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No-El
11-17-2005, 07:15 PM
For those Chlarkers it was a beautiful moment shared after both experienced the danger in FOS, as we saw Chloe save Clark who inturned saved/stopped a disaster from taking place!

Nice to see Chloe being kept warm in front of the Kent fireplace and Clark confiding once again to his friend and confidant Chloe!

PaleBlueDot
11-17-2005, 07:23 PM
GO Chlark!!!! Woohoo, that made my night.

katt12
11-17-2005, 07:28 PM
Not a Chlarker, but that was so sweet!

No-El
11-17-2005, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by PaleBlueDot
GO Chlark!!!! Woohoo, that made my night.


Yes, it did, it made every Chlarkers night!:D :D :D :D

Let's hope---like the "Energizer Bunny"---it keeps going and going and going!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Let's HOPE!!!:) :) :) :)

TrevorH
11-17-2005, 07:33 PM
Not bad, they sort of looked like a couple sitting next to the fire with the trusty dog.

sstray72
11-17-2005, 07:34 PM
It only could've been better if they were laying on a bearskin rug... :p

Great scene!! :D

boogalou86
11-17-2005, 07:48 PM
Maybe there is hope Clark will have a girlfriend who he trust with the secret. It would be nice for Chloe after Clana ends.

ma200
11-17-2005, 07:51 PM
This is stupid. Why can't Clark have a girlfriend whom he can love (Lana) and trust (Chloe)? It makes no sense whatsoever.

rosewolfe87
11-17-2005, 07:53 PM
Didn't much care for it. I would prefer if he was sitting beside Lana. Lana his GIRLFRIEND didn't even get a damn mention tonight.

Aloof
11-17-2005, 07:57 PM
Aww, it was too cute! But Clark has a girlfriend, doesn't that look a bit strange? :\

No-El
11-17-2005, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by rosewolfe87
Didn't much care for it. I would prefer if he was sitting beside Lana. Lana his GIRLFRIEND didn't even get a damn mention tonight.


Really??:rolleyes:

Yippie:D :D :D :D

chlana_sandwich
11-17-2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by rosewolfe87
Didn't much care for it. I would prefer if he was sitting beside Lana. Lana his GIRLFRIEND didn't even get a damn mention tonight.

I hate to say it... but I didn't miss her. I like KK, but her character is getting very annoying to me.

KalLover07
11-17-2005, 08:08 PM
There relationship is weird. They may love each other, but it can never last. (talking about Lana)

P.S. I heart Chlark!

Mrs.Bizzaro
11-17-2005, 08:10 PM
I was really scared for a good moment for chloe while she was there. I thought that in the process of saving ma kent that braniac would somehow kill chloe either directly or accidently. I was holding my breath during that FOS fight.

tmkfan
11-17-2005, 08:12 PM
Clarks such an idiot....... god

So im guessing you guys wouldnt call Lana a b itch if it were she and Lex in the same situation here right?! Cuz I dont see you ppl getting mad at Clark for being alone in a dark room with his best friend who happens to know his secret.

This is just wrong, Clark is getting way too close to that girl.

ma200
11-17-2005, 08:14 PM
Oh whatever, Clark and Chloe are just friends. There's no romantic vibes b/w them. My guy friend and I are like that too.

tw190
11-17-2005, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by tmkfan
Clarks such an idiot....... god

So im guessing you guys wouldnt call Lana a b itch if it were she and Lex in the same situation here right?! Cuz I dont see you ppl getting mad at Clark for being alone in a dark room with his best friend who happens to know his secret.

This is just wrong, Clark is getting way too close to that girl.

...I disagree. Chloe saved CLark's life and the FOS's existance back there, so you're griping over him sitting next to her by the fire?

I thought it was a great scene.

sstray72
11-17-2005, 08:18 PM
The reason why the Chlark fireside scene may have seemed wrong is because he's "boyfriend" to the wrong girl... :D

Great, Lana is his girlfriend... So what? She had NO point in this episode. So after this entire thing with braniac and the ship and the FOS and his mother's kryptonian disease, I guess it would've been better for him to sit around with his whiny girlfriend and lie about what happened while she lies about her involvement with Lex. Happy happy joy joy.... :rolleyes:

SuperGeek
11-17-2005, 08:18 PM
I'm a friendship Chlarker, not romance, but I was totally expecting them to kiss in that scene. And that made me conflicted, because Clark is Superman, and I could never support a Superman that cheats on his girlfriend. :(

No-El
11-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by tmkfan
Clarks such an idiot....... god

So im guessing you guys wouldnt call Lana a b itch if it were she and Lex in the same situation here right?! Cuz I dont see you ppl getting mad at Clark for being alone in a dark room with his best friend who happens to know his secret.

This is just wrong, Clark is getting way too close to that girl.


So you don't want Clark "getting way too close to" Chloe??

Good! Good! Remember the warning Jor-El/Lionel/Oracle warned in 'Hidden' in the FOS!

"the lifeforce which was returned to you will be taken from someone close to you...from someone....someone you love...."

Let's not have Chloe too close----shall we??:p :p :p

liana
11-17-2005, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by SuperGeek
I'm a friendship Chlarker, not romance, but I was totally expecting them to kiss in that scene. And that made me conflicted, because Clark is Superman, and I could never support a Superman that cheats on his girlfriend. :(

I haven't seen the episode yet, but was it a romantic scene between them? Something that Lana would have the right to be jealous about? If it was, I would agree with you. But was it any different from Lana and Lex together talking about the stone, last episode? They are becoming close friends too and I don't get the romantic vibe between them on Lana side. I say again, I haven't seen this episode, but whenever I feel any romantic vibe on Chlark scene, lately, it's mainly on Chloe's side, not Clark's. Besides, I don't believe Chloe would ever betray Lana's friendship. She is too loyal for that.

No-El
11-17-2005, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by SuperGeek
I'm a friendship Chlarker, not romance, but I was totally expecting them to kiss in that scene. And that made me conflicted, because Clark is Superman, and I could never support a Superman that cheats on his girlfriend. :(


And Superman/Clark did NOT cheat at that fireside!! :) :) :)

Remember Al Gough's comment on the envitable end of Clana.


Originally posted by liana
I haven't seen the episode yet, but was it a romantic scene between them? Something that Lana would have the right to be jealous about? If it was, I would agree with you. But was it any different from Lana and Lex together talking about the stone, last episode? They are becoming close friends too and I don't get the romantic vibe between them on Lana side. I say again, I haven't seen this episode, but whenever I feel any romantic vibe on Chlark scene, lately, it's mainly on Chloe's side, not Clark's. Besides, I don't believe Chloe would ever betray Lana's friendship. She is too loyal for that.


Don't worry nothing happened---won't spoil it for you either!:D

sstray72
11-17-2005, 08:36 PM
Relax Clanarchists... They weren't doing anything. It was completely platonic. Chloe was cold, that's all. Clark is completely open with Chloe though, and she has involved herself and put herself in danger many times this year so far, so he is able to talk to Chloe about things that he never could with Lana. That's the nature of their relationship.

Now, myself as a Chlarker would've loved to have seen them stare in each others' eyes or snuggle, but it didn't happen. Completely platonic!

I would've also liked for Clark to start singing:

I'm gonna make love to ya woman
I'm gonna lay you down by the fire
Gonna caress your heavenly body
Gonna make ya shake and perspire
Baby baby baby BAAABY!!!

:lol:

No-El
11-17-2005, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by sstray72
Relax Clanarchists... They weren't doing anything. It was completely platonic. Chloe was cold, that's all. Clark is completely open with Chloe though, and she has involved herself and put herself in danger many times this year so far, so he is able to talk to Chloe about things that he never could with Lana. That's the nature of their relationship.

Now, myself as a Chlarker would've loved to have seen them stare in each others' eyes or snuggle, but it didn't happen. Completely platonic!

I would've also liked for Clark to start singing:

I'm gonna make love to ya woman
I'm gonna lay you down by the fire
Gonna caress your heavenly body
Gonna make ya shake and perspire
Baby baby baby BAAABY!!!



:lol:


You know, just consider for a moment if an intimate scene did take place---I mean actually did take place---it would have caught the entire Smallville audience off guard and by surprise.

And we Chlarkers and the Clanas will be saying and asking WTF is going on he has a girl friend (not present, that's why she was not in the episode attitudes)!

Catch my meaning, it was better for us Chlarkers that it did NOT happen and the Clark/Chloe relationship is what it is at present!

sstray72
11-17-2005, 08:50 PM
Good point No-El, it would've made Chlark a bad thing since he would've been truly cheating on Lana. I'll be patient and wait for him to dump the girl first...

SteveS
11-17-2005, 08:54 PM
Lana is too tempermental to mess with despite her pretty face. It is time to put her back in the field, away from Clark. Chloe is still the superior girl available to Clark.

No-El
11-17-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by SteveS
Lana is too tempermental to mess with despite her pretty face. It is time to put her back in the field, away from Clark. Chloe is still the superior girl available to Clark.


Yes!

But we have to "be patient and wait for him to dump the girl first..." as 'sstray72' said!!:D

Al Gough said it, we Chlarkers just have to wait and be patient!!!:D

sleepykao3
11-17-2005, 09:17 PM
Ahhh that moment was so sweet :D Chlarkness is awesome, even if it's platonic :)

timmytooth
11-17-2005, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by tmkfan
Clarks such an idiot....... god

So im guessing you guys wouldnt call Lana a b itch if it were she and Lex in the same situation here right?! Cuz I dont see you ppl getting mad at Clark for being alone in a dark room with his best friend who happens to know his secret.

This is just wrong, Clark is getting way too close to that girl.


yea.....sounds like SOMEBODY's a lil bitter...

Chloe82
11-17-2005, 09:47 PM
WOO HOO CHLARK!

It was a very nice, very sweet scene, and hopefully there will be more of them once Clark dumps Blahna.

Or Blahna dumps him. I don't care which way it happens, as long as it happens.

Cassie

tejdog1
11-17-2005, 10:14 PM
2nd half of the season Chlark would prolly make me fly before Clark does. ;)

2nd half of the season Chlark would prolly make me fly before Clark does! And I mean that in a GOOD WAY! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHLAAAAAAAAARKKKKKKK!

GhostRider
11-17-2005, 10:16 PM
I thought it was a great scene. To be honest I was stunned that they didn't have Lana walking in to work the Chloe/Clark/Lana triangle. Actually it was the Clark/Chloe/Shelby triangle I guess. :lol: Anyway it was a cute scene.

cotton candy girl
11-17-2005, 10:25 PM
If Chloe becomes his girlfriend, I'm outta here. The way this show has been written, that's ridiculous. I don't watch for that. He's said they're just friends. Plus, if she did become his girlfriend, that would be way too much like Clois in the future. Just dumb!

mkitty3
11-17-2005, 10:28 PM
Al Gough said it, we Chlarkers just have to wait and be patient!!!

Whoa! Did Gough actually say that?!!! Please point me to this quote! I need reassurance that romantic Chlark will happen. I got all kinds of warm fuzzies tonight. Did Clark realize that Lana lied to him about the ship? It seemed like he had some kind of revelation there, but I couldn't quite make out what it was.

And even if Clark is starting to develop feelings for Chloe, he would never cheat on Lana. Sitting by a fire with the woman who just saved your life and probably the planet, does not consitute cheating. On the flip side, I do think he is beginning to see Lana and Chloe in totally new lights.

lzpoof
11-17-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by chlana_sandwich
I hate to say it... but I didn't miss her. I like KK, but her character is getting very annoying to me.

strange how Lana was so jealous of other women earlier on, yet now she doesn't care if Clark's in a sorority full of hotties or sittin by the fire with Chloe.

smallville_fetish
11-17-2005, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by lzpoof
strange how Lana was so jealous of other women earlier on, yet now she doesn't care if Clark's in a sorority full of hotties or sittin by the fire with Chloe.

Because Lana is more secure with Clark than he is with Lana about Lex. Well maybe because Chloe is a good friend to both of them and are happy for both of them and she'll never act on her feelings for Clark while Lex on the other hand...... umm... yeah.

I like Chloe but I'm not a Chlark shipper so I hate it when they show Chloe and Clark together like they ARE a couple when they're just friends. It just gets the Chlark fans' hopes up that theres a possiblity. But it's a better possiblity and a better sight than Lexana. *shudders*

Lets just say if it was Will&Grace nobody would be considering this. (Minus the one being gay part) So maybe they're just showing them being close best friends who love each other but it's not in a romantic way.

slave2moonlight
11-18-2005, 12:02 AM
Personally, I totally don't buy the idea of a close, platonic relationship between a young male and female. I've NEVER seen such a thing in the real world unless at least ONE of them secretly longed for the other. Even on TV, it may be all over the place, but usually it's all for sexual tension and the truth eventually comes out. I do hear people claim to be in such a friendship from time to time, women seem to be more insistant that it is a possibility, but a little observation and conversation usually brings the truth out. Point being, no matter how much you trust each other, it's never wise for someone in a relationship to be in a private and/or cuddly situation with someone else of the opposite sex.

Anywho, that having been said, I'm more of a Clois guy. It's just inevitable. I think Kristin Kreuk is gorgeous, but I've finally had to admit that her character has become unnecessary and sometimes annoying. And, at this point I wouldn't be surprised with the PTB doing ANYTHING with Clark, even having him cheat on his girlfriend. I would consider it totally inappropriate for the future Superman, but he's already crossed that line for me anyway. I still love the show, but they've made character mistakes already in my opinion.

Regardless, I have to say this: Chloe never looked more gorgeous than when she was all snuggly by that fire! I would HAVE to have a girlfriend already to resist the way she looked in that particular scene! But, since I'm single, I don't think I could have resisted, especially knowing Chloe's feelings.

Erok-El
11-18-2005, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by SuperGeek
I could never support a Superman that cheats on his girlfriend. :(

100% with you on that. Dump Lana.

smallville_fetish
11-18-2005, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by slave2moonlight
Personally, I totally don't buy the idea of a close, platonic relationship between a young male and female. I've NEVER seen such a thing in the real world unless at least ONE of them secretly longed for the other.

