Why Pa Kent hates Lex so much?

[Mr.Bond]

In this episode Expose Pa Kent seem to resent Lex more than ever.

Can some one help me with this dilemma, Why is Pa Kent (Jonathan Kent) Hates Lex so much? I know he hates the Luthor name cause of Lionel and what he did to the Ross family and friends.

Why hate Lex for his dad's doing?

When in the last 4 years Lex has done nothing but give money to the Kents and offer them favors, even got their house rebuilt. Lex saved their farm! Yet pa Kent still thinks Lex is an Ass? why?

[djpnutz]

Lex has been digging into the Kent's personal life. First with the whole accident, then with the rest of the weird things that happened around the farm. Pa Kent wants to protect his family and He DOES give Lex a chance at a new start but it just keeps breaking... I think Pa Kent is what turned Lex evil! hehe Just kidding... but Especially after learning that Lex HIRED those 3 freaks to try and expose CK's secret... why wouldn't you hate him. Lex put Pa's son, (from this time)future daughter in law, and wife along with Pa himself in danger. That's a big NO NO.

JK says that money isn't everything... and the things you mentioned are all money related... even though it does show good will on Lex's part, it's still just another way to have control of the Kent's life in Pa's mind.

[pcruz5]

i couldnt have said it better myself

[Mr.Bond]

well it's not just Money, if I remember correctly there is one episode where Lex stayed with the Kents and even did some Farm works.

Plus there was no mentioned by Clark to his Parent that Lex setup the 3 freak that almost got them Killed.

[mallory]

Originally posted by djpnutz
Lex has been digging into the Kent's personal life. First with the whole accident, then with the rest of the weird things that happened around the farm. Pa Kent wants to protect his family and He DOES give Lex a chance at a new start but it just keeps breaking... I think Pa Kent is what turned Lex evil! hehe Just kidding... but Especially after learning that Lex HIRED those 3 freaks to try and expose CK's secret... why wouldn't you hate him. Lex put Pa's son, (from this time)future daughter in law, and wife along with Pa himself in danger. That's a big NO NO.

JK says that money isn't everything... and the things you mentioned are all money related... even though it does show good will on Lex's part, it's still just another way to have control of the Kent's life in Pa's mind.

One astonishing, bewildering paradox after another has arisen around Clark. If Lex did not want to learn the truth, he'd have to be brain dead.

I felt Lex had no interest in controlling the Kents the first 3 years. He genuinely wanted to help them. And he did. As Lex has yielded more to his dark side, his interests are more self-driven.

Clark could have changed all that, if he had taken Lex into his confidence. I think Lex would never have become evil in that case. So I agree with others who have said that Clark created his own worst enemy, and has much of the responsibility for Lex turning to the dark side -- at least in Smallville.

[chlana_sandwich]

I'm really tired of Jonathan's prejudices of Lex. I understand that we're supposed to like the Kents and dislike the Luthors, but frankly, I like Lex more and more. Time and time again, he has helped people rather than hurt them. Even now, in Exposed, Lex gave the head's-up to Jack Jennings when he could revealed the telephone records to the press, he gave Clark the pass to get into the club in Metropolis, and he got Clark and Chloe out of trouble with the police. If TPTB want us to hate Lex, they're doing a poor job of it! ;)

[Superman790]

I don't think Pa Kent hates Lex, I think he hates the direction he is going. When Lex first walked in, Bo ripped him a new one because he thought Lex photoshopped the picture and all that. Then when Lex gave him the telephone bill and said it wasn't being published, it seemed to me like JK wanted to take back what he said.

Also, I don't think money has anything to do with it. I think the money Lex has given JK over the years would make him hate Lex more, as funny as that may sound. It hurts Pa Kent's pride that he needs help supporting his own family and on top of that not being allowed, or able for that matter, to pay back the money.

Finally, I think Bo blames what happened to the Ross' on himself. He made a deal with the devil and he is the reason the Luthor's are in SV. If not for him they would have stayed in Metropolis (in Pa Kent's mind that is, since we all know Lionel would have found another way to get into SV).

on another note
if I remember correctly Lex didn't send those three FotWs to the Kent farm to get Clark's secret. I think he heard what was going on and knew what the three wanted, so he kept an eye on what they were looking for.
Remember, they said that they were given that serum to enhance there powers temporarily and once it was taken away they needed some more. That coupled with the rumors of Clark at Bell Reeve forced them to break out (not Lex's fault, I think they would have bumped into anyone, just happened to be Lex, wrong place wrong time.

[luthorcorp]

agree it was un-called for

Johnathan gets on my nerves sometimes when talking about/with lex cause he just acts like a kid
lex seemed nothing but help in this eppy he has taken alot of crap from the kents over the years

[Drew]

Lex is nothing but helpful in about 90% of the episodes, yet people still are constatnly accusing him of things without cause. I do think Johnathon has always been extremely unfair to Lex.

Sure, Lex tried find out what Clark was hiding, but can you blame him? With so many strange occurances always happening, and knowing your close friend lies to you would make anyone want to find out the the truth. I mean Chloe even had her mini investigation going on, and even asked Clark what his secret was when she had the ability for everyone to tell her the truth.

[Jephael]

It is kind of interesting to think that Pa Kent's distrust may've been the catalyst that drove Lex towards evil. Jonathon is basically the father he wish he had grown up with, and to be shot down time and time again by the guy must have been hard on his psyche.

[Naomi]

Originally posted by Mr.Bond
I know he hates the Luthor name cause of Lionel and what he did to the Ross family and friends.

Why hate Lex for his dad's doing?

Lex was a sick nine year-old when Lionel made that deal. I love how Pete and Jonathon bonded in hating the Luther's, when Jonathon had more to do with that deal than Lex :rolleyes:

Jonathon was two-faced to let Lex think he was part of the family in Phoenix, agree to give him away in Exodus, and then say he's never liked Lex much.

I don't blame Jonathon so much now for distrusting Lex. But he was horrible to him for years (esp in season 1) when it really wasn't called for. As soon as Jonathon said Lex only thinks of himself, Lex should have demanded the papers for the farm back. That's what I would have done.

[Watching Smallville]

Since the beginning of Season 5, Lex has hired three men to expose Clark, and tried to sell a sonar weapon to the goverment that kills marine life. Even though we don't see Clark telling his parents about these things, we can assume he did. Hiring those guys was a really bad thing to do. I'd be angry, too. I'm having a harder time understanding the way Clark is treating Lex than the way Jonathan is treating him.

[phatum]

i think he was mad at lex cause he thought lex was atacking his friend jennings

[Watching Smallville]

That, too...

But even though he turned out to be wrong about that, the other things would still be there.

[Summers]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I'm having a harder time understanding the way Clark is treating Lex than the way Jonathan is treating him.

So am I. Lex basically bailed and helped Clark out this episode, and Clark is still giving snide remarks. Clark has been bold-face lying to Lex as much as Lex is lying to Clark. I don't get how Clark sees he has has the upper superioty(sp?) of it all.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Since the beginning of Season 5, Lex has hired three men to expose Clark, and tried to sell a sonar weapon to the goverment that kills marine life. Even though we don't see Clark telling his parents about these things, we can assume he did. Hiring those guys was a really bad thing to do. I'd be angry, too. I'm having a harder time understanding the way Clark is treating Lex than the way Jonathan is treating him.

Only, Jonathan has been treating Lex this way from the beginning. I can see JK being mad about current stuff. But he was hating on Lex long before Lex did anything to be hated on for. In fact, Jonathan has been more hostile towards Lex than he's been towards Lionel, which I truly never got since it was Lionel who blackmailed him long ago.

[Watching Smallville]

I only remember one scene between Jonathan and Lionel that wasn't a flashback, and in that scene, Jonathan was trying to strangle Lionel. :\

I could be forgetting an episode...

I agree that Jonathan's been hard on Lex from the beginning, but over the years, Lex has done some things to justify it. And I love Lex, but Lex has done some bad stuff.

[Summers]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I only remeber one scene between Jonathan and Lionel that wasn't a flashback, and in that scene, Jonathan was trying to strangle Lionel. :\

I could be forgetting an episode...


yea, it was "Legacy" in S3.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I only remeber one scene between Jonathan and Lionel that wasn't a flashback, and in that scene, Jonathan was trying to strangle Lionel. :\

I could be forgetting an episode...

I agree that Jonathan's been hard on Lex from the beginning, but over the years, Lex has done some things to justify it. And I love Lex, but Lex has done some bad stuff.

Oh, Jonathan and Lionel aren't pals. But his hostility towards Lex has been off the charts compared to his dealings with Lionel. Except for the strangling thing. :D For example, in "Shattered", he was more than happy to believe it when Lionel (Lionel, the man you know is a liar who will do anything to anyone, including you and his own son, to get his way) said Lex was crazy and should be carted off to the nut house. So, while Jonathan might not like Lionel, his dislike of Lex always seemed much stronger, even before Lex had done anything to warrant it. It's just weird.

[Watching Smallville]

But that's what I'm saying -- there haven't been any dealings w/ Lionel, so we don't know how Jonathan would treat him -- except to strangle him. :D And in shattered, Lex is singing to a blanket in the barn. Not a good sign...

I agree, Jonathan's been hard on Lex, but he's trying to protect Clark. Lex scares him. :eek:

[Naomi]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Since the beginning of Season 5, Lex has hired three men to expose Clark, and tried to sell a sonar weapon to the goverment that kills marine life.


Jonathon never gave Lex a chance. He was against him from the moment he met him, just because of his name. But had no problem taking his money in more than one episode.

And he has a right to distrust Lex at this point sure. But refusing to answer the door to Lex, "Oh I heard you" When it was Lex who paid for the farm in the first place :rolleyes:


Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Oh, Jonathan and Lionel aren't pals. But his hostility towards Lex has been off the charts compared to his dealings with Lionel.

Because he knows Lex will take it, he wanted so desperately for Jonathon to like him.

[LexLuv180]

He hated him from day one when he learned his name ended with Luthor. He had preconcieved notions he chose to go by, refusing to give chances and change. I guess we're all like that with something, but Ive always thought the relationship here was rather unfair and helped drive Lex toward the darker side faster

[Jephael]

Well it really doesn't matter all that much now that Pa Kent's pushing up daisies, so I say it's time to move on.

[OutlawAngel]

I wonder did Joanthan's hatred of Lex and the Luthor's as a whole come from the hatred that Jonathan might of felt for himself. Its crazy but since it is Joanthan's fault pretty much that the Luthor's got he foothold in the comunity did Jonathan treat Lex the way he felt toward himself somewhere inside of him.

I do believe that in Smallville's continutity Jonathan Kent will be one of the main reason's for Lex turning into the evil twisted man he is destined to become. Like a old saying that I hear a lot. 'If you tell a person they are or will be something then overtime that person will become exactly what you tell them they are'

[Jephael]

My friggin head's about to explode, dude!

[OutlawAngel]

Really?

Wow!

Can the doctor's give you anything for that? :lol:

[LexLuv180]

Originally posted by Jephael
Well it really doesn't matter all that much now that Pa Kent's pushing up daisies, so I say it's time to move on.

You mean because he's dead we shouldn't mention, theorize, and think about Jonathan at all???


Originally posted by OutlawAngel


I do believe that in Smallville's continutity Jonathan Kent will be one of the main reason's for Lex turning into the evil twisted man he is destined to become. Like a old saying that I hear a lot. 'If you tell a person they are or will be something then overtime that person will become exactly what you tell them they are'

I agree. Clark said pretty much the same thing in season one to his dad. Lex was trying out the nice route but despite his efforts kept being viewed as being bad from Jonathan and a few others. It's like doing the time without having the fun of committing the crime :rotfl:

[Jephael]

Well all I meant was is that Jon's character really wasn't all that complicated as the writers lead on. He was a man of pure emotion and since his death that emotional aspect of the series lied purely on Clark Kent. So if anything we really should turn our attention over to him instead.