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No-El
11-04-2005, 09:05 AM
The opening scene where Chloe is taking calls at 1 a.m. in the morning at the Daily Planet with Lois next to her playing a video game---look closely to the dialoge:

Lois: ...I'm racking up brownie points...I need your help moving out of the Kent Farm.

Chloe: (are you people ready?) ...."Oh?! You took the apartment at the Talon, how are you ever going to live without Clark (CHLARK)??"

Lois: One word! Blissfully! (saying this as Chloe is smiling while playing the video game)
How you ever had a crush on Ritchie Cunningham I'll never understand!!

Well we know what Chloe said at the end of 'Hidden'

Clark: "We never talked about Lana"
Chloe: "That's because we don't need to, I'm a big girl now!"

Well there is concensus across the board, that "Chlark" should not happen. Some may want it, some don't and others don't think it's logical at this point in the Saga.

shy175223
11-04-2005, 09:27 AM
I'm sure when she made that statement, she was actually laughing at the humor of it all, and not the fact that she was secertly happy that Lois is moving out. Chloe actually enjoys the banter herself between Clark and Lois.

zagen
11-04-2005, 09:29 AM
i dont see how this is chlark..

No-El
11-04-2005, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by shy175223
I'm sure when she made that statement, she was actually laughing at the humor of it all, and not the fact that she was secertly happy that Lois is moving out. Chloe actually enjoys the banter herself between Clark and Lois.


Yes I agree.
On the surface, that statement was just what it was.

But the "underlying meaning" as it may be directed to those of us who would love the Chlark prospect instead of Lana/Clark thing was what I thought of as it "really means to us romantics".

I know it's not a "Soap Opera"----just the mention of that phrase sends some people on the board, reeling!!
No Soaps! Not in Smallville anyway!:lol: :lol: :D

lastdaughterofkrypton
11-04-2005, 10:01 AM
I tend to agree Chloe has moved on for good now. I think she deserves a man that acknowledge how wonderful she is. I wish that somehow this reverse the crush and Clark is the one who will be crushing after her but there is not time since they can't end the show with them as a couple since he will have to fall for Lois along the road...unless Chlois of course ;)

No-El
11-04-2005, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
I tend to agree Chloe has moved on for good now. I think she deserves a man that acknowledge how wonderful she is. I wish that somehow this reverse the crush and Clark is the one who will be crushing after her but there is not time since they can't end the show with them as a couple since he will have to fall for Lois along the road...unless Chlois of course ;)


OOOOHHHHH!!!!:p :p :p :p

"Reverse crush" on Clark this time, what a delicious idea!

Only add that letter to the mix which Chloe wrote and poured her heart out to him Season 3 'Fever'!!!

I can see it now:

Forgive me Chloe for all my insensitivity! Come back:(

Chihiro
11-04-2005, 10:36 AM
Chloe deserves a lot more than an angst-ridden farmboy whom she cares for very much even back when she thought he was just a farmboy. Though back in Season 2 and 3 I had hoped Clark would see how wonderful Chloe was in that "Some Kind of Wonderful" John Hughes moment, I realize now that it's never gonna happen. Clark will pine for Lana, and even now that they're dating he still has that half-woebegone, half-guilty look for keeping so many secrets from her.

I'm glad he confessed it to Chloe. He didn't have to tell her that he was from another planet, but if he had to tell a friend, Chloe's the best choice. Despite her obsession with the arcane, Chloe was a friend through and through, and never pushed Clark to reveal what he wasn't ready to share. They might never make it as a couple, but in a way, I think they're soulmates.

No-El
11-04-2005, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Chihiro
Chloe deserves a lot more than an angst-ridden farmboy whom she cares for very much even back when she thought he was just a farmboy. Though back in Season 2 and 3 I had hoped Clark would see how wonderful Chloe was in that "Some Kind of Wonderful" John Hughes moment, I realize now that it's never gonna happen. Clark will pine for Lana, and even now that they're dating he still has that half-woebegone, half-guilty look for keeping so many secrets from her.

I'm glad he confessed it to Chloe. He didn't have to tell her that he was from another planet, but if he had to tell a friend, Chloe's the best choice. Despite her obsession with the arcane, Chloe was a friend through and through, and never pushed Clark to reveal what he wasn't ready to share. They might never make it as a couple, but in a way, I think they're soulmates.


Yeah, you're right good points.

And oh, your last comment referrencing "soulmates" is priceless. They are but don't realize it. Maybe Jor-El sees through this, she was in this series so far the first and only one in the F.O.S. in Arrival and Jor-El/Oracle picked up on it straightway!

Kinda makes us all wonder again about "THE WARNING" from 'Hidden' episode!!:( :( :( :confused:

SmallvilleMan
11-04-2005, 11:01 AM
Yeah, Chloe's also the one who went to Lionel Luthur and offered to research clark. Not exactly what i'd call the best choice. Even though she is a good friend and clark did have to tell chloe. She was in the FOS for goodness sakes. What was he going to say? "Ah duh, this just a fort i made in second grade." He had to tell chloe, not telling her everything completely, would have been dumb. She knew about the powers, the FOS, the chamber and almost everything already.

Chihiro
11-04-2005, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah, Chloe's also the one who went to Lionel Luthur and offered to research clark. Not exactly what i'd call the best choice. Even though she is a good friend and clark did have to tell chloe. She was in the FOS for goodness sakes. What was he going to say? "Ah duh, this just a fort i made in second grade." He had to tell chloe, not telling her everything completely, would have been dumb. She knew about the powers, the FOS, the chamber and almost everything already.

I realize that she'd seen him in the Fortress of Solitude. But he could've lied, especially since she was assuming he's a meteor freak.

While going to Lionel (without telling Clark) was an act of betrayal, if I remember correctly, she was curious about Clark as well, of his actions and excuses. Who wouldn't be? But yeah, that was a dumb move.

The important thing, for me, is that she redeemed herself in the end by being a good friend to Clark. Their friendship has had its shares of ups and downs (even best friends fight sometimes), but it took more than just an open mind for the budding reporter who called kryptonite-infected teens "freaks" to accept that her best friend, who's also the boy she's been infatuated with for years, is from another planet. AND keep his secret (so far). Not all friendships survive all that. :)

SmallvilleMan
11-04-2005, 11:22 AM
He could have lied and what good would that have done? Chloe's not stupid. She was 3 quarters of the way in the door, why not let her all the way in? She was curious about Clark and so was Lana, but Lana never went to Lionel Luthur. Not to mention Chloe also went to Lionel to get a job at the Daily Planet, a very selfish and back stabbing move. Chloe is a good friend and she did redeem herself, in blank and when she found out Clark's secret. She is a good friend.

Chihiro
11-04-2005, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by No-El
Kinda makes us all wonder again about "THE WARNING" from 'Hidden' episode!!:( :( :( :confused:


Noooo!!!!! Though it would make a memorable episode, I'm not ready to see my favorite Smallville reporter leave the scene just yet. I've just started to enjoy the older and improved Daily Planet intern Chloe Sullivan. She's always been crucial at tying SV Clark Kent's interest to journalism to that of the comic book Clark Kent.

Again: Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( Cross your fingers!

No-El
11-04-2005, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Chihiro
Noooo!!!!! Though it would make a memorable episode, I'm not ready to see my favorite Smallville reporter leave the scene just yet. I've just started to enjoy the older and improved Daily Planet intern Chloe Sullivan. She's always been crucial at tying SV Clark Kent's interest to journalism to that of the comic book Clark Kent.

Again: Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( Cross your fingers!


I did it again, uh????:( :( :( :( :(

Sorry to bring that WARNING up again, I apoligized to another poster and she was sooooooooooo rattled!!! Had to reassure her and you:

*Al Gough will not fire his precious Allison from Smallville---she's a wonderful actress that is priceless to the entire Series Plot-line!

*Chloe just started as a College freshman and intern at the Daily Planet and is roommates with Lana now.

*The cast, producers, network executives, ratings and fans will all take a devastating hit if Allison goes this early in the Season.

*The Big 100th episode is in February and if Al and company are planning "Saint Valentines Day Massacre" that month they WILL NOT destroy the one bright spot in the Show----Allison Mack!

And, as Allison put it for this current season after reading the Season 5 script...."I'm gonna have great YEAR, aren't I....?!"

So relax and take a deep breath it'll be ok! Be concerned about the veteran actors for Smallville is primarily a teen oriented show.:D

jimmyolsenblues
11-04-2005, 01:25 PM
There is no greater power in this Physical Universe than the hope of a "Chlarker". I will not rain on your parade, just give you Mad Props for being eternally hopeful in the face of doom and gloom. I wish I could apply the optimism of a "Chlarker" in my daily life, I would be very successful.

margroks
11-04-2005, 02:03 PM
First, there is not, by any means, a consensus across the board that Chlark shouldn't happen. Personally, I think Clark is an idiot to even look at Lana Lang, whom he knows would hate him if she knew who he was (much less lie to her about it so he could screw her) when he could have the smart and beautiful Chloe.

After all, Clark has been looking for girls who knew his secret or part of it, so he could "feel free" around them. Clark was plainly falling for Chloe in season one and has been shown to be very attracted to her. THe show's own logic deriving from that plus the fact that Clark has repeatedly said he knew he wasn't the guy for Lana, etc, and that he was accepting his own true nature made this the perfect time for Clark to turn to Chloe as more than just his beast friend. That he didn't when he realized how much she knew and helped him secretly made him look as dumb as a box of rocks.

As for Chlark, it's much more than just romantic linking, it encompasses the tremendous chemistry Clark and Chloe have together no mater what they're doing, be it fighting, investigating or dancing during Tempest. It's how they relate to one another in such an interesting, synergistic way that makes it so compelling when they're on screen. In contrast, Lana and Lois are both cardboard cutouts characters and the lack of chemistry comes across loud and clear when either one of them is on screen with Clark. Even the appalling sex scene with Lana was dry as dust. Strictly by the numbers and the only sexy thing was Tom Welling minus his shirt. They just don't have it. How could I possibly root for a relationship built on such a pathetic foundation with a girl who is so dull and uninspiring?

If Clark is to have any relationship, romantic or otherwise it should be with someone who's more than an object. Lana and Clark stare at each other mostly and that is just boooring.

Now I wouldn't mind it if they got together, thereby proving Clark does have some brain cells not sucked out by his almost creepy fixation on Lana, just as creepy and blind as Alicia's fixation on him in many ways.

This is how the Lionel thing went down. Chloe thinks Clark and Lane appear to be lying about their relationship despite the fact that they have agreed to open about such things amongst them and so, thinking if they have what they want, I'll just go for what I want. SHe went to Lionel and said she'd take him up on his offer to get her a place at the Planet thinking she could handle Lionel, keeping him at bay and get the job she wanted. That point was made and she told Clark face to face she never gave Lionel he didn't already have. In fact, she kept Lionel away from Clark during the summer of his disappearance by refusing to reveal his whereabouts and that was something she paid dearly for. This is all canon seen on screen.

Foolish? Yes, she was to think she could manage Lionel Luthor. But not betrayal and I wouldn't charcterize it as backstabbing. She went for it just as she saw Clark and Lana doing, while they both lied to her. She had no idea Clark wasn't talking becasue he had to blow up the ship and wanted her to leave for her own safety. aLthough, if you want to call someone a backstabber, Lana, lying to Chloe outright and manipulating Clark into talking to Chloe about their dating when she should have been the one? Now that's some backstabbing to the girl who gave you a roof over your head.


Chloe has been much nicer to Clark and put up with more crap from both him and Lana than I would have believed possible. THat she is still such a good friend to him now is quite amazing. Clark should be thanking God every day he still has Chloe in his life.

Personally, though, while Chloe does deserve her chance with Clark by all rights, I'd be happier still to see her end up as Lois Lane, the possibility and reasons why it might happed being still discussed in the Chlois thread if anyone is interested in more details.

Chihiro
11-04-2005, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by No-El
I did it again, uh????:( :( :( :( :(

Sorry to bring that WARNING up again, I apoligized to another poster and she was sooooooooooo rattled!!! Had to reassure her and you:

*Al Gough will not fire his precious Allison from Smallville---she's a wonderful actress that is priceless to the entire Series Plot-line!

*Chloe just started as a College freshman and intern at the Daily Planet and is roommates with Lana now.

*The cast, producers, network executives, ratings and fans will all take a devastating hit if Allison goes this early in the Season.

*The Big 100th episode is in February and if Al and company are planning "Saint Valentines Day Massacre" that month they WILL NOT destroy the one bright spot in the Show----Allison Mack!

And, as Allison put it for this current season after reading the Season 5 script...."I'm gonna have great YEAR, aren't I....?!"

So relax and take a deep breath it'll be ok! Be concerned about the veteran actors for Smallville is primarily a teen oriented show.:D

Whew! Thanks! :)

But if, IF Chloe were to die, it'd make a great arc for Lois and Clark to be directed into journalism.

I'd hate to see the veteran actors leave, especially O'Toole. Her Martha Kent keeps the Kents grounded, and she was great as a teenager in Season 4's Spirit.

After that backlash at the end of Season 3, I hope the producers have learned their lesson. =)

No-El
11-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Chihiro
Whew! Thanks! :)

But if, IF Chloe were to die, it'd make a great arc for Lois and Clark to be directed into journalism.

I'd hate to see the veteran actors leave, especially O'Toole. Her Martha Kent keeps the Kents grounded, and she was great as a teenager in Seasons 4's Spirit.

After that backlash at the end of Season 3, I hope the producers have learned their lesson. =)


Glad you're OK!

But, however it goes this February 2006, some people in both or one of several 'camps' on either side of this controversy are not going to be happy.

Hence ....."you can't please ALL the people ALL the time".:(

I should add I saw a post in the speculation part of the forum that Chloe IS in Episode #13---after of course the big one!!

O'Toole and Glover are the best along with John and they have great love and admiration for Allison and her personality.

Let's face it, its an endearing family show in the Superman Saga!:D :cool:

kido
11-04-2005, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by margroks
Foolish? Yes, she was to think she could manage Lionel Luthor. But not betrayal and I wouldn't charcterize it as backstabbing. She went for it just as she saw Clark and Lana doing, while they both lied to her. She had no idea Clark wasn't talking becasue he had to blow up the ship and wanted her to leave for her own safety. aLthough, if you want to call someone a backstabber, Lana, lying to Chloe outright and manipulating Clark into talking to Chloe about their dating when she should have been the one? Now that's some backstabbing to the girl who gave you a roof over your head.


amazing. chloe investigating clark even after he asked her not to and then turning what she had dug up over to lionel luthor in order to advance her own ambitions is not a betrayal or backstabbing, but lana lang sitting with clark under a tree expressing her concern about chloe's feelings with regards to their change in status somehow is.

are there some outtakes somewhere with lana lang slapping some girl scouts i haven't seen?

SmallvilleMan
11-04-2005, 04:05 PM
First, there is not, by any means, a consensus across the board that Chlark shouldn't happen. Personally, I think Clark is an idiot to even look at Lana Lang, whom he knows would hate him if she knew who he was (much less lie to her about it so he could screw her) when he could have the smart and beautiful Chloe.


No, he doesn't know that and why wouldn't he look at her? She's better looking than chloe and probably smarter. Not that chloe is bad or anything, she has her days ;)


After all, Clark has been looking for girls who knew his secret or part of it, so he could "feel free" around them. Clark was plainly falling for Chloe in season one and has been shown to be very attracted to her. THe show's own logic deriving from that plus the fact that Clark has repeatedly said he knew he wasn't the guy for Lana, etc, and that he was accepting his own true nature made this the perfect time for Clark to turn to Chloe as more than just his beast friend. That he didn't when he realized how much she knew and helped him secretly made him look as dumb as a box of rocks.


Clark hasn't repeatedly said he wasn't the guy for lana, he said it once. Is once, repeating? Clark liked chloe for about 3 episodes in season 1, AFTER he though he blew his chance with Lana. Then when chloe told him they should stay friends, he didn't look sad at all. In fact, she even tried to make him jealous when she came back from metropolis in the second episode of season 2 and Clark just shrugged it off.


Now I wouldn't mind it if they got together, thereby proving Clark does have some brain cells not sucked out by his almost creepy fixation on Lana, just as creepy and blind as Alicia's fixation on him in many ways.


Yeah, just as creepy as chloe's fixation on clark.


This is how the Lionel thing went down. Chloe thinks Clark and Lane appear to be lying about their relationship despite the fact that they have agreed to open about such things amongst them and so, thinking if they have what they want, I'll just go for what I want. SHe went to Lionel and said she'd take him up on his offer to get her a place at the Planet thinking she could handle Lionel, keeping him at bay and get the job she wanted. That point was made and she told Clark face to face she never gave Lionel he didn't already have. In fact, she kept Lionel away from Clark during the summer of his disappearance by refusing to reveal his whereabouts and that was something she paid dearly for. This is all canon seen on screen.


Yes, poor chloe, she runs off to Lionel luthur after clark and Lana don't tell her about their relationship for a day. Boo woo, honestly, ONE DAY and they are suppose to run to chloe, telling her about their relationship. Then, Chloe does something incredibily selfish and offers up her best friend for a job at the Daily Planet. Because she thinks she can handle lionel Luthur? She's either really naive or really stupid if she thought that. I don't recall Lana, who of all people would want to know his secret above anyone doing that. The point is, Chloe was selfish and a horrible friend to do that.


Foolish? Yes, she was to think she could manage Lionel Luthor. But not betrayal and I wouldn't charcterize it as backstabbing. She went for it just as she saw Clark and Lana doing, while they both lied to her. She had no idea Clark wasn't talking becasue he had to blow up the ship and wanted her to leave for her own safety. aLthough, if you want to call someone a backstabber, Lana, lying to Chloe outright and manipulating Clark into talking to Chloe about their dating when she should have been the one? Now that's some backstabbing to the girl who gave you a roof over your head.


Oh please, Lana manipulating? That's funny, Lana didn't manipulate anything. CLARK, as in Clark Kent, said he would talk to her, because he and chloe decided to be honest with each other. Backstabbing is what chloe did to clark. Offering up your so called best friend to Lionel Luthur, so you can get yourself a job. Then the best part was in "Whisper" when she tried to turn it around on Clark and make what she did seem less bad. Clark and Lana had liked each other for 1 and a half now, chloe knew that. But she was jealous, plain and simple, that Clark loved Lana, not her. Like chloe said, "Clark and Lana are finally happy, that's all that would matter to a real friend." And they were finally happy in season 2, but that didn't matter, did it?

No-El
11-05-2005, 09:56 AM
All interesting comments!

However, those openings statements made by Chloe...."....how will you ever get along without Clark!...." had an underlying meaning directed toward the entire CHLARKER community!!

It's as if Allison Mack was actually reading our the CHLARKER message boards online. And the writers put that line in the scene!

Chihiro
11-05-2005, 03:24 PM
About that comment Chloe made, who is Richie Cunningham??? *scratches head*

Old Juan
11-05-2005, 04:15 PM
About that comment Chloe made, who is Richie Cunningham??? *scratches head*

Richie Cunningham was the main character on the television show Happy Days. He was a clean cut wholesome boy. He was played by Ron Howard.

As for Chloe's feelings on Clark, well there's an article in the new TV insider magazine about Smallville and features Allison Mack where she talks about Chloe's feelings for Clark. She says that she's in love with him and probably always will be. Since Allison knows the character probably better than anyone I'm going to have to take her word on the subject. Chloe is not over Clark and probably never will be.

No-El
11-05-2005, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Chihiro
About that comment Chloe made, who is Richie Cunningham??? *scratches head*


Actually Lois made the 'Ritche Cunningham' remark to Chloe.

But here is a portion of the interview/article I posted in the Actors forum under Chloe.
Note the first half talks about "Lexmas" coming up this holiday with 3 photos of the behind the scenes shoot and a spoiler regarding the episode. It involves a pregnant Lana lang curtesy of Lex. Never trust spoilers though!!:


Article titled "Welcome to Smallville"
From Inside TV Magazine November 7-13 page 50.

As for Chloe's love life, it seems she's destined to never get the man she really wants: Clark (Tom Welling). "She's always been in love with him, and she always will be," explains Allison, who is happily dating Canadian painter and Stargate SG-1 actor Chad Krowchuk. "She's pretty much solo right now."

But as all Smallville fans know, Chloe's the real hero behind the Superman-in-the-making. "She saves his butt and let's him take the credit for it," says Allison, who got her start as a child model at age 4.

She's outspoken and incredibly independent," says Allison. "She's also very intelligent, which is nice because you rarely get to play an intelligent character as a blonde girl on TV."* (end of article)

Bumperjeep
11-05-2005, 06:20 PM
I thikn that everyone desereves a shot with Clark. Chole was the only person that didn't get a chance to be with Clark, or going to be with Clark. I think that it would significantly boost the ratings

No-El
11-05-2005, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Bumperjeep
I thikn that everyone desereves a shot with Clark. Chole was the only person that didn't get a chance to be with Clark, or going to be with Clark. I think that it would significantly boost the ratings


If only they would Bumperjeep!! If only they would!:( :( :( :mad: :mad: :(

Chihiro
11-06-2005, 02:01 AM
But as all Smallville fans know, Chloe's the real hero behind the Superman-in-the-making. "She saves his butt and let's him take the credit for it," says Allison, who got her start as a child model at age 4.

She's outspoken and incredibly independent," says Allison. "She's also very intelligent, which is nice because you rarely get to play an intelligent character as a blonde girl on TV."* (end of article) [/B]

That is so true, and especially evident in Mortal(?), when Clark lost his powers and had to break into Level 3. :p Clark learned a lot from Chloe.

No-El
11-06-2005, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Chihiro
That is so true, and especially evident in Mortal(?), when Clark lost his powers and had to break into Level 3. :p Clark learned a lot from Chloe.


Yeah! :D

Remember the line..."....sometimes you just have to know when to turn the power off!"

Clark definitely 'learned' and took that cue from our Chloe!:D :lol:

Chihiro
11-06-2005, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by No-El
Yeah! :D

Remember the line..."....sometimes you just have to know when to turn the power off!"

Clark definitely 'learned' and took that cue from our Chloe!:D :lol:


:rotfl: Yeah, and a whining Clark Kent really cracked me up! To paraphrase Chloe, "I didn't know whining was one of your special abilities." LOL.

If Lois only knew, she'd be the one asking Chloe, "Now that you're in Metropolis, how would Ritchie Cunningham ever survive without you?" Hehehe.

No-El
11-06-2005, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Chihiro
:rotfl: Yeah, and a whining Clark Kent really cracked me up! To paraphrase Chloe, "I didn't know whining was one of your special abilities." LOL.

If Lois only knew, she'd be the one asking Chloe, "Now that you're in Metropolis, how would Ritchie Cunningham ever survive without you?" Hehehe.


hahahahaha:lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one!:D

They (TPTB) must do something and take the present Chlark relationship FURTHER----I mean really write a good romantic story for a two episode arc (fan fiction anyone?).

Maybe next season---I can't take much more of this---just best friends plot line!!:mad:

Or is it just the romantic me???

Chihiro
11-06-2005, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by No-El
They (TPTB) must do something and take the present Chlark relationship FURTHER----I mean really write a good romantic story for a two episode arc (fan fiction anyone?).

Maybe next season---I can't take much more of this---just best friends plot line!!:mad:

Or is it just the romantic me???

It's the romantic you! :p

Seriously, it HURTS to see the capable (and just wonderful) Chloe Sullivan pining away for Clark. There must be someone out there for her!!! :mad:

Watching Smallville
11-06-2005, 11:22 AM
It is sad. But love isn't logical.

Maybe she'll pick up w/ Jimmy again, now that she's at the Planet.

No-El
11-06-2005, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Chihiro
It's the romantic you! :p

Seriously, it HURTS to see the capable (and just wonderful) Chloe Sullivan pining away for Clark. There must be someone out there for her!!! :mad:


hahahaha:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well that confirms it----incurable romantic!:lol: :lol: :D

Well, like Allison said about her Chloe, in that November 7-13 2005 article in Inside TV....."She's pretty much solo right now."

Also, from what I read this Season 5 is well here, read the quote which will validate her continuance and ease other Chlarker fears:

From the Thread forum ---Smallville Theories & Speculation - Chloe's Death:

quote:
well, this IS chole's best season yet. also, note that a lof of actors say that they are going to develop more or it's their best written scripts yet or something when they are about to change, die, or go off somewhere not to return for a long time or something. it's either a ruse or they are trying to comfort themselves into thinking the tradeoff of being away is that the character becomes important.


That wasn't what AM said. Greg Beeman said in an interview that when Allison saw the first 3 scripts she said "I'm gonna have a really great year aren't I?" And it will indeed be Chloe's best year. That was confirmed by Greg Beeman (producer/director) AND Mark Warshaw (writer, in charge of the Chloe Chronicles, and the Torch and Ledger websites). In fact, Mark Warshaw said that "the lot of this season would be heavily Chloe centric." If y'all don't believe me I can get the quote from Veaglarwen's LJ because she got to meet Warshaw and that's what he said.


Well what do ya that one---another bullet dodged; just call Chloe/Allison "Supergir"!!:D :D :lol:

Chihiro
11-06-2005, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
It is sad. But love isn't logical.

Sigh. "The heart has its reasons, of which reason knows nothing."

I have to admit the "teen angst and special abilities combo" made Smallville an interesting show for me, especially in the earlier seasons. Conflict and underlying tension between the main characters (and unrequited love) keep me glued to my seat, gripping the armchair, yelling at the screen. It's sheer torture for a viewer like me but it makes for a good show. :D

Watching Smallville
11-06-2005, 03:11 PM
Nice quote.

No-El
11-06-2005, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Chihiro
Sigh. "The heart has its reasons, of which reason knows nothing."

I have to admit the "teen angst and special abilities combo" made Smallville an interesting show for me, especially in the earlier seasons. Conflict and underlying tension between the main characters (and unrequited love) keep me glued to my seat, gripping the armchair, yelling at the screen. It's sheer torture for a viewer like me but it makes for a good show. :D


Yeah, sheer torture and it works!!!:mad:

aqua
11-06-2005, 04:42 PM
Uh, no offense, but I think you're reading way to into it. I read those lines and tried to connect them to Chlark, but I couldn't. She was just talking to Lois about Clark.

I hate that AM quote about how she saves the day and lets Clark take the credit. Umm.. when? Clark and Chloe worked together in Mortal, and that's the only instance I can think of.

constancelight
11-06-2005, 09:06 PM
Chloe does save the day. She has always been the one to do all the research on something and then Clark sees it and takes off to the rescue. But, it's Chloe that tells him where to go. If she wasn't there, Clark probably wouldn't have saved as many people as he has been able to.

xrayvision
11-06-2005, 09:27 PM
I also hope the Chlois theory becomes true. Chlark may be good, but it's only temporary. Chlois would be the best. That letter in Fever and her actions throughout the years have shown that Chloe is the best for Clark. She supports him being Superman more than anyone (even the current Lois Lane who likes guys who are trying to save the world). Chloe takes it several steps beyond Lois. They are just a great team.

No-El
11-08-2005, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I also hope the Chlois theory becomes true. Chlark may be good, but it's only temporary. Chlois would be the best. That letter in Fever and her actions throughout the years have shown that Chloe is the best for Clark. She supports him being Superman more than anyone (even the current Lois Lane who likes guys who are trying to save the world). Chloe takes it several steps beyond Lois. They are just a great team.


I'm with you on that one!:D

With Smallville?? Always a possibility!

bluegayle
11-08-2005, 11:02 AM
on the contrary, i have always thought college was the best time to have a chlark relationship.

everyone knows about lana as the high-school clark's dream girl.

everyone knows about lois as the mature clark's dream girl.

the "smallville" series could have created a new storyline with chloe and clark hooking up for a while in college.

in previous seasons, clark would keep to himself again as he decided he still couldn't tell lana about his secret. why is season 5 different? especially now there is another girl who does know his secret.

ok so he has told chloe several times there isn't anything there to let them have a relationship. but that is before you just suddenly have a new best friend who reallly really knows things about you that no one else does.

No-El
11-08-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by bluegayle
on the contrary, i have always thought college was the best time to have a chlark relationship.

everyone knows about lana as the high-school clark's dream girl.

everyone knows about lois as the mature clark's dream girl.

the "smallville" series could have created a new storyline with chloe and clark hooking up for a while in college.

in previous seasons, clark would keep to himself again as he decided he still couldn't tell lana about his secret. why is season 5 different? especially now there is another girl who does know his secret.

ok so he has told chloe several times there isn't anything there to let them have a relationship. but that is before you just suddenly have a new best friend who reallly really knows things about you that no one else does.


One can always wish for a good, a reeeeeal good CHLARKER college story line/arc!!:D :cool:

It would make an interesting episode title"

"When Best Friends become Lovers"

or something to that!!:D :D

Wish I could paste a good Chlark picture with this text instead of hyperlinking!

All about Clark
11-08-2005, 12:45 PM
Clark really needs Chloe to just be his friend, nothing else will happen.

As for Chloe saving the day, I don't buy it, just cause one can gather information, she doesn't really do much with that information other than write an article. Whereas Clark gathers information from any source, especially Chloe, to act on this information to save the day. As much as they make a great team, it is Clark and his abilities that protect people not Chloe.

And by the way, Clark doesn't take credit either, even though he could.

No-El
11-08-2005, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
Clark really needs Chloe to just be his friend, nothing else will happen.

As for Chloe saving the day, I don't buy it, just cause one can gather information, she doesn't really do much with that information other than write an article. Whereas Clark gathers information from any source, especially Chloe, to act on this information to save the day. As much as they make a great team, it is Clark and his abilities that protect people not Chloe.

And by the way, Clark doesn't take credit either, even though he could.


Ok!

Mind you these are Allison's statements from her November 7-13th 2005 Inside TV interview---re: Chloe saving the day etc...and I thought it was generally understood that Clark/Superman doesn't take credit for his rescues.

But, let's focus on why you believe that although Clark and Chloe are just friends NOW that, that "nothing else will happen" meaning a budding romance!:p

All about Clark
11-08-2005, 04:55 PM
1) He doesn't have those feelings for her and 2) he doesn't want anything to hurt this relationship, she is the only one he can confide to.

No-El
11-08-2005, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
1) He doesn't have those feelings for her and 2) he doesn't want anything to hurt this relationship, she is the only one he can confide to.


Well, as Mr. Spock would say "indeed?...logical, flawlessly logical!":(

Makes perfect sense! But it still does not keep one wishing, you know writers come up with some interesting things now and then.;)

Supersonic
11-08-2005, 07:30 PM
Chlark should happen!

Chlark should happen!

Chlark should happen!

Chlark should happen!

Come on, Lana is whiney and Lois is corney =D

No-El
11-08-2005, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Supersonic
Chlark should happen!

Chlark should happen!

Chlark should happen!

Chlark should happen!

Come on, Lana is whiney and Lois is corney =D


Chlark should, and WILL happen!

They must be progressing to that point, a VERY SLOW PROCESS!!:mad:

SteveS
11-08-2005, 09:08 PM
Ah yes, another snide remark about Clark from Nois done behind his back to Chloe. While doing this, this do-nothing 20+ year old young woman is playing video games with her life.

Just re-watched last week's show and noticed that what the Loisette's hope for as 'chemistry' is still nothing but embarrassment as Clark looks at Nois. She might as well be his mother or Jabba-the-Hut. Even Nois recognized it even if her fans didn't.

It makes no difference what various groups of fans think about Chlark or Nois, what will happen will happen. Thus far (despite the pitiful and immature recalling of an incident with Lionel YEARS ago), as long as Chloe is the superior achiever and true friend to ClarkMan while Nois achieves nothing except a non-stop record of snide comments about Clark, people will discriminate as to which pairing is the better match and Chlark will survive nicely.

And once again, Nois will never by Clarkman's 'soulmate4evah' on Smallville. You will see the real Lois in "Superman Returns."

No-El
11-09-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by SteveS
Ah yes, another snide remark about Clark from Nois done behind his back to Chloe. While doing this, this do-nothing 20+ year old young woman is playing video games with her life.

Just re-watched last week's show and noticed that what the Loisette's hope for as 'chemistry' is still nothing but embarrassment as Clark looks at Nois. She might as well be his mother or Jabba-the-Hut. Even Nois recognized it even if her fans didn't.

It makes no difference what various groups of fans think about Chlark or Nois, what will happen will happen. Thus far (despite the pitiful and immature recalling of an incident with Lionel YEARS ago), as long as Chloe is the superior achiever and true friend to ClarkMan while Nois achieves nothing except a non-stop record of snide comments about Clark, people will discriminate as to which pairing is the better match and Chlark will survive nicely.

And once again, Nois will never by Clarkman's 'soulmate4evah' on Smallville. You will see the real Lois in "Superman Returns."


Your very last comment about the "real lois"

Are you referring to the line in "Superman Returns" where Kate Bosworth as Lois says/written in her column, to Superman...."the world doesn't need a superhereo and neither do I...!"

That is the only released script line I have read so far about her changed 'future feelings' about her Superman.

From what Bryan Singer says this new film "is more of a love story than action type film". Good for the dating crowd!:D :D

ms.c.
11-10-2005, 04:53 PM
I had no idea so many male posters were Chlark fans. I'd guess you are mostly Chloe fans which means you are men of taste. :)

Too bad the men on Smallville seem to lack similar good taste.

No-El
11-12-2005, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by ms.c.
I had no idea so many male posters were Chlark fans. I'd guess you are mostly Chloe fans which means you are men of taste. :)

Too bad the men on Smallville seem to lack similar good taste.


Bravo, ms.c.!:lol:

Well spoken!:D