Well yeah just like in Will&Grace it was Grace who had feelings for Will but a part of her got over the fact that she'll never have him. Of course this is Smallville not some 30min comedy (though sometimes it feels like it) So in this case yeah you're right it is Chloe who's the one with feelings for Clark but instead of Clark being gay, he's in love with someone else.

She'll always hope but never expect him to return the feelings. Eventually she'll focus those feelings more on caring about him as a friend. Though I do too sense some chemistry between them sometimes.. mostly from Chloe. (Chloe is always there for Clark, more so than he is there for her. Just like in Hidden when he got shot she was crying and begging Gabriell to help Clark and when Clark was immortal again he ran home to his parents and Lana forgetting about Chloe. That did disturb me and I thought that was wrong and he should've handled that better like check up on his friend first but that's also showing he'll never return the feelings she has for him- even if that's a very bad way of showing it)

I shouldn't be pushing the envelope on this Chlark thing not happening because much of you on this thread are probably Chlark fans I won't babble on because you have your reasons of why it is possibility. I just much rather have them bestfriends/partners in crime and the whole duo thing even if it's unfair to Chloe but it's fun to watch these 2 interact like that since they were never this close in the previous seasons and Clark needs someone he can trust and confide in about his secrets besides the Kents who have parental authorities over him.

I see Chloe as someone who's always going to be single because she'll never get over Clark or find someone equal to him. Which is sad cuz she deserves someone who she also can confide in as well as give her attention because when she's with Clark it's always about him and his problems, helping him and fixing his problems and congratulating him and his accomplishments when most of the time he couldn't have done without her. That’s another thing about being best friends is that it truely never is a two way thing. And if it is than it is a 'more than just friends' kinda thing.

Kryptomaniac
11-18-2005, 01:24 AM
GREAT SCENE. This director really knows what we like! He also photographed ALL the actors at their best angles tonight...sweet.

MsSullivan
11-18-2005, 02:12 AM
the Chlark was beautiful. I'm amazed and thrilled on how much great Chlark we are getting this season. Bring on Lexmas!

lzpoof
11-18-2005, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by smallville_fetish
Well yeah just like in Will&Grace it was Grace who had feelings for Will but a part of her got over the fact that she'll never have him. Of course this is Smallville not some 30min comedy (though sometimes it feels like it) So in this case yeah you're right it is Chloe who's the one with feelings for Clark but instead of Clark being gay, he's in love with someone else.

She'll always hope but never expect him to return the feelings. Eventually she'll focus those feelings more on caring about him as a friend. Though I do too sense some chemistry between them sometimes.. mostly from Chloe. (Chloe is always there for Clark, more so than he is there for her. Just like in Hidden when he got shot she was crying and begging Gabriell to help Clark and when Clark was immortal again he ran home to his parents and Lana forgetting about Chloe. That did disturb me and I thought that was wrong and he should've handled that better like check up on his friend first but that's also showing he'll never return the feelings she has for him- even if that's a very bad way of showing it)

I shouldn't be pushing the envelope on this Chlark thing not happening because much of you on this thread are probably Chlark fans I won't babble on because you have your reasons of why it is possibility. I just much rather have them bestfriends/partners in crime and the whole duo thing even if it's unfair to Chloe but it's fun to watch these 2 interact like that since they were never this close in the previous seasons and Clark needs someone he can trust and confide in about his secrets besides the Kents who have parental authorities over him.

I see Chloe as someone who's always going to be single because she'll never get over Clark or find someone equal to him. Which is sad cuz she deserves someone who she also can confide in as well as give her attention because when she's with Clark it's always about him and his problems, helping him and fixing his problems and congratulating him and his accomplishments when most of the time he couldn't have done without her. That’s another thing about being best friends is that it truely never is a two way thing. And if it is than it is a 'more than just friends' kinda thing.

So the point is it's possible to ahve a platonic relationship between a young man and woman as long as one of them is gay ...... hmmm ... works for me

Randy G.
11-18-2005, 02:59 AM
That was a great scene. I was yelling at the TV....."KISS HER YOU FOOL!" :lol: :rotfl:

jaime,oburg
11-18-2005, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by boogalou86
Maybe there is hope Clark will have a girlfriend who he trust with the secret. It would be nice for Chloe after Clana ends.

AMEN!:D

sirconical
11-18-2005, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Oh whatever, Clark and Chloe are just friends. There's no romantic vibes b/w them. My guy friend and I are like that too. I think there's something you should know about your guy friend...


Originally posted by No-El
Yes!

But we have to "be patient and wait for him to dump the girl first..." as 'sstray72' said!!:D

Al Gough said it, we Chlarkers just have to wait and be patient!!!:D WHAT!? When did he say that??? Please tell me it wasn't a joke. I don't think I can be patient. They're obviously far more suited to each other than any couple have been since Jonathan and Martha Kent!


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
If Chloe becomes his girlfriend, I'm outta here. The way this show has been written, that's ridiculous. I don't watch for that. He's said they're just friends. Plus, if she did become his girlfriend, that would be way too much like Clois in the future. Just dumb! Sayonara.


Originally posted by lzpoof
So the point is it's possible to ahve a platonic relationship between a young man and woman as long as one of them is gay ...... hmmm ... works for me Nooo. The point was it's never completely platonic. Like he said, Grace had feelings for Will. Now if Grace had been gay too maybe it would've been different. Saying that, plenty of "straight" men who are friends also harbour secret feelings about each other, often without even realising it :p

Ms.Lane
11-18-2005, 06:47 AM
I thought it was a wonderful scene. And I don't know why all the Clana fans are freaking out, nothing "bad" happened at all. If you watched it, it was completely obvious. If you haven't watched it then you have no place criticizing it.

Anyway, I loved it. I truly think since Chloe has found out the whole truth, she's really moved on from her feelings for Clark. Sure, there are times when she might think, 'what if he had loved me instead of Lana?' but I think now that she's matured, she realizes that she's happier being the one he trusts and not the one he loves (eventually, Lois will be both :) ). Protecting his secret is way too important to her. I wanted to see Chloe and Clark together for awhile but now (since she learned the secret) I don't. I like them the way they are.

bluegayle
11-18-2005, 06:48 AM
cute girl wrapped in a blanket + fireplace + dog lying nearby + chocolate/coffee = .... nothing...

so the writers love foreshadowing death of chloe, death of martha kent, introduction of lois to journalism, but nothing about a little of a prolonged look between two characters who possibly have a growing affection for each other even if one of them is tied up in a relationship, as well as one of them knowing some very intimate secrets and both people pretty much having saved the other on several occasions?

i didnt necessarily want them to kiss either, or start making out. i just thought looking at each other, it would be one of those moments that you start thinking something, then you quickly dismiss it because it's not possible, yet it did pass through your mind.

BizzaroJerry
11-18-2005, 06:59 AM
Humans are humans,

No matter how far we think we have come with all the great wonders we have created on this earth with our minds and with our hands there are some fundamental things that still escape us.

The interaction between men and women is one of those things, one minute we think we have everything worked out and the next all the rules change.

For me every time they show as a tender Chlark moment it just fires me up, why in the hell are they doing this, no one ever does something like this....

The background music, the lighting, the close ups and the vocal tones, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Directors aren’t stupid (well most of them) their trying to deliver a message to their viewers.

The interaction between Chloe and Clark can never really be platonic, we already know that Chloe loves him somewhere in heart, so no matter how deep she hides it, it will always be there, waiting for it to be triggered.

Q. How do you get over loving someone who is superman?

A. You don’t, Pete knew this and knew this well.

People who think there just really "good friends" just don't want to see what’s in front of them and those who say that there currently in a relationship just like the one depicted in smallville with a member of the opposite sex (or maybe the same sex?) should really lay down in a dark room and think to themselves that perhaps the friend that they think they know so well...

They might not really know them at all...

Something to ponder over..

Regards

BizzaroJerry

unPTC
11-18-2005, 07:01 AM
I was considering a rolling my eyes at inappropriate moments about this scene...it had potential, but the idea of Clark and Chloe discussing Zod with straight faces was almost humorous to me...I miss the old Chloe who had an edge and was actually funny and snarky....the old Chloe wouldn't have had a fireside chat about something that is totally wall of weird...in prior seasons her serious moments with Clark had to do with friendship, trust, examining her motives....real issues...the Wall of W stuff had a different tone to it when she discussed it...now it's too heavy....this total embracing of all the weird in Clark's life by Chloe sucks the fun out of her character sometimes...like this one...

Liriel
11-18-2005, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by SuperGeek
I'm a friendship Chlarker, not romance, but I was totally expecting them to kiss in that scene. And that made me conflicted, because Clark is Superman, and I could never support a Superman that cheats on his girlfriend. :(

I love Chloe/Chlark/Chlois, but I wasn't expecting them to kiss. I'd never support a Superman that cheats on his girlfriend either. But in the comics he and Lori kissed (don't know who initiated it, but it was a mutual kiss) when he was engaged to Lois.

tw190
11-18-2005, 07:09 AM
Well, unPTC, these past few episodes have been pretty serious. Thirst we got to see a more snarky side of Chloe.

unPTC
11-18-2005, 07:15 AM
Just because the episode is serious, doesn't mean the edge can't be there...think of Lionel...Truth was pretty serious and the convo at the end of that one between Chloe and Clark was one of the best between them in my opinion...

Chloestheone
11-18-2005, 07:18 AM
Warm fuzzies indeed!:D
I'm liking the contrast between the passion for the girl he can't trust with his secret and complete comfort with the girl he can trust with the key to his spaceship.

Billy Jor-El
11-18-2005, 07:31 AM
Best scene in a totally awesome ep!

Sure, I wantedthem to grab each other and go totally horizontal :) But it wasn't the right thing for our future Superman to do.

You're right in that Chloe isn't over Clark as far as loving him. Come on, he's a tough act to follow, so I don't see the scene as totally platonic, not on her part. Give Chloe more credit as having "matured" because she didn't jump him on the spot. And if she had and Clark resisted....well then Superman is gay :lol:

This wasn't the first time Chloe has come to Clark's rescue, and maybe not the last. She is always there for him, she is his Supergirl. Maybe he'll wake up to that fact.

And nope, didn't miss Lana one bit.

My only fear right now is that there won't be any more new eps until after the new year? I'm sure no new one next week ciz of Turkey Day....but can we have some more before January....puleeeze?

Dudewheresmycar
11-18-2005, 07:44 AM
Few things:

Snarky - while the word sounds like it would describe Chloe, I had no idea what the word *actually* meant so I looked it up, and it doesn't describe Chloe *at all* here's the definition: irritable or short-tempered; irascible.

I didn't miss Lana either. Lana who?

As far as the whole boys and girls can't be just "friends" without one of them harboring secret feelings for the other, while I agree, we probably shouldn't be pointing this out to those people who think they have that kind of relationship, as it might ruin it for their "friend", and the "friend" - while he/she may be harboring said feelings, he/she may or may not ever act on them, thus keeping the relationship as a friendship. I think it's this way with Clark and Chloe. She has romantic feelings for him, he doesn't, they both know it, I honestly don't think Clark and Chloe will ever be romantically involved, as much as I might want it to happen.

I'm happy that Chloe's still alive, I was scurred for a minute there in the FoS. I'm still scurred about the whole Jor-El statement that someone close to Clark will die.

SmallvilleMan
11-18-2005, 08:27 AM
No reason for clana fans to be upset at that. Because they should know clark loves Lana and doesn't love chloe.

mkitty3
11-18-2005, 08:54 AM
No reason for clana fans to be upset at that. Because they should know clark loves Lana and doesn't love chloe.

Yeah, except Clana fans are clearly upset because they are seeing exactly what everyone else is, an intimate, bonded relationship between a man and woman that trust each other unconditionally ....and psssst.... it isn't between Clana. Clark may love Lana with all his heart and soul, but the fact remains that he doesn't have enough faith in her to accept who he really is. I believe we are in the final countdown for Clana.

Who knows if Clark will ever return Chloe's romantic feelings, after years of hoping and getting let down, I have little faith. But I do know the pairing seems more popular than ever, not just here, but every forum and LJ I have visited lately. People who have never even considered them as a couple are now taking notice. Perhaps the writers and producers will catch on to that as well.

Dudewheresmycar
11-18-2005, 10:13 AM
Yep, it's cuz of their chemistry, Clark and Chloe have always had good chemistry, and it's great that non-Chlarkers are actually noticing now.

photogirl
11-18-2005, 10:23 AM
I thought it was the best scene of the episode. I loved clark's comment to chloe about how Brainiac said that humans weren't trustworthy and everything, but obviously he hadn't met her. That was so sweet. It was a great scene. Yeah, Chloe was a little less "This is wall of wierd, and the fact that it is wall of wierd matters more than what it has to do with my best friend." but that was good, i think. I really hope that TPTB has the mind to put clark and chloe together for a while post lana pre lois. Clark and Chloe can be open with each other, and in a real relationship it is not all about feelings. Lana and Clark are only together because of the way they feel. They obviously can't be honest with each other. Chloe has obviously decided to be totally truthful with Clark, the same way he has with her. She told him that she knew about Milton Fine because Lionel Luthor told her. In the 2nd or 3rd season she never would have told him that. Oh, right, and the fireplace and the dog, well it was a sweet scene.

No-El
11-18-2005, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by sirconical
I think there's something you should know about your guy friend...

WHAT!? When did he say that??? Please tell me it wasn't a joke. I don't think I can be patient. They're obviously far more suited to each other than any couple have been since Jonathan and Martha Kent!


There is confusion on what I was convey "sstray72" who couldn't take Clana anymore.

Al Gough said the relationship between Clark and Lana will end sometime this season 5!

Now, my view is, WHEN Clana ends, it MAY leave room for what I see a "Long Term Transitional Relationship" of Clark and Chloe before Lois!

Al Gough stated that...."don't expect to see Lois and Clark getting close at all anytime in the series"...;they are just friends who have their quirks about each other.

