Xbox 360 vs. PS3

[TMLS]

But they may as well call it something else then, that was my point all along...

[Mello Penelo]

If that was the case, then there never would have been a FF7 at all. It wasn't even that great. I don't see why people fanwank all over it.

[boyde92]

Final Fantasy did suck,not as much as the 360 tho,haha

u shouldnt have to worry every time when u turn it on,oh man the rings of death might be there what do i do??
well, all u have to do is take it outside and put it in a tree and shoot it with a rifle that way u could pretend u are playing a game since u cant on a 360 without it freezing,just look on youtube u will find alot more on how much the 360 sucks than the ps3.the 360 does have a little more games now but for us ps3 owners will have them soon enough.And we can play them online for FREE!i know all the 360s cant be all garbage but I would say about 70% of them are.

[TMLS]

70%? And how did you come to this figure? Representative sampling? Scientific analysis? Or just picking a number out of thin air to satisfy your clear PS3 fanboy tendencies? ;)

[Mello Penelo]

Hey boyde92, the PlayStation2 had so many problems at first no one wanted them either. Remember the blue light hard drive problem?

Anyway, the PS3 is better than the 360, but not because the 360 is constantly breaking. Microsoft got that fixed in the first two months of the release. The PS3 is better simply because it's a better console.

[Theshadow129x]

^ i love the ps3 but i think it has a way to go to be considered the best console this generation. it simply needs more groundbreaking games and more exclusives. thus far the 360 is winning based off of the game of the year awards. not just the spike tv vga awards but the xplay game of the year awards and then some. it will take it a lil more time for it to pick up speed, but when it does it will be a force to reckon with.

[Mello Penelo]

Yeah, the PS2 got a slow start last generation, but when it picked up, it blew away all the competition.

[Theshadow129x]

lol wow you finally agree with me Mello.

It will take time, i dont doubt it. i personally cant wait for MGS4 but I think thats most exciting coming out so far to the ps3 next year. i know there will be more but i think mgs is the flagship and beginning of the great line up for the ps3

[Mello Penelo]

Oh yeah. This Christmas will be the point where the PS3 takes over the market. The only problem is still the price. Once enough money starts rolling in from sales, the price will go down. I can't wait for next year's PS3 titles.

[Theshadow129x]

No i actually doubt that if the sales go up thent he price will go down any lower. you have to figure that since blu-ray is newer tech and is highly advanced newer tech, they wont price it down much more even after the sales go up. sony already takes a huge loss on each ps3 sold because it cost alot of money to make (at least 800 bucks) to price it any lower than 400 to 600 dollars is just a huge mistake at this point in time. I think we'll see a price cut in another 2 years and thats if sony is feeling generous.

[Mello Penelo]

They don't cost $800 to produce. But yes, they do lose money for every console produced. And this isn't some "gross generalization," but every gaming console construes a loss, even with a profit due to hacking, piracy and technological depreciation. Even the 360, despite it's respectable sales, loses money for Microsoft.

[Theshadow129x]

i said at least i didnt say for sure it did. but also the 360 last year mircosoft announced that they made a profit off of each 360 they made and sold. but i see what you mean i hate the people that pirate the games. such d-bags. microssoft lost well over a bill bucks because of the 3 red rings of death problem so they had to extend the warrenty.

[Mello Penelo]

Yeah. Sales can profit, but due to a lot of other reasons, there's still a loss on the physical components of the consoles produced across every platform.

[Theshadow129x]

all console manufacturers look forward to software sales for their profits to be made. this more of the case for Sony. they see the profit from the software as they see the loss in the hardware. thats why getting good games and exclusive games are so vital to the manufacturers.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
The only problem is still the price. Once enough money starts rolling in from sales, the price will go down.
I really doubt that. Nintendo's been making money since day one, and they have no intention of dropping the price of the Wii.

I know they're vastly different scenarios (since Nintendo's already making a profit, whereas even at $600 the PS3 was losing money), but I think if the PS3 makes tremendous sales in 2008, they're just going to bolster the $400/$500 price point and ride it out as long as they can.

