Nice Feud Between Lois and Lex . . .

[bluehybrid69]

The scene between Lois and Lex is like hilarious. I mean the whole conflict / tension between them is so pety, yet pretty tense.

[Lexgirl33]

ha that was great, lex is such an @ss :lol:

[mercster]

Banana blueberry muffin.

[GhostRider]

Now that is Lex acting like the MB!!! That was great. Noticie he challenged her to find dirt on him. Maybe Lex is going to be the motivation for Lois to become a journalist.

[the_real_lois_lane]

^^
i agree...lex doesn't hold back.

i loved that. i think it was definitely showing lois' distrust of lex in the future after she's married clark and is working at the DP.

great interaction. i only hope they give us more scenes between these two.

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by GhostRider
Now that is Lex acting like the MB!!! That was great. Noticie he challenged her to find dirt on him. Maybe Lex is going to be the motivation for Lois to become a journalist.

I cannot wait to see this scene. I am on PST, so I still have almost another three hours. I am actually a fan of the Lexis interaction.

[RedPhoenix23]

Banana blueberry muffin? What? LOL? I can't wait until this ep finally airs in AZ! That scene sounds fun!

[MidgardDragon]

All this interaction with Lex is reminding me of Lois and Clark, but in reverse. (i.e. in LnC Lois started out loving Lex then learned to hate him). Well, I guess in Smallville it will be much more hate and very little like, but at least she'll learn to hate him as she should.

[Aloof]

I freaken loved it! I couldn't stop laughing for like 10 minutes! :rotfl:

[ma200]

The feud b/w them was kinda sexy...or maybe I just find Lex sexy. :lol:

I luv how Lois reacted by thinking I'm gonna find dirt on this guy. It was like she was saying "don't mess with my pride, a#$hole!!"

[Ms.Lane]

I LOVED it. I mean love, love, LOVE. I have wanted those two to interact somehow since I first heard Lois was coming. I hope this is an ongoing connection/feud and not something TPTB tease us with and then forget.

Lex's muffin line was classic. :p

[KalLover07]

I thought MR was acting like himself and not Lex. Does that make sense? He seemed himself n some scens. Like when he was telling Lionel that their secrets wouldn't get out. He was being funny, not Lexish. It could just be me.

[loistickyfingerz]

I loved the Lois and Lex scene. I've been waiting for those two to go toe to toe, and now I just want more.

[AnimeJoe]

Didn't he call her a "Muffin peddling high school drop out" ?? LOLOLOL!!!






Lois: "OH yeah Lex? you weren't lookin so big and bad when Brainiac verbally made you his b*tch a few weeks ago!"

[KANE POUND $QUAD]

Lois: "OH yeah Lex? you weren't lookin so big and bad when Brainiac verbally made you his b*tch a few weeks ago!" [/B][/QUOTE]

u guys cracks me up. keep it up :rotfl:

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

I loved it!!!:lol:
Lex finally said out loud what me an some others have been thinking for a while who can she be so tough when her life is a trainwreck!!! Muffin peddling college drop out :D
First get and education Lois then you can act like a snob b**** not the other way around. :D
Sorry Lois fans but when she is mean without reason she just get into my nerves Lex was only making a photo shoot in his business :mad: TPTB need to keep in check that mouth of hers :(

[KalLover07]

I loved that he mentiones he's the one that pays her.
You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by KalLover07
I loved that he mentiones he's the one that pays her.
You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
And she didn't say anything :D... she isn't as brave as she wanted us to beleive. Coward!!!!!

[loistickyfingerz]

Actually, I am a Lois fan and I was thrilled that Lex nailed her like he did. She's being lazy and wasting her talent and somebody needed to shove it back in her face.

She's got a hard-hitting personality and it's going to waste serving muffins. Whether he meant to or not, he lit a fire that is bound to grow into something good for Lois Lane.

[BeepBeep]

That "muffin peddler" line has to be one of my favourites from the entire season. I literally fell to my knees laughing.

Glad Lois finally shut up. He is a politician getting publicity photos done, just like every single politician in America. Of course, it wouldn't be Smallville Lois without a rude, pointless comment about it. And Lois, this is the guy that not only pays your salary (and therefore your shiny new car), can evict you and got you back into college despite not even knowing you, so kindly go choke on a muffin until you pay him back the money that your sister stole from him.

[GhostRider]

Originally posted by loistickyfingerz
Actually, I am a Lois fan and I was thrilled that Lex nailed her like he did.

Really? I must have missed this scene.

:rotfl:

[chlarklove]

And exactly what is this "feud" based on again?

