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supergurl88
11-03-2005, 06:41 PM
what did u guys think?

Lexgirl33
11-03-2005, 07:05 PM
this gets my vote! I enjoyed it

Bittersweet
11-03-2005, 07:07 PM
For a sweeps show that was pretty good. Definatly beats out Thrist.

BlueNRed2
11-03-2005, 07:09 PM
I was left thinking "what did i just watch". I mean, it wasnt a bad episode but it wasnt anything near as exciting as some of the previous ones. It had some cute moments but nothing outstanding. Even the "highly" anticipated Stripper Lois wasnt that great. Also, Like PaleBlueDot mentioned, it did seem choppy in the storyline. I guess my overall impression was that it was a pretty deflated episode. Flat.

cayayofm
11-03-2005, 07:09 PM
I thought the overdone the Dukes oh Hazard references, why can't they be more sublte? The plot had various jumps were things and conclusions turned from nowhere, but over all a entertaining episode.

F-Stop Blues
11-03-2005, 07:16 PM
I really enjoyed it. I loved the Dukes stuff (especially the music during the JS/TW scenes. I thought Chloe was great and very funny. I loved Lois as well. I thought she was fit in very well in the story. Not forced as some people tend to think. And I thought the last scene was perfect for the 3 characters. It didnt throw the clois in your face, it showed that they are becoming better friends which is what I have been saying since Aqua. And Chloe and her by-line were awesome as well.

Overall I thought this episode was lighthearted but in a much better way than thirst and some of the lighter season 4 eps. I realize that sex trafficking isnt a light hearted subject but overall imo this ep was on the lighter side. Sort of the calm before the storm. The storm being Splinter. I love the direction that the show is going in. There was alot of emphasis on heroes, and you can tell that its affecting Clark a great deal which is great. Oh and I absolutely LOVE Maggie Sawyer. I loved her in Insurgence and Exile. And I couldnt believe that they gave her so much to do in this ep. I mean she went to the Kent Farm. I couldnt believe that. Imo she is a much better character and actress than Sherriff Adams who I actually do like at times. Anyway I really liked the episode. I'm still not crazy about JK running for office but its a cool storyline for lex so I'm cool with that. I'm really digging smallville right now.

cayayofm
11-03-2005, 07:19 PM
What is Lous going to do in Smallville? However does not Lana haave to go home in the christmas and spring breaks?

Where was Martha?

Where was Martha?

SmvilleTeacher
11-03-2005, 07:21 PM
Very good, very funny episode. Much, much better than I thought and way outshines Thirst. When the episode started it made me think of a LnC ep or just Lois and Clark working at the DP getting a frantic call. Very good. I love that we are moving more into Metropolis and away from FOTW stories.

Great things in this episode:
*The Dukes references - priceless especially the car and the driving
*Lois' abrasive comments - Chloe: How will you ever live w/o Clark? Lois: one word - blissfully. And when Clark saves her what does she say: about time you showed up 007
*Clark's obvious revulsion of Lois' dancing
*Clark ordering his drink at the club in a deep voice: "I'll have a Coke straight up on the rocks

On a more serious note
*When the police detective tells Lois and Clark if they want justice they should stay closer to home - giving Clark a reason to return to Metropolis to bring justice the Superman way.
*And when Lois tells Clark that she'snot taking Lana's place just her sublet - more foreshadowing I think. And then there were her sentimental comments about him always being there for her and being a friend. Great to see this friendship grow.

Overall, good episode. Happy with the result. I was afraid of what was going to transpire with the whole Lois stripping scene, but done well. I give it 8/10.

sstray72
11-03-2005, 07:24 PM
I enjoyed the episode. In fact, I think I'll watch it again right now! :D

I'll give it a B!

jag5311
11-03-2005, 07:24 PM
It was alright. I am not one to say an episode was great because Lois was in a stripper outfit.

There wasn't much Clark action (super stuff I mean), and I know that doesn't have to be the situation everytime...but being in the fifth season, I figured we would start seeing some more action.

Maybe it's just building up..

Sledge
11-03-2005, 07:25 PM
This episode was great! The flying car Dukes of Hazzard thing was frickin awesome, and I like how Clark and Lex are on better terms. This episode had a great theme of how hero's are frequently not who you think they are, and this really bothered Clark. The story Lex gave of King David at the end was priceless.

EricN68
11-03-2005, 07:28 PM
Wasn't my favorite; lacked some pizazz. I'm not a Hazard fan so that bit wasn't all that entertaining for me. Am I dreaming or did they kind of cut out the most exciting bit of Clark's helicopter scene -- where he would have leaped to reach it? The Clark/Lex scenes were good -- their relationship is getting back to "oddly complicated" which is a nice place for it to be. The best part of the episode for me, though, was the preview for next week.

F-Stop Blues
11-03-2005, 07:32 PM
Im surprised nobody has brought up the parallels to Superman 1 with the helicopter. It sure reminded me of that scene.

superhippie2000
11-03-2005, 07:34 PM
i thought this episode was pretty good. the clark and helicopter scene was awsome. next weeks episode looks like it can be one of the best

Sledge
11-03-2005, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by sstray72
I'll give it a B!

I'm definitely giving it an A. Although, I'm also the kind of person who likes the light humor references to other shows, like the buffy thing in last week's episode.

xrayvision
11-03-2005, 07:41 PM
I was disappointed.

I expected a lot more stuff with Wopat and JK. I don't like the idea of Senator Kent.

Also, I think there is an age limit to be senator and Lex Luthor is way too young.

I liked that conversation that Lex & Clark had about King David. It seems like it will foreshadow what happens between them and Lana.

I was expecting to see Clark try to stop that diplomat. They said he was off-limits with respect to the law, but then he got arrested. Does Interpol have the authority to do this whereas the domestic cops can't? I would liked to have seen a joint effort between Clark, Chloe, Jonathan and Senator Jennings to stop that guy. I hope we see more of Jennings and that his character gets exonerated.

I liked Lois being able to defend herself, but I think they took it to a level that was not believable. I'm sure an international criminal who's been doing that for a while would be a lot tougher to stop/beat up.

Where the hell was Martha? I don't know what they're doing with her. I wouldn't at all be surprised if she's one of the characters who gets killed off. I'm starting to think it's going to be Martha & Lionel.

I thought Clark at the strip club was hilarious. They should really have him be more relaxed. I guess this is foreshadowing of his glasses/mild mannered reporter era.

When I saw Lois playing computer games while Chloe was hard at work being a reporter, I thought that it's getting less believable how Lois will ever become a reporter herself. Lets hope Chlois becomes true!!

I wanted to hear Officer Maggie say something like "You again?" to Clark. Just something to show us that she remembers. I would have liked to have heard Clark ask her if she got a new police car (after what he did to her last one in Exile). This disappointed me.

I wanted to see a scene where Sheriff Adams chased after Bo & Luke (errm...Jonathan & Jack). I really thought they would have Jennings & JK take an active role in finding out what happened in that nightclub. I wanted to see the good 'ol boys in Metropolis.

Still no x-ray vision. I expected him to use it to see if the helicopter was still on the roof.

superhippie2000
11-03-2005, 07:42 PM
i thought this episode was pretty good. the clark and helicopter scene was awsome. next weeks episode looks like it can be one of the best

lanaslover
11-03-2005, 07:44 PM
i loved....parts...of it.....

VisionGirl
11-03-2005, 07:47 PM
The Chlo-Lo was awesome. More time needs to be dedicated to these two --- they explode with chemistry. By far the most enjoyable duo on the show. "God bless America..."

And, of course, love the clois...blah blah blah

What I was most intrigued by in this ep, though, was Lois as Lois Lane

There has been a lot of speculation lately about Chloe becoming Lois... how she better resembles the idea of LL. Well, tonight we saw not one, but TWO, instances where Lois showed she is an intrepid reporter in the making --- first with the cop, and secondly with the strip club. In both instances, Lois was willing to go out on the limb that Chloe was not.

Also of note -- did Lois rob a Galyons? What's with all the sporting goods? Bikes, snow shoes...hockey helmets?

katt12
11-03-2005, 07:48 PM
I sorta loved it. Most of the ep was hilarious, especially at the very end, but there were just a few key parts I didn't care for. It a whole lot better than Thirst, though!

Slytherin Princess
11-03-2005, 07:49 PM
i absolutely loved it! i'm so gitty right now. :D

MissSullivan
11-03-2005, 07:49 PM
I loved the ep. especially the end

GhostRider
11-03-2005, 07:50 PM
It was OK, nothing special. The highlights were the DoH stuff (I watched that when I was little), Lois stripping in front of Clark, and Clark bringing down the chopper. There were a few good Superman references here and there too.

A couple things bothered me though. The Clex is really getting confusing, I don’t know what’s going on there but I really wish Clark would stop acting like a total asshat around Lex. And if “Uncle” Jack was so close to the Kent’s why haven’t we ever seen him before? And the big one is that there was no movement on the main arc whatsoever; Fine and Lionel make much better villains than some perverted foreign guy.

iloveit
11-03-2005, 07:57 PM
i thought this episode was pretty good, it was funny :)

Kryptonianian Warrior
11-03-2005, 08:09 PM
It was a very solid episode and it deserves a B. I expected a little more out of it but I wasn't really dissapointed. I thought Clark was going to fly on the helicopter! The story could have went smoother but it was a good storyline overall. Next episode really looks to blow me away.

supergurl88
11-03-2005, 08:25 PM
i thought the episode was alright, better then last week. i love the reunion of the dukes of hazzard boys. i swear when they were driving around they could of played the song " the boys are back in town". lol
the strip joint was awesome! clark and lois being clueless and dont know what to say to each other. but why wouldnt chloe whisper to clark on why she was there...meh! dont care.
i thought the ending sucked! the russian dude (i think he was russian) couldnt go to jail because of the country thing. that was lame. i know its a true fact but lame.
i loved that chloe walks in at the talon saying shes in the paper. shes not on the first page but on the last page, at the bottom. lol.
but my only question is were was mama kent and lana? thats odd. i think this was the first episode without her.
i cant wait for next week!

tonytr87
11-03-2005, 08:27 PM
Can someone with Tivo translate what Chloe and Lois talked about at the beginning? I missed that part. Also for the last conversation b/w Clark and Lex? Thanks.

As for the episode itself, I thought it was decent. Nothing special but by no means bad. It was just kinda there. I'm also confused about Clark and Lex's relationship, but I think we're starting to see the break from Lex's point of view. The only time Clark ever shows up (Lex implied it's been weeks since Thirst) is when he wants a favor or information on something. What was it that Lex said about the friendship barrier? It probably sounds like I'm deaf but there was a lot of noise around me tonight so I didn't catch a lot of stuff.

supergurl88
11-03-2005, 08:28 PM
yeah, i know...i didnt get it too

phatum
11-03-2005, 08:31 PM
I thought this episode sucked. The preview of Lois stripping was way better than the actual episode. Also they did too many subtle Dukes of Hazard reverences. The last three episodes have been full of subtle refferences and I'm getting sick of it, like Aqua and the "junior lifegaurd association and with thirst "Buffy" I mean come on its getting out of hand. I don't want to sound like a hipocrit but I would have liked to see John and Jennings take a big jump in the charger and have it freeze in mid air and a voice over saying Those Kent boys better grow some wings cause there in a whole lot of trouble are something like that then cut to comercial

SuperClarkMode
11-03-2005, 08:35 PM
I loved it. It was a Lois episode for sure, but I love Erica's Lois. And it was so funny to see her "try" to strip sexy. I am sure Erica could do that pole justice, but thats not who Lois is. Lois just throws down her over top in most unsexy way possible! She is trying hard, but Lois just can't fake stripper skills!

Clarks reactions are gold too. Tom must be getting better at this whole acting thing, as he is playing Clark with more and more depth. I loved all the DOH jokes, and all the moments with the car. I do not think they overdid it. Over doing it would have the two shooting "YEEE HAWWW"! Thankfully, the teal color of the car did not look as bad as I first thought.

This one was good for Lex, as he needed to still be somewhat good once and awhile, he is not pure evil yet. Finally, no Lana, no Martha, and me no care! I think my new Season 5 list of quality (Best to worst.) goes like this: Arrival, Hidden, Mortal, Exposed, Aqua, and Thirst (Which will most likely remain last for most of the season!).

F-Stop Blues
11-03-2005, 08:44 PM
I think the clex relationship is cool when its really complex like it is right now. I wouldnt say the two are friends but you can still tell that Lex will not hurt Clark. Yes he puched him but Clark was beating the snot out of him. So imo Lex isnt evil until he willingly does something that hurts Clark, either emotionally or physically. He's not at that point quite yet imo.

tonytr87
11-03-2005, 08:46 PM
I like the fact they're not going too far with Lex yet, but at the same time it's making his characterization a little uneven. I mean in Aqua he seemed all evil but ever since then he's been showing more of his good side. Maybe it was Clark's "I defended you" line that made him take a step back.

phatum
11-03-2005, 08:48 PM
The first three episodes rocked. the last three were bad. If this is what smallville is going to be like from now on mabye this should be the last season

BELLAT
11-03-2005, 08:49 PM
Also, I think there is an age limit to be senator and Lex Luthor is way too young.
the age varies from State to State, in some states you can be as young as 21. I'm not sure what the age requirement for Kansas is

mrs lana kent
11-03-2005, 08:52 PM
ok.... I'm a total Clana fan, and being that Lana wasn't in the ep mad me a little mad. But overall I liked the episode... Then again i like all the episodes, i even thought Thirst was a good episode!!! lol

norman619
11-03-2005, 08:54 PM
Anything beats Thirst so that's not saying much. It was an OK episode. I wish it had more real meat in it. This show lacks good story arcs. Feels kinda disjointed most of the time.


Originally posted by Bittersweet
For a sweeps show that was pretty good. Definatly beats out Thrist.

tonytr87
11-03-2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by norman619
Anything beats Thirst so that's not saying much. It was an OK episode. I wish it had more real meat in it. This show lacks good story arcs. Feels kinda disjointed most of the time.

I happen to think the Lex/Fine subplot and the stuff from the first 3 episodes is a good story arc, the problem is they take breaks from it and leave things hanging for an episode or so to make way for filler. But this eppy set up some things for the future like foreshadowing Lexana and putting the senator idea in JK's mind.

warriorrenegade
11-03-2005, 09:36 PM
I'd give this episode a C- it didn't have enough of a story with the JK/SJ storyline. The ones I saw were ok, just felt like they could've have ellaborated more on him facing a policitical scandal. Erica was great in this episode and no not because she was "stripping" though it wasn't bad, I mean come on Im a guy nuff said. I was laughing my ass off when she came out to dance and she pulled her little march and salute routine. Tom was pretty good to he always plays bumbling & embarrased Clark perfect. Chloe still getting in the mix of things always good to see. Jk with Lex wow how long has it been since we've seen a scene with those two? They've always had great chemistry I think its overlooked. JK playing the father Lex wished he had with Lex playing the defiant son. I always get that vibe from those two. anyways Im done don't want to clog the board. later

Eryeal
11-03-2005, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by BELLAT
the age varies from State to State, in some states you can be as young as 21. I'm not sure what the age requirement for Kansas is

Age does not vary from state to state. You have to be 30 years old to be a Senator per the Constitution.

How old is Lex?

Emerald Dragen
11-03-2005, 10:05 PM
I have to say this episode was much anticipated by me, however I felt it was not as exciting as it could have been.

It wasn't a bad episode, but the action just wasn't there for me. There was a lot of humor and the references to Dukes and other Superman related stories of the past were done tastefully.

I enjoyed the episode, specific points would be the helicopter scene (rehash of Superman the movie when Lois is in trouble and he grabs the helicopter blagh blagh), the door being stuck on the car, the camera angles when the car was skidding out or jumping, the Lois reference saying she isn't replacing Lana. Lois in the Daily Planet, and her little dance scene; mmmmmmmmmmm. ( A bit awkward but still well played)

Things I missed, Lana, Ma Kent.

I enjoyed this mainly for the fact that this is the beginning of Lex's trek to the presidential office, it wasn't something I expected to see in Smallville.

All in all I say this was a general-lee good episode. HA HA

Smelly
11-03-2005, 10:09 PM
aqua<thirst<exposed.

Back on track. I enjoyed it.

Next week looks really good.

LoisLaneIsHott
11-03-2005, 10:10 PM
I thought the lois stripper scene was short. The swimsuit scene in aqua was actually better. as for the rest, it seemed like a normal ep

Jor'el_Ted
11-03-2005, 10:12 PM
The only thing i'm mad about it that i missed the whole opening sequence so i didn't get ta see any Lana this week. :( Though it was very enjoyable seein Lois workin da stripper pole. :D

I found Tom Wopat's character pretty interesting despite the fact he didn't have alot of screen time. I think i'll definatly be getting the original DoH on dvd now. :)

Summers
11-03-2005, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by BELLAT
the age varies from State to State, in some states you can be as young as 21. I'm not sure what the age requirement for Kansas is

Lex is too young according to federal law. He is under thirty. I'm going off one of my friends who has a minor in Political Science, and all my poly sci classes I took.

I loved this episode. Yay, the second episode I truly loved out of S5 :lol:.

The Good:
-Chlois at the Daily Planet, and Lois playing video games :)
-The Chlois and Clois this entire episode
-the vibe of Lois & Clark throughout the episode especially on the roof
-Maggie Sawyer actress did great, and did anyone see her smirk when Lois hit the Russian guy? I thought Sawyer was excellent, and showed the kids "this isn't SV anymore".
-Lois apprehension on stripping lol, and her Superman type boots was a nice touch
-Clex was decent. Lex was pulling the friend card nice.

What I didn't like:
-why must Clark act like an asshat so quickly? Don't get me wrong I understand why he has his assumptions with good reason, but he hanged Lex before knowing all the facts. He tells him "what a friend is suppose to be like". WTH?!! Clark has been lying to Lex the day he met him. Talking about calling the kettle black. Lex has either paid or bailed Clark out all episode long, and ...ugh.
-don't like the Senator race for Jonathan Kent idea. Too OOC for his character. It goes against what his character is about. Jonathan always kept his life private especially for Clark's sake, and doing the race is going to make it public. If Chloe can find Clark's adoption papers the press can be quicker.

Overall great episode, and next week looks really trippy :)

constancelight
11-03-2005, 10:20 PM
I liked this episode a lot. It was nice to see finally a story about real crime in Metropolis. No FOTW, no nutty labs or anything. Just politics, scandals, and murders. Stuff Superman/Clark Kent will face in his future.

I liked all the Dukes references. I didn't think they were overdone.

I thought Lois was actually really funny in this episode. The whole stripping scene was totally funny.

The Chloe/Lois scene in the beginning was very sweet. "Lois we're family...."

I liked how they brought in Dective Sawyer from S2&3.

It was good to see Lex still has good in him.

And having no Lana in the episode was good.

And Chloe getting her first byline....Pricless. Go Chloe!!

Kriminal
11-03-2005, 10:21 PM
this was a complete waste of an episode. there wasnt any point in it besides introducing the reason why jk decides to run for senator. They could of done this in the beginning of another episode that would of taken up 5 min. The lois scene was kind of a dissappointment. I actually enjoyed thirst more than this episode.

Summers
11-03-2005, 10:22 PM
It was important to the respect that it showed Clark and Chloe that they are no longer in Smallville anymore. That the way they did their investigating is now not permitted in the big city anymore. It helped the mindset of those characters as well.

F-Stop Blues
11-03-2005, 10:27 PM
I also thought that the writing was very good in this episode. We had a mention of Clark winning the title in Jinx and we had Chloe mentioning her halloween costume from Thirst. Plus I thought the ep had really great light moments between the characters and that sometimes doesnt come across that well on the show. Chloe asking Lois how will she live without Clark was funny, along with Clark acknowledging the awkardness of hanging out with Lois in Talon apt. I just thought the writing was great. You dont have to have a stupid plot to have a fun episode and I think this ep did that. And that ending was great, there was no real ship which I loved. I was worried that they were going to force a clois loft scene which I didnt really want and I was really happy in the direction that they took. Lois at the end looked really happy that she finally has actual friends. I thought it was a great way to end it.

Watching Smallville
11-03-2005, 10:27 PM
I liked this episode. Not a lot of big moments, but some good small ones. I liked the fact that they picked up w/ Chloe at the Planet right away. I appreciated the no-freak story line. I really liked the place where they left the friendship between Clasrk and Lex, a great balance between loyalty and distrust. And at the end, I saw the potential for chemistry between Clark and Lois, something I didn't expect to see at all in the series.

And the helicopter catch was sweet. :cool:


I give it a B+, but I susually need to watch an episode at least twice before I really know what I think.


Originally posted by Eryeal
Age does not vary from state to state. You have to be 30 years old to be a Senator per the Constitution.

I think that's for Congress. This is for the State Senate, and the rules are different. :)

GatorTex
11-03-2005, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I think that's for Congress. This is for the State Senate, and the rules are different. :)

Lex probably owns the Congress! ;)

Summers
11-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I also thought that the writing was very good in this episode. We had a mention of Clark winning the title in Jinx and we had Chloe mentioning her halloween costume from Thirst. Plus I thought the ep had really great light moments between the characters and that sometimes doesnt come across that well on the show. Chloe asking Lois how will she live without Clark was funny, along with Clark acknowledging the awkardness of hanging out with Lois in Talon apt. I just thought the writing was great. You dont have to have a stupid plot to have a fun episode and I think this ep did that. And that ending was great, there was no real ship which I loved. I was worried that they were going to force a clois loft scene which I didnt really want and I was really happy in the direction that they took. Lois at the end looked really happy that she finally has actual friends. I thought it was a great way to end it.

I agree. I loved it. I did my review on the previous page lol. I only had two nitpicks about it, but overall I was pleased :D.

Absentee
11-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Ummm.... I was bored to death.

I literally wanted to rip my eyes out.

The episode didn't really advance any stories. Another filler. It seems that's all Lois' role in SV, nothing but a filler. How sad, i almost feel sorry for her... almost.

Scorpio31
11-03-2005, 10:36 PM
This episode completely sucked. First the highly anticipated Lois striper scene absolutely sucked, she showed more in other episodes (and I thought stripers were supposed to be naked?). Second I wasn't even born when the Dukes of Hazard was on the air, so I didn't really care for those scenes at all. Third, it is official (to me anyway) I could never see EDLois with Clark they just seem like brother and sister, I just don't see the chemistry there, and that’s why this episode sucked(if there was chemistry between them I wouldn't mind seeing them together, but unfortunately it's just not there, well brother and sisterly yes, but not romantically). For once I actually wanted Lana to be on the show, she's way better then that Lois tart, I can't stand ED's Lois she is really not all that attractive, she's more masculine if anything, and Cross-eyed I could go on but I don't hate ED I just hate her Lois thats all.

abarsami
11-03-2005, 11:00 PM
Yup just a filler ep. Better than the last two, but worse than the 1st three.

At least the good epps start again next week. And next week looks awesome to say the least.

SteveS
11-03-2005, 11:03 PM
It wasn't the worst episode that I have ever seen and Chloe did add some substance to yet another light Lois episode. To her credit, I did find it pretty funny as Lois fumbled on stage and I do agree with Scorpio31 that there is no spark of chemistry between Lois and Clark. They are uncomfortable friends with no attraction to each other. (and yes, topless dancers get paid for being topless, not walking around in demure sequined two piece outfits. Lois would have at least been in a g-string)

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
11-03-2005, 11:07 PM
The cousins were great in this episode, Erica and Allison have an awesome chemistry, almost as great as Tom/Erica's ;)

I LMAO when Chloe said "God Bless America" :rotfl: Chloe and Lois have great banter too. The one thing I didn't like was that Lois did all the dirty work and asked almost all the questions and Chloe got all the credit :\ It shows why Lois will be the better repoter than Chloe, Mad Dog Lane will emerge ;)

Gotta love Lois kicking ass in this episode, I want to see more of that, it's a change from Lana the damsel in distress constantly :p I loved the look on Clark's face when he opened the helicopter door and saw that Lois had taken care of things, that was PRICELESS, kinda like his look in "Gone" when he saw that Lois took care of the military guys :D

Especially loved the end with Lois threatening to show everyone Clark's Elmer Fudd nightlight and him saying "Aye aye captain" that was just too cute :D

Somebody Stop Me
11-03-2005, 11:09 PM
The dialogue to me was bad. The only good scene was John and Michael. I actually like Thirst better.

I wish we could have a season where all the episodes were as good as Arrival and Hidden. Oh well.

amberdawn
11-03-2005, 11:12 PM
I loved this episode. It was a nice break from Lana.

I was cracking up at the scene with Jonathan and his friend in the car. Very Dukes of Hazzard. :lol:

Lois was awesome. Gotta love the way she can take care of herself and kick some ass.

Summers
11-03-2005, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

I loved the look on Clark's face when he opened the helicopter door and saw that Lois had taken care of things, that was PRICELESS, kinda like his look in "Gone" when he saw that Lois took care of the military guys :D


ah, man I didn't even catch that the first time. He as like "d'oh" lol.

Mr.Bond
11-03-2005, 11:14 PM
Sad to say but yeah this Episode seem to be a filler episode.

Lois / Clark : I like that they are trying to move forward and try to give us hints of the future with them. But I agree with Scorpio31 that Erica D/Lois and Tom W/Clark has no chemistry together. I like their scene banter at time but it just kind a give them the Brother and Sister relationship.

I do miss Lana in this episode, she plays the love interest very well.

Plus what with the villain? the Diplomant that has some obession with strippers? they did not really explain much about him other than he was involved in killing the Girl that the Senetor was in love with.

I dont know I think the writers are running out of good ideas and TPTB doesnt seem they care to much to do anything with the continuity of the story and making a better plot instead of always having the subplot takes over the show.

vyperman7
11-03-2005, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Summers
-don't like the Senator race for Jonathan Kent idea. Too OOC for his character. It goes against what his character is about. Jonathan always kept his life private especially for Clark's sake, and doing the race is going to make it public. If Chloe can find Clark's adoption papers the press can be quicker.

Overall great episode, and next week looks really trippy :)

Awesome point Mel. I never thought of it like that. That is very true. JK putting himself in the public eye brings attention to the Kent family as a whole. The last thing he should want is to bring that type of attention onto Clark. On the other hand though, I do like the JK vs Lex angle. I love their little feuds they have.

My review of Exposed....

What an AWESOME episode.

First of all, I am a long time fan of the Dukes of Hazzard. I loved all the little Dukes references in this episode. The one that made me laugh out loud was Lex calling Jack JK's "good ol' boy". Hilarious!! The driving scenes were great, and it was very cool how they showed the car flying through the air. It was so cool to see Schnieder and Wopat re-united.

I really enjoy the team of Lois and Chloe. They seem to make a good team together in an investigative sense, and I really enjoyed how this episode actually put Lois in a reporter like light with her disputing facts of the case with Maggie Sawyer, putting herself undercover to help get the story, etc.. I must say though, that Lois can't dance worth a damn. It was so funny though. To me, Erica has always had a great body, but the camera angle they showed of her coming out did not do her body justice. She looked too skinny. You could see her ribs poking out. The lap dance moment was classic Clois.

Chloe and Clark working together in the Daily Planet was a nice little segment. It brought out the Chlois side in me. A small detail that I thought was pretty cool, was Chloe's non-reaction to Clark's speed off. It really showed how accepting of Clark she really is, just to think of it as normal everyday life.

I really enjoyed the whole roof sequence. The special effects on the helicopter segment rocked. Clark catching the helicopter with one hand, was one of the best effect shots they have had in my opinion. The scene that gave me chills was Maggie Sawyer talking about truth and justice, with Lois and Clark standing side by side.

This episode also had some nice continuity. Maggie Sawyer was brought back, and I like the actress and how she played the character. There were also little nods like with Jack mentioning Clark winning the state championship, and Chloe talking about her Halloween costume. The writing department seem to be making improvements.

I would have to say that the only thing that bothers me about the episode and the show in general is the repeated interaction between Clark and Lex. I hate how they keep teasing the fallout, with events like the fight in Mortal, and Clark repeatedly saying that the friendship is over, only to show them hanging out together the next episode. Enough is enough already. The Clex was my favorite part of the show, but now it is starting to bug me because of all the back and forth they do.

Speaking of Clark and Lex, the forshadowing to Lex stealing Lana was very subtle with the story about King David. That is the other thing that I hate. Lana should not be the reason they have their rift. It is too epic, to be based on bad blood over a woman.

For me, this was the second best episode of the season after Arrival.

4.5/5

F-Stop Blues
11-03-2005, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7

My review of Exposed....

What an AWESOME episode.

First of all, I am a long time fan of the Dukes of Hazzard. I loved all the little Dukes references in this episode. The one that made me laugh out loud was Lex calling Jack JK's "good ol' boy". Hilarious!! The driving scenes were great, and it was very cool how they showed the car flying through the air. It was so cool to see Schnieder and Wopat re-united.

I really enjoy the team of Lois and Chloe. They seem to make a good team together in an investigative sense, and I really enjoyed how this episode actually put Lois in a reporter like light with her disputing facts of the case with Maggie Sawyer, putting herself undercover to help get the story, etc.. I must say though, that Lois can't dance worth a damn. It was so funny though. To me, Erica has always had a great body, but the camera angle they showed of her coming out did not do her body justice. She looked too skinny. You could see her ribs poking out. The lap dance moment was classic Clois.

Chloe and Clark working together in the Daily Planet was a nice little segment. It brought out the Chlois side in me. A small detail that I thought was pretty cool, was Chloe's non-reaction to Clark's speed off. It really showed how accepting of Clark she really is, just to think of it as normal everyday life.

I really enjoyed the whole roof sequence. The special effects on the helicopter segment rocked. Clark catching the helicopter with one hand, was one of the best effect shots they have had in my opinion. The scene that gave me chills was Maggie Sawyer talking about truth and justice, with Lois and Clark standing side by side.

This episode also had some nice continuity. Maggie Sawyer was brought back, and I like the actress and how she played the character. There were also little nods like with Jack mentioning Clark winning the state championship, and Chloe talking about her Halloween costume. The writing department seem to be making improvements.

I would have to say that the only thing that bothers me about the episode and the show in general is the repeated interaction between Clark and Lex. I hate how they keep teasing the fallout, with events like the fight in Mortal, and Clark repeatedly saying that the friendship is over, only to show them hanging out together the next episode. Enough is enough already. The Clex was my favorite part of the show, but now it is starting to bug me because of all the back and forth they do.

For me, this was the second best episode of the season after Arrival.

4.5/5

Great review Ryan, although I dont think Clark and Lex are friends now, they are just civil to each other. Also I didnt believe that Lex was truly full blown evil yet since he still tries to protect Clark. And this ep was no exception. To me Lex is evil when he deliberately hurts Clark.

Summers
11-03-2005, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7


Chloe and Clark working together in the Daily Planet was a nice little segment. It brought out the Chlois side in me. A small detail that I thought was pretty cool, was Chloe's non-reaction to Clark's speed off. It really showed how accepting of Clark she really is, just to think of it as normal everyday life.

I really enjoyed the whole roof sequence. The special effects on the helicopter segment rocked. Clark catching the helicopter with one hand, was one of the best effect shots they have had in my opinion. The scene that gave me chills was Maggie Sawyer talking about truth and justice, with Lois and Clark standing side by side.

I would have to say that the only thing that bothers me about the episode and the show in general is the repeated interaction between Clark and Lex. I hate how they keep teasing the fallout, with events like the fight in Mortal, and Clark repeatedly saying that the friendship is over, only to show them hanging out together the next episode. Enough is enough already. The Clex was my favorite part of the show, but now it is starting to bug me because of all the back and forth they do.


yea, I liked that in the Chlark in the DP. Just told him the address, and zoom :).

I agree on the Sawyer and her speech to the Lois and Clark. I really liked that actress, and I hope we see her more as time goes by.

Frankly, I was expecting it to happen. Clex was kinda wonky in S4 as well.


Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Great review Ryan, although I dont think Clark and Lex are friends now, they are just civil to each other. Also I didnt believe that Lex was truly full blown evil yet since he still tries to protect Clark. And this ep was no exception. To me Lex is evil when he deliberately hurts Clark.

He did pull the friend card so many times this episode when he didn't have to. I thought that was nice, and with Clark......hmm I know I left my stake around here somewhere lol. Lex took a lot of crap from Clark this episode. I just wished Clark would just plainly not accuse Lex so quickly instead of acting like a third grader as if someone stole his pencil.

tonytr87
11-03-2005, 11:38 PM
I wonder if the writers are having Clark act like that so as to show us why Lex will begin to resent Clark, or if they actually believe his behavior is noble and good. If it's the latter they are incredibly naive. That's one thing I've never liked about Superman, is he's almost too much of a boy scout to the point of getting on your nerves.

Spoon AZ
11-03-2005, 11:41 PM
this episode was much better than it had any right to be.

I really dug it. Good stuff.

Now bring on the big guns! SPLINTER AND SOLITUDE!

kryptonitte
11-03-2005, 11:43 PM
I have to say it it must be because I too watched the Dukes of Hazzard and enjoyed it. So the whole reunited part I enjoyed and I was afraid it would be too much but I really think the lines and the car scenes were done really well and wasn't too much. At least for me.. I really enjoyed this episode and even though it may be a filler it was way better than Thirst. Like Vyperman I enjoyed the Chloe/Lois teamwork..I even think it showed Lois being a bit more aware than Chloe when she knew the expensive shoes being worn...possibly the better reporter showing through..more observent..The only part that still gets me is the Lex/Clark...once again Lex came out looking the btter in the fact that Jonathon was wrong to accuse him..I know this is to show how Lex's even though he is trying to be better is effected by how everyone see's him anyway...seems to be getting a bit played out now...I know the point is even a super hereo has his faults..but I liked that they seemed to be moving more toward him being evil and the back and forth though at first i loved is getting a bit like..." okay we get it...he could have been good but..now it is like let's just make him crack once and for all..Without Lionel we need that evil aspect as well...and the Brianiac/Professor was starting to build up which I liked but this episode was back to see Lex isn't all that bad...he just needs someone to believe in him and love him...but we all know he will be evil...so let's get on with it.

Summers
11-03-2005, 11:44 PM
The two out of three episodes we do not have any spoilers for. Many of us are going in blind this time :lol:. Me being one of them lol.

MsSullivan
11-03-2005, 11:44 PM
Okay 2nd worst episode of the season for me, the first being Aqua.

Chloe totally rocked! most of the scenes I enjoyed were the ones with Chloe in them. Actually, all the scenes I enjoyed had Chloe in them. Loved the opening scene with Chloe answering the phone, then sounding annoyed when Melissa called. Loved her "thinking on her feet" when she suggested Lois was the strippper. So cute with her angel wings. Oh and I loved all four of her outfits! so pretty! so Lois! so TH!Lois! Great investigating and I'm glad she got her first by line, even though it is on page 73.

Clark was hot!

Lex was okay, i liked Aqua/Thirst Lex better.

The Chlark was adorable. When they first saw each other in the club, so cute. They should have worked on the case together from the begining but I liked that in the end they ended up working as a team. Chloe and Clark at the DP reminded me of LnC, with Clark looking over her shoulder and both of them wearing professional looking clothes. Sawyer calling them Nancy Drew and Hardy boy was awesome and so Chloisy! I'm loving the Chlark this season, they are finally seeing that Chlark works! Now give me more!

Lois was okay. i liked her Chloe/Lois scenes at the DP with her calling Chloe a hot shot reporter again. Trying to get in the club was cute, but mostly due to Chloe. Lois' make up was horrible, she freaked me out I thought the halloween episode was last week.

The Jk/Jennings & JK/Jennings/Clark scenes...BORING! i could have done without them. Brought down the episode for me.

No Lana, always a plus!

No Martha...why? I Love AOT!

What's with JK driving like a maniac? Yes its DoH-ish but I do remember him getting on Lex's ass for driving like a maniac.

Scorpio31
11-03-2005, 11:46 PM
To Lois & Clark fan: Okay first things first, how in the hell did Lois do all the dirty work? Please if you know the answer please do tell. All she did was strip. (If you can call it that in the first place) How in the world do ED & TW have chemistry? I would like to know were you see this, and what you call chemistry?

Spoon AZ
11-03-2005, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Summers
The two out of three episodes we do not have any spoilers for. Many of us are going in blind this time :lol:. Me being one of them lol.

I've been going in blind all season. It's been great.

I like that there's mystery this season. finally there trying to surprise us

Daphne
11-03-2005, 11:48 PM
I liked it. I didn't loooove it, but I did like it.

Summers
11-03-2005, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Spoon AZ
I've been going in blind all season. It's been great.

I like that there's mystery this season. finally there trying to surprise us

Hmm..I don't know. Some episodes are quite predictable without the spoilers lol. We really didn't get a lot of them even when we have spoilers now lol.

I'm still wondering if they changed Lex's age because he legally can't run for state Senator lol.

Spoon AZ
11-03-2005, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Hmm..I don't know. Some episodes are quite predictable without the spoilers lol. We really didn't get a lot of them even when we have spoilers now lol.

I'm still wondering if they changed Lex's age because he legally can't run for state Senator lol.

true. i can't really gage i guess.

it seems more surprising not knowing anything except what the trailers say

BeepBeep
11-04-2005, 12:01 AM
Mediocre for me. It definitely had some entertaining moments, but the actions of the characters left a sour taste in my mouth. Random thoughts:

-Clark, please shut your mouth. Stop barging in and accusing Lex of crimes when you have absolutely no proof. Additionally, Lex not only took the brunt of your baseless accusation without throwing you out of his mansion, but he greatly aided you by giving you access to the club, only asking that you not cause any trouble in return, and you can't even say thank you? It just reinforces the perception that you are a complete and utter asshat.

-On that same note, thank you Lex for telling Clark off for repeatedly moving the boundaries of their friendship to suit what he needs.

-I still see absolutely no inkling that Smallville!Lois will become Comics!Lois. She was in the Holy Land of journalism, the Daily Planet, and yet she could not muster any enthusiasm whatsoever. I did not see her "investigating" as anything more than her trailing behind Chloe and making bad jokes. Speaking of Lois why is she incapable of saying "thank you" immediately after Clark just saved her from kidnapping, rape and possible death, instead delivering a rude comment, as always. It is not a sign of maturity, inner strength, snarky or any other positive attribute, it is just being a *bleep*.

-I don't usually find Lois that funny, but I laughed out loud at her threatening to reveal that Clark has an Elmer Fudd nightlight if he told anybody about her stripping. That is a good, snarky comment instead of her usual rudeness.

-I liked Chloe for the most part in the episode, although I thought it was irresponsible to involve Lois in a potentially life-threatening case. I also think AM and ED have some great chemistry. Then again, AM seems to have great chemistry with everybody.

-I miss Martha.

-As somebody mentioned, it is completely OOC if Johnathan runs for Senate considering how he has gone about keeping his family out of the public spotlight to protect Clark's secret.

-I still get an icky siblings vibe during Clois scenes, which makes me feel all "squicky" considering they will somebody be married.

vyperman7
11-04-2005, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Great review Ryan, although I dont think Clark and Lex are friends now, they are just civil to each other. Also I didnt believe that Lex was truly full blown evil yet since he still tries to protect Clark. And this ep was no exception. To me Lex is evil when he deliberately hurts Clark.

Thanks Parker. Glad that you liked it. I really enjoyed the episode. I hear what you are saying. Until Lex is totally evil, they have to have them keep up the civility. It is just frustrating and makes both Clark and Lex seem dense for still hanging around each other.

LolaDane
11-04-2005, 12:10 AM
The episode was not as great as I hoped it would be, but it had its good points. The Chlo-Lo interaction was great as usual. The cousins work well together and they looked amazingly hot when they were dressed up to get into that club. :D I think the cousins should get their own spin-off show. Who needs the teen of steel and his drama queen anyways? :p

And as usual, even though the writers make Lois take a back seat to Lana and Chloe on the show hierarchy and stick her in the episodes that are pure filler, ED still manages to shine. I love the fun factor that she brings to the show, and her chemistry with AM and TW is just great to watch. But oh how I wish the writers would give her more substantial material to work with! *pouts*


I think "Alias" might need Lois more than SV right now, with Sydney being preggers and all. Going undercover, wearing outrageous disguises, and kicking bad guy butt...Lois does it all! :lol:

Last but not least, I loved the Duke Boys reunion! It made me very nostalgic. I've been humming the Dukes of Hazzard theme song all night. :lol:

Lois Sullivan
11-04-2005, 12:56 AM
Okay, age requirements for Senate. Lex isn't running for the U.S. Senate. He's running for the state senate. If he was running for the U.S. Senate he would have to be 30. However, since he's running for state legisture (A whole different venue than the senate.) I believe the qualifications vary from state to state. Having a role as a State Senator, does not give you a bench on the U.S. Senate, it gives you a bench on the state level. Hence why there's a State Senator, and a US. Senator. Two different jobs, and qualifications.

Randy G.
11-04-2005, 01:05 AM
I thought it was a good episode. Maybe not at the top of my list, but not at the bottom either. :)

chlarklove
11-04-2005, 01:23 AM
Ok, just so people don't think I stole someone's review, this is mine I posted at TWoP.

Interesting how the 2 episodes I dislike this season are "Lois" centered eps. Weird. :p

So yeah, this ep was very "meh" and I kinda thought it was boring. It would've worked better had they had the Jennings/Kent plot more intertwined with the other plot. Even though they were connected, it still felt disjointed as if we were watching 2 different shows.

- Chloe rocks my socks. She's absolutely gorgeous. That hasn't been said enough I'm afraid.

- The Chloevage is a dangerous thing, she needs to be careful. :p

- The Chlark is the best part of the show. Seriously. So cute. I need more. Now.

- Loved the Chloisy vibe they had when Clark and Chloe were at the DP together... in suits!!11... researching while Clark looked over her shoulder. Like others have said, SO VERY VERY LnC-ish. Chloe is SO Lois Lane. And I LOVE it. *squee*

- LOVED Chloe's line to the cowgirl stripper "Howdy." I was literally rolling from laughter. AM's delivery was priceless there.

- How awesome was it that Chloe got her first byline? That kicked ass. Oh and on top of that, she used her wits and intelligence to manage to get the guy deported. She's LOIS LANE!!!11 Sorry.

- Clark is teh sex in that suit. Especially with his collar opened and the tie loosened. Yum.

- "I'll have a Coke. Straight up on the rocks." :rotfl:

- Clark is so totally horrified by seeing "Lois" strip. It's reminiscent of a brother seeing his sister naked. Heh. I keep thinking he's gonna go "MY EYES MY EYES!!" like Phoebe did in Friends when she saw Monica and Chandler start to have sex through the window.

- No Lana? YAYS!!111

- No Martha? BOO!!111

- I don't care what anyone says. "Lois" is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Ok, when you knock your attacker/kidnapper out/down... you don't go back for more. YOU GET YOUR ASS OUTTA THERE. And because of her stupidity and cockyness, she got her ass stun gunned. Serves her right.

The thing that can be said is that "Lois" is not Lois... she's a Nois. And her relationship with Clark was further solidified as very sibling like.

PTB? I beg of you... NO MORE "LOIS" CENTERED EPS!!!11 They suck. And blow. And not in a good way. :p

batfinx
11-04-2005, 03:11 AM
I liked it. No FOTW, no kryptonite experiment of any kind and Clark didn't cry about having super powers. Nice nod with the helicopter rescue. Lois and Chloe are always a great match. The girls have good timing and rapport. This episode had a much more grown up feel to it than the teen antics last week. Maggie Sawyer really good. Great scene when she's with Clark and Lois. Don't know where people get the brother-sister vibe stuff with them, but I guess it's a Chlark or Clana wish list thing. It's why I like reading the rating thread. The shippers hop out wanting to claim victory or blame defeat on the various ships :lol: No lie, check out the thread tomorrow. If the ep does poorly, Lana-Clana fans will say it's because there was no Lana-Clana. Lois-Clois fans will say it's because the competition was all new this week instead of the reruns last week. If the ep does good, Lois-Clois fans will say Lois-Clois brings in the ratings, Clana fans will say it's because of the Duke boy reunion :lol: :lol: :lol: Anyhoo I liked it. Cool trailer too.

whiteflag
11-04-2005, 03:12 AM
No offence intended but... Yes, please, no more Lois centered eps. Chloe is the REAL Lois Lane, and she belongs in Smallville.

Clark in that suit... sexiest thing ever!

xrayvision
11-04-2005, 03:24 AM
I thought this episode had too much Lois. I wanted to see a whole lot more scenes with Senator Jennings. I also wanted to see Clark doing some investigative work with Chloe at the DP. It was mainly Chloe doing all of that with Clark tagging along. There were too many Lois-centric episodes in S4, which was one of the main reasons I didn't like that season. I hope they don't do this again. They should focus on Clark-Lex-Fine-Chloe-Lana (basically how Lana fits in all this) this season. This episode should have capitalized on Tom Wopat since I doubt he will appear too many more times.

SuperClarkMode
11-04-2005, 03:25 AM
Some of us actually like the Lois stories, and it's not like they do it all that often, you know. Can't you all spare us Clois lovers an episode once in a while? We'll pay you back with a few Clana, and Chlark eppys, promise.

Tyler Wallace
11-04-2005, 03:52 AM
Where was Lana and Martha? I liked the episode alot. I think they could have done more with Bo and Luke, maybe had them investigate then have a police chase. That would have been sweet. And where was the Dixie horn?!?!?!?!?!

I give the episode a 8 out of 10

SuperClarkMode
11-04-2005, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by Tyler Wallace
Where was Lana and Martha? I liked the episode alot. I think they could have done more with Bo and Luke, maybe had them investigate then have a police chase. That would have been sweet. And where was the Dixie horn?!?!?!?!?!

I give the episode a 8 out of 10

I am glad they took a vacation. I love Lana and Martha. However, there is only 40 minutes an episode, better not to cram too much in, that would only dilute the quality of the present stories.

vyperman7
11-04-2005, 03:57 AM
I just watched this episode again, and one of the funniest lines came from the announcer in the club after Lois finished her set. "I'd salue that anytime" :lol: Hilarious!! My favorite line from the episode is still Lex making reference to Jack as a "good ol' boy".

Tyler Wallace
11-04-2005, 03:59 AM
lol ya i forgot about that. I was like Good ol boy hahaha. I thought it was awesome. Anyone remember in season 1 when Johnathon was driving his truck, and The dukes of hazzard theme music came on the radio and he was singing it. They should have done that again. :p

Phoenix
11-04-2005, 04:06 AM
Not the greatest episode but still fun to watch. I give it a 7 out of 10.

SWJaggy
11-04-2005, 05:48 AM
Definately a fun episode. While I didn't get many of the "Dukes" references (since I never got into that show) my parents were really enjoying it.

Even though I am 100% Clana, I am starting to warm up to the idea of Clark and Lois.

The Superman 1 reference was really cool! When Lois was in the helecopter and instead of the cable coming undone Clark undid it and then used his super strength to keep the copter from going over board.

The Clark and Lois moments at that club were great. Very hilarious.

On a scale of 1-10 I'm giving it an 8.5

PETER WEST
11-04-2005, 05:55 AM
This is was great. I love the episode from The Begining to the end. Much better than Thirst.

diabla9
11-04-2005, 06:00 AM
i thought it was kind of weird that lois would just jump into a costume, without an argument. but i guess it wouldn't have been an episode if she hadn't. i have to say the ep was pretty entertaining though. someone said it before but damn, clark was so hot in that suit! and when the waitress asks him if he wants a drink, clark puts on his big smile, "i'll have a coke!........umm straight up, on the rocks!" that was too cute!:p i was hoping that professor fine would make an appearance last night, but i guess i'll hava to wait. '
i give this ep a 6/10. next week looks promising ;)

oh yeah, i almost forgot one of my favorite aspects of last night...no lana! :rotfl:

tw190
11-04-2005, 06:00 AM
I thought it was pretty good!

The Good:
-Jack Jennings!
-The helicopter scene was cool.
-The stripclub gig was funny.
-Lois and Clark were reeeeeeally funny.
-No Lana! OMG, this has to be a first! TPTB try to stick her in every episode.
-I liked the Clex action!
-"Aye, aye.... sailor" :rotfl:

The Bad:
-Err... where was Martha?
-Still no sighting of Shelby. :p

aqua
11-04-2005, 06:02 AM
Most boring episode of the season, one of my least favorite ever.

Lois, I'm sorry, was absolutely horrible. I hate to imagine her being the wife of Superman. Why is she always coming back to Smallville and now moving there? Why isn't she trying to find a way back into college instead of just working at a coffee shop? She's second wheel to Chloe basically. I'm not a fan of the Chlois theory, but Chloe is the one who is displaying the Lois Lane traits. So now I'm supposed to believe that Lois is who she is in the future because she copied her cousin? Yawn.

I loved the Dukes stuff, but that's really it. Sawyer was annoying, and the plot involving "Lois being sold into slavery.." well, I expected more other then her putting on a red dress and flying away.

Where was Martha? She definitely had a spot in this episode. She could had interaction with Jack and then talked with Jonathan about Jack. I just hope she gets her own storyline soon, because I'm getting mad about the show revolving around Chloe and Clark. I love them, but Lionel, Jonathan, Martha, and even Lana, who just needs a plotline that isn't ridiculous. All of the good stuff, IMO, is going to Chloe. Not that I don't enjoy it, I do, but I think they need to spread the wealth around.

This was the first time that I've ever flipped back through the channels during the episode. So probably worst of the series for me.

Jellie
11-04-2005, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by aqua
Most boring episode of the season, one of my least favorite ever.

Lois, I'm sorry, was absolutely horrible. I hate to imagine her being the wife of Superman. Why is she always coming back to Smallville and now moving there? Why isn't she trying to find a way back into college instead of just working at a coffee shop? She's second wheel to Chloe basically. I'm not a fan of the Chlois theory, but Chloe is the one who is displaying the Lois Lane traits. So now I'm supposed to believe that Lois is who she is in the future because she copied her cousin? Yawn.

I loved the Dukes stuff, but that's really it. Sawyer was annoying, and the plot involving "Lois being sold into slavery.." well, I expected more other then her putting on a red dress and flying away.

Where was Martha? She definitely had a spot in this episode. She could had interaction with Jack and then talked with Jonathan about Jack. I just hope she gets her own storyline soon, because I'm getting mad about the show revolving around Chloe and Clark. I love them, but Lionel, Jonathan, Martha, and even Lana, who just needs a plotline that isn't ridiculous. All of the good stuff, IMO, is going to Chloe. Not that I don't enjoy it, I do, but I think they need to spread the wealth around.

This was the first time that I've ever flipped back through the channels during the episode. So probably worst of the series for me.

I agree 100%

SmvilleTeacher
11-04-2005, 06:17 AM
The answer for Lex running for Senate is that they were running for Kansas State Senate not the US Senate and you only have to be 18 in Kansas and Lex is about 25 now. Hey, even Clark could run.;)

bembol
11-04-2005, 06:27 AM
Let's just say I like 2 minutes of this episode...!!! :p

It was pretty weak, somewhat dry. I definately enjoyed Thirst.

mbarlow
11-04-2005, 06:29 AM
I liked this episode a lot, but then again, I'm a Clois fan, and any hardcore Clois fan was eating up Lois's apology to Clark.

Space_Ninja_3000
11-04-2005, 06:35 AM
I give this episode a 4 out of 5 shuriken rating: really really good and would've been great but for minor issues.

What I liked:
1. Better dialogue/writing: in general IMHO all the character dialogue was the best so far this season. Tom's (Jennings) scenes were well written. The scene between John and Michael was the best, it was like something plucked from season 2 or 3. As people here have mentioned, the fact the writers took time to include dialogue mentioning Clark winning the football title and Chloe's Halloween costume was a good sign. I thought the Maggie Metropolis detective scenes with Chloe and Clark were also some great moments; hopefully her character will re-appear again. Michael's King David story with Clark--another great scene which reminded me of season 2 or 3. Please do more of this kind of writing. I also liked that it wasn't dumbed down--it was written as a smart adult-oriented drama with some action in it; this is a good formula for the show which I hope they maintain. Finally, the helicopter scene was a fine nod to the original Superman movie.
2. Class: I let me say I was really impressed by two things regarding the stripper element: first, it was filmed tastefully and was not a trashy exploitive device--I know they had to advertise it as such but I was really glad to see that in fact it was done with class. Second, I was even happier to see that it was incorporated into the show so seemlessly and effectively--it wasn't forced or arbitrary. Tom made a great guest appearance, and although the Duke references could have been more subtle, I thought Tom, John, and Welling had great scenes together that helped moved the story along.
3. Attention to details: this is so important to me. I really liked the fact that there was greater attention to detail here. Lois confronting Chloe in the beginning about why she would meet a caller in a seedy part of town and Chloe's motivation for doing so--great detail. Chloe explaining how she took pictures of all the cars' license plates outside the club--great detail and logical explanation for how they found the villain. Chloe and Lois spotting the strippers outside--a simple yet useful detail explaining how they got inside.

Only complaints: What this diplomat villain was doing with the girls wasn't explained very well. A simple line from him to Lois like, "you're going to make me a lot of money for me in Russia" or something similar would've provided sufficient explanation. Kent running for state senate? They need to have a really strong reason to justify the character to do something like this--as another poster noted it's way out of character.

Overall: I really really liked this episode. Very efficient, not a single wasted scene or dialogue line. Best writing so far this season, fine acting, a great action sequence at the end, and a number of story elements were carried forth (senate race, Lois moving into the Talon, Metropolis, and character development in general). Finally, as one poster noted, I'm so glad to see Clark and Lex's relationship back to being "oddly complicated."

Conclusion: Everyone involved in putting this episode together deserves big time Kudos. Especially the writer(s).

Liriel
11-04-2005, 06:49 AM
I just cannot get into the mutual antagonism an as indicator (or in-joke) for Clark and Lois. I don't like those relationships in general and I especially don't like it for Clark and Lois.

And I don't think they spark when they throw barbs. It's dull. I think TW is worse than ED at delivering them.

SnarkMasterJ
11-04-2005, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by aqua
Most boring episode of the season, one of my least favorite ever.

Lois, I'm sorry, was absolutely horrible. I hate to imagine her being the wife of Superman. Why is she always coming back to Smallville and now moving there? Why isn't she trying to find a way back into college instead of just working at a coffee shop? She's second wheel to Chloe basically. I'm not a fan of the Chlois theory, but Chloe is the one who is displaying the Lois Lane traits. So now I'm supposed to believe that Lois is who she is in the future because she copied her cousin? Yawn.

ITA. Though I do have some affinity for the Chlois theory myself.

The only thing that got me through was the Chlark. Tom looked sexy, Allison looked sexy...Tom and Allison looked sexy together. That was about it.

Lois is a waste of space and opening credit time.

BELLAT
11-04-2005, 07:07 AM
Only complaints: What this diplomat villain was doing with the girls wasn't explained very well. A simple line from him to Lois like, "you're going to make me a lot of money for me in Russia" or something similar would've provided sufficient explanation.
I watched it again this morning, and when Clark and Chloe were at the Planet, she said he was selling the girls back to Russia, sort of like buying your own sex slave...which is scarily enough actually done

Kris-El
11-04-2005, 07:21 AM
i was kind of....bored? I dont know, Lois in a skimpy outfit no longer shocks and awes and keeps attention.

it was the first time ever i havent been glued to the TV while watching SV. also, lois is gross.

Netmaster
11-04-2005, 07:44 AM
I liked the Lois, Clark, and Chloe interaction. It was great.

I think the episode story and concept outright sucked along with the WBs typical fall sweeps skin diplay. Kristin couldn't play Lana because she is busy finishing the filming of her new movie, so this time it was Lois that was put on display. How stupid. It just goes to show how Al and Miles could really care less about an icon like the Lois character.

Just about anything goes (that censors allow), as long as it can bring in ratings, it's alright in their book. It doesn't matter if it's degrading to the character or not, as long as people tune in.

Every year that fall sweeps start, Smallville just gets worse and worse. They push the envelope more and more every year. It get's to a point where it's been pushed too far. That point was about two seasons ago, IMO.:(

johnny fogg
11-04-2005, 07:50 AM
I loved this episode! I thought it was exciting! Lois was cute in her little stripper outfit and we even got some lesbian innuendo from Chloe! The first shot inside the club: boob jiggle! I don't know why people have to complain about such a great show, why can't you sit back and enjoy it? Gah!! Guuuuhdijjsdhusijdsfoiasdjiodfjsdkof!!!!


Sorry, I had tumor in my brain. Now that's it's been removed, I can tell you this is one of the most exploitive episodes in the show's history, saved only by that ever-present buoy in the Smallville ocean that is: Lex scenes and good special effects.

And Tom Wopat is an ass monkey. He pales to John Schneider. SIMPLY DOESN'T ACT!!

SolShine7
11-04-2005, 07:50 AM
When I checked this website last week and I saw that Lois was going to be playing a stripper in that sleezy outfit, I knew that wasn't going to watch. Now's that two bad episodes in a row that I refused to watch. A pity.

Netmaster
11-04-2005, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by SolShine7
When I checked this website last week and I saw that Lois was going to be playing a stripper in that sleezy outfit, I knew that wasn't going to watch. Now's that two bad episodes in a row that I refused to watch. A pity.

Yep, I watched it last night.

Trust me, you didn't miss a thing.

The Clark, Lois, and Chloe interaction was good, but you can get that from a number of other episodes.

You only missed the typical WB fall sweeps smutfest.

The great Clark and Lois Talon scene at the end is the only thing that kept it from being a total loss. That's the only reason why I'm glad I watched it, otherwise I'd wish I would have passed on it as well.

I find it kinda sad that they don't care more about an iconic character like Lois Lane. Out of all the Smallville episodes that have aired, I dislike this one the most for that reason. I'll never watch this one again.

When I get the DVD set (if I decide to get it) this will be an episode that I will always skip over.

Chihiro
11-04-2005, 08:20 AM
This was a pretty good episode. Although I haven't seen the Dukes of Hazzard series, there was great interaction between Johnathan Schneider and Tom Wopat. It was immediately believable that they had been friends for 25 years. The play off against each other very well.

It's great to see Chloe finally getting her byline in The Daily Planet, and how the writers didn't get overboard with this by making it a banner headline. It was her first story and it got printed on Page 73.

The Lois strip club scene was tasefully done. They obviously didn't make/show her strip all the way down to her birthday suit since SV airs on primetime TV. Erica Durance did a good job with the little salute, hinting at her army brat upbrining, as well as showing how uncertain (and a bit uncomfortable) she was on that stage. She warmed up pretty quickly though. :lol:

Nice touch with boy scout Clark and the order of Coke.

I wasn't surprised Lex Luthor didn't have a hand in the murder, since planting a picture of his competitor with a stripper in the papers really isn't his style. He's more cunning than that. Hehe. I was, however, surprised that his briefcase with the VIP card just happened to be next to him when Clark wanted to check out the strip club. Time constraint?

Also, seeing as how Lois kicked the diplomat's son's a** when she suspected foul play, I'm surprised they didn't tie her up before taking her to "Gropa-cobana."

Lois Lane rocks in this episode, and the Clois direction is going really well, IMO. Although Clark said in the beginning of the show that he'd do anything to get rid of her, the day she left the Kents' he actually looked disappointed. "But you just moved back in!" He probably would've said more, but Lois' snarky comment about him and Lana made him revert back to the snipping Clark role he usually plays (and enjoys, I suspect) when he's with Lois. Hehe.

I DO see the chemistry between Clark and Lois in SV. Kinda hard to ignore. ;) Lois uses biting remarks as a defense mechanism, and yeah, coz she was brought up tough and bratty. Heh. Much to my (and Clois fans') amusement, Clark is getting better each episode at delivering his retort to Lois' snark. I suspect Lois' attitude arouses an instict of self-preservation in Clark. He knows, just knows, that at this point in their lives, if he gives in, Lois will just walk all over him. Hehehe. Hang in there, buddy. Though I think it'll be a long time before Clark and Lois get together as a couple, it's obvious that when they do, they'll never get a moment's peace (especially Clark), but it'll sure be one heck of a ride! The stuff of legends. ;)

PETER WEST
11-04-2005, 08:20 AM
The good.
(1) Lois Lane
(2) Clark Kent in Metropolis , in a nice suit & not in flannel.
(3) The Daily Planet
(4) Lois & Clark Undercover (Lois as a stripper, Clark undercover.)
(5) Lois kicking this diplomat villain ass
(6) NO Lana Lang (I hope this happens more often.)
(7)Chloe, Lois & Clark
\8/More Lois & Clark Forshadowing
(9)Bo & Luke Duke
(10)The Car (The Charger)
(11)Maggie Sawyer
(12)Lex Luthor (forshadowing : President Lex Luthor)
(13)Clark saves Lois The helicopter scene rocked.
--------------------
The Bad

No Martha Kent

No Lionel Luthor

And the trailer for next week's episode is awesome. (sadly lana retruns DAMNIT)

BeldarofRemulak
11-04-2005, 08:24 AM
Loved it! I thought both AM & ED did great jobs!

lilo
11-04-2005, 08:31 AM
Total throw-away episode. It had really no point except for maybe setting up the whole senator thing with JK and patching things up with Clark and Lex for the time-being. The whole stripper storyline was stupid.

Summers
11-04-2005, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by PETER WEST

And the trailer for next week's episode is awesome. (sadly lana retruns DAMNIT)

:lol: I know the feeling lol.

sdcheesehead
11-04-2005, 08:58 AM
I really enjoyed this episode. It was much better than some other episodes and I beleive the calm before the storm...the next two episode look like their going to be awesome.

I'm starting to see how Lois is being incorporated into the story, and eventually being a reporter. I think Chloe's a good reporter, but if she thinks she going to move upstairs, she needs to step up to the challange. I saw how Lois, even though "forced" into the situation, carried though with her stripping deput, and how she didn't step down from the challenge of kicking butt with that foriegn guy. I throughly loved the helicopter scene, but I thought, for a brief moment, that Clark was going to have to "fly" to rescue Lois. I did catch, at the end, Lois called Clark "Clark" and not "Smallville" too, and the "Elmer Fudd" nightlight was priceless.

I'm also confused about the Clark-Lex relationship, but looking at next week's episode, maybe the line will finally be drawn.

I loved the DoH references, they were subtle, but it looks like TW & JS had fun putting this episode together. It'll be interesting seeing JK running for Senator...hopefully nobody digs too deep into the Kent's history (and a certain false adoption), could get interesting.

I would've liked to see Martha somewhere in the storyline, she brings alot of stability to the story, and maybe she could've kept the "Good 'Ol Boys" in check.

Overall, a thought it was a very fun episode:)

Summers
11-04-2005, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by vyperman7
I just watched this episode again, and one of the funniest lines came from the announcer in the club after Lois finished her set. "I'd salue that anytime" :lol: Hilarious!! My favorite line from the episode is still Lex making reference to Jack as a "good ol' boy".

I know was cracking up :lol:. Plus the blue charger jump was total Dukes' car angle.

Fish1941
11-04-2005, 09:18 AM
“Exposure” wasn’t a bad episode, but it could have been a lot better. In fact, I thought that the last two episodes were a lot better. It was nice to see Tom Wopat and series regular, John Schneider, together again. But I could have done without the heavy-handed DUKES OF HAZZARD references – especially the blue car, which happened to be the same model as the General Lee. Fortunately, both actors had the chance to make up for all that nonsense with two well-acted scenes between their characters.

The episode’s villain was . . . lame. That’s all I can say. He was a real disappointment. And I never understood what he was doing. Was it white slavery?

Despite many of the episode’s disappointments, the interaction between Clark and Lois (Tom Welling and Erica Durrance) almost made up for it. It’s a shame that Clark isn’t in love with Lois at this point, because the two actors have great chemistry.

PETER WEST
11-04-2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Summers
:lol: I know the feeling lol.

I hope she seen less and less, because without her the shows better.

RunNakeDnECU
11-04-2005, 09:27 AM
I havent really liked the last 3 eps. just something about them, I really want to like them I just havent been able to. The last one I really liked was mortal :(


Originally posted by Fish1941

The episode’s villain was . . . lame. That’s all I can say. He was a real disappointment. And I never understood what he was doing. Was it white slavery?

Sex Slave, people abduct people and sell them into slavery as sex slaves. Thats what some people where thinking happened to that girl in Aruba last yr.

annieb
11-04-2005, 10:10 AM
I really enjoyed this episode a lot. Lois and Clark were very funny together. Chloe and Clark have such a great relationship as friends and I love Chloes relationship with Lois. Lex was great and it is interesting how they show him different from week to week & you never know what is going on with him. He is so conflicted and he goes from bad to innocent back to bad so you never know what's going on. Plus I love his speaking up to both Jonathan and Clark. I love the Lois and Clark chemistry. It is so much fun and they really do have such a different vibe than all of Clarks other interactions that is just so refreshing. I see their story moving along. Just a really fun, enjoyable episode.

I really enjoyed this episode a lot. Lois and Clark were very funny together. Chloe and Clark have such a great relationship as friends and I love Chloes relationship with Lois. Lex was great and it is interesting how they show him different from week to week & you never know what is going on with him. He is so conflicted and he goes from bad to innocent back to bad so you never know what's going on. Plus I love his speaking up to both Jonathan and Clark. I love the Lois and Clark chemistry. It is so much fun and they really do have such a different vibe than all of Clarks other interactions that is just so refreshing. I see their story moving along. Just a really fun, enjoyable episode.

No-El
11-04-2005, 10:34 AM
For me, to sum up my enjoyment----one word:

EVERYTHING!!

ClarkCrusader
11-04-2005, 10:36 AM
I love Lex's inner struggle we see with each episode. I believe he genuinely wants to do good and not be like his father, but the dark side keeps calling. The Lois and Clark chemistry is great because they have a fun friendship that could obviously become more later on. I like Clana, but I didn't miss her at all. The episode had a lot of hype with the stripping and all, and it was a great awkward scene between L&C, but it didn't quite live up to what I expected. Loved the DoH references (because I was a fan as a child), but man...JS looks so much younger than T.Wopat!
Well, that is my 2cents and I agree with annieb that this was a fun, enjoyable episode!! :D
Can't wait till next week though.....looks like we will see some deep acting from TW!!!!!

johnny fogg
11-04-2005, 10:37 AM
Erica Durance is a fabulous Lois. That's undisbuted.

And the poledancing scene was not as bad as I expected (I expected her to relish every second and automatically be good at it)

The boob-in-face-shto was gratuitous but who cares.

Metropolis=always awesome. We should go here more often. And Sawyer is back! With her hair blown straight! Whoo!

THE REAL PROBLEM IS LACK OF A GOOD PLOT.

I didn't really care about the Russian/German/Whatever diplomat dude and his sex-slave plot. I was more interested in the senatorial race with Lex and Wopat, but Wopat was bland and wooden.

I also object to the silly relationship with Lex and Clark. This push and pull thing might work on another series, but the Lex/Clark dynamic should be more definitive.

tigertim
11-04-2005, 10:48 AM
I liked the episode "Exposed". It was a nice tribute to the classic late 1970's Early 1980's series. To me there was nothing wrong with Tom Wopat's character. Keep up the good work.

johnny fogg
11-04-2005, 10:52 AM
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest problem this show faces is bad dialog. Honestly, the IDEAs are sound, and the ACTING is sound, so all the episodes should be perfect right?

I loved Durance's fakey smile trying to get into the Wingate club. She is awesome at comedy and that is much of this episode was about.

It's like one GOOD writer writes all the Clois banter and another BAD writer does all the other stuff.

RedKalEL
11-04-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Im surprised nobody has brought up the parallels to Superman 1 with the helicopter. It sure reminded me of that scene.

Fist thing that popped into my mind when i saw the helicopter


Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Im surprised nobody has brought up the parallels to Superman 1 with the helicopter. It sure reminded me of that scene.

Fist thing that popped into my mind when i saw the helicopter

mild_mannered
11-04-2005, 01:30 PM
I like the Dukes of Hazzard stuff. I also liked Clark in the strip club (lol) And yet another Super Jump. He needs to just learn to fly already.

jazner
11-04-2005, 01:38 PM
I really enjoyed this episode, a lot. It was one of those eps that wasn't meant to be OVERLY serious. It was just a nice ep, loaded with a lot of comedy and good actor chemestry. The "Dukes Connection" was great, from Wopat and Schnider back together, to especially THE CAR, which rocked. If you were ever a fan of The Dukes of hazzard, you enoyed this ep.

Then, I always enjoy the scenes with Clark and Lois. TW and ED just look and work great together. You really couldn't ask for more out of two actors, when it comes to these roles, than those two actors give you. They're perfect on screen together in every way. So any ep where they get to spend that much time together is priceless to me.

Again, this was just one of those "fun eps" to watch. I really liked it.

Blurby
11-04-2005, 02:06 PM
I loved this ep, although I think they should've made the story-line a little more smooth. It seemed to leave a lot unsaid about the whole crazy diplomat - he just popped in and out of nowhere.

ED, TW and AM were great. Those three are awesome together, regardless of the circumstances. And I thought the club would be a lot trashier, but they seemed to play it out quite well. I still want to see Lois do some more investigative journalism, perhaps of her own volition next time, rather than being dragged into it by Chloe.

The Wopat scenes were okay, probably because I'm not a huge DoH fan, but I liked Jonathon's reactions and dialogue in those parts. I hope Senator Kent doesn't come to fruition though.

Best scene was definately the helicopter. The tribute to Supes I here was way better than the DoH references. I also like the idea of the more frequent shifts into the city. I hope the characters get to investigate some non-FoTW crimes. I find these a lot more interesting.

And although I accept the fact that many people haven't warmed up to Lois, I just do not understand how they can enjoy Thirst more. Other than the Braniac scenes, that whole ep was campy garbage. Exposed did a lot more for me. And woo, a Clana break. I don't mind it in small doses, but I think over the last few eps, I've been inundated by it.

Snarky
11-04-2005, 02:06 PM
*contented, blissful sigh*
This was a fantastic episode! It reminded me why I love this show. The hero theme running throughout, the deeper nuances rising to the surface and outstanding acting throughout the entire epsiode.
The good:
Superman references--helicopter rescue, Lois' red boots
Lex still working our sympathy well
No Lana--I did not miss her at all.
Duke boys ride again
Clark and Lois banter
Clark appreciating his father

The bad:
No Martha
Clark relying too heavily on Chloe's brain and not his own.
Lois dances about as well as Clark--a match made in heaven. :lol:

A solid A for this episode as far as I'm concerned. Outstanding writing and acting. :D

clark25
11-04-2005, 02:19 PM
This episode was great it was the real
dukes backtogether again.And to I enjoyed the DOFH references as well
and when lex called Jennings a Good ole
boy I liked to have cracked up.And to I
could tell that JS was happy to be working
with Tom Wopat again.And the stripclub
scene was perty funny it kind of reminded me of a episode of Lois&Clark
in a way I think Erica Durance has give
Teri Hatcher a run for her money as
Lois Lane.Anywho great episode this
was the real Dukes reuion and to
that car I think JS had a little bit too
much fun with it anyway this made
this dukes of hazzard fan's night
hats of to miles millar and Alferd Gough
for making this happen I hope that
Mr.Wopat comes back as Jennings
some day

aqua
11-04-2005, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by PETER WEST
I hope she seen less and less, because without her the shows better.

You're saying Aqua was good? That and Exposed were garbage. Now that I think of it, they do have Lois in common..

norman619
11-04-2005, 04:17 PM
He's 45 duh!!! :D


Originally posted by Eryeal
Age does not vary from state to state. You have to be 30 years old to be a Senator per the Constitution.

How old is Lex?

Somebody Stop Me
11-04-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Space_Ninja_3000

What I liked:
1. Better dialogue/writing: in general IMHO all the character dialogue was the best so far this season. Tom's (Jennings) scenes were well written. The scene between John and Michael was the best, it was like something plucked from season 2 or 3. As people here have mentioned, the fact the writers took time to include dialogue mentioning Clark winning the football title and Chloe's Halloween costume was a good sign.

You have got to be kidding? You thought that the dialogue was good? Bahhahahahha!!! That was some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard on Smallville and it actually made me uncomfortable.

Maybe you should watch it again and also go back and watch Hidden which was one of the best episodes possibly of the series.

Don't ge me wrong I still liked it. Who wouldn't? Lois in that skimpy outfit and all those other hot girls. But the acting and dialogue were pretty bad.

ryb
11-04-2005, 06:35 PM
Interesting episode.

I'm a big fan of one-story episodes in any TV series, but these are hard to come by these days (except in procedurals such as CSI or Law & Order, which are problematic for other reasons...but I digress). They're even harder to come by in ensemble-dominated series such as Smallville, so when Exposed transpired, it was refreshing to see a generally tightly compact one-story episode.

Not that Exposed was particularly smooth or flowing (It had the usual choppiness that comes from episodes written by Souders and Peterson), but you can't knock Exposed for not being focused. I really liked how the episode came together. How the separate characters' involvement began to coincide about halfway into the ep...I thought that was well done.

The now (in)famous Lois Lane stripping scene was cleverly presented in that it seemed amateurishly awkward...not a surprising thing when you think about Lois Lane's stripping/dancing experience pre-Exposed. I also thought the uncomfortable tension between Welling and Durance in this scene was hysterically effective. This scene was much better than I had hoped, and I give props to Welling's and Durance's acting skills on this one.

I also liked the investigative nature of this episode, quite realistic and well paced, I thought. The Daily Planet scenes were subtly potent in that it provided an environment that added to the journalistic(ally) investigative nature of the third 15 minutes of the show. As usual, Mack was particularly effective in this respect, giving a mixture of human curiosity, journalistic naivete, and Chloe innocence. Mack is just so good on this show.

I think the real gem of a moment in this episode, though, was a look on a certain superhero-to-be's face. When the words "diplomatic immunity" were heard, Welling's face had a most convincing look of dread/disappointment. You can feel the growing sense of realization this kid has. Good stuff.

I'm really liking the Lex/Clark dynamic this year. Complex and never predictable. I can never quite figure out how each scene is going to go; I really like the suspenseful nature the writers have given this pair this year. And, as usual, Rosenbaum gives a convincingly ominous performance -- with both good and bad elements echoing throughout.

I also liked Wopat's role in this episode. Just enough to be noticed, but only adding to the episode rather than overshadowing the whole episode's purpose. Although the references to the "good ol' boys" were numerous and notable, they weren't overdone and certainly didn't detract from the episode's intentions. This was also well done.

Overall, Exposed dealt with some gritty, gruesome, realistic material -- but with a nice combination of dark and light fare. The episode was never overly serious or overly comedic...just the right combination for the material. I have rarely had the sense that Smallville takes itself too seriously, and I really like this quality. Many TV series took themselves too seriously (The last season of the X-Files and the last three of The West Wing come quickly to mind), and that, to me, borders on the pretentious. Smallville has never seemed that way to me.

Finally, one comment on the dialogue, since that seems to be a particular target from many this week. I agree that the dialogue is the Souders and Peterson shortcoming, but I don't think referencing Hidden as a comparison is a good idea (also, btw, written by Souders and Peterson). Hidden's dialogue was also a shortcoming. One thing I think Souders and Peterson do exceptionally well is telling a story (The outstanding episode Blank and the riveting Hidden from earlier this year are two examples). Maybe if they can write as well as DeKnight...this will be the pair to anticipate when it comes to watching Smallville episodes.

And a second "finally", rarely do previews in any entertainment medium excite me, but Smallville's preview for Splinter was fantastically ominous. Can't wait for next Thursday.

Exposed: A-

Kryptonianian Warrior
11-04-2005, 06:55 PM
That was a great review and nicely thought out. You have named everything but I would give it a B+.

Crispin Glover
11-04-2005, 07:49 PM
The is the third best episode this season 1. Arrival 2. Hidden 3. Exposed. I really liked this episode a lot. I was so glad that Lana wasn't in the episode, a first, as well as Martha. I thought the pacing of the episode was great. The Lois/Clark interaction was heavily based in what the future holds for the two. The special effects and nod to the Superman movie with the helicopter scene at the end was awesome. I've never seen a Dukes of Hazard episode and while I could tell what most of the punes were I thought they were casual and really tied into the episode well. 5 out of 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

constancelight
11-04-2005, 07:54 PM
Yes excellent review ryb.

One of the reasons I enjoy Smallville is because it doesn't take itself too seriously.

And I have to say I did enjoy the dialogue in this episode. Well at least the banter between Clark, Chloe, Lois.

xrayvision
11-04-2005, 09:09 PM
My problem with this show for the last 2 seasons is it's attempt at being funny. They have tried much more, but mostly haven't been doing that good of a job. And more importantly, I don't think it should be funny. I liked the occasional funny moments they had in the old seasons (like Clark & JK with the scarecrow in Heat). S3 was just incredible. Overall, it was no-nonsense (along with S1 & S2), and that's what gave us great episodes like Shattered, Asylum, Exile, Phoenix, Memoria, Talisman, Truth, Delete, Whisper, Extinct, Hereafter, Obsession, Crisis, Legacy, Perry, Forsaken, and a few more.

I just don't like the idea of Lois in Smallville; just too farfetched. She always complains about the farmer types, so why is she there? Chloe is in Metropolis, so if she wants to visit her cousin, why not stay there? Lex has a reason to be there since that's where Luthorcorp (in this realm) is. His interest in Clark and the green k has always made the show interesting. I just don't buy the reason of having a Lois in this show. Chloe's relation with Clark has always helped the stories and never held him back from progressing. Lana has been badly used in the past, but this season they could do much better things with her. See my post:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1584206#post1584206

IMO, Lois just doesn't fit in at this point (it's too early). I thought she did have some good moments in the series (Aqua, ending scene in this episode & some in S4), but I just cringe when I compare the pre-Lois seasons to S4 & S5 (especially how S5 started out so damn strong). I think viewers would rather see how the boy becomes a man, how Clana ends, how Lex becomes so evil, what happens to the Chloe & Lionel characters, and how the Kents and Pete fit in. They had some good stuff with Lex & Chloe, but haven't done anything with that. In S3, we saw scenes with Chloe's deal with Lionel in most of the episodes, and it was very entertaining to watch. No smut needed (as seen with this & Thirst).

Pete would be great for the "Lex for senator" arc. I'd love to see some good tension b/w him & the Kents (who he considers as family) as the campaign unfolds.

One of the biggest mysteries that we have yet to understand is where the hell does unpossessed Lionel stand? Is he good or evil? In Onyx, he said he was awake. In Forever, he shot Jason to protect Clark, and in Commencement he threatened to expose Lana as the killer of GT. Why not bring him back in a good arc and involve Chloe in this arc. Whether Lionel is good or evil, I'm sure they have unfinished business.

As far as this episode goes, the highlight (helicopter scene) was way too short. I think even the one in Nocturne was longer. The same thing bothered me with that Halloween party scene last week (great costumes & environment but too short). Both TW's were underused. They need him to use xray-vision again.

GatorTex
11-04-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
They need him to use xray-vision again.

It's pretty obvious to me the effects team on SV are limited in their budget with what they can use. They had to put all their eggs in one basket with that helicopter scene because of the extended storyline with Lois (not that I'm complaining). Maybe if the show keeps doing well in the ratings, a larger budget will be in store for possibly season 6 and hopefully 7!

For a change from the canon of Supes, I really enjoy having Lois in Smallville.

lana&Clark4ever
11-05-2005, 12:04 AM
i love lois....




GETTIN' TASERED PART!!!:lol: sorry just had to let that out....

spideyfan
11-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Lois was great..so Was Chloe
Pa KEnt was good and all the Wopat / Dukes references were great for those that got them.
CK copter scene was sweet.
Lois was hot too.
I dont like the 'shady' Lex they keep going back too though, hes had previous seasons to be in the gray area..he should be bad by now.

In all a fun episode that has a huge impact on why CK and Lois become investigative reporters.

8/10

ingy271
11-06-2005, 12:39 AM
Exposed bored the crap out of me - nothing more I can say.

norman619
11-06-2005, 10:15 AM
Yeah I have to agree. Plus to me it didn't feel like a whole episode.

loistickyfingerz
11-06-2005, 11:52 AM
I liked this episode and it was better than I thought it might be.

The Lois strip dance was funny and she wasn't perfect, and I liked that. This show needs a sense of humour and so far Lois has been the best choice to embed that.

I liked the Senate stuff and I feel overall this episode truly flowed, within itself and with the other shows.

It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it. Especially the Lex/jonathan scene and the Lois and Clark scenes toward the end. It was tasteful forshadowing I thought.

Slytherin Princess
11-06-2005, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by loistickyfingerz
The Lois strip dance was funny and she wasn't perfect, and I liked that. This show needs a sense of humour and so far Lois has been the best choice to embed that.

yep! we need a little humor on the show. and lois is the perfect candidate. :)

DGreen
11-06-2005, 05:46 PM
when i first watched this episode, i wasn't really sure what to think about it, my mind was a bit clouded. thats probably because i wait the entire week for a new ep and by the time it gets here, they could show clark,lana,chloe, and lois riding around on cows for the entire hour, and i'd still be on the edge of my seat. however, eventually the wonder of the new ep wears off and i'm left with what the episode really was: decent. it wasn't a complete waste of my hour, but i wasn't really captivated by it either. there was no real point to that senator other than to put the idea of running for office into jonathans head. the car scene with wopat and schneider wasn't nearly as exciting as i expected, and lois was a horrible stripper. the good things in this ep were the character interaction between clark/lois, chloe/lois. some ppl have said that lois doesn't really fit into his life right now, and maybe thats true, but i personally think that she brings out a different side of clark. much like the lois in LnC. she's constantly ragging on him, pushing his buttons, and he's starting to push hers back, i like that kind of interaction. of course who doesn't love a good helicopter rodeo ala superman 1, as well as clark ordering a coke straight up on the rocks and not knowing were to put the 20, hillarious scenes. so overall it was an okay episode, some good parts, but quite a few plot holes. i give it a 3 out of 5. there was definitely a lot of room for improvement, but it was an entertaining ep. "aye aye sailor"

thehenry89
11-06-2005, 05:51 PM
A++++++++++++++++ after i watched that episode last week i felt like the teacher from a christmas story *i shall simply die if i have to watch one more stupid episode with lois* finally they put erica in an episode that's good (besides season premires and finallys)

Kryptomaniac
11-07-2005, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by norman619
Yeah I have to agree. Plus to me it didn't feel like a whole episode.

I felt that way, too. How many commercials and PSAs were shoved into this episode for crying out loud???

It was a good episode which could have been GREAT! The plot and characters weren't that bad so I blame it on this director, who I just have never cared for (he seems to be into BOOBS, BOOBS and MORE BOOBS when he directs).

The King David scene was my favorite; and I really enjoyed the Jonathan scenes. I just wish there was ....MORE.:confused:

Mr.Bond
11-07-2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by xrayvision
My problem with this show for the last 2 seasons is it's attempt at being funny. They have tried much more, but mostly haven't been doing that good of a job. And more importantly, I don't think it should be funny. I liked the occasional funny moments they had in the old seasons (like Clark & JK with the scarecrow in Heat). S3 was just incredible. Overall, it was no-nonsense (along with S1 & S2), and that's what gave us great episodes like Shattered, Asylum, Exile, Phoenix, Memoria, Talisman, Truth, Delete, Whisper, Extinct, Hereafter, Obsession, Crisis, Legacy, Perry, Forsaken, and a few more.

I just don't like the idea of Lois in Smallville; just too farfetched. She always complains about the farmer types, so why is she there? Chloe is in Metropolis, so if she wants to visit her cousin, why not stay there? Lex has a reason to be there since that's where Luthorcorp (in this realm) is. His interest in Clark and the green k has always made the show interesting. I just don't buy the reason of having a Lois in this show. Chloe's relation with Clark has always helped the stories and never held him back from progressing. Lana has been badly used in the past, but this season they could do much better things with her. See my post:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1584206#post1584206

IMO, Lois just doesn't fit in at this point (it's too early). I thought she did have some good moments in the series (Aqua, ending scene in this episode & some in S4), but I just cringe when I compare the pre-Lois seasons to S4 & S5 (especially how S5 started out so damn strong). I think viewers would rather see how the boy becomes a man, how Clana ends, how Lex becomes so evil, what happens to the Chloe & Lionel characters, and how the Kents and Pete fit in. They had some good stuff with Lex & Chloe, but haven't done anything with that. In S3, we saw scenes with Chloe's deal with Lionel in most of the episodes, and it was very entertaining to watch. No smut needed (as seen with this & Thirst).

Pete would be great for the "Lex for senator" arc. I'd love to see some good tension b/w him & the Kents (who he considers as family) as the campaign unfolds.

One of the biggest mysteries that we have yet to understand is where the hell does unpossessed Lionel stand? Is he good or evil? In Onyx, he said he was awake. In Forever, he shot Jason to protect Clark, and in Commencement he threatened to expose Lana as the killer of GT. Why not bring him back in a good arc and involve Chloe in this arc. Whether Lionel is good or evil, I'm sure they have unfinished business.

As far as this episode goes, the highlight (helicopter scene) was way too short. I think even the one in Nocturne was longer. The same thing bothered me with that Halloween party scene last week (great costumes & environment but too short). Both TW's were underused. They need him to use xray-vision again.

Very well Put!! I totaly agree with every thing you said, this show has so many potential and sub plots that needs filling. Why not fill them in and make them part of the character growth.

I just wish the writers would look at some of this thread and listen to the viewers.

In my opinion this episode just sucks, so many plot holes, and inconsistant scene. Just for example (Stripper calling daily planet instead of cops when she knows she's being hunted down, Lex friend or enemy? Jennings Clark kents hero?) so many holes and so many sub plot put in together to fill a big hole. I just never saw the point of this show other than a set up to force Pa Kent to run for office against Lex.

I say one of the worst episode this season (I find Thirst more entertaining)

Somebody Stop Me
11-07-2005, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Mr.Bond
Very well Put!! I totaly agree with every thing you said, this show has so many potential and sub plots that needs filling. Why not fill them in and make them part of the character growth.

I just wish the writers would look at some of this thread and listen to the viewers.

In my opinion this episode just sucks, so many plot holes, and inconsistant scene. Just for example (Stripper calling daily planet instead of cops when she knows she's being hunted down, Lex friend or enemy? Jennings Clark kents hero?) so many holes and so many sub plot put in together to fill a big hole. I just never saw the point of this show other than a set up to force Pa Kent to run for office against Lex.

I say one of the worst episode this season (I find Thirst more entertaining)

Totally agree!

smallvillerocks45
11-07-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Bittersweet
For a sweeps show that was pretty good. Definatly beats out Thrist.

This will probably sound like the dumbest question on the planet, but what is sweeps? I know it occurs during this time of the year, but I have never understood what it means. Can someone briefly explain it to me? Please and thank you :)

Mr.Bond
11-07-2005, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
This will probably sound like the dumbest question on the planet, but what is sweeps? I know it occurs during this time of the year, but I have never understood what it means. Can someone briefly explain it to me? Please and thank you :)

In the United States, the sweeps periods are used for measuring television audiences (based on Nielsen Ratings) and determining the advertising rates in the months of February, May, July, and November.

Also the link below tells you how sweep week works

http://www.slate.com/id/2095577

hometownfan
11-07-2005, 12:11 PM
I taped the show, because I had a prior engagement.... I rate the show as ... Boring.... I ended up fast forwarding several times in the episode cause I got bored with where it was going. This episode sucked! I have seen several episodes of little house on the prairie that kept me more in-tuned with a show. What a waste of airtime. Thirst sucked too, becase of a bad story line, but this episode was just plain boring!

smallvillerocks45
11-07-2005, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Mr.Bond
In the United States, the sweeps periods are used for measuring television audiences (based on Nielsen Ratings) and determining the advertising rates in the months of February, May, July, and November.

Also the link below tells you how sweep week works

http://www.slate.com/id/2095577

Thank you. I appreciate your help. :)

HornFan02
11-07-2005, 02:10 PM
worst episode of the season. virtually 0 progression in the storyline. the vampire episode was pretty bad but it still had progression in the story as far as Professor Fine vs Lex. This episode had nothing.

spideyfan
11-07-2005, 02:50 PM
Maybe you new bloods didnt catch any progression but think about it. Lois and Clark realizing and SEEING that people think they can do what they want (live above the law) probably has a HUGE impact as one of the reasons why they inevitably become reporters who seek out the truth and expose people who do that kind of stuff.

I agree progression was slow, but there was some.

Somebody Stop Me
11-07-2005, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by spideyfan

I agree progression was slow, but there was some.

Yes there was some.

Mr.Bond
11-07-2005, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by spideyfan
Maybe you new bloods didnt catch any progression but think about it. Lois and Clark realizing and SEEING that people think they can do what they want (live above the law) probably has a HUGE impact as one of the reasons why they inevitably become reporters who seek out the truth and expose people who do that kind of stuff.

I agree progression was slow, but there was some.


Ok sure there are some.. but it is small, so small that really you cannot possibliy consider it a good episode?

At least "Thirst" had a lot more Lex and Prof. Fine to be deemed entertaining.

Timester
11-07-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Mr.Bond
Ok sure there are some.. but it is small, so small that really you cannot possibliy consider it a good episode?

Matter of tastes, perhaps? I hate fish, for example. ;)

ryb
11-07-2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
My problem with this show for the last 2 seasons is it's attempt at being funny. They have tried much more, but mostly haven't been doing that good of a job. And more importantly, I don't think it should be funny. I liked the occasional funny moments they had in the old seasons (like Clark & JK with the scarecrow in Heat). S3 was just incredible. Overall, it was no-nonsense (along with S1 & S2), and that's what gave us great episodes like Shattered, Asylum, Exile, Phoenix, Memoria, Talisman, Truth, Delete, Whisper, Extinct, Hereafter, Obsession, Crisis, Legacy, Perry, Forsaken, and a few more.

I just don't like the idea of Lois in Smallville; just too farfetched. She always complains about the farmer types, so why is she there? Chloe is in Metropolis, so if she wants to visit her cousin, why not stay there? Lex has a reason to be there since that's where Luthorcorp (in this realm) is. His interest in Clark and the green k has always made the show interesting. I just don't buy the reason of having a Lois in this show. Chloe's relation with Clark has always helped the stories and never held him back from progressing. Lana has been badly used in the past, but this season they could do much better things with her. See my post:



IMO, Lois just doesn't fit in at this point (it's too early). I thought she did have some good moments in the series (Aqua, ending scene in this episode & some in S4), but I just cringe when I compare the pre-Lois seasons to S4 & S5 (especially how S5 started out so damn strong). I think viewers would rather see how the boy becomes a man, how Clana ends, how Lex becomes so evil, what happens to the Chloe & Lionel characters, and how the Kents and Pete fit in. They had some good stuff with Lex & Chloe, but haven't done anything with that. In S3, we saw scenes with Chloe's deal with Lionel in most of the episodes, and it was very entertaining to watch. No smut needed (as seen with this & Thirst).

Pete would be great for the "Lex for senator" arc. I'd love to see some good tension b/w him & the Kents (who he considers as family) as the campaign unfolds.

One of the biggest mysteries that we have yet to understand is where the hell does unpossessed Lionel stand? Is he good or evil? In Onyx, he said he was awake. In Forever, he shot Jason to protect Clark, and in Commencement he threatened to expose Lana as the killer of GT. Why not bring him back in a good arc and involve Chloe in this arc. Whether Lionel is good or evil, I'm sure they have unfinished business.

As far as this episode goes, the highlight (helicopter scene) was way too short. I think even the one in Nocturne was longer. The same thing bothered me with that Halloween party scene last week (great costumes & environment but too short). Both TW's were underused. They need him to use xray-vision again.

I like your thoughts here (and agree with several of them), and bear in mind that I have seen little of Season 3, so I'm kind of out of the loop on some of the examples you are pointing to here. What I do know is that Season 3 was the darkest season of the series and that Season 4 was kind of a "let's loosen things up a little" season. I don't think it's unfair to say that my likeness of Season 4 may be because I saw Season 4 before Season 3.

But anyway, back to your thoughts...

I think there's a difference between a show that doesn't take itself seriously versus a show being serious. A show can be serious and not take itself seriously (Many sci-fi thrillers fall in this category, such as Supernatural (excluding the pilot), The X-Files, the Star Trek series (for the most part), etc.), and I think Smallville has done that on many occasions (Many episodes are primarily dramatic, but they are also fun, energizing, and at times engrossing). The fun part, I believe, comes from a lack of melodrama. Smallville has had many opportunities to go the sappy way out (and sometimes, let's be fair, it has), but often it avoids this path and for good reason. It would totally conflict with the aura the Superman ethos has always had: action, adventure, sci-fi -- i.e., fun. Although elements of tragedy, melodrama, and poignancy are occasionally added to an episode, rarely does it overload a particular show.

The vast majority of Smallville episodes are serious but lack a pretentious seriousness. And that was one of the points I was trying to make in my review.

Now, should the show be serious 100% of the time? I give an emphatic "no", and here is why. For one, it adds versatility to the series. If each show were as serious as Crusade, Commencement, Arrival, Hidden, Memoria, etc., these shows would lack the impact they had. Secondly, the funnier "comedic" episodes enable acting versatility, which is highly necessary given the general "fun" attitude of the series and the rather monotonous charcterizations it would otherwise be composed of. Furthermore, it adds subtlety and complexity to these characters. Adding humor to these characters makes them more sympathizable...more realistic. And it adds poignancy to the dramatic moments.

I read a lot of TV show and movie forums, and I think one of the most prevalent problems with viewing audience expectations is that once they see something great, they expect greatness 100% of the time. And wouldn't it be nice if things were? But my theory behind criticizing TV/movies (which I do for a living) is that the bad is just as important as the good because it makes the good better. And more importantly, a TV show cannot have 100% great episodes all of the time...I've never, ever seen one. Some have come close, but not one has succeeded.

As for those who dislike an episode of Smallville because it lacks a certain amount of progression...all I can say is "tough bananas". If Smallville had as much progression as some of you demand, it would have been over in a year. I think the episodes that focus on a story rather than a storyline add a fundamental and subtle aspect to the series. They add character development and understanding. And I think Exposed was full of that. We learned that Clark, while still driven by personal motives, is gaining a bigger sense of universal duty (Look at his face during the "diplomatic immunity" line). We learned that Lois, while tough as nails on the outside, has a personal appreciation for Clark and his actions. We learned that Chloe will go to great lengths and personal peril to get a story (more so than I thought). We learned that Jonathan, while strictly private, has a public sense of duty (Some rub-off on Clark one day...?).

And this character development and understanding is important once the storyline does evolve...it will give reasoning behind the actions/steps they take. Without these important developments in character, I personally could care less how the story itself evolves. It would make the action monotonous and the story developments anticlimactic.

Anyway, just some thoughts of mine.

Slytherin Princess
11-07-2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by ryb
I think there's a difference between a show that doesn't take itself seriously versus a show being serious. A show can be serious and not take itself seriously (Many sci-fi thrillers fall in this category, such as Supernatural (excluding the pilot), The X-Files, the Star Trek series (for the most part), etc.), and I think Smallville has done that on many occasions (Many episodes are primarily dramatic, but they are also fun, energizing, and at times engrossing). The fun part, I believe, comes from a lack of melodrama. Smallville has had many opportunities to go the sappy way out (and sometimes, let's be fair, it has), but often it avoids this path and for good reason. It would totally conflict with the aura the Superman ethos has always had: action, adventure, sci-fi -- i.e., fun. Although elements of tragedy, melodrama, and poignancy are occasionally added to an episode, rarely does it overload a particular show.

The vast majority of Smallville episodes are serious but lack a pretentious seriousness. And that was one of the points I was trying to make in my review.

Now, should the show be serious 100% of the time? I give an emphatic "no", and here is why. For one, it adds versatility to the series. If each show were as serious as Crusade, Commencement, Arrival, Hidden, Memoria, etc., these shows would lack the impact they had. Secondly, the funnier "comedic" episodes enable acting versatility, which is highly necessary given the general "fun" attitude of the series and the rather monotonous charcterizations it would otherwise be composed of. Furthermore, it adds subtlety and complexity to these characters. Adding humor to these characters makes them more sympathizable...more realistic. And it adds poignancy to the dramatic moments.

I read a lot of TV show and movie forums, and I think one of the most prevalent problems with viewing audience expectations is that once they see something great, they expect greatness 100% of the time. And wouldn't it be nice if things were? But my theory behind criticizing TV/movies (which I do for a living) is that the bad is just as important as the good because it makes the good better. And more importantly, a TV show cannot have 100% great episodes all of the time...I've never, ever seen one. Some have come close, but not one has succeeded.

As for those who dislike an episode of Smallville because it lacks a certain amount of progression...all I can say is "tough bananas". If Smallville had as much progression as some of you demand, it would have been over in a year. I think the episodes that focus on a story rather than a storyline add a fundamental and subtle aspect to the series. They add character development and understanding. And I think Exposed was full of that. We learned that Clark, while still driven by personal motives, is gaining a bigger sense of universal duty (Look at his face during the "diplomatic immunity" line). We learned that Lois, while tough as nails on the outside, has a personal appreciation for Clark and his actions. We learned that Chloe will go to great lengths and personal peril to get a story (more so than I thought). We learned that Jonathan, while strictly private, has a public sense of duty (Some rub-off on Clark one day...?).

And this character development and understanding is important once the storyline does evolve...it will give reasoning behind the actions/steps they take. Without these important developments in character, I personally could care less how the story itself evolves. It would make the action monotonous and the story developments anticlimactic.

Anyway, just some thoughts of mine.

*applaudes* i like the way you think, ryb. u took the words right out of my mouth. but u said it better. :D

President_Luthor
11-07-2005, 08:28 PM
re: 'Exposed'

As usual, both Kents (Bo 'n the BDA) compete for the Most Sanctimonious title. It's good they were willing to ... eventually ... get off their pulpit and give Senator Jack (oh heck, he will ALWAYS be Luke Duke in my book ;) ), it would also be nice if they took some of their own advice.

Lex made Clark eat crow over his blind accusations with the whole King David analogy. Now, if Clark would only demonstrate similar understanding for his BEST FRIEND.

You know, I liked this episode. It just ended about 5 minutes ago, so while it's still fresh in my mind:

-It was Lois who noticed that the dead girl had high-priced shoes in the wrong part of town, which did spark the whole investigation. I'd call it a bit of an allusion to the attention-to-detail traits of the "future" Lois Lane. Loved the Clois banter, BTW.

-The ep. established that Metropolis is far seedier and more complicated than what they were used to in Smallville. Guilty people go free, the big city isn't all glass cathedrals of finance, and they'd better watch whose toes they step on. That detective was one tough cookie -- hope she'll stick around (somebody's gotta keep Hardy Boy and Nancy Drew out of trouble!)

- Real heroes are imperfect, and their struggle to overcome those flaws is what makes them heroic. If anything, the Kents still enjoy luxuriating on their Rockwellian pulpit, and it was sweet to see Lex toss their high-falutin' "morals" in their faces. Richly deserved, and hopefully, more such lessons to come.

-A strip club during sweeps week. LOIS! And Clark trying to be more adult as Lex's "business" associate (at least he didn't order chocolate milk!) . It also showed the seedier side of urban life and that in a city that big, it's very easy to become anonymous and 'just another statistic' if you don't watch your step.

-Chloe actually doing grunt work at the Planet ie news hotline, because that's what a cub reporter would start out with: phone/desk work, monitoring the police radio, etc. And an itty-bitty first byline :D. Even the best have to start somewhere.

-JK as a senate candidate? Mr. Kent, my first question is: Please explain your association with Lionel Luthor and your involvement in the sale of the Ross Creamed Corn Factory. Yeah, I'd like to hear him explain 'that' one to the Metropolis press! What better place than a senate campaign for the Kents' dirty laundry to come out (plus an opportunity for Lex to enlist Pete's help ... for the future?) *hums Hail to the Chief*

Jlvsclrk
11-07-2005, 08:59 PM
Wow ryb. That was a brilliant post. I agree that judging an episode on the basis of "progression" strikes me as a poor standard. Especially since Clark has no idea what he's supposed to be progressing towards. Right now, he equates Destiny with Jor-El's "Rule them well". Judge the episode on its own merits folks! Did it make you laugh / smile / gasp / feel / empathise / think?

As for this episode though, for me it just barely worked. Lois' dance was so terrible, it was hard to watch. Yes, it was in character for her to be nervous / not know what to do but I thought the crowd should have been a lot ruder about what they weren't seeing.

xrayvision
11-07-2005, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by ryb
I like your thoughts here (and agree with several of them), and bear in mind that I have seen little of Season 3, so I'm kind of out of the loop on some of the examples you are pointing to here. What I do know is that Season 3 was the darkest season of the series and that Season 4 was kind of a "let's loosen things up a little" season. I don't think it's unfair to say that my likeness of Season 4 may be because I saw Season 4 before Season 3.

But anyway, back to your thoughts...

I think there's a difference between a show that doesn't take itself seriously versus a show being serious. A show can be serious and not take itself seriously (Many sci-fi thrillers fall in this category, such as Supernatural (excluding the pilot), The X-Files, the Star Trek series (for the most part), etc.), and I think Smallville has done that on many occasions (Many episodes are primarily dramatic, but they are also fun, energizing, and at times engrossing). The fun part, I believe, comes from a lack of melodrama. Smallville has had many opportunities to go the sappy way out (and sometimes, let's be fair, it has), but often it avoids this path and for good reason. It would totally conflict with the aura the Superman ethos has always had: action, adventure, sci-fi -- i.e., fun. Although elements of tragedy, melodrama, and poignancy are occasionally added to an episode, rarely does it overload a particular show.

The vast majority of Smallville episodes are serious but lack a pretentious seriousness. And that was one of the points I was trying to make in my review.

Now, should the show be serious 100% of the time? I give an emphatic "no", and here is why. For one, it adds versatility to the series. If each show were as serious as Crusade, Commencement, Arrival, Hidden, Memoria, etc., these shows would lack the impact they had. Secondly, the funnier "comedic" episodes enable acting versatility, which is highly necessary given the general "fun" attitude of the series and the rather monotonous charcterizations it would otherwise be composed of. Furthermore, it adds subtlety and complexity to these characters. Adding humor to these characters makes them more sympathizable...more realistic. And it adds poignancy to the dramatic moments.

I read a lot of TV show and movie forums, and I think one of the most prevalent problems with viewing audience expectations is that once they see something great, they expect greatness 100% of the time. And wouldn't it be nice if things were? But my theory behind criticizing TV/movies (which I do for a living) is that the bad is just as important as the good because it makes the good better. And more importantly, a TV show cannot have 100% great episodes all of the time...I've never, ever seen one. Some have come close, but not one has succeeded.

As for those who dislike an episode of Smallville because it lacks a certain amount of progression...all I can say is "tough bananas". If Smallville had as much progression as some of you demand, it would have been over in a year. I think the episodes that focus on a story rather than a storyline add a fundamental and subtle aspect to the series. They add character development and understanding. And I think Exposed was full of that. We learned that Clark, while still driven by personal motives, is gaining a bigger sense of universal duty (Look at his face during the "diplomatic immunity" line). We learned that Lois, while tough as nails on the outside, has a personal appreciation for Clark and his actions. We learned that Chloe will go to great lengths and personal peril to get a story (more so than I thought). We learned that Jonathan, while strictly private, has a public sense of duty (Some rub-off on Clark one day...?).

And this character development and understanding is important once the storyline does evolve...it will give reasoning behind the actions/steps they take. Without these important developments in character, I personally could care less how the story itself evolves. It would make the action monotonous and the story developments anticlimactic.

Anyway, just some thoughts of mine.

Well, the thing is my point of view is coming from a view of the entire series. I'm not sure you saw seasons 1 & 2, but if you did, you may see that they were not as dark as season 3. They did a very good job progressing the plots/stories along with having some lighter moments.

Season 1 introduced us to all the characters and Clark got his 1st extra (non speed/strength/invulnerability) power--- x-ray vision. They did a good job on having him evolve with this power and use it in the situations he got into. They also had him evolve well as a character. He wanted to play football in Hothead, but saw how complicated normal things were for him and stopped playing. Season 4 had him regressing back to wanting to play, and it took too much time from the other more important plots. It took until the end of Recruit for him to arrive to the same point as he did at the end of Hothead.

This season had many great moments:

Roger Nixon & Tina Greer are introduced (X-Ray). We see him pop up several times throughout the season and it's done in a very interesting way where he introduces Lex to various people (like a crop dusting pilot who saw Clark's ship) & info he encounters. Clark also sacrifices a date with Lana to save Chloe (Cool). We get our 1st peek into Lex's future & Clark is very Superman-like and starts saving total strangers (Hourglass). We are introduced to Dr. Hamilton (Craving)--a very interesting character who examines meteors, the ship key, and does experiments for Lex. We also get the 1st mention of Level 3 (Jitters), where we find out more of the darkness that surrounds Lionel. A non-freak corrupt cop witnesses Clark using his powers and wants to exploit him (Rogue). Clark relinquishes Lana due to Whitney's sick father, shows his good ideals (Shimmer). Clark & Lana have a fallout after he refuses to change his mind about Kyle Tippet. A great story about 2 guys with the same power, one good another evil. Foreshadowing of Clark-Lex in the future (Hug). Clark loses his powers to Eric and sees what happens when a human has those powers (Leech). Chloe gets badly injured, Clark blames himself; we see how much he cares about her & even wants to help out Whitney, the obstacle to Lana (Kinetic). We see bad sides of Jonathan, Lana & Pete (Nicodemus). We meet Ryan, a young telepathic boy who is in great danger with his foster parents in a great suspenseful episode (Stray). The season's end included great moments with Roger Nixon closing in on the Kents, Lana getting telepathically linked with Chloe's kidnapper which makes a great episode (Obscura), some great Chloe-Clark moments, and that tornado that rips through Smallville. They did have those light fillers (like Drone, Crush, etc) but even those had some good story progression and were entertaining.

Season 2 was even better. It started out wih the tornado aftermath (Vortex). Then, was a great episode with Lex getting married to a criminal who was brainwashing him, where Clark got his heat vision (Heat). This had some good funny moments, but was also good enough to be serious as well. Then we had a great episode with Pete finding out Clark's secret along with the return of Dr. Hamilton (Duplicity). This was what started Lionel's interest in everything. We also saw Clark on red-k for the first time in what was a superb episode (Red). We also saw the events around Clark's adoption (Lineage). Ryan returned only to be dying with nothing for Clark to do to save him (Ryan). We also got to see another fallout between Clark and Lana-Chloe (Dichotic) and saw the caves for the first time & heard about the Naman legend (Skinwalker). Tina Greer returned and revelations about the ship helping Clark were shown (Visage). We saw Lex trying to get back at Lionel with huge repercussions after a hostage situation ensues in a very thrilling episode that truly showed how obsessed Lionel was with Clark (Insurgence). We got another peek at Lionel's evilness when he destroys the character of the sheriff (Suspect) and another shot of Clark on red-k and a mysterious alien parasite in the cave that turns Chloe and Pete into danger-seeking rebels (Rush). This was when we also got our 1st appearance of Dr. Walden (another interesting character). We met Lex's younger half brother Lucas and got to experience what was in his mind after meeting his estranged father (Prodigal). We also got to see Clark & Martha get infected with green-k spores while Chloe revealed how much Clark meant to her (Fever). Then we saw an incredible episode with Clark finally learning about what happened to his home planet and what his & his birthparents' names really are along with getting the ability to read the kryptonian language (Rosetta). Right after that, Clark doubts that he's the only one left from krypton after he meets a kid who believes he's an alien (Visitor). We also see Clark in a situation where he saves Lana but winds up paying for it along with how much Helen means to Lex (Precipice). We also got to see Clark battling kids with the same strength as his where his family was put into a dangerous situation and where Clark had a major fallout with Chloe (Witness). At the end, we found out Lionel was cloning humans (Accelerate), and in a great 2-parter saw Dr. Walden awaken and find out Clark is an alien only to try to kill him and to have Clark have his 1st contact with Jor-El (Calling). Clark finally had to deal with Jor-El's orders for him and hence destroyed the ship while Lex got married to Helen which had huge repercussions. This was all in 1 great season.

I wanted to point out the amount of bigtime twists that happened in S1 & S2 by listing them above so I can compare them to S4 below.

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My problem with season 4 was that it was too light. If obtaining the stones was such an important task, they should have focused on that much more. They shoved it down our throats and never really explained anything about them. Clark found one in Crusade, and then didn't do anything with them for another 4 episodes. After Transference, the next time we saw them was in Spell, and then in Sacred, and then we started to see them a little more often. They had too many light episodes that could have been replaced with episodes where the stones would have switched hands or where explorations were done without success (or possibly with clues being found). I think the occasional filler is good, but S4 had too many. Here they are:

Facade
Devoted (not bad, but should have been replaced with something much better)
Run (was a cool filler, but introduced Impulse/Kid Flash, which was a major accomplishment--good episode)
Bound
Unsafe
Pariah (was a good episode despite being a filler)
Recruit (total waste- same end result as Hothead)
Krypto
Lucy
Ageless
Forever (good filler with stones at the end; great Luthor scenes)

Out of these, there were 8 fillers that just had main stories that were unrelated to what Clark would normally be doing.

The thing for me is, I take the high standards set by seasons 1-3 and compared them to 4. S4 just didn't do it for me as a whole. This is my opinion, but is shared by many others. S5 started out much better, but has gotten slightly bland. I hope it picks up again. I don't mind Lois-centric episodes as long as they don't do it like they did in S4 (too excessive). Exposed wasn't that bad, but they should have done more with Jennings.

Wow, that was long.

Nimkong
02-27-2010, 10:36 PM
It was bad but good at some parts.Liked lois striping part and the dukes of hazzard.But the plot was weak as sh**

SGuthrie27
08-22-2010, 04:36 PM
3 out of 10 Elmer Fudd nightlights -- I'm rating it slightly higher than I did initially because it did have good character development for Jonathan and some Chloe/Lois interaction, but still... not really a high-ranking episode. First vampires on Smallville and now strippers... Can you see why Season 5 is not my fave? :p

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
10-27-2010, 03:00 AM
Lois stripping and Dukes of Hazard...somehow I voted 7?

malft
10-27-2010, 08:30 AM
Not a favorite episode, but now a few seasons later and it still is in my head. That makes it better than average.

Supsfan
01-22-2012, 03:14 AM
I'm a big fan of one-story episodes in any TV series, but these are hard to come by these days (except in procedurals such as CSI or Law & Order, which are problematic for other reasons...but I digress). They're even harder to come by in ensemble-dominated series such as Smallville, so when Exposed transpired, it was refreshing to see a generally tightly compact one-story episode.

I am just going through some old posts and I think this expresses my feelings perfectly. When rewatching episodes it's nice to have one shot stories that don't really tie to a bigger picture sometimes. I generally prefer episodes I don't have to watch Clark be a bi-polar depressed basketcase which to many around this period of time seemed to be(which is usually linked to bigger plots). One thing that works for me in Exposed(and one shot stories in general) is I love when an episode ends on a nice note, which I thought that Lois and Clark scene did.


They also had him evolve well as a character. He wanted to play football in Hothead, but saw how complicated normal things were for him and stopped playing. Season 4 had him regressing back to wanting to play, and it took too much time from the other more important plots. It took until the end of Recruit for him to arrive to the same point as he did at the end of Hothead.

I see this common complaint made about the Season 4 football arc but Clark quit football at the end of Hothead because Lana quit cheerleading so he had no reason to play, coupled with the fact his coach went all FOTW on him? That really doesn't show much evolving like the Season 4 arc did. Hothead basically was as much a "filler" as you put down Exposed for in your comments. On a sidenote about Hothead much like I loved the final scene of Exposed the Lana/Clark on the football field screaming wins my best Clana scene to end an episode award since it was nice and simple and ended on a good note.

On a completely different sidenote I am always amazed how little fanfare this episode gets for Chloe being a journalist. I know there is alot of Chloe is a journalist fans out there who love anything about her character that relates to being a journalist, but this was actually one of the only episodes of the series that goes through the whole process of her getting a lead, investigating the story and publishing an article(her first at the DP to boot) but that fact seems to get lost in everything else about the episode. I could be wrong but I don't think there was any other episode on the series that went to such lengths to show the whole process of her getting the article(besides maybe Fierce) and actually being a journalist(most the time she was just doing searches for Clark, and a couple times she got an article out of a couple pieces of info she found for Clark but we don't actually see her go out and investigate like we did in Exposed). I know if I was a fan of Chloe's journalism storyline I would hold this episode in high regard because watching her get a lead and hunt down a story is exactly what I would want to watch.