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karin
10-27-2005, 03:26 PM
Could all of you who really know Supermans story try to teach me whos brainiac and General Zod ...

James smarters plays who , is he a mean/powerful kryptonian ?
if so he is a lot more human than the man and the women who were with him... and got himself a job/reputation pretty fast..


Also , i guess now we can say Lex is evil , however i must admit i didnt see it coming , there was no real transition was it.. ? what happend to him ?


And by the way I respect a LOT more Lex's behavior than Clark's ,,
Lex seeks the truth/frienship/honesty and Clark looks like he really wants Lex to turn evil , hes doing everything.. lying/hiding,
he should know Lex's DNA and childhood forces him to be very curious , but that doesnt mean he would put him in a lab if he knew his secret ... and EVEN IF HE DID THAT since when SUperman cares about finding himself in a lab surrendered by some green rock. He's really selfish and a hypocrit imo .



I would really appreciate any sorts of comments/response or answers . :)

Summers
10-27-2005, 03:31 PM
Here is a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainiac_(comics)

From what I know of SV's version this is nothing like the comics at all. It mostly comes from the Superman: The Animated Series.

Jack's_Son
10-27-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by karin
Could all of you who really know Supermans story try to teach me whos brainiac and General Zod ...

James smarters plays who , is he a mean/powerful kryptonian ?
if so he is a lot more human than the man and the women who were with him... and got himself a job/reputation pretty fast..


Also , i guess now we can say Lex is evil , however i must admit i didnt see it coming , there was no real transition was it.. ? what happend to him ?


And by the way I respect a LOT more Lex's behavior than Clark's ,,
Lex seeks the truth/frienship/honesty and Clark looks like he really wants Lex to turn evil , hes doing everything.. lying/hiding,
he should know Lex's DNA and childhood forces him to be very curious , but that doesnt mean he would put him in a lab if he knew his secret ... and EVEN IF HE DID THAT since when SUperman cares about finding himself in a lab surrendered by some green rock. He's really selfish and a hypocrit imo .



I would really appreciate any sorts of comments/response or answers . :)

James Marsters plays Brainiac. He arrived in Smallville, Kansas, at the end of Season 4 when the meteor shower covered the entry of that Kryptonian ship bearing those two stupid escapees from Krypton's prison-system. (I think he was a stowaway and the two knuckleheads weren't aware of it) I forget what that flat Null-prison was called in Superman 2 (the movie) and am too lazy to look it up right now. Brainiac is a long time foe of just about everyone because he seeks out the truth and doesn't give a frell who he harms. He's basically a supercomputer that has undegone generational changes and fine-tunings in his persona. General Zod, who hasn't made an appearance yet, (as far as I can tell) is your typical Badass Kryptonian General who thinks he knows best. I believe he was part of the group who tried a coup in Krypton. He was apprehended and sentenced to live endlessly in the Forbidden Zone (that's the name, I think) with the two knuckleheads.

As for Lex's transition, this is what the whole series "Smallville" is about, so I don't see how you missed it. Lex's slow embrace of his Dark Side was started very early in life and underwent traumatic changes through the death of his brother, Julian, the death of his mother, his father's ruthless, constant betrayal and the betrayal of those he loved, including his wife. The only thing that kept him "good" was his love for Clark, Lana, and the Kent family. They've given Lex numerous opportunities to see where he was headed, so I don't see how you can blame Clark. The only thing that Clark has ever done is to keep his secret from Lex and you can't really blame Clark for that. Outside of Chloe, Pete, and his mom & dad, nobody else alive (Alicia died) knows Clark's secret. The fact that Clark HAS a secret is smacking Lex in the face and he's driven to find out. The fact that his best friend, Clark, won't tell him, drives a wedge between the two and as Lex walks the thin line between Evil and Good, he occasionally lapses on either side.

A lot of people have a problem with Clark's seeming duplicity and supposedly hypcritical behavior. I don't have a problem with it. Chloe knows and she shows admirable restraint and caution. (Unlike Pete, who sometimes used Clark to get him out of self-imposed trouble) Do you really expect Clark to tell Lex that's he's something other than a normal adoptee? Ain't gonna happen. Lex can always choose to accept the odd behavior in Clark (which he has said time and time again that he would) but he never seems to live through his promise as each new mystery pulls him in deeper. I don't see any evidence that Clark wants Lex to turn evil. If anything, he's given Lex the benefit of the doubt each and every time. Even in "Aqua", he wanted to give Lex a chance to explain himself.

Hopefully, you can try to see Clark objectively, and realize that his whole life sucks. Yeah, he's super, but like Pinnochio, he just wants to be a little boy. Clark's greatest fear is that he will outlive everyone and be alone all his life. That's gotta suck big time.

Premature Combustion
10-27-2005, 04:41 PM
Kryptonian prison = Phantom Zone

Jack's_Son
10-27-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Premature Combustion
Kryptonian prison = Phantom Zone

Phantom Zone or Forbidden Zone? Why do I keep thinking Fobidden Zone?

PC, (BTW, nice moniker)

I just checked, you're right. It is the Phantom Zone. Thanks.

http://theages.superman.ws/welcome.php

karin
10-28-2005, 05:36 PM
by the way could you tell us what are brainiac motivs and more importantly what kind of power does he have , is he a real theat to superman ?

those 2 kryptonians were a lot more powerful than smarters han ?

Summers
10-28-2005, 05:39 PM
Depends. Watching this episode they altered Brainaic's powers, so he is nothing like the comics really. He's a mixture with a SV twist.

Brainaic is serious threat in the sense he knows everything about Krypton and Lex. What SV did keep is his powerful intelligence. He is far smarter than those two kryptonians, but his strength in the SV continuity that has yet to be seen.

karin
10-28-2005, 05:44 PM
"Brainaic is serious threat in the sense he knows everything about Krypton and Lex."

How could he know about krypton ? what is he ? does he have superstrength/flight ?

but plz dont tell me hes a computer... a computer smarter/stronger than a kryptonian , i hate that thought .

Summers
10-28-2005, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by karin
"Brainaic is serious threat in the sense he knows everything about Krypton and Lex."

How could he know about krypton ? what is he ? does he have superstrength/flight ?

but plz dont tell me hes a computer... a computer smarter/stronger than a kryptonian , i hate that thought .

It's all there in the link I posted. Well, sorta of. AlMiles are going more off Superman: The Animated Series where Brainaic was one of the variables to Krypton's destruction. Brainaic knew Jor-El, and what happened. He essentially has a lot of information that Clark will not know about. Which gives him an advantage. He also knows about Lex as well.

Superstrength? I have no idea since this is SV. Being SV he probably does have it. We will most likely see a fight involved.

He is basically a computer in a sense.

Jack's_Son
10-28-2005, 06:58 PM
Sorry, karin, but it's true what Summers and I are saying. Brainiac IS a computer. If the term "Artificial Intelligence" makes you feel better, than go with that. Check out that Wikipedia link that Summers posted and you can read all you want about Brainiac, including the capture and imprisonment of a Kryptonian city. He's EXTREMELY dangerous. There are several "incarnations" of him and who knows how SV will alter that long mythos.

It appears that SV will make him sort of a "T2: Judgement Day"-type android, only SMARTER. I use the term Android, not to suggest there's anything humanoid in Brainiac, but with his incarnations and off-spring, who knows? Perhaps he's like a "Stargate: SG-1" Replicator. We'll see how he evolves under SV's writers.

Summers
10-28-2005, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Jack's_Son

It appears that SV will make him sort of a "T2: Judgement Day"-type android, only SMARTER. I use the term Android, not to suggest there's anything humanoid in Brainiac, but with his incarnations and off-spring, who knows? Perhaps he's like a "Stargate: SG-1" Replicator. We'll see how he evolves under SV's writers.

I agree. I didn't know how to label SV's version of him. I hope somewhere down the line they will explain how he is able to look human. I was expecting more possession of Fine in the beginning, but not for him to actually look human yet.

Basically I need serious exposition lol.

Jack's_Son
10-28-2005, 07:37 PM
Well, when he oozed out of the ship, I assumed he selected a form that wouldn't draw attention and would allow him to do whatever it is he's going to do. Probably bring doom to this world, since Jor-El told Clark that it's too late, the danger is headed towards earth. Nice choice of Spike, BTW. That is an excellent casting decision. You gotta love Spike, although his real voice is still strange to hear. Anyway, I think a green-skinned Brainiac would have stood out a little too much.