Lex getting "Lois" into college when she didn't deserve it? To which she then got her ass kicked out, making Lex look like a fool.

Lex bailing her sister out of trouble with a loan shark where he was willing to pay 50 grand, and then her sister STOLE ONE OF HIS CARS?

Lex giving her a job AND a place to stay?

Yeah, I can see where she has every right to treat him like crap. :rolleyes:

Though I did absolutely LOVE when Lex called her on it and said she was a "muffin peddling college drop-out." Though, not so true Lex. She got KICKED out of college.


Glad Lois finally shut up. He is a politician getting publicity photos done, just like every single politician in America. Of course, it wouldn't be Smallville Lois without a rude, pointless comment about it. And Lois, this is the guy that not only pays your salary (and therefore your shiny new car), can evict you and got you back into college despite not even knowing you, so kindly go choke on a muffin until you pay him back the money that your sister stole from him.

Word.

[MANOFSTEELKALEL]

Lois got PWNED numerous times during that conversation.....

[AnimeJoe]

Someday Lois will realize that only two people can OWN Lex in an argument. Lionel and Brianiac/Professor Fine ;)

[Shiver]

"And exactly what is this "feud" based on again? Lex getting "Lois" into college when she didn't deserve it?"

THANK YOU!!!! That's *exactly* what I was thinking. I'm not sure how to read the anti-Lex stuff this season. Are we supposed to be watching Chloe and Lois plot to take down Lex thinking "you go girls!" or are we supposed to be thinking, "gee, that's a mean way to treat the guy who saved Chloe's life when Lionel tried to assassinate her?" I mean, sure, we the viewers know he's going to go evil, but the characters don't.

I'm also curious about the Lexis sniping. From what I've heard, in the comics (and in Lois n' Clark) Lois ends up in a relationship with Lex at one point. So is the snipiness supposed to evolve into something else (like the Clois banter) or is taking down Lex supposed to be Lois's new mission in life?

[SteveS]

Nois, the complete non-achiever of anything other than snide reminds is out of her league with Lex and he verbally slapped a knot up side her head with the 'muffin peddling college drop-out' line which she totally deserved. And more.

Nois has a lot of ego for someone who achieved nothing even equal to Lana or Chloe.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Well considering in the comics as a teenager it's getting dirt on Lex that gets Lois into journalism, I think they're heading that route on SV :)

I loved their sparring match, loved that someone gave Lex as good as he dishes out.

He was doing campaign posters at the Talon, what a slap in the face to the Kents, yeah Lois shouldn't have said anything :rolleyes: I don't care if Lex owns the place or not, that was just in bad taste, I'm glad Lois made note of that fact :D

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Well considering in the comics as a teenager it's getting dirt on Lex that gets Lois into journalism, I think they're heading that route on SV :)

Except she doesn't want to do any of the work. She wanted Chloe to do it all.


I loved their sparring match, loved that someone gave Lex as good as he dishes out.

Lex: There's nothing more valuable than the savvy political advice of a muffin peddling college drop-out. Speaking of, do you have banana blueberry today?

Where was all the talk after that huh? She got her ass handed to her by Lex. And it was hilarious. :p


He was doing campaign posters at the Talon, what a slap in the face to the Kents, yeah Lois shouldn't have said anything :rolleyes: I don't care if Lex owns the place or not, that was just in bad taste, I'm glad Lois made note of that fact :D

Excuse me? Yes, Lex OWNS the Talon, and he also GAVE Martha the job. So without him, there would be no Talon, and there would be no job for Martha. To which there also would be no job for "Lois" either.

I may not be Lex's biggest fan, but seriously. It was in bad taste of "Lois" to talk to Lex the way she did when he has been nothing but generous to her in the past.

As someone said earlier in the thread, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[LolaDane]

Originally posted by Ms.Lane
I LOVED it. I mean love, love, LOVE. I have wanted those two to interact somehow since I first heard Lois was coming. I hope this is an ongoing connection/feud and not something TPTB tease us with and then forget.

Lex's muffin line was classic. :p

Agreed. I've been dying for some Lexis interaction for quite some time now, and this one didn't disappoint. MR was brilliant with that line. Really twisting the knife. :lol:

I sure hope the interaction continues. I want Lois to dig up that acorn. ;)

[batfinx]

I'll be the differing voice here. I thought the scene was awesome on both Lex and Lois's side and even weirdly sexy. She did have a point that having a photo shoot where the wife of his political rival works was like a dog lifting its leg marking his territory. He owns the Talon, but he is not and never was a hands on participant and so he comes across as a man of the common people about as much as Donald Trump does. In fact, his swipe at Lois as a muffin peddling dropout proved her point for her. He's a billionaire looking down on a waitress who actually has to work for a living.

I assume Lex went to college and maybe he didn't even bribe professors to give him good grades, but I wouldn't count on it :lol: But what was his major? We know he's not a lawyer or doctor or anything, so what is he? What did college give him that his silver spoon birth didn't already provide? A diploma from an ivy league school?

As for Lois not knowing her lowly place by biting the hand that feeds her because Lex got her into college, then doesn't that mean Jonathan or Clark have no right to mistrust him either because he paid off their farm? Since Lex owns the Talon as he pointed out, did that give him the right to go into the apartment any time he pleased while Lana was staying there?

I think it's funny people are saying that Lois somehow should show Lex deference since he got her into college, even though she didn't ask that favor of him. If someone wants to point out that even though she didn't ask, she took the offer anyway, then I'd point out what Pauline Kahn pointed out about Lionel giving Chloe the job at the Daily Planet and Chloe saying she didn't ask him to do that, but she didn't turn it down either ;)

Every stone that can be thrown at Lois can also be thrown at the Kents, Clark, Chloe and Lana for doing something similar where Lex is concerned. And people should stop worrying about Lois horning in on Chloe's journalistic prowess writing obituaries and wedding announcements. She's not ready for all that glamour yet :lol:

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by batfinx
I'll be the differing voice here. I thought the scene was awesome on both Lex and Lois's side and even weirdly sexy. She did have a point that having a photo shoot where the wife of his political rival works was like a dog lifting its leg marking his territory. He owns the Talon, but he is not and never was a hands on participant and so he comes across as a man of the common people about as much as Donald Trump does. In fact, his swipe at Lois as a muffin peddling dropout proved her point for her. He's a billionaire looking down on a waitress who actually has to work for a living.

So are you saying that running a MAJOR corporation like LuthorCorp ISN'T working for a living? He wasn't the one who *started* the company, but he's the one who's kept it running and SUCCESSFUL over the years.

He wasn't looking down on her, he was putting her in her place since she was so rude to him. I would've done the same thing in his position.

He doesn't think negatively of the working class, as proved in season 3 when he was willing, and *offered* to help out at the farm when he was staying there to earn his keep.

Someone who looks down on the smalltown/farm life? Is "Lois" herself. And what's really disgusting about that, is that SHE LIVES THERE. And she CHOOSES to do so.


As for Lois not knowing her lowly place by biting the hand that feeds her because Lex got her into college, then doesn't that mean Jonathan or Clark have no right to mistrust him either because he paid off their farm? Since Lex owns the Talon as he pointed out, did that give him the right to go into the apartment any time he pleased while Lana was staying there?

It's not because of the college thing, it's because HE PAYS HER SALARY AND GIVES HER A PLACE TO STAY. He could evict/fire her in a *heartbeat* if he wanted to.

The JK/CK mistrust of Lex is totally justifiable. I think the CoCK is HUGE proof of that, among many other things.


I think it's funny people are saying that Lois somehow should show Lex deference since he got her into college, even though she didn't ask that favor of him. If someone wants to point out that even though she didn't ask, she took the offer anyway, then I'd point out what Pauline Kahn pointed out about Lionel giving Chloe the job at the Daily Planet and Chloe saying she didn't ask him to do that, but she didn't turn it down either ;)

The difference is, Lex has done NOTHING to "Lois" to warrant that type of animosity. Yes, I'm sure she's heard things from the Kents and Chloe, but since she hasn't witnessed things firsthand, there's no reason for her to behave that way.

[MsSullivan]

I totally agree chlarklove.

Lois has an unfounded dislike/mistrust/hatred towards Lex. Now if he had refused to help her get into Met U. or refused to help Lucy...then maybe I would be okay with her animosity towards Lex. Until Lex does something to Lois, I find her behavior towards him childish and rude.

[Randy G.]

I loved that! I've noticed from day 1, that Lo's character is being written as a witty, but "Smart-assy" type.
I found it refreshing to see the look on her face after being put in her place for once. It was priceless! :lol:

I'm surprised Lex didn't say something like, "Wow....you must have really peddled your "muffin" to afford that new Ford Fusion." :lol:

[batfinx]

So are you saying that running a MAJOR corporation like LuthorCorp ISN'T working for a living? He wasn't the one who *started* the company, but he's the one who's kept it running and SUCCESSFUL over the years

Lex isn't exactly a Horatio Alger story :lol: He didn't go form rags to riches. He took over an already successful business. A business that began with blood money. Lex has done more than his share of buying influence and greasing palms to get where he is, but I guess that's "working" in a twisted kind of way.


He wasn't looking down on her, he was putting her in her place since she was so rude to him. I would've done the same thing in his position.

If she was rude then what he actually did was sink to her level rather than rise above it. If you're a billionaire are you really going to give a damn what a waitress says unless she's close to the truth?


He doesn't think negatively of the working class, as proved in season 3 when he was willing, and *offered* to help out at the farm when he was staying there to earn his keep

You're talking about a Lex who doesn't exist anymore. He's not that same guy. Not unless you want to say Chloe is the same person she was when she wanted to betray Clark to Lionel when she was jealous of his relationship with Lana.


It's not because of the college thing, it's because HE PAYS HER SALARY AND GIVES HER A PLACE TO STAY. He could evict/fire her in a *heartbeat* if he wanted to

So your rule of thumb, if you work for a powerful man, keep your place, don't challenge him, don't talk back, keep quiet even if he kidnapped your cousin and drug her to the caves against her will. Interesting.


The difference is, Lex has done NOTHING to "Lois" to warrant that type of animosity. Yes, I'm sure she's heard things from the Kents and Chloe, but since she hasn't witnessed things firsthand, there's no reason for her to behave that way.

So if she didn't witness them first hand, she has to assume that her cousin and Clark and his parents are liars? OK :lol:


Lois has an unfounded dislike/mistrust/hatred towards Lex. Now if he had refused to help her get into Met U. or refused to help Lucy...then maybe I would be okay with her animosity towards Lex. Until Lex does something to Lois, I find her behavior towards him childish and rude.

Yes, shame on Lois for not liking or trusting a guy who kidnapped her cousin and fired her cousin's dad. Lois is just one big bully :D

[Timester]

If I do remember, Lex was also kicked out of the school and was living a playboy life before he was sent to Smallville by his father...

[Randy G.]

Wow! I don't think the little tiff between Lo' & Lex, was EVEN written as deep as it's being analyzed. ;)

Now everybody breathe...........that's it, now don't we all feel better? lol! :)

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by Randy G.
I'm surprised Lex didn't say something like, "Wow....you must have really peddled your "muffin" to afford that new Ford Fusion." :lol:

:rotfl:

This has to be one of the funniest things I have read in weeks.

Just awesome Randy!!

[batfinx]

I'm surprised Lex didn't say something like, "Wow....you must have really peddled your "muffin" to afford that new Ford Fusion."

Yeah, come to think of it how'd Chloe, who wasn't employed nor her father, have a new Volkswagen? How'd Lana keep paying for the new Jeep Liberty after she stopped working? Why hasn't Geico canceled the Kents' insurance after the fifth or sixth time the truck got wrecked? :lol:

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
I loved it!!!:lol:
Lex finally said out loud what me an some others have been thinking for a while who can she be so tough when her life is a trainwreck!!! Muffin peddling college drop out :D
First get and education Lois then you can act like a snob b**** not the other way around. :D
Sorry Lois fans but when she is mean without reason she just get into my nerves Lex was only making a photo shoot in his business :mad: TPTB need to keep in check that mouth of hers :(

Preach sistah, preach!

Not only was it was hysterical that she got her "butt" handed to her by Lex, but I really don't think she had the right to be so freakin' snippey to Lex anyways. But thats Smallville Lois for ya, TPTB love that quality of hers. I really don't get the sense of entitlement that she has, its annoying, hopefully this will cause her character to grow up a bit.

[Ms.Lane]

I think everyone is right about Lois being stuck up and snotty a lot of the time--and it being foolish for her to go after Lex like that (even though the exchange was awesome!) for a myriad of reasons. And I'm a HUGE Lois fan. But its a product of her breeding; she doesn't trust male dominators. If she was nice to Lex, these same critics would be slamming her for being out-of-character. She's still young and hasn't matured into who she will become yet. She has a lot to learn. She'll shoot her mouth off foolishly sometimes. Lex put her into her place and now she's out to prove him wrong. Chloe will help her reach her potential to be an ace reporter that will take Metropolis (and Clark ;) ) by storm and we'll have Lex to thank.

I think this was a great job by the writers--it was semi-subtle and masked behind the humor of Lex's "muffin peddler" line, but a major change has taken place. Before this Lois would help out Chloe when Chloe asked, but now she is her own motivator. Lois Lane has taken one giant step towards actually being what we all know her to be.

[nevra]

It's cool to see someone stand up to Lex like that. No sugar-coating, just POW!

[margroks]

I thought Lex was spot on in his criticism of Lois. SHe IS a muffin peddler and nothing more and shows no sign of ever being the real Lois if her only motive is revenge. She was unnecessarily rude and especially considering it was Lex who got her into college when she in no way deserved to be there as a high school funkie, her nastiness was inexcusable. He was right to call her on her bull and she deserved every bit of it.

[Naomi]

Originally posted by Shiver
I'm not sure how to read the anti-Lex stuff this season. Are we supposed to be watching Chloe and Lois plot to take down Lex thinking "you go girls!" or are we supposed to be thinking, "gee, that's a mean way to treat the guy who saved Chloe's life when Lionel tried to assassinate her?" I mean, sure, we the viewers know he's going to go evil, but the characters don't.
Chloe is right to distrust Lex. She now knows Clark's big secret and wants to protect him. The end of season 4 had Lex dragging her to the cave by force. In early season 5 he wasn't kind to her in the caves again, calling her a third wheel.

Lois on the other hand has no reason to snipe at Lex. Unless that's just her unimagnative way of following the crowd :rolleyes:

Even Lex seemed surprised by her un-called for bad attitude. He has done Lois several favours, letting her off the money she owed at the end of Lucy for a start. What reason does Lois have to attack him?


Originally posted by chlarklove
He doesn't think negatively of the working class, as proved in season 3 when he was willing, and *offered* to help out at the farm when he was staying there to earn his keep.

Someone who looks down on the smalltown/farm life? Is "Lois" herself. And what's really disgusting about that, is that SHE LIVES THERE. And she CHOOSES to do so.
I agree. When have we seen Lois mucking out stalls in front of a gloating Jonathon Kent? When she stayed with them, all she did was record her own message on thier answer machine and bring a dog in the house to wreck the place, use all the hot water etc.

Lois has looked down on Clark and his way of life more than anyone else on the show.

[Watching Smallville]

I disagree that Lois looks down on the Kents' way of life. She loves the Kents and respects them. I wouldn't take the digs at Clark as a sign that she doesn't respect farming. She just likes to give Clark a hard time. It's like a hobby.

And Lex is a known quantity to her. She has seen men like this all her life. She doesn't know the good Lex, the Lex that Clark and Chloe remember and that fans like. She just knows the current Lex, and she's evaluating him based on her own experiences.

She does have a tendency to lash out, but that's Lois -- or at least that's this Lois. She lashed out at Aquaman, too. But I'm thinking that as an army brat, traveling all around with her father, she's had a pretty tough go of it, and she's probably had to develop a hard edge just to survive.

I like the exchange between Lex and Lois. They seem to be evenly matched, and that's chemistry for interesting scenes in the future.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by MsSullivan
I totally agree chlarklove.

Lois has an unfounded dislike/mistrust/hatred towards Lex. Now if he had refused to help her get into Met U. or refused to help Lucy...then maybe I would be okay with her animosity towards Lex. Until Lex does something to Lois, I find her behavior towards him childish and rude.


People seem to forget that Lois NEVER asked for Lex's help. Clark and Lucy are the ones who dragged her into Lex's universe. She's NEVER asked him for anything.

It was very classless of Lex to do the photo shoot at the Talon. Isn't he supposed to be a Silent Partner there? It seems like he throws his weight around when it serves his purpose, same with being the boss of the place. I pretty much figured Martha had free run of the place with Lex being the silent partner, cause Lana sure did.

I agree with Lois, Lex should have just went and milked the Kents cows, it was a slap in the face of the Kents to do his photo shoot there, plus he most likely only did it to make his image for the public look really good. Like Lois said he owns half of Smallville, he could have done the shoot at the Mansion
Cause otherwise Lex doesn't give a flying fig about the Talon :rolleyes:

Like I said before they're using this to get Lois into journalism. Lois as a teen in the comics broke into the Luthor mansion to dig up dirt on Lex, and presented what she found to Perry and he hired her, she went to night classes while working at the DP in the comics, I think that's the direction they're heading :D


Originally posted by Naomi

Lois on the other hand has no reason to snipe at Lex. Unless that's just her unimagnative way of following the crowd :rolleyes:


Ever think maybe Chloe told Lois about how Lex manhandled her in the caves? Lois would have as much reason to dislike Lex if Chloe did tell her.

Plus Lois is good at reading people and she knows Lex isn't what he seems ;)

[captaincharisma]

Originally posted by MsSullivan
I totally agree chlarklove.

Lois has an unfounded dislike/mistrust/hatred towards Lex. Now if he had refused to help her get into Met U. or refused to help Lucy...then maybe I would be okay with her animosity towards Lex. Until Lex does something to Lois, I find her behavior towards him childish and rude.

Unfounded? Everybody doesn't trust Lex even his best friend Clark. Why would Lois trust him when he comes across very dodgy? To me, it shows she is a good judge of character. Jonathon never trusted Lex from the beginning, where is your vitriol for him?

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
People seem to forget that Lois NEVER asked for Lex's help. Clark and Lucy are the ones who dragged her into Lex's universe. She's NEVER asked him for anything.
So if why didn't she reject it when handle it?


It was very classless of Lex to do the photo shoot at the Talon. Isn't he supposed to be a Silent Partner there? It seems like he throws his weight around when it serves his purpose, same with being the boss of the place. I pretty much figured Martha had free run of the place with Lex being the silent partner, cause Lana sure did.

I agree with Lois, Lex should have just went and milked the Kents cows, it was a slap in the face of the Kents to do his photo shoot there, plus he most likely only did it to make his image for the public look really good. Like Lois said he owns half of Smallville, he could have done the shoot at the Mansion
Cause otherwise Lex doesn't give a flying fig about the Talon :rolleyes:

First this is the way politics act they try to look good at the eyes of people so probably his politicals advisors ask them to make a photo shoot not only at the mansion but places he owns and visits and places he goes without bodyguards (well for the way everybody gets in the mansion without an annoucement he pretty much alone anyway ;)) to show that he isn't a snob or just a rich kids who wants to play politics so it might not like you but is a political move nad nothing more if martha would have complain about it or jonathan then Edlois will have a point but this was HER perception of the shoot and Lex she didn't have anything for backing up. She just wanted to treat bad someone since Clark wasn't around and probably now that she has moved there she got no one to being a b*** with.



Like I said before they're using this to get Lois into journalism. Lois as a teen in the comics broke into the Luthor mansion to dig up dirt on Lex, and presented what she found to Perry and he hired her, she went to night classes while working at the DP in the comics, I think that's the direction they're heading :D

I agree with you in this.


Ever think maybe Chloe told Lois about how Lex manhandled her in the caves? Lois would have as much reason to dislike Lex if Chloe did tell her.:D

If that was the case with that big mouth of her she would had yelled it strong enough so half kansas could hear it. But she just say the line about men buying power blah, blah, like her reason to despite him so it doesn't apply.


Plus Lois is good at reading people and she knows Lex isn't what he seems ;)

Yes so good that she thinks Clark is not worth the time, is going to marry Lana and never acomplish anything in his life...Yes she is good at it :rolleyes:

[ryb]

It's funny how this thread has transformed into a "love-or-hate Lois" thread.

As to the original topic, I thought this scene was dynamite. I think it made a great beginning for two eventual formidable opponents. And the acting in this scene, by both Durance and Rosenbaum, was exceptional.

[umm]

Yes so good that she thinks Clark is not worth the time, is going to marry Lana and never acomplish anything in his life...Yes she is good at it :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]

Exactly! Meanwhile, she herself is a college dropout, who lives and works in the same place! And, while I really can´t stand Lex right now, he is a baddie, one who has no tact or class at that; the shot at the Talon for his campaign being the proof, he was right about Lois! She is in no position to give advice! And she doesn´t read people at all, it´s not like it´s hard to guess that Lex is a bad guy! With the way he has been acting lately, a little child could do it!

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by ryb
As to the original topic, I thought this scene was dynamite. I think it made a great beginning for two eventual formidable opponents.

Undoubtedly the writers' intent. And well executed.

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
People seem to forget that Lois NEVER asked for Lex's help. Clark and Lucy are the ones who dragged her into Lex's universe. She's NEVER asked him for anything.

So? That doesn't give her the right to say the things she said. She's basically stereotyping him based on other's opinions/experiences. Until she herself has something negative happen to her from Lex, she has no right to speak to him like that. Especially after all he's done for her.


It was very classless of Lex to do the photo shoot at the Talon. Isn't he supposed to be a Silent Partner there? It seems like he throws his weight around when it serves his purpose, same with being the boss of the place. I pretty much figured Martha had free run of the place with Lex being the silent partner, cause Lana sure did.

Again, Lex OWNS the place. He EMPLOYS Martha and "Lois" as well as provides her housing.

Maybe he chose the Talon because it provided a nice background for the pictures and the colors brought out his eyes? :p


Like I said before they're using this to get Lois into journalism. Lois as a teen in the comics broke into the Luthor mansion to dig up dirt on Lex, and presented what she found to Perry and he hired her, she went to night classes while working at the DP in the comics, I think that's the direction they're heading :D

Right. Except they're not as proof of what we know from upcoming spoilers.


Plus Lois is good at reading people and she knows Lex isn't what he seems ;)

Oh... is that why she wouldn't hear a word Clark had to say about his suspicions of AC? She basically just fell for this dude no questions asked. Hey, I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad thing cause Chloe and Lana have shown it too.

[Netmaster]

Well let's not forget the episode with AC. He probably told Lois about the little device that could tear a ship in half and also about what it did to all aquatic life. He probably also told Lois how Lex could have cared less about the possible fallout and harm it could eventually do to us.

Lois now knows that Lex only really cares about himself anymore. Ohh . . . and Lana of course. Everyone's crazy about her.

That's the reason she spoke out like she did. She's now aware of the real Lex Luthor. She's just young and spoke out without thinking of her own situation.

The point of the scene was to show that in this telling of the Superman mythos Lois Lane is not fooled by Lex's nice guy facade like she was in previous tellings.

This time around, Lois Lane sees him coming from a mile away and she won't be fooled. Kinda ironic that she is later fooled by Clark's facade as Superman. That's just the way Lois has always been though.

There's no need to over analyze everything. Some of you should lighten up a bit. Who let the haters out? Sheesh. :p

[Ultron]

As usual Lex gets some of the best lines. I burst out laughing when I heard the muffin-peddling line, and then the snappy request for a muffin.

ZING!

[captaincharisma]

Originally posted by chlarklove
Oh... is that why she wouldn't hear a word Clark had to say about his suspicions of AC? She basically just fell for this dude no questions asked. Hey, I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad thing cause Chloe and Lana have shown it too.

eh? A.C was a good guy and she saw that in him so of course she didn't want to know any suspicions Clark might have had. Difference between Clark and A.C is that one has direction the other doesn't wanna do much, just "fit it". I don't know what questions Lois should have been asking really?


Ultron
As usual Lex gets some of the best lines. I burst out laughing when I heard the muffin-peddling line, and then the snappy request for a muffin.

ZING!

Yea that was cool, I hope Lois can one up him next time though. Perhaps she could set up her own business and rival the Talon. She could set up an ice cream van down the street, that'll teach him for messing with Ms. Lane:eek: :lol:

[my3cats]

This scene was the worst case of "tell don't show" writing ever. :mad:

Lois hates Lex on sight, when the only thing she's ever known about him, is he helped to save her sister and didn't press charges when she stold his car. WTF? That really came out of nowhere.
It was even worse than last year when Chloe started trumpeting the "anyone named "Luthor" is EVIIILLLLL!!!!" thing after not having a single scene with Lex after he saved her life.
And Jonathan working with Lionel of all people(?!?!) to undermine Lex's political career, after it was Lex that helped them out when they were about to lose the farm.
What is in Lex's campaign that makes them so horified at the thought of him in public office, after so many times that Lex has been the one to stand up for the town against Lionels robber-baron-capitalism?

Do they somehow have access to comic books from our universe or something and therefore "know" Lex is going to turn out so dangerous without them having seen anything on the show to give them this knowledge?

[angelfire east]

I maybe a Lois fan but I agree with Chlarklove, my3cats and others. He was nothing but understanding about helpful to Lois in lucy even after Lucy stoal his car so she turns around and does this crap?

I don't get this whole "slap in the face of Martha" because he had his picture taken there. He, with Lana, brought the Talon back and turned it into this great place. Something that has been good for the town without giving much back to Lex in the way money. Did the thought ever cross her mind he may want his picture taken there because it was one of the first good things he did for the town. Plus Martha wouldn't have job (neither would Lois) if it wasn't for Lex, hell the Kents wouldn't even have the farm if it wasn't for him. He didn't even get the pictures taken when Martha was around. Oh he's such a moster for getting his picture taken, Lois was so right to be rude to him :rolleyes: Keep on bitting that hand Lois see how long till it gets sick of feeding you.

I really think it was harsh of her to go to Chloe wanting her to write a update about Lex's time of mental illiness. Up to that point I keep thinking, well she shot her month off, Lex shut her up. It all worked out, just forget then she had to go try to bring up the mental illiness

[President_Luthor]

Originally posted by batfinx
I'll be the differing voice here. I thought the scene was awesome on both Lex and Lois's side and even weirdly sexy. She did have a point that having a photo shoot where the wife of his political rival works was like a dog lifting its leg marking his territory. He owns the Talon, but he is not and never was a hands on participant and so he comes across as a man of the common people about as much as Donald Trump does. In fact, his swipe at Lois as a muffin peddling dropout proved her point for her. He's a billionaire looking down on a waitress who actually has to work for a living.

I assume Lex went to college and maybe he didn't even bribe professors to give him good grades, but I wouldn't count on it :lol: But what was his major? We know he's not a lawyer or doctor or anything, so what is he? What did college give him that his silver spoon birth didn't already provide? A diploma from an ivy league school?

As for Lois not knowing her lowly place by biting the hand that feeds her because Lex got her into college, then doesn't that mean Jonathan or Clark have no right to mistrust him either because he paid off their farm? Since Lex owns the Talon as he pointed out, did that give him the right to go into the apartment any time he pleased while Lana was staying there?

I think it's funny people are saying that Lois somehow should show Lex deference since he got her into college, even though she didn't ask that favor of him. If someone wants to point out that even though she didn't ask, she took the offer anyway, then I'd point out what Pauline Kahn pointed out about Lionel giving Chloe the job at the Daily Planet and Chloe saying she didn't ask him to do that, but she didn't turn it down either ;)

Every stone that can be thrown at Lois can also be thrown at the Kents, Clark, Chloe and Lana for doing something similar where Lex is concerned. And people should stop worrying about Lois horning in on Chloe's journalistic prowess writing obituaries and wedding announcements. She's not ready for all that glamour yet :lol:

I agree with you. I know Lex's retort comes off on the surface as him putting Lois in his place. Didn't he put Chloe in her place earlier with his harsh 'third wheel' zinger, too (and many fans detested that he did that)? What this clash showed was just how petty Lex is capable of being, and Lois was calling him on the lack of tact in shooting an ad where the 'wife' of his competitor works. And you're right batfinx. it shows that Lex - despite his affectations of being a selfless benefactor - does have his snooty side and it came out here. Nothing is 'selfless' about Lex Luthor and his ability to conceal his intentions is one of his best skills. Like Chloe herself said, he sleeps with the key under his pillow.

The maxim 'Let sleeping dragons lie' comes to mind ... and I'm not talking about Lex. It seemed to be an allusion to the Lex and Lois clashes of legend. She'll be a constant thorn in his side.

The Kents still have their farm thanks to Lex ... they have their son thanks to Lionel *cough* Ross Corn Factory Screw-over;). Does that mean they should just grin and bear it when the Luthors do something they don't like? How is it that everyone else gets a pass but 'woe unto Lois' when she 'dares' to speak out against Lex. Clark is the undisputed king of self-righteousness in this town, and if anyone needs to answer for not paying due deference because of Lex's help it's our boy, Kal-El. If there is going to be nitpickyness about Lois' flawed traits on the show, then set up the confessionals, because Clark, Lana, Chloe, JK et al have a truckful of 'em to unload.

Ex)

--While Chloe did not give Lionel info about Clark, she 'did' take his help in getting a Planet column. She didn't say: do your worst, it's not worth compromising my integrity. How blameless is she to accept that help, even though she didn't actually carry out the favour for Lionel?

--JK cut a deal with Lionel to legitimize Clark's adoption, but he traded in his friendship with the Rosses to do that. Is JK as realistic a symbol of integrity that he claims to be, or is his 'loyalty' one of convenience?

[I'm just trying to illustrate that you can make an objective case that everyone has made errors in judgment, and some haven't yet paid enough consequences for them -- Clark's life being exchanged for one he loves being the biggest one.]

I think TPTB 'want' us to ask questions like that. It's not as simple as 'oh X or Y is behaving badly' so they're immediately wrong or bad. I like Chloe's character BECAUSE she has those dilemmas. I like Lex's character because we were never sure whether his 'goodness' comes with strings. Why should only Lois, or Clark, or Lex be made to fit into pre-conceived moulds, when SV has played fast and loose with canon to fit their vision for the show?

Lois might have bitten the hand that feeds her ... but so has Clark, and definitely JK. As for Lex, he might have cause to belittle the help but he's already done something like that to Chloe and there was outrage over Lex's snootiness. (It's somehow okay because it's Lois who got stung?) Lois raised the taste issue, and Lex has already shown that it's not as easy for him to keep that vindictive side under wraps. In a public campaign, that would be a problem.

No one's a pillar of virtue in this town, and Lex dropped his game-face just long enough to show us here a glimpse at his hand: his megalomaniacal, superior self-indulgent side ie the Lex of legend. We should remember that just about every other character has had four years to luxuriate in their own hypocrisies and lies. No one is beyond reproach here: not Clark, not Lana, not Chloe, not Jonathan -- no one.

I think that's the point TPTB have wanted to make since S1. ;)