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vikingjedi
11-10-2005, 11:54 PM
No wonder this episode rocked :D
cotton candy girl
11-10-2005, 11:57 PM
No Lois, woohoo! No annoying punches on the shoulder and stupid nicknames like "Smallville", bleh. ;)
thmallville
11-11-2005, 05:51 AM
AGREE!!!!!!AGREE!!!!!AGREE!!!!! No Lois was SUCH a gift from TPTB. :D
Jlandsw
11-11-2005, 06:16 AM
It's funny, I said the exact same thing about Lana in last week's episode :D
Whats with all the Lois haters??
shy175223
11-11-2005, 06:29 AM
well, I m sure Lois will be BACK in the next episode or two. still it wouldve been funny to see Lois also in this episode to see her reaction to Clark's behaviour.
Lana_Lang #1
11-11-2005, 06:32 AM
I was actually wondering while watching this episode, how he thought Lois would betray hm or what he'd hallucinate about her.
Oh well! Although I kinda miss her presence.
PETER WEST
11-11-2005, 06:35 AM
This episode was ment to be Dark, so Lois's presence was not needed. But don't worry she'll be back next week.
I missed her comedy. I'll be glad to see her back next week.
johnny fogg
11-11-2005, 07:20 AM
Lois is only semi-regular yet her bazookas deserve top billing over Chloe in the credits????:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
11-11-2005, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
No Lois, woohoo! No annoying punches on the shoulder and stupid nicknames like "Smallville", bleh. ;)
She hasn't punched him on the shoulder since "Commencement".
I love their nicknames. In the comics she calls him "Smallville" and he calls her "Metropolis". Terms of endearment. :D :D :D :D
Funny I thought the same thing last week how great it was to be Lana free, hope it happens more often, cause it does go to show how she truly isn't needed ;)
Lois should be back next week for "Solitude" *sits back and waits for Solitude* :)
sunshine1973
11-11-2005, 09:13 AM
ummmm Lois was sadly misssed...wondering too how Clark would have perceived her if she was present?
emmamarie318
11-11-2005, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by vikingjedi
No wonder this episode rocked :D
I agree! Yay , no Lois... she overacts and all the episodes without her are better! :D
zagen
11-11-2005, 09:22 AM
that was probably the biggest downer of the episode.. that lois wasnt in it.
cant wait for some more clois interaction. (face it, clana'ers your time has come :p ! )
luuke
11-11-2005, 09:33 AM
the episodes without lois are somehow much better than these with her and especially these which are centered around her..
Aqua and Exposed just sucked..
Erok-El
11-11-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by zagen
that was probably the biggest downer of the episode.. that lois wasnt in it.
cant wait for some more clois interaction. (face it, clana'ers your time has come :p ! )
I couldn't agree more.
SteveS
11-11-2005, 09:39 AM
luuke has it right. Lois is for the lightweight filler episodes that need T&A and poorly written comedy.
Notice that ClarkMan did not miss her or mention her as a friend. Apparently she is on the same level as Shelby. (Remember, Nois wanted to name the dog 'Clarkie?')
An episode without Lois is like a day without sarcasm. And it makes for better episodes.
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
She hasn't punched him on the shoulder since "Commencement".
I love their nicknames. In the comics she calls him "Smallville" and he calls her "Metropolis". Terms of endearment. :D :D :D :D
Funny I thought the same thing last week how great it was to be Lana free, hope it happens more often, cause it does go to show how she truly isn't needed ;)
Lois should be back next week for "Solitude" *sits back and waits for Solitude* :)
I'm sorry, I hate to start Lois vs. Lana arguments, but "she isn't needed" is absolute rubbish. The way that the writers have been trying to tie Lana into the mythology has been crappy. She is needed because she's Clark's first love. I hate how they've been trying to give her a greater purpose, because that's all she needs to be. It's small, but there it is.
What is Lois' purpose? Get kicked out of college, mooch off the Kents? If you took away Lois from any episode, it would be fine if you replaced her with Pete/Lana/Chloe. The first four episodes of season four were perfect, but after that, Lois has no reason to be in Smallville, other then to strip and provide jokes.
IMO, it was better that she wasn't in Splinter because what would Clark halucinate about? Lois actually being funny? ;) But in seriousness, Clark would have nothing to be paranoid over, so it's better it wasn't forced.
Absentee
11-11-2005, 10:25 AM
No Lana and the ratings dipped.
No Lois and the ratings went up :lol:
Yup, Smallvile sure doesn't need Lana Lang... ;)
Love. it. :rotfl:
johnny fogg
11-11-2005, 11:13 AM
Wow. I hadn't realized until now the correlation betwene Lois's presence and bad eppys!:eek:
Jeanot Schwartz is another giveaway.:\
Kreukie
11-11-2005, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Absentee
No Lana and the ratings dipped.
No Lois and the ratings went up :lol:
Yup, Smallvile sure doesn't need Lana Lang... ;)
Burn! :lol: :rotfl:
Originally posted by johnny fogg
Wow. I hadn't realized until now the correlation betwene Lois's presence and bad eppys!:eek:
Pretty scary isn't it. :lol:
SuperGeek
11-11-2005, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by emmamarie318
I agree! Yay , no Lois... she overacts and all the episodes without her are better! :D
:snort: Whereas Kristen Kreuk doesn't overact at al l. Ever. </sarcasm> Everyone on Smallville overactsa bit. That's just how they direct. As far as overacting goes, Erica Durance is definitely not the worst.
Personally, I missed Lois in this episode, although it still rocked. Her problem is just a chronic mishandling of her character, but she still has major potential. The writers are just terrified of going beneath the surface layer of the character, and that ruins it.
KristinIsAwesome
11-11-2005, 12:44 PM
Wow... I didnt even realize she wasnt in it till just now... thats pretty funny..
johnny fogg
11-11-2005, 12:49 PM
Yes! We have not explored Lois enough! I can just see it now:
Writer 1: Oh, no. If we try to structure and episode around Lois we'll have a ratings disaster like with 'Lucy'!
Writer 2: Don't even think about it. Al and Miles will have our ass.
Writer 1: But it's getting a little ridiculous. We give her top billing over Allison, and all she provides is comic relief and T&A, not to mention--
Writer 2: Hey, if you wanna go shipped back to writing for Laguna Beach, keep talking. Otherwise keep your trap shut.
Writer 1: I hate the viewers. They're so mindless they don't even realize they're stifling my creative process.
Writer 2: I know. I hate them. I have the utmost contempt for them.
Writer 1: Well, okay. Let's try and compete with 'Lost' by introducing a desert island.
Writer 2: It's been done! The last writers stranded Lex in season 2!
Writer 1: Well, why don't we make it Clark this time? A tropical island riddled with red kryptonite! And one of the female leads...
Writer 2: Ah, right! A plane crash, tropical exile, low-cut Kristen, primal urges surfacing...let's see if we can make it play. Carla, call Durance's people and tell her to take the week off.
Writer 1: How about this for a title: Surface.
Writer 2: About the thing with the primal and the urges thing?
Writer 1: Right, and maybe we can hook some of Surface's audience.
Writer 2: Sweet! Tell Kristen to prep herself, and call Paris Hilton and tell her we're doing callbacks for the part of 'Plane Crash Survivor'.
Originally posted by SteveS
luuke has it right. Lois is for the lightweight filler episodes that need T&A and poorly written comedy.
Notice that ClarkMan did not miss her or mention her as a friend. Apparently she is on the same level as Shelby. (Remember, Nois wanted to name the dog 'Clarkie?')
An episode without Lois is like a day without sarcasm. And it makes for better episodes.
That is just complete false. She was in commencement and if you call that a lightweight filler episode then you are nuts!
Originally posted by Absentee
No Lana and the ratings dipped.
No Lois and the ratings went up :lol:
Yup, Smallvile sure doesn't need Lana Lang... ;)
Love. it. :rotfl:
Well that is just bull!
She was in Aqua and that was the highest rated episode in a long time
And just that you know it. Lana had nothing to do why the ratings went up again.
The rating went up because the episode was about the superman mythos.
Deana
11-11-2005, 01:57 PM
This was my favorite episode of the season, but I still missed Lois.
With Lois in it, it would have been just as good if not better. ;)
Watching Smallville
11-11-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by sunshine1973
ummmm Lois was sadly misssed...wondering too how Clark would have perceived her if she was present?
It's interesting. Lois is the only person in his life without memories where he needs to figure out what's real and what isn't.
katt12
11-11-2005, 03:11 PM
Does anyone know where Lois went? Though it wasn't exactly the meaning for the title, that's what I thought about: she disappeared.
Lois&Clark Fan
11-11-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
well, I m sure Lois will be BACK in the next episode or two. still it wouldve been funny to see Lois also in this episode to see her reaction to Clark's behaviour.
I agree. It would be funny to see Lois and hear her comments. But what I think is that, the reason Lois was absent is, she was the only person that will not betray Clark. I mean Clark would not imagine her betrayal. All the other characters have potential to betray him but Lois have not. This could bring something new to their relationship which is probably early as the producers think.
Originally posted by Lois&Clark Fan
I agree. It would be funny to see Lois and hear her comments. But what I think is that, the reason Lois was absent is, she was the only person that will not betray Clark. I mean Clark would not imagine her betrayal. All the other characters have potential to betray him but Lois have not. This could bring something new to their relationship which is probably early as the producers think.
No, probably because they're not close enough that she doesn't know anything about him to betray him. Chloe and the Kents know the secret, Lana is Clark's love.. What's Lois and what would he imagine?
sstray72
11-11-2005, 03:39 PM
I didn't miss her. Her character is irrelevant.
Absentee
11-11-2005, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by MrED
Well that is just bull!
She was in Aqua and that was the highest rated episode in a long time
And just that you know it. Lana had nothing to do why the ratings went up again.
The rating went up because the episode was about the superman mythos.
Yeah she was in Aqua... I'm sorry but that's just one episode.
I didnt even miss Lois one bit. :lol:
And sure the episode focused on the actual storyline of the mythos, but how do you know people tuned in for that? Did you take a poll?
The numbers don't lie. Thirst took a hit after Aqua aired and it dipped, but it was still HIGH, but it dipped even more when Exposed aired, but then a week later Splinter aired and it slowly climbed back up. I think some people just don't want to accept the fact that the audience just don't really care for Lois and that's that.
How many more proofs do you need? Season 4 was a disaster and can you guess why?
Seriously seasons before that did fine even with crappy storylines but when Lois got on board... errr, well, that speaks for itself. :rotfl:
Watching Smallville
11-11-2005, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Lois&Clark Fan
I agree. It would be funny to see Lois and hear her comments. But what I think is that, the reason Lois was absent is, she was the only person that will not betray Clark. I mean Clark would not imagine her betrayal. All the other characters have potential to betray him but Lois have not. This could bring something new to their relationship which is probably early as the producers think.
I was trying to say the same thing -- you said it much better. Clark has to figure which betrayal memories are real and which aren't for everyone but Lois. From the expression on his face when he was talking to Lana/his parents, it looks like it's going to be hard for him to dismiss everything as iimaginary.
smallville_fetish
11-11-2005, 04:53 PM
It just simply wouldn't have made sense if Lois was in the episode.
They wouldn't know what to do with her because where does she really fit in? She's not close to him like the Kents who would never ship their son off to the lab for experimenting-they'd do everything they can to protect him. Chloe would never betray or sell Clark out. Clark has fears of his girlfriend cheating on him with the person who's his least favorite. He also saw the threat of Lex being the one to kill him. All this makes sense cuz all these people are close to Clark and all these people Clark has shown affection to.
Even if Lois is his future love, he has no interest in her right now. Besides, she was probably at the Talon banging Aquaman in the shower that whole time. :P
(Just jokes)
sstray72
11-11-2005, 04:56 PM
All of the delusions were based on something that happened in the past (yes it was beautiful) but Lois has never done anything to Clark that was bad, so there would be no basis for a delusion about Lois.
Well, a good delusion would be Lois actually being an award-winning journalist...
artiist1284
11-11-2005, 04:58 PM
IMO, so please don't hate me cuz I'm a delicate person, LOL.
1. I didn't think the show was so "Bravo", all the Characters acting seem way off, maybe cuz it was just showing you, from Clark's parinoid POV, but still the whole show itself was just way off, not normal way of showing or dealing with things. I don't know how else to explain it in words then saying , that it was off.
Don't get me wrong it had some good parts, but the show was just off in ways.
2. Please stop with the Lois hating!
I have to admit when I first saw her I couldn't stand her. I was like, this is the person they had to portray the beloved Lois Lane. Are they freaking nuts!
But like they say, never judge a book by it's cover, because as the shows went on, and I saw more of her Character. I can't possibly see any one else playing Lois Lane or get enough of seeing her on the show.
All that hate (IMO, so don't hate me plz, and post up We hate artiist1284 thread up here, LOL) Lois Lane because, ya'll can't except the fact that she is the one who ends up with Clark Kent, and not Lana Lang.
You can't except that he is more of a better person, smiles more, laughs more, more fun around Lois.
And that he acts strange and Fake around Lana Lang, they absolutely have no chemistry around each other.
Can't except Lois cuz of her sacasm, cuz you have no sence of humor.
Can't except Lois, because you feel Lana was there first, and she should get Clark.
I Have a whole lot of other reasons, but don't really feel like typing anymore at this point.
I agree Lana is a beautiful person, charming, etc, but her character is just getting really weird and fake, which I don't hold against her or hate her cuz I don't hate anyone, it's not in my nature too. (Unless your my brother, Just kidding, LOL)
Does that mean I like Lana more then Lois, no way. I think Lois Lane totaly rocks! And she's the best thing that happen on Smallville!
But like I said, it's my opinion, that I'm entitled to as well as everyone else.
So let me leave on this note, that the best part of Splinter was:
The Fusion car commercial, with Lois driving in that hot red car! LOL!
Like I said I'm very fragile so please don't email me any hate letters tonight. We are all friends here. LOL!
( I know I have typeo's so just sue me! LOL!)
batfinx
11-11-2005, 05:12 PM
Wow... I didnt even realize she wasnt in it till just now... thats pretty funny
That's how it was with Exposed. I didn't realize Lana wasn't in it till it ended :lol:
No Lana and the ratings dipped.
No Lois and the ratings went up
Lois wasn't in Hidden and its ratings dipped from Mortal and Mortal got the exact same rating Gone got last year when Lana was dating Jason. You're not going to find your ships or fave characters in the ratings numbers no matter who you ship, or who your fave character is, unless you're a big Aquaman fan, which got the highest ratings.
Clana fans are probably the most guilty of trying to spin the numbers in their favor or find excuses why an episode like Hidden didn't do as well, but Chlarkers and Clois fans also play the spin game as well.
Wow. I hadn't realized until now the correlation betwene Lois's presence and bad eppys
You liked Thirst? Whoa :D
I didn't miss her. Her character is irrelevant.
In the real Superman myth Chloe and Lana are irrelevant, so I think it does even out.
How many more proofs do you need? Season 4 was a disaster and can you guess why?
For me it was Lana being possessed by a witch and a tattoo that never ended up meaning anything ;)
The numbers don't lie. Thirst took a hit after Aqua aired and it dipped, but it was still HIGH, but it dipped even more when Exposed aired, but then a week later Splinter aired and it slowly climbed back up.
Aqua was the highest rated and it rose the ratings after Hidden took a dip after Mortal. By your logic the Clana sex in Mortal was so unpopular that when trailers showed Clana sex was still going on in Hidden that caused Hidden to take a dip in the ratings. That's my point, no matter what ship or character you want to say helped or hurt the ratings, you're going to be wrong because they seem to have nothing whatsoever to do with the numbers.
No, probably because they're not close enough that she doesn't know anything about him to betray him. Chloe and the Kents know the secret, Lana is Clark's love..
Is she, or is she an obsession Brainiac planted in Clark's mind? We now know Brainiac has no good intentions for Clark, so why did he really want Lana spared? I think it's because he knows Lana makes Clark weak and resist his destiny as a hero ;)
smallville_fetish
11-11-2005, 05:19 PM
Yeah it's accept and not except. You just criticized Lana then said you don't hate her then said you couldn't stand Lois but you like her . Umm okay.. Well everyones entitled to their opinion even if it's hard to get.
LOL sstray72. That would've hella funny. But also irrelevant like you said before.
Timester
11-11-2005, 05:24 PM
It's easy. TPTB should make her starting moving her lovely butt and stump her "Lois Lane-in-training" all over her and that would work. AlMiles love their little ironies, but enough is enough.
Originally posted by artiist1284
2. Please stop with the Lois hating!
I have to admit when I first saw her I couldn't stand her. I was like, this is the person they had to portray the beloved Lois Lane. Are they freaking nuts!
But like they say, never judge a book by it's cover, because as the shows went on, and I saw more of her Character. I can't possibly see any one else playing Lois Lane or get enough of seeing her on the show.
I'm not judging her by her cover. In fact, I've opened up the book and hated what I've seen.
All that hate (IMO, so don't hate me plz, and post up We hate artiist1284 thread up here, LOL) Lois Lane because, ya'll can't except the fact that she is the one who ends up with Clark Kent, and not Lana Lang.
:rotfl: :lol: Yeah, right. I'm not a Clana fan, neither are most of the people in here. We don't like the character of Lois, her views, her direction.. It's not because she ends up with Clark, it's because she's not the person who ends up with Clark.
You can't except that he is more of a better person, smiles more, laughs more, more fun around Lois.
You're judging what I accept without knowing my opinion of the show? He's a better person around her? Umm, okay..? I seriously doubt it.
And that he acts strange and Fake around Lana Lang, they absolutely have no chemistry around each other.
How's he act strange? Because he doesn't constantly being made fun of by her?
Can't except Lois cuz of her sacasm, cuz you have no sence of humor.
Excuse me? Now you know my sense of humor? I am a relatively funny person and love comedies. The fact that Lois is just around for comedic relief annoys me and gets really old.
Can't except Lois, because you feel Lana was there first, and she should get Clark.
Why are you still assuming you know what I feel about Lois, Lana, etc.? I don't think Lana should get Clark, I think Lois Lane should get Clark. And SV!Lois isn't the Lois I want to get Clark.
artiist1284
11-11-2005, 05:42 PM
I know sorry Smallville fetish.
I'm a confusing person at times, not very good with words.
I have a host of personalities in my head, pulling me in all directions. LOL
but we all agree on one thing Lois Lane rocks!!!
Before any one else get highly upset at me. I clearly state. IMO which means if you don't know, IN MY OPINION!
I wasn't stateing anything cuz I was trying to be cruel or stateing it as a Fact. It's an Opinion you know one's thoughts and point of veiw, something not entirely true, based on everyone on the world just an OPINION, people plz lighten up!
batfinx
11-11-2005, 05:48 PM
Yeah, right. I'm not a Clana fan, neither are most of the people in here. We don't like the character of Lois, her views, her direction.. It's not because she ends up with Clark, it's because she's not the person who ends up with Clark
True, some are Chloe/Chlark/Chlois fans, some of whom hate Lois for the same reason Clana fans do ;)
artiist1284
11-11-2005, 06:10 PM
(Also I state IMO, and stat again IMO!)
she's in the show, get over with.
If tpbt or however you put it wanted the show about the regular superman persona. It would have been named Superman, and not Smallville so you should come to realize that they're not going entirely by the book, and that there're gonna be diffrent changes to what we expect or want but it's not our show to decide what goes and what doesen't. So plz get over it, Lois Lane is there, she is played by Erica Durance. I'm for one is happy that Lois is there and is portrayed by ED. if you can't then that's just a conflict you have to reslove yourself, cuz no one can change your mind if you don't want it changed.
Peace and Love to everyone!
Before any one else get highly upset at me. I clearly state. IMO which means if you don't know, IN MY OPINION!
I wasn't stateing anything cuz I was trying to be cruel or stateing it as a Fact. It's an Opinion you know one's thoughts and point of veiw, something not entirely true, based on everyone on the world just an OPINION, people plz lighten up!
To say IMO is one thing, but to tell someone why we can't accept Lois in SV is another. I accept her, I just don't like her.
Originally posted by batfinx
True, some are Chloe/Chlark/Chlois fans, some of whom hate Lois for the same reason Clana fans do ;)
Yeah, and some are those that feel Lois doesn't display Lois Lane type qualities or that she has no relevance on the show.
SteveS
11-11-2005, 07:08 PM
"I think some people just don't want to accept the fact that the audience just don't really care for Lois and that's that."
Ah, the ugly truth raises it's head.
Mr. Ed, I do know that 'a horse is a horse, of course, of course, and no one can talk to a horse, of course, unless it is the famous Mr. Ed..."
It is fine for someone or anyone to post opposing opinions, but as Aqua pointed out, when one gives out instructions as to how others must accept an opinion in line with yours, artiist1284, then expect the love to end. "Hate" is the term Loisettes use to describe those of us who find Lois a deficient person on most every quality of character. It is a difference in values. As I have stated on many occasions, I fully expect to like ('luv') Kate Bosworth's version of Lois Lane in "Superman Returns."
For those that were really concerned, Lois was planning her future career. She was playing video games at the Talon.
(and she wasn't a fly speck in Clark's thinking during this program).
For her fans, just wait a while until there is some semi-nudity or boobilicious scenes and Lois will be right back.
attitudejc
11-11-2005, 07:16 PM
well, i'd say we have some mixed opions here. (pointing out the obvious)
Happy Random
11-11-2005, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Jlandsw
It's funny, I said the exact same thing about Lana in last week's episode :D
Whats with all the Lois haters??
That is what I would like to know. And I was with you on the Lana thing. :D Nothing against her, but I can only take so much Clana.... :)
BlueNRed2
11-11-2005, 07:41 PM
Its always interesting how people analyze the viewing numbers.
For example, you have some people stating that Aqua had the highest ratings this season. This must mean that ED is great and draws viewers!
On the other side, we have people describing the latent effect. Aqua's high viewing scores were the result of Hidden's success!
Personally, i agree with the latent effect on viewer numbers. Sure, Aqua had a very high viewership but that doesnt necessarily translate into those viewers enjoying the episode. This of course is arguable based on advertising and other factors.
It would be interesting to see how the professionals actually view the polling data and if their views hit anywhere near the above interpretations.
Back on topic tho...where was Lois this episode? Probably exploring her newly /cough exposed /cough talents at the local strip club.
lastdaughterofkrypton
11-11-2005, 07:49 PM
I think they could had wirted in the show Clark could had hear Chloe was telling his secret to her cousin and she could say something I never liked him I knew there was something wrong about him or maybe in the farm he could hear that the Kents wanted her to be their daughter (stealing his place like she took his bedroom ;)) and never loved the freaking alien boy...
They just didn't wanna waste ED guest starring when they had only 13 episodes they need to put her where she can strip and kick ass and annoy Clark :D
Originally posted by SteveS
Mr. Ed, I do know that 'a horse is a horse, of course, of course, and no one can talk to a horse, of course, unless it is the famous Mr. Ed..."
Was this directed at me??. Because i have no clue what the hell you are talking about.
talespin
11-11-2005, 09:25 PM
lois is on 13 of the 22 episodes and erica who plays lois is a great actor vikingjedi it seems you don`t like her character
Slytherin Princess
11-11-2005, 09:37 PM
i was a little disappointed that Lois wasn’t there, but I felt that she didn’t have too much to add to the overall story. i mean, let's face it. she barely knows clark. so she can't hold anything against him. but it would have been nice to hear an explanation of her absence. :)
Kreukie
11-12-2005, 12:08 AM
Saying that it's only Clana/Lana Fans who dislike Lois is pretty damn off.
Go to TWOP, not a Clana/Lana fanbase by any means and those people dislike Lois with a passion.
batfinx
11-12-2005, 01:36 AM
Go to TWOP, not a Clana/Lana fanbase by any means and those people dislike Lois with a passion.
Because at TWOP they're mainly Chloe/Chlois fans. Most of them also hate Lana with a passion at TWOP. They often hate Clark and call him an ass hat. They hate Lois because she's Lois, which means Chloe isn't. They hate Lana because they believe she gets everything she wants and gets away with every bad thing she does. They hate Clark because he chose Lana to drool over instead of Chloe. They originally hated Clark for his mistreatment of Lex and you still see some of that at TWOP.
There are also Clana sites that hate both Chloe and Lois with a passion. They revel in calling Lois "grandma" and calling Chloe "fat motor mouth". They hate Lois because she ends up with Clark and they hate Chloe because she's more important than Lana to the story lines and she knows Clark's secret.
It's one thing to have a favorite ship or character, but sometimes the nastiness putting down other ships and characters is way over the top.
Slytherin Princess
11-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by batfinx
Because at TWOP they're mainly Chloe/Chlois fans. Most of them also hate Lana with a passion at TWOP. They often hate Clark and call him an ass hat. They hate Lois because she's Lois, which means Chloe isn't. They hate Lana because they believe she gets everything she wants and gets away with every bad thing she does. They hate Clark because he chose Lana to drool over instead of Chloe. They originally hated Clark for his mistreatment of Lex and you still see some of that at TWOP.
There are also Clana sites that hate both Chloe and Lois with a passion. They revel in calling Lois "grandma" and calling Chloe "fat motor mouth". They hate Lois because she ends up with Clark and they hate Chloe because she's more important than Lana to the story lines and she knows Clark's secret.
It's one thing to have a favorite ship or character, but sometimes the nastiness putting down other ships and characters is way over the top.
ooh! i applaud thee. very well written... and so very true. :D
SteveS
11-12-2005, 03:16 PM
Actually, Omar's reviews of Smallville's episodes make it entirely clear why he doesn't like Lois and it is typically immature to ignore what Loisettes don't want to hear about why their heroine is disliked. Very rarely will you hear anyone say they dislike "Lois because she is Lois," rather the reasons, like Omar's, are clearly stated.
Watching Smallville
11-12-2005, 03:21 PM
By the same token, recognize that those of us who do like Lois, like her precisely because of the way ED portrays her. It's not that we don't understand why others may not like her. It's that we react in a positive way rather than a negative one to the same portrayal. If people don't like her, that's their prerogative. :) It doesn't mean Lois fans don't have good reasons for liking Smallville's version of this character. :cool:
Shinzon2004
11-12-2005, 03:23 PM
I believe that Lois wasnt needed at all in Smallville.
I have a theory that she was added because of Lana....
Clark needed another love interest,but Chloe was just fine.
Lois Lane in Smallville:Face it,she was never there in the comics or in the movies.Tptb ruined the Superman mythos from there because it is written:Clark Kent is destined to meet Lois
in Metropolis and in the Daily Planet.
And to be honest it is better this way.
Slytherin Princess
11-12-2005, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Shinzon2004
I believe that Lois wasnt needed at all in Smallville.
I have a theory that she was added because of Lana....
Clark needed another love interest,but Chloe was just fine.
Lois Lane in Smallville:Face it,she was never there in the comics or in the movies.Tptb ruined the Superman mythos from there because it is written:Clark Kent is destined to meet Lois
in Metropolis and in the Daily Planet.
And to be honest it is better this way.
but clark wasn't suppose to lose his virginity to lana. it was suppose to be in metropolis, with lois being his first. but they didn't follow that up either.
Christine C
11-12-2005, 03:47 PM
I really liked this episode. I don't think they needed Lois to make it better. Clark knows she doesn't act like she thinks too much of him 100% of the time, so how dramatic would it be for him to feel Lois was betraying him. It had to be the people he's had a history with, and was closest too.
So you're saying that if you hate Lois because of your shipper preference, that doesn't count? The reason might not be as scientific as you want it to be, but it's still valid.
Christine C
11-12-2005, 03:55 PM
I also agree with the statement about adding Lois Lane to Smallville. To be blunt she's already been there from the beginning,(lol) Chole.
SteveS
11-12-2005, 04:22 PM
"By the same token, recognize that those of us who do like Lois, like her precisely because of the way ED portrays her. It's not that we don't understand why others may not like her. It's that we react in a positive way rather than a negative one to the same portrayal. If people don't like her, that's their prerogative. It doesn't mean Lois fans don't have good reasons for liking Smallville's version of this character. "
Absolutely fine and dandy. My point was, let's be clear on what are the reasons for our different opinions and someone posting "they hate Lois because they hate the character" is incorrect for most every person that I have read who dislikes EDLois, it is the characterization of that famous name about which we have widely divergent opinions.
Laguine
11-15-2005, 04:36 AM
I hope that they keep her for all the last episodes to have a romance with Clark. That would be awesome!!!!!
johnny fogg
11-15-2005, 09:05 AM
Wake up people! They only bring in Lois for the weak episodes! She's misused as a ratings gimmick and yet she surpasses Allison in the credits! Big knockers equals better billing! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Watching Smallville
11-16-2005, 01:32 PM
I'm not sure I want to see a romance, but I'm glad they brought in Lois. Al and Miles have said they were trying to bring Lois into the show for a long time, and were just waiting until they found the right person. I was very skeptical about introducing Lois while Clark was still in Smallville -- it went against what I always liked about the Superman story, that he met Lois at the Daily Planet. But I have to say, I like the dynamic the Lois character brings to the show, her relationship with Chloe, her toughness, and a point of view that's outside of Smallville's weird events. I especially like what she brings out in Clark--something impatient and edgy.
In some ways, I think the show treats ED the same way they treated KK, not quite knowing how to write a good story for her. Maybe they'll figure it out this year. They're sure doing a better job w/ Lana's Season 5 story line so far.
johnny fogg
11-16-2005, 01:34 PM
When Lana and Clark finally do part ways, they will almost certainly show Clark suddenly developing attraction to Lois. There's no reason not to, especially since that plays into the metropolis future and it doesn't hurt continuity.
But you're right, they are terrified of writing themselves into a corner like in s.4.
Supersonic
11-16-2005, 02:00 PM
@ the comment about Lois preceding Chloe cuz of her "Bazookas"
I totally agree. I love chloe is soooo much more!
johnny fogg
11-16-2005, 02:10 PM
Chloe also has bazookas. Last I checked, ptb. :mad:
AM is a great actress and has an extraordinary look. She had a forty-megawatt smile in season one and she still does!
KryptoniteLacedPie
11-16-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Jlandsw
It's funny, I said the exact same thing about Lana in last week's episode :D
Whats with all the Lois haters?? -shoos away Lois haters- I said the exact same thing about Lana last week as well :)
johnny fogg
11-16-2005, 03:20 PM
Erica Durance is awesome as Lois. Seperate the actress from the lines, grasshopper. Picture a pink golfball in your mind...
smoky
11-17-2005, 10:19 AM
Lois can only be in the same # of episodes she was in last year, I think 13?, so that means there are 9 episodes she will not be in. They already knew that when the season began. Just like they knew KK would miss 2 weeks because she would be filming a movie.
johnny fogg
11-17-2005, 11:27 AM
It would be AWESOME if Chloe doesn't die, but...I think they're throwing in the towel early with her.
smoky
11-17-2005, 11:47 AM
Why do you think that?
johnny fogg
11-17-2005, 01:02 PM
Well, to be perfectly honest, I think the writers want to move on. Lois has not really had many chances to do much or be relevant in the show, mainly because she has so little to contribute. She and Clark do not willingly hang out together, they need Chloe as an excuse.
Also, they have not been able to come up with a way to show her transition into reporting. I suspect they wanted to get rid of Chloe for some time, that's why she learned Clark's secret and why they introduced her mental history last season. So there is no reason to believe they want to keep her around, and every reason to believe she's going to die. Soon.
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