Clark putting his arm around her, but I still would have liked to have seen something.

- The Clark/Santa interaction was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. It actually played into his Superman like persona with him having to sacrifice what he wanted for the greater good. So I can appreciate it from that aspect. It would have been cool if they were trying to play the "real Santa" angle, if Santa had known Clark's name and what he could do. I would have loved to have seen a "how do you know my name/who I am scenario" play out between the two.

- The Lexana was not terrible. The main reason why I hate it however, is because it sets up Lana being the reason for Lex and Clark's split. It is too big of a rivalry to be based on fallout over a woman. That is what makes me sick about it. If they could have it be where Lex uses Lana intentionally to get at Clark, and then dumps her before the fallout happens, that would be one thing. But we all know that won't happen.

- The opening was a little too "Family Man" for me. In fact, this episode ripped off a few themes including ROTS. Should we start refering to Lex as Anakin Luthor from now on? This was probably my only real gripe about the episode. It bummed me out that one of Lex's main reasons for turning to the "dark side" was to ensure Lana's safety.

Overall, it was a damn good episode in my opinion. I just wish that Lana was made out to be such a force in the mythology all the time. This episode all but confirmed that Lana will be the reason for Clark and Lex's split.

I would give it a B+, maybe even an A-. I just hated the ROTS/Anakin like turn for Lex!!

[knight150]

I really loved the ep, i even almost shead a tear for lex. Its just sad that he decided to turn his back on his family just cause of lana. I mean he was a father of 2 and truely knew what it was like to be a GOOD person, and he just walked away from it. Guess Kristen is just that HOTT that u cant live without her.

The santa part kinda threw me for a loop just cause i didnt see what the purpose was. I though he was just some drunk, but he was the real santa, maybe send to guide clark IDK.

Also clark was SUPERMAN in the future was he not? Would have been cool if they let him fly or have to go save someone or somethin. They could have justified it cause it was in the future but OH WELL.

I give it an A

[randie]

I loved it--even cried when Lana was dying and Lionel wouldn't help Lex. I knew it was going to happen, but still--it upset me a little.

Gave it an A for Lex/Lana and Clark/Chloe interaction. Wonderful!

[superhippie2000]

I thought the episode was good. i wonder what the information about mr kent is. maybe we will find out in the 100th episode. they could have had it just about LEX without all the clark saving santa stuff. i am wondering why would lexs mother show him the future where lana dies if she wants him to see how hapy he is. why didnt she show him like the year before or something. the lex and lionel scenes were great. so if there is no lex and lana does that mean no little Alex and baby Lilly. Now there little souls will fly around for eternity without a human to suck on to. and i guess for all the people who wanted to see lana dead there u go. there is going to be alot of things about how chloe cant die and lionel wont die in the future but i think that if they do die its because Lex has something to do with it.


Originally posted by knight150

The santa part kinda threw me for a loop just cause i didnt see what the purpose was. I though he was just some drunk, but he was the real santa, maybe send to guide clark IDK.

Also clark was SUPERMAN in the future was he not? Would have been cool if they let him fly or have to go save someone or somethin. They could have justified it cause it was in the future but OH WELL.

I give it an A

I dont really get that whole santa thing either. the show didnt really need it. it did great with the whole lex story line. Maybe clark will lend out a small part of his fortress of solitude to santa so he can make toys. santa had a fortress of solitude in South Park so why not smallville.

they didnt show clark fly in the future because it was Lexs dream and niether him or his dead mother would have known clark would fly or something. plus lex doesnt find out that he is superman or atleast has powers for a while until after clark becomes superman. i dont know. something like that.

[SmvilleTeacher]

I really liked it. I enjoyed the Lexana even though the idea of it usually turns my stomach. But to see Lex happy and normal and Lana so content and in love w/Lex was actually good to see. And yet at the end, it confirmed that Lex will ultimately make choices to become evil Lex Luthor. No matter how much we want to wish otherwise, it is coming. It is interesting though that Lex's character continues to be written as the victim. Definitely parrallel to the misunderstood Darth Vadar in ep 4-6 of SW; Lex is written in SV to explain his fall to evil as the victim as well.

The side story w/ Clark & Chloe was cute and nice for Christmas. I know some will appreciate it as it is the season while others will berate it and say 'they never needed a Christmas ep before, why start now?' Still, I give the entire episode 2 thumbs up. I was just happy to get another new episode. Now on to the long holiday hiatus. Though I am looking forward to seeing Arrival again next week since I haven't seen it since it aired. Merry Christmas everyone!

[DMA2Superman]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Could it be anymore of a SW rip off? I have not seen the episode yet, but when I read that Lex decides to become evil to keep Lana from dying, it made me sick. The lamest excuse they ever could have come up with. Lex becomes evil because it is his nature and ultimately who he is. LANA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. This pretty much guarantees that Clark and Lex will have their falling out because of Lana as well.

Why the hell do they have to make Lana such an important character? She is Clark's love interest plain and simple. Not some major force in the mythology...

Man that pisses me off.

I think though that this episode explained to us why Lex is who he is. I am not sure about it being just "his nature" to be bad, something had to snap. He despises his Father and has tried to not be him. Now, he has failed in oh so many ways, however he has for the most part been a great friend. He has fought for years to earn the respect of JKent and now he is willing to make up things to win the Senate seat. He figures his outcome is bleak anyway and leads to pain, but he is poor and has no one this way. With money you can buy anything, including the lives of those you love.

AS for Lana I will agree with you, I am tired of that girl being an important part. How about the comment, "I know you overspend because you want the best for us. That's one of the reasons I love you so much." OK, no woman in the world has ever even though about placing those words together in a sentence much less spoke them. My Wife has a few other choice phrases I could give you (on a more adult language site) when I pverspend. That for me was too much. No one has to budget every month and loves anyone for spending more than they have. Lana has become the dream girl to all male DNA in SV and it really is getting on my nerves. She has done nothing to deserve this. She is pretty so she is a focal point, Well, from a guy's point of view, I would no doubt take Chloe, she is a true spark and has loads of personality. She is hot, even hotter when you get to know her. Lana to me makes the old addage law "No matter how hot she is somebody somewhere is tired of putting up with her."

[cayayofm]

I gave it a B.
Overall was a good episode, I think it was a nice change of pace and interesting seeing another side of Lex, also we got to see great acting for MR. I think is so a great actor, he can be very versatile and actually convice you wether he is playing a good or evil man. I never has been a fan of Laxana, but I think that this episode succeded well in the relationship, they look great togethger. I liked that the episode had a dark undertone beneath the happy and shinny surface.

There were a few things that I did not liked. The Santa plot, chessy, chiché, I mean how many times can we see the 'christmas spirit is dead', and plain bad, I felt like it had no place and only was there to give Clark something to do. The timeline was way off, explain me how in one night, you get shot, you are trasfered to Metropolis, you get an operation and in the same night you are already walking? God that is a process that would take days, even more than a week. I don't exactly loved the idea that the motivation was saving Lana.

[livn_life]

I give the episode a B-. Rosenbaum, as usual, did an excellent job. KK did a fine job too, but then again, unlike some of the Lana-haters here, I've always liked the character.

As for the bad, the episode was a little too Anakin Skywalker for me. It was so much the rip off of the third enstallment of the SW sage, but at least it gave another reason for Lex's lust for power other than just material gain. He seeks to protect himself from the world. Love keeps betraying him. His mother dies. His father views him as just an heir/pawn (no love - just manipulation). His doctor wife turns out to be a spy. In the "future" even his beloved new wife dies on him. Being thrust into that scenario Lex can't see that he will have 7 wonderful years with Lana (he hasn't already experienced it as real) and will have a lifetime of good times with his children. I can understand it. Not except it, but I can understand it. But as always, Lex is destined to be scum of the earth. Evil has always been his future. Too bad.

Other than that, it was a good episode. I liked the long hair of future Chloe. I hope they give her that hair cut now, instead of some of the atrocities that they've been torturing her with lately. :)

[Zooks]

Lex gave up his chances of being happy when he chose power. He knows it. He'd rather have security of power than the love of Lana. Love is temporary. Power can be everlasting.

[superhippie2000]

well im not sure about the whole lex getting shot and waking up thing in one night. i think lex could have gotten shot around 6 or 7 at night since it gets dark early this time of year. someone probably found him a few minutes later after the gun went off and was at the hosptial by 8. this is probably when clark and lana were setting up for the party. lex was probably there for a hour when lionel showed up so around 9. this is probably when clark was delivering the gifts. since lionel is rich and stuff they can fly lex fast and get there probably in 15 minutes. around 10 is when clark probably saw drunk santa. then lex would have gotten into surgery right away and it would take an hour so maybe 1015 1030 he was done. around 1045 is when the drunk santa went to see chloe. lex was probably out of it for a couple of hours so atleast till 12 1230. this is probably around the same time they had the party at the kents cause those can go on till 2 am. when lexs mom was done showing him what life could have been like it was more of like she put his soul back into his body so he woke. he probably didnt get right up so maybe around 130 is when he got out of bed and it ended. i dont think he decided to turn bad because he wanted to save lana. i saw it more as in he is fed up with people he loves dying and that he cant do anything about anything anymore and figures atleast if he was evil he would be able to have some control over his life and doesnt care about what happens to anyone anymore. this would also be good motivation to kill lionel. cause lionel is selfish and will only help lex so lex wouldnt be a cripple and if lex did do good then lionel wouldnt help him at all. so lex should just wind up killing lionel cause he realizes thats the only way he will have the power over himself.

[cayayofm]

Originally posted by superhippie2000
well im not sure about the whole lex getting shot and waking up thing in one night. i think lex could have gotten shot around 6 or 7 at night since it gets dark early this time of year. someone probably found him a few minutes later after the gun went off and was at the hosptial by 8. this is probably when clark and lana were setting up for the party. lex was probably there for a hour when lionel showed up so around 9. this is probably when clark was delivering the gifts. since lionel is rich and stuff they can fly lex fast and get there probably in 15 minutes. around 10 is when clark probably saw drunk santa. then lex would have gotten into surgery right away and it would take an hour so maybe 1015 1030 he was done. around 1045 is when the drunk santa went to see chloe. lex was probably out of it for a couple of hours so atleast till 12 1230. this is probably around the same time they had the party at the kents cause those can go on till 2 am. when lexs mom was done showing him what life could have been like it was more of like she put his soul back into his body so he woke. he probably didnt get right up so maybe around 130 is when he got out of bed and it ended. i dont think he decided to turn bad because he wanted to save lana. i saw it more as in he is fed up with people he loves dying and that he cant do anything about anything anymore and figures atleast if he was evil he would be able to have some control over his life and doesnt care about what happens to anyone anymore. this would also be good motivation to kill lionel. cause lionel is selfish and will only help lex so lex wouldnt be a cripple and if lex did do good then lionel wouldnt help him at all. so lex should just wind up killing lionel cause he realizes thats the only way he will have the power over himself.

LOL, you don't think you are streching thins a little bit?...lol
However, an operation can take hours, then he would had not waked up until the next moring, and he would had not be able to walk for atleast 4 or 5 days. Well I don't really think that it was for Lana completly, like you said I think that he was just trying to get control over his life, Having the power will give him the oportunity to do whatever he wants and have control over his life and choices.

[mario masta]

Lexmas was actually a lot better than I thought it would be. Awesome performances by both MR and JG. I was almost in tears when Lex (in his "dream") begged his father to help save Lana's life. For the first time in any episode, I almost wanted to punch Lionel in the face; that's how much I got into it. :\

As for Santa Claus, I really liked the scene between Clark and him on the roof, and I was also surprised by how they managed to fit in a CGI scene in the episode too, which I wasn't excpecting at all. :lol:

And although I liked that part with Santa, I think they could have done without him being the "real" one. That was kind of lame. :rolleyes:

Overall, a great way to end the first third of the season, and a great holiday episode too. B

[Liriel]

How far is Granville from Smallville? The place looked big enough to have it's own hospital, but he was taken to the Smallville Medical Center.

[Crazy4Smallville]

Crazy4Smallville’s Weekly Review

Season 5
Episode 9
"Lexmas”

This was one of the most enjoyable episodes to date. I don’t think there were many moments that I didn’t enjoy.

We have seen the last of the Lex Luthor that we had all come to know, love and have compassion for. He died tonight, along with his dream for Lana, as the real evil genius mastermind survived. Alexander now reigns supreme in Lex Luthor. This is the Lex Luthor that I’ve been waiting for. I’ve seen a glimpse of him every now and again, but we got to see his last ride tonight. Who’d a thought the dream of Lana would be the downfall of Lex Luthor? I’m telling you – it’s the Kryptonic mutant effect she has on everyone. Lex is just one of her many victims.

So, Lex was having second thoughts about spreading the dirt on Jonathan Kent? I’m surprised he even hesitated. I doubt we’ll see anymore struggles like that in the future.

Lex getting shocked surprised me. I didn’t see it coming. I’m sure I stopped breathing; waiting to see if it had been a dream, but that revelation never came. I knew he wouldn’t die – let’s face it… we know he’s in the future with Superman, but in a way he did. The good side of him had his last ride… before he disappeared into the sunset.

I loved how they used the blue/evil light in comparison to the warm gold/good light. I liked seeing Lex in the good light for a change, but not as much as I loved seeing that maniacal stare at the end. Rosenbaum plays evil really well. He’s a great actor. He did a good job playing the good, confused, loving, doting husband of Lana. Listen very carefully, because I will probably only say this once – I enjoyed Lana in this episode. Lexana didn’t gross me out. Lana actually looked happy, acted happy, and was beautiful and sensitive. Now, if she’d only act like that ALL the time. Maybe Kristin should work more with Michael, because they had great chemistry together.

I loved the whole Lex as dad, husband, friend and humanitarian. I thought they were stretching it a bit at the end, but that is what convinced me that this was his dream – not a real Christmas future experience.

I loved how they had Chloe and Clark together – but come on… this is Lex’s dream. They could have had them married. Mythos didn’t matter at this point. That would have made the episode perfect. It seemed as though they were married, though they never come out and said it. Then, when Clark was talking to Lex on the porch, he said something to the effect about maybe never being ready to settle down. I assumed that was him implying that he wasn’t married.

I don’t think I liked Chloe in long hair. It just didn’t suit her. But, I loved how Lex made her into a novelist, not just a journalist. I liked how Lex made Clark into a full fledge reporter. I guess everyone can see that one coming, huh?

I thought Jonathan (as Senator) looked handsome. He was tall, strong and dignified. I knew the words that were coming when he was giving Lex the humanitarian award. I knew he was going to say that he was proud of him like his own son. I could have almost quoted it, as he said it. I knew this was one of Lex’s most desired dreams. To be loved by Lana, have a family (Alexander and Lily), be normal, have a budget, able to celebrate Christmas, be best friends with Clark, admired by Chloe, and accepted and respected by the Kent’s. This is everything the old Lex has desired. I believe those dreamed died, along with his dream Lana.

Lex Luthor has now accepted his destiny… every evil inch of it.

Now, onto Clark, Chloe & Lana –

I loved how Clark was willing to give up his time with Lana to help Chloe. He didn’t ask what first – he sped to her aide and then asked. I LOVED how he played Santa. I thought that was very funny. Now, I can tell all the little kids I know that Santa is really a Kryptonian. That’s how he can do so much in so little of time. It’s really him that flies, not the reindeer. LOL! I liked the “It’s a Wonderful Life” theme this show had.

I didn’t fail to notice the comment Clark made to Lana when she put the (gingerbread guy?) on top of the tree. He is still lost into his obsession with her being ‘perfect’.

Chloe doesn’t spend Christmas with her dad, her uncle or her cousin, Lois? Is she really that alone? Yet, she was selfless, willing to spend her time doing something for someone else. Yes, she was also doing it to further her career, but why not? It’s the only thing she has. Lana has Clark, Lois has her dad and Chloe is all alone. But, maybe she’s not as alone as we all think. During the Christmas party at the Kent’s I noticed something. Maybe it was a mistake, or maybe not. But, Lana spent her time catering, while Chloe and Clark spent their time huddled in the corner together, regaling the evening. Yes, I know they had to talk about Claus – but that could have waited for another time or done in another setting. Maybe it’s just the Chlarker in me grasping at any straw – but I found it interesting. Also, why was Lana wearing a black sleeveless shirt on Christmas Eve – when it is clearly freezing outside? I found that odd. Black usually insinuates being evil, having the desire to be invisible or having a cold heart. They could have at least put her in a red or green – make her more cheerful – but black?

Lex & Lionel – Boy, oh boy have the gloves come off. Lionel has finally got what he’s always wanted – a son of his own making. Yet, Lionel will also have to deal with the consequences of having a son of his own making. I have a feeling that papa Luthor won’t be around much longer. I believe Lex is going to retaliate against Lionel. Not just for making a life threatening decision to operate on Lex because he couldn’t deal with having a crippled son, but for the way that Lex portrayed Lionel in his dream. Lex will hold Lionel responsible for the death of his dream – in essence for the death of Lana in his life… for the death of everything that he had desired. Lionel has let loose a raging lion. That’s been his desire all this time, but its also been his biggest mistake.

