"I'll die before I ever reveal your secret"

[ManWithoutFear]

"I'll die before I ever reveal your secret"
did anybody notice when chloe said this towards the end of the episode? Was that a big hint from TPTB??

[Touchdown]

I believe its a red herring, no way would they be that obvious about their little secret.

[SteveS]

Exactly. It would take and SAT combined score of 800 to figure out the obvious deception of it.

[Clark Kent 86]

Maybe it is all a ploy by TPTB, they get us thinking that that is way to obvious and that chloe is safe, just when we start thinking that BAM! Chloe is toast.

[LuckyKrypto]

We wondered the same thing when we heard that at my house~
I can never tell what the writers are going to do! :confused:

[ma200]

It's kinda getting tiresome. First she "dies." Then there's Chloe's nightmare and now this? It's pretty clear to me that she's nothing more than a transitional character that TPTB can just use and play with all they want.

[Happy Random]

I would be sad if they killed Chloe off. :( I think she is an awesome character.

[Billy Jor-El]

Nope, no one noticed it...there's only a zillion threads on this subject so far :p

It's a natural thing for anyone to say to someone they trust/love. I was wondering exactly what Chloe was thinking while Clark was hugging her?

And I did like her comment that for once she was glad not to be the object of his affections, seeing as how he nearly dissected Lana!

The show needs to be more cryptic than an obvious..."oh, I'm gonna die" statement....after all, these cryptics are Kryptonian, an alledged superior civilization, eh what?

[Kriminal]

That quote looks bad for chloe but if the new episode rumors are true then she has nothing to worry about

[bluegayle]

well in this one episode, we see two examples that chloe still at least thinks about the times when she was interested in clark.

first she says, she's glad that she's not the object of clark's affection. and secondly, that face when she hugged clark is her face when she's just being brave to deny her feelings and she really just wants to fall into this arms and melt away.

so by not writing about it in the recent episodes, we dont feel as badly for chloe in the whole clark-lana hooplah. but i think that story line is about to rear it's little head again as the season goes on.

we know now that lana is keeping a secret from clark. chloe currently has just "come clean" about her contact with lionel luthro, so as far as we the audience knows, she isn't attempting some little charade.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Sorry someone here mentioned Chloe having a nightmare but I can't remeber could you tell me what is all about and in what episode was said? Thanks :)

[ma200]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Sorry someone here mentioned Chloe having a nightmare but I can't remeber could you tell me what is all about and in what episode was said? Thanks :)

"Scare." It doesn't mean that she will die but that there's a possibility that she might end up like her mom. To me, it just shows that TPTB can use and abuse Chloe all they want. If they're going to kill her they will very likely do it on the very last episode. It's all about timing.

[Alchemeron]

Chloe will probably die before the end of the series.

Jonathan Kent is going to die before Superman Returns comes out next summer, to vaguely sync it up with that film.

Martha getting sick in the trailer is a red herring.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by ma200
"Scare." It doesn't mean that she will die but that there's a possibility that she might end up like her mom. To me, it just shows that TPTB can use and abuse Chloe all they want. If they're going to kill her they will very likely do it on the very last episode. It's all about timing.
Oh that!!!!
I consider scare experiences as visions or hallucinations that is why I didn't connected it. :D
And that line scare the hell out of me. I hope they are just playing but I wouldn't put past them to kill Chloe :( she still could be in the show possesing Lois body like Lior-L or as a ghost or some other utter crap I will not find peace till 100th.:mad:

[sprman808]

Chloe = Dead... get used to it.... if she can't show flesh...she's a goner

:p

[kostaki00]

If Chloe dies, I'm going to kill myself!
I'm in love with her.

[jim[beam]]

Chloe wont die for sure...she's too important to die. Maybe the whole 'important person is gonna die' is just a person with a Near Death Experience and then comes back or something lol...

-jim

[SonHisCheast]

im just thinking out side the box here but does anybody remember what happen in hourglass when the old lady pridicted that somebody close to clark would die and we all worried that it would be a main caracter but it turned out to be her i hope something similar happens this time just hopeing here and wondering if anybody else has thought of this?:confused:

[hjkuzcotopia]

I was yelling "don't say that" at the TV when Chloe said she'd die before betraying Clark, but now after thinking about it I don't think it will be her. I think they are just planting us with comments like that so we'll be surprised by who does die.

[BeldarofRemulak]

This made me so scared for her...AM did say that this was suppose to be a big year for Chloe...I am just hope its not a big year in Death!

[loistickyfingerz]

I was yelling too! I felt like my heart was ripped out when Chloe said the awful words "I would die...". I was like "NO! Don't say that!"

I am hoping because they put that out there, perhaps, it is a red herring, and they are trying to make up believe that Chloe will go so we will be surprise when she lives....I hope....

[No-El]

Originally posted by Clark Kent 86
Maybe it is all a ploy by TPTB, they get us thinking that that is way to obvious and that chloe is safe, just when we start thinking that BAM! Chloe is toast.

You all know I'm a Chlark/Chloe fan----but, don't me wrong or take this the wrong way, OK?

The way you "phrased" your wording in that comment and just the "imagination" of all of us not wanting Chloe's demise made that statement humorous---just by the surprise impact TPTB would do to us!!

Were you kidding or just phrasing your wording for humorous impact?? Anyway it worked (doin' a Lionel Luthor grin):D


Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
Nope, no one noticed it...there's only a zillion threads on this subject so far :p

It's a natural thing for anyone to say to someone they trust/love. I was wondering exactly what Chloe was thinking while Clark was hugging her?

And I did like her comment that for once she was glad not to be the object of his affections, seeing as how he nearly dissected Lana!

The show needs to be more cryptic than an obvious..."oh, I'm gonna die" statement....after all, these cryptics are Kryptonian, an alledged superior civilization, eh what?


You noticed that Lana once again ends up in a hospital bed for the millionth time with Clark as usual by her side??:confused: :\

Why do they do that every 4th or 5th episode to poor Lana, not to mention throwing poor Pa Kent around??:( :(

Those are for another thread I suppose but someone beat me to the title for this thread we're on>>:mad:

[SteveS]

I will stick with a pronostication I made weeks ago, 'death' with come for Lionel and the disembodied Jor-el. Not Chloe.

[LaineSV11]

I was going to make a thread about this... but of course someone beats me!! ah.. oh well

maybe clark realized that chloe cares about him a lot more than lana does(well dont yell at me because i don't know exactly how anyone feels), because i don't think lana would die keeping a secret... clark trusts chloe more than lana now.. ok off topic

i thought that chloe would die protecting his secret from someone(lex i presume.. if he goes crazy).. but pete got kicked to the curb(friend who knows his secret) so i don't thin they would kill chloe off that soon... maybe at the last episode, because the writers know that over half the people would hate the show if she died.. but they might be tricking us somehow.. oh well

[No-El]

Originally posted by BeldarofRemulak
This made me so scared for her...AM did say that this was suppose to be a big year for Chloe...I am just hope its not a big year in Death!


I'm not worried anymore ladies and gents, not in the least!!:) :) :)

Because------Allison is LOCKED in for the duration!!!:D :cool:

That's why I can post without fear. However, (and here it comes folks) big Al and company love to throw curves and Jonathan and Martha Kent's remark about stress and heart condition running for Senate is just another clue to TPTB throwing "fast balls" at us.

These guys are going for "full shock value" and it's working on us too!!:mad:

[Wheelz]

I was struck by the fact he didn't say anything to that. especially after Alicia almost died trying to protect his secret.

Apparently Clark feels that keeping Lana oblivious to the fact she's getting plowed by an alien out is more important than Chloe's life.

[Spoon AZ]

I think it was a very clever bit written by DeKnight to put doubt in our minds about who bites it this season.

Everyone was so sure it Jonathan. With that one line, now no one is sure.

[GhostRider]

There is a 50/50 chance between this being a foreshadow and a misdirection. Therefore I don't think we can take anything from it in that regard.

I was bothered that Clark just hugged her. Isn't someone he cares about losing their life over the secret one of his fears? It seemed OOC for him not to tell Chloe that the secret wasn't worth dying for first.

[luuke]

Originally posted by GhostRider
There is a 50/50 chance between this being a foreshadow and a misdirection. Therefore I don't think we can take anything from it in that regard.

I was bothered that Clark just hugged her. Isn't someone he cares about losing their life over the secret one of his fears? It seemed OOC for him not to tell Chloe that the secret wasn't worth dying for first.


tbh thats what his gestures basically meant.. at least thats what i think... this whole hug is much more more than just words.. but hey.. everyones perception is different ;)

[Watching Smallville]

I agree about not being happy with the hug. After all, Clark was willing to break Lex out of Belle Reve when Lex knew the secret. He shouldn't support Chloe's statement with a hug. He should say, "Mmmm, let's not go overboard." Even though it was a sweet moment. :)

Interesting question. I don't think Clark believes the secret is worth someone's life. I think he has said that in the past... Not sure. :\

[pixiedust]

It's actually a pretty good bit of reverse psychology. It seems so obvious giving Chloe that line that it would foreshadow her being the one to die. But since it seems so obvious, it would lead you to think they wouldn't do it then. So if they do go with Chloe dying, it would come as more of a surprise because you thought you were misdirected and it wasn't going to be her after all.

Confused? Yep, that's how they want it.

But if it is a true foreshadowing, it wouldn't be the first time they have used one so heavy handed.

For my money, I don't want her or the Kents to die.

[Spoon AZ]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I agree about not being happy with the hug. After all, Clark was willing to break Lex out of Belle Reve when Lex knew the secret. He shouldn't support Chloe's statement with a hug. He should say, "Mmmm, let's not go overboard." Even though it was a sweet moment. :)

Interesting question. I don't think Clark believes the secret is worth someone's life. I think he has said that in the past... Not sure. :\

I don't think Clark was taking her statement at face value. I think he thought she was just using a colorful hyperbole.

I mean how many times does people say "I'd die before..." and you really believe they'll sacrifice themselves?

[Watching Smallville]

She looked so serious. I think she meant it.