Remember it is just a view point that follows a progression of relationships of the Women in Clark's life.:)

All about Clark
11-18-2005, 11:04 AM
It was the best scene of the show. I'm just happy to see them there for each other, it is enough for me and I don't need the romantic, but it does strike me that Clark will begin to see how special she is and not see that in Lana.

MediaGuy0979
11-18-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by tmkfan
Clarks such an idiot....... god

So im guessing you guys wouldnt call Lana a b itch if it were she and Lex in the same situation here right?! Cuz I dont see you ppl getting mad at Clark for being alone in a dark room with his best friend who happens to know his secret.

This is just wrong, Clark is getting way too close to that girl.

LOL. I agree Clark is an idiot, but not for the same reasons. He should be with Chloe not Lana. What does he see in her anyway? Chloe's loyal, trustworthy, beautiful, smart, etc, etc. Lana can't be trusted, she tends to be a bit slutty at times, manipulative, and the only thing she really has going for her is her looks, which IMO pale by comparison with Chloe.

I can accept them (Clark and Chloe) never being more than friends, but why the hell is Clark still with Lana?

No-El
11-18-2005, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by MediaGuy0979
LOL. I agree Clark is an idiot, but not for the same reasons. He should be with Chloe not Lana. What does he see in her anyway? Chloe's loyal, trustworthy, beautiful, smart, etc, etc. Lana can't be trusted, she tends to be a bit slutty at times, manipulative, and the only thing she really has going for her is her looks, which IMO pale by comparison with Chloe.

I can accept them (Clark and Chloe) never being more than friends, but why the hell is Clark still with Lana?


Go see the "Characters - Chloe Sullivan - Is Chloe the right person for Clark or not why?" Forum and my reasons I think that after last nights "Solitude" episode she IS his SOULMATE for the present!!

*She's loyal and loving caring!!
*She's willing to help and guide him when he needs it!
*She watches his back and covers for him willingly!!
*She know's his secret which will never leave her lips! *Concerned for his overall well-being!
*She is strong minded and a great investigator for truth and justice.
*She, I believe, deep down in the recesses of her being wants Clark to one day return her love for him!
*But most of all, she wants him to fulfill his destiny even if it means never having him at all!!!!

These reasons make you wanna scream down your street to the whole neighborhood or place where you live------Chloe and Clark are Forever!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

umm
11-18-2005, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by rosewolfe87
Didn't much care for it. I would prefer if he was sitting beside Lana. Lana his GIRLFRIEND didn't even get a damn mention tonight.

Yeah, great isn´t it! No Lana, and no Clana the whole episode through! Those writers fo a great job!:lol: :rotfl: :) :D

Liriel
11-18-2005, 12:09 PM
Lana didn't get a mention because she didn't need one - she was never even told about Martha's condition, which is entirely in keeping with Clark keeping her in the dark about things (not that I agree with him, but that's not the point). This ep was about Clark and his family and Fine and Jor-El. Chloe and Lois do a little investigating so that Clark has a way to be saved from Kryptonite later on. The rest is all Kents and Fine.

Daphne
11-18-2005, 12:13 PM
I didn't think that what they were doing was in anyway cheating. BUT, I have to say, if I walked in on a boyfriend sitting there with another gal that close and in front of the fire I would definitely be raisin' the eyebrows.

SmallvilleMan
11-18-2005, 12:14 PM
"Clark and Lana are only together, because of the way they feel." That's usually how relationships are and it's the most important thing, imo. If you don't feel something for someone, then a relationship can never work, which is why chloe and Clark have never gotten together. He doesn't feel about chloe, the way he feels about Lana. Yes, clark and chloe may have a bond, they do trust each other now. HOWEVER, i'll let you in on a secret, it wasn't his choice. He was forced into trusting her and it worked out. The ONLY person clark ever really wanted to tell, was Lana. You can say anything about trust, but a relationship has no chance of surviving without love, the most important thing.

umm
11-18-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
"Clark and Lana are only together, because of the way they feel." That's usually how relationships are and it's the most important thing, imo. If you don't feel something for someone, then a relationship can never work, which is why chloe and Clark have never gotten together. He doesn't feel about chloe, the way he feels about Lana. Yes, clark and chloe may have a bond, they do trust each other now. HOWEVER, i'll let you in on a secret, it wasn't his choice. He was forced into trusting her and it worked out. The ONLY person clark ever really wanted to tell, was Lana. You can say anything about trust, but a relationship has no chance of surviving without love, the most important thing.

Love may be the most important condition for a relationship to form and take place in the first place, but without trust, love won´t help you! And Clark, deep down in his heart, knows he can´t trust Lana! That´s just the way it is!

jimmyolsenblues
11-18-2005, 12:19 PM
When I saw the Clark and Chloe Fireside Moment, I absolutely thought this is Crack Cocaine to the Chlarkers. They will be the best of friends, but ...... (I should not rain on your parade)....never mind.

Nerial
11-18-2005, 12:26 PM
You know, I didn't even notice Lana wasn't there at all.

I notice when there's not Chloe, Mom and Dad, Lois, Lionel and Lex, but for some reason, when Lana's not there, I don't feel any emptiness in the story.

Go figure.

umm
11-18-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
When I saw the Clark and Chloe Fireside Moment, I absolutely thought this is Crack Cocaine to the Chlarkers. They will be the best of friends, but ...... (I should not rain on your parade)....never mind.

No problem! I actually have no hopes of Chlark ever happening, I mean it would be great, and she is the right person for him but the writers, and therefore Clark as well, have Lana blinders on, so I know that Chlark won´t happen! So when I say, that he can´t trust Lana to handle him being an alien, I am not saying it out of some deluded hope that Chlark will happen, but because that´s a fact! Lana is a weak character by nature, and despite her kung fu fighting, she is not a fighter, she simply doesn´t have it in her to be the right support that Clark/KalEl/Superman/Naman needs!
Kyla had it, Chloe has it, and the future Lois will have it, but Lana never has or will!

Watching Smallville
11-18-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Daphne
I didn't think that what they were doing was in anyway cheating. BUT, I have to say, if I walked in on a boyfriend sitting there with another gal that close and in front of the fire I would definitely be raisin' the eyebrows.

So would I. Especially if he had put me in the hospital the week before, even if it wasn't his fault.

No-El
11-18-2005, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
"Clark and Lana are only together, because of the way they feel." That's usually how relationships are and it's the most important thing, imo. If you don't feel something for someone, then a relationship can never work, which is why chloe and Clark have never gotten together. He doesn't feel about chloe, the way he feels about Lana. Yes, clark and chloe may have a bond, they do trust each other now. HOWEVER, i'll let you in on a secret, it wasn't his choice. He was forced into trusting her and it worked out. The ONLY person clark ever really wanted to tell, was Lana. You can say anything about trust, but a relationship has no chance of surviving without love, the most important thing.


So you are saying that the Clark and Lana relationship has no chance of surviving without without the most important element---love??:confused:

Remember if they love each other they will stay together but, remember Al Gough said their relationship will end this season 5.

Which means something/someone must be the catalyst for the split.

Clark on the other had did want to tell Chloe as he said to her in the Yukon Hospital in 'Arrival'

"....there were so many times I wanted to tell you..." as hinted in past episodes of Season 4.

Something to consider.:)

timmytooth
11-18-2005, 12:39 PM
When I watched that scene, I didn't get any romantic vibe at all. Chloe pretty much saved Clark's life and Earth. Was he supposed to keep 5 feet away from her after that? AND it's not like he just met Chloe. He was friends with her before him and Lana even got together. I don't think it's fair that he should change his relationship with her just because he has a gf now. Lana should at least rust him that much. Yeah there's always the possibility of him cheating on her, but if she cared about him, she'd give him that much trust.

MyOwnSuperhero
11-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
When I saw the Clark and Chloe Fireside Moment, I absolutely thought this is Crack Cocaine to the Chlarkers. :\ <-----My Crackhead Face!

I know that there are a lot of Clana feinds out there who get rabid about the potential Chlark, and I know that there are some who think Chloe will soon die. I happen to be perfectly secure with the idea that Clana is a doomed relationship, and has been from the outset. I think it's safe to say that any relationship that starts in a graveyard is destined to die a long, angsty death, as Clana has for years. Additionally, I seriously doubt that Chloe will die. They've already played the 'Chloe's dead' card. I don't think they'll do it again.

As a Chlarker, I am perfectly content to say that Chloe can move right on into the picture when Clana meets its inevitable demise.

unPTC
11-18-2005, 12:48 PM
"Remember if they love each other they will stay together but, remember Al Gough said their relationship will end this season 5."

Love doens't always mean staying together and when did Gough say the relationship will end THIS season? The only one who implied that it would end this season was Tom Welling in some interview when he said this season "we're gonna find out why Lana Lang is not a part of Superman's life" though that could mean anything...

No-El
11-18-2005, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by MyOwnSuperhero
:\ <-----My Crackhead Face!

I know that there are a lot of Clana feinds out there who get rabid about the potential Chlark, and I know that there are some who think Chloe will soon die. I happen to be perfectly secure with the idea that Clana is a doomed relationship, and has been from the outset. I think it's safe to say that any relationship that starts in a graveyard is destined to die a long, angsty death, as Clana has for years. Additionally, I seriously doubt that Chloe will die. They've already played the 'Chloe's dead' card. I don't think they'll do it again.

As a Chlarker, I am perfectly content to say that Chloe can move right on into the picture when Clana meets its inevitable demise.


ha!:lol:

I like the relationship/graveyard analogy! :lol: :lol:

Very well put indeed; now if the writers can somewhere down the line get Chlark fires burning (though shortterm as it may seem) they will give us a good Smallville memory!!:D :D

SmallvilleMan
11-18-2005, 01:14 PM
Obviously you missed the REALLY part of my statement on clark wanting to tell Lana. He said he thinks about telling her every day. Can't say the same about chloe, especially when she went to lionel behind his back. Speaking of trusting, I don't recall Lana ever doing something like that. Anyways, Clana will die, yes, but at least it will have lived. Chlark might never even be alive. I'll take all the clana angst and everything else you want to say about it. In the end though, as a clana fan and every other clana fan will know that they loved each other. There moments together, showing how much they loved each other, can never be taken away. Chlark will have it's friends moments, but it will never match clana in the love department and i'm perfectly content with that. Love also doesn't mean you stay together, but love never dies!

umm
11-18-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Obviously you missed the REALLY part of my statement on clark wanting to tell Lana. He said he thinks about telling her every day. Can't say the same about chloe, especially when she went to lionel behind his back. Speaking of trusting, I don't recall Lana ever doing something like that. Anyways, Clana will die, yes, but at least it will have lived. Chlark might never even be alive. I'll take all the clana angst and everything else you want to say about it. In the end though, as a clana fan and every other clana fan will know that they loved each other. There moments together, showing how much they loved each other, can never be taken away. Chlark will have it's friends moments, but it will never match clana in the love department and i'm perfectly content with that. Love also doesn't mean you stay together, but love never dies!

Well, You take your Clana angst filled moments, but in my humble opinion, and I am speaking purely on my own behalf, Chlark friendship moments are ten thousend times more worth! It´s then that you can witness love and support of the rarest and purest kind! True friendships last for ever, cos that kind of love burns slowly but constantly, but relationships like Clana burn strong, burn out fast, and fade from memory even faster!

jimmyolsenblues
11-18-2005, 01:23 PM
Please remember I am not Clana member, I am not a Chlarker.... I am from a desolate waste planet with no survivors called…. ClAlicia. So no matter what happens to Chloe and Lana, remember that my girl is already worm food. Be grateful for what you have and what you might have in the future, because sooner are later we all get cancelled.

GhostRider
11-18-2005, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by unPTC
"Remember if they love each other they will stay together but, remember Al Gough said their relationship will end this season 5."

Love doens't always mean staying together and when did Gough say the relationship will end THIS season? The only one who implied that it would end this season was Tom Welling in some interview when he said this season "we're gonna find out why Lana Lang is not a part of Superman's life" though that could mean anything...

You're right, AG never said that. People are paraphrasing and thereby changing the meaning of what he said. AG only said that they will be together for awhile. He also said that they will be playing Lexana to a degree as well. I'm not saying that Clana will last all season, I'm saying that we have nothing conclusive one way or the other. Facts, people, facts.

To be honest the relationship, along with a lot of other things, is dependent on how long they think the series will run and right now they are confident of six seasons.

umm
11-18-2005, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Please remember I am not Clana member, I am not a Chlarker.... I am from a desolate waste planet with no survivors called…. ClAlicia. So no matter what happens to Chloe and Lana, remember that my girl is already worm food. Be grateful for what you have and what you might have in the future, because sooner are later we all get cancelled.

Oh sorry! Now you made me feel bad! See what you did!:rotfl:

No-El
11-18-2005, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by umm
Oh sorry! Now you made ne feel bad! See what you did!:rotfl:

Well umm, he is right!:(

We Charlers should consider ourselves lucky we have Chloe now we should enjoy every Chlark moment they give us on Smallville!!:) :) :) :)

How sadly put though, how sadly put!:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

umm
11-18-2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by No-El
Well umm, he is right!:(

We Charlers should consider ourselves lucky we have Chloe now we should enjoy every Chlark moment they give us on Smallville!!:) :) :) :)

How sadly put though, how sadly put!:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

You are right, I know! It´s just I am just a tad bit more happier about a Smallville episode than usual! I can´t help it, no Lana, so I am a tad bit giddy! I know that some shippers are not in as good position as we are, although I don´t count myself as a shipper! I am an anticlana shipper though!:lol: :rotfl:

MyOwnSuperhero
11-18-2005, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Obviously you missed the REALLY part of my statement on clark wanting to tell Lana. He said he thinks about telling her every day. Can't say the same about chloe, especially when she went to lionel behind his back. Speaking of trusting, I don't recall Lana ever doing something like that. Anyways, Clana will die, yes, but at least it will have lived. Chlark might never even be alive. I'll take all the clana angst and everything else you want to say about it. In the end though, as a clana fan and every other clana fan will know that they loved each other. There moments together, showing how much they loved each other, can never be taken away. Chlark will have it's friends moments, but it will never match clana in the love department and i'm perfectly content with that. Love also doesn't mean you stay together, but love never dies! Rabid much?

umm
11-18-2005, 01:50 PM
To be honest the relationship, along with a lot of other things, is dependent on how long they think the series will run and right now they are confident of six seasons. [/B][/QUOTE]

God I hope not! Who can indure Clana for longer than one season?:confused:

MyOwnSuperhero
11-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Please remember I am not Clana member, I am not a Chlarker.... I am from a desolate waste planet with no survivors called…. ClAlicia. So no matter what happens to Chloe and Lana, remember that my girl is already worm food. Be grateful for what you have and what you might have in the future, because sooner are later we all get cancelled. Poor JOB, life's tough as a ClAlicia shipper. Of course that one was seriously doomed from the outset - she was straight up psycho...

Chlark or no chlark, the Clana is doomed. I even enjoyed a few eps back, when it was still a happy, healthy relationship, but just wait. It'll keep getting darker and will end up broken and bitter. Which might also describe how Clana shippers will react to that development.

I just don't think it's coincidence that at the same time that Clana is becoming more convoluted, Chloe drops a line referring to her desire to be the 'object of his desire'. I don't think it's coincidence that while he's lying to Lana, he's opening up more to Chloe. Once the Clana ends, it would make perfect sense for Chlark to happen, and they wouldn't just re-emphasize Chlark for nothing.

No-El
11-18-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by umm
You are right, I know! It´s just I am just a tad bit more happier about a Smalliville episode than usual! I can´t help it, no Lana, so I am a tad bit giddy! I know that some shippers are not in as good position as we are, although I don´t count myself as a shipper! I am an anticlana shipper though!:lol: :rotfl:


Well let's see, Lana at present is important to story line of the eventual split with Clark---looks like the split will be after the "Big 100" but it will take place according Al Gough.

So that should eliminate those Lana shippers right out of the picture and hopefully if Chloe survives---there may be some story arcs for Chlark.:D :D

So let's say that after the "Big 100" all the 5 younger actors are locked in plus Martha is locked----that means we have the men which may leave.


But back to the Fireside moment----anything romantic could not take place for fear of Clana backlash on us Chlarkers!:( :(

umm
11-18-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by No-El
Well let's see, Lana at present is important to story line of the eventual split with Clark---looks like the split will be after the "Big 100" but it will take place according Al Gough.

So that should eliminate those Lana shippers right out of the picture and hopefully if Chloe survives---there may be some story arcs for Chlark.:D :D

So let's say that after the "Big 100" all the 5 younger actors are locked in plus Martha is locked----that means we have the men which may leave.


But back to the Fireside moment----anything romantic could not take place for fear of Clana backlash on us Chlarkers!:( :(

We will all just have to wait and see!
Like I said on another thread, Clana on Smallville for more than one season, let´s just say, God, I can´t even finish the sentence, the mere possiblity of that is debilitating!

No-El
11-18-2005, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by umm
We will all just have to wait and see!
Like I said on another thread, Clana on Smallville for more than one season, let´s just say, God, I can´t even finish the sentence, the mere possiblity of that is debilitating!


Found something on Al Gough's comment on Clana!:D :D

Here's the link to the interview!

What he says about Clana, is near/at Kristin's Photo!


Al Gough on This Year's 'Smallville': 'This is the Season...You've Been Waiting to See.' (http://spaces.msn.com/members/tvfilter/blog/cns!1pn0Lz9xKV9nBpvYj33hy5Hg!1024.entry?nc=1&ch=cns!1pn0Lz9xKV9nBpvYj33hy5Hg!1150)

Dudewheresmycar
11-18-2005, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by umm
We will all just have to wait and see!
Like I said on another thread, Clana on Smallville for more than one season, let´s just say, God, I can´t even finish the sentence, the mere possiblity of that is debilitating!

:lol: Umm you kill me!

No-El
11-18-2005, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Dudewheresmycar
:lol: Umm you kill me!


Yeah, the torture would be "Total and Complete"!!!:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :( :( :( :( :( :( :mad: :mad:

Chloeeyes
11-18-2005, 04:09 PM
I would like to see more Chlark in next eps.....

No-El
11-18-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Chloeeyes
I would like to see more Chlark in next eps.....


Yes, that means more adventures at the Daily Planet in good ole Metropolis!!!:) :) :) :) :) :) :D

Just like Al Gough said even in the Season 5 synopsis....Chloe feeding Clark the info on leads and where to go instead of just happening upon them...."!!

Great!! Chloe's gonna stay beyond #100; and don't forget what she said at the fireside petting Shelby the dog:

...."NEXT time I go up North, remind me to bring my parka!"


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

shy175223
11-18-2005, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by No-El
There is confusion on what I was convey "sstray72" who couldn't take Clana anymore.

Al Gough said the relationship between Clark and Lana will end sometime this season 5!

Now, my view is, WHEN Clana ends, it MAY leave room for what I see a "Long Term Transitional Relationship" of Clark and Chloe before Lois!

IF Almiles allows that to happen which I don't think they will.

GhostRider
11-18-2005, 04:43 PM
Lana starts out with Clark, but who's to say that relationship will survive till the end of the season? Because, once again, he's not going to be honest with her. How long are they going to last? Will they last?

You see he's not really giving anything away, maybe it'll last til the end of the season, maybe not. He's being cagey because he doesn't want to give away what's really going to happen. If I had to venture a guess, Lex will be making a play for Lana all season and with Clark being dishonest she's really going to be confused. At the end of the season she may have to choose between them and that would be one of the cliffhangers. If she chose Lex it would be the end of Clana; if she chose Clark Lex would lose his last lifeline saving him from embracing his dark side. If she turned down both it give Lana a new independance while pushing Lex to evil and pushing Clark to gather the courage to be honest with her.

Then again maybe Lana will give up on men entirely and go for Chloe giving me and every other guy out the the Chlana fireside moment we've been dreaming of. :p

shy175223
11-18-2005, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by GhostRider
Then again maybe Lana will give up on men entirely and go for Chloe giving me and every other guy out the the Chlana fireside moment we've been dreaming of. :p

:lol: :rotfl: Oh really that would be something to see.;) It would be kind like Clark having one of his hallcination fits from SK.

umm
11-18-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Dudewheresmycar
:lol: Umm you kill me!

And that´s me when I am in a good mood! You should see me doing the verbal judo when I am real mad! Let´s just say Cordy (Angel) is nothing compared to me!;) :lol:

No-El
11-18-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by GhostRider
Lana starts out with Clark, but who's to say that relationship will survive till the end of the season? Because, once again, he's not going to be honest with her. How long are they going to last? Will they last?

You see he's not really giving anything away, maybe it'll last til the end of the season, maybe not. He's being cagey because he doesn't want to give away what's really going to happen. If I had to venture a guess, Lex will be making a play for Lana all season and with Clark being dishonest she's really going to be confused. At the end of the season she may have to choose between them and that would be one of the cliffhangers. If she chose Lex it would be the end of Clana; if she chose Clark Lex would lose his last lifeline saving him from embracing his dark side. If she turned down both it give Lana a new independance while pushing Lex to evil and pushing Clark to gather the courage to be honest with her.

Then again maybe Lana will give up on men entirely and go for Chloe giving me and every other guy out the the Chlana fireside moment we've been dreaming of. :p


Yeah, right!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

umm
11-18-2005, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by GhostRider
Lana starts out with Clark, but who's to say that relationship will survive till the end of the season? Because, once again, he's not going to be honest with her. How long are they going to last? Will they last?

You see he's not really giving anything away, maybe it'll last til the end of the season, maybe not. He's being cagey because he doesn't want to give away what's really going to happen. If I had to venture a guess, Lex will be making a play for Lana all season and with Clark being dishonest she's really going to be confused. At the end of the season she may have to choose between them and that would be one of the cliffhangers. If she chose Lex it would be the end of Clana; if she chose Clark Lex would lose his last lifeline saving him from embracing his dark side. If she turned down both it give Lana a new independance while pushing Lex to evil and pushing Clark to gather the courage to be honest with her.

Then again maybe Lana will give up on men entirely and go for Chloe giving me and every other guy out the the Chlana fireside moment we've been dreaming of. :p


Oh, isn´t that cute! Every guys classic girl/girl fantasy!
Well, in that case, may I suggest then, that you by a years suply of sleeping pills, cos the only place you or any other guy will get any chance to see some Chloe/Lana action, will be in your dreams!;)

smallville_fetish
11-18-2005, 05:00 PM
Lois and Lana sounds like a better possibility. But yeah I'd still sleep on it if I were you and every other guy.

GhostRider
11-18-2005, 05:01 PM
:lol: Chloe did sniff Lana's hair in Visage, of course she was really Tina Greer. And there was Lana sucking on Chloe's neck in Thirst, but then she was a "vampire." Who knows what's next??? Oh well, maybe Lois will do it, she seems to be up for anything.

umm
11-18-2005, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by smallville_fetish
Lois and Lana sounds like a better possibility. But yeah I'd still sleep on it if I were you and every other guy.

Four L´s? Yeah, I guess Clark or Lex would really go for that! Both are brunette, both have initials L.L, both have currently none or little purpose in life....

slave2moonlight
11-18-2005, 05:54 PM
Just my take on all this relationship stuff:

First, I wouldn't put it past the PTB to make ANYTHING happen in this show. I LOVE this show, it's the only show I NEVER miss, but sometimes I think they make bad choices, especially in messing with general Superman canon. Still, it's a great show.

I love Lana, though she can be annoying sometimes in these later seasons, especially when she's in a b**chy mood. She's gorgeous when she's pink Lana, but when she's black Lana it just doesn't work for me. Still, I don't feel Clark and Lana are in love. To me, with their lack of respect/trust for each other, I feel their relationship is nothing more than extremely powerful lust that is not being allowed to grow into anything more or simply cannot. Hey, most relationships ARE like that, but I don't consider that a good thing. I don't see it as true love. However, when you're in such a relationship, it can seem like true love if your hormones are stronger than your heart. I feel Clark WANTS to be in love with Lana, because she turns him on SOOOOOO much. How Lana truly feels about Clark I'm not sure, but it's probably the same. We know they will not stay together, and I DO feel that that means they are not in "true" love, unless one of them dies, which wouldn't follow canon very well.

In my opinion, for people to form a lasting relationship they need two things: A: To be best friends. And B: to have a STRONG physical attraction. From what I've seen, both are necessary. Don't get me wrong, one can bring about the other. You can start being physically turned on by someone you weren't before, simply by getting to know what a wonderful person they are. I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet for Clark in regards to Chloe, since she's not exactly hideous. Also, you can start off with just the physical attraction that can develop into something more. Unfortunately, this is what most people rely on more often, and it usually doesn't work out because hotties often turn out to be jerks, ha. That having been said...

It would be nice if Clark got together with Chloe, as long as he broke up with Lana first. Frankly, I wish Clark and Lana hadn't gotten back together, though I suppose they needed to resolve some issues before they completely ended that (though I think the makers just wanted them to "do it"). The one problem I see with Clark getting together with Chloe is how similar she is to future Lois. Not a carbon copy, but similar. If he gets together with Chloe, what will happen to end it? I don't see why they would break up, and if they would, it wouldn't bode well for the Lois/Clark relationship. What's more likely? Choe's death. That wouldn't be too good either. Then what? Clark gets with Lois because she reminds him of Chloe? That's not too good either. I think Clark ends up with Lois because she's sort of a combination of what he likes in Chloe and Lana, along with her own quirks thrown in that sort of turn Clark on in a weird, sisterly way.

Was the fireside scene romantic? Unquestionably. Yes, it was an understandable situation, but it's also a dark fireside with a dog and a blanket and cocoa, and that's unavoidably romantic with someone of the opposite sex who is attractive and not a relative. Now, that doesn't mean Clark saw it that way. He might have been thinking, "I wish this was Lana here with me," who knows? It's quite possible that Clark is not physically attracted to Chloe in the least. We all have different tastes, and it would seem that that has been the only thing keeping them appart over the years. Nevertheless, it's not a great situation to be in when you have a girlfriend. Those sudden realizations or urges could wake up just at that wrong moment, especially if you're not truly in love with your current girlfriend. Part of the reason people cheat when they never expected to is that they give themselves too much credit for being able to overcome their physical urges. Some situations, like fireside privacy with another woman, should be avoided out of respect to your significant other at the very least. But, again, it was understandable how this situation came about, and it's just unfortunate. If Clark felt nothing there, Chloe SURELY did. There is only one way to completely get over someone you wanted, and that's to find someone you want more. Chloe hasn't done that, and since it's SUPERMAN she has to get over, she might not ever be able to. But, one thing is for sure, she'd have better luck if she'd stop hanging around Clark so much. She is still devoted to him, and as long as she's around him, will always want him. That's why such a friendship shouldn't be encouraged. I mean, those friendships where one person secretly wants the other. That person, in this case Chloe, will NEVER be able to move on if they don't literally move on. In reality, you can't JUST BE FRIENDS with someone you wanted without continuing to want that person, and if it's never going to happen, well, then it's not very good for you, because you're just going to be lonely forever thinking about that one you still want but can't have. I've seen it many times. You just gotta get away from that person. I hate to say Chloe needs to stop being friends with Clark, but if that boy doesn't decide he wants to be with her, she's going to have to leave his side if she doesn't truly always want to be a "third wheel" with teary eyes. She does deserve better than that.

What SHOULD happen? If this were the real world, I'd say Clark should end his "going nowhere" relationship with Lana and get with Chloe, but not if he truly isn't into her as more than a friend. If that's the case, they need to go their separate ways so that SHE can move on. Clark still needs to break-up with Lana though and find someone he can be as close to as he is with Chloe (and he never should have slept with her). Whether or not he was "forced" to be honest with Chloe, he has always been closer to her than to Lana. I sincerely think the only problem between Chloe and Clark is that she doesn't "rev his engine," but that's problem enough if it STILL hasn't happened after last night. She was revving my engine there, and in the past she was always last on my Smallville girl list (hot and sweet, but still numero 3, despite my affinity for small blondes).

As for on the actual show, we know he eventually ends up with Lois, so he really needs to just break up with Lana and either stay single until Lois, or do some pointless dating with misc. girls to keep that element of the show alive. Though, I've never supported pointless dating myself, and that might make the show too much like "Super-Boy Meets World."

Kryptonian Snake
11-18-2005, 07:00 PM
It was definitely a nice scene, but I don't see the romantic undertones that others have. After watching the first three seasons on DVD, it seems the writers did a good job of establishing the fact that Clark isn't romantically interested in Chloe. If the writers decided to have Clark change his mind in that regard, I'd have a hard time suspending my disbelief to swallow that pill.

Dr. Frank N Furter
11-18-2005, 07:05 PM
I think that Clark does have an attraction to Chloe, I mean come on she's a really beautiful girl, but it is sort of blocked out because he has his Lana blinders on all the time. I have wanted Chlark to happen for a long time but I kind of think it wont and if not I really think TPTB should have Chloe move on and be with someone that really deserves her.

Goobs
11-18-2005, 07:17 PM
yeah all i could think of was...

OMG. DID WE JUST HAVE A CHLARK FIRE SCENE?!?

and I also remember the thought.
"Jeeze would you two just jump on eachother already?"

I mean c'mon tptb have you seen how close they have gotten?
The chemistry is practically blinding me.

:awaits the clana break up patiently:

Goobs

ferd
11-18-2005, 07:19 PM
I squealed like a little baby monkey when I saw Chloe curled up by the fire with Shelby, and then Clark coming in to sit by her. Finally a moment of substance between the two characters that truly understand eachother. I will happily take their deep conversation as friends, over shallow blinky eyed moments in the barn loft watching the sunset *yawn*. Chloe's a whole lot more than the girl next door, and I certainly hope Clark begins to appreciate the gift he has in Chloe.

Goobs
11-18-2005, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by umm
We will all just have to wait and see!
Like I said on another thread, Clana on Smallville for more than one season, let´s just say, God, I can´t even finish the sentence, the mere possiblity of that is debilitating!

did i tell you you're one of my fav chlarkers umm :p

God its good to have you around :D


Originally posted by ferd
Chloe's a whole lot more than the girl next door, and I certainly hope Clark begins to appreciate the gift he has in Chloe.

I think hes starting to. Has anyone been watching Clark's lines?

It seems in every epi he cant help but praise Chloe again and again.

Here and there, certainly not suttle but very discrete so that no one would expect it anything more but friendly compliments.

But i think as soon as Clana is out the door ( thank god) we can get him to see the other parts of her that he has only been getting glimpses at during this relationship.

MyOwnSuperhero
11-18-2005, 07:41 PM
I'd just like to mention that as I watched this scene, I cofused my roomates considerably by jumping up onto the couch, raising a victorious fist in the air and shouting "Yes!! Chlaaaaaaarkk!!!!!" And they all stared at me for a minute until one asked "Chlark? WTH is a Chlark?" I then explained the whole naming of relationships to my roomates. As he slowly peiced it all together another roomate said "So Clark and Lana would be Clana?" I promptly slapped his ugly face and told him that Clana was a dirty word.

wallyK
11-18-2005, 07:53 PM
There are two things I will never buy from the show. 1) a Clark -Chloe romance and 2) a Lex - Lana romance. The writers can do what they want, but over the past several seasons, it's been well established that Clark does not have the hots for Chloe, and Lana does not have the hots for Lex. Now that said, if the writers decide to have two of the women get together, I would be open minded.

ferd
11-18-2005, 08:03 PM
I can only half agree with you wallyK. While I wholeheartedly agree that Lexana is a coupling so vile that it makes my internal organs shift in a way that makes me truly question my idea of good and evil. Chlark indeed is a true and real coupling, hinted upon and shown onscreen time and time again. While I will not lay down money about what the future holds, I certainly think TPTB have planted seedlings of Chlarkdom, and I can only hope that spring with come and a hint of love can really bloom between them.

Now, about that girl on girl action--Let me just say from the woman camp I'd be happy to be a fly on the wall for some Clex action--or better yet a willing party to join in on the fun. :p ;) :lol:

MyOwnSuperhero
11-18-2005, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by wallyK
There are two things I will never buy from the show. 1) a Clark -Chloe romance and 2) a Lex - Lana romance. The writers can do what they want, but over the past several seasons, it's been well established that Clark does not have the hots for Chloe, and Lana does not have the hots for Lex. Now that said, if the writers decide to have two of the women get together, I would be open minded. I'm going to have to disagree with both of these. Chlark has actually happened, and has been hinted at and danced around since the pilot. Chloe's half of the equation has never gone away, and neither has Clark's mindless Lana-lust. Plus, Clark has always dived into relationships with any girl who knew his secret, even a certain certified homicidal maniac named Alicia. Now that Clark knows that Chloe knows, it would actually be contrary to Clark's established character to NOT start falling for her. Once Clana falls apart for good, Chlark is a viable possibility.

Lexana is another one that's had plenty of groundwork laid. There were strong Lexana leanings as far back as late season 3. And if Lana and Clark break up over honesty while Lex opens up to her, it makes sense that she would go for it. Remember, Lana's taste in men seems to tend toward the evil (Adam, Jason, etc.).

Frankly, the only ship that I have difficulty swallowing is Clana!:lol:

jaime,oburg
11-18-2005, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by tmkfan


... Clark is getting way too close to that girl. [/B]

Yeah Clark baby keep inching your way to the girl you can be yourself around.

Mmmm.. more Chlarky goodness!:)


Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
When I saw the Clark and Chloe Fireside Moment, I absolutely thought this is Crack Cocaine to the Chlarkers. They will be the best of friends, but ...... (I should not rain on your parade)....never mind.

Give me another hit Jimmy:lol:

Chlark828
11-18-2005, 08:26 PM
idk, personally i loved it. I'm prayinggg that Clark will get over Lana and be with Chloe...really..truly i am. I love Chlark and that scene was like, the best ever. It DEFINETLY made my night. :DI was jumping up and down just at the fact that they'd actually sit there nice and cozy next to the fire just talking instead of doing investigative reporting and stuff.

liana
11-18-2005, 08:29 PM
I've finally watched the episode and I must say I got no romantic vibes on that scene. In my opinion what they wanted to show is a beautifull friendship between two people. I'm not especially a clana fan, though I'm not against it either. I would have prefered if it was played before, but as long as don't stress too much in clana sex scenes (sorry I didn't like that in Mortal) they can even be cute together. But, even though I'm not a clana fan, I still don't like cheating. Maybe it's because I'm a girl, but I'm not comfortable with that. So, I'm happy there wasn't anything at all between them.

Regarding chlark, I'm not sure, but wasn't there an interview about Lexmas where Alison Mack said that even if Chloe loved Clark forever she would never get him? At least I was under the impression she said something like that. I used to wish for Chloe and Clark to get together, but ever since clana sex happened it changed all the dynamics of any possible romantic relationship for Clark. Now, if he ever get involved with any girl, Chloe included, it will have the sex issue around it. I must say that, unless some of you are right and Chloe magically becomes Lois, it would make me extremely uncomfortable to see a sexual/romantic relationship between Lois's cousin and her future husband. Yikes! That's one of the things clana sex ruined for me. Before it, I could see a romantic non sexual relationship between Chloe and Clark, and be ok with it. But now... Please don't go there.

smallville_fetish
11-18-2005, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by wallyK
There are two things I will never buy from the show. 1) a Clark -Chloe romance and 2) a Lex - Lana romance. The writers can do what they want, but over the past several seasons, it's been well established that Clark does not have the hots for Chloe, and Lana does not have the hots for Lex. Now that said, if the writers decide to have two of the women get together, I would be open minded.

I completely agree with this. I would've brought this up if wallyK hadn't cuz I couldn't have said it better myself. Clark and Chloe are best friends nothing more. The only vibes going around are obviously coming from Chloe because she has feelings for him.

I see what all you are saying about how attractive and beautiful Chloe is and arn't all the Smallville women happen to be ALL attractive and beautiful? I don't think Clark is shallow but if he is, what difference would it make if Chloe was the most prettiest in Smallville?

Just because you find someone physically attractive doesn't mean you're attracted to them. I have a few hottie male friends who also happen to be my type but I still see them as just friends. While I also have some other friends who may not seem visually appealing and hott to you but I see them as equally beautiful people. Once you get to know someone for more than just their appearance, it really doesn't matter if they truely are the most gorgeous person in the world or not because in your eyes they are anyway. Clark probably does think Chloe's beautiful, but it's not the same beautiful he sees in Lana.

Maybe this has to do with his taste, type (though I don't think so because he also liked Alicia and her and Lana are entire different in appearance and personality) but there's just something about Lana that pulls him in and that is the girl he's in love with. He loves Chloe too but he's not really IN love with her. You can't really say he's blinded by Lana and doesn't realize he has feelings for Chloe because he DID go out with Chloe before didn't he? (even for a day) It didn't work. How many times has he kissed Chloe? Or more like Chloe kissed him and makes him feel akward? (Red K doesn't count) he doesn't kiss Chloe the same way he kisses Lana. It's just how it is. It wouldn't make sense for him to break up with Lana and hit it with Chloe (Like he did in season1 when he gave up on Lana and hooked up with Chloe even thought his mind was still with Lana and that's how it always was) The writers have always played it like this.

MartaDolo
11-19-2005, 03:37 AM
I think hes starting to. Has anyone been watching Clark's lines?

It seems in every epi he cant help but praise Chloe again and again.

I agree. I don't think the fireplace was supposed to be textually romantic, but there was a subtext of romantic seedlings there. Clark has given Chloe credit several times this season, and that's not something we normally see. I can't see I fully believe anything will happen there, but I do believe Clark's eyes are opening when it comes to her. Whereas last season we saw Chloe observing Clark once she learned about his abilities, this season we're seeing Clark see just how truly special Chloe is. That it's happening as Clark becomes more honest with her, that the dynamic between them becomes more of an equal partnerhsip, wraps their relationship up in a big blanket of warmfuzzies.

I do, however, believe the Clana is gonna end a fiery death, with or without Chlark and Lexana. Break out the marshmallows!

luuke
11-19-2005, 03:45 AM
furthermore, what he basically did in this scene was stating that Chloe has virtually every human trait, which Brainiac denied them...

He even trusted her more than his parents, by telling her about the deal with Jor El way before telling them...

I´m sorry, but in my opinion she is the most important person in his life right now..

MartaDolo
11-19-2005, 04:07 AM
Oh, definitely. He's always needed her as a friend, ever since the beginning. But now she's vital to his getting through life. At this point, at least. This season's one of big changes for Clark, and Chloe's the rock that will get him through it.

I do wonder if they're building up to a scene where it really hits Clark just how much she means to him. I only say that because they seem to have established that the ones Clark loves the most are his parents and Lana, and yet they've established that Chloe is currently the person who knows Clark the best. I just wonder if there will be some payoff in that regard.

jaime,oburg
11-19-2005, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by MartaDolo
Oh, definitely. He's always needed her as a friend, ever since the beginning. But now she's vital to his getting through life. At this point, at least. This season's one of big changes for Clark, and Chloe's the rock that will get him through it.

I do wonder if they're building up to a scene where it really hits Clark just how much she means to him. I only say that because they seem to have established that the ones Clark loves the most are his parents and Lana, and yet they've established that Chloe is currently the person who knows Clark the best. I just wonder if there will be some payoff in that regard.

Extactly. I guess this is why I never bought into Clana. Clark's love for Lana has always been more of an obsession. Someone he admired from a far, someone out of his league, his dream girl that he was able to finally get what he desired.
Chloe's love comes about from that she knows, accepts and supports him unconditionally despite the fact she never receives anything in return. That is true love.
Loving someone even though they don't feel the same. Her love grew from friendship. The best way to evolve into something more. Not I finally got the object of my desire. Hooray!
Yeah I think the writers are finally showing Clark understands the depth of Chloe's love for her friend. Clark is not taking that for granted anymore and it is eye opening. Giving her all the compliments.... shows he is not such a BDA anymore regardless of what he may be feeling for her at this moment in his life.

BizzaroJerry
11-19-2005, 08:10 AM
You know guys,

If you could describe in words how big my ship is for the Chlark, think of names like the USS Iowa or Titanic would just begin to describe it...

But after reading 9 pages of our pining on this forum, on some level I just feel sick, could this feeling that I am experiencing bring me closer to understanding what must be going in Chloe’s mind whenever she has a quite tender moment with him, or perhaps that 'time-stands still feeling" that occurs when someone who knows all about Clark uniqueness witness him using the full spectrum of his powers while at the same time sacrificing HIMSELF to save her.

You know I have just realised something , ever since Chloe has learned the big secret, has Clark actually saved her in a way where he put himself in danger while at the same time her witnessing this feat of sacrifice, I remember one I think, where that memory wiping guy wiped, Chloe’s, Lois’s and the Sheriff's minds.

You know, on some deeper level that was a really intimate save, looking right into her eye's, face to face, while putting himself on the line not knowing what that memory wiping beam would do to him, but at the same time not even considering it, putting everything on the line just to save Chloe, if that doesn’t get a girl hot for the guy, nothing ever would.. And perhaps it might just do something for the guy as well ;-)

How convenient, that they all got their minds wiped, so the save never happened?

Oh dam I’m feeling sick again, right to the pit of my stomach....

Wait a sec, let me check the use by date on the milk I just drank..... ;-)

Regards

BizzaroJerry

PS, Maybe their waiting for a REALLY POWERFUL situation / save to occur ala spidermen 2 where she sees good old spidey going all out to save the woman he loves. Which triggers the next stage of there development.

No-El
11-19-2005, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by BizzaroJerry
You know guys,

If you could describe in words how big my ship is for the Chlark, think of names like the USS Iowa or Titanic would just begin to describe it...

But after reading 9 pages of our pining on this forum, on some level I just feel sick, could this feeling that I am experiencing bring me closer to understanding what must be going in Chloe’s mind whenever she has a quite tender moment with him, or perhaps that 'time-stands still feeling" that occurs when someone who knows all about Clark uniqueness witness him using the full spectrum of his powers while at the same time sacrificing HIMSELF to save her.

You know I have just realised something , ever since Chloe has learned the big secret, has Clark actually saved her in a way where he put himself in danger while at the same time her witnessing this feat of sacrifice, I remember one I think, where that memory wiping guy wiped, Chloe’s, Lois’s and the Sheriff's minds.

You know, on some deeper level that was a really intimate save, looking right into her eye's, face to face, while putting himself on the line not knowing what that memory wiping beam would do to him, but at the same time not even considering it, putting everything on the line just to save Chloe, if that doesn’t get a girl hot for the guy, nothing ever would.. And perhaps it might just do something for the guy as well ;-)

How convenient, that they all got their minds wiped, so the save never happened?

Oh dam I’m feeling sick again, right to the pit of my stomach....

Wait a sec, let me check the use by date on the milk I just drank..... ;-)

Regards

BizzaroJerry

PS, Maybe their waiting for a REALLY POWERFUL situation / save to occur ala spidermen 2 where she sees good old spidey going all out to save the woman he loves. Which triggers the next stage of there development.





You know, I feel for you and empathize!!:( :( :( :( :(

The thing is, Al Gough and the writers are deliberately giving us these tender rescues and scenes between Chloe and Clark since the beginnning and in my estimation they know what they are giving us fans of the Chlark!!

I am positive that the points you mentioned did not go unaddressed in their monthly/yearly committee meetings on how to treat these two characters---Chloe and Clark!!

The character Lana Lang is always in Al Gough's mind----center stage and he has indicated it will end; but none of us knows when but just to speculate----this season!!

The hope (without evidence) is that maybe when the Big Split comes for Lana/Clark, Chloe will be his next girlfriend as the final transition to Lois.

mkitty3
11-19-2005, 11:22 AM
The argument that Clark has no physical attraction for Chloe is just not true. The end of season one was all about Clark realizing that he had feelings for Chloe beyond friendship. It was Chloe who put a stop to it because she knew regardless of his attraction for her, he would still love Lana as well if not more. In Red, he isn't just x-raying Lana under her clothes, he's checking Chloe out too. Also in Rush we have Clark practically getting it on with Chloe for everyone to see. Granted he was on RedK both times, but that just lowers Clark's inhibitions and the longer he's on it the darker he gets. He had only been on the RedK for a few hours tops at that point. Clark learned the hardway to not lead Chloe on, hence his pulling back when she was coming on strong in Devoted. It doesn't mean he was sickened by her advances, just that he knew it wasn't right to take advantage of that moment. I think he's also clearly attracted to Lois. The boy isn't blind. Does that make his love for Lana any less? No.

I'm not sure he's feeling anything romantic toward Chloe at this point, because I do think he's fully committed to trying to make it work with Lana. However, I think he's beginning to see Chloe in a whole new light. What that means for the future, I don't know.

No-El
11-19-2005, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by mkitty3
The argument that Clark has no physical attraction for Chloe is just not true. The end of season one was all about Clark realizing that he had feelings for Chloe beyond friendship. It was Chloe who put a stop to it because she knew regardless of his attraction for her, he would still love Lana as well if not more. In Red, he isn't just x-raying Lana under her clothes, he's checking Chloe out too. Also in Rush we have Clark practically getting it on with Chloe for everyone to see. Granted he was on RedK both times, but that just lowers Clark's inhibitions and the longer he's on it the darker he gets. He had only been on the RedK for a few hours tops at that point. Clark learned the hardway to not lead Chloe on, hence his pulling back when she was coming on strong in Devoted. It doesn't mean he was sickened by her advances, just that he knew it wasn't right to take advantage of that moment. I think he's also clearly attracted to Lois. The boy isn't blind. Does that make his love for Lana any less? No.

I'm not sure he's feeling anything romantic toward Chloe at this point, because I do think he's fully committed to trying to make it work with Lana. However, I think he's beginning to see Chloe in a whole new light. What that means for the future, I don't know.

Well, as a Chloe/Clark fan I really think that the writers are showing these scenes/moments with Chloe and Clark for a reason as part of the story for that particular episode as others and they could be laying the groundwork for some type of future romantic relationship between.:p :p :p

Some of hope while other say no way!

MyOwnSuperhero
11-19-2005, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by mkitty3
The argument that Clark has no physical attraction for Chloe is just not true. The end of season one was all about Clark realizing that he had feelings for Chloe beyond friendship. It was Chloe who put a stop to it because she knew regardless of his attraction for her, he would still love Lana as well if not more. In Red, he isn't just x-raying Lana under her clothes, he's checking Chloe out too. Also in Rush we have Clark practically getting it on with Chloe for everyone to see. Granted he was on RedK both times, but that just lowers Clark's inhibitions and the longer he's on it the darker he gets. He had only been on the RedK for a few hours tops at that point. Clark learned the hardway to not lead Chloe on, hence his pulling back when she was coming on strong in Devoted. It doesn't mean he was sickened by her advances, just that he knew it wasn't right to take advantage of that moment. I think he's also clearly attracted to Lois. The boy isn't blind. Does that make his love for Lana any less? No.

I'm not sure he's feeling anything romantic toward Chloe at this point, because I do think he's fully committed to trying to make it work with Lana. However, I think he's beginning to see Chloe in a whole new light. What that means for the future, I don't know. EXACTLY!!! If Clark remains true to form, then he's developped feelings for Chloe on the sole basis that she knows his secret andd he can trust her. He ALWAYS falls for the girls he can be honest with. Additionally, in the past, he's considered a relationship with her. If the past four seasons are any indicator, the only thing preventing Chlark is Clana, as usual. This has been the case since the Pilot. However, the Clana must end sometime, and the way they're building the lies and the tension between Clark and Lana, I think that split will be soon.

Ketchup
11-19-2005, 11:45 AM
Maybe Chlo will be Clark's friend... with benifits ;)

supergurl88
11-19-2005, 12:00 PM
man, i wish chloe and clark kiss at that fireplace scene...it would have been soo cute, by-the-way where's Lana?

luuke
11-19-2005, 12:06 PM
as tempting the thought of a kiss seems, it would had destroyed everything they built in the last years.. i can wait.. there is at least another season ahead.. feels like enough time for chlark to me ;)

cotton candy girl
11-19-2005, 12:11 PM
What if TPTB are just trying to appease and tease Chlark fans? Because if Chloe buys the farm soon, I have a feeling Chlark people won't be so happy. You know everyone who knows the secret besides mom and dad have had to go away. Maybe Chloe will be no exception.

Watching Smallville
11-19-2005, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by MyOwnSuperhero
If the past four seasons are any indicator, the only thing preventing Chlark is Clana, as usual. This has been the case since the Pilot. However, the Clana must end sometime, and the way they're building the lies and the tension between Clark and Lana, I think that split will be soon.

The thing that's interesting about the way Clark reacts to Chloe is that Clana has not prevented him from having relationships with other women, such as Kyla and Alicia. I'm wondering, these were Meteor Freaks (no insult there, I liked both of those characters), so maybe that's part of the chemistry. Who knows. He obviously cares about Chloe, respects her, likes her, admires her. He's just not in love with her.

No-El
11-19-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by MyOwnSuperhero
EXACTLY!!! If Clark remains true to form, then he's developped feelings for Chloe on the sole basis that she knows his secret andd he can trust her. He ALWAYS falls for the girls he can be honest with. Additionally, in the past, he's considered a relationship with her. If the past four seasons are any indicator, the only thing preventing Chlark is Clana, as usual. This has been the case since the Pilot. However, the Clana must end sometime, and the way they're building the lies and the tension between Clark and Lana, I think that split will be soon.


Yes, Clana will split---the lies will play a part, that is definite from Al Gough's interview (no definite indication of WHEN).

Also Al Gough said this Season 5 will see "Chloe and Clark become better friends"! Nothing said or hinted beyond that about a Chlark romance----just "better friends"!:cool:

mkitty3
11-19-2005, 01:44 PM
The thing that's interesting about the way Clark reacts to Chloe is that Clana has not prevented him from having relationships with other women, such as Kyla and Alicia. I'm wondering, these were Meteor Freaks (no insult there, I liked both of those characters), so maybe that's part of the chemistry. Who knows. He obviously cares about Chloe, respects her, likes her, admires her. He's just not in love with her.

The reason he latched onto Kyla and Alicia so quickly is because he felt he could be honest with them. He mentioned that to Lex about Kyla and he mentioned that to his parents in regards to Alicia. Interestingly enough, now Chloe is the one person he feels he can be honest with. So that should speak volumns about what may be developing between he and Chloe.

I seriously doubt Chloe is going to die within the next three episodes as perhaps some Clana fans are hoping. The Daily Planet set was a very expensive set to build, they would have no use for it if Chloe dies now. Despite Lois's slight interest in journalism in Solitude, she won't be able to take over the investigative reporter reins within the next three episodes. They need Chloe to bring Clark into whatever mysteries they need solved and deliver the needed exposistion. Does that mean she is safe until the very end of the series? Unlikely, but I really don't think she is going to bite it in the big 100th.

Old Juan
11-19-2005, 02:17 PM
It was a very sweet scene that showed the closeness between the two characters.

As for the Clana fans throwing fits over it, well I don't understand what the problem is? There wasn't any hanky-panky going on between the two so Clark was not in any way cheating on Lana by sharing this tender moment with Chloe.

MyOwnSuperhero
11-19-2005, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
The thing that's interesting about the way Clark reacts to Chloe is that Clana has not prevented him from having relationships with other women, such as Kyla and Alicia. I'm wondering, these were Meteor Freaks (no insult there, I liked both of those characters), so maybe that's part of the chemistry. Who knows. He obviously cares about Chloe, respects her, likes her, admires her. He's just not in love with her. The thing to remember with instances like Kyla and Alicia is that the Clana wasn't a solid relationship at the time, it was in a state of angsty flux. Right now, the Clana is a real relationship, which changes the situation.

In the past, Clark was still concerned with any relationship where he had to lie. That's why he rushed into those others so quickly. At the time, Chloe was in the dark, so the trust issues prevented a relationship. That too is gone now that she knows.

Additionally, Clark has considered the idea of a relationship with Chloe well before she learned his secret. The combination of past inclination with a newfound trust, it makes a lot of sense. Once the Clana break up occurs, there are only a few viable ship options for Clark.
- Angsty mooning over Clana, even though they've broken up
- Lonely Clark, with no one
- Clark hooks up with someone else (it's either Chloe or Lois, and it probably won't be Lois just yet)
- A new character is introduced as a love interest (ie Kyla, Alicia, etc.)

Given those options, and the current situation, Chlark makes a lot of sense, if only from a writing and casting standpoint.

Watching Smallville
11-19-2005, 02:37 PM
Yes, all your points make sense.

I have always thought that Chlark would be the death knell for Chloe. Unless they explore the disease that her mother had. Either way, we know Chlark won't last in the long run, just as Clana won't. Man, tihs story really is a tragedy.:(

luuke
11-19-2005, 03:01 PM
it all depends whether we get (at least) a 6th season or not.. because it´s all a matter of time..

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 03:11 PM
The argument that Clark has no physical attraction for Chloe is just not true. The end of season one was all about Clark realizing that he had feelings for Chloe beyond friendship. It was Chloe who put a stop to it because she knew regardless of his attraction for her, he would still love Lana as well if not more. In Red, he isn't just x-raying Lana under her clothes, he's checking Chloe out too. Also in Rush we have Clark practically getting it on with Chloe for everyone to see. Granted he was on RedK both times, but that just lowers Clark's inhibitions and the longer he's on it the darker he gets. He had only been on the RedK for a few hours tops at that point. Clark learned the hardway to not lead Chloe on, hence his pulling back when she was coming on strong in Devoted. It doesn't mean he was sickened by her advances, just that he knew it wasn't right to take advantage of that moment. I think he's also clearly attracted to Lois. The boy isn't blind. Does that make his love for Lana any less? No.

Oh yeah, season 1, when he felt attracted to chloe for what? A week, just look at his reaction her saying they should just stay friends. That says it all, maybe he does find her hott, i won't argue you that. Secondly, this a point i think everyone misses, RedK Clark WANTS EVERY GIRL WHO'S SEMI-HOTT TO HOTT. He's horny, i think is the best word to describe Kal. He's like a regular guy, with the exception that he can get any girl he wants. Clark just doesn't feel for Chloe, he felt for Alicia, Kyla and he loves Lana. You can say he finds Chloe attractive and the same for Lois, any guy would be blind not to, as you clearly stated. However if he doesn't feel it for Chloe.

ma200
11-19-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
He's like a regular guy, with the exception that he can get any girl he wants.

Except Lois...it'll take forever for him to get her.

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 03:18 PM
True, but still, if he played it right. Maybe......:lol: I just realized that kal is the man:D

ma200
11-19-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
True, but still, if he played it right. Maybe......:lol: I just realized that kal is the man:D

Well, she's not the kind of girl that would give in right away like Chloe, Lana and Alicia. She's the kinda chick that would get any guy to crawl on his ass to beg for a date...that is, if they think it's worth the effort. Since we all know what happens in the future, Clark would have to do all that...whether or not he unleashes his inner ID.

smallville_fetish
11-19-2005, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh yeah, season 1, when he felt attracted to chloe for what? A week, just look at his reaction her saying they should just stay friends.

Clark just doesn't feel for Chloe, he felt for Alicia, Kyla and he loves Lana. You can say he finds Chloe attractive and the same for Lois, any guy would be blind not to, as you clearly stated. However if he doesn't feel it for Chloe.

Exactly. Let's put it in this simplicity:
If Lana was white.
And Lois is black.
Then Chloe is grey right?

Because Chloe is a mixture of the two; Lana who's sweet and timid (white) and Lois who's fiesty and independant (black) And Chloe is a composed mixture of those qualities but Clark still doesn't find grey appealing TO HIM. Grey may look nice, and look nice on him because he's confrontable with that color, but that doesn't necessary mean he'll relish it like the color white and later on black (which he still finds disgusting at the moment) Of course you can complicate this even more but Clark likes either black or white, no in between.

And you can call him stupid for that because you absolutely love grey but Clark doesn't and he can't help it even if he finds nothing wrong with that color, it's just how he feels.

No-El
11-19-2005, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Yes, all your points make sense.

I have always thought that Chlark would be the death knell for Chloe. Unless they explore the disease that her mother had. Either way, we know Chlark won't last in the long run, just as Clana won't. Man, tihs story really is a tragedy.:(


Yes, just like Big Al said----tragic!:( :(

But, they try to make it riveting they can with all these new situations and the story lines so far this season with the continuity appear far better than previous seasons.

I believe Al/Miles said they were confident that this will be a great season for most of the characters.

But, you are correct about Chlark, that's why I think the Chloe/Clark relationship if they do---will be transitional to the eventual Lois/Clark.

Noting that Al/Miles said there will be no Lois and Clark closeness in this series just the playful familiarity between them nothing more.

Christine C
11-19-2005, 05:39 PM
Clark seems to see Chole as only a friend, thats it. He loves Lana too much to reveal who he is to her. The dumb thing is, Clark shares this huge secret with Chole. She's there for him, and would die before she told someone about his abilities and yet Clark still has no more feelings for her, or does he? It would only make sense that he would eventually. I hope the writers can at least show this with the Clark/ Chole reationship. Chole's never really had a boy friend because she's been stuck on Clark Kent.
They should at least give her someone to put things into perpective for Cark. What about Jimmy Olson? I think it would be great to see a episode with Him, Chole and Clark.

ma200
11-19-2005, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by smallville_fetish
Exactly. Let's put it in this simplicity:
If Lana was white.
And Lois is black.
Then Chloe is grey right?

Because Chloe is a mixture of the two; Lana who's sweet and timid (white) and Lois who's fiesty and independant (black) And Chloe is a composed mixture of those qualities but Clark still doesn't find grey appealing TO HIM. Grey may look nice, and look nice on him because he's confrontable with that color, but that doesn't necessary mean he'll relish it like the color white and later on black (which he still finds disgusting at the moment) Of course you can complicate this even more but Clark likes either black or white, no in between.

And you can call him stupid for that because you absolutely love grey but Clark doesn't and he can't help it even if he finds nothing wrong with that color, it's just how he feels.

Does anyone remember Spirit? Chloe was trying to convince Clark to go to the dance and have fun but he refused. But then when Lois (possessed, of course) asked him, he went with her...

Some people complain that Clark should've danced with Chloe instead of Lana and that Lois should've told him to but really, if he wants to dance with Chloe he would've asked her for a dance. He just doesn't feel it for Chloe.

umm
11-19-2005, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by ma200
Does anyone remember Spirit? Chloe was trying to convince Clark to go to the dance and have fun but he refused. But then when Lois (possessed, of course) asked him, he went with her...

Some people complain that Clark should've danced with Chloe instead of Lana and that Lois should've told him to but really, if he wants to dance with Chloe he would've asked her for a dance. He just doesn't feel it for Chloe.

Lois shouldn´t have meddled, she should have stayed out of it!
It was something between Chloe, Clark and Lana! Granted if Clark didn´t want to dance with Chloe, no one could have forced him, but what Lois did, wasn´t exacly perfect either!

liana
11-19-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by ma200
Does anyone remember Spirit? Chloe was trying to convince Clark to go to the dance and have fun but he refused. But then when Lois (possessed, of course) asked him, he went with her...

Some people complain that Clark should've danced with Chloe instead of Lana and that Lois should've told him to but really, if he wants to dance with Chloe he would've asked her for a dance. He just doesn't feel it for Chloe.

And if this is the case then don't you think the best thing to do would be having Chloe move on? I agree with the black/white/grey analogy. It doesn't really matter what you should do when it comes to love. Maybe Chloe would have been the better choice for Clark, but can anyone choose who he fell for? I know I never could: it just happen and you can't force yourself to fall in love. I don't blame Clark for not loving Chloe. He is to blame for a thousand of things, but this is not one of them.


Lois shouldn´t have meddled, she should have stayed out of it!
It was something between Chloe, Clark and Lana! Granted if Clark didn´t want to dance with Chloe, no one could have forced him, but what Lois did, wasn´t exacly perfect either!

Why? Because she told him to dance with the person he wanted to dance with? She didn't force him to do it she just said: "I'm not the one you want to dance with, Clark. She is." The fact is that Lois loves Chloe and she knows Clark doesn't love her, so she would never push him to dance with Chloe and maybe encourage her feelings towards him. When I see a friend in love with someone who clearly doesn't love her, I will not say to her: "Go on because maybe one of these days he will fall for you." No. I say: "Move on. If he doesn't fall in love with you, it's his loss. You deserve better."

ma200
11-19-2005, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by umm
Lois shouldn´t have meddled, she should have stayed out of it!
It was something between Chloe, Clark and Lana! Granted if Clark didn´t want to dance with Chloe, no one could have forced him, but what Lois did, wasn´t exacly perfect either!

She knew Clark is smitten with Lana and felt that he should dance with her instead and that Chloe is destined for bigger and better things, which is true. Chloe should move on. It's not fair to be with someone who will never love her back.


Originally posted by liana
And if this is the case then don't you think the best thing to do would be having Chloe move on? I agree with the black/white/grey analogy. It doesn't really matter what you should do when it comes to love. Maybe Chloe would have been the better choice for Clark, but can anyone choose who he fell for? I know I never could: it just happen and you can't force yourself to fall in love. I don't blame Clark for not loving Chloe. He is to blame for a thousand of things, but this is not one of them.

I don't know what you're talking about...I was merely backing up what the other poster said...

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 05:55 PM
Yes, exactly, what was said below me is correct. Lois did what was right and what is right in my mind too. Lana is the high school to college love of his life, she should get the dance at the prom. There were a lot of times Clark could have done something with Chloe, but choose not to. Clark just doesn't love her and like liana said, you can't help who you love.

liana
11-19-2005, 05:58 PM
I don't know what you're talking about...I was merely backing up what the other poster said...

I understood that. I was just backing up what you said, and expressing my indignation towards the writers who never let Chloe move on. Sorry, I wasn't flaming at you or anything, just at them. Sorry. :(

ma200
11-19-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by liana
I understood that. I was just backing up what you said, and expressing my indignation towards the writers who never let Chloe move on. Sorry, I wasn't flaming at you or anything, just at them. Sorry. :(

Meh, I'm not offended. I don't get offended easily. I just misunderstood what you said. My bad.

umm
11-19-2005, 06:01 PM
Liana and Ma200,...

While I don´t think there is anything wrong to push Clark to dance with the person he wants, that being Lana, Lois could have also said: ´Clark, go dance with Lana, cos that has been your dream from day 1., but then later on, when you are done, you are going to ask Chloe for a dance, she is your best friend, who has just been crowned Prom Queen, and she should at least have one dance, and who better to dance with her than her best friend! Would that have been to much to ask?

ma200
11-19-2005, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by umm
Liana and Ma200,...

While I don´t think there is anything wrong to push Clark to dance with the person he wants, that being Lana, Lois could have also said: ´Clark, go dance with Lana, cos that has been your dream from day 1., but then later on, when you are done, you are going to ask Chloe for a dance, she is your best friend, who has just been crowned Prom Queen, and she should at least have one dance, and who better to dance with her than her best friend! Would that have been to much to ask?

Because Lois does not want Clark to continue messing with Chloe's head.

CK&CK
11-19-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
Aww, it was too cute! But Clark has a girlfriend, doesn't that look a bit strange? :\

It's funny....because that's what I was thinking.....but to me.....Lana may be his girlfriend.....but Chloe's been his soul mate for a lot longer than Lana has.....this dispite the fact that Clark's known Lana longer. So as soon as that fact hit me, it made it okay. It would have geen nice if Clark had kissed her, but yeah, Lana is technically "the girlfriend".

umm
11-19-2005, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by ma200
Because Lois does not want Clark to continue messing with Chloe's head.

Well, in that case, she should have given her cousin more credit! Chloe is a smart girl, she knows that, that would be a dance between friends and nothing more! Chloe may have been in love with Clark, but she is no idiot, or deluded!

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 06:05 PM
Yes, please let Chloe move on. And Lois did the right thing. It's not right to either chloe or Clark, for lois to tell clark to dance with Chloe. When he wants to dance with Lana. If chloe and clark did dance, Clark's attention would have been on Lana and chloe would have noticed that. Thus making Chloe sad and so forth..

ma200
11-19-2005, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by umm
Well, in that case, she should have given her cousin more credit! Chloe is a smart girl, she knows that, that would be a dance between friends and nothing more! Chloe may have been in love with Clark, but she is no idiot, or deluded!

Chloe still has it bad for him since DAY 1. If Clark dances with her, that would just be fanning the flames. In other words, it would take her much longer to get over him.

If Clark doesn't want to dance with Chloe, he doesn't have to. Lois knows that.


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yes, please let Chloe move on. And Lois did the right thing. It's not right to either chloe or Clark, for lois to tell clark to dance with Chloe. When he wants to dance with Lana. If chloe and clark did dance, Clark's attention would have been on Lana and chloe would have noticed that. Thus making Chloe sad and so forth..

It sux to be the underdog, it truly does. In Chloe's case, she's getting to be quite pathetic. Especially when she ratted out to Lionel based on selfish reasons, one being that Clark didn't tell her that he was dating Lana back in season 2, when it really isn't any of her darn business.

umm
11-19-2005, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by ma200
Chloe still has it bad for him since DAY 1. If Clark dances with her, that would just be fanning the flames. In other words, it would take her much longer to get over him.

If Clark doesn't want to dance with Chloe, he doesn't have to. Lois knows that.

You know what´s pointless? This debate! I am quiting this game! Not because I don´t have any more arguments, but because we could continue for ever debating like this, and we would never be through!:)

liana
11-19-2005, 06:16 PM
In fact, dancing with Chloe should have been Chark's choice. I must say I didn't understand why he asked Lois to dance to begin with. I'm a clois at heart, but at that point, I didn't relly understand why he did it. It would have made more sense to ask Chloe, who is his best friend.

Lois shouldn't ask him to dance with Chloe, because that was not her business. She really doesn't want him around Chloe because she doesn't want her cousin to suffer for him anymore. In her opinion (and mine as well), Chloe has suffered too much for him already. She deserves better.

umm
11-19-2005, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by liana
In fact, dancing with Chloe should have been Chark's choice. I must say I didn't understand why he asked Lois to dance to begin with. I'm a clois at heart, but at that point, I didn't relly understand why he did it. It would have made more sense to ask Chloe, who is his best friend.

Lois shouldn't ask him to dance with Chloe, because that was not her business. She really doesn't want him around Chloe because she doesn't want her cousin to suffer for him anymore. In her opinion (and mine as well), Chloe has suffered too much for him already. She deserves better.

You guys are making it hard for me to quit the game!:) :lol:

I think he asked Lois, because it was the nice thing to do!
She came with him, she was possesed otherwise she wouldn´t have come at all, which he knew.
Maybe for what ever reason he feelt bad that Lois was stuck at an event she didn´t want to attend in the first place, so he wanted to do something nice for her, thus asking her to dance!
I mean it beats standing alone by the punchbowl any day of the weak!

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 06:22 PM
I think he just wanted to give Lois sort of a pity dance, because she never made it to her prom.

ma200
11-19-2005, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by liana
In fact, dancing with Chloe should have been Chark's choice. I must say I didn't understand why he asked Lois to dance to begin with. I'm a clois at heart, but at that point, I didn't relly understand why he did it. It would have made more sense to ask Chloe, who is his best friend.


I don't know. Maybe he asked out of courtesy since he did go to the dance with her or just prefers to dance with her instead of Chloe. Nonetheless, we all know Lana is the number one.

umm
11-19-2005, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I think he just wanted to give Lois sort of a pity dance, because she never made it to her prom.

´Pity dance´
It has such a bad ring to it!:\

ma200
11-19-2005, 06:26 PM
Actually, nevermind...he prefers to dance with Lois rather than Chloe. When Chloe asked him to go to the dance, he didn't go. When Lois did, he did go.

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 06:27 PM
´Pity dance´ It has such a bad ring to it,

That it does.

liana
11-19-2005, 06:29 PM
Probably you guys are right. I'm just mentioning it because it was so strange to me. I mean, right now, after Arrival, Aqua and Exposed, it is kind of clear that they are friends, and I would have understood better. But in Spirit it didn't make sense. Just that. But I hope it wasn't for pity, SmallvilleMan. Ugh! Pity is a terrible thing. I prefer for courtesy. ;)


Actually, nevermind...he prefers to dance with Lois rather than Chloe. When Chloe asked him to go to the dance, he didn't go. When Lois did, he did go.

That's what I didn't get. I wished it would be because he was already totally and hopelesslly atracted to Lois, but at that time it wasn't the case. It really didn't make sense to me.

ma200
11-19-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by liana
Probably you guys are right. I'm just mentioning it because it was so strange to me. I mean, right now, after Arrival, Aqua and Exposed, it is kind of clear that they are friends, and I would have understood better. But in Spirit it didn't make sense. Just that. But I hope it wasn't for pity, SmallvilleMan. Ugh! Pity is a terrible thing. I prefer for courtesy. ;)

All I know is that Lois tells him to do something (possessed or not), he does it. It doesn't always happen for Chloe.

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 06:36 PM
Probably you guys are right. I'm just mentioning it because it was so strange to me. I mean, right now, after Arrival, Aqua and Exposed, it is kind of clear that they are friends, and I would have understood better. But in Spirit it didn't make sense. Just that. But I hope it wasn't for pity, SmallvilleMan. Ugh! Pity is a terrible thing. I prefer for courtesy.

I'll go with courtesy, just for you;) . Lois and Clark are friends, in fact, i think on some days Lois is a better friend than Chloe.

liana
11-19-2005, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by ma200
All I know is that Lois tells him to do something (possessed or not), he does it. It doesn't always happen for Chloe.

Well, in the future Clark always does what Lois tells him to do. I suppose it is the one of the ways the writers choose to foreshadow this.


I'll go with courtesy, just for you .

Oh, thank you very much for that. :)

No-El
11-19-2005, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by umm
´Pity dance´
It has such a bad ring to it!:\


You know it is the falacy of the threads we start, that we get off subject frequently; it's not hard to say AND do get out when one has had enough of off topic debate.:(

Please answer this question for me. Chloe obviously cares for Clark on some level as the writers portray her, hence her involvement in the FOS without which Clark could not have accomplished a victory there.

So, is it strange to offer the kindness that is so typical of being a Kent in that family-----to warm a person who experienced polar temperatures and to discuss the implications of such dangers shared?

This question is directed not only to you but anyone who has the courage to keep in mind what was discussed in front of the fireplace.:) :) :) :)

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 06:38 PM
This question is directed not only to you but anyone who has the courage to keep in mind what was discussed in front of the fireplace

:rotfl: hehehe

liana
11-19-2005, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by No-El
You know it is the falacy of the threads we start, that we get off subject frequently; it's not hard to say AND do get out when one has had enough of off topic debate.:(

Please answer this question for me. Chloe obviously cares for Clark on some level as the writers portray her, hence her involvement in the FOS without which Clark could not have accomplished a victory there.

So, is it strange to offer the kindness that is so typical of being a Kent in that family-----to warm a person who experienced polar temperatures and to discuss the implications of such dangers shared?

This question is directed not only to you but anyone who has the courage to keep in mind what was discussed in front of the fireplace.:) :) :) :)

Sorry for going OT. I don't think it strange at all. They are friends, she saved his life and they were discussing what lies ahead. I see no problem with that.

umm
11-19-2005, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by No-El
You know it is the falacy of the threads we start, that we get off subject frequently; it's not hard to say AND do get out when one has had enough of off topic debate.:(

Please answer this question for me. Chloe obviously cares for Clark on some level as the writers portray her, hence her involvement in the FOS without which Clark could not have accomplished a victory there.

So, is it strange to offer the kindness that is so typical of being a Kent in that family-----to warm a person who experienced polar temperatures and to discuss the implications of such dangers shared?

This question is directed not only to you but anyone who has the courage to keep in mind what was discussed in front of the fireplace.:) :) :) :)

It´s not strange at all, it´s only fitting considering where she has been, once again! They are friends sitting in front of the fireplace and talking while she is warming up! There is nothing wrong with that!

And with that I bid you good night! Time to go to sleap!:)

Kryptonian Snake
11-19-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by No-El
Please answer this question for me. Chloe obviously cares for Clark on some level as the writers portray her, hence her involvement in the FOS without which Clark could not have accomplished a victory there.

So, is it strange to offer the kindness that is so typical of being a Kent in that family-----to warm a person who experienced polar temperatures and to discuss the implications of such dangers shared?

This question is directed not only to you but anyone who has the courage to keep in mind what was discussed in front of the fireplace.:) :) :) :)

It isn't strange at all. That's exactly how I interpreted the scene.

smallville_fetish
11-19-2005, 06:54 PM
Just one quick thing about the Spirit. It was right Chloe and Clark didn't dance together at prom because that was the moment in time when she made a choice to move on with Clark. At that moment, looking at Clark and Lana, that was when she decided to let go. She saw how those two were looking at each other and how happy they'd be together. She sighed and knew she wanted Clark to be happy and like Lois said, she's destined for bigger and better things and Lois clearly pointed that out by not letting Chloe dance with him. Even Lois didn't dance with him!

Remember in Splinter when Chloe and Clark had a hug scene when she said said she'd never betray her. You didn't see Clark's face because he was just taking in that sweet moment where he was thankful he had a friend like Chloe to help him through everything he's going through. That was a thank you hug. A thanks-for-being-there-for-me and I-don't-know-what-I'd do-without-you type hug. But you see Chloe's face and she has that look like she's thinking I'm-happy-your-my-best-friend-but-I'm-sad-that's-all-you'll-ever-see-me-as kind of look. The way she hugged Clark, I was feeling for her and I was feeling sad cuz she deserves someone to return her feelings too. That hug was more deep to her than it was for Clark so imagine what a dance at the prom would be like to her!

So with that, back to this thread about the fire scene. I'm pretty sure it's similar to the hug in Splinter. Where Clark sits by Chloe at the fire place and is thankful to God that he has someone as loyal, trusting and caring as Chloe in his life. He even jokes about how wrong Brainic was about humans. That's it. That's all he got from the scene but with Chloe, it's probably the same feeling she had with the hug. That she's glad Clark trustes her but she's sad that he won't have feelings for her.

mkitty3
11-19-2005, 08:16 PM
originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh yeah, season 1, when he felt attracted to chloe for what? A week, just look at his reaction her saying they should just stay friends. That says it all, maybe he does find her hott, i won't argue you that. Secondly, this a point i think everyone misses, RedK Clark WANTS EVERY GIRL WHO'S SEMI-HOTT TO HOTT. He's horny, i think is the best word to describe Kal. He's like a regular guy, with the exception that he can get any girl he wants. Clark just doesn't feel for Chloe, he felt for Alicia, Kyla and he loves Lana. You can say he finds Chloe attractive and the same for Lois, any guy would be blind not to, as you clearly stated. However if he doesn't feel it for Chloe.

There were several episodes at the end of season one that highlighted Clark's developing feelings for Chloe. It was definately more then just a season finale/one week thing. And yes, Clark was definately relieved when Chloe let him off the hook in regards to a relationship. I don't think he was prepared to give up on Lana at that point, nor do I think he and Chloe could have handled a relationship together back then. They both needed to mature(Chloe in particular). My point wasn't that Clark was madly in love with Chloe back in the day, but he was and has been physically attracted to her.

It is perfectly fair for you to believe that Clark doesn't feel anything for Chloe at this point if that is what you want to believe. I don't have any desire to change your opinion. However, I don't think you or anyone else on this thread can state it as absolute fact.... unless of course you are a writer or producer for SV and know exactly where they are going with this relationship. Then my apologies and can you get me on the set? LOL:rotfl:


Actually, nevermind...he prefers to dance with Lois rather than Chloe. When Chloe asked him to go to the dance, he didn't go. When Lois did, he did go.

He didn't decide to go to the dance because Lois wanted him to go, it was a combination of several people including his mother, his father, and Chloe encouraging him to go. Plus he probably wanted to keep an eye out for who Dawn jumped into next. Prom would be the obvious place to look for her.

It was right for Clark to dance with Lana at the prom. That's who he wanted to be there with. Chloe's disappointment doesn't make her pathetic, it makes her human. I think she also did a lot of growing up at that moment and started to realize she just wanted her bestfriend to be happy, even if that meant not being with her. It was a very bittersweet moment. It doesn't mean he won't someday want that person to be Chloe. People change and feelings change. Like I said above, no one can say that these two will or won't end up together. Just cause I want them to doesn't mean they will and just because you don't want them to doesn't mean they won't. If only we had that much power!

PaleBlueDot
11-19-2005, 08:26 PM
I think Chloe has been fairly reserved this season. I'm sure her feelings for Clark still exist, but she has two things going for her she didn't before. First, she shares Clarks secret, something that she obviously cherrishes. Second her career at the DP is taking off. I think the combination of these two things has her fairly content in her relationship with Clark and self esteeme.

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 08:31 PM
There were several episodes at the end of season one that highlighted Clark's developing feelings for Chloe. It was definately more then just a season finale/one week thing. And yes, Clark was definately relieved when Chloe let him off the hook in regards to a relationship. I don't think he was prepared to give up on Lana at that point, nor do I think he and Chloe could have handled a relationship together back then. They both needed to mature(Chloe in particular). My point wasn't that Clark was madly in love with Chloe back in the day, but he was and has been physically attracted to her.

I'm pretty sure I agreed that he is physically attracted to Chloe, so your point was made.


It is perfectly fair for you to believe that Clark doesn't feel anything for Chloe at this point if that is what you want to believe. I don't have any desire to change your opinion. However, I don't think you or anyone else on this thread can state it as absolute fact.... unless of course you are a writer or producer for SV and know exactly where they are going with this relationship. Then my apologies and can you get me on the set? LOL

Maybe I am;) But seriously, i go on what I see and from i've seen he doesn't see Chloe, like he saw Alicia, Kyla and especially Lana. I can't could give you a long explaination why, but I don't think it would do any good.

mkitty3
11-19-2005, 08:57 PM
I can't could give you a long explaination why, but I don't think it would do any good.

Nope, just like it would do me no good to try and convince you that they probably have a future together at some point in the series.

The following isn't directed at anyone in particular, just a general statement about fandom and forums.....
I think the key in any of these discussions is to remember that we are all fans of the same show and that we shouldn't minimize anyone's hopes or desires for what they would like to see, even if it is your ultimate nightmare(Lord knows, I don't talk about my enjoyment of Lexana for fear of bashing! I have to have a special filter on my LJ because people are so passionate in their dislike). I'm not going to go into a Clana-centric thread and start telling people who like that pairing all the reasons why they will never last. What would be the point other than to upset someone who has just as much right to enjoy that pairing as I do to enjoy my Chlark, my Lexana, or my Clex:D

If Chlark happens, great! If it doesn't, no big shocker. I think the only people who ultimately get what they want are Clois shippers;)

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 09:03 PM
You say you don't talk about liking lexana, because of your fear of being bashed? Because i've always got the feeling that no one bashed lexana, they just didn't get it. Me, for example, I don't like it, i just don't get it, especially the Lana side of it. It doesn't bother me, either way, if you like it or not.


I'm not going to go into a Clana-centric thread and start telling people who like that pairing all the reasons why they will never last

That's one person out of too many, now if we could get that number to go up....

cotton candy girl
11-19-2005, 09:08 PM
Mkitty3, if you hang around here long enough, you will see people go into Clana threads and do exactly what you think they shouldn't do. Everyone around here is free to do that. It's not nice for anyone to tell someone why their ship will never work, but I know I have to debate or move on when people say things I don't like.

This is not an idealistic place. It can very much be a mean place. I have read plenty of threads that downright called for Lana to die. That's mean, but a person either debates or ignores it. This is not to be mean, but I think you'll see how things work if you stay.

mkitty3
11-19-2005, 09:15 PM
You say you don't talk about liking lexana, because of your fear of being bashed? Because i've always got the feeling that no one bashed lexana, they just didn't get it. Me, for example, I don't like it, i just don't get it, especially the Lana side of it. It doesn't bother me, either way, if you like it or not.

I've been in the SV fandom for a while now(not here but TWoP and LJ), and talking about Lexana in those places is like a sacrilege! You probably wouldn't know it from all my Chlark harping, but I'm all about Lex. That's my boy;) The only person who was nice to Lex in season three consistently was Lana. That's when my Lexana thing developed. Of course nobody seems to like Lex these days on the show! So I'll have to wait and see if Lexana still works for me as the season progresses:)


This is not an idealistic place. It can very much be a mean place. I have read plenty of threads that downright called for Lana to die. That's mean, but a person either debates or ignores it. This is not to be mean, but I think you'll see how things work if you stay.

I know all too well! This does seem to be the most neutral of places I have found though. I don't hate any of the characters on the show(though I've been known to get pretty furious with Clark at times) and I can find value in any and all of the ships. I like some better then others though;) I have very close friends that are Clana lovers, friends whose opinions I value. You know what we talk about? The show in general. Never about ships! And it works so well for us! That's the key:)

SmallvilleMan
11-19-2005, 09:18 PM
This is not an idealistic place. It can very much be a mean place. I have read plenty of threads that downright called for Lana to die. That's mean, but a person either debates or ignores it. This is not to be mean, but I think you'll see how things work if you stay

I debate, i mean, someone has to.:( Seeing as how most clana fans don't want to put up with it.


I've been in the SV fandom for a while now(not here but TWoP and LJ), and talking about Lexana in those places is like a sacrilege! You probably wouldn't know it from all my Chlark harping, but I'm all about Lex. That's my boy The only person who was nice to Lex in season three consistently was Lana. That's when my Lexana thing developed. Of course nobody seems to like Lex these days on the show! So I'll have to wait and see if Lexana still works for me as the season progresses

It seems so wrong to me, on so many levels. Although, i must admit they did look cute in the lexmas scenes. Maybe that's just because they had kids and lana was pregnant though.

mkitty3
11-19-2005, 09:30 PM
It seems so wrong to me, on so many levels. Although, i must admit they did look cute in the lexmas scenes. Maybe that's just because they had kids and lana was pregnant though.

Maybe cause Lex is bald and so ambitious, he seems far older then everyone else and that can be creepy. In Lexmas it appears they are portraying them both as adults/parents making it a little more tolerable perhaps. I'm beginning to see all of the characters as grown ups these days. Trust me, when Lana was in highschool and there was some kind of implied Lexana moment, I would get the heeby jeebies!


Back to the fireside moment so that I'm not entirely OT, I liked that Shelby was there. I'm glad they are putting him/her in random scenes these days. It brings continuity which is nice.

Watching Smallville
11-20-2005, 07:55 AM
I saw the fact that Shelby was there as a big fat nod to Chlark. And I don't ship at all.

Nice discussion, guys. I enjoyed reading it.

Big Albowski
11-20-2005, 08:58 AM
What started as a "Hey, what a cute moment between Chloe and Clark" yet again turns into a shipper war! ALL of you should know better!!!

Closing!