This has been one of the best episodes of Smallville. The writers finally gave us some of the things we’ve always wanted, but knew we could never have. Yet – it was a good dream to have. I suppose now its time to get out of dreamland and back into Smallville reality – and watch Clark become the Superman he’s supposed to be and enjoy watching Lex as he becomes the evil genius mastermind he’s supposed to be.

I look forward to it.

This has been Crazy4Smallville’s weekly review. Till Next Time!

[superhippie2000]

Originally posted by cayayofm
LOL, you don't think you are streching thins a little bit?...lol
However, an operation can take hours, then he would had not waked up until the next moring, and he would had not be able to walk for atleast 4 or 5 days. Well I don't really think that it was for Lana completly, like you said I think that he was just trying to get control over his life, Having the power will give him the oportunity to do whatever he wants and have control over his life and choices.

ya but lionel luthor is so rich he can afford doctors that can do surgery faster then the Flash. and its tv so they kind of have to bunch things up. if it was like lost and when sawyer got shot it would have taken 5 or 6 days from when he past out. o ya i just thought of something that maybe lex is able to heal faster since he has a high white blood cell count.

[F-Stop Blues]

I couldnt believe that Lana mentioned Nell. That might have been the most shocking thing I've heard on the show since the Pete mention in Mortal.

Overall I liked this ep alot. It was a nice change of pace after the events of Splinter and Solitude. Also it gave you a slight cliffy for the second half of the season. That was a main gripe last year with Scare. I'm just amazed at how good this season has been. I dont even care about the ratings, Im just glad that tptb are putting out truly entertaining shows.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by vyperman7

This episode all but confirmed that Lana will be the reason for Clark and Lex's split.



Now, now Ryan there you go again judging a book by it's cover, lol.

We don't know that yet. I'm sure that it will be a combination of many things.

[Summers]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I couldnt believe that Lana mentioned Nell. .

I know my eyes went :eek:. They also used the same doctor from S3 in this episode as well.

Funny thing since AlMiles said this summer is no reason ever mention Nell again lol (paraphased).


Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
Now, now Ryan there you go again judging a book by it's cover, lol.

We don't know that yet. I'm sure that it will be a combination of many things.

I agree. I think Lana will just be a variable out of many variables going on.

[sdcheesehead]

Crazy4Smallville - I think you said it all for me. I really enjoyed watching this episode, and look forward to the last half of S5, where we will get to see MR shine, as the evil Lex Luther, and Clark fitting more into his role as Superman. I also agree that Lionel's existence is limited, and IMO will be one of the characters leaving in the 100th episode. I was also wondering what kindof information that character is going to make up or find on JK (besides revealing CK's orgins &/or abilities). I gave this episode an A.

[SmalliesMatt]

The whole Lex/Anakin thing is cool for me..... cauz i kinda hate SW.lol. so it shouldnt bother me when i watch ;)

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by Summers

I agree. I think Lana will just be a variable out of many variables going on.

OK will the real Summers please stand up. Are you sure your feeling OK? We finally agree on something.


Originally posted by SmalliesMatt
The whole Lex/Anakin thing is cool for me..... cauz i kinda hate SW.lol. so it shouldnt bother me when i watch ;)

Matt your gonna love it. It was a great episdoe and I didn't even think of the parallels while I was watching. I was thinking more of "It's a Wonderful Life".

[Summers]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
OK will the real Summers please stand up. Are you sure your feeling OK? We finally agree on something.


I agree it is rare, but it's just common sense logic :lol:. However, I can see why some would preceived Lana will be the reason of it.

[clark25]

I loved this episode it helped me get
into the christmass spirit and to I thought
Micheal Rosenbaumb done a excenlent
job at preforming in this episode.And to
I noticed there were some clues pointing
toward the big 100th epy.Anywho it was
neat getting too see Clark being promoted
to a reporter position at the planet in
lex's future dream.And to I noticed how
they had Clark's hair during the dream
sequence it was more Suprerman like
and to.I laughed when Clark told that
kid that he was the new and improved
Santa Clauss.Anywho great episode
defently on of this seasons many many
best

[AshyLarry]

Originally posted by PeteM
Watch the episode. It wasn't really about Lana. You could have put somebody else as Lex's dream wife and the result would have been the same.

What Lex learned from his Scrooge visions was that he couldn't be happy without Power and Money. Love is temporary and leads to pain because everybody he has ever loved dies. Whereas, Power leads to happiness that can be protected and made to last.

I liked the episode.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[mario masta]

When did they mention Nell? I must have missed it. :eek:

[Liriel]

Originally posted by mario masta
When did they mention Nell? I must have missed it. :eek:

At the beginning when Clark and Lana were decorating the tree. Lana said usually Christmas was just her and Nell and a plastic tree and lots of tinsel and thanked Clark for saving her from a "fake Christmas."

[superman79]

I loved this ep especially with Clark doing a very Superman thing and helping Santa out, could this be a jump start to his future? And MR was great as Good Lex. Season 5 is just one big fun ride so far and I can't wait for more!

[Crazy4Smallville]

I think most people really enjoyed this episode. It was fun, flighty and fanciful. I loved the decorations. It put me into the Christmas mood. I think it's holiday message was better than most of the one's on t.v. right now.

Thanks,
T.L. Gray
Author of The Necromancers Series

http://www.thenecromancers.com
http://www.tlgray.blogspot.com

[Summers]

Originally posted by superman79
I loved this ep especially with Clark doing a very Superman thing and helping Santa out, could this be a jump start to his future?

I doubt it. He was very un-Superman like about not helping needy kids. He had to guilt-tripped into helping them. That is one of the things I didn't like. He wanted to be with Lana, instead of helping needy kids. That was just pathetic.

[MyOwnSuperhero]

I really loved this episode. Compared to Thirst (as a light, holiday themed episode), they got it right this time when last time the got it oh so wrong.

I love MR's work in this. He got to show such a wide range of emotion, in situations that Lex's character never really gets to be a part of - it was impressive acting. KK (for once) not only didn't bug me, but actually got me caring about her character! That's pretty much a first, and I hope they keep it up. Really, the acting was all well done, as was the excellent direction. The use of lighting to differentiate the dream from reality, to indicate they emotions bubbling beneath the surface in Lex, it was all excellently done.

My problem was in the writing. Really, I think it was that I had overanalyzed it going in, and built it up to be more significant than it was, or maybe done differently than it was. Once Lana started having complications, I cringed. I know that Lex needs a reason to leave this perfect life behind, but can't it be something else? Lana's death and Lionel's speech about having the means to save her - it was too convenient. Lex had something very good, yes, but then, for all intents and purposes, he was taught that true happiness in the short term isn't worth the long term pain. I mean, I understand it, and thought that with what they did they did great, but I might have done it differently. I don't know.

Frankly, if this is the last of Lexana, I'll be truly mad, because they'll have thrown away a great opportunity with these characters.

[aqua]

Originally posted by Summers
I doubt it. He was very un-Superman like about not helping needy kids. He had to guilt-tripped into helping them. That is one of the things I didn't like. He wanted to be with Lana, instead of helping needy kids. That was just pathetic.

I think he was just annoyed with Chloe, who in my eyes, was really disappointing. She ripped Clark out of his Christmas with his love for her job?

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by MyOwnSuperhero
I really loved this episode. Compared to Thirst (as a light, holiday themed episode), they got it right this time when last time the got it oh so wrong.

I love MR's work in this. He got to show such a wide range of emotion, in situations that Lex's character never really gets to be a part of - it was impressive acting. KK (for once) not only didn't bug me, but actually got me caring about her character! That's pretty much a first, and I hope they keep it up. Really, the acting was all well done, as was the excellent direction. The use of lighting to differentiate the dream from reality, to indicate they emotions bubbling beneath the surface in Lex, it was all excellently done.

My problem was in the writing. Really, I think it was that I had overanalyzed it going in, and built it up to be more significant than it was, or maybe done differently than it was. Once Lana started having complications, I cringed. I know that Lex needs a reason to leave this perfect life behind, but can't it be something else? Lana's death and Lionel's speech about having the means to save her - it was too convenient. Lex had something very good, yes, but then, for all intents and purposes, he was taught that true happiness in the short term isn't worth the long term pain. I mean, I understand it, and thought that with what they did they did great, but I might have done it differently. I don't know.

Frankly, if this is the last of Lexana, I'll be truly mad, because they'll have thrown away a great opportunity with these characters.
I completely agree about MR's talent. I couldn't even imagine a happy Lex until MR pulled it off. It was amusing and heartwarming.

I have a different take on the Lana death scenario. Since I think this was Lex's dream, it's exactly what he would imagine. All the women who ever loved him have died, so of course, Lana's going to die, too. It's part of his psychology. So I don't see it as trite in this instance.

I don't think they're through w/ Lexana. If what Al and Miles have said on the commentaries is true. this is just the beginning. ;)

Oops, forgot to mention that I really loved this episode -- which is the point of this thread. :lol: I didn't have very high expectations. I thought we were in for another campy seasonal offering, like Thirst. But they managed to do something solid. It was good. I think I'll go watch it again... :cool:

[JerryKing]

While it was not the worst entry so far - the proud holders of that ignominy are, ex aequo, "the witches" and "the vampires" - it was beyond doubt the dullest and most pointless episode in the entire series.

It did have the worst title of them all, however, a title of the kind so wretchedly bad that it is usually preceded by the words "Steven Seagal and Jean Claude van Damme in".

[superman79]

I really love when shows do the alternate future thing, it's right out of DC comics. Heck, they have had so many alternate timelines they had to start from scratch. But Clark's willingness to sacrafice his time with Lana for others was great. In Arrival Clark opted for Lana but when confronted with a similar choice he chose to help the less fortunate. Leaps and Bounds, folks!

[Drew]

This was probably the episode I dredded watching the most. The spoiler page and description made this look like it was going to be really lame and a filler Xmas episode.

How wrong I was. This was one of the best episodes of the season storywise, it was a Lex episode (those are few and far between), and it played into Lex's character development. I was also really impressed on the acting in this episode.

I felt kinda dumb when I realized the Chloe and Clark subplot was not occuring in Lex's head.

[j03superbat]

Lex-mas

I cringed through the first ten minutes of this episode. First of all, the writers' interpretation of underworld criminals is laughable. Secondly, while Smallville started off as a family show, something about the Christmas theme felt off. Like Christmas was being forced onto the show. The Christmas music, the Christmas overtones... too much Christmas!

But I digress. Michael Rosenbaum did an awesome job proving who's the best actor on this show. I think the reason he did such a good job was that he was finally in his environment. MR does an admirable job when he's playing the torn, to-be-evil-one-day, flawed character but I honestly don't put him in as high regard as other folks do. He's Lex Luthor, but he's Smallville's Lex Luthor.

With this episode, he gets to play light-hearted, which he's good at. Watching him handle the situation of waking up next to Lana and with a kid and trying to put the child safety seat in the car... all gold. His expression when he said, "We have a budget???" was priceless and - in my opinion - just plain more enjoyable to watch than when he's EvilLex.

Also, "Lexmas" proved my long-running theory that Allison Mack looks waaaaaaay better with LONG hair (despite the very noticeable extensions).

The subplot with Clark was entertaining. Finally, Clark does something Superman would do (I could have done without the whining, though). I wasn't thrilled with the Santa Claus plot though. His whole speech about losing the spirit of Christmas was cheesy and - especially when he still have two weeks until Christmas - premature. Clark's handling of the situation though - trying to talk him out of jumping off the roof - was pure Superman.

I'm not too happy that he turned out to be the REAL Santa Claus, but then I thought - why not? Some folks threw a hissy fit when magic - genuine magic - was introduced on Smallville, but the fact is that magic exists in the DCU. Several DC superheroes have origins steeped in the mystical and magical. To say magic isn't real on the show is to say these heroes won't one day exist. Therefore, Santa can exist.

Lilly Luthor wasn't a high point for me. She just seemed like a cliche to me.

And the Lexana? ... Yuck!

Overall B-
- If it hadn't been for the redeeming elements of the show (Clark helping out little kids; MR's performance), this episode would have been much worse. Not that it was bad per se, but it had moments that made me cringe.

[smallville_fetish]

Loved it. It was worth the 2 weeks wait and all the shippers got their share, wow that is truely amazing even if I esp didn't enjoy the Lexana ship. But overal, this episode was a real xmas treat.

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Could it be anymore of a SW rip off? I have not seen the episode yet, but when I read that Lex decides to become evil to keep Lana from dying, it made me sick. The lamest excuse they ever could have come up with. Lex becomes evil because it is his nature and ultimately who he is. LANA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. This pretty much guarantees that Clark and Lex will have their falling out because of Lana as well.

Why the hell do they have to make Lana such an important character? She is Clark's love interest plain and simple. Not some major force in the mythology...

Man that pisses me off.


Because originally Almiles wanted the show to be called "Everybody Loves Lana"

Lana :*putting the Angel on the Christmas tree* "she's perfect"
Clark : "yes she is"
Me : *running for the toilet to puke*:rolleyes:

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
Because originally Almiles wanted the show to be called "Everybody Loves Lana"

Lana :*putting the Angel on the Christmas tree* "she's perfect"
Clark : "yes she is"
Me : *running for the toilet to puke*:rolleyes:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

That is hilarious! It can't be that bad can it?

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

That is hilarious! It can't be that bad can it?

OK, I didn't really run to the toilet to puke. The idea that Lana was thee reason for Lex's turn to the darkside or thee reason for Clark & Lex's friendship ending irritates me. She can be a part of the reasons why things turn out the way they do as long as she isn't the main or only reason IMHO. I just agree with the others who post that Lana's main part of the mythology is that she is Clark's first sweetheart, nothing more important then that. But this is Almiles intrepetation of the mythology so they are going to take liberties with their storytelling. I'm along for the ride even if I get motionsickness from time to time...opps *me running to the toilet again to puke*:rotfl:

[Somebody Stop Me]

I think there's a little more than a dream that has made Lex become evil. He's been going down that path for years now. What I got out of the show the other night is that Lex thought the only way to be happy was to be rich and powerful.

It could have been "any" woman in a middle class enviorment. But seeing that you have a person already on contract that's why they use her.

BTW here is a pic of Lana in the comics 40 years ago and she was crying back then too.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4716/lana30fl.jpg

[spideyfan]

very original episode

the whole episode was very well done!

[kryptonitte]

I also dreaded seeing this one with the name and all but overall I gave it a B plus..and it is mainly the same reasons as a lot have said on here. MR 's performance was great and he is my favorite anyway on the show so to have him more of a focus in this episode made it a great one for me. I understand how Lana being the main reason for the downfall is annoying since I'm not a big Lana fan anyway but I feel it is more than that. It is the slow progression of Lex's character that I feel does make him choose his power over a bit of time of happiness. See I think in his mind if he won over Lana without money he feels that his money and power will also win her over and she will still be here later. It was showing that Lex can't handle reality in the sense that we all loose loved ones whether we want to or not and since he can't handle his emotions he feels that the only thing that will truely stay consitent and true is his money and power. For me it is the truely spolied brat who was never taught how to deal with anything way. It also makes me think yeah more evil Lex now...Lionel was far the best evil but I think Lex can now take over from here :) and it was good to see Clark doing good things like future Superman since we need more of that and glad that they are using Chloe to guide him in a sense as well. The only true bad thing is now we have to wait weeks for a new one uurrghh

[Yilkay]

I liked it.
It was a real xmasy thing 2 do with the scrooge/Lex theme.
Not very original but a very xmasy thing like in most series on tv this time of year.The acting was really good.
liked it I give it a B.
Not happy that its gonna be off the air again!
So can some one email me or write back here 2 tell me when it will be back on and was last episode till when thanks!
Is it next year?

[Somebody Stop Me]

megalomania

Main Entry: meg·a·lo·ma·nia
Pronunciation: "me-g&-lO-'mA-nE-&, -ny&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
1 : a mania for great or grandiose performance
2 : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by infantile feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur
- meg·a·lo·ma·ni·ac /-'mA-nE-"ak/ adjective or noun
- meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a·cal /-m&-'nI-&-k&l/ also meg·a·lo·man·ic /-'ma-nik/ adjective
- meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a·cal·ly /-m&-'nI-&-k(&-)lE/ adverb

This is what Lex suffers from.

[watcher4]

I enjoyed watching the episode, in the context of it being a Christmas episode. However, I thought there was potential for it to be even better. That is why I gave it a B.

[Jlvsclrk]

I gave it a B and then read all the comments and wondered why I wasn't moved to give it an A. Because I agree about the acting. I LOVED how the real reason Lex made the decision he did wasn't to "save Lana" but because he decided that its better to have power than love. He'll still go after Lana, but he'll never stake his whole future on it. He will manipulate and lie and abuse his power to get what he thinks he wants, but will untimately only succeed in driving away what he really needs.

So what was off? Maybe I was in a bad mood, but the music really bugged me in this epi, especially in the Clark scenes. For me, things like that can really breack the spell. I kept thinking, oh, they should be playing this song now. Strange. Maybe it'll be better when I watch again.

[Tomsgurl88]

I don't know, there's still no doubt in my mind that if Lana didn't die, Lex would of chose the good path.

[Sweetie]

I think that Lex is old enough to make his own choice:go on one side or the other.Nobody really triggered that,he's the only one responsable for what he wants to do with his destiny.

[Somebody Stop Me]

I remembering him saying "Everyone I ever loved, Julian, my mom and now Lana. And Sweetie your right he made the choice.

[Supersonic]

I gave it an A - because Chloe and Clark made such a sweet couple. Lex as a humble father was real interesting too, and I loved how MB was portrayed as flowing hair again, that really made my day.

And Lex saying that he wanted dirt on Johnathan Kent... Ooooo... Tension People!

If Clark finds out, Lex better watch out, or his luxury cars will be stacked on top of each other just like the pilot =D

[hippiechic]

Lex would've definitely chosen the life with Lana if she hadn't of died because when he was on the Kent's porch talking to his mother he told her that this was the life he wanted and wanted to know what he needed to do to keep it.

Oh I forgot to vote! LOL I gave it an A because MR was incredible as usual!! woohoo!! Cried like a baby more than once and laughed through the rest. The only thing I didn't like was when Santa said all ppl do is take, take, take, and *****, *****, ***** after all..he IS supposed to be SAINT Nick...lol

[Yilkay]

lex loves lana he has 4 sure got a thing 4 her but he,s trying 2 keep it a secret.
But i could never see them getting it on unless it was a dream or they were under the influwence of something like(meteore rocks)!
:)
lex,s true feelings 4 lana and how he would want itto be all came out in the Lexmas episode.
:eek:

they haven,t had any meteore rock head in smallville?:eek:

[jaime,oburg]

I think we all had our doubts about this episode when we heard the title Lexmas. But as the saying goes you can't judge a book by it's..... name.:rolleyes:

[Annonie]

I thought it gave a terrific reason behind why Lex became evil. I mean he's always wanted EVERYTHING. But i still think Lana marrying him was kinda cliche, I mean it would have made more sense if he truly found true love with someone else. I mean how many guys can honestly fall in love with Lana, this is starting to get a bit ridiculous. But thats just my feeling.

Overall: B

[Lullaby]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Why the hell do they have to make Lana such an important character? She is Clark's love interest plain and simple. Not some major force in the mythology...

Man that pisses me off.

Been saying that for years...............

I gave it a an A/B
It was great to have a new insight into Lex's future. The Santa plot downgraded it a bit.

[F-Stop Blues]

It was an enjoyable ep imo, more so than I thought it would be. They left the future of the characters fairly vague which I guess was there intention. Overall good enjoyable ep and it gave good insight into Lex which is always good.

[Somebody Stop Me]

I loved Lexmas and I didn't mind the Santa plot at all. I thought it was quite charming.

[I am the Superman]

I liked the episode alot, finally a hit of religion in the show with santa clause. I didnt like lex's choice, its obvious that was the life he wanted and all he would of had to do was not have the 2nd child. Case closed lana wont die and they can live happily ever after. Not that i want him and lana together because clark and her are perfect for each other.

[greengoose]

I have not seen this episode yet, and since I live in Germany I will just wait for the DVD. However from what I read, it sounds like a some sort of "Christmas Carol" ripoff. Would not be the first time a tv show did this. Only this time, if Lex was Ebenezer Scrooge, he would go over to the Cratchet house, take Tiny Tim's crutches, and hit Bob Cratchet over the head with one just before firing him.

But seriously, this was not a "this is your future Lex" dream, this was a manifistation of Lex's internal struggle with his "good" self. Much like his struggle with the "evil" side of himself personified when he was stranded on a deserted island, it was not real. Not wanting to make a comparison, but it was very similar to the decision Anakin Skywalker made in SW III. With ultimate power, he can prevent the death of everyone he cares about. Too bad this will only lead to more mayhem and destruction.

[greggbray]

I really can't stand the new star wars films. This was a rif on the familiar theme (SW didn't invent it), and so be it. It worked. I didn't even mind Clark helping Santa out. It was very much like the Superman/Santa comics I used to buy as a kid. Good stuff. A.

[Sider]

i thought it was excellent, although its a bit out of festive season :P, i loved the bit when you saw lex struggle to fit the child seat then bang his head on the car, don't know whether that was intentional or not. i'll give it an A

[pearce]

oh my god im shocked that ppl liked lexmas, from all five seasons this is so painfull to watch what were the creators thinking!?! It starts of so well with Lex getting shot....wow this is gunna be good im thinkin!! But no, Lex starts dreaming about the perfect life with Lana for a wife and a little kiddy and...wait oh yes another one on the way! how perfect, How can they do this to Lex Luthor... one of the great villains of all time fitting a bloody kiddy car seat in and gay ass dialog worthy only of dawsons creak!!! It would be like watching Darth Vada picking up luke and leia from the nursery!! Then....Santa....the real boozed up deal, what the **** is that about?! i could go on for hours about it! however at the end they somehow bring it back and it ends how it started, great. How did they do that? oh yeah Lex was evil again!!!! The best scene it for me however was Lionel's cold blooded refusal to save lanas life....this is the kind of stuff i wanna c from the Luthors!

[Patch]

Totally agree with pearce! This was by far the most gay ass episode ever! I nearly choked on my own vomit at least 3 times. 1st time Lex having trouble with the baby seat.
2nd time Jonathan awarding Lex a humanitarian award.
3rd time Santa being in it.

This was truly a lame episode however it started and ended superbly! Lets see more of Lex being evil...... Overall though this season has been great. I just really hated certain aspects of this episode.

Stay Super Bros n Sisters!

[supergirl_1095]

I gave this episode what I think it should of gotten, It was wonderful, would of been a A, but the poor Lana death that wasn't real brought it down to a B in my book.

[Tom's Chick]

Loooved it! It was kinda "refreshing" to have an episode "stray away" from the general storyline in a way. I loved how we saw what Lex's future could be like if he wasn't the way he is.

[Mrs Kent]

Reminded me of the film 'Christmas Carol', I liked it though.

[Superfan1978]

I just wanted to make note that I thought Lexmas was brilliant and really one of the best episodes of the entire series. I rewatched it tonight and just thought I had to comment.

Great storytelling, acting, irony, and just a VERY poetic way make this catalyst for Lex's evil turn.

Bravo AL and Miles!!

[fresh prince]

I loved it this was one of my favorite episodes of the season I loved how lex and clark were friends again and lex was dating lana never thought it would actually happen later in the season

[black-onyx]

A+....Even though it made me cry.

[silverfist]

I thought it was the damn best SV episodes I've ever seen so far.

[kryptonite_123]

I was really excite about that ep because lex and lana were together

[Lex.Luthor.85]

In my opinion Lexmas is the most beautiful episode in season five. There's no words to describe it. EXTRAORDINARY is the more indicated

[lois_lane-kent]

I refused to watch "Lexmas" for a long time. In fact, when it aired, I'd fallen asleep, and woke up just in time to see Lana die. I laughed, then went back to sleep.

It took me a while, but I finally watched it sometime in the fall during Season 6. Surprisingly, it's one of my Top 5 Favorite of the series. The fact that Holly Harold (whose only other good contribution to this show is Alicia Baker) wrote this and Lana was likable (only in alt. world, that is) still manages to catch me by surprise everytime I watch it. Rick Rosenthal's directing is amazing (like in "Promise," but with a likable plot to go with it).

[jesslang]

I liked it i thought it was good ...and i kinda liked it when lana and lex where living together and clark and chole where working at the daily planet ..it was nice i guess to see a little change of what could have been

[jesslang]

i loved just the thought of lex being broke!!! lol

----- Added 37 Seconds later -----

:Di loved just the thought of lex being broke!!! lol

[JFalcon]

Hated it. It was a mechanism the writers used to get viewers accustomed to the Lex/Lana nonsense. Lex was never that good, and everyone knew he would never be that good. The writers had to do something. KK had seven years on her contract.

After this episode you did notice that Lana developed acute amnesia.

[Twelling_SV_L0VE]

The scenes with Lana/Lex and their son were funny though :D.
It was a beautiful episode, and the fact that Clark helped Chloe and you saw him rushing trough the streets was great (for me then.)
I loved this epi, just like all the other ones :p:p

[disciples of zod]

i loved this episode. i watch it every year at Christmas eve! =]

~H

[6157]

I'm only ten minutes into this episode, where Lex and son meet Clark and Chloe at the christmas tree lot and I only have one thing to say:

And if I may paraphrase Lex from the beginning of the episode: What the fu....

[6157]

I wrote a brilliantly philosophical post about this episode, twice, and Firefox killed it both times. So here's the bullet points as I can remember them

1) The best episodes always seem to be based around Lex. The writing for Lex is the best of the entire series. His transformation would be seamless if we didn't know it was going to happen.

2) Using Lillian as the "guide" was a great plot point. The only truly loving family member Lex had showing Lex his chance at a truly loving family.

3) Lex was not willing to accept sacrifice, even at the expense of his family before he even got a chance to experience the greater good (Getting some time with a loving family as opposed to none). While Clark made countless sacrifices of himself and his personal life for the greater good. Just one more of the countless contrasts between Clark and Lex.

4) We can point to several episodes as the "beginning" of Superman's arch-enemy but I think this was the one that pushed him over the edge. If you want to be "romantic" about it, I would say his mother recognized the path he was on and chose this time to make one last effort for her son.

5) You know you're screwed when even your alternate reality is filled with heartache and tragedy.

I had so much more. F you, Firefox.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

I really love christmas so when I first saw the episode, I was pleasantly surprised to see my favorite show do a christmas-themed episode.

I really loved Lex & Lana as a couple with their young boy Alexander, and a baby girl in the oven :)

The Kent house looks beautiful at christmas- all smiles. YAY!! Love Clark's ringtone :lol:
Clark delivering presents, eating cookies & drinking milk = Awesome!!

[Nimkong]

Its a good episode but not on my top.Liked lex,liked how clark helped out santa and liked the plot

[SGuthrie27]

I LOVED this episode. "Lexmas" had so much to like about it, particularly in Lex's "dream world state." It was neat to see Lex back on a good path, even if it was in his own mind. Being on friendly terms with Clark, being a loving, devoted husband and father, surrounded by people who loved and respected him not because of his money or power, but because of the man he'd turned out to be... It was just so starkly different from the direction Lex had been headed in, and when juxtaposed next to the decision he made once he woke up as a result of Lana's "death," that made it that much more poignant and heartbreaking. I loved seeing Clark with Chloe (even though her name was never intentionally spoken in the alternate universe) buying a Christmas tree -- that just made my Chlarky heart jump for joy. :D The B Plot involving Santa was, indeed, a little bit silly, but it did offer some pretty cute Chlark scenes, so I guess I won't complain. ;) All in all, I definitely give this 10 stolen-Christmas-cookies-left for Santa out of 10 -- A+! :)

[Lonnietoons]

I did not like this one. I just, neh I didn't like it.

[hadezown]

Wow amazing episode. Great directing/acting. The mood for each scene is set perfectly. The Lexana scenes were really heartwarming, it's what Clana should be like with none of the pointless angst. I think I rank this #1 in this season so far followed by Mortal and Arrival. Any episode that develops Lex's character seems to be win win. If only every episode was on par with this.