Chloe is going to die

[audierules]

It's almost 100%. She will die before this show ends.

[bap290]

It's Possible, but I highly Doubt it.

[Crazy4Smallville]

I don't think so, not yet anyway.

I think it will be Jonathan and Lionel - and at the hand of Clark and Lex Luthor.

Because of Clark's decision - Jor-El will take the life of the body he used (Lionel), and Clark will know about it. Lex will find out about it through Braniac, and in retaliation, as well as a convienience to win an election, he will kill Jonathan. Clark will find out about Lex's hand in the decision - and thus you now have true adversaries, who no longer live in the shadow of their fathers - but have embraced their destinies.

[KryptoniteLacedPie]

Chloe will probably die, but not until a while. Jonathan has to die at the end of the series, because it's his death from a heart-attack that prompts Clark to leave Smallville for the Fortress of Solitude. I wouldn't be suprised if Lionel died, at one point or another, but he's not exactly close to Clark.

[Mr. E]

Well Jor-El didn't say multiple people close to Clark will die. I know more than one person will be dying in Reckoning, but it doesn't mean they all have to be close to Clark. Just one of them.

[cmgames]

Oh stop teasing me:p

[SuperDub2]

chloe cant die!! she is deadly
and wats this "reckoning" business, wat secrets do you know my friend???

[Chloe fan1988]

If TPTB choose to kill Chloe and Lionel, this show will go straight down the tubes. They are two of the three best characters on this show, Lex being the third. I believe that the writers enjoy writing for them too much to kill them; I say that it's Jonathon that dies.

[GatorTex]

I still think Chloe and Jonathan will bite it (no pun intended). Most people who find out Clark's secret bite it and Jonathan is due for a heart attack with his heart's condition. I agree with Chloe fan however if TPTB kill off Chloe, the show will take a major hit because she's an amazing character for this show.

[supercatmom]

My 2 cents - It will be eigher Chloe or Jonathan.

We all know the ones that can't die.
Lana: not tptb favorite girl
Lois: goes against canon
Martha: doubtful
Lex: not Superman's arch foe
Lional: Lex will murder him

That leaves Jonahan or Chloe.
Jonahan has a bad heart. In many of Superman's incarnations, Dad Kent dies when Clark is a teenager. And finally, TPTB have made as one of their themes for Smallville, father & son relationships.

Now to Chloe, She knows that Clark is an alien. She has been the Lois stand-in for the Smallville series, but the real Lois is now on Smallville. So can't you see Chloe's death to be the incentive for Lois to take up journalism. And maybe even Clark.

But for me if they kill off eigher Jonathan or Chloe, some of the Joy and fun of watching Smallville will die with them.

[Watching Smallville]

I agree. It's a joy to watch Chloe do her thing. And the relationship between Clark and his parents is central to what I like about the show.

Unfortunately, Al and Miles have always said that this series is a tragedy. So I can see them killing off Jonathan or Chloe, reglardless of how sad it would be for the viewers. I'm better prepared to lose Jonathan, because it's part of the canon. :(

But Chloe is such a fun character. And she seems to be the only one who goes after the truth just for the sake of doing the right thing. Clark is still going after the villain only when it affects him personally. He needs that push to go out a fight the good fight just for the sake of truth, justice, and the American way. I expect Chloe will play a part in giving him that push.

[GatorTex]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
He needs that push to go out a fight the good fight just for the sake of truth, justice, and the American way. I expect Chloe will play a part in giving him that push.

I'm a big Superman fan, but this is retarded about the man of steal. The American way? I'm from the States (love it too) and think this is such a load of Patriotic BS. How about truth, justice, and people in general?

[cmgames]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Unfortunately, Al and Miles have always said that this series is a tragedy.

I never read that. That's definitely got me intrigued, do you think there has been anything tragic so far in this season? Me can't think of anything so I wander what they got instore, must be big!

[Watching Smallville]

They said it on one of the commentaries. It might have been from the first season box set. I guess the tragedy this year is the final break in Lex and Clark's friendship. I can't remember the direct quotes from them They did say "He doesn't get the girl, the friendship ends badly" something like that.




Originally posted by GatorTex
I'm a big Superman fan, but this is retarded about the man of steal. The American way? I'm from the States (love it too) and think this is such a load of Patriotic BS. How about truth, justice, and people in general?

Just quoting from the old TV series! ;) (Maybe I should have used quotation marks...)

[GatorTex]

Watching Smallville.....that wasn't directed at you. Sorry if you thought it was....just in general about Supes. ;)

[Watching Smallville]

No problem! And I can see your point.;)

[attitudejc]

My theory that if Chloe were to die (which i hope not, of coarse) but if somebody figured out that one person to die would be Chloe i think that:

LEX will kidnap Chloe or hurt her (to scare her into telling him Clark's secret)
Then....
When she doesn't tell him, he will try to kill her with some sort of drug or somethin (cuz they always do)
then...
Chloe will be fighting for her life in the hospital and she will wake up and have the last conversation w/ Clark. (about what,...heck i dunno)

but hopefully none of this will happen anytime soon.

[BrokenHero]

Not to be a pain guys, but this is an episode forum, we're not supposed to be discussing spoilers or theories!!!! :-)

[djpnutz]

If it really IS a tragedy they want then Lana has to bite the bullet... Have you noticed how crappy her character depth has been since the whole lanabelle thing. I don't want that to happen but it really would force clark to leave everything behind... Lanas only a minor character in the whole superman world so seeing her leave wouldn't hurt as badly as lois or jk... Unless it IS that time for jk

[Crazy4Smallville]

What if it was Lois who dies? Then Lex goes after Chloe to try and learn the truth about Clark - because Lana has been whining to Lex about the closeness of Clark and Chloe - which forces Chloe underground, and eventually to assume the identity of her dead cousin (who only Clark, Chloe, The General & the Kents know what happened)?

I know it's a stretch, but I can dream can't I?

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by djpnutz
If it really IS a tragedy they want then Lana has to bite the bullet... Have you noticed how crappy her character depth has been since the whole lanabelle thing. I don't want that to happen but it really would force clark to leave everything behind... Lanas only a minor character in the whole superman world so seeing her leave wouldn't hurt as badly as lois or jk... Unless it IS that time for jk

In this series, Kristin is one of the three main stars, so I think the likelihood of something happening to her character is about the same as the likelihood of something happening to Lex or Clark.

The tragedy is that Clark and Lana's relationship doesn't work out, and that Clark and Lex's relationship not only doesn't last, but becomes one of enemies.

But I agree about her character development. I think it's a shame that the writers, given all this time, haven't fleshed out any more depth for Lana than they have. I see her as essentially the same girl with the same issues she had in the first season. And how often have they gone to the "bad Lana" well to make things interesting for her character?

[johnny fogg]

Lana exists solely to look hot.

A double-edged sword in the world of television acting! KK can act but has to make do with sounding like a retard.

Another reason why dudes have it easier. w00t!:D

[Watching Smallville]

If that's true, it's too bad. Clark looks fabulous, but he has some depth. And Lex ain't too bad either. :cool:

[johnny fogg]

Is it so hard just to make Lana a little more likeable? Is it sooooooooo hard??


"Oh, I think I'll join this sorority of plastic pampered morons and act overjoyed when I'm invited in solely on good looks."

Nyeh!! Stupid AND out of character! She oculd have rejected membership and THEN been vampirized, no?

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by johnny fogg
Is it so hard just to make Lana a little more likeable? Is it sooooooooo hard??

:rotfl:

[Superdan13]

Lana sucks chloe absolutely kils her everywhere, I didn't like how this episode though made it out that the show is about her it's smallville about clark

[johnny fogg]

Lana has no depth these days. I want to see a little bit more sharing between her and Clark. It seems all they talk about is movin' on. Yeah, when they're not fighting or lying to each other they go on and on about movin' on. "Leave the past behind", bleah.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?!

[Quadrotriticale]

Originally posted by GatorTex
I'm a big Superman fan, but this is retarded about the man of steal. The American way? I'm from the States (love it too) and think this is such a load of Patriotic BS. How about truth, justice, and people in general?

Because if it wasn't for America this world would be in deep crap. No one gives or does as much as this country, period.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Quadrotriticale
Because if it wasn't for America this world would be in deep crap. No one gives or does as much as this country, period.


Superman, for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

That was the slogan for the 'Man of Steel' conceived by two Jewish/Americans---Shuster and Siegel of the 20th Century!

Let's not get political, that discussion is for something outside the forum (Rules).

Now back to our little Chloe's fate: Two words:

Not Happening!!

[Liriel]

I thougt the slogan came from the radio show. It's not the slogan used in the '41 cartoon, anyway.

[shadow_2099]

Please people, Smallville is NOT the 1970's Movie. Jonothon Kent does NOT have to die. Oh he MAY, but its not certain. Really wish people would open up a comic that was written in the last 10 years, to see the Kent family is still going strong. Smallville has taken points from the movie, comics, tv shows, and animations. But no one version is the same as Smallville, so please get that understanding. Chloe is my first guess at a loss of life along with Jor-El and Lionel.

Shadow

Ya well, political discussions will and should happen. Sheesh. I havent figured out why some people think its necessary to be forum ushers....only incites people to "break the rules" even more.

Sheesh, some people need to worry about their own business and just ignore what you dont want to read....And yes Americans are good at that. America isnt a shining knight, and I do live here too. I just take the opinion that the grass is always greener on the other side and really, there are very few "bads" in absolute terms, but that perspectives differ greatly (ex. Iraq war = dumb or worse, I understand why an occupied people are willing to use guerrilla tactics to fight a larger force, if the events were reversed, I would do the same thing.)

Shadow

[supercatmom]

I agree Shadow - why do people act like the 1970 Superman movies are the do all and end all for the Superman mythos.

I posted that in some Superman incarnations, Pa Kent dies when Clark is a teenager but not in all of them.

If you ever watched Lois & Clark TV series, both Mom & Dad Kent were alive and frequently visited Clark at the Daily Planet and at his Apartment in Metropolis.
The warmth of the relationship between Clark and his parents were one of the things that made the show enjoyable to watch.
I can say the same of Smallville, so if they kill off Dad Kent, some of the enjoyment of watching the show will die too.

[No-El]

Originally posted by supercatmom
I agree Shadow - why do people act like the 1970 Superman movies are the do all and end all for the Superman mythos.

I posted that in some Superman incarnations, Pa Kent dies when Clark is a teenager but not in all of them.

If you ever watched Lois & Clark TV series, both Mom & Dad Kent were alive and frequently visited Clark at the Daily Planet and at his Apartment in Metropolis.
The warmth of the relationship between Clark and his parents were one of the things that made the show enjoyable to watch.
I can say the same of Smallville, so if they kill off Dad Kent, some of the enjoyment of watching the show will die too.


Understandable!

I believe part of the dilema is most of us who grew up on the Superman movies of 70's had grown accustomed them not knowing that other writers, producers and directors of today would use their creative license to retool and retell an old and endearing story.

It's like a warm and fuzzy blanket on cold winter's night that one is used to not wanting give it up for something different will give the same result.

[johnny fogg]

There is a movie continuity that is basically required to be respected as long as Donner's alive.

Gough and Millar have both concentrated on fitting into the movie setting (so far as designing the fortress after the Donner set and giving Jonathan heart problems) and even visited Brian Singer during his production to compare notes and avoid "any mythology clashes".

Face it, Jonathan will die. Chloe will most likely die.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by johnny fogg
There is a movie continuity that is basically required to be respected as long as Donner's alive.

I wasn't aware of this. Do you know how Lois & Clark got around this?

[johnny fogg]

Ha! WB filed a lien on the Superboy show to pave the way for L&C getting on the air. Very insidious, but yeah, that's how they got around it.

[Drew]

Allthough it seems like the obvious choice to either kill Chloe, Pa Kent, or Lionel, I really hope its not the case.

Those three really bring a lot to the show. Chloe in my oppiniom, is probably the most intresting (and eye appealing) character on the show, and it's intresting to have someone who knows Clarks secret.

I think Clark still needs Jonathons guidence. John Snider said it best in the latest Smallville magazine. To paraphrase, he said the fact that Clark still needs his parents for guidence and moral support is what makes the show intresting. If Clark becomes a man, and no longer needs anyone to guide him, then it really stops being Smallville.

As for Lionel, he is one of the biggest reasons that Lex is turning bad. I think Lex still should have his dad around (until he kills him in the last season) to build up the character development. Not to mention John Glover is a brilliant actor.

As hot as she is, and as good as she was in the first several seasons, I think if anyone, Lana should go. This would have a huge impact on Clark and Lex, and they could have a whole storyline about that. Plus she is sort of getting stale.

[No-El]

Originally posted by Drew
Allthough it seems like the obvious choice to either kill Chloe, Pa Kent, or Lionel, I really hope its not the case.

Those three really bring a lot to the show. Chloe in my oppiniom, is probably the most intresting (and eye appealing) character on the show, and it's intresting to have someone who knows Clarks secret.

I think Clark still needs Jonathons guidence. John Snider said it best in the latest Smallville magazine. To paraphrase, he said the fact that Clark still needs his parents for guidence and moral support is what makes the show intresting. If Clark becomes a man, and no longer needs anyone to guide him, then it really stops being Smallville.

As for Lionel, he is one of the biggest reasons that Lex is turning bad. I think Lex still should have his dad around (until he kills him in the last season) to build up the character development. Not to mention John Glover is a brilliant actor.

As hot as she is, and as good as she was in the first several seasons, I think if anyone, Lana should go. This would have a huge impact on Clark and Lex, and they could have a whole storyline about that. Plus she is sort of getting stale.




Interestingly plausable!

But, it's that pesky Jor-El/Lionel/Oracle warning from 'Hidden' that has all camps all over the internet community spooked!:( :( :( :(

We all know it's coming but none of knows who will 'get it' and depending on which camp anyone subscribes to (Chlarker, Chlois Lexana or the Clanas or any combination thereof) someone is not going to be happy if any "major characters" are permanantly offed!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: