Clarks speed is off in this episode [Archive] - KSiteTV Television & Movie Forums

neo_nate

10-27-2005, 11:16 PM

In this episode Clark runs from Smallville to Metropolis in like 5 seconds after Chloe tells him whats going on with Lana at MET U. In the episode Truth Pete tells Chole "well when Clark goes supersonic he can make the round trip in 10 minutes" or something simular to that.

Anyone else notice this, let me guess, everyone is going to tell me that his speed has increased after learning stuff at the FOS.

GatorTex

10-27-2005, 11:26 PM

sstray72

10-27-2005, 11:26 PM

Yeah, I don't remember Clark ever being that fast. It seemed off, but I thought it was a funny moment, so I didn't dislike it.

AnimeJoe

10-27-2005, 11:29 PM

Two words: Kryptonian Steroids.

neo_nate

10-27-2005, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by AnimeJoe
Two words: Kryptonian Steroids.

Im not even going to say anything about that :\

Premature Combustion

10-27-2005, 11:33 PM

Do we know for a fact that he was in Smallville? If Lana and Chloe are in Metropolis maybe he was closer than you think.

chloeandpete

10-27-2005, 11:37 PM

dont forget, he cant pay for the hotdogs and stand in line at superspeed. maybe it took ten min for him to do that, and only a second to travel there. (just a guess.)

lzpoof

10-27-2005, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Premature Combustion
Do we know for a fact that he was in Smallville? If Lana and Chloe are in Metropolis maybe he was closer than you think.

superstalker

vyperman7

10-27-2005, 11:39 PM

Clark gets stronger and faster as he gets older.

lzpoof

10-27-2005, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by vyperman7
Clark gets stronger and faster as he gets older.

He's still a stalker

vyperman7

10-27-2005, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by lzpoof
He's still a stalker

Magnetic already established that :p

neo_nate

10-27-2005, 11:53 PM

Well, I remember someone on the show saying that smallville is like a 3 hour drive. I don't care how fast you are, 3 hours to 5 seconds just seems tooooo fast for him.

mallory

10-28-2005, 12:13 AM

When and if he gets around to racing around the earth to reverse time, like he did in the 1st movie, he will cover that distance in a whole lot less time than 5 seconds.

3 hour drive would be around 200 miles. To cover that in 5 seconds means he is going 144,000 mph. In Supes I he was probably flying around the speed of light: around 5000 times faster than that!

SuperVan

10-28-2005, 12:19 AM

Maybe he was in hiding in her closet?

MuchaLana

10-28-2005, 12:19 AM

Simple Explanation ;) Clark Flew! ;)

xrayvision

10-28-2005, 12:25 AM

In Extinct, he ran from Smallville to Metropolis as Van McNulty started to fire at Lex and got there in time to catch the bullet.

His speed has to be very fast to do these. In Resurrection he had to run fast enough to dispose of a kryptonite bomb while it was in the explosion process and in Jinx he had to break Chloe free & stop Mikhail in the middle of a football play. So they have been somewhat consistent.

pcruz5

10-28-2005, 01:28 AM

2 words Kryptonian Magic........lol

SVfan26

10-28-2005, 01:42 AM

It was a bit inconsistent... it should have taken a little longer than a couple of short words out of Chloe's mouth for Clark to get from his barn in Smallville to her MetU dorm room.

And if he could get there that fast, and he was so concerned about Lana, why didn't he just run to Chloe's dorm room in the first place? Would save him [and her] alot on their cell phone bills.

Question; When Clark is on his cell, and running super-fast... is he roaming? Those roaming charges'll kill ya faster than a canyon full of green K, Clark!

boogalou86

10-28-2005, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by Premature Combustion
Do we know for a fact that he was in Smallville? If Lana and Chloe are in Metropolis maybe he was closer than you think.

When he was on the phone with Chloe he was at home (I believe the kitchen was in the background.)

NotTodayPete

10-28-2005, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by MuchaLana
Simple Explanation ;) Clark Flew! ;)

I say he got there by superjump!

Lobby4Chloe

10-28-2005, 04:49 AM

Oh, come on. He can't just run fast to stop bullets all the time. Sometimes a guy just has to run fast for comic value and to see the look on Chloe's face!

lexs&os

10-28-2005, 06:59 AM

Sure it was off, but I liked that scene too. I rewatched a few times and the Chlark interaction during that scene was fun to see.

blastcaps

10-28-2005, 07:07 AM

Like the previous poster said in Jinx he haulled a** and rescued Chloe in between the blink of an eye. So he has to be able to travel 100,000+ MPH.

sunshine1973

10-28-2005, 07:11 AM

hahaha I love the one who said he flew!!! Its that simple...........

gameface25

10-28-2005, 07:22 AM

Am I wrong? But I think it showed him in his loft when he and Chloe were talking, so yea he was in Smallville. I noticed this right when it happened as well, but it made for a funny moment.

FlashFan

10-28-2005, 07:23 AM

I thought the speed was about right, his powers are still increasing, and are probably "ramping up" by this point.

Besides, the writers need him to have this speed since Chloe and Lana are at Met U and he isn't. it's the only way for him to get there "in the nick of time" to save the day.

jaime,oburg

10-28-2005, 07:27 AM

My thoughts too neo nate but I let it slide with the idea Clark has started a new Kryptonian work out after all the Tom is getting a little out of shape threads.

Not that I ever saw anything wrong with my Tommy!:p

kal-el03

10-28-2005, 07:43 AM

he gets stronger and faster as he grows, + im not sure but once jor-el gave him back hes powers i think he's stronger. Check the part when he comes back from the FOS for the missile, as he super-speeds , when he stops to look at the missile, the wrinckles that form when he super-speeds blow off him. I've never seen that in any other episode.

blue freak

10-28-2005, 08:56 AM

kitchen back at kent farm.
timing was off.
nothing to explain it. no way is he that fast.

Nerial

10-28-2005, 09:08 AM

He's Superman to-be. The only person faster is Flash. I can see inconsistency on the show, but I believe he can be that fast.

Besides, it was hilarious. I buy it. :D

The Source

10-28-2005, 09:48 AM

Maybe he was already running when Chloe mentioned something...

xrayvision

10-28-2005, 09:53 AM

Watch Extinction. They actually show his trip from Smallville to Metropolis while the gun is being fired. If he can do that, there's no question he can run fast enough to cut off Chloe in the midst of a sentence. That trip they showed in Extinction was basically the same trip he always makes when he runs to Metropolis.

Basest Rue

10-28-2005, 10:03 AM

Not only extinction, but in Crisis, he hears the gun fire over the phone, but gets to Lana before the bullet reaches her.

I think he's been really fast since season 3.

xrayvision

10-28-2005, 10:17 AM

Yeah, there's a huge difference between Hug (when he couldn't stop Kyle from getting hit by that bullet) and Season 3. I think his speed increased in season 2 (in Ryan, he ran very fast to catch up with the doctor before his flight left).

All about Clark

10-28-2005, 10:40 AM

Yah, it was off, 5 minutes to 5 seconds. Makes it look like he flew. Other examples, like Crisis don't work because he could have been 2 blocks away, whereas we know how far Met U is from inside his home. He is getting faster, but you can see 5 minutes reduced to 1 minute, but not to 5 seconds.

Basest Rue

10-28-2005, 10:50 AM

[i]Other examples, like Crisis don't work because he could have been 2 blocks away, whereas we know how far Met U is from inside his home. [/B]

I think the warehouse in Crisis was on the edge of town, and the school is in the middle of town, so it's probably a mile or so, in less than a fraction of a fraction of a second. Pretty fast.

GhostRider

10-28-2005, 10:50 AM

As has been said Clark gets faster, more invincible, and stronger over time. Eventually he'll become as fast as the Flash.

neo_nate

10-28-2005, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by xrayvision
Watch Extinction. They actually show his trip from Smallville to Metropolis while the gun is being fired. If he can do that, there's no question he can run fast enough to cut off Chloe in the midst of a sentence. That trip they showed in Extinction was basically the same trip he always makes when he runs to Metropolis.

well when you actually got to see the scene of him running from Smallville to Metropolis to save lex, that trip takes at least 10 seconds or so, mabey more.

DARKRAGE

10-28-2005, 10:59 AM

that was a really cool funny moment the dude is getting stronger

phoephoe

10-28-2005, 11:04 AM

I think the scene was cool and I didn't even question the speed it took for him to get there. He is getting faster, we've seen him move. He was concerned over his girlfriend. There was a lot at stake.

The look on his face when Chloe was like, Heart attack... and he just kinda half grinned.

becomingagod

10-28-2005, 11:29 AM

wow 40 posts about clarks speed in a very pointless, (if not funny) scene.....and only one word for love.

we are superanalyizing this show a bit much.......

xrayvision

10-28-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by neo_nate
well when you actually got to see the scene of him running from Smallville to Metropolis to save lex, that trip takes at least 10 seconds or so, mabey more.

You're right (just watched it again). But I think he is supposed to be faster. Superman can't run at the speed of light (like the fastest Flash--Barry Allen), but can come pretty close. So for Clark to eventually be as fast as he will, he will need to be getting faster every day. The speed of light IIRC is 300000000 m/s. Now Metropolis is said to be about 3 hrs from Smallville, giving an approximate distance of 150 miles (241402 meters).

So Clark could have been travelling like 1/1000th the speed of light (don't know if he was travelling at top speed). Sounds reasonable for him.

mild_mannered

10-28-2005, 12:48 PM

It was a funny scene in a funny episode.

Since he is clearly a stalker he was probably just outside the dorm hiding in the bushes.

superspider02

10-28-2005, 01:15 PM

I too think he is getting faster and stronger in very episode and it was very funny scene when he speeded in on chloe.

Griffin

10-28-2005, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by neo_nate
In this episode Clark runs from Smallville to Metropolis in like 5 seconds after Chloe tells him whats going on with Lana at MET U. In the episode Truth Pete tells Chole "well when Clark goes supersonic he can make the round trip in 10 minutes" or something simular to that.

Anyone else notice this, let me guess, everyone is going to tell me that his speed has increased after learning stuff at the FOS.

Clark absorbs the light from our sun, the more he absorbs the more powerful he gets. In other words he has absorbed more sunlight since "Truth" and is therefore faster.

Hendo

10-28-2005, 01:56 PM

You think that's fast you should see how fast he is in the comics while flying. Someone did the math on how many times he can circle the world with the speed that he's currently capped out at.

PKII

10-28-2005, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by neo_nate
In this episode Clark runs from Smallville to Metropolis in like 5 seconds after Chloe tells him whats going on with Lana at MET U. In the episode Truth Pete tells Chole "well when Clark goes supersonic he can make the round trip in 10 minutes" or something simular to that.

Anyone else notice this, let me guess, everyone is going to tell me that his speed has increased after learning stuff at the FOS.

Jor El must have given him some tips on how to run faster. :)

Originally posted by neo_nate
Well, I remember someone on the show saying that smallville is like a 3 hour drive. I don't care how fast you are, 3 hours to 5 seconds just seems tooooo fast for him.

Maybe he did a super jump or he flew there. ;)

SuperClarkMode

10-28-2005, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by The Source
Maybe he was already running when Chloe mentioned something...

This is the most realistic way to think about it. Did they talk a bit on the phone, giving Clark time? It was all for the effect of Chloe's reaction, and papers flying around her dorm. So blame it on the script, not the rain.

rx7g3n3s1s

10-28-2005, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by neo_nate
In this episode Clark runs from Smallville to Metropolis in like 5 seconds after Chloe tells him whats going on with Lana at MET U. In the episode Truth Pete tells Chole "well when Clark goes supersonic he can make the round trip in 10 minutes" or something simular to that.

Anyone else notice this, let me guess, everyone is going to tell me that his speed has increased after learning stuff at the FOS.
pete said he could make a round trip including the time it takes to get the hot dogs in that one episode.

JWangSDC2

10-29-2005, 05:22 AM

and he got faster after that...anyone see Jinx? Running of the football field like that... 400 yards in .001 seconds?

75miles/second could def do it

superman79

10-29-2005, 06:32 AM

This is goofy, it's Superman. He can run so fast that he could circle the world with you barely noticing he was gone. A 3 hr trip in 5 secs is a cake walk for him. Now just imagine how fast the Flash really is.

Eklipse60

10-29-2005, 06:42 AM

Running at roughly 189 times the speed of sound......Which is about 5 times escape velocity.....He MUST have been flying. It is impossible he was running that fast because at that speed he has successfully negated the pull of gravity and would not be held to the curvature of the earth.

EDIT

Or the Editor Screwed up :D

Enialedam

10-29-2005, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Eklipse60
Running at roughly 189 times the speed of sound......Which is about 5 times escape velocity.....He MUST have been flying. It is impossible he was running that fast because at that speed he has successfully negated the pull of gravity and would not be held to the curvature of the earth.

EDIT

Or the Editor Screwed up :D

:lol: Oh, I really pity writers/editors sometimes!

No-El

10-29-2005, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
In Extinct, he ran from Smallville to Metropolis as Van McNulty started to fire at Lex and got there in time to catch the bullet.

His speed has to be very fast to do these. In Resurrection he had to run fast enough to dispose of a kryptonite bomb while it was in the explosion process and in Jinx he had to break Chloe free & stop Mikhail in the middle of a football play. So they have been somewhat consistent.

I loved those "super feats", especially in Jinx!

I thought about that football scene and it just blew my mind just trying to comprehend such speed----faster than the blink of the human eye or other fast things in nature!!

Can you be in a football game just as a linebacker is about to tackle you and then run off field down the hallway under the stands, save your girl, knock the bad guy cold, then zip back out to the field right back to your original position and fake your fall as you are tackled so as not to hurt the lineman???!!!??!?!?!?

And he took off his helmet as recall doing all that then putting it back on for the game with a winning touchdown!!!

I loved when Pa and Ma Kent realized and acknowledged what he did in the aftermath were so proud of him!!

Originally posted by Enialedam
:lol: Oh, I really pity writers/editors sometimes!

Too run that fast you must have some cushion of air between you and the surface---whether a millimeter to an inch---just like Bart/Barry Allen/Flash!!:cool:

But, the writers do not have degrees in "Biomolecular Physics"!

And don't think for a moment I do either!!!:D

Perksy

10-29-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Basest Rue
Not only extinction, but in Crisis, he hears the gun fire over the phone, but gets to Lana before the bullet reaches her.

I think he's been really fast since season 3.

This may be so but IMO, the Speed Effects in 'Run' were weak as....

They so got it wrong, when Clark first chased bart out of the apartment, they showed them super speeding past the cars with their special effects (bullet time for Clark and flames for bart), BUT the cars where still moving, if they wanted to make it even faster, then should've freeze framed the scene.
The same when they both ran past the people in the park just before Bart ran on water, the people were moving,.

Infact, I just watched the scenes again, they are even worse than when I started to type this. :mad: :mad:

Edit: I just watched it for a second time, The person driving the car would've seen something! Infact he probably would've had to do an emergency stop! The people in the park would've seen something, Clark and Bart were moving about the same speed I could kick a football (soccer ball)!! Gargh! The ruined the best scene ever! :mad:

rx7g3n3s1s

10-29-2005, 11:13 PM

speaking of bart running on water, why couldnt clark do so? was he just scared he couldnt or was he just dumb? i mean at the rate clark's moving, he'd be able to run across water just like bart is able to

son2380

10-31-2005, 04:03 PM

Everyone is putting to much thought into how fast clark is. I don't really read the superman comic books, but I know that Superman is like a Solar Battery. The more his body obsorbs the sun the stronger and the faster he becomes. So its not that Unbelievable that the guy can run to Metropolis in 5 seconds. I think in season four he couldn't run on water but in Aqua u see him running away from lex corp with Aqua-man on water. Clark is faster if he can walk on water.

Watching Smallville

10-31-2005, 04:05 PM

I think we're just enjoying the progression of his powers. I love the fact that he gets faster every year. And I hadn't thought about the running on water in Aqua -- another step forward. Good catch! :D

Griffin

11-01-2005, 03:25 PM

Currently in the comics Superman can reach 99% the speed of light. Just to give you an idea of how fast that is, the speed of light can travel around the earth 7 times in one second!

Bumperjeep

11-01-2005, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by GatorTex
Uh, no....he's working out after seeing Aquaman last week! ;)

Lol. I think that Clark's speed had to be off to make the scene funny, and it was well worth it

GatorTex

11-01-2005, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Bumperjeep
Lol. I think that Clark's speed had to be off to make the scene funny, and it was well worth it

True...it worked.

Superchik92

11-01-2005, 07:19 PM

I acutally thought that scene was kinda humerous. Chloe's reaction just made me laugh.

KryptoniteLacedPie

11-01-2005, 09:56 PM

I bet he could. It added to the moment, and it was humorous, so I'm not complaining.

Clark_J_Kent

11-02-2005, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by son2380
..... in Aqua u see him running away from lex corp with Aqua-man on water. Clark is faster if he can walk on water.

I must have missed this.

Are u talking about the end? I thought that was both of them underwater, speed swimming.

GreenRock

11-02-2005, 03:52 AM

On the one hand, one can question the time Pete gave, did he measure it himself? Did clark tell him? or did he just approximate? Isn't clark still discovering his powers? which probably means that his powers are still growing, and he is probably learning to max his powers gradually. Also, maybe he doesn't always use his max speed, so we could see vareying speeds at different times.

On the other hand, the speed thing, though usually done with very good special effects (with some exceptions), it's not always acurate. for example, can you imagine the effect on his clothing when he move at the speed he moves? I'm not talking about tear effect only, but also the shape of his clothes when moving that fast (never mind the effect on the hair.) Another example that comes to mind is in the episode where he causes a water tank to fall on an equivalently fast girl, while for someone that fast, the falling tank (or water) should have looked still in comparison to their speed, and she should have passed it by miles before it came anywhere near the ground.

Of course one might be able to cover some of these things with possible explanations, but at the end, actions that are super are just not easy to approximate in a tv series, and sometimes, the emphasis is on drama and story than on realistic simulations of fictional powers in a real world.

Overall, they are doing a damned good job. But there is always room for improvement.

son2380

11-05-2005, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Clark_J_Kent
I must have missed this.

Are u talking about the end? I thought that was both of them underwater, speed swimming.

I only saw it once but it looked like he was running on water to me.

Also remember a while back in Season 1 or 2 Lana's best friend that was cloned. I have to say clark is faster cause that little girl striaght dusted his A lol. I after getting whipped by a 7 yr old i would work on my speed too lol

superman05

11-06-2005, 04:44 AM

clark gets stronger as he grows oldert so his speed will also increase

Jlvsclrk

11-07-2005, 12:34 PM

For the record, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second (to 3 significant digits.) At the speed of light, you could circle the globe seven times each second. For Clark to travel 180 miles in 5 seconds means he's travelling at 1/5000 of his ultimate "landspeed" maximum - he's still got a long way to improve!

Note that the thing that slows him down is finding a route where he doesn't have to constantly dodge traffic and risk knocking things over in his vortex. As he makes more and more trips to Metropolis, he probably will find better and better routes.