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vyperman7
10-27-2005, 06:53 PM
In everyone's opinion what is the worst episode of Smallville to date?

The most popular choices seem to be

Ageless

Spell

Thirst


As bad as Spell was, and as bad as Thirst is probably going to be, nothing will ever beat Ageless. Ageless will always be the worst not only because of the plot, but also because of its placement in the season. It did nothing whatsoever to spark interest in the finale. I wish it would have been at the beginning of the season to get it out of the way.

montevallo
10-27-2005, 07:32 PM
i really didnt think thirst was bad

dizzy
10-27-2005, 07:33 PM
Ageless hands down

Summers
10-27-2005, 07:34 PM
I thought nothing would top "Ageless", but nope "Thirst" did it. It was bad. At with "Ageless" I was just bored, but "Thirst" was just plain awful.

cayayofm
10-27-2005, 07:34 PM
Ageless

ILoveClana
10-27-2005, 07:35 PM
As horrendous as Thirst was, Resurrection was just a little bit worse.

mario masta
10-27-2005, 07:39 PM
Wow, I have to disagree with most of you on Thirst. As bad as the vamp storyline was, it was actully a good episode (better than I had expected to tell you the truth.) The Daily Planet scenes were great, the future Superman references were cool (as well as the funny Chlark scenes in the party,) and Braniac was just plain awesome.

I vote Ageless.

ma200
10-27-2005, 07:40 PM
Clark contemplating about whether or not he could have kids actually saved "ageless" from being completely pointless.

"Spell" had that hilarious dance scene.

Thirst...other than the brainiac and fines scene, that episode was just plain horrible throughout. Vamps, Chloe getting into the DP for writing a story about it, the Clana (all style, no substance) just totally ruined it for me. It was just overwhelmingly bad.

So I pick Thirst.

supergurl88
10-27-2005, 07:40 PM
Thirst

xrayvision
10-27-2005, 07:56 PM
My worst episode list is (this is the order):

1) Ageless
2) Gone
3) Krypto
4) Recruit
5) Lucy
6) Drone
7) Nocturne

I thought Resurrection wasn't that bad. But Ageless was horrendous. Had they not wasted an episode like they did with that one, they could have spread out the content of Commencement more.

thehenry89
10-27-2005, 08:09 PM
don't hate on the krypto i love that dog (cries hysterically) :(

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 08:09 PM
Resurrection is my second worst episode...

My worst episodes list

- Ageless
- Resurrection
- Redux
- Magnetic
- Reaper

dreamer551
10-27-2005, 08:27 PM
My Worst Eps. List...

- Magnetic
- Lucy
- Reaper
- Resurrection
- Drone
- Nocturne
- Krypto

tmkfan
10-27-2005, 08:29 PM
The most popular choices seem to be

Ageless

Spell

Thirst

HAHAHA, where?!

Dude there are like 54485482 eps worst than Thirst and Ageless.

Um.. Facade, Devoted, Bound, Unsafe, Pariah, Krypto, Recruit anyone?

And from past seasons.... Resurrection, Obsession, Suspect? God dude wtf.

freddielm
10-27-2005, 08:29 PM
'Thirst' hands down.

therip
10-27-2005, 08:34 PM
i was pretty curious about this being a haloween episode..and it SUCKED!! worst..episode..EVER! i was bored out of my skull for the whole episode and was forced to change stations or mute the tv during the scenes with the other annoyingly ditzy vamps...i thought spell was better, and that really says something

nothingwithoutchloe
10-27-2005, 08:40 PM
Between Ageless, Spell, and Thirst, definately Agelss. The thing that saved Thirst was the scenes with Brainiac.

From Spell I kinda liked finding out that magic can hurt Clark, and the three ladies looked hot in that episode too.

I didn't really like anything about Ageless.

My worst list

Ageless
Redux
Velocity
Visitor
Forever

F-Stop Blues
10-27-2005, 08:43 PM
Ageless is the only episode in the history of Smallville in which I wanted to see what else was on. Thats never happened to me before or since.

lastdaughterofkrypton
10-27-2005, 08:45 PM
I think you should have added AQUA and LUCY to the mix those really sucked
I liked this one if was camping and KK and TW got her moments of bad acting and Buffy was totally ridiculous as a villainess but Lex interacting with Clark and brainiac were good and of course Chloe was great as always.
Also we get two buffy inside jokes:
Fine: There are not such things as vampires
Kahn: Slaying Buffy the vampire
Were wroth the whole bad points IMO :D

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by tmkfan
The most popular choices seem to be

Ageless

Spell

Thirst

HAHAHA, where?!

Dude there are like 54485482 eps worst than Thirst and Ageless.

Um.. Facade, Devoted, Bound, Unsafe, Pariah, Krypto, Recruit anyone?

And from past seasons.... Resurrection, Obsession, Suspect? God dude wtf.

Facade was good for the Clois
Devoted was hilarious and entertaining
Bound was decent
Unsafe did suck
Pariah was great
Krypto was entertaining
Recruit I liked

None of them were even close to how bad Ageless was. Ageless is the worst episode ever, and nothing will come close to how bad it was.

rx7g3n3s1s
10-27-2005, 08:53 PM
i personally dont like vampires (i know they're not real but i've a had a real fear of them since i was young, i was hoping smallville wouldnt go into the vampire thing but it did) so....i voted this episode as the worst

Beans
10-27-2005, 08:53 PM
Although I don't believe it fits SV mythos, I'm in to all the mythical stuff, i.e. witches and vamps, so those episodes weren't that bad. I like seeing how different writers come up with the backgrounds and explanations for all the weird stuff that's going on. Plus, it's All Hallow's Eve, lighten up. It's supposed to be fun. And the sorority sort of reminded me of Bring it On :lol:

Worst epi's ever:

1)Ageless
2)Redux
3)Suspect (For some reason I was bored.)
4)Craving
5)Resurrection
6)Velocity

You could say that my taste sucks, and it probably does, but it's a show!

Summers
10-27-2005, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton

Kahn: Slaying Buffy the vampire


Yea, somehow they were able to squeeze that one in their in an interesting order. Reminded of Andrew on BtVS lol.

nothingwithoutchloe
10-27-2005, 08:55 PM
Yeah I think it's gonna be hard for someone to change my mind about ageless. Lucy wasn't that great, but it introduce Lucy Lane, and it had the jump towards the end of the episode. I also didn't enjoy Aqua that much, but it introduce Aquaman in a cool way I think. Episode wasn't too good but it introduced Aquaman. Ageless was bad, and had nothing in it that would make me say 'at least they did this in the episode'. I agree that there are episodes that were probably as bad as Ageless, but they at least offered us a little something.

Premature Combustion
10-27-2005, 09:00 PM
REDUX WAS THE ABSOLUTE WORST EPISODE!

horrible story, it didnt make any sense, and it looked like it was edited in a high school AV room.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:09 PM
As bad as Redux was Ageless was worse. Nothing is worse than Ageless...

Redux makes my worst episodes list without a doubt. But it did have a few redeeming things like Clark superspeeding through the water, as well as him saying that he wanted to be studying journalism five years down the road. Ageless had no redeeming qualities at all.

phatum
10-27-2005, 09:11 PM
what about the whole first season

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:11 PM
I had to look over what happened in Redux to remember the plot. Rule of thumb: if you can't remember it (especially SV), it's :p .

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by phatum
what about the whole first season

Huh???...!!

The first season was ths second best season of the show after season three. Some of the show's best writing and dialogue comes from the first season.

I really love the first season. To each his own though.

phatum
10-27-2005, 09:14 PM
ok it was good but the story lines didnt really pick up until season 2

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:15 PM
I'm with Ryan the first season rocked :D. I loved the first season. With "Ageless" I was just bored as heck kinda like with "Redux". "Thirst" is was just bad, and laughable.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:16 PM
Good to hear it Mel.

Although, we might get into one of our "Rogue" debates... LOL

phatum
10-27-2005, 09:16 PM
i think the episode when whitneys dad dies is one of my favorites at least the end of it when there playing time after time

Kal'sGirl
10-27-2005, 09:17 PM
"Ageless" was bad. It was stutter bad. It was b-b-ba-baaaaad.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:18 PM
That episode is Crush.

The funeral scene is awesome. The song was a great choice.

My season one favorites list...

- Rogue
- Pilot
- Leech
- Hourglass
- Tempest

I also really like the episode Hothead.

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Good to hear it Mel.

Although, we might get into one of our "Rogue" debates... LOL

:lol:

Hey, now I didn't say I didn't like "Rogue" at all. I like "Rogue" it just well we have "Rogue" type episodes nearly every season. It's like they diminished that episode in my mind is all. It has nothing to do with like or dislike. Just being burnt out :lol:.

Kal2
10-27-2005, 09:20 PM
This episode was better than Aqua.

spidymich
10-27-2005, 09:21 PM
I still think "hunger" was the worst.

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by phatum
i think the episode when whitneys dad dies is one of my favorites at least the end of it when there playing time after time

I was ecstatic when they played that. It's my favorite scene from Strictly Ballroom! Although I was a little upset they didn't use the original version. The new one fit with the scene better I guess....I'm just tangent girl tonight, aren't I?

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:21 PM
You mean Craving?

I agree that episode sucked. Definately one of the worst.

phatum
10-27-2005, 09:22 PM
all the episodes were better than aqua bro

spidymich
10-27-2005, 09:22 PM
Sorry I meant "Craving"

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
That episode is Crush.

The funeral scene is awesome. The song was a great choice.

My season one favorites list...

- Rogue
- Pilot
- Leech
- Hourglass
- Tempest

I also really like the episode Hothead.

I agree. Oh, my favorites to add with it "Stray", "X-Ray", "Hug", "Nicodemus", and "Crush".

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:22 PM
Beans,

Cyndi Lauper is a bit dated...

I am suprised they have not come up with a Girls Just Wanna Have fun remix for Smallville yet... :lol:

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Kal2
This episode was better than Aqua.

I loved Aqua :D.

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:23 PM
Nicodemus!!!Oh, how I love thee Nicodemus!

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I agree. Oh, my favorites to add with it "Stray", "X-Ray", "Hug", "Nicodemus", and "Crush".

All awesome episodes...

Hug rules for the Clex
Nicodemus for the personality changes
Stray for Ryan
Crush for the Justin character

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Beans,

Cyndi Lauper is a bit dated...

I am suprised they have not come up with a Girls Just Wanna Have fun remix for Smallville yet... :lol:

Don't forget her song for The Goonies :D

bembol
10-27-2005, 09:25 PM
Thirst was great, I enjoyed it...!!!

Ageless IS the worst, it's the only episode I didn't watched again on the DVD

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Beans,

Cyndi Lauper is a bit dated...

I am suprised they have not come up with a Girls Just Wanna Have fun remix for Smallville yet... :lol:

Hey, they used the original in Gilmore Girls, why not Smallville? (I know, different show.) And the outdated part...would Frank Sinatra be included in that group?

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:25 PM
Goonies... Goonies... Goonies....

Everytime I hear the song trail off like that it makes me laugh

"get off me Chunk"

Kriminal
10-27-2005, 09:26 PM
i cant believe you guys are forgetting about craving and velocity

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Beans
Hey, they used the original in Gilmore Girls, why not Smallville? (I know, different show.) And the outdated part...would Frank Sinatra be included in that group?

Sinatra?

Hmmm

Not a big follower of his work

I am more of a fan of his acting than his singing. Manchurian Candidate is one of my all time favorite movies (the original). The new one with Denzel sucked,


Originally posted by Kriminal
i cant believe you guys are forgetting about craving and velocity

Craving has already been mentioned, and yes it sucked. But Velocity was a decent episode.

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Beans


Worst epi's ever:

1)Ageless
2)Redux
3)Suspect (For some reason I was bored.)
4)Craving
5)Resurrection
6)Velocity


Ahem! Not all of us!:D

phatum
10-27-2005, 09:28 PM
not until you do the truffle shuffle

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
All awesome episodes...

Hug rules for the Clex
Nicodemus for the personality changes
Stray for Ryan
Crush for the Justin character

Yup...Yup....Yup

GatorTex
10-27-2005, 09:29 PM
I was taken by this episode being the worst strictly for its nonsense. I can take the FOTW from being high on meteors afterall, it's Smallville, but vamps? Halloween or not....horrible. Nothing was worse than Draculana.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:29 PM
Hey Mel,

Speaking of Goonies, why the hell does Chunk ask if anyone has a Baby Ruth, and then pull one out of his pocket to give to Sloth later in the movie? Where the hell did it come from?

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Goonies... Goonies... Goonies....

Everytime I hear the song trail off like that it makes me laugh

"get off me Chunk"

:lol:

"First you got to do the shuffle"
"Come on"
"Do it"
"Come on"
"DO IT!!"

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:29 PM
Did Draculana remind anyone else but me of Catwoman?

tmkfan
10-27-2005, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Facade was good for the Clois
Devoted was hilarious and entertaining
Bound was decent
Unsafe did suck
Pariah was great
Krypto was entertaining
Recruit I liked

None of them were even close to how bad Ageless was. Ageless is the worst episode ever, and nothing will come close to how bad it was.

Tha'ts YOUR opinion.

And OMG how did I forgot.. worst ep ever was def Lucy! There's no way to defend that crap.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:32 PM
I still have 30 minutes until I watch Thirst, but I agree that the plot sounds like the worst they have ever come up with. But at the same time, it does sound like it has some redeeming qualities.

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7

Craving has already been mentioned, and yes it sucked. But Velocity was a decent episode.

Remember the episode forum on "Velocity" I think you and I were the only ones that like Velocity besides LanaandPete :lol:.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:32 PM
I still have 30 minutes until I watch Thirst, but I agree that the plot sounds like the worst they have ever come up with. But at the same time, it does sound like it has some redeeming qualities.

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:39 PM
Site went down on me. Oh, Ryan on your Baby Ruth question on Chunk. On the road looking over the rocks and such. Chunk asked for some candy specifically a Baby Ruth. Data gave it to him.

I loved "Lucy" great development for Lois, and gave her great background. Plus a itty bitty foreshadowing of Lois/Lex.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Remember the episode forum on "Velocity" I think you and I were the only ones that like Velocity besides LanaandPete :lol:.

That was hilarious Mel.

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:40 PM
I swear we were, and rest of the summer as well. Ah, old times..old times.

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by tmkfan
Tha'ts YOUR opinion.

And OMG how did I forgot.. worst ep ever was def Lucy! There's no way to defend that crap.

tmkfan,

It seems like we always bump heads for some reason.. :lol:

Lucy had the cool superjump, but it wasn't one of my favorite episodes. I did like though, how it showed a more vuleranable side to Lois.

By the way, I know that it is my opinion. I never claimed that what I was posting was fact.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
10-27-2005, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I thought nothing would top "Ageless", but nope "Thirst" did it. It was bad. At with "Ageless" I was just bored, but "Thirst" was just plain awful.


I agree, the only good part of "Thirst" is the Fine/Lex scene, James Marsters can turn crap into gold ;)

vyperman7
10-27-2005, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I swear we were, and rest of the summer as well. Ah, old times..old times.

Yeah, we have been members of this site for a long time now. I hit two years in September.

There are a few people that like the episode like Parker...

Data gave it to him?

Where do they show that?

Ketchup
10-27-2005, 09:44 PM
Ageless was great, Spell was alright, Thirst was alright.

If you want a crappy episode, check out Krypto.

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:51 PM
Oh and Viper, about Manchurian Candidate. I never got around to seeing either, I'll have to rent it. I myself prefer Guys and Dolls...Nothing beats Brando and Sinatra :).

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Yeah, we have been members of this site for a long time now. I hit two years in September.

There are a few people that like the episode like Parker...

Data gave it to him?

Where do they show that?

Yea, we came on the same time :D.

It was after their run in with Troy at the conivence store. They were riding their bikes on a street, and they stop to make sure they were going in the right place. Chunk was whining how hungry he was, and you can slightly see Data give it to him since the camera started to come onto Mikey. Data says "here".

I love "Krypto". I thought it was just cute.

Lexgirl33
10-27-2005, 09:54 PM
ageless by far

Summers
10-27-2005, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Beans
Oh and Viper, about Manchurian Candidate. I never got around to seeing either, I'll have to rent it. I myself prefer Guys and Dolls...Nothing beats Brando and Sinatra :).

How about Ocean's Eleven? I love it with The Rat Pack.

I loved the remake as well.

Beans
10-27-2005, 09:57 PM
The remake was awesome..but apparently I have a lot of catching up to do with Sinatra movies. I was aware that there was a Rat Pack Ocean's Eleven, but I could never find it in stores...

I know a lot more about Sinatra's singing career then his acting one, I have about three or four cd's of his on my iPod.

MsSullivan
10-27-2005, 10:01 PM
Thirst is far from the worst episode! I LOVED it! the vampire story sucked yes. but the rest WOW the best ending ever!

F-Stop Blues
10-27-2005, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Yeah, we have been members of this site for a long time now. I hit two years in September.




I hit my one year a week ago. I was strangely proud of myself. :)

NotTodayPete
10-27-2005, 10:07 PM
How about battle for the best episode?? what's with all the negativity and smallville bashing every week? this thread get's a GELT (good episode lousy thread)

Summers
10-27-2005, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Beans
The remake was awesome..but apparently I have a lot of catching up to do with Sinatra movies. I was aware that there was a Rat Pack Ocean's Eleven, but I could never find it in stores...

I know a lot more about Sinatra's singing career then his acting one, I have about three or four cd's of his on my iPod.

Oh, it's a must see. They sometimes show it on AMC, but the ending is a classic Rat Pack :D.

Wasn't he known as the first Teen Idol?

Beans
10-27-2005, 10:09 PM
Probably. He did a duet with Elvis Prestley, and every time Elvis would sing, all the girls would yell and scream. It was really like that. And then I think Sinatra said that they used to do that for him :).

Summers
10-27-2005, 10:10 PM
Hmm..maybe it was on A&E Biography. They showed really young gigs with him singing, and the girls are all screaming lol.

F-Stop Blues
10-27-2005, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by NotTodayPete
How about battle for the best episode?? what's with all the negativity and smallville bashing every week? this thread get's a GELT (good episode lousy thread)



Its only negative when people dont give reasons. There were reasons why this ep wasnt good. The story was cheesy and whoever thinks that by biting clark lana gets his powers is not thinking straight. But this wasnt the worst smallville ep imo, I think that can be debated and thats what we are doing in this thread. When an ep is good it gets its props. Either way every bad ep is someones favorite just like ever good ep is someones least. Its something I like to call the circle of Life. And it moves us all. :)

Beans
10-27-2005, 10:13 PM
Ah. I would have been in the front row :). I really think I was born in the wrong decade...

Have you seen the cartoon with the chickens? And it's basically and homage to Frank Sinatra, becuase there's a crooner, and all the chickens are screaming "Frankie!" and fainting.

Edit: This post has been edited four times (including this one) for all who are interested and confused.

Summers
10-27-2005, 10:15 PM
I hear ya. Feels like that sometimes. Those eras of Sinatra, Dean, and many other greats would be interesting to listen to and watch. I love it :D.

Kinda like the Circle of Life on The Lion King huh Parker lol.

drwood
10-27-2005, 10:35 PM
Worst episode ever was "Redux". Ageless was saved by Lionel's poisoning of Genevieve...the worst episode of s4 was Krypto (lame plot, based on a deceptive gimmick -- the dog wasn't kryptonian)

HotRodTE
10-27-2005, 11:01 PM
ageless by far did you see the acting in that one awful

LanaandPete
10-27-2005, 11:08 PM
Thirst, followed by ageless

Bobbie
10-27-2005, 11:10 PM
Ageless..........in fact I had to think hard to remember it, we tend to block things that we do not want to remember.....LOL

F-Stop Blues
10-27-2005, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by LanaandPete
Thirst, followed by ageless


Really? I gotta read your review now.

Sydafex7
10-28-2005, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by tmkfan
The most popular choices seem to be

Ageless

Spell

Thirst

HAHAHA, where?!

Dude there are like 54485482 eps worst than Thirst and Ageless.

Um.. Facade, Devoted, Bound, Unsafe, Pariah, Krypto, Recruit anyone?

And from past seasons.... Resurrection, Obsession, Suspect? God dude wtf.

please suspect was a good episode as are most of the ones listed here.

I didnt vote because the worst episode isnt on the list. Hands down the worst one is "Magnetic" its the only Smallville episode to date that I can't sit through and finish watching it. I've tried on numerous occasions and have failed everytime. However, I do agree with vyperman that ageless was completely out of place and it made no sense to have it so close to the end of the season. It didnt further anything along except the Lionel/Mrs. Teague stuff.

But still, it was watchable because of those lionel scenes. Same with Spell, it was watchable because I found the episode to be pretty funny at times and it also showed us Clark can be hurt by magic. It's also the episode that brought the Clana back after a dryspell (I guess that right there for most could make it a bad episode, but one of the few Clana fans left I guess). Also, Thirst was FAR from the worst of the series because of the cute Chloe narration (this was a surprise, wasnt expecting the story to unfold like that) which was very different for Smallville. They've never done anything like that before and I think it was kinda neat. Also it was saved because of Professor Fine/Lex scenes.
I will admit that their lame "scientific" explaination for the vampires was lame as hell. Of course, having actual vamps wouldve been lamer.

Magnetic however, was just a really DUMB story and was also out of place for the season. It was right before whats considered my a lot to be one of the greatest epi's of all time, "Shattered". It was lame, stupid and Kristen did a horrible job in my opinion. Of course, its not entirely her fault because she didnt write the crap she had to say but still.

constancelight
10-28-2005, 12:40 AM
Ageless was the worst episode ever

There was no character insight or progression at all.

At least in Spell and of course Thirst we got a deeper look into the characters.

LolaDane
10-28-2005, 01:03 AM
Ageless got my vote. No redeeming qualities in it whatsoever.

I thought Spell was atrocious when it first aired, but the cute commentary track by Kristin, Allison, and Erica on the season 4 DVD set has made me more lenient. Listening to the SV ladies yammer on about that episode was so entertaining.

Thirst isn't exactly my cup of tea either, but at least it had Princess Leia and Spike in it. :D

smallvillerox05
10-28-2005, 01:19 AM
tmkfan, I just have to ask, what was so bad about Pariah IYO? That was one of my faves of season 4! :D

Jor'el_Ted
10-28-2005, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by smallvillerox05
tmkfan, I just have to ask, what was so bad about Pariah IYO? That was one of my faves of season 4! :D

What i hated about it was that they killed off Alicia. :mad:

And I don't really think Thrist was the worst episode of all. Ageless on the other hand, i gotta agree with V-man. The episode was alright but it belonged at the begining of the season(maybe after Run and before Transferance). I geuss the reason they placed it when they did was to go along with the resparking of Clark and Lana's relationship. :)

SmvilleTeacher
10-28-2005, 08:24 AM
Personally, I liked Ageless the best of the three. I know that it isn't a popular view, but when I saw it the first time it was just a sweet episode. It was a break from Jason, witches, etc. Then the next week, we got back to that.

I didn't care for Spell when I first saw it because of the whole witch theme. And then I watched it on the DVD Commentary and realized it was really funny.

I like Thirst the least. The vampires do nothing for me. Sure there are some things that I liked in the episode but overall- not the best.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
10-28-2005, 08:25 AM
I thought Ageless and Spell were awful but Thirst outdid both of those, I cannot believe they wasted Carrie Fisher on this crappy episode. Plus having James Marsters say "There's no such thing as vampires" was just too much, I don't how he kept a straight face during that line.

Was Chloe channeling Veronica Mars? I keep reading from people that she was like Veronica Mars in this episode.

Hellbinder
10-28-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I thought Ageless and Spell were awful but Thirst outdid both of those, I cannot believe they wasted Carrie Fisher on this crappy episode. Plus having James Marsters say "There's no such thing as vampires" was just too much, I don't how he kept a straight face during that line.

Was Chloe channeling Veronica Mars? I keep reading from people that she was like Veronica Mars in this episode.

I vote Ageless.

Thirst was poor...but not that poor.

Chloe is ALWAYS like Veronica Mars. Or rather, the other way around...as Chloe came first!!!

I'm always suprised there isn't a Chloe = Veronica thread on this site.

;)

blue freak
10-28-2005, 09:05 AM
veronica's character gets way better treatment at least..

i voted thirst, but now i think ageless was worse.. or maybe they both tie. i dont want to waste more time deciding..

The Source
10-28-2005, 09:51 AM
No Smallville episode is bad to me. I need all the scenes and clips to make my MV a success.

drwood
10-28-2005, 10:08 AM
All-time bottom 20:
20. Jitters
19. Scare
18. Dichotic
17. Nocturne
16. Zero
15. Resurrection
14. Reaper
13. Lucy
12. Slumber
11. Shimmer
10. Obscura
9. Krypto
8. Velocity
7. Drone
6. Hothead
5. Cool
4. Visitor
3. Precipice
2. Craving
1. Redux

Keep in mind that b/c this is Smallville (a very good show), these episodes arent extremely terrible, but IMO, they are the worst of the series to date.

Randy G.
10-28-2005, 10:17 AM
Oh, I'm just an optimist. I like every episode of Smallville.
Some I like more........some I like less. ;)

cmgames
10-28-2005, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I thought Ageless and Spell were awful but Thirst outdid both of those, I cannot believe they wasted Carrie Fisher on this crappy episode. Plus having James Marsters say "There's no such thing as vampires" was just too much, I don't how he kept a straight face during that line.

Was Chloe channeling Veronica Mars? I keep reading from people that she was like Veronica Mars in this episode.

It was a poor attempt at trying to emulate the great Veronica Mars. People always say it's the other way around because Chloe was created first, but guess what Lois was created before Chloe.

Lois Lane>>>>VM >>>> Chloe Sullivan

Thats all you need to know!

All about Clark
10-28-2005, 10:28 AM
Worst: Ageless
Second Worst: Nocturne

I liked Thirst, and loved Spell.

jmart
10-28-2005, 11:06 AM
Ageless was the worst out of those three and I didn't really dig Spell either but I didn't think either was the worst episode of the series (though Ageless came pretty close) to me the worst episodes, hands down were Craving and Redux - I really disliked those episodes to the point where they were really the only episodes of the series I haven't watched atleast three times.

As for Thirst, the Professor Fine/ Lex Luthor stuff saved it and I thought it was cool to see the Daily Planet but I expected it to be more emotional then it was I mean this is the first time we see The Daily Planet but I didn't like the meteor freak vampires so it sort of ruined it all for me.

DARKRAGE
10-28-2005, 11:16 AM
there should be a thread for the poster who moans the most:) but as this is about episodes I think ageless was the weaker episode

tbird4u
10-28-2005, 11:19 AM
thirst hands down.

xrayvision
10-28-2005, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by jmart
Ageless was the worst out of those three and I didn't really dig Spell either but I didn't think either was the worst episode of the series (though Ageless came pretty close) to me the worst episodes, hands down were Craving and Redux - I really disliked those episodes to the point where they were really the only episodes of the series I haven't watched atleast three times.

As for Thirst, the Professor Fine/ Lex Luthor stuff saved it and I thought it was cool to see the Daily Planet but I expected it to be more emotional then it was I mean this is the first time we see The Daily Planet but I didn't like the meteor freak vampires so it sort of ruined it all for me.

I liked Redux because it showed Clark dealing with family problems, though the freak (definitely not a k-rock freak) was lame. Craving wasn't too bad either IMO. It showed Clark as being responsible and going to help people even when there were other things that he wanted to attend (Lana's birthday).

Ageless was just horrible for me. I just can't bring myself to watch it over and over again. The only scenes I liked were the Lionexevieve ones (I liked the one at the end with Lionel poisoning Genevieve). Besides that, the entire episode was pure crap.

I like Shelby, but can't stand the episode Krypto. It added no value to the series. If they wanted to add a dog, they could have done it as part of another episode rather than having a tease for Superman's dog, Krypto.

Recruit was another waste for me. They should have made Clark realize that he was meant for many more things than football at the end of Jinx.

There were too many junk episodes in S4. The stones should have changed hands many more times and Clark should have been the one who found the 2nd & 3rd stones. It would be cool if they did an episode where Lionel has a guy tailing Clark who knocks him out with kryptonite and steals the water stone, which would lead to Transference.

jaime,oburg
10-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Ageless.
I don't know what bothered me worse, the pre or post production blunders.

F-Stop Blues
10-28-2005, 12:28 PM
Ageless is the only episode I havent rewatched.

mild_mannered
10-28-2005, 12:34 PM
Are you guys forgetting Hunger in season one. It is amazing they didn't cancel the show right there.

As I have said elsewhere despite being rediculous Thirst was well done, lots of fun, and great development of Braniac!

nsuck1
10-28-2005, 12:39 PM
Doesnt Lucy get even an honorable mention? That was by far the worst and most useless episode ever. I think Ageless was better than that. At least we got the hormone jumping experience of seeing Clark holding a baby... cmon now. As for Thirst, it wasnt all that bad... although i only saw the last 20 minutes or so. Long enough to see clark (carlos) in the zorro costume. You all were right.. i about dropped dead laughing at him. especially the quote about him liking the cape. Spell was bad i admit, but you also get to see some nakie TW action. Nothing bad about that... Call me a total girly girl, but its the worst plot episodes that have the most skin.

F-Stop Blues
10-28-2005, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by mild_mannered
Are you guys forgetting Hunger in season one. It is amazing they didn't cancel the show right there.



I think you mean "Craving". Actually I watched this ep recently and sort of enjoyed it more than I originally did. I thought Pete was hilarious in it, "Chicks dig me. Get used to it." Come on, thats a great line.

cmgames
10-28-2005, 04:53 PM
I would only compare this with Spell as it was like for like really considering the theme and all. It definitely was up a notch from that but it falls way short compared to all others this season. IMHO the weakest episode so far, when they go for poor A plots like these why don't they give more time to the B plots which are usually far more interesting. Anyway, bits and pieces were good but thats not enough to make it a good episode.

SuperDub2
10-28-2005, 04:57 PM
just watched thirst tonite and id have to say i thought it was the worst ever but then i had forgotten bout ageless!! but im stickin with thirst, and only 2 episodes after hidden which is my favourite episode ever!!! wat a shame

cmgames
10-28-2005, 05:00 PM
Yes lets stick to this season because previous years there has been some right turkeys so if this season there are any worse than that you know we are going to be in for a long one:)

jmart
10-28-2005, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I liked Redux because it showed Clark dealing with family problems, though the freak (definitely not a k-rock freak) was lame. Craving wasn't too bad either IMO. It showed Clark as being responsible and going to help people even when there were other things that he wanted to attend (Lana's birthday).

There were scenes in both Redux and Craving I did like and like a few people have pointed out, this is Smallville and to me is one of the best television shows ever (Haven't really liked a show this much since Lois and Clark). So even the worst episodes are good in some way or another :-).

c_love
10-28-2005, 06:28 PM
I'm sorry, but Ageless was definitely the crappiest of the crappiest. The Lana/Clark scenes were too forced and it was just a bad episode. No way in the world is it better than thirst...

gloria
10-28-2005, 07:32 PM
erm....i dunno...i kinda like all sv epis but....

krytpo - just about some dogs being abused or some thing...

lucy - wtf?

ageless - the only thing i liked was the clana scenes ,when the boy was calling them mum and dad awww =)

redux - i dont recall... =/

thirst - *shakes head* what were they thinking?..when the screen froze i thought there was something wrong..but then i heard chloe doing a voice over i thought NO!!!!!!!!! and i put my head down in shame and then when i heard the name buffy..it was all over ¬_¬

the only thing that made this ep interesting was the brainac and lex scenes and ofcourse clana :D

jorel 2
10-28-2005, 08:30 PM
either Lucy or krypto

Beans
10-28-2005, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I thought Ageless and Spell were awful but Thirst outdid both of those, I cannot believe they wasted Carrie Fisher on this crappy episode. Plus having James Marsters say "There's no such thing as vampires" was just too much, I don't how he kept a straight face during that line.

Was Chloe channeling Veronica Mars? I keep reading from people that she was like Veronica Mars in this episode.

I was looking closely, because I was thinking the same thing about JM, and I think I saw a glimmer of a smile? But maybe I was just hoping to see one, he's too good of an actor to break his role like that.

cxianet
10-28-2005, 09:38 PM
Ah...I don't mean to show any bias or anything but it seems as though all the people who are hating on "Aqua", "Lucy", and "Krypto" are Clana fans; they hate it because there was a serious lack of Lana during these episodes and too much Lois. Just like to point that out...

Personally, I can't vote fairly because I'm leaning towards the Clois side of this huge shipper war.

However, I think most people (even Chlarkers) should agree that "Ageless" was absolutely horrendous. It made my eyes bleed and made me rhapsodize a little less about the season finale. There was no development whatsoever and the entire point of the episode was to be FILLER and foreshadow the Clana in the season finale.

Truly though, they shouldn't have foreshadowed at all. It was just that horrible.

"Thirst" was horrible. I've heard a couple of nice things about this episode and I would even agree with the James Marsters/ Carrie Fisher/Micheal Rosenbaum comments. Those three made the episode. I thought that Chloe wasn't horrible in this episode either. However, like a few people up there have stated, she seemed to be channeling an inner Veronica Mars. And honestly, VAMPIRES?! Naming the vampire Buffy?

That's just too much. All fans should agree that that's going way overboard.

lana&Clark4ever
10-28-2005, 10:42 PM
the worst episode period was "LUCY" it was boring and pointless...at least "thirst" was FUN and "campy"

vyperman7
10-28-2005, 10:49 PM
Lucy was not that great, but the superjump from the bridge was AWESOME. The only other thing I liked about Lucy, was that it showed a more vulernable side to Lois. Great Clois moment at the end.

kal-el03
10-28-2005, 10:51 PM
thirst wasnt a BAD epsiode, clearly some of you have forgotten Ageless

Somebody Stop Me
10-28-2005, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
In everyone's opinion what is the worst episode of Smallville to date?

The most popular choices seem to be

Ageless

Spell

Thirst


As bad as Spell was, and as bad as Thirst is probably going to be, nothing will ever beat Ageless. Ageless will always be the worst not only because of the plot, but also because of its placement in the season. It did nothing whatsoever to spark interest in the finale. I wish it would have been at the beginning of the season to get it out of the way.

Ryan you forgot Redux and Nocturne from the second season.

Magus
10-29-2005, 08:24 AM
Spell was awesome!
Lois: I'm gorgeous(sp?)
(later with the princetone guy)
Princeton guy: Clark Kent?
Clark Kent: Rock on dude(or something to that effect)

j03superbat
10-29-2005, 09:27 AM
I could barely watch Thirst.

- James Marsters saying there's no such thing as vampires. Ha, ha, ha... no.
- Buffy is a vampire. Ha, ha, ha... no. Plus she and her friends all acted too much like Dawn (from Spirit) and her friends.
- Chloe ripping off Veronica Mars' monologues. Because everyone thought Veronica Mars would rip off Chloe. Ha, ha, ha... no.

Still, for me the worst episode is Dichotic.

homosuperior
10-29-2005, 09:34 AM
Mine has to be (I forget the title) the one where Pete becomes Boy!Racer!Pete! in (is it?) season 2. I actually fast forwarded through some of it the first time I watched it, cos I could tell all the boy racer parts would be tedious. When I sampled them later, they were every bit as brain dribblingly dull as I'd guessed.

I actually quite enjoyed Thirst. And, hell, at least Spell had Lana being burned at the stake!

gloria
10-29-2005, 09:40 AM
i think you mean velocity when pete was being an a$s to clark

crazymonkeys007
10-29-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by mario masta
Wow, I have to disagree with most of you on Thirst. As bad as the vamp storyline was, it was actully a good episode (better than I had expected to tell you the truth.) The Daily Planet scenes were great, the future Superman references were cool (as well as the funny Chlark scenes in the party,) and Braniac was just plain awesome.

I vote Ageless.

Amen, I completely agree with you! I voted Ageless, I love clana..but *eek*. That episode sucked!

Somebody Stop Me
10-29-2005, 01:20 PM
Smallville's 5 worst IMO are: (durm roll please)

1. Ageless
2. Nocturne
3. Redux
4. Velocity
5. Dichotic

But each episode had it's good parts and they were better than what's on TV usually.

SuperClarkMode
10-29-2005, 01:30 PM
BUG BOY!

homosuperior
10-29-2005, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by gloria
i think you mean velocity when pete was being an a$s to clark

Yes, thank you, that one. It was pointless. Though, Clark stealing Lex's car did give me a "he's such a rent boy" smile.

vyperman7
10-29-2005, 02:56 PM
Velocity is not that bad of an episode, and I will stick up for it for as long as it takes. If you look past the Fast and the Furious part of the episode, it did an awesome job of putting tension into Pete and Clark's friendship and showing Pete's true feelings about Clark's secret and the effects it had on him. It is actually a pretty good episode in my opinion, and I never understood why so many people hated it.

SmallvilleMan
10-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Well vyper, what about this episode showing how much lana loves clark? The chloe thing was also good and as was brainiac making lex look like a chump.

vyperman7
10-29-2005, 03:10 PM
I really liked Thirst SM....

SmallvilleMan
10-29-2005, 03:14 PM
damn right you did;)

Kryptonianian Warrior
10-29-2005, 04:33 PM
Thirst and Spell were very good episodes in my opinion and they don't deserve to be on that list at all. Ageless was teh only episode that I didn't enjoy out of all the seasons.

Watching Smallville
10-29-2005, 04:59 PM
Ageless and Nocture are the only episodes I don't watch again. Thirst had a lot in it that I thought was good, aside from the Vampire story. And for a Halloween episode, I can accept it.

gloria
10-29-2005, 05:42 PM
what was nocture about again?

Lana_Lang #1
10-29-2005, 05:46 PM
I loved Thirst and Spell!

Ageless not so much although it was cute for Clanaers!

Like me!

Nocturne was about the boy that left poems for Lana at her parents grave.

gloria
10-29-2005, 05:52 PM
OMG!...i remember now..yea that ep boring ¬_¬

what was Dichotic and Redux about?

they must've been really bad cause i dont remember them :lol:

normally when someone descibes an ep i know the name of it or tells me the title ,i know what it was about straight away :\

Watching Smallville
10-29-2005, 06:05 PM
Dichotic is JTT as the twins, and Redux, I think is the Spirit Week girl who sucks the youth ouf of people....?

gloria
10-29-2005, 06:10 PM
twins? whos JTT?..is it the one where the guy could split him self in two and was dating lana and chloe at the same time?

Beans
10-29-2005, 06:20 PM
yeah, Jonathan Taylor Thomas...I think they said JTT because his name is too long :).

Lana_Lang #1
10-29-2005, 06:26 PM
Dichotic, Redux, Recruit and Velocity were the worst ones in my opinion.

Chloe fan1988
10-29-2005, 06:28 PM
I LOATHE Recruit. Complete and utter garbage.

Somebody Stop Me
10-29-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Velocity is not that bad of an episode, and I will stick up for it for as long as it takes. If you look past the Fast and the Furious part of the episode, it did an awesome job of putting tension into Pete and Clark's friendship and showing Pete's true feelings about Clark's secret and the effects it had on him. It is actually a pretty good episode in my opinion, and I never understood why so many people hated it.

Every episode of Smallville had it's good moments (except Ageless). Those 5 I listed are just the worst of the bunch.


Originally posted by Chloe fan1988
I LOATHE Recruit. Complete and utter garbage.

I liked Recuit.

Lana_Lang #1
10-29-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Lana_Lang #1
Dichotic, Redux, Recruit and Velocity were the worst ones in my opinion.

I'm not saying I hated them, I love ALL and EVERY Smallville episode but although there were some magnificant yet small points presented in each one, these were the ones I found either badly written, badly presented or too much.

vyperman7
10-29-2005, 07:03 PM
Sam,

I agree. Ageless had no good moments whatsoever. I have always been able to take at least one thing I liked from each episode, but Ageless had none.

I liked Recruit as well.

Summers
10-29-2005, 09:50 PM
I had one good moment in "Ageless" seeing Tom Welling holding a baby, and heat vision the baby bottle. When any guy is holding a baby it's just plain sweet :).

supernaman
10-29-2005, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Summers
I had one good moment in "Ageless" seeing Tom Welling holding a baby, and heat vision the baby bottle. When any guy is holding a baby it's just plain sweet :).

Minus the King of Pop ;)

smallvillerocks45
10-29-2005, 10:11 PM
I LOVED Ageless! Lucy, I could've lived without - I'm not saying I hated it, because I thought Magnetic was worse (I still didn't hate it - it was just so unnecessary), but Ageless --- it was cute, I was so upset that the WB didn't repeat it...now I guess I know why.

Summers
10-29-2005, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by supernaman
Minus the King of Pop ;)

:lol: agreed. I didn't mean in that sense :lol:.

spidymich
10-29-2005, 10:26 PM
My vote still goes toward Craving, but it was the first season. They didn't know any better.

tinysupergirl
10-29-2005, 11:23 PM
the battles in smallville have been detiorating lately. it seems like each 'freak' lately doesn't even fight back. even those Kryptonians in arrival had a weak battle, it was just a push from clark and that was the end of them. but in ageless, there didn't seem to be a battle cause you can't really control dying of natural causes (i.e. aging), so the worst battle for me has to be ageless.

shirkie
10-30-2005, 12:13 AM
"Thirst" was campy and lame and horrible, but at least it had a plot, unlike "Ageless" and its exploding FotW.
shirkie

lucky_biatch
10-30-2005, 12:41 AM
oh god.. ageless was the worst episode ever..

vyperman7
10-30-2005, 01:00 AM
LOL LOL LOL

I love it. So many people hate Ageless, and with good reason.


Originally posted by shirkie
"Thirst" was campy and lame and horrible, but at least it had a plot, unlike "Ageless" and its exploding FotW.
shirkie

Shirkie,

There wasn't anything about Thirst you liked? What about Fine and Lex, or the scenes with Kahn and Chloe? Plus, the explanation for why Buffy became a vampire was actually pretty plausible. I am not saying it was an award winner, but definately not as bad as it could have been. The acting on the vampire antics stunk, along with the acting of all the girls in the sorority. But I still found it to be a decent episode. I enjoyed it more than Aqua.

Somebody Stop Me
10-30-2005, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by spidymich
My vote still goes toward Craving, but it was the first season. They didn't know any better.

Man you got that right. Craving was bad. But Amy Adams ........whoa! She made up for it.

my3cats
10-30-2005, 01:58 AM
Ageless was 100% boring and pointless and Redux made no sense, but my list for top three painfully bad is still

1. Spell
2.Bound
3. the second to last ep of S4, I can't remember the title of (House of Wax FOTW)

smallvillerocks45
10-30-2005, 01:00 AM
That episode is called Forever.


-----
GOSH! (channeling Napoleon Dynamite here)....I'm still one of the few who liked Ageless...LoL

Somebody Stop Me
10-30-2005, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by vyperman7

I liked Recruit as well.

I guess with Recruit you would just have to love football.

gloria
10-30-2005, 03:11 AM
yea forever was boring but the lionel/lex/jason/geneive scenes in the cabin OMG tears are coming to my eyes now just thinking about it

they were brillant it so funny when lex and lionel came out the cabin and turned their heads and saw and jason saw them... they just ran.. :lol: and all you see it jason loading his gun or something (i dont know what its called) and ran after them..

and it was good to see lex and lionel bonding to say alive :p

luthorcorp
10-30-2005, 08:33 AM
they all stank worse than cheese that has been left out the fridge for 3 months....

in-fact why not add another option to all
i went for ageless cause they had so much potential it was very close to the finale it could have been used wisely to add to the tension of the coming commencement
but no used as a filler= wasted

Lana_Lang #1
10-30-2005, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by gloria
yea forever was boring but the lionel/lex/jason/geneive scenes in the cabin OMG tears are coming to my eyes now just thinking about it

they were brillant it so funny when lex and lionel came out the cabin and turned their heads and saw and jason saw them... they just ran.. :lol: and all you see it jason loading his gun or something (i dont know what its called) and ran after them..

and it was good to see lex and lionel bonding to say alive :p

I know! That whole scene reminded me of a Bugs Bunny Cartoon!

Jason" When hunting Wuthors, we must be wery, wery qwiet..."

MissSullivan
10-30-2005, 12:37 PM
I thought thirst was gonna be great, but it was by far the worst episode ever. lana just bothered me. and the ending was incredibly cheesy.

cxianet
10-30-2005, 07:32 PM
I also thought that "Recruit" was pretty good. I think this is mostly because it showed that Lois can't always protect herself and started a little foreshadowing of the Clark saving Lois.

I liked "Forever" too for the same reason. Lois is getting soft XD

KryptoniteLacedPie
10-30-2005, 07:41 PM
Are you guys kidding?! Lucy and Nocturne were two of my favorites! It must, however, be due to, erm, -coughTWOPcough- Omar does things with Smallville episode plotlines I never thought possible.

By the way. TWOP stands for Television Without Pity. They have the most hilarious Smallville recaps. You should read them sometime :)

Sydafex7
10-30-2005, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Velocity is not that bad of an episode, and I will stick up for it for as long as it takes. If you look past the Fast and the Furious part of the episode, it did an awesome job of putting tension into Pete and Clark's friendship and showing Pete's true feelings about Clark's secret and the effects it had on him. It is actually a pretty good episode in my opinion, and I never understood why so many people hated it.

I completely agree. It did a good job oftesting that friendship, which really needed to be done because we never really saw tension between Pete and Clark since "Duplicity". Sure we saw it in rush but I dont count that because it wastn truly pete he was being affected by something he couldnt control.

I think they may have been able to come up with a little better stroyline than that however to show this.

An Idea I ahd was somewhat of a combination of "Jinx" and "velocity" Instead of street racing, have Pete get into betting with Mxy. That couldve introduced Mxy AND had the tension between CLark and Pete. Overall, Velocity is FAR from the worst episode.

Im surprised no one is agreeing with me about "Magnetic". That episode was F****ing horrible.

My top 5 worst episodes are

Magnetic
Ageless
Devoted
Crave
Facade

vyperman7
10-30-2005, 10:03 PM
Great post Sydafex!!

That is actually a great idea for an episode. It would have been cool if Mxy was introduced in season three. I do agree that Magnetic was terrible, but it did have the one cool scene of melting the street with the heat vision. Ageless did not have one thing about it that I liked, and every other episode that I have seen, had at least one thing I liked.

Somebody Stop Me
10-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Magnetic had that really good song in it at the very beginning when Chloe and Lana were at the fair.

smallvillerocks45
10-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Sydafex7

Im surprised no one is agreeing with me about "Magnetic". That episode was F****ing horrible.

My top 5 worst episodes are

Magnetic
Ageless
Devoted
Crave
Facade

I'm with you on Magnetic (I posted about it a few pages ago)...I mean, I try to like all episodes, but that episode just killed me (I still watch it because it's Smallville, but it was so dumb...).

As for the Ageless...I liked it! :D (...am I still the only one???) LoL

vyperman7
10-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Viola,

How could you like Ageless? You must be the only one that truly liked the episode. I know there were some people that tolerated it, but no one fully enjoyed it that I know of. I am just curious what you found to be appealing about it. The acting was bad, and the storyline came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with the overall storyline for the season. It was also placed near the end of the season, and it gave no build up for Commencement at all. Plus, the premise of a rapidly aging baby is just so boring. The one thing that really bugged me, is when they had Lana act like she could care less that Clark just happened to appear at the top of the tower, and that he survivied the explosion. They did not have her call him on it.

Summers
10-30-2005, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
They did not have her call him on it.

Ironically, they did the same thing this season when Clark came back from the dead and she mentions nothing or ask nothing. Which boggles my mind since she saw him die, disappear, and come back all BBQ and smoking from the Earth's atmosphere lol.

smallvillerocks45
10-30-2005, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Viola,

How could you like Ageless? You must be the only one that truly liked the episode. I know there were some people that tolerated it, but no one fully enjoyed it that I know of. I am just curious what you found to be appealing about it. The acting was bad, and the storyline came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with the overall storyline for the season. It was also placed near the end of the season, and it gave no build up for Commencement at all. Plus, the premise of a rapidly aging baby is just so boring. The one thing that really bugged me, is when they had Lana act like she could care less that Clark just happened to appear at the top of the tower, and that he survivied the explosion. They did not have her call him on it.

I just thought it was the cutest episode. I loved the little moment when the kid ran to give Clark a hug and called him daddy. I also liked how it put Clark in his parent's shoes - i.e. The Kents couldn't have a child, but were blessed with Clark, paralled how even though the baby wasn't biologically his, Clark totally cared about the baby and his well being...

Aside from that, there were some parts that made me laugh. True, it didn't do much to lead up to Commencement - other than the Clana development - (I actually am not sure about that, because the WB didn't repeat it...*grumbles*) but I liked it nonetheless.

Now Magnetic...that was bad.

vyperman7
10-30-2005, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Summers
Ironically, they did the same thing this season when Clark came back from the dead and she mentions nothing or ask nothing. Which boggles my mind since she saw him die, disappear, and come back all BBQ and smoking from the Earth's atmosphere lol.

I agree with you Mel.

That was one of my gripes with Hidden. A lot of people wrote it off as shock, but you think that one of the first things in Lana's mind would be, "How in the hell did Clark come back from the dead, and why does he look like a walking piece of barbecue"...

smallvillerocks45
10-30-2005, 11:45 PM
LoL... A walking piece of barbecue...that's funny. *sigh*
You gotta love this show... I know I do.

Sydafex7
10-31-2005, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by vyperman7
Viola,

How could you like Ageless? You must be the only one that truly liked the episode. I know there were some people that tolerated it, but no one fully enjoyed it that I know of. I am just curious what you found to be appealing about it. The acting was bad, and the storyline came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with the overall storyline for the season. It was also placed near the end of the season, and it gave no build up for Commencement at all. Plus, the premise of a rapidly aging baby is just so boring. The one thing that really bugged me, is when they had Lana act like she could care less that Clark just happened to appear at the top of the tower, and that he survivied the explosion. They did not have her call him on it.

See to me, one cool scene doesnt make an episode watchable. In magnetic when he melted the street, yeah it was cool, but that was a whole minute of the show.

In ageless, we got a level three mention from Lex, we also got a cool ending with Lex being a badass and not wanting to release the findings of his research to the public. The baby grew rapidly and lex knows it's got to do with meteor rock. Remember the experiment he was doing in Onyx? Well, the info he gets from the rapidly growing baby could help him with that experiment. In that experiment, he learned how to grow food in the worst conditions. Imagine if you add that ability to the ability to grow food super fast.

Remember in Jitters, the experiement mentioned there ALSO had to do with using meteor rock to make corn grow rapidly...

See, ageless may have had a dumb story, but I think that episode is worth saving because of Lex and the knowledge he gained from the baby. Also, the explanation they gave us about how the baby grows rapidly made sense to me, unlike the crappy reason they gave us for the FOTW in Magnetic. Just imagine what all Lex could do with the findings.

And about Lana not calling clark out for just appearing at the top, well she has also not called him out on A LOT of things. I mean everytime he dissapears, dying and coming back to life and all BBQed up, the tornado. I'm used to it by now and I know for storytelling purposes, these things need to happen. Things like this happen all the time in comics within the drawings. I'm willing to let it go.

In magnetic, LEx had like no role at all. It was ALL worthless. The plot was dumb, the FOTW was lame and the reason he got his powers was also lame. A friggin snowglobe? Remember in jitters and also Duplicity how we learned that overexposure to meteor rock causes the jitters? In Duplicity we see Meteor rock seep through his head and cause him to get the jitters. Well, how come that didnt happen to the dood in Magnetic? Where did he get his Magnetic abilities, from the equipment he was in at the hospital? It just made no sense. Sure a rapidly growing baby is lame also, but, if you think deeper like I did above, you can se more there that's worth watching.

I do agree though that it showed up ina very awkward place in season 4. It felt like a throwaway episode that shouldve been in the beginning. I mean while clark SHOULD be looking for crystals, hes taking care of a baby... LAME.

The both suck, but I found Ageless a little better because of the evil Luthorcorp, which Magnetic didnt have.

And just for the record, a "cool song" doesnt save an episode.


Originally posted by vyperman7
I agree with you Mel.

That was one of my gripes with Hidden. A lot of people wrote it off as shock, but you think that one of the first things in Lana's mind would be, "How in the hell did Clark come back from the dead, and why does he look like a walking piece of barbecue"...

Yeah that was weird, but something I do that helps explain it a tad better is this:

She thought Clark was gone forever, now there he was alive. Of Course the first thing she's gonna do is hug him.

Now, fast forward to her and Lex's convo at the mansion and how Lex said "Whatever new lie Clark told you, how ever he swept in uder the rug..."

I just imagine that Lana and Clark talked about it and he came up with some reason for his resurection and Lana just bought it, whivh is why Lex said that. HE knows Clark is NOT normal and he wasnts Lana to realize it. This was Lex's point when he said "IS that what you have to think in order to keep a relationship with him" He's absolutely right. Lana is blined by Love. She knows Clark loves her, even though she knows something is weird with him. She doesnt care because even though he's hiding things, that doesnt mean he doesnt love her and she knows this so she just takes whatever excuse he gives her.

gloria
10-31-2005, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Summers
come back all BBQ and smoking from the Earth's atmosphere lol.

:rotfl:

oh magnetic? the guy who controled lana's mind?so she would go out with him?

........

WOW!
was that s1 or s2?
dont matter...yea i guess that one was boring....

these are ones i'll proberly never watch again:
>resurrection
>prodigal
>Precipice
>witness
>vistor
>insurgence
>metamophosis
>hothead
>cool
>hourglass
>craving
>jitters
>shimmer
>hug
>zero
>reaper
>drone
>obscura
----->plus the ones other peole i have mentioned before ,apart from spell cause i kinda liked that ep :\

WOAH!!... thats alot..am really fussy anyway :p

i noticed that most of the eps people have mentioned seem to be filler eps and have nothing to do with the main storyline..and if you do like the filler eps its only cause it's got stuff connected to the storyline..

does anyone remember bound..cause am looking through the s4 booklet and thats the one i have no idea what its about (even though i watched it) am guessing it couldnt have been that good =/

Sydafex7
10-31-2005, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by gloria
:rotfl:

oh magnetic? the guy who controled lana's mind?so she would go out with him?

........

WOW!
was that s1 or s2?
dont matter...yea i guess that one was boring....

these are ones i'll proberly never watch again:
>resurrection
>prodigal
>Precipice
>witness
>vistor
>insurgence
>metamophosis
>hothead
>cool
>hourglass
>craving
>jitters
>shimmer
>hug
>zero
>reaper
>drone
>obscura
----->plus the ones other peole i have mentioned before ,apart from spell cause i kinda liked that ep :\

WOAH!!... thats alot..am really fussy anyway :p

i noticed that most of the eps people have mentioned seem to be filler eps and have nothing to do with the main storyline..and if you do like the filler eps its only cause it's got stuff connected to the storyline..

does anyone remember bound..cause am looking through the s4 booklet and thats the one i have no idea what its about (even though i watched it) am guessing it couldnt have been that good =/
Bound was in season 4 and was about LEx being framed for murder ansd Clark helping clear his name. It dealt with Clark (yet again) realizing he doesnt know that much about Lex's personal life.


Magnetic was season 3, right before "Shattered" which was one of the best episodes of the series.

Prodigal, Zero, Insurgence, Hug,visitor, Jitters,precipice are all some of the best episodes of the series. Prodigal and Zero are amazing and those are not boring at all. In fact they are the complete opposite IMO. Great tension between the Kents and Lex in Zero, and in Prodigal, it was all about the Luthors, which is one of the only reasons I watch Smallville. Some of those yes, are fillers, but the ones I mentioned aren't fillers at all and of they are, they have such a good message that I don't consider it one. I mean Visitor shows us what Lana thinks of aliens(even though he wasnt really one) which is impotant for Clark and herI'm not gonna go into the others because that wuld take to long, but I am very surprised you dont like those episodes, as I'm sure a lot of people are also. But oh well, what can you do?. Also, if you dont like fillers, why didnt you mention any of the countless fillers from Season 4?

gloria
10-31-2005, 12:33 PM
what like lucy and recruit?

i couldnt be bothered to put them, people had mentioned and talked about them already more than once on this thread

SnarkMasterJ
10-31-2005, 12:36 PM
Out of the three listed, there's no doubt in my mind that "Ageless" takes the cake. It was just another reminder of how to hell S4 was going.

gloria
10-31-2005, 12:37 PM
am not saying i dont like fillers..am just saying some of the fillers had not interest to me for example...i liked spirit and devoted...but some fillers have something that i like but not enough to make me watch the whole ep again

xrayvision
10-31-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by gloria
:rotfl:
these are ones i'll proberly never watch again:
>resurrection
>prodigal
>Precipice
>witness
>vistor
>insurgence
>metamophosis
>hothead
>cool
>hourglass
>craving
>jitters
>shimmer
>hug
>zero
>reaper
>drone
>obscura
----->plus the ones other peole i have mentioned before ,apart from spell cause i kinda liked that ep :\

WOAH!!... thats alot..am really fussy anyway :p


You didn't like Insurgence? That was the episode that reeled me in for good. That jump from the Daily Planet building was great and the episode had a lot of suspense. Prodigal was also very interesting with Lex's half brother Lucas. It furthered Lionel's interest of Clark after finding drops of that melted grill of the ventilation duct and had a great plot with Lucas' game to test out Lionel by putting blanks in his gun.

Witness was about a gang of guys who had similar strength to Clark's, and how he was going to stop them after they beat him up and threatened the Kents as well. Precipice was a damn good episode (with the exception of the Lana-fu, which lacks credibility in how it was done). Helen's ex-boyfriend was a great villian. Visitor was a nice followup to Rosetta and questioned Clark's belief in what Dr. Swann told him. Hug was a great episode that truly showed Clark as having the Superman morals (which seem to have disappeared) by helping Kyle. It also showed his friendship with Lex in a new way that hadn't been done until then. Hourglass gave us the 1st appearance of Lex's future, and again showed Clark as wanting to help complete strangers. Obscura showed how much Chloe means to Clark and had an interesting story. It had some good tension between Lana and Chlark. Zero was another good episode showing how Lex's past comes back to haunt him every now & then and showed how Lex deals with it in his current (at that time) mindset. Shimmer had Clark having his first clear shot at Lana and turning it down since he didn't think it was right to capitalize on the situation w/ Whitney. Reaper didn't have to do with the Superman mythos, but it was an entertaining episode seeing Clark using his morals to help Whitney and Tyler (who was in a very unfortunate situation). The Lex-Lionel plot in this episode was also entertaining. Jitters was an action-packed episode where we got our 1st glimpse of level 3 and how much Lionel was hiding from the world.

Cool & Hothead were interesting fillers that were about Clark sacrificing things he wanted to do to help others or serve a better purpose. They were both interesting in regards to the plot. The same is true about Craving. I thought this one could have been done a lot better, but I like how Clark & Chloe broke into the room with the deer's body. It also shows that even though Clark couldn't make Lana's party, that he still does something special for her. Metamorphosis was a decent episode where Clark saves Lana but doesn't get the credit for it and shows up his human (jealous) side. The battle between Clark & Greg was definitely interesting. Resurrection was mainly interesting since it had a lot of suspense with the hostage situation while Jonathan was getting open heart surgery. The facts we learned about Lionel's miracle serum based on Clark's blood also made it good.

I really didn't like Drone myself. I like it more now than I did when I first watched it. This was one of the first episodes I caught and it really disinterested me in the show. I think I caught Rogue before this one, but Rogue had a lot going on in it for me to understand what was going on (I caught it in progress). But what I like about Drone now is the tension between Clark & Chloe after he found out that she was endorsing another candidate.

You should give these episodes a 2nd chance. I thought the same about most of them myself, but after watching them again, you'll probably notice things you like about them that you didn't before.

gloria
10-31-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
You should give these episodes a 2nd chance. I thought the same about most of them myself, but after watching them again, you'll probably notice things you like about them that you didn't before.

maybe your right...i havent seen them eps for a long time...so maybe if i watch them again my opinion of them might change...well thats my christmas planned :\ :D

montevallo
10-31-2005, 02:38 PM
there are 3 episodes i could say i dont like, i didnt hate them, i just thought they were boring

1) slumber
2) precipice
3) legacy

xrayvision
10-31-2005, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by gloria
maybe your right...i havent seen them eps for a long time...so maybe if i watch them again my opinion of them might change...well thats my christmas planned :\ :D

Glad to hear it. :)

I think you will definitely like Insurgence. It was certainly a great episode (especially seeing Lex's jealous reaction at the very end when he looks at the Kents). There will probably still be some you don't like. I will probably never like Ageless, though there were good scenes between Lionel, Genevieve and Lex. Hug was also a good episode that you may like. I liked how it showed 2 people with the same power where one used it for the purposes of evil while the other just hid and eventually used it to do good after Clark persuaded him. This is comparable to what happens between Clark & Lex.

Muse25
10-31-2005, 04:16 PM
I had to vote for Ageless as the worst episode. I will never like that episode.

Somebody Stop Me
10-31-2005, 07:00 PM
Insurgence was written by Jeph Loeb and is probably one of the best SV episodes ever made. This was high drama with no FOTW's in it.

We also got introduced to Maggie Sawyer.

Sydafex7
11-01-2005, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
Insurgence was written by Jeph Loeb and is probably one of the best SV episodes ever made. This was high drama with no FOTW's in it.

We also got introduced to Maggie Sawyer.


yep Maggie Sawyer is going to be in "Exposed". I cant wait

vyperman7
11-01-2005, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by gloria

>resurrection
>prodigal
>Precipice
>witness
>vistor
>insurgence
>metamophosis
>hothead
>cool
>hourglass
>craving
>jitters
>shimmer
>hug
>zero
>reaper
>drone
>obscura
----->plus the ones other peole i have mentioned before ,apart from spell cause i kinda liked that ep :\


Resurrection is the second worst episode of the show after Ageless. I hated it. Visitor was absolutely terrible as well. I hated Craving and Reaper equally as much as well. These are the episodes that I agree with you about.

However, the one that I was most suprised to see on your list was Insurgence. That has to be one of my all time favorite episodes. Not just because of the Daily Planet jump, but also because it was a very suspenseful episode and it was well written. You are probably the only person that I have ever seen that disliked the episode. Hourglass is another fantastic episode as well. Prodigal I really enjoyed as well because of Lucas(my favorite guest character), as well as the power struggle between the Luthors. Hug was outstanding because of the forshadowing it gave with Clark and Lex. Zero and Jitters were two more episodes that were really good as well. MOst of your list had episodes that I enjoyed on it, with the acception of the ones that I pointed out at the top.

xsoulx
11-01-2005, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by tmkfan
The most popular choices seem to be

Ageless

Spell

Thirst

HAHAHA, where?!

Dude there are like 54485482 eps worst than Thirst and Ageless.

Um.. Facade, Devoted, Bound, Unsafe, Pariah, Krypto, Recruit anyone?

And from past seasons.... Resurrection, Obsession, Suspect? God dude wtf.
bound was pretty bad actually probably the worst, recruit wasnt that bad but thanks for bringing up bound again lol

ClarksGirl21
11-01-2005, 07:11 PM
i liked thirst.. lol.. but goh.. i hated ageless! geez.. now that i couldnt even watch!

Kryptonianian Warrior
11-01-2005, 07:37 PM
I really did not think there was a bad episode on Smallville. Each episode had something special and was enjoyable. Ageless could have been better and a few others but none would get a D grade or below. Look at the good in things, not the bad and you will be much happier in life.

Supersonic
11-01-2005, 08:06 PM
x'D Great Thread!

Ageless by FAR!

pcruz5
11-03-2005, 12:13 AM
Ageless is the worst by far.....

Sydafex7
11-03-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Kryptonianian Warrior
I really did not think there was a bad episode on Smallville. Each episode had something special and was enjoyable. Ageless could have been better and a few others but none would get a D grade or below. Look at the good in things, not the bad and you will be much happier in life.

true about ageless and other acclaimed "bad episodes"

but there was no good AT ALL in "Magnetic"

tonyrino8
11-04-2005, 10:28 AM
- Ageless
- Thirst
- Magnetic

Suppose if Clark hadn't of long jumped, I'd have said Lucy as well.

gloria
11-04-2005, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by tonyrino8
- Ageless
- Thirst
- Magnetic

Suppose if Clark hadn't of long jumped, I'd have said Lucy as well.

but why?..why dont you want clark to use his powers to jump?

most people say thats the best bit...i even liked that bit :p

rundstedt2001
11-04-2005, 11:02 AM
Okay, just saw THIRST!!!!!!!!!

I guess this is the "Highlander 2 movie"- episode of Smallville. In other words: I WILL ERASE THE EPISODE FROM MY MIND......done

Thirst??? dont know what u are talking about...

Jlvsclrk
11-07-2005, 06:45 PM
LOL, but Thirst has a long way to go 'til it reaches Ageless territory. Aqua is my pick as the worst this season: there were only about 2 decent scenes in it. But here's my list of the worst episodes:

- Ageless. as discussed
- Whisper - I'm amazed this wasn't part of the poll, because its absolutely dreadful. Are we really supposed to believe for an instant that Clark is going to stay blind for more than a day or two? Good lord.
- Suspect
- Redux. they dropped it from season 1 and shoehorned it into season 2: too bad, if ever an episode didn't need to be aired, this one was it
- Reaper
- Nocturne

Those are the one's I'd call outright failures. On the tolerable-but-I-have-no-interest-in-watching-again level:
- Fever - mainly because I hate the deus ex machina angle.
- Bound
- Sacred
- Aqua

xrayvision
11-07-2005, 07:51 PM
Regarding the deus ex machina, do you mean how they used the ship to save Martha & Clark? I thought it was a decent idea. It showed continuity, and it was good to see the ship being used for good while it existed. I'm sure something that advanced would be able to counteract the irradiated spores (green k no doubt) that they were exposed to.

I also liked Whisper. I do agree that it was ridiculous how they thought the blindness would have been permanent, but I understand how it lasted as long as it did. I did think that the FOTW's power was lame though. But I liked how he got help from his parents to coordinate his super-hearing to save Pete.

Reaper wasn't the best episode, but the acting was good. It did take a real world issue and introduced it to a very unfortunate character. I liked it for those reasons. I also liked it because Clark was more Superman (morals & sense of responsibility) back then than he is now.

Suspect was an OK "who did it?" episode. I originally didn't like it too much, but upon repeat viewings thought of it to be decently done. I think they should have showed a lot more anger with Pete getting his Camaro blown up (I'd be really pissed). Clark should have caught that bullet. I did think the part where it's revealed the sheriff goes into the room and shoots at the decoy bed could have been done a whole lot better.

The main thing I liked in Redux was how Clark tried to patch things up with his family and was unable to do it. It showed his inability to save everything, which was realistic. I also like his and Lex's interactions with the ultra hard-ass principal and how they both (Clark & Lex) knew in the end that what he was doing was in their best interests. I didn't like the FOTW. It was never explained how she got her powers (she was around way before the meteor shower). Maybe she was the original Na-man's real wife?

Nocturne was crappy. The only things I liked were Martha working for Lionel (awesome plot) and Byron's crazy father's reactions to him being missing (I laughed like crazy when I saw that). The helicopter scene wasn't too bad.

As far as Sacred goes, I thought it was a suspenseful episode. It had plenty of action, and I liked when we found out that Lex was going to have Jason tortured for the stones. I thought the witch arc was something they should have never done. The stones arc was not a bad idea, but they jammed it down our throats. I didn't like the way Lex just appeared in Crusade with that statue. The stones were never mentioned before this and there was just no explanation. They could have devoted a few good episodes where Clark goes to the cave to find out about the stones and Lex finds something in his loft and starts looking for them as well with Lionel finding out. It should have been developed a whole lot better than wasting time w/ episodes like Gone, Facade and many others.

I didn't like Bound too much. I thought they failed painting Lex as a bad guy. It was far from the worst, but wasn't good either. I liked the Chlark in this episode. Aqua was another one I thought could have been done better. It had too much activism for my liking. Aquaman seemed to be like a street thug (relying on C4). Superheroes are above using bombs, and I was turned off by this. I didn't like how much Clark regressed as a responsible Superman-like character. He was much more responsible in S1 (just watch Hourglass when he tried to do anything to save the people he saw in that vision).

But everyone has their own tastes, so it's all OK. I didn't see episodes like Recruit, Krypto, Facade, Gone, Devoted, and Lucy on your list (which I don't think progressed the story) so if you like these, then you have all the reason to. Like you said, it doesn't seem like any episode is as bad as Ageless. Gone comes close for me (had a total lack of credibility) along with Recruit and Krypto (it's not the dog that makes me dislike this episode).

But overall, despite all the flaws (vampire rabies disease does not mean immortality as in mythical vampires; Kryptonian Lana; etc), I thought Thirst was a fun episode to watch. I've watched it multiple times, and do enjoy it (especially the "I like it" part about the cape).

tonyrino8
11-08-2005, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by gloria
but why?..why dont you want clark to use his powers to jump?

most people say thats the best bit...i even liked that bit :p

That's what I was trying to say!!!
(That was the only good part - but an ace part at that too!!)

If you take that scene out, the episode was pants.

Jlvsclrk
11-09-2005, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
Regarding the deus ex machina, do you mean how they used the ship to save Martha & Clark? I thought it was a decent idea. It showed continuity, and it was good to see the ship being used for good while it existed. I'm sure something that advanced would be able to counteract the irradiated spores (green k no doubt) that they were exposed to.

Deus ex machina is a term from ancient Greek tragedy: back in the day, the Gods would make their grand entrance by being lowered onto the stage by a machine (the origin of special effects). They would then proceed to explain to the humble chorus (and audience) how to get out of the crisis that they find themselves in. In modern terms, the term "is still used for cases where an author uses some improbable (and often clumsy) plot device to work his or her way out of a difficult situation. When the cavalry comes charging over the hill or when the impoverished hero is relieved by an unexpected inheritance, it's often called a deus ex machina." http://newark.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Terms/deusexmachina.html

I can't begin to tell you what a BAD idea it is to have a device about that can heal everyone within a several hundred yard radius just by inserting a key in it. There's now NO possibility of long term danger to any of our characters, so where's the drama? Clark HAD to blow up the ship for this reason alone.



I also liked Whisper. I do agree that it was ridiculous how they thought the blindness would have been permanent, but I understand how it lasted as long as it did. I did think that the FOTW's power was lame though. But I liked how he got help from his parents to coordinate his super-hearing to save Pete.


We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. They really wasted a "new power" episode here, and the SFX for the super hearing have always been the weakest. It had its moments like when Clark's vision was blurry so the took him to the doctor and got him THE glasses. :)



As far as Sacred goes, I thought it was a suspenseful episode. It had plenty of action, and I liked when we found out that Lex was going to have Jason tortured for the stones. I thought the witch arc was something they should have never done. The stones arc was not a bad idea, but they jammed it down our throats. I didn't like the way Lex just appeared in Crusade with that statue. The stones were never mentioned before this and there was just no explanation. They could have devoted a few good episodes where Clark goes to the cave to find out about the stones and Lex finds something in his loft and starts looking for them as well with Lionel finding out. It should have been developed a whole lot better than wasting time w/ episodes like Gone, Facade and many others.


Well, yes. But what really bugs me about this episode is the fight with Isabelle involving the swords. Crouching tiger / hidden lana. Its not often I'm bored by a fight scene on Smallville, but this one had me rolling my eyes.



But everyone has their own tastes, so it's all OK. I didn't see episodes like Recruit, Krypto, Facade, Gone, Devoted, and Lucy on your list (which I don't think progressed the story) so if you like these, then you have all the reason to. Like you said, it doesn't seem like any episode is as bad as Ageless. Gone comes close for me (had a total lack of credibility) along with Recruit and Krypto (it's not the dog that makes me dislike this episode).


Recruit - loved Clark finally realizing what JK had been telling him was true and giving up the football dream. I know it doesn't seem like much to many viewers because they know where Clark is headed, but he DOESN'T. So it is a sacrifice and does progress the story. Krypto - sorry loved the dog. Lucy - loved the Clois and the rescue. Gone - I can see why you didn't like it but I did: I particularly love the looks Clark and Lex exchange when they meet at Chloe's safe house. Facade - maybe I was in a good mood that day, but I liked it. Progression is highly overrated IMHO.

As for Devoted, how that could be on your list is utterly beyond me. I adore this epi: I'll quote you some reasons why. Clois: "They're not really your colours." "They're the school colours." "I'm glad you made the team Clark, but why be a conformist? At least with the whole farmboy plaid thing, as lame as it is, it completely belongs to you." "In the future, let's restrict ourselves to hello and goodbye." / Chloe: "I'll do anything for you. Things that Lana would never do. Things to relieve your stress." :lol:

And I do love how he and Chloe honestly talk about their feelings and he proves how much he cares for her by promising to make time for the Torch, on top of all the demands of school and football.

Tacosupes
11-11-2005, 10:28 PM
Out of those three? Spell easily, because the implausibility of it all( I know Thirsts is implausible as well, even for smallville, but hold on...) AND the CHEESY dialog LANA CHLOE and LOIS had to spew when the were <snicker> witches. I cant believe DEVOTED and FACADE,the TWO ALL TIME ***WORST*** episodes of smallville ever filmed werent on your list. Those two episodes were so crappy , and the fact that they aired back- to -back soured me on Smallville season four, Erica Durances Lois Lane Character, and the future of this show in general. I cringe everytime Lois is in a scene because I just know shes going to spew another awful line and drive the episode into a downward spiral.

"Spirit" is another ep that comes to mind that blows BIG TIME. Gale has to be one of the worst FOTWs ever.

cxianet
11-11-2005, 11:20 PM
I'm getting a lot of hating on Lois episodes. I think people don't like her character as a whole or Erica Durance's interpretation of her character.

I think I'm more than just a little different from most people because I like it.

It really is a younger version of Lois and a little rough around the edges but still making it through. I think the character needs to have a little more development than just stripping in a club in Metropolis.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the episode. That scene was just a little out of place and showed Lois a little out of character.

They should push her more into investigative reporting and closer to the Superman destiny. This keeping her at the same level of thought and significance thing is really not working for her character and makes Lois's character look like trash.

I have to admit, "Devoted" and "Facade" were a little stupid. I didn't like the general plot of them but I loved Lois, Chloe and Clark in these episodes. This was a good little introduction into Lois's character and bringing in Chloe's cousin gave us some interesting interaction.

Ah they need to put Lois in some better episodes. Those little filler FotW episodes are really not doing anything about her image to the Smallville population as a whole except make everyone furious about her.

And the debate over "Aqua"? I absolutely loved that episode. Not just because I'm a Clois/Lois fan, but also because the episode was good as a whole with the bringing in of Aquaman. While his acting may have been a little better, it was an excellent episode that boasted the ratings.

That is two cents :)

Prodigal
11-13-2005, 01:34 AM
I had a good time watching Spell
and liked Thirst too, because the previous episodes were simply amazing and too serious, and thirst was the first "break" of the season.

I tried to enjoy Ageless, but it was a bad episode. Not the worst IMO.

MY WORST LIST (in order)
1. Slumber
2. Ageless
3. Whisper
4. Resurrection
5. Unsafe
6. Witness
7. Forsaken
And last but not least, Covenant.

Prodigal ®

BULLITT
11-17-2005, 09:31 PM
First she's a witch, now a vampire?!

What crap!

I hope the person responsible for putting this one on, is no longer attatched to the show.

redboots
11-25-2005, 05:07 AM
Thirst.

ajax
12-12-2005, 09:12 AM
why do so many people hate "spell". magic does exist in the superman/dc universe and clark is learning that it is one of his weaknesses id say that was a pretty important discovery.

smallville seems to be preparing clark for the future, when "smallville's" clark becomes superman he will already know

his weakness to all kryptonites
his weakness to kryptonoian weapons
his powers come from the sun
how to read kryptonian,
his kryptonian heritage (krypton, jorel, kal-el,kara, lara),
he will already have a handle on his powers
know what happened to krypton
he will already have experience at fighting super powered villian and other krptonians
about brainiac, zod & TPZ
future members of the JLA

and now that he has a weakness to magic

plus the episode has lana, lois and chloe looking hot, great special effects and some great comedy moments i actualy like spell although i dont think isabelle needed to appear in "sacred" and "commencement".

but i do agree that ageless was very boring and thirst is fun if not taken seriously.

freeblue
12-15-2005, 11:23 AM
IS THE WORST EVER!!!!!!!!! ..... i beleive that ....

and become worst with the acting of Allison Mack ...



:( :( :( :( :( :(

ARealClarkKent
01-12-2006, 04:23 PM
I hated thirst.

But Spell I loved. It was key to the plot of that season. Isobel's posession of Lana's body.

greggbray
02-13-2006, 07:53 AM
1) Ageless
2) Spell
3) Thirst
4) Drone
5) Nocturne
6) Sacred (despite some great moments)
7) ...arrgh...the one with the old woman who sucks the life force out of people to stay young..had nothing to do with anything...can't think of the title
8.) Gone (meh..should have been better)
9.) Spirit (that's enough possession for one season)
10.) Fanatic (not terrible, just not enthralling)
11.) Tomb (not terrible, just meh..)

And that's it really. I think those are all the episodes I don't like, and out of 103 episodes, to like (if not LOVE) about 92 of them--well, that's just pretty darn good. :)

ajax
02-13-2006, 12:52 PM
worst: thirst, ageless, forever, bound, magnetic, velocity, forsaken, facade, lucy,aqua, exsposed, splinter, fanatic, lockdown.

Samiosam
02-14-2006, 11:53 AM
Ageless. It just made no sence whatssoever, The only episode I I hated. I loved spell nothing wrong with it, Thrist was hilariouse (In a good way) So yea ageless for me!!

RJK62284
03-05-2006, 07:33 PM
Ageless

Rosey
03-05-2006, 07:53 PM
Strange that I don't remember seeing this thread before. Oh well.

I voted for Spell. While I actually enjoyed it as a stand-alone episode, it is completely wrong for the mythology of the show. Let's not mix our genres please. I'll take my superheros straight - leave the magic for another show and time. The stones arc was plenty meaty enough to stand on its own without adding the magic/witch part. TPTB did untold damage to the show with this trick to give the Lana character something to do. I am starting a re-watch of S4 - I fast-forward through all of the Lana & Jason parts.

Thirst is a close second for the same reason. I don't think that you should mix superheros with vampires. Though they did make a lame attempt to link them with Kryptonite. :rolleyes:

Sydafex7
03-09-2006, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by ajax
worst: thirst, ageless, forever, bound, magnetic, velocity, forsaken, facade, lucy,aqua, exsposed, splinter, fanatic, lockdown.

Splinter?? lol your a retard.

8SMALLFAN8
03-15-2006, 07:55 AM
There have been a few that I would rather not go back and watch, but I don't think I have ever HATED an episode. I mean...I don't like when Clark loses his powers...but that goes along with the myth so its bound to happen here and there (I suppose) but out of these three choices...it's most definitely 'Ageless.' Thirst and Spell I found to be pretty entertaining...:p...just my opinion of course! :D

Anberlin
03-18-2006, 04:01 PM
Lucy, Krypto, Ageless, Fanatic, Almost all eps in s2, Resurrection

smallvillerocks45
03-18-2006, 04:23 PM
Yep. I stick to my words. I LOVED "Ageless". I saw it a couple of weeks ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it! :D

techie
03-19-2006, 03:19 PM
Everyone has their own opinions as to the worst episode. For me, I will have to say one of the worst episodes was Cyborg.

What made this episode the worst for me was how it was lagging on and on.

On the other hand, it is nice to see that another person with super powers has been introduced in the show.

Sydafex7
03-19-2006, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Yep. I stick to my words. I LOVED "Ageless". I saw it a couple of weeks ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it! :D

Yeah, I'm one of those also who actually didn'y mind Ageless as all. I thought the mention of Level was a nice touch and the Lex scenes were really good. Also, the ending was brilliant with Lex wanting to not release the research about Evan. I also liked the Mrs. Teague/Lionel scenes a lot and it was nice seeing Lionel as his old Bad ass self again. Also, it was the beginning of the restart with Clana and I'm a fan of Clana so that was nice for me.

I will say however, that I agree with a lot of the reasons people have for not liking it, but those reasons don't bother me as much as they do others. It did feel out of place in the seasonal arch, especially so close to the finalie. They should've put it closer to the beginning, but they couldn't because it was a Clana episode and Clana was dead in the beginning of season 4.

I still will stand by my opinion though that Magnetic from season 3 is the worst episode to date.

smallvillerocks45
03-20-2006, 12:59 PM
Yes, I agree with you Sydafex7. Though I've always tried to keep an open mind and have never truly hated an episode...I must say that Magnetic was one of the worst. I just watched it a few days ago, and I find that the more I see it, the less it bothers me, but I tell you, when I first saw it I thought it was, well let's just say, worse than Ageless...

---(moreover)---
Exposed was also so-so. I mean, the best part was that Jonathan decided to run for senator. Other than that, it was just Lois being a stripper...pretty pointless and silly. Couldn't there have been a better reason to convince Wopat's character to not run again (better than him being a cheating man wrapped within a sex/lies/murder scandal)?

Mrs Kent
05-21-2006, 11:59 AM
Thirst, because it was so off-topic, Smallville and more Buffy. BTW, I don't like Buffy!

tobificus
06-16-2006, 12:26 AM
My only criticism is when episodes derail from advancing the plot, a frequent occurrence in season 5.

True, "Thirst" had Lex and Fine have their first real go-round that they would be adversaries but is it instrumental to the season five story line? Not really.

However, episodes like "Aqua" and "Cyborg" are just as guilty, if not worse. These one-offs with characters we'll never see again on the series are pointless. They're essentially in-jokes for the comic book community. The plots on Smallville aren't served by these gimmicks.

Unfortunately it seemed as if the wheels totally came off the truck following "Reckoning". The first twelve episodes, with a lull during episodes 4 & 5, all were focused on Clark losing Jonathan and the Kents versus Lex. Following that the season really beat around the bush advancing the Brianiac plot - that's assuming the writers had any inclination of where they were going.

Episodes 13, 14, and 15 ('Vengeance", "Tomb", and "Cyborg") did nothing for the season. True, we finally see Clark cry, but "Vengeance" was not that spectacular.

To compound that misstep, episodes 16-18 also minimally advance the plot. Lex and Lana growing closer and Brainiac's global exploits are background noise to freak of the week season 1 occurrences.

Eventually Clark's journey towards becoming Superman and the main characters progressing in their relationships returns to the forefront in the last few episodes, but sadly too late.

The tag line "everything you've waited to see" started off wonderfully, but fell back into Joss Whedon-esque writing. A lot of initial promise, very disappointing resolution.

*Just to be clear, I will dutifully watch all 22 episodes of season 6! However, I dishonor my beloved Chloe if I don't call 'em like I see 'em.

MamaK
06-16-2006, 05:47 AM
I voted for Ageless, but I had forgotten about Magnetic and how craptastic it was!:D:D:D Ageless still wins out, but only by a small margin of ka ka!!!:D:D:D:D

1.21 gigawatts
06-17-2006, 10:21 PM
I guess it all comes down to personal opinion. I loved Spell. I hated Ageless. I loved Lucy and the three Alicia episodes. I hated Memoria. All in all Ageless and Magnetic are tied for the worst in my book.

RamonaE
06-17-2006, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
My worst episode list is (this is the order):

1) Ageless
2) Gone
3) Krypto
4) Recruit
5) Lucy
6) Drone
7) Nocturne

I thought Resurrection wasn't that bad. But Ageless was horrendous. Had they not wasted an episode like they did with that one, they could have spread out the content of Commencement more.

Ageless was the worst I think I've seen. The whole Lana and Clark thing as parents was silly.

Lucy was pretty bad. I forwarded through some of the scenes I couldn't take watching it.

Sydafex7
06-17-2006, 10:47 PM
originally posted by xrayvision
My worst episode list is (this is the order):

1) Ageless
2) Gone
3) Krypto
4) Recruit
5) Lucy
6) Drone
7) Nocturne

I thought Resurrection wasn't that bad. But Ageless was horrendous. Had they not wasted an episode like they did with that one, they could have spread out the content of Commencement more.

Resurrection I thought was good also. I loved how we got to see Clark's Superspeed developing into something amazingly fast

Either way Magnetic needs to top everyones list and I don't uknow if people honestly like it, or if they've just forgotten about it, but I don't see how anyone can like that episode. There were no redeeming qualities at all in that episode. Oh well. AN opinion is an opinion...

Ageless isn't that bad to me either. I liked the mention of Level 3 and I liked how Lex decided not to give out the research he found from Evan. I also liked the Jane Seymore and John Glover scenes with the power sturggle over the stone. Those were great scenes and set up the kidnapping in "Forever" very nicely. I didn't really like the whole growing baby thing, but either way Ageless' biggest problem was that it was a filler episode WAAAY to close to the end of the season. At the end of the season, the last 3-4 episodes should the conclusion to the season.

I think Magnetic needs to replace Recruit. I loved recruit because of the lesson Clark learned about football. Also Gone doesn't belong on there for the simple fact that it was the second part of the season 4 premier and it is a great episode to watch with Crusade.

I also like Krypto. It was different than any other episode we had previously seen and I thought it set up the naming of Clark's dog when he's Superman very nicely. I thought it was creative.

Shinzon2004
07-17-2006, 11:38 PM
Thirst and Ageless.Horrible episodes!!!!

clarkiesgirl
09-16-2006, 06:33 PM
i like '''spell'' more than ''thirst'' but i loved wen lana was at the halloween party Chloes outfit was the best lol

glen78
09-25-2006, 06:33 PM
i just watched thirst (in oz we are way behind so i have to wait until the box sets come out to see eposode) i love smallville but i sat there thinking what a load of crap this eppi is.

Acejournalist82
06-12-2007, 10:10 AM
Ageless was REALLY bad. But I think Thirst was awful though.

AlwaysRight
03-20-2008, 01:18 AM
i voted spell, both thrist and spell were bad but at least thirst was a one shot episode while the Lana is a witch plot unfortuntly didn't end at spell.

Both of these shows had a so bad it enjoyable in a warped way, but spell let the badness continue to the end of the season

LoveHurts38
03-21-2008, 09:10 AM
Thirst!!!

Hopefulsuicide
03-21-2008, 09:27 AM
this thread makes me angry

i spent alot of time and energy erasing ageless from my brain, and its threads like this that ruin all that for me

:rotfl:

coco#1
09-19-2008, 10:22 PM
thirst is one of my favorite episodes.the girls were hot and Lana was smokin as well as KK acting her butt off

President_Luthor
10-20-2008, 09:11 PM
This is a favourite of mine too -- as in favourite 'cheese' episode! :lol:

Clark battles a sorority of vampire coeds. Just let that stew in the brain for a few seconds: Clark Kent - dressed as Zorro - battles a sorority house full of ... vampire coeds. And Lana becomes one of them, all toothy and bloodsucky.

No need for Cheez Whiz, this episode gets a Hall of Fame award for mozzarella quality cheese. The episode was wrong on so many levels (with Chloe's SMOKIN' schoolgirl costume being its sole saving grace :p ), yet it's like waiting to see a tornado in action. You know it's going to leave a mess, but what a mess! Yes, it was bad -- but it was a funny kind of bad.

The others listed also richly earned the 'worst' label, but how about "Hypnotic"? Clark gives up the stalking mantle for one show to femme fatale Simone. That ep's got atrocious written all over it!

Hopefulsuicide
10-21-2008, 04:12 AM
i accidentally left my dvd on when i got in the shower... when i came out, ageless had come on...

in my frantic struggle to find the remote i realised that i would actually rather buy new 'ageless free' special edition of the box set than risk having that happen again... just having too see the name on the menu is bad enough

:rotfl:

smallvillerocks45
10-21-2008, 04:31 AM
Awww! You break my heart :( . Ageless was a very nice episode. Yes, the idea of exploding babies is a bit out there, but the subtext of the story was adequate. I really enjoyed this episode... and I guess that's ironic, because even S.D. Knight claims this wasn't the best episode - and he wrote it!

JorEl23
10-22-2008, 03:49 PM
Although the three listed weren't among SV's best...it's Static hands down

disciples of zod
10-22-2008, 07:42 PM
if i had to pick one, thirst was my least favorite out of the three. IMO, spell was flat out hilarious, and ageless was all right.

idk...there needs to be more choices. IMO, there were way worse episodes

~K

smallvillerocks45
10-23-2008, 06:57 PM
I would definitely cite Magnetic and Hypnotic as far worse than the choices listed in the poll above. While I probably would not skip over these episodes during an SV dvd marathon, I certainly would not rate them as my all time favorite episodes either. I love Smallville, but these two episodes nearly drove me crazy.

President_Luthor
11-14-2008, 09:55 PM
Heh, heh -- Magnetic and Hypnotic richly deserve to be at the peak of any SV worst list. Both have a wacky stalker angle: in Magnetic, we actually have Clark stalking Lana on a date and Lana telling him: "Clark, are you stalking me?" or words to that effect. Bad Lana was just that: bad. And in Hypnotic, the tables are turned on Clark and he gets his own stalker in the form of Simone. They thought all the making-out scenes could salvage such a bad story. Oops. Not even a mousetrap's worth of redeeming cheese in it. Hypnotic is easily a contender for the gold or silver medal in any 'Worst' list.

Thirst was awful -- but Great Caesar's Ghost was it fun, and cheesily so. Clark, dressed as Zorro, fights a sorority full of vampire girls. Hey, at least they didn't break the no flights, no tights rule.

lois_lane-kent
12-11-2008, 02:24 PM
Can I write in "Hero" as worst?

Cuz, it was.

Jedimaster_TTBaby
12-11-2008, 02:32 PM
Ageless, Hands down!

ledzepfan23
12-11-2008, 02:49 PM
none of these three were that good but thirst was by far the worst. Lana as a vampire? Come on