[Theshadow129x]

^ you know they will. if its selling even marginally better than it was at 600 then they will ride out 400 and 500 longer than anything. they too much of a loss on each console sold they arent going to price it down even more so soon. they'll ride that horse until they decide to tell everyone they are turning a profit and not a loss.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
They don't cost $800 to produce. Actually they do. Both MSNBC and Yahoo news broke that problem about a month before the PS3 came out. Initial production cost was $805.85 for the 20 GB model and $840.35 for the 60 GB model. At the time, after all costs accounted were for the loss was $250.00 per console sold. Since they got rid of the EE chip the production cost has lowered by $50 to $100 depending on the HD. Essentially they are still losing $200 per console sold.

Sony hoped the PS3 would sell in volume to make up the profit loss. Unfortunately they haven't been selling the numbers they wanted. As of November it was around 6 Million, which is half of what they were hoping for, not to mention in order to compete with the 360 and Wii. Just using simple math the profit loss thus far is between $1,200,000,000 and $1,500,000,000... Damn.

Don't be surprised if the PS3 production team was either fired or are dead in the desert somewhere Casino-style :lol:

[Theshadow129x]

figures. this is why software sales are more important than hardware sales. sony is hoping for better games to add to their library so they can cut back on how much they've lost off of the ps3.

[UDStyle]

Oh fa sho. They dug themselves into a hole that's killing them in sales and recoup value. That's why the hype and costumer satisfaction isn't the same as it was when the PS2 dropped. I remember all of that well, it was the next step that all Sony consumers were hoping for. The PS3 definitely has potential, way more then the Wii at least, but there are too many hangs up on that system to put any energy into it.

The 360 performs well and solid. Better game selection, better cost value. Best example would be that two of my friends are brothers and live together. one bought and Xbox360 and the other a PS3 so they wouldn't have to get individual consoles and could use each others. Both spend most of their gaming hours on the 360 for the same reasons that I gave and are listed throughout this topic. It's a story that's being repeated throughout the world.

[boyde92]

ps3 is better

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by boyde92
ps3 is better Unfortunately that can only go as far as a consumer opinion. Then again if we were going on fan opinion and sales the Xbox360 would be ahead by more then double lol.

IMO the 360 is the superior machine and more then just the obvious in graphic capability and fluidity. The overall game selection and gameplay is just dominated right now by the 360. PS3 needs to step it up. It was cool to be in this situation when it first came out, it was understandable. But it's been out a year now and they really need to get up on the market.

[Theshadow129x]

^ its all about game selection imo. software makes the console the hardware doesnt make it better than anything. sure there are 360's failing but at least they are fixing the problem but when it comes down to it u can walk into a game store and look a large wall of 360 titles that are available now. i know its been out longer but thats besides the point. ps3, which i have, doesnt have aot of hits like the 360. i just beat draskes fortune and as good as it was im not popping it back in anytime soon. im, having more fun with call of duty 4 on xbl and halo 3 and mass effect. the 360 is awesome with its software. if ps3 is to come back it just needs to come back during 2008 with better games than it did this year.

[boyde92]

Originally posted by UDStyle
Unfortunately that can only go as far as a consumer opinion. Then again if we were going on fan opinion and sales the Xbox360 would be ahead by more then double lol.

IMO the 360 is the superior machine and more then just the obvious in graphic capability and fluidity. The overall game selection and gameplay is just dominated right now by the 360. PS3 needs to step it up. It was cool to be in this situation when it first came out, it was understandable. But it's been out a year now and they really need to get up on the market.

They need to step it up?
Do u know how many people have just thrown away them things cuz microsoft wont fix them.so theres nothing else 2 do about it.

dont believe me? LOOK ON YOUTUBE!!!!

[Mello Penelo]

Hey boyde92, you're right, the PS3 is the better system, but at least I've offered legitimate proof as to why the PS3 is better than the 360. And the red circle problem for the 360 was fixed over a year ago. Your argument is outdated.

[TMLS]

At the end of the day it's subjective - the 360 and the PS3 are similar enough that it comes down to the individual.

We all know the Wii is King :D

[Theshadow129x]

lmao

[Mello Penelo]

:lol: I like the demo of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but it isn't enough to make me want a Wii. Thank God you can use a GameCube controller to play it. Mario Galaxy was fun too, but that stick is too gimmicky.

[Theshadow129x]

yeah when i first picked up galaxy i was like wtf is this? lol then i got use to it. i like the wii i just dont think theres enough there to keep it afloat until the end of this cycle

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I've offered legitimate proof as to why the PS3 is better than the 360 *On the floor* :rotfl: Thanks for that. That actually brightened up my day.


Originally posted by boyde92
They need to step it up?
Do u know how many people have just thrown away them things cuz microsoft wont fix them.so theres nothing else 2 do about it.

dont believe me? LOOK ON YOUTUBE!!!! Step it up severely. The lack of game selection and inferior graphic play are why people are selling it back left and right on Ebay and to places like gamestop.

And I don't know about the random heads on youtube but when my homie had a first run 360 that red lighted he sent it in and got it back within 2 weeks, all problems fixed. I got warranties from both Microsoft and EB so i know I'm good in case ish happens.

The overwhelmingly positive feedback on places like g4, gamespot, gamefaq, and IGN, not to mention just the feedback on online purchasing outlets give more then enough ammunition to stand. Sales figures don't lie either. Because of the lack of quality gaming most PS3's are collecting dust. But it's cool. once a great game is finally released on the ps3 and the price comes down i may cop one. But yes they really need to step it up.

LOL @ Wii

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by UDStyle
*On the floor* :rotfl: Thanks for that. That actually brightened up my day.

Yeah, I know. You just see me as a Sony fangirl who has no right to express an opinion other than yours.

[boyde92]

yeah wis are not my favorite either.LOL

well my old 360 was a peice of @#$% red lights within an hour,they wouldnt fix it.
but my new one has only foze a couple times which is more than my ps3 but good for xbox,and no tey don have alot of games for he ps3 but who is going to go out and gt ALLof them i mean cmon they have alot of good ones now like COD4,F.E.A.R resistance ridge racer 7 olivion, they have alotand the online feature s better not to mention FREE.and the wis aregood in some ways it does bring a whole new way to play games.but when i look at the wii sittng beside the ps3 i think what is going to happen if the ps3 falls,? NO MORE WII thats for sure

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by UDStyle
And I don't know about the random heads on youtube but when my homie had a first run 360 that red lighted he sent it in and got it back within 2 weeks, all problems fixed. I got warranties from both Microsoft and EB so i know I'm good in case ish happens.

Which is why I said his argument was outdated. My brother's 360 died a few days after he got it. He sent it in and got a brand new one two weeks later. But that doesn't make the 360 the superior console.

[boyde92]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Hey boyde92, you're right, the PS3 is the better system, but at least I've offered legitimate proof as to why the PS3 is better than the 360. And the red circle problem for the 360 was fixed over a year ago. Your argument is outdated.
not outdated for my friends they still got problems with it,
but on youtube there is this guy on there he said if the riigs of death come back to leav it on and wrap it in a blanket for like 2 ours and they sould go awaybut never tried it

[Mello Penelo]

Dude, if they've still got problems, then that's their fault for never turning them in for repairs. The ring problem was fixed a year ago.

[TMLS]

Don't you have "not fit for purpose" statutory rights over there? If it's not working, return it. If they can fix it they will, if they can't then get your money back and get something else. A life, maybe.

[Mello Penelo]

We have warranties on most expensive things, but you have to be forthright enough to fill out all the warranty information and mail it to the manufacturer in order to receive services for damaged or flawed products. In the US, the policy is pretty much caveat emptor.

[TMLS]

Blimey, that's terrible.

[Mello Penelo]

A lot of places have personal return policies (Wal-Mart being among the most lax), but there's no government statute requiring it. However, if you purposely sell something broken and cover it up, you're screwed.

[boyde92]

OMG thats what I'm trying to say!!!!!!!!!!!!
they wouldnt fix them they send it back=NOT FIXED.DIDNT GET MONEY BACK!!!!!! DO U GUYS UNDERSTAND?????? I know all of them cant be junk but the ones my friends have are.thats what i have been trying to tell u guys.if they would have fixed it i wouldnt be posting in here about it!!!!!!

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by boyde92
OMG thats what I'm trying to say!!!!!!!!!!!!
they wouldnt fix them they send it back=NOT FIXED.DIDNT GET MONEY BACK!!!!!! DO U GUYS UNDERSTAND?????? I know all of them cant be junk but the ones my friends have are.thats what i have been trying to tell u guys.if they would have fixed it i wouldnt be posting in here about it!!!!!!

Then. Your. Friend. Did. Not. Try. Hard. Enough.

That's all it boils down to. I hate Microsoft and I'll never buy a 360, but they have replaced every 360 with problems.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Yeah, I know. You just see me as a Sony fangirl who has no right to express an opinion other than yours. *pats mello on head* Nope, I don't take you seriously enough to care either way. You just tickle me lol

Boyde I don't know who you called when your 360 died but you straight got took my friend. You are the only case of that I have seen on a first person level. I think you just got jibbed. COD4 was the only exceptional game you mentioned for PS3 dude and not only have they got that on Xbox360 as well but the frame rate is a little higher on the 360. I have played it on both systems. I'm surprised you even mentioned Resistance dude. It is one of the worst looking games for the next gen console I have ever seen. Everything is horribly pixelated and the physics are way too light for a realistic feel. A lot of ppl who had both systems put down resistance the minute Gears Of War dropped.

I will give you one on the online network being free. That is one of the only things in the PS3's favor. But there are so many set backs as of right now it's just not cracking. I mean seriously one of my friends calls his PS3 the "Bluray Player". How insane is that? lol

[boyde92]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Then. Your. Friend. Did. Not. Try. Hard. Enough.

That's all it boils down to. I hate Microsoft and I'll never buy a 360, but they have replaced every 360 with problems.
NOT OURS!!


Originally posted by UDStyle
*pats mello on head* Nope, I don't take you seriously enough to care either way. You just tickle me lol

Boyde I don't know who you called when your 360 died but you straight got took my friend. You are the only case of that I have seen on a first person level. I think you just got jibbed. COD4 was the only exceptional game you mentioned for PS3 dude and not only have they got that on Xbox360 as well but the frame rate is a little higher on the 360. I have played it on both systems. I'm surprised you even mentioned Resistance dude. It is one of the worst looking games for the next gen console I have ever seen. Everything is horribly pixelated and the physics are way too light for a realistic feel. A lot of ppl who had both systems put down resistance the minute Gears Of War dropped.

I will give you one on the online network being free. That is one of the only things in the PS3's favor. But there are so many set backs as of right now it's just not cracking. I mean seriously one of my friends calls his PS3 the "Bluray Player". How insane is that? lol have u even played resistance on the ps3? its really good.and yes the built in blu ray plyer is very nice.dont u have to buy the HD DVD drive on the xbox seperate?

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by boyde92

have u even played resistance on the ps3? its really good.and yes the built in blu ray plyer is very nice.dont u have to buy the HD DVD drive on the xbox seperate? Of course I have. The Storyline mode and online gameplay. That's how I know about the sub-standard graphics and flawed physics settings. If nothing else COD4 is what Resistance should have been visually. And We've been over the HD-dvd and Bluray issue. If your remember I put both the cost and the manufacturings in a timeline to show perspective on each console.

In most cases it comes down to individual perception as to which is better for them. If we are talking about universal satisfaction, sales and feedback satisfaction then right now the 360 is the hotter system. On a universal gamer level there is just one too many circumstances that are holding the PS3 back from being the great machine it can be. When I compare the times and situations surrounding the release of the PS2 compared to the release of the PS3, the difference is staggering. The PS2 was slightly ahead of it's time while the PS3 was released before it's time was ready. It was a rush to compete with Microsoft. The one thing that could make up a lot of that is if Sony could just have that one great game developed for the PS3. Despite the lacking in graphic quality, despite the price craze, and despite the catalog problems, just one or two great games for the PS3 would make up for a lot. The 360 did it three times in the span of one year (Gears of War, Halo 3, and Mass Effect). In that light the PS3 game developers need to step it up.

If you are enjoying the console and having a great time, that's beautiful playa. I am sincerely happy to hear that. However that still only accounts for you. Although it's great you find your money's worth in the system I am thinking past individual POV (even my own) and looking at what hot for the general gaming populace. Think of it as more along the lines of Market Analysis or a form of A&R work.

[TMLS]

Was looking at getting a PS3 yesterday (well the missus wasn't but that's an argument for elsewhere ;)) and had it pointed out to me by my banned-from-Ksite PS3 and 360-owning brother Alex that the PS3 wouldn't have the games to interest me.

So I had a look at the games on offer, and have to say he was right. I've said before on this thread that liking one or the other is purely subjective and it's totally correct. For me, bar 3 or 4 games that I'd get when I bought it, there just isn't enough to keep my interest going in the PS3 - but the 360 has shedloads of games that I'd be interested.

Were I a Sony fanboy, I'd be severely depressed now - but since I can see the merits of both systems the 360 edges it for me.

I still prefer the Wii though, and that has no games! :D

[Theshadow129x]

^ yeah same thing happened to my friend. He was ready to get a ps3 and then I told him the lineup of good games for the both consoles and he got a 360. he's happy with it right now. he's usually one of those people that loves having the more powerful machine so he was ready to get the ps3 for that reason alone but when i told him which one had better and more games he changed his mind. he's happy with his purchase. i like the wii but i wish it had more games for hardcore gamers on there rather than games for casual games. it seems like thats nintendo's target audience now. 1.2 million units of mario has been sold since its release and that makes me wonder wtf is everyone playing if its not mario. its weird

[boyde92]

the 360 isnt bad it has only froze a couple times but it still earns a spot sitting across the room with the wii,while the ps3 dominates the whole room by itself!

[pacofajita]

As someone who owns all three next-gen consoles, here's what I have to say.

I personally believe the PS3 is the best.

Most accessible does not equate to best. Just because the 360 has the most games out right now does not make it the best console. Hardware-wise, the PS3 is better. The dashboard system with the 360 still gets on my nerves and I've had mine for a year now.

As for the Wii, it's ok. The last two Nintendo systems are like karaoke machines. They're fun to play with others, but not a good solo machine. That's why I own Twilight Princess on the GameCube. Honestly, I've had more fun masturbating than playing my Wii.

That said, just because the PS3 doesn't have as many games out right now as the 360 doesn't make it a crappy system. Hardware alone makes it worth the investment. It's an amazing premise, but needs more time.

Besides, last generation, the PS2 got off to a slow start due to the optical disc malfunctions during the initial launch. I got mine pretty quickly after it came out and the KB Toys where I bought it wouldn't sell it to me unless I bought a memory card, a second controller and three games. Cost me well over $500, but it was worth it.

Slowly but surely the PS3 will pick up in sales once big-name titles begin to come out like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.

Anyway, I don't agree with that Mello chick about the 360 being crap, but it's pretty good. I enjoy whipping ass in Halo on the Live network. And Call of Duty 4 is a hell of a lot better on the 360 than on Wii.

Finally, if I had to score all the systems on a scale of 1-10, I'd break it down like this:

360 - 7
Wii - 5
PS3 - 8

They all have their pluses and minuses, but I just like the PS3 more. Chalk it up to personal opinion.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by pacofajita
Besides, last generation, the PS2 got off to a slow start due to the optical disc malfunctions during the initial launch. I got mine pretty quickly after it came out and the KB Toys where I bought it wouldn't sell it to me unless I bought a memory card, a second controller and three games. Cost me well over $500, but it was worth it.

Slowly but surely the PS3 will pick up in sales once big-name titles begin to come out like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.
You know, I keep seeing comparisons for PS3 to the PS2, and its "slow start" because of disc malfunctions (which I remember). The thing is, the PS2 came out a good year before GameCube and Xbox. So unless you count the Dreamcast, the PS2 really had no competition as the first console of the new gen.

But Xbox was better! The Xbox had shorter load times and better graphics and had the same multimedia capabilities as the PS2! The controller sucked, but it was a better console, I always thought, except for the fact that it didn't have as good a library as PS2. It had good games, but not as many as PS2, which had a huge library, which contines to grow a year after the PS3's release.

If you ask me, there are way more similarities between the Xbox 360 and the PS2. 360 has a year head-start: check. Console malfunctions? Let me think - check. A slow start thanks to said malfunctions and complaints of ports of last-gen games - check. Not as powerful as its main competitor? Check.

But the 360 has such a great library now that I really think it's in a fantastic position right now. I'm not saying that the PS3 isn't going to pick up. It might get to a point where it's more popular than the original Xbox was - maybe diehard Sony fans firmly believe it will. I don't know. I think console wars are silly in the first place. We know the PS3 has a ton of potential, but the way things have been playing out so far, the 360 is just doing better right now.

I don't see what's wrong with that. If PS3 owners love their machine that much, then I guess they don't care if they don't have Gears of War, Mass Effect, or Halo 3. And several games are coming out on both systems, so PS3 fans won't be deprived of Resident Evil 5, Grand Theft Auto IV, or Rainbow Six Vegas 2. I'm personally glad they get to enjoy those games. But for my money's worth, the 360 is a VERY good system to have.

I enjoy whipping ass in Halo on the Live network. And Call of Duty 4 is a hell of a lot better on the 360 than on Wii.
COD4 isn't on Wii. I used to wish it would be. Then I got a 360.

[pacofajita]

Sh!t. I thought one thing and wrote another. I really need to edit what I write. Makes me sound like a jackass when I don't. Anyway, yeah, COD4 not on Wii. PC version is ass. It's in my 360 a lot more than Halo, though.

Anyway, like you said superbat, the 360 does have a great library and is in a great position, but like I said before, that doesn't make it the best. Hardware wise, the PS3 rapes it.

So here's my thing-- the market is all about instant gratification. Fast release equals profit. So are a lot of gamers. It needs to come out now, so we can play it. That's the mentality, and it's cool. I love when a great game comes out.

But, to me, I'd rather have an investment than the first thing available. I'm in the small demographic of gamers where I want replay value and 2-300+ games released for a console. We haven't really experienced a console life like that since the original NES. Well, maybe the SNES to a slightly lesser extent.

The console wars are a crock, because what makes a good console is longevity. I've heard murmurings in certain circles that Microsoft is already developing their next generation console. Why do that? A lot of people have to bust their asses to afford a console, but then there's another one announced? What the hell?

Anyway, another reason the 360 is more accessible than the PS3 is the price. Because the PS3 is such an incredible piece of technology, it's expensive. Sony pulled a fool move taking the top-of-the-line technology when it was too expensive to produce efficiently. What it does is amazing, but not accessible to most people on a budget. I saved for a year to get mine.

Finally, I loved my PS2 more than my Xbox. The Xbox had a lot of great games on it, but it wasn't as gaming accessible as the PS2 was. The PS2 was made for replay value gaming and had no "real" new hardware in it. The Xbox was about graphics. Sure, the load times were longer and still used a memory card system, but it was a better system, and ratings proved it. Forget that it came out light years ahead of the Xbox. Take sales numbers from when the Xbox came out and the PS2 still outsold it.

Sony's problem then, like Microsoft has now, was the instant gratification mindset. They were producing games with 32-bits when the console could handle much more than that. That's one of the reasons FFX was in production for almost five years.

And I guess I was the only one who loved the massive controller with the Xbox. :lol:

My PS3 and 360 get the most play out of them. The Wii isn't even hooked up.

[Theshadow129x]

i have to say this to the poster above me. you cant say a console is better just off of the hardware alone because its the software that makes the console worth buying. We've seen many times in the past video game consoles that were more powerful fail because of their lack of a library full of great games. example: xbox and the ps2. i loved my original xbox because it had good games like kotor jade empire, crimson skies, halo 1 and 2, and ninja gaiden. but those were really the only good games on the system that were exclusive. when you looked at the hardware of the xbox it blew the ps2 out of the water but ps2 had the install base because it was out first and because of that it had more support from third party developers so the library of games was great and better.

heck i'll take you back to an even long time ago but not in a galaxy far far away.

the neo geo console which was released in 1990 i think was more powerful than the genesis and the snes and it didnt sell well because of it high price tag.


software makes the console hardware isnt enough to warrant someone to buy the machine. i mean dont get me wrong i love my ps3 but my 360 gets more playtime because it has a great library of games and i dont have to wait for a long time for good games to come out.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by pacofajita
Sh!t. I thought one thing and wrote another. I really need to edit what I write. Makes me sound like a jackass when I don't.
Well, I knew you didn't mean the Wii. I kind of thought I sounded like a jackass for pointing out something so obvious.

I wholly agree and would never argue that the PS3 is more powerful. I just don't care. The 360 has all the games I want.

I bought a Wii because I'd be able to play games like Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, and Super Mario Galaxy, knowing full well it was the weakest of the three. When friends come over, that's usually the console we all play on.

And really, I feel that the difference in horsepower between the 360 and the PS3 is borderline negligible. The potential for the PS3 is there, what with its processor and all, but I don't think it makes too much of a difference. The 360 and PS3 has games that could never be on the Wii but I've yet to see an entire PS3 game that could never be in some way ported over to 360 with minimal compromises. Sure maybe you wouldn't have as many particle effects or the textures wouldn't be as high-res, but not integral game mechanics.

[TMLS]

Decided now, I'm getting... neither!

Was looking at the price of games, and movies and they're just too expensive a proposition. We're charged up to around $100 for a game and I think $65 for a movie, what are prices like on both systems over there?

[pacofajita]

Originally posted by j03superbat
I wholly agree and would never argue that the PS3 is more powerful. I just don't care. The 360 has all the games I want.

I bought a Wii because I'd be able to play games like Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, and Super Mario Galaxy, knowing full well it was the weakest of the three. When friends come over, that's usually the console we all play on.

Yeah, my Wii is probably going to get more play than it has been when Super Smash Bros. Brawl comes out. I played Metroid Prime 3 long enough to beat it, then I re-arranged the den and never hooked it back up. Pretty good system, but too gimmicky.

And yeah, the 360 rocks, but like I said, most accessible does not equate to best.

[TMLS]

Changed my mind again, getting a PS3 this week! :)

[Jaded Wolf]

I'm going to have to go with XBox 360 as the better console. I don't care if the PS3 has greater hardware or BlueRay. What comes down for the better console to me is the price and quality of the games. For me, the 360 has both. It has an affordable price and the games have been good. All the games I could play on PS3 I can play on 360 so I'll go with the one that is cheaper. I know I won't be able to play MGS 4 when it comes out but I'll make that sacrifice in order to play Fable 2 when it is released. Besides, I'm sure Kojima will release MGS4 on the 360 in due time.

[Showmaster]

The 360 has all the greatest games, it has better looks and a much better controller.

And, even tough most PS3-fanboys claim that the PS3 has SOO great HW and stuff like that, the Cell-CPU in the PS3 is about as good as a pre-milennium Pentium 2. Why do you think the PS3 needs 7 of them?

The only reason I might get a PS3 in addition to my 360 is because of the Blu-Ray playback.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Just wondering, but who has a PS3? I'm trying to get one ASAP.

[TMLS]

Yep, I've had one for two months now. Love it.

TMLS313 if anyone wants to add...

[Theshadow129x]

I have one but i dont play it as much as the 360 to be honest

[Danny Sinfield]

I voted for PS3!

I hated the first Xbox, that's why I brought a PS3!
I don't think I'll buy a Xbox ever again.