[superspider02]

i know she wont be the one dieing in the 100th episode but i do see her dieing like in the very last episode protecting clark and he just does not make it to her in time and she is killed by mos likely lex

[Spoon AZ]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
She looked so serious. I think she meant it.

I'm not saying SHE didn't mean it.

But I don't think Clark took it at face value.

[Liriel]

Originally posted by Spoon AZ
I'm not saying SHE didn't mean it.

But I don't think Clark took it at face value.


You're probably right. But he should. I mean, he knows Pete got tortured over this secret, right?

[Spoon AZ]

Sure.

He's seems to have trouble expressing any real feelings around Chloe for some reason.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Spoon AZ
I'm not saying SHE didn't mean it.

But I don't think Clark took it at face value.

If he doesn't think she means it, he needs to take the effect he has on people more seriously. Chloe adores him. He knows she does. He needs to hear her when she says something like this.

But you're probabably right. He probably thinks she's just being loyal.

[superwannabuffy]

You know how since Smallville is a prequel to the superman story and they always have characters saying stuff in the present that we all know is going to happen in the future. Maybe Chloe's statement was one of those type of lines but because she she is a new character and doesnt have a known history, its hard to tell. Maybe something happens in the future that involves Chloe dieing while protecting Clarks secret and when the shows over we'll be able to look back and see that her statement had some future meaning to it.

[No-El]

Originally posted by superwannabuffy
You know how since Smallville is a prequel to the superman story and they always have characters saying stuff in the present that we all know is going to happen in the future. Maybe Chloe's statement was one of those type of lines but because she she is a new character and doesnt have a known history, its hard to tell. Maybe something happens in the future that involves Chloe dieing while protecting Clarks secret and when the shows over we'll be able to look back and see that her statement had some future meaning to it.


That's an interesting take on her longevity! I thought I saw an interview article that had a quote saying.....

....."Allison explains why her character Chloe is not included in Superman's future"....

Somebody find where this is please?:( :( :confused:

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

I' ve been thinking that maybe this sin't foreshadow for death but for BETRAYAL! I mean Chloe is great and I love her but what if in order to gain more people to the Lois side the play the evil Chloe card again? I don't know in what posible way they could make it beleiveable thoug, maybe Chloe will have to face death to keep Clark's secret but in the end she will choose to live by betraying him, this could make a lot of people think that Chloe is too weak and Clark has every reason not ot ever love her back. TPTB are cheap as that even thoug my vote goes on Lana's betrayal first but that is another thread...hope I'm reading to much into it :(

[Watching Smallville]

I hope they don't repeat what they did w/ Alicia, where she swears to keep the secret and then doesn't. I'd like to see more strength from Chloe. That's they way they've drawn the character. Even when she was "working for" Lionel and angry w/ Clark, she didn't reveal anything.

[Poweranimals]

You gotta recognize yo. Chloe must die.

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by sprman808
Chloe = Dead... get used to it.... if she can't show flesh...she's a goner

:p

Using that logic then Lana should have died along time ago considering all the times KK used a body double. An actress' prerogative. Lana is pretty modest too. Both were well covered up in Aqua if you think about it. Chloe may die before SV ends (though I hope not), but it won't be because "she can't show flesh". There are tons of Chloevage threads.:)

[sstray72]

I had a feeling that Chloe was going to say something like that as they were talking, and then... "I'd rather die..." Arrrgh...

I do agree that this may be a clever misdirection.

I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but as Martha was expressing her concern for Jonathan's stress levels during the election, she made sure to note that the election was in January, which just happens to be just prior to the air date of episode 100... That's a subtle foreshadowing, IMO. My vote is still the daddies Kent and Luthor to bite it.

[No-El]

Originally posted by sstray72
I had a feeling that Chloe was going to say something like that as they were talking, and then... "I'd rather die..." Arrrgh...

I do agree that this may be a clever misdirection.

I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but as Martha was expressing her concern for Jonathan's stress levels during the election, she made sure to note that the election was in January, which just happens to be just prior to the air date of episode 100... That's a subtle foreshadowing, IMO. My vote is still the daddies Kent and Luthor to bite it.


I agree with you and notice the same thing about the Kent's election deal.:)

[Magus]

There's a thread just like this, tho i think this thread was made first. Anyways, i think she just said it to prove to him that she wouldn't reveal his secret.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Magus
There's a thread just like this, tho i think this thread was made first. Anyways, i think she just said it to prove to him that she wouldn't reveal his secret.


PRECISELY!!!:D :D :D

[smallville_fetish]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I hope they don't repeat what they did w/ Alicia, where she swears to keep the secret and then doesn't.

I thought this was some foreshadowing of Chloe's possible death. Like when Alicia sweared to keep his secret and carry it to her grave, which she didn't and resulted in her being in her own grave. Like I said before, Let that be a lesson to all of you who swear on your mom's and other people's grave!!


[i]I'd like to see more strength from Chloe. That's they way they've drawn the character. Even when she was "working for" Lionel and angry w/ Clark, she didn't reveal anything. [/B]

But, this is why she probably won't be dying. She really won't betray Clark especially now that he trustes her. Before, he didn't, and that sort of angered her to sell him off to Lional. But more importanatly, to find out what was so intriguing about Clark that would attract such a man like Lional. Smallville watcher raised some interesting point. Overall I too think Chloe is and will continue to be a good friend to both Clark and Lana.

And another quesiton I have for you Chloe fans who pay attention to this more than I do.. did Chloe really know about Clark's power "since last year" when the Kents asked her? Or the time she acted like she figured Clark out in Arivial on her own without crediting that it was Alicia who showed her his powers?

[LaineSV11]

this thread was made first.. the other one has like 1 post..

so what do we think so far...
Chloe-don't think so/possibly(that line gave a 50/50)
Jonathan-maybe
Lionel/Jor-El-maybe
Martha-don't think so
Lana-don't think so(well she might, it would be a surprise)

who else is there..... you should say what you think about each character

[Spoon AZ]

Originally posted by sstray72
I had a feeling that Chloe was going to say something like that as they were talking, and then... "I'd rather die..." Arrrgh...

I do agree that this may be a clever misdirection.

I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but as Martha was expressing her concern for Jonathan's stress levels during the election, she made sure to note that the election was in January, which just happens to be just prior to the air date of episode 100... That's a subtle foreshadowing, IMO. My vote is still the daddies Kent and Luthor to bite it.

I definitely agree. It's a clever misdirection.

The papa's Kent and Luthor bite it. To further mirror Clark and Lex's parallel journey's to light and darkness. Both at key points in the young men's developments towards manhood. Allowing them to finally become their own persons.

[ms.c.]

I don't think anyone should die to protect Clark's secret again.

Remember that's kinda what Clark feels happened with Alicia. He thinks that if he had been honest with people about his secret and trusted Alicia more that she wouldn't have died. I don't think Clark should have any more guilt to carry around b/c someone died to keep his secret. He isn't Batman. He doesn't protect humanity out of vengeance or guilt but because he cares about people and it is INSIDE of him to WANT to help people. He shouldn't need someone's death to push him in that direction.

[Zoghade]

The line seemed sort of thrown in/forced. Like it wasn't supposed to be there, but they didn't care and pushed it into the dialogue anyway. So, I'm not going to trust it as a "sign of things to come."

[Hemish]

Ok nobody mentioned this one from what I could gather in this thread.

I can't say if it's a hint about Chloe's death but there is something else I saw in that scene and the one with Lana just before that.

Clark was holding Lana's hand (and they went to great effort to show it, multiple times in fact).

The way he was telling the things he saw... the look he gave her when she lied (by omission) about the spaceship and then they show the hands again.

I instantly thought 'human lie detector'. He could feel her reaction to the questions through the hand, heck even hear the heartbeat but we wouldn't catch that beside having the super hearing special effect which would be too obvious.

He feels weird that his girlfriend is lying to him.

THEN you have the super scene with Chloe. The intensity Chloe was pouring into making her point about never telling his secret (and even saying she'd die first) with the camera zooming on her face letting us see the conviction in her eyes ( :p ).

Clark seems to experience relief wshing over him and he just smile and hug Chloe. Showing how much he was touched by what she said. He couldn't detect an iota of lie in what she said hence why no words were needed from his part.

He didn't hug his girlfriend he almost killed and is now in bed at the hospital (they emphazised the hand holding before he exits the room) but hug his best friend.

Like someone else said... he trusts Chloe more than Lana at the end of this episode. Knowing Smallville it won't matter as soon as next episode tho :)

Sorry for the long explanation of my point of view but I couldn't say that in a shorter way. They couldn't think of anything stronger Chloe could tell Clark to initiate his reaction.

[smoky]

Originally posted by Spoon AZ
Sure.

He's seems to have trouble expressing any real feelings around Chloe for some reason. I've noticed that as well. I think we are going to be getting a number of red herrings before someone dies in the 100th episode.

[attitudejc]

maybe clark realized that chloe cares about him a lot more than lana does(well dont yell at me because i don't know exactly how anyone feels), because i don't think lana would die keeping a secret... clark trusts chloe more than lana now.. ok off topic

i thought that chloe would die protecting his secret from someone(lex i presume.. if he goes crazy).. but pete got kicked to the curb(friend who knows his secret) so i don't thin they would kill chloe off that soon... maybe at the last episode, because the writers know that over half the people would hate the show if she died.. but they might be tricking us somehow.. oh well [/B][/QUOTE]

YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lana wouldn't keep his secret! that is almost a fact! i mean she did tell Lex like, gee, i dunno EVERYTHING, in that eppy. (hint: i am not trying to be mean, i am trying to be humoris)

and about the whole thing about makeing it too too too obvious that she would die, so i that case making us beleive that it is pa kent. then they do kill her off just to surprise the fans. well have you realized that this could go in a circle? they might know we know so they change it and then we suspect they changed it, then they know we know so they change it again . . . . . . . and on and on it goes.

[LaineSV11]

i hope i'm right attitudejc... chloe dying would make the show.... weird

hemish.. wow good ideas! i was wondering why clark was having his hands all over her hands.. so now he knows she's a big fat liar and that chloe is a true friend who doesn't lie...

the circle thing would be tiring.. haha.. but they probably already shot the episode... i believe it is jor-el/lionel who does.. because maybe it's jor-els plan.. that he dies and he thinks clark will realize that he loves him.. i think i said that before and no one has agreed with me yet.. oh well

[Lana_Lang #1]

(You have the super scene with Chloe. The intensity Chloe was pouring into making her point about never telling his secret and even saying she'd die first before she told anyone his secret. With the camera zooming on her face letting us see the conviction in her eyes .)

To me it seemed like relief that Chloe told him 100% the truth but as soon as she said the "I'd rather die..." line, something changed in his eyes. Now I don't know if I was the only one to see this but I saw almost immediate worry streak across his face for only a moment, but even as he hugged her it stayed in his eyes.

He realized those are almost exactly the same words Jor-el used!

Then the camera pans in on Chloe, to show her face while they are hugging, she seems surprised by this hug and concerned, she knows something's wrong, that Clark hasn't told her everything about Jor-El. Also she's hugging him quite tightly.

We've had death warnings:

First strike - "Exposed's" Angel Wings

Second Strike - "I'd never betray your secret Clark. I rather die for you than betray your secret."

If there's a third then...I'll be serious worried for Chloe!

Even though I'm worried for Chloe, I still stick with my Lionel and Jor-El theory.

[Liriel]

Does "your secret will never ever leave my lips, no matter what" count?

[Lana_Lang #1]

I don't think so that didn't really allude to death in my opinion.

[LanaandPete]

You guys do realize that Pete said the exact same thing to Clark before

[attitudejc]

really? do you possibly remember which eppy?

[Bumperjeep]

I thikn that quote also said something aobut if Chole is goiung to survive through next season. However, if you look at tht escenees for the next episode, Clark goes "Let Her Live" about his mom, so you can't really predict who is going to die yet.

[MayaQT]

It's so sad, but I really think Chloe is going to die... :\

[Jellie]

Originally posted by attitudejc
really? do you possibly remember which eppy?

season 3 ep 21 forsaken :)

if im wrong sobody correct me please

[attitudejc]

wow, did you pop that out of your head or what! thanx

[talespin]

chloe won`t be one that will die but i will hate to see john kent die but the directors said that there will be 2 major deaths the directors do not need to keep taking the characters off the show every year it should go lot longer than 6 or 7 years it is one of the top shows on tv that is dumb if it only goes 6 or 7 seasons it needs to go longer and the episode splinter i think was the best episode this season so far next week looks even more exciting

[Hemish]

Originally posted by talespin
chloe won`t be one that will die but i will hate to see john kent die but the directors said that there will be 2 major deaths the directors do not need to keep taking the characters off the show every year it should go lot longer than 6 or 7 years it is one of the top shows on tv that is dumb if it only goes 6 or 7 seasons it needs to go longer and the episode splinter i think was the best episode this season so far next week looks even more exciting

:confused: :confused: Wha- Did you- :confused:

As for the Chloe scene... Lana_Lang #1 may have a point too. I can see that too now that I'm looking for it.

Anyhow, don't kill Chloe!

[captaincharisma]

I did not like this scene from Chloe, it sounded so lame and forced.

[chlana_sandwich]

I think these decisions often come down to the actor's situation. Sometimes, actors just want to move on and do other things. Therefore, the selection may have nothing whatsoever to do with the characters per se... it could be anyone! :eek:

Anyway, I think SV would be screwed without Chloe, Jonathan or Lionel. I think Jonathan will die before Clark leaves Smallville, in keeping with Superman lore, but my bet is he will die in the series finale. I really don't see any good reason why Chloe or Lionel ever need to die... they are the comic relief.

I haven't heard the specific rumor about someone dying in the 100th episode, so I don't know if it is supposed to be a main character, but could it be Uncle Jake Jennings? He seems expendable to me. Or, maybe Clark and Fine go at it and Clark kills Fine (prolly not)! :)

[luuke]

Originally posted by captaincharisma
I did not like this scene from Chloe, it sounded so lame and forced.

Complete the opposite.. it just sounded honest and most of all authentic.. AM is just awesome..

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by LaineSV11
i hope i'm right attitudejc... chloe dying would make the show.... weird

hemish.. wow good ideas! i was wondering why clark was having his hands all over her hands.. so now he knows she's a big fat liar and that chloe is a true friend who doesn't lie...

the circle thing would be tiring.. haha.. but they probably already shot the episode... i believe it is jor-el/lionel who does.. because maybe it's jor-els plan.. that he dies and he thinks clark will realize that he loves him.. i think i said that before and no one has agreed with me yet.. oh well
Actually I got the same theory and I posted it after Hidden but you probably didn't see it.
I think Jor-L will be the one that dies the remain of life force that he has to comunicate with Kal-L will be the one he will use after all how can he pretend Clark will obey him if he kills someone he loves.
Also the part of someone you love for the way Lior-el was acting strike me as wishful thinking after all he had just said the he hopes someday Clark will call him father. And maybe the part of two majro deaths could mean that once Clark realize that he descend of a noble race he will finally decides to embrace his destiny and the side of Clark that only wants to be human will die. Just and idea ;)

[No-El]

Originally posted by Lana_Lang #1
(You have the super scene with Chloe. The intensity Chloe was pouring into making her point about never telling his secret and even saying she'd die first before she told anyone his secret. With the camera zooming on her face letting us see the conviction in her eyes .)

To me it seemed like relief that Chloe told him 100% the truth but as soon as she said the "I'd rather die..." line, something changed in his eyes. Now I don't know if I was the only one to see this but I saw almost immediate worry streak across his face for only a moment, but even as he hugged her it stayed in his eyes.

He realized those are almost exactly the same words Jor-el used!

Then the camera pans in on Chloe, to show her face while they are hugging, she seems surprised by this hug and concerned, she knows something's wrong, that Clark hasn't told her everything about Jor-El. Also she's hugging him quite tightly.

We've had death warnings:

First strike - "Exposed's" Angel Wings

Second Strike - "I'd never betray your secret Clark. I rather die for you than betray your secret."

If there's a third then...I'll be serious worried for Chloe!

Even though I'm worried for Chloe, I still stick with my Lionel and Jor-El theory.


Yes, it appears TPTB are dropping these hints/clues like "land mines/sonar buoys" all over and until the 100th episode to "explode" as a surprise in our faces!:mad: :(

Hate to imagine what they have in store for us in the Season 5 finale cliffhanger----a powerful Brainiac with Namek and Aethyr returning?????:( :( :( :confused:

I saw the scene too over and over again and all I really noticed was the Love there for Clark. Clark on the other hand looked like when Pa Kent would give him a big hug-----the look of a little toddler/child-like almost!:)

[LaineSV11]

last daughter of krypton sorry i didn't see that..

and the chloe scene wasn't fake or lame...

so now my theory will stay at jor-el/lionel

[No-El]

Originally posted by LaineSV11
last daughter of krypton sorry i didn't see that..

and the chloe scene wasn't fake or lame...

so now my theory will stay at jor-el/lionel


I read in another thread somewhere that John Schnieder was unhappy in the direction the show was taking. And that he was in talks about doing something regards to characterization of his role.

Then someone said that they believed that situation was resolved. Know anything about this?? :confused:

I know this may not do any thing to the Jor-El/Lionel theory seeing that Al Gough said it would be two major deaths involved----I thinking human demise.

But I could be wrong.:( :confused:

[captaincharisma]

Originally posted by luuke
Complete the opposite.. it just sounded honest and most of all authentic.. AM is just awesome..

It was an overthetop statement thrown in there to get us thinking she would be the one taking the fall re Jor-el. How about she says, "hey clark, i'd never reveal your secret, you can trust me" something of that nature. To say she would die before she reveals the secret, why? Was she in some sort of danger? Was she being threatened by Lionel? No she wasn't so to say what she said comes out of left field and was not really apt for the scene.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
She looked so serious. I think she meant it.


Yes she did look and mean it!

Just because she said it, does not mean it will happen.

Just to express her loyality in a dramatic personal way to Clark and Clark picked up on it, that's why he reached out to hug her first.

There is Love there between them but not enough to have Jor-El take action!;)

[lana&Clark4ever]

this quote forshadows somthing....she will die pretty soon:D

[BeepBeep]

Chloe, you are so screwed.

It's the equivalent of saying "I'll be right back" and then wandering off alone in a bad horror movie.

I'd much prefer Johnathan die, as I'm liking Chloe more this year than years past, but that line made the hearts of all Chloe fans stop.

[katt12]

It's always possible the line was put in there just to make us all worried.

[No-El]

Like I said, not to worry!

They won't dare they hint and play mind games---but they won't dare!!

There will be dire consequences and mass protests of irrate fans globally to the stations and their affliliates worldwide and not too mention floods of angry e-mails to network executives and Al Gough himself!

That's only the tip of the iceberg I believe!!

[chlana_sandwich]

I know this may not do any thing to the Jor-El/Lionel theory seeing that Al Gough said it would be two major deaths involved----I thinking human demise.

Holy crap... it's Clark and Lois! :p

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by BeepBeep
Chloe, you are so screwed.

It's the equivalent of saying "I'll be right back" and then wandering off alone in a bad horror movie.

I'd much prefer Johnathan die, as I'm liking Chloe more this year than years past, but that line made the hearts of all Chloe fans stop.
Or being an ensign in Star Trek and being called in an away team:
Spock, Zulu and ensign lark come with me you know Lark won't return :D
Not seriously I hope you are wrong :(

[Liriel]

It's not being an ensign. Plenty of lieutenants and crewmen died to. In the original series it was the redshirts who needed to worry, regardless of rank.

[MissSullivan]

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who cried when she said that line. I'm really hoping they stuck that in there just to get us worried.

[No-El]

Originally posted by MissSullivan
I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who cried when she said that line. I'm really hoping they stuck that in there just to get us worried.


That's just what it was MissSullivan. So don't worry remember tptb don't want implications/consequence to happen.

I don't know what their shooting schedule is like, but I hope they have NOT started to film Episode 100 YET!:(

Hope!!;)

[jmart]

I don't think she'll be the one to die this season but I do believe it was foreshadowing for the series. She has said it a couple of times (in Splinter and in Arrival) that she'd keep his secret no matter what so I believe as much as I love Chloe that she will meet her demise before the end of the series, possibly at the end of the season.

[charmedchick]

I would die if chloe died... She is my favorite of the show... I too noticed that at the end.. I just hope its not foreshadowing her Future on smallville. :(

Stacy

[spideyfan]

I also thought, red herring when she said that...I mean TPTB wouldnt make it that obvious.

[No-El]

Originally posted by spideyfan
I also thought, red herring when she said that...I mean TPTB wouldnt make it that obvious.


Really!

Remember also, Allison is under contract for the Series duration!:D :cool:

[Scorpio31]

Like I said before , "THATS JUST HOW THE EXPRESSION GOES ", theres no other why to put it.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Scorpio31
Like I said before , "THATS JUST HOW THE EXPRESSION GOES ", theres no other why to put it.


Uhmmm:confused:

I guess so, uh!!

[GhostRider]

Originally posted by No-El
Really!

Remember also, Allison is under contract for the Series duration!:D :cool:

AM is locked in which means she can't leave the show without TPTB letting her go. However they can write her off at anytime as they aren't obligated to keep her. So yes, they can kill her off at anytime. That doesn't mean that they will, but her contract doesn't give her any imumity from it.

[No-El]

Originally posted by GhostRider
AM is locked in which means she can't leave the show without TPTB letting her go. However they can write her off at anytime as they aren't obligated to keep her. So yes, they can kill her off at anytime. That doesn't mean that they will, but her contract doesn't give her any imumity from it.


If TPTB did NOT care about ratings or the implications of a backlash----and they don't care----yes I, agree with you, sadly, I agree:( :( :( :(

Especially in light of her remark to Clark about revealing secrets, that may be their way of opening the door for Allison just by leaving it open-ended for her and themselves!:(

However, one can always hope Chloe/Allison doesn't leave!:)

[KristinIsAwesome]

Idk if the producers thought about this when they were doing it, but:

In "Thirst" at the end when Chloe does the narrative, she makes the remark about the daily planet being her starting place and something like, "Not to mention future superheros." Now she wouldnt know that unless she was alive to see it.

Now idk if maybe the producers just overlooked that, but its something to think about.

[No-El]

Originally posted by KristinIsAwesome
Idk if the producers thought about this when they were doing it, but:

In "Thirst" at the end when Chloe does the narrative, she makes the remark about the daily planet being her starting place and something like, "Not to mention future superheros." Now she wouldnt know that unless she was alive to see it.

Now idk if maybe the producers just overlooked that, but its something to think about.


I guess we are all thinking each episode at a time from our perspective. But they may have had this whole thing planned out at their annual cast meeting before production and writing began.

And because we don't see the production shoots as they happen in rapid fire succession----we see one episode each week---everything is probably in post production from their perspective.

But like I said in other posts. Chloe is safe....as Allison put it after reading the first several script outlines for S5...

"I'm gonna have great YEAR, ain't I?!!"

[KristinIsAwesome]

Yea thats what I was gonna say...

She woulndt say that and then they respond, " yea your gonna have a good season, until you die in episode 12." Haha, yea I think shes gonna live.

Worry about J.Kent

[No-El]

Originally posted by KristinIsAwesome
Yea thats what I was gonna say...

She woulndt say that and then they respond, " yea your gonna have a good season, until you die in episode 12." Haha, yea I think shes gonna live.

Worry about J.Kent


I told ya, nothing to worry over!!:) :) :)

Yes, Johnathan Kent, well I've said it is a teen oriented drama and one or two of the veteran actors may have run their story arc to their conclusion.

I'm concerned about the women of Smallville---call me chivalrous!:lol: :cool:

[markbot]

i hope so

[No-El]

Yeah we hope so too!!

Believe me when I say Allison/Chloe will be fine!!

[Incus]

I hope Chloe doesn't get killed off! But I too think it was a bit of foreshadowing! I am keeping my fingers crossed that she lives!

[No-El]

Originally posted by Incus
I hope Chloe doesn't get killed off! But I too think it was a bit of foreshadowing! I am keeping my fingers crossed that she lives!


Remember this, Allison herself looked over the season 5 script outline and said:

"I'm gonna have a great YEAR ain't I?!"

She said it flashing that patented "100 Megawatt Smile" of hers no doubt----she's precious!!:D :D :D

[GhostRider]

Originally posted by No-El
Remember this, Allison herself looked over the season 5 script outline and said:

"I'm gonna have a great YEAR ain't I?!"

She said it flashing that patented "100 Megawatt Smile" of hers no doubt----she's precious!!:D :D :D

There is no such thing as the script outline. The actors are given the scripts for each episode as they're written, one at a time. AM only saw the first scripts when she made that comment and she had zero clue how things would turn out for Chloe. AM is great but you aren't using vaild arguements to support her not being the one to die. They're even sending out fake scripts so you can't even trust the spoilers at this point. I don't want to see Chloe die, but I'd love to see some real evidence that she won't be the one.

[No-El]

Originally posted by GhostRider
There is no such thing as the script outline. The actors are given the scripts for each episode as they're written, one at a time. AM only saw the first scripts when she made that comment and she had zero clue how things would turn out for Chloe. AM is great but you aren't using vaild arguements to support her not being the one to die. They're even sending out fake scripts so you can't even trust the spoilers at this point. I don't want to see Chloe die, but I'd love to see some real evidence that she won't be the one.


Indeed! (giving a Mr. Spock look)

Explain to me their shooting schedule, I'm under the impression they do four to five eps. during say 6-7 week stretch at a time, given they need a breather.

And I never trust spoilers to give anything away written in stone---do away with them!

[Superboy2]

Lana is hiding more than 1 secret. First Genevieve, then the silver k, and then working with Lex. She's tied with Clark at having secrets
1. Alien
2. Powers
3. FOS

[GhostRider]

Spoilers come from draft scripts, things can change before filming and later editing. Shooting takes about two weeks. The actors usually get the script for the next episode when they're filiming the current one and so when they give interviews that's what's on their mind. And of course they are several episodes ahead of what's being aired. They try to keep all the actors in the dark so they won't give away any plot points beyond that. I haven't seen anything that would tell me who is going to be the one to die at this point. So my pure guess would be JK.

[KristinIsAwesome]

I think they gave Chloe that line to add confusion.. I didnt think Chloe was gonna die, then I heard that line. I still think she will live, but I think they did that to put doubt in people minds; to keep them on their toes.

[GhostRider]

Jor-El said that someone close to Clark would die, someone he loves. There are only four characters that fit that bill; JK, Martha, Chloe, and Lana. I'd say Lana is out of bounds so that leaves Chloe, JK, and Martha. Pick one.

[Kryptonian King]

Someone made a comment on another thread that it would have been a waste of time to give AM so much screen time this season and develop a new chemistry with Clark if they were planning to kill Chloe in just the 12th episode of the year. I would have to agree with that statement. If they were going to write Allison off the show, they would have reduced her screen time like they did to Sam Jones.

Also, Allison's contract runs through Season 6 with an option for Season 7 (if the series lasts that long) - that is my understanding.

Also, since AM has large following among Smallville fans, it seems unlikely that they would get rid of her for fear of alienating their audience (pun not intended).

I believe the two characters to die will be Lionel and possibly either Johnathan or Pete. If it is Pete, Clark might hear about it from a telephone call from Pete's mother. The episode could focus on how Clark and Chloe deal with the death of their friend.

I am quite possitive that Lionel's days are numbered.

[No-El]

Originally posted by KristinIsAwesome
I think they gave Chloe that line to add confusion.. I didnt think Chloe was gonna die, then I heard that line. I still think she will live, but I think they did that to put doubt in people minds; to keep them on their toes.


Yes, that's what I believe they want to do as others have suggested----add confusion and throw us off the trail!:mad:

I hoping with you that Chloe survives the 100th eps!:) :)

In my thread/poll "If Chloe dies...will you stop watching??" one poster said:

"No Chloe=No me"

Straight and to the point! :mad:

I understand her feelings and I'm NOT Kryptonian or Vulcan!:mad:


Originally posted by GhostRider
Spoilers come from draft scripts, things can change before filming and later editing. Shooting takes about two weeks. The actors usually get the script for the next episode when they're filiming the current one and so when they give interviews that's what's on their mind. And of course they are several episodes ahead of what's being aired. They try to keep all the actors in the dark so they won't give away any plot points beyond that. I haven't seen anything that would tell me who is going to be the one to die at this point. So my pure guess would be JK.


Thanks for the response, thanks, that was appreciated!:cool:

[johnny fogg]

Why on EARTH would Pete Ross die? He's canon, and no longer on the friggin show.:eek:

I do hope Chloe does not die, if only because we never met her crazy mom. And the guy from stargate needs to come back as her father.

[No-El]

Originally posted by johnny fogg
Why on EARTH would Pete Ross die? He's canon, and no longer on the friggin show.:eek:

I do hope Chloe does not die, if only because we never met her crazy mom. And the guy from stargate needs to come back as her father.

I agree! But......

What guy from StarGate should come back as Chloe's father??:confused:

And yeah we're hoping Chloe stays---for the entire series run!!:D :D

[johnny fogg]

Not THAT guy from Stargate, the other guy from Stargate! The guy who played Gabe Sullivan but disappeared after the s.3 finale. He was also in X-files as the dude with the super tumor that made people do things.

[No-El]

Originally posted by johnny fogg
Not THAT guy from Stargate, the other guy from Stargate! The guy who played Gabe Sullivan but disappeared after the s.3 finale. He was also in X-files as the dude with the super tumor that made people do things.


Oh, him!

Yes, I see what you mean now!:lol: :lol: :lol:

That be great story if they do 2 arc plot!:cool: