Loved it? Hated it? What did YOU think of "Aqua?"

[ProudPenny]

Please post your general loved it/ hated it /worst/best episode ever types of feedback about the eppy here. Please DO NOT start a separate thread about your general opinion of the show. Thanks!

[asian_power]

Haven't seen it yet its on at 8:00 here.

[Xcalibur]

Its going allright so far.
Arthur is way cooler than Bart.Not to mention way stronger

[Primal Slayer]

I thought this was a good episode, actually liked Lois and Ac together.

The underwater scenes were very good, and I thought that we would see Ac calling on some fishy help during his fight with Clark

But next weeks looks like the usual boring Smallville episode with Lana turning into something suprernatural yet again(how many times has that been done?)

[montevallo]

i thought it was awesome, but i missed the first scene. lex is starting to get really fed up with clark, but for some reason, i really didnt like the scenes between them. was there any ention from lana about clark's resurection?

[Reign]

I really enjoyed Aqua. I thought there were less annoying flaws in it than in Arrivan and Hidden.

Best points:
1) Lois in a bikini. WOW.
2) Alan Ritchson made a very enjoyable interpretation of Aquaman. The character has a fresh modern-day spin. He also carried a rather bratty princely feel to him, appropriate for his royal heritage.
3) Aquaman's orange beater and green shorts. His orange wetsuit at the end was awesome, too.
4) Prof. Fine seems interesting.
5) The Clark and Lois references. Jealousy. "Where am I going to find a guy like that again," said Lois. The look on Clark's face when she and AC were kissing was great!
6) I liked the fact that they stuck to basically four character and didn't have to try to fit everyone into the plot. The eyes were on AC, Lois, Clark, and Lex.
7) JLA and Superboy, references.
8) BEST OF ALL. "I was born with a special gift and I am going to use it to help the world."

Less than best points:
1) I felt Michael Rosenbaum's acting was off. Maybe not enough screen time.
2) The "bros" were a little overdone and Ritchson's acting needs development. However, he certainly looks like a superhero, cheesy smile and all.
3) Clark keeping the secret from Lana still bothers me.
4) Not enough screen time with Lois in a bikini.

[ILoveClana]

One of the worst episodes ever. Especially disappointing since it followed three amazing episodes.

Lois got attached to A.C. way too quickly. She's supposed to be this tough, ridiculously defensive girl, and she's so visibly torn up over A.C. leaving? It could have been the direction, but I thought Erica overacted several times.

And there was no chemistry between Lois and A.C.! That made the situation even worse, because I couldn't believe anything I saw happening between them.

They recycled a few things from Run, which I couldn't stand. Even though this is an episode based on a character just like Bart, it should be original...Run was great, leave it alone. I did like Clark's line about Bart, though. That was cute.

And then the ending with the painfully blatant reference to Clark's future. I've had enough of this! We know what's going to happen later on, we don't need it shoved down our throats 24/7. Worst "Smallville" ending, period. There was absolutely no punch to it.

I really enjoyed the scenes between Clark and Professor Fine. James's doing an excellent job.

And Michael was frickin' amazing. I LOVED the lab scene and the last mansion scene. Looks like he's having a lot of fun.

[loistickyfingerz]

I thought this was a pretty good episode. I liked that it validated Aquaman as not the lamest superhero. Yet, the guy playing him kind of acted on the same level as a piece of wood in my opinion. The less he spoke, the better the scene.

The Lois/AC/Clark banter was awesome! I love how true they stay to Lois' character. Ed does an excellent job of playing her.

Michael was great. I loved Lex in this episode, especially the scene of him monologue-ing to AC. But they brought it back around in the end when it obviously bothered Lex when Clark made that remark. I like thinking Lex hasn't just jumped off the "maybe" edge to "evil mastermind" just yet.

And the last scene...wow! I loved it. I just wished Lois had said a bit more about how much she admired those "heroic" qualities in AC. Clark's line to her broke my heart, but at the same time was great foreshadowing.

That said, being in the fifth season, that line also reminded me of just how much farther Clark has to go before he becomes that man.

7.5 out of 10.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by ILoveClana


And then the ending with the painfully blatant reference to Clark's future. I've had enough of this! We know what's going to happen later on, we don't need it shoved down our throats 24/7. Worst "Smallville" ending, period. There was absolutely no punch to it.



I think you may be alittle biased.

[Kontradiction]

Lame, lame, lame.

I didn't feeling attached to this episode whatsoever. I have a DVR which I use to record all the episodes, but I'm still attached to the couch everytime a new one comes on. This time I went outside and smoked a cigarette and missed the Talon part between Lois and A.C. And I didn't even care.

Maybe it's just because I have no interest in Aquaman whatsoever, or it might be because it looked like a "Run" spinoff.

However, I loved the dialogue between Lex and Clark. Lex is getting increasingly bad and he really showed the dark side in this episode. The guy who played A.C. was alright, but his acting was spotty in some areas. Milton Fine aka James Marsters was awesome in this though. I can't wait to see how he unfolds.

All in all, I would say that this was season 5's first lame episode. Looks like they're following it up with another one next week.

[aqua]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I think you may be alittle biased.

I don't ship anything and I'm sick of this stuff. It really annoys me.

Erm, Alan Ritchson is a horrible actor. It was really wooden. ED and him has absolutely no chemistry. MR's acting was off. Boring story.

[Bluestreak]

I thought the evolution of Clark to The Man of Steel is coming along nicely.
The references to the JLA and Bart/Flash were a nice touch.
I must agree that Lois fell for A.C. a little hard and fast, but apparently, he's got something of an 'animal magnetism.'
Not enough screen time of Lois and Chloe in beachwear.

[ILoveClana]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I think you may be alittle biased.

But the thing is, even if I was a Clois shipper, I believe I would still be cringing at all those moments. It's just too much.

[vanilla_bandit]

I thought it was a very average episode, I expected more after having watched the amazing first three episodes of season 5. I thought the acting by everyone was a little off and the episode itself wasn't that exciting.

[superhippie2000]

i thought the episode was good. james marster did a great job and i like how lex was extremely evil. i liked the underwater stuff. and how they mentioned flash from last year.

[bembol]

It was alright. I'm just happy to see Lois back and looking fine.

Clark & Lex scenes were amazing. I love the ending with Clark telling Lois about one day she will find her hero.

[ClarksNextGF]

Worst Episode Ever !!! And the season was off to such a good start :(

After it was over, all I could think is "that was stupid" There was not one good thing about this episode.

Lois looked sick in a bikini. (sorry guys, but that was nasty)
There was NO chemistry between Clark and Lois. The beach scene was painful to watch. The loft scene at the end was dumb - there was no point to it.
Aquaman was ugly. I know it seems like I am being picky here - but superheros are suppose to be good looking - at the very least average looking. Since everyone else in the town is beautiful.
The "romance" between Lois and AC was all but non-existant. She just yelled at him, then kissed him. At least last year, she did flirt a little when she was yelling at Clark- there was no flirting?
The last time Clark was in the mansion, he beat the hell out of Lex. Now suddenly they are talking? Lex walks over to him to say hi? NO.
The fish/water references were too much. The first couple were funny, but they WAY over did that.
The JLA reference was HORRIBLE. I think that having Aquaman there and bringing up the JLA was a cool idea, but the way they did it sucked. And the delivery was awful (sorry, I love Tom, but that scene was weak)

I feel let-down. The first three episodes of this season were great. I was really looking forward to this. They really could have done alot with the whole "JLA" thing. Instead we get crap. Then the previews for next week showed some vampire thing - which looks to be worse than the witch story last year.

Usually, I really enjoy the episodes that Brian co-writes. This is not giving me alot of faith for the rest of the season.

[Saber]

I thought it was lame w/to many fish lines.
AC was poorly acted and extremely cheesy.
Everyone seemed off, the writing was awful.
It gets a C-

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by ILoveClana
But the thing is, even if I was a Clois shipper, I believe I would still be cringing at all those moments. It's just too much.

I dont ship anything on the show because I think its pointless considering we know the story, but anyway I dont really think that they beat us over the head with references to lois and clark's future. I think there are way more Superman references and those imo tend to get repetitive. They even had them in this ep, Superboy, stay super. I get it, he's superman, this I know. But i dont really think they have overloaded us with clois nods. But thats just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

[Nospam]

My take on the episode:

The good:

- Clark mentions Bart to Chloe (not by name though). Good continuity and shows that Clark trusts Chloe with more than just his secret. Although he didn't mention Bart by name, I assume this was to protect his secret.

- Aquaman had mad powers under the water. I am still a little unsatisfied that they gave him greater swimming ability than Clark (I figured it should be about even), but whatever.

- Lex is truly evil. The scene where Clark mentions that he defended Lex gave him pause.

- Lois in a bikini. Wow! She looked great. I think we're going to need a new term besides Chloevage.

- James Marsters did an excellent job as Dr. Fine. I am really looking forward to the Clark/Dr. Fine plot thread this season.

- Clark beginning to realize the responsibility of his powers.

- End scene between Clark and Lois. I would like to see them become better friends and this seems like the beginning of that process.

The bad:

- Chloe and Lana just disappear mid episode. I understand they have things to do and Chloe probably had to get to back to Met U to start classes as that's what Clark was doing.

- Chloe is more like Clark's girlfriend than Lana with her whining about not telling Lana the secret again. Maybe this was just to remind everyone that it was still the case.

- The romance between Lois and AC seemed a bit contrived and too easy, especially given Lois' abrasive nature.

- Lex is truly evil. I love seeing evil Lex, but I do want him to feel conflicted about it.


The ugly:

- Alan Ritchson's acting. Sometimes bearable, mostly not. "Stay super, bro." That cracked me up!

[nothingwithoutchloe]

After three very good episodes I think this episode was a little bit of a let down. This episode just didn't work as well for me as 'Run' did in introducing a character from the DC universe. I think what we saw from James Marsters in this episode was really cool, but i guess i just didn't really enjoy Alan Ritchson's acting. I did enjoy the little JLA references we got at the end, and also Clark telling Lois how she will meet someone in the future like AC.

[Somebody Stop Me]

This ep had it's good and bad moments. Like others have mentioned that Michael's acting was off......bad. The only time I've ever heard him say his lines that bad was in the very beginning of Onyx where he said one line horribly. However that is the directors jobs to say "Cut! Do it again!".

Lois in a bikini......WORD! Man is she so fine.

Alan's acting was only half decent when he was being hurt.

The story moved along pretty good tonight with Lex becoming more evil and his and Clark's relation is now pretty much over.

Great fight scene and I loved all the references.

[twelfthnight1]

OK, I'm watching this eppy and it's halfway done. I cannot believe this AC. Busting into Lex's mansion and telling him off? What?! I'm not happy.

ETA:

OK, still watching. I love Lex! Gosh, Michael just plays him so wonderfully well. But why no cameras to monitor AC? If only there was a camera. Yet Lex did see two super streams in the water there. Poor Lex. He so knows, but he can never prove what he knows, *sigh*.

I knew I'd like "Run" better. I knew it.

[hyped1]

The Good:
Lois in bikini AWESOME!
Lex being really straight up evil
Clark being protective and heroic and even somewhat jealous for Lois were all great! Brainiac finally introduced and showing he will be complex and difficult foe for Supes/Clark to deal with later on! He is a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, gonn abe hard for Clark to tell when he's being manipulated...awesome!

The Bad:
all the extra fish banter, cheesy dialog, one liners and the need to dress this guy in orange and green all the time(which funny enough is University of Miami colors which he supposedly attends) all bad.
as aforementioned all "bros" references, I guess he's supposed to be like surfer dude?

The ugly:
just seemed like a throw away episode, nothing really thee to move story along.seemd like retread on "RUN" with same lame lets form a team reference to Justice League.

And has anybody noticed how quickly Clark lets anyone with any power know his secret by not holding back and showing his powers? He did same thing with Bart/Flash even though that guy was a petty thief!?!?! And aquaman saw hi, super speed swim within moments of meeting and then hold a bomb to his chest!!! WE know these are future Superheros and friend s of his but HE doesn't! For all he knows they could be FoTW!!!

[Sveta]

Only one good thing:
Michael. He was brilliant. I love evil Lex. He was so Sexy.:p

[Emerald Dragen]

I have to say I just loved this episode! It seems the ones that have recognizable and relavant topics in them are the ones that I love so much more. This was just a very fun episode, all the little things that they mentioned about the aquaman mythos like his dad running the lighthouse , and the JLA, it just makes me chuckle. The whole superman part of all those little eastereggs is even better like the Lois thing and Clark saying she would meet someone even more special. That's just GREAT! I loved it.

Just a thought:



And has anybody noticed how quickly Clark lets anyone with any power know his secret by not holding back and showing his powers? He did same thing with Bart/Flash even though that guy was a petty thief!?!?! And aquaman saw hi, super speed swim within moments of meeting and then hold a bomb to his chest!!! WE know these are future Superheros and friend s of his but HE doesn't! For all he knows they could be FoTW!!!

No matter what, Aquaman saw Clark to begin with so he already knows he had something. But even still, all the freaks of the week would need to know almost constantly because how else would Superman beat them? But another thought would be if these guys are in some way gifted like Clark is, maybe they would keep their mouths shut because the general philosophy shared by all these guys is that they don't want other people to know about their abilities, including Clark. Mutual discovery seems to just be happy coincidence.

[Deviant]

The episode was above average but certianly not the best that we have seen.

Things I loved.

Lois
JLA reference
Clark really becomming the hero that he will become.
Lex and Clark scenes
Prof. Fine was really well done though I think it would have sounded cooler with the british accent.
Mention of BART!!!

Things that I found a bit lacking

AC's acting
Lack of chemistry between AC and Lois

Overall a solid 8 outa 10

[NotTodayPete]

AC had a lot of cheesy lines but the plot was well written and interesting. Lois looked great, never knew she had those curves. Aquaman looked the part and good developments with Clark vs. Lex. Cool JLA reference. Good episode. 8 out of 10 is about right.

[BeepBeep]

The main story arc was decent enough, but this was still a subpar episode and by far the weakest of the season. Random thoughts:

-Ugh, stop using aquatic terms in the everyday sentences. We get it! It is not funny. It is not clever.

-The Clark and Aquaman scenes were painful to watch. It was a never ending parade of blank looks, out-of-place facial expressions and monotonous line readings on both sides.

-Lois, if the guy falls into the water, yelling on dry land isn't going to do anything. Maybe you should, you know, jump in?

-This episode again showed one of my biggest pet peeves about Lois: she is rude even to people who have just done generous things to her. Aquaman just saved your life, you can not be a *bleep* to him for a bit, you know.

-The points I would give the episode for continuity from mentioning Bart was negated by the points it loses for ignoring what happened at the end of last episode.

-Really liked JM, although didn't love him. I think that is probably because I'm so used to his accent on Angel that it felt a bit odd, but I'm pretty sure I'll fall in love with him soon.

-I normally love the allusions to the future (such as Bart's "start a club or a league or something") but almost all of the ones in this episode felt forced and heavy-handed, especially the JLA line by Aquaman and Clark saying that Lois will find somebody even better.

-Lex bending over a tied-up Aquaman is without a doubt the Gayest Look of the Episode.

-I miss the Lex that was a shade of gray, instead of the cliched villain he is becomming.

-Clark, kindly shut up. I don't have a problem with him punching Lex in Mortal, but I was annoyed that he went to Lex asking for favours. It just gave me the impressions that he is blackmailing Lex for his friendship: if you do this for me, I'll be civil to you. On a side note, shut up about lying as well, as you have lied and continue to lie more than anybody else.

-Without revealing anything about next week's episode for people who didn't watch the trailer, please, please, please make it tongue-in-cheek. Pretty please with sugar and a cherry on top.

[username]

I thought is was a pretty good filler episode. I understand that you can't have groud breaking plot twists every episode in a 20+ episode season, so I don't really mind fillers.

I know it's been said, but I must too admit Lois in the bikini was pretty incredible. You know Aquaman was loving those chest compressions.

The second best part of the ep. had to be Prof. Fine. Give it up for Marsters, he did a fine acting job. Alan on the other hand showed clearly that he hasn't done much acting, but I thought he showed promise for improvement.

I know it's been talked about in the actors forum, but man Tom has lost some muscle defenition, and it showed a lot in this ep. Bring back "Exile" Tom, he's probably only about a month or so away if he starts really hitting gym.

[Kreukie]

There were a few things I enjoyed, but mostly it was horrible.

[chrismen]

This was not a filler episode really. I think it showed vital char developement for Clark and Lex, and Clark starting to become more aquainted with Prof. Fine.
I liked this ep but it was not as good as the other three we have had. It was not bad, however. Run was still so much better. I would give Aqua a 7.5/10.

[F-Stop Blues]

One of the things I liked the most about this episode was how the bell didnt ring during the scene with Clark in Class with Fine. That always happens and it bugs the hell out of me. Why bother showing up for class if its over in 30 seconds.

[vyperman7]

Aqua was not quite as good as I had hoped it would be.

On one hand, the episode did a good job showing how much darker Lex has really become, and I like start of the Brainiac storyline with Clark being his research assistant. The reference to the JLA was great. I am actually still in shock that they dropped the anvil like that. "I don't think I'm quite ready for the JLA yet"... LOL

Of course Lois in a bikini was the episode highlight. However, I don't know if you can call that a good thing. Usually you want the story and acting in the episode to outshine, something even as great as ED in a bikini.

The guy who played A.C. was not that great of an actor, and why did they have to have him say "bro" so many damn times? It was funny the first time when Clark called him bro as well. But it got old really fast. I liked what I saw of the underwater battle, but it did not go on for long enough in my opinion.

Was I the only one that thought the hulking up in the water was overdone just a bit... LOL

The forshadowing of Lois and Clark's future together at the end was awesome. Really enjoyed that.

This episode had some stuff in it that I really liked, but it definately did not live up to my expectations. Not even close to how great Run was. Speaking of Run, it was awesome when they refered to Bart.

3.5/5

[LanaandPete]

So how did Fine get by the guards in Arrival

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
So how did Fine get by the guards in Arrival

LuthorCorp doesnt have any guards. :D Their security is somewhat lacking.

[Sydafex7]

Liked the little reference to Bart. That was a little bit of continuity... I guess.

Didnt like the fact that Clark died last episode and NO ONE SAID ANYTHING. I really just wanted a talk between Lana and Clark about this, but whatever.

Is it just me, or did nothing really happen in this episode? I mean a secret weapon got blown up... thats it. So AC got captured and that was a fun scene, but it didnt take us anywhere.

I like where Milton Fine is going. He is very mysterious, but James did a good job playing him. He seemed like a teacher, but at the same time a guy with other motives.

The foreshadowing with Lois and Clark IMO is just done way too much. I still dont get how it will work out. Its obvious she's going to fall for a "nerd in glasses" to quote lois, but in the future if Clark shows up at the planet wearing glasses and being a nerdy guy, shes going to know hes faking it because she knew him in Smallville and he was the complete opposite! The forshadows were funny in the beginning, but now I just think they are getting old. I mean 'I had a dream about a guy in a red cape" What is THAT?? how obvious are they getting here??

The actor playing AC was a complete cliche. We had the gangsta white boy in Run now we get the narly surfer dood in Aqua. Just because he lives in Miami and likes the beach he talks like that? The bro got annoying but was funny when Clark said it back all sarcastic.

The orange and green I liked because it made sense. Those are his college's colors so i was cool with that.

All in all, still better than a lot of the episodes last season. I know a lot of people are calling this a bad filler, but I dont really see that, a lot actually happened to move the season a long. We got the beginning of the Brainiac/ Clark relationship, we got more evil lex, we got Lex calling Clark out on things we've all said he needs to (like the barging in the mansion all the time). Also, did anyone really catch the fact that Lex saw not one but TWO "things" speed away from the sea lab? He also told Clark that TWO thugs sabotaged the weapo. He definitely knows clark helped him.

Wow, Junior Lifeguard assoc?? What the hell is that?? "Not ready for the JLA yet. Why would Clark inital something that A.C. JUST MADE UP?? It wouldve been better delivery if Clark made fun of it by saying the JLA emphasis on the JLA. You know, somewhat sarcastic... But he didnt he said it very straight and it was so cheesy to me, very very forced. Barts was better A club or league or somethin... sounds like something someone would actually say. But a blatant JLA was just weird to me.

Side notes: I was laughing my ass off at the pitchfork line. Lex is friggin histerical(sp) and that line along with some others like his 'WOW you convinced me!!" were just classic evil genius.

All in all, not bad, run was better, but not bad.

Get ready for the "spell" of season 5 next week!

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by Sydafex7


The foreshadowing with Lois and Clark IMO is just done way too much. I still dont get how it will work out. Its obvious she's going to fall for a "nerd in glasses" to quote lois, but in the future if Clark shows up at the planet wearing glasses and being a nerdy guy, shes going to know hes faking it because she knew him in Smallville and he was the complete opposite! The forshadows were funny in the beginning, but now I just think they are getting old. I mean 'I had a dream about a guy in a red cape" What is THAT?? how obvious are they getting here??



I dont think it has been. Did this ep bring it to the forefront? Yes it did. But Lois and Clark havent really interacted since Commencement so its not that in your face imo. I defenitly believe that there are way to many obvious Superman references, specifically when someone calls Clark super. That kind of bothers me, but the clois foreshadowing imo wasnt in your face. And also Lois isnt in every ep so I guess they like to throw in a homage whenever she's in one. I guess if I shipped somethig it would bother me more, especially if it was clana. I kind of felt bad for the clana fans becuase that ending really slapped you in the face.

[djpnutz]

I think it was just a weird episode overall... It felt like Arrival all over again... I liked some parts of it... but others seemed very out of place. This episode would have fit a bit better as one of the later episodes in the season... Especially adding a new hero into the mix. Yes I know that there's got to be a slowdown to all of the arcing plots but this episode felt like it sped up Lex's descent into darkness. During the earlier seasons he would just be talking about how he's been falling and how he's fighting it... but in this episode he seems to embrace evil. I don't know where that came from. Anyways it was an okay episode at best... Very rushed... Please TPTB... If you have an idea that doesn't fit an episode's length just extend the episode and make 2 great episodes instead of 1 really rushed one. Either that or put it in the file and work on a better one.

[Erok-El]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
LuthorCorp doesnt have any guards. :D Their security is somewhat lacking.

How often do people attempt to kill Lex?


Originally posted by Sydafex7
Liked the little reference to Bart. That was a little bit of continuity... I guess.

Continuity is the theme of Season Five

A.C. ruled. I want an Aquaman series.

[Countrygirl]

*sigh*.... and down, down goes the show. *ugh* The writers deserve a slap in the head with a stinky rotting fish for writing this garbage. What's wrong with them? I think some writers should be fired. Why can't all the episodes be good? Why must there be fillers?

The Good:
Brainiac and Clark: Great interaction! Good writing. Fabulous acting!

Lex and Aquaman interaction when Aquaman is tied to the table. "On land, I'm the shark." I liked that...

Aquaman had a nice body and he called Lois on her crap.

The Bad:
Aquaman: The writers made him sound like an idiot. It's hard to see him as smart or take him seriously when he ends his sentences with Bro. I was waiting for him to say, 'Dude or Like or Totally.' Tool? Bro? Come on!

Lois and Aquaman swimming. That's swimming Lois?!? It looked like she was dog paddling not swimming! That was the worst swimming I've ever seen!

Clark and Aquaman confronting Lex. It was poorly written. The acting by Aquaman is laughable. He needs to polish his acting skills.

Clark and Aquaman fighting underwater. You could hardly see what was going on! Once the blows started happening it was good, but less staring and swimming, more fighting!

Aquaman healing and the restoration of his powers. It just looked stupid... poorly acted. It was laughable. When AC put up his arms I thought he was a WWF wrestler that just won a match. I thought he was going to scream, "AAARRRRRGGGG!!!!" It was funny/silly.

The cheesy line of: 'When we're all grown up, let's be in the JLA, blah, blah' Similar to the line Flash used... except Flash had the better line. That was a great line that Flash delivered, but it came out sounding stupid when AC said something similar. AC needed a better line.

The goodbye scene between Aquaman and Lois. After pursing her so hotly why all of a sudden the cold shoulder? Just because Lex is after him? If Lex wanted to catch him, I'm sure he could have, since the goodbye spot was where AC got shot by the dart. If he really liked Lois, he could have arranged something; Lois travels all over the world. It was just poorly written and didn't make sense.

The cheesy scene at the end where Clark tells Lois that she'll find another guy to save the world... *rolling my eyes* Gag me with a spoon. It just sounded stupid.

Why does Clark keep going to Lex? Hasn't he figured out by now that Lex just blows him off?

Why does Lex keep letting Clark into the mansion when all Clark does is whine and berate him? I mean Lex mentions he's getting sick of him barging in, but DO something about it Lex!

The Ugly:
The Lois and Aquaman scenes which don't add anything to the main story of CLARK AND LEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They were trying to put this romance through when it didn't have anything to do with the main story! It was STUPID!!!! It seriously angers me that they write this junk in, when really... What was the POINT??!!??

The Editing... It was terrible. Was it done by a blind monkey? They could have shaved minutes off and put more good story line by not linger over ta-ta's and abs.... not that I'm against the ab showing, but it was just a bit too over the top. Also, throughout the show, it just seemed... choppy. Are they having interns editing their show? What's going on here?

The Storyline: Aquaman comes to Smallville to find out why the fishes in the sea are dying. He finds out that Lex is making some weapon that will destroy submarines and all fish in the sea. Clark and Aqua destroy the machine and "save the ocean." ...ummm... Lex CAN just rebuild it. He still has the plans and I'm sure he can build another weapon, then ask the government to take a look at the trial run again. Lex is one that isn't deterred so easily. If he has his mind set on something, he'll still pursue it... so don't wave your pom pom's in the air saying 'horray we saved the ocean' when it's just a matter of time until Lex builds another weapon.

It just felt like the writers came up with a bunch of story lines that didn't connect or make sense with one another. Everything seemed jumbled up, chewed up and barfed out. Poor storyline. Poor writting. These writers need to go back to school.

I'm so disappointed. It could have been so much better. I wish it would have worked because I think the idea of an Aquaman storyline had potential... it really did. The writers once again screwed it up. *sigh* ... and here I thought the Smallville was going to recover from a horrible Season 4. This episode belongs in Season 4 with the rest of the terrible writing.


1.5 out of 5. I'm being generous... very, very generous because I love this show so much and really hope that it gets better not worse...although after seeing the previews for next weeks show, I'm already worried.

[constancelight]

I didn't mind this episode. It didn't have the magic of the past three but it was decent.

I actually dug the Lois/A.C. fling. I mean, Lois is the type of person to fall head over heels for a man who saves her. Afterall, she falls in love with Superman long before CK.

As for Aquaman's colors, besides being the colors of U of Miami, they also happen to be the colors of the superhero aquaman. Orange on top and Green on the bottom. Which I think are a great combo.

And although, ED has a good figure (a little skinny imo), I think the whole scene with her in a bikini didn't add much to the episode other than drawing in the attention of the male audience watching it. But, then again the reverse can be said of having lots of shirtless/wet scenes of Aquaman.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by djpnutz
I think it was just a weird episode overall... It felt like Arrival all over again... I liked some parts of it... but others seemed very out of place. This episode would have fit a bit better as one of the later episodes in the season... Especially adding a new hero into the mix. Yes I know that there's got to be a slowdown to all of the arcing plots but this episode felt like it sped up Lex's descent into darkness. During the earlier seasons he would just be talking about how he's been falling and how he's fighting it... but in this episode he seems to embrace evil. I don't know where that came from. Anyways it was an okay episode at best... Very rushed... Please TPTB... If you have an idea that doesn't fit an episode's length just extend the episode and make 2 great episodes instead of 1 really rushed one. Either that or put it in the file and work on a better one.

Hmmm, see I didnt feel as if it was rushed. I felt as if there wasnt even enough for one episode.... All they did was sabotage the weapon. I mean, I've watched it twice so far and I still really only think about that one scene. The others I seem to kinda forget about... It seemed very bare to me

I also forgot to add one more thing I really hate that they do: They don't even mention where the kents are!! Nothing. I dont mind them not being in an episode, but they could at least say something about where they are. After last week, It would make sense for them to just be taking a break from everything. They coulda said they were in Metropolis for a couple days just for a little R and R. Something... anything. The way they did it in Blank was perfect. They were in Metropolis for a heart exam... Fine. Now I know. To me, this somewhat made the episode feel bare. I mean in RUN we got the kents. Not a lot, but enough... Oh well. I guess after the great continuity so far this season, this episode felt dis jointed from the others. I was liking how the episodes all seemed to go together so far. They felt in place.

Edit: Just remembered how Lois mentioned Mrs. Kent in the beginning so they obviously arent out of town, so where the hell are they then? Clark's first day of college and no talk about how it went?


Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I dont think it has been. Did this ep bring it to the forefront? Yes it did. But Lois and Clark havent really interacted since Commencement so its not that in your face imo. I defenitly believe that there are way to many obvious Superman references, specifically when someone calls Clark super. That kind of bothers me, but the clois foreshadowing imo wasnt in your face. And also Lois isnt in every ep so I guess they like to throw in a homage whenever she's in one. I guess if I shipped somethig it would bother me more, especially if it was clana. I kind of felt bad for the clana fans becuase that ending really slapped you in the face.

Im a Clana fan, but I know he ends up with Lois. Its not like the end gave anything away. I knew that already.

One Clois reference is enough IMO because we already know they get together, which is why they write these references. They think it's cute. The first one in Crusade was enough in my opinion. To me, they rub it in my face until I'm sick. I dont know, that's just me. I'm not going to be too hard on them because it's hard enough writing something that already has an ending. We know what happens to Lois and Clark and Lex when they leave Smallville, which is why they work the Irony in. The whole Clark hates Lois but will end up marrying her thing is fine, but its just getting old to me, I dont know. Its probably just me.

See, the references I like are the ones that aren't spoken. The "S" on Clark's chest in Dichotic, the grave yard scene in the Pilot where he stands in front of the angel and it looks like he has wings, stuff LIke that is neat and cool to pick out. but like I said, lois' whole line in Commencement about having a dream about a guy in a red cape. That just did it for me. Honestly, what the hell is up with that line??[B]

[dhacker615]

"Aqua" was pretty clearly the weakest episode of the season to date. Now, S5 has been pretty strong so far overall, but this was the first episode that failed to really hang together. Here is how I would break it down:

The Good
- The early Prof. Fine/Clark interaction was very good. It was only a couple scenes and they really gave very little away, but it felt interesting. The idea of a demanding mentor with a dark side is a good one.
- The final scene between Clark and Lex. MR and TW always deliver in their scenes together. TW hasn't really figured out how to hold the center of a scene without saying much, but MR gives him so much to react to that it hardly matters.
- The interogation scene with Lex and AC. It was great to see Lex go all bad for a few minutes.
- The costume for Aquaman and the little nods to his story. The scene at the Talon had a lot of little bits that were fun for those of us who read the comics, but provided some needed backstory for AC. The University of Miami connection was clever.

The Bad
- The actor that they got to play Aquaman looked the part, but was extremely stiff. Looking at his IMDB page, I don't think that he is a remotely experienced actor. They wrote him a lot of tough dialouge with the "Bro" and "save the world". A better actor could have sold the idealistic surfer thing, but not the guy they cast.
- The Lois story felt forced. It seemed like they realized late that it was the 4th episode and Lois had yet to appear. ED brings a lot to the party as Lois. She is good with comedy, looks great in a bikini and has great chemistry with TW. However, Lois Lane has no business in Smallville. Her scenes with AC were contrived and awful.
- The fight scene was really under-motivated. I know the comic book cliche is that any time two heros meet that they must fight, but at least try to make the conflict plausible. Why did Clark 'have a bad feeling about AC' and follow him out to the lake? It made no sense. Once AC was caught with explosives, why didn't he just swim away? Clark made a very big point of how much faster he was in the water.

The Weird
- No mention of Clark being shot in the prior episode beyond a band-aid. Nice reminder of the big talk with Chloe in "Hidden", but still ...
- Nice reference to Bart in the beginning, but why not close the loop at the end? Bart wants to start the JLA. AC wants to start the JLA. Clark isn't sure he is "ready" for whatever reason. Why didn't Clark put AC and Bart together?
- Central Kansas A&M does not sound like an elite educational institution to me. I may be wrong, but I always thought that the Daily Planet was a paper on par with the NY Times or the Washington Post. I also always assumed Clark started to work there in his early-to-mid 20s. To me, elite newspaper does not equal young reporter plus directional school.

[knight150]

I really dont know whats wrong with U guys, cause i though the ep was great. Lois was incredible(wow),and i think the story line between Lois and A.C. just showed that Lois Lane wasnt as stiff and cold as they're making her out to be. They were kinda portraying her like a cold unloveable person. The reference at the end I though was dynamite. Lex acutally being able to play lex luthor, making wepons and torturing people is what hes all about, just kinda a drastic change but he needs to change evil sometime soon, its already season 5. Didnt think aquaman was that bad, i mean he coulda used a little help but it wasnt unbearable. I give it an 8 out of 10.

Lana as a vampire next week, sounds kinda weak but ill just do the same thing i did when she was a witch, just mute the sound and enjoy watchin her body. YEAH

[Liriel]

People may shoot me, but I think it was the best episode of the season. Shocking, I know. Very little Chloe and not a lot of arc work.

I'll start by saying that I watched Justice League (before it was JLU) and came into this episode liking Aquaman. I expected to like this ep, and I did.

Arrival had the horrid Kryptonians (quite dull villians and too easily handled), Mortal also had weak villians, and Hidden suffered from some serious "timing" issues (and a painful morning-after scene). I liked all three, but this one, though it doesn't have the "wow" factor parts that those did, it seemed more consistent straight through.

I liked AC. I was thrilled to see that hero out there saying "I can make the world better." Before this ep aired someone said they wanted AC to show Clark how to be a hero - I thought we saw something of that here. I like the changes from the earlier spoilers - made him more Heroic.

I was sold on the torture scene and the "please" - I was expecting a "please, water" and was thrilled with what we got. Props too, for saying Clark doesn't know anything.

I love Chloe. But her "be a hero" comments are getting a bit heavy-handed. On the one hand, they seem necessary, since Clark can't seem to figure it out herself - and I think they do show good things about Chloe in that I think she'd say the same to herself. Kinda taking the role of the dad from the movie. OTOH, it's getting annoying and a bit repetitive.

I though the AC/Lois relationship worked. They had tons more chemistry to me than Clark/Lois (but I am biased). I like this Lois fine - she just doesn't feel like "Lois Lane" to me.

Clark investigating AC - he really didn't have a reason. You saw a guy with powers heroically save a life Clark and you investigated him for it with no reason for suspiscion - don't you hate it when people do that to you?

Yes, the "bro" did get overdone.

Okay, Clark and Lex absolutely cannot be friends anymore. That ship has sailed. I don't mind it, really, because the "strained friendship" had gotten old.

Rescuing AC - I certainly don't mind the shining muscles AC, but wouldn't it have been just as easy to unstrap him and then help him into the water - less conspicuous too. Or even to unstrap him after you turn on the sprinklers?

I loved Lex's change of expression when Clark said "I defended you."

All in all, I really liked the ep.

EDIT: Don't have a problem with Clark going to Lex the way he did. He's not asking for personal favors - he's trying to get Lex to do the right thing and wreak havok on the ecosystem.

[Crazy4Smallville]

Crazy4Smallville’s Weekly Review

Season 5
Episode 4
"Aqua”

This is by far one of the best episodes of Smallville I’ve seen to date. I think they did an excellent job. This is what Smallville is all about, and it’s about time they got to it. Next week doesn’t look as promising, but I have to say that I really, really liked Aqua.

I’m sure most of you think it’s the Aquaman story line that I’m impressed with, but that’s not what has me beaming this morning. It was great, and I’ll get to the points I really liked about it, but I must give the first portion of this review to Alexander. He made me proud!

There is no way that the Lex that we grew to know over the past few years still exists. Lex didn’t survive the meld; Alexander is all that remains and I for one am glad. My excitement doesn’t come for a love for bad guys, but because I now know that my hero will soon emerge, and I got a small glimpse of him last night.

Lex Luthor wouldn’t have even considered building a weapons system, but Alexander would. Lex wouldn’t have openly tortured AC, but Alexander would find pleasure it in. Lex wouldn’t have been smug with Clark about finding his pitchfork, Alexander would be pleased with the comparison. I think what little bit of Lex there was, finally died, when Clark told him that he had defended him.

Alexander and Clark have now chosen sides. They stand in the rink facing each other, gloves up and waiting for the sound of the bell. I can’t wait. I’ve been anticipating this fight for so long that I’ve already drank my soda, ate all my pop corn and my candy has been consumed. Let the games begin!

The next best thing I enjoyed last night was meeting Dr. Fine (Braniac). James Marsters did such an awesome job, he had me convinced he was a teacher and firmly believed what he said. His facial expressions alone had me mesmerized with every word. I was expecting that familiar British accent, but his American one will do. When he spoke of how Alexander the Great had already accomplished so much at just 18, I instantly thought of our own Alexander. I’m hopeful that it will Braniac who will truly teach Alexander what true warfare is. Wars are not won on strength alone, but on the genius behind the actions. I think Braniac will teach Lex how to truly become one of the greatest criminal masterminds of all time. I can’t wait!

The next thing that impressed me was Chloe clarity when it came to Clark’s role in life. She gets it, and he has just begun to scratch the surface. Clark has a lot to learn from his friend.
Ok, now I’m ready to get to Aquaman. Though he was much more buff than Clark (at the present time) he still a little on the immature side. Clark can learn a lot from him because he already knows what his role is in life, and is working on trying to fulfill it, whereas Clark still doesn’t have a clue. However, he needs to learn a little of the patience and humility that Clark owns. A.C. needs to have a little more tact when it comes to pursuing the things he wants, including women. But, I loved the way he handled Lois.

I’ve always known that Lois uses her crass attitude to protect her heart. She acts tough on the outside, but is very fragile and caring on the inside. The more she fought against A.C., the more I knew she liked him. But, this also set a high standard the next guy to come in her life. One that I’m sure only a Superman can fill.

I loved the way A.C. called Clark “SuperBoy” and mentioned the “JLA” – they were priceless. There were so many little snarky ‘fishy’ phrases littered throughout the episode, one couldn’t help but laugh at how much they went overboard with them. “Swim like a fish”, “swimming with the seals”, “dad runs a place down south”, etc. I could go on. I think I caught all of them through the show, but I’ll watch it again just to get another laugh out of them.

This episode was more in the way of how I’ve always pictured Smallville should be. I’ve waited so long for it to get to this point. This is by far one of my most favored episodes. Does this mean I’m in for a disappointment next week, because the bar has now been set high again? I hope not.


This has been Crazy4Smallville’s weekly review. Till Next Time!

[SWJaggy]

Busy place as always last night, couldn't get in.

Here's my review:

Definately another great episode for season 5. AC is definately a great character. Loved how he was so centered about protecting the ocean environment. If only everyone could care like he does.

The underwater battle between Aquaman and Clark was very cool. Loved that water ball power AC has going on.

Now Dr. Fine: I think he is going to be a great addition to Smallville. He seems like a very unique character. Glad Clark changed his mind about the assistant position. It should be interesting to see where that leads to.

Loved the moment when Clark offered to help AC destroy that soundwave (forgot name of it.) And on the screen that Luthor and his "minions" were watching; all they could see were bubbles as Clark was ripping apart the whole thing.

Not many Clana moment or Chlark moments but it was still good none-the-less.

The moment with Clark and Lois was very touching. Funny how the guy who Clark says will be much better than AC is standing right next to Lois.

Scale of 1-10 this one definately gets a 9.5

[SmvilleTeacher]

I didn't have high expectations for this episode but I must say it was a pretty darn good episode. I still liked Hidden & Mortal better - but pretty good.

I loved that Brainiac/Prof. Fine is a history Professor as I also teach history. I haven't seen anything on tv where they describe the study of history more correctly. I tell my students that history is all about interpretation. JM seems to be doing great in this role. I never watched him as Spike as I avoided his previous shows but my husband loved that he was so different. It shows he has great depth as an actor.

I enjoyed that Clark is learning that his powers can be used on a much bigger plane. Superman is about saving the world not just his friends and Smallville.

I totally understand Lois falling for AC so quickly. Lois is supposed to be tough and abrasive on the outside but soft and mushy on the inside. Look at how she falls head over heels for Superman.

As for Lex, I do think that they made the leap of evil for him a bit quick. He didn't seem so bent on evil in the previous eps. He was getting there though. I mean I was expecting it, but it seemed rushed. But I totally loved the pichfork remark as well. And he smiled so big after he said it. He never smiles like that. It was great, oozing with evil. I laughed really hard.

Lastly, I don't mind all the cheezy comments that refer to the future. That is how this show is. It is based on a comic book world. JLA!! LOL!!! And the Lois and Clark in the barn at the end was great. When Clark told her that she would find someone even better in the future, I was like 'and it's me.' (Speaking for Clark).

Overall, I have really enjoyed this season. I look forward to the rest. Although, I am a bit worried about next weeks ep. Time will tell.

[MidgardDragon]

I was half asleep when I watched it, so I'm not gonna post a more detailed opinion until I watch it again. For now, here are my pros and cons:

Pros - Lois's bathing suit, Professor Fine, Clark deciding to join Professor Fine in finding out the truth about Lex

Cons - Not enough Chloe (or her Chloevage), the actor who played Aquaman couldn't act (he just sounded like he was delivering lines, not in-character at all), Lex was a little too over the top with his evil too soon.

Non-episode related - Next week's episode looks both good in that it'll actually be a Halloween type episode (and it's been forever since I've seen a show I liked do a Halloween episode), and bad because it looks like more filler. Hopefully they'll be enough plot-advancing stuff in it like there was in Aqua to make it a good epi.

(I'll return with better opinions after I rewatch the episode.)

[ruach]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
[B]Pros - Lois's bathing suit, Professor Fine, Clark deciding to join Professor Fine in finding out the truth about Lex

Cons - Not enough Chloe (or her Chloevage), the actor who played Aquaman couldn't act (he just sounded like he was delivering lines, not in-character at all), Lex was a little too over the top with his evil too soon.

Non-episode related - Next week's episode looks both good in that it'll actually be a Halloween type episode (and it's been forever since I've seen a show I liked do a Halloween episode), and bad because it looks like more filler. Hopefully they'll be enough plot-advancing stuff in it like there was in Aqua to make it a good epi.

I'm female and straight so Lois's bathing suit ? OK
Watching Clark go down the garden path with professor Fine. Cool. Lex is making it very easy for Clark to go against him.

The actor who played Aquaman did seem a bit too surferish at first but the torture scene redeemed him ( water, please Please-with neck distending in pain and thirst)

If Steven DeKnight wrote that one it should be excellent. While few Halloween episodes hit the mark in series television, Buffy had one or two that were outstanding. I don't know how much advance they could do with the over-all arcs but a bit more character development might happen.

James Marsters~Harry Dresden-Magical (http://www.buzzymultimedia.com)

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by ruach
I'm female and straight so Lois's bathing suit ? OK
Watching Clark go down the garden path with professor Fine. Cool. Lex is making it very easy for Clark to go against him.

The actor who played Aquaman did seem a bit too surferish at first but the torture scene redeemed him ( water, please Please-with neck distending in pain and thirst)

If Steven DeKnight wrote that one it should be excellent. While few Halloween episodes hit the mark in series television, Buffy had one or two that were outstanding. I don't know how much advance they could do with the over-all arcs but a bit more character development might happen.

James Marsters~Harry Dresden-Magical (http://www.buzzymultimedia.com)



They were *my* pros and cons, I didn't say they applied to everyone. Lois was hot this episode, so she got put on the pro side.

[lilo]

Overall, didn't care for it. I'm sick to death of them playing up the supes references. Especially with Lois. That last scene in the loft was cheesy when it could've been sweet. HATED Aquaman. Awful actor, plus his teeth were blinding. It seemed they really tired to do almost a carbon copy of last season's Flash storyline, but it just didn't work. At least Kyle whats his face was an impressive actor.

[Space_Ninja_3000]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
[B]Liked the little reference to Bart. That was a little bit of continuity... I guess.
One thing I would like to see more of in this show is continuity and attention to the history of the characters & events in their dialogue/plots. It seems the elements introduced in the episodes are designed only to drive the plot of that one episode. For example, Leviathan: it would've been much more effective if there had been some scenes setting up this project somewhere in the first three episodes of this season. These scenes could've:
1. Established what the weapon is & who is involved in it (the female scientist, the military/govt. officials, etc.)
2. Provided a better background introduction to A.C. For example, a scene involving an attempted sabotage by some radical environmental group or perhaps a mention that a research team from the U. of Miami is conducting tests around Crater Lake. Point is, his arrival could have been made less arbitrary and forced. Many things like this only require a few sentences of dialogue and could have easily been slipped within any of the many scenes with Lex dialogue.

Because none of this happens, I feel like Leviathan has no value to the series storyline except to serve as a prop to propel the point of the episode: Aquaman meets Clark Kent. Once it fulfills this function, it has no further use to the show. What a waste. Lex's involvement as a military contractor could provide the opportunity to introduce two new regular peripheral characters to the show: a Lex Corp. scientist type (like the woman in this episode) and a military administrator type. Both characters could be used from time to time to move along story lines that involve Lex Corp. research and weapon systems. This show definitely needs more re-occuring peripheral characters: like the sheriff, the linguist from season 2, Lex's first wife, etc. I really thought Lois' father, the general, was going to become one such character. Having these kinds of peripheral characters is good for two reasons:
1. It helps keep a focus on continuity
2. Saves time of having to introduce totally new elements again and again for each new episode. Imagine if the female scientist and Lex had 2 minute scenes in 'Mortal' and 'Hidden' where they set up Leviathan, what it does, and that the U. of Miami had sent a research team w/students to study the Lake. This would've opened up more time to explore other things in Aqua--instead they had to use time to explain Leviathan and why A.C. was in Smallville, etc. etc.



Didnt like the fact that Clark died last episode and NO ONE SAID ANYTHING. I really just wanted a talk between Lana and Clark about this, but whatever.
Agreed. I did like the scene where Lois kept pursuing A.C. about his injury and he used a line like "Can we just drop it." This seemed real to me, and that was just a bloody ear. Last episode Clark got shot, disappeared after dying, and came back with his clothing all burned up...and nobody even mentions it? I don't buy it.



Is it just me, or did nothing really happen in this episode? I mean a secret weapon got blown up... thats it. So AC got captured and that was a fun scene, but it didnt take us anywhere.
Not only that, but it's really disappointing when they've introduced many story elements that could be developed into interesting aspects of the show but just get left on the shelf. Why haven't we seen Clark talk to his parents about Chloe, why haven't we seen the Kents talk to Chloe to establish their relationship, why haven't we seen Clark show his parents the FOS, why haven't we seen the General and Lois interact to explain why she is hanging around Smallville? Why haven't we seen Lex interacting with characters in Lex Corp. to explain his motivations/ambitions? Remember in season 2 there was a continual confrontation between Lex and Lionel over control of Lex Corp? What's been going on there since Lex won and Lionel got sent to prison? This could've been mined for a bunch of stories helping to explain why Lex turns into a villain, but we have heard almost nothing about it since Lionel went to prison and got out last season. Lex becoming the sole owner/president of Lex Corp. was a great opportunity to explore his descent into darkness that has been utterly ignored.



The foreshadowing with Lois and Clark IMO is just done way too much.
Enough with this.

So what did I like about the episode?
1. The scenes with A.C./Lois/Clark/Lana. I really enjoyed seeing Clark harrassing A.C. and the ladies disgusted with Clark; this was like a Smallville first, but it was a bit of realism that I think the show needs.
2. A.C./Clark scenes: the fight scene was fun and I thought their conversations did allow for the seed of A.C.'s idealism to be planted. It did seem odd that neither asked the other the extent/origin of their powers though. It would've been interesting if a character was introduced who is a normal human with great idealism that inspires Clark--some kind of martyr-like character who gets killed trying to make a real difference in the community/world etc. It's clear that his parents provide him with his good nature, but certainly the idea of this duty to protect the world and fight for justice needs to come from someone else--this is hinted at with Aquaman but I think they need to have one more character who really pushes it over the top for Clark. Dr. Swann would've been a great one, but perhaps they can come up with someone else who has this impact on him: Clark's Obi One if you will.
3. Clark's research assistantship: Since their friendship is pretty much ruined (although, it's disappointing there wasn't a key seminal event to encapsulate why), the story line about him researching Lex Corp. will hopefully lead to some dramatic situations. Maybe the series should ultimately end with Lex being the reason why Clark decides to create Superman. Kind of the guilt complex seen in Spiderman losing his uncle. At any rate, this idea has a lot of potential as it ties Clark/Lex/Lex Corp./Brainiac together very neatly.

That's enough for now.

Oh yeah, my one gift idea for the writers:

Introduce one more superhero: wondergirl. Then have a show way down the line where Clark gets into serious serious trouble, like facing a new supervillain (Brainiac?), Lex Corp. kidnapping him, or going under red kryptonite again. The Flash, Aquaman, and Wondergirl then unite to help save him. That COULD be really fun and cool if it was planned very well and not forced and contrived. It could a big two-parter. An easy way to do it would be to have flash drop in for a visit bringing Wonder Girl with him--as he met her on his travels--when trouble falls on Clark during the visit. Then work in Aquaman getting involved. At any rate, one more superhero is the limit--no mas after that. A female character would be excellent balance therefore I vote wonder girl. Maybe get Linda Carter to star in the episode as well.

[sunshine1973]

not a terribly bad episode... said and done

[LaraofKrypton]

Well, I liked it but not as much as I have been liking season 5 so far...I thought it was kind of slow.
I really liked the Lois and Clark scenes. You can tell that they have at least thought about each other as not "just a pain in the butt", even though they would never admit it or dwell on it right now.
I liked the Lex torturing AC scene...you could tell MR was having fun being evil Lex! ;)
Anyway, it wasn't the greatest, but I didn't think it was the worst show ever...that would be Ageless! IMO, anyway :D I think I'm dreading next weeks epi...

[ImissVancouver]

I LOVED it! Alan Ritchson makes a great Aquaman!

I liked that Clark and A.C. teamed up, the underwater scene was wicked! Overall, great episode!

and Brainiac , they really made a great choice in casting James!!

is there anyone out there that LOVED it as much as my boyfriend and I did???

[Kryptomaniac]

LEX STOLE THE SHOW AWAY FROM AQUAMAN. MR was awesome in his eppy. I know it was suppose to be an Aquaman show, but the Lex scenes were my favorites. MR's face when Clark told Lex he had "defended" him. WOW. But, of course, that didn't stop Lex from going over to computer and pressing the button which might lead to the killing of billions of little fishies. And GOOD: the scene where Clark asks Lex about the "kelp project" after Lex has just lost a billion dollars when the Leviathan weapon was destroyed. Gritty. HA, if I was Aquaman I'd listen to Clark and lay low for a while because Lex is PO'd.

I immediately liked the Prof. Fine character. What? I'm LOVING Fine and HATING Jor-El? Something wrong with this picture.

I've never been able to open my eyes under water so those scenes really impressed me. And I like the way they did the Aquaman character, making him as big and brawny as Clark and treating him like a altruistic superhero instead of a FOTW. It worked very well and I hope he comes back in the future.

BUT LEX STOLE THE SHOW.

Rating 4 out of 5 mainly because there wasn't any memorable music in this show and it needed some.

[clark25]

I liked this episode a lot to and I noticed
some refernces to a future Justice Leauge
to.Anyway I thought this epy was very
well done and the underwater effect
were perty neat.And to I noticed lex
to becoming more evil also.And I am
surprised also that Lex and Clark our
still talking after the big fight and all
that.And to whats with Clark teaming
up with Braniac to invastgate Lexcorp
maybe all that will play out during the
course of the season.And to I thought
that James Masters done a great job
at playing Brainac to bad he could not
have done the voice over of him on
S:TAS and Justice Leauge but anywho
back to Aqua in all a great episode

[Paquinero]

Loved it!

[supergurl88]

i loved it! i love A.C's little quotes...
"Wet & Ready Bro" & "Stay Super Bro".
Lex was soo evil....i love it.

but whats with james voice? it sounds weird

p.s. welcome to the boards paquinero

[Conduit]

Smallville Still Sucks

Many fans seem to feel that this current season of Smallville (its fifth) has improved greatly but I disagree and the Aquaman episode makes me realize I’m right.

Aquaman:
As usual, the SV producers (possibly on WB’s orders) still have a, “Let’s get someone who looks like a model” mentality when it comes to casting. I don’t care what his past or future credentials may be, but Alan Ritchson didn’t bring anything to the role of Arthur Curry except muscles and an annoying college-dude way of saying “Bro”. He didn’t act like a king (or someone being groomed for the throne) and I’m not talking about the lines the character spout off about saving the world but rather, the way the actor delivered said dialogue.

As for the character itself, well a more appropriate name might’ve been ‘Assman’ considering how much time he spent going after Lois. I don’t care how you slice it, but it doesn’t reflect well on a character if they spend as much time trying to score a booty call as they do trying to stop a weapon that’s supposedly going to destroy all life in their world (the sea), but apparently the noble Assman can do it all. He didn’t have his priorities in order. Lame.

Lois Lane, Chloe Sullivan & Lana Lang:

Lana, Lois and Chloe all did something that was unforgivable but I’ll get to that in a second.

First things first: The best thing I can say about ED’s performance is that I enjoyed seeing her in a bikini, but as for the character of Lois – it seems she’s joined Lana in the, “You saved my life but don’t expect a Thank You”, club. I couldn’t believe how ungrateful the writers (and ED’s portrayal) made Lois in the scene at the Talon (where Lois first spoke to Assman after he saved her life). I’m not sure what dynamic TPTB were going for in the Lois/AC relationship, but all they succeeded in doing was making Lois come off as a selfish witch. (Small note: I loved the scene where Arthur was in obvious pain and fell backwards into the water while Lois just stood there and didn’t think of jumping in after him).

I didn’t care for the character of Lana too much before but I never hated her until last season with the whole, “I’m back from Paris with a tattoo, boyfriend and witch’s soul”, storyline, but I officially hate this character now and that’s partly due to the bit below.

Now for the unforgivable rant – Lois, Lana and Chloe were written in a way that makes you realize that none of them (nor TPTB) can remember or care about the past actions of characters. If ever I wanted proof that SV is nothing more than a series of one-shot episodes and not a dramatic series, this was the ep that sealed the deal for me that SV will not change.

Go with me here – for four years (one for Lois), Clark has saved all three of the girls asses countless times. Not only has he looked past all of their flaws, betrayals and overall stupidity (which usually puts him in the position of having to save them), but he’s also taken them back as friends without question or conditions and in the case of Lois, doesn’t raise a word of rejection when his parents offer her the opportunity to live on the farm. While Clark isn’t perfect, he’s a damn saint compared to regular people and he’s never, ever treated someone with suspicion without reason. Yet the moment he seems to be suspicious of a guy no one knows anything about, did any of them give Clark the benefit of the doubt? No. Did any of them pull him aside and ask why he didn’t seem to trust Arthur? No; they all treated and admonished him like he was some sort of possessive brother and in the case of Chloe, she actually suggested that Clark was envious of someone else stealing his “Hero” thunder. IMHO, any and all insight or bond Chloe may have had with Clark was destroyed with that one line. If she really believes Clark is capable of that level of pettiness after knowing him for most of her life, then it stands to reason that she doesn’t know him at all and I’m shock the writer[s] of this episode didn’t realize that when he/she/they wrote it.

TPTB had the girls view Clark as if he was jealous but then didn’t follow-up on the ramifications of them thinking that. If Lois, even for a moment, thought that Clark was jealous of Arthur, does that mean she believes Clark has feelings for her, and if so, how does she feel about that and would she go back and live with the Kents?

Wouldn’t it greatly concern Lana that Clark appeared to be so jealous of Arthur? Shouldn’t she have wondered why Clark was behaving the way he was and sought him out to ask why? Sure it doesn’t mean Clark would’ve told her anything, but that shouldn’t stop her character from asking him.

If Chloe believes Clark can be that trivial, then how can she view him as a hero? I refuse to accept the reasoning that the girls viewed Clark as acting like the so-called typical guy because Clark’s never behaved that way towards them and he’s not presented that way as a character so there’s no basis for the girls dismissing his jealousy like that. The very idea that Clark Kent would be suspicious of Arthur Curry should’ve sent serious warning flags to each girl and it didn’t. That’s just dumb and inexcusable writing on the part of TPTB, but you do get used to that watching SV.

Clark Kent:
Clark was his usual quick-witted self. The scene that best illustrated this is when Clark chases down Aquabro who himself got confused and thought he was the character Ryu in the videogame ‘Street Fighter’ and hits Clark with some sort of waterball that sent Clark reeling but of course didn’t hurt him. Clark, now assuming the persona of Rayden from ‘Mortal Kombat’, came back with a super doublepunch that was so powerful, Aquabro was able to stop himself dead in his tracks (because he’s great with water you see). So then Aquaryu starts creating another waterball, this one even more powerful than the last because he saw that Clark isn’t some Baywatch reject, and as he slowly forms this ball, Clark watches him not making a move. Aquaryu continues to form the ball as Clark just floats there with apparent admiration on his face and then when Aquaryu finishes forming the ball, he shoots it at Clark who for a moment forgets he has super speed and allows the waterball to hit him thereby sending him out of the water, onto land and allows Aquabro to get away.

You can’t buy that kind of logic. This was right up there with Clark forgetting to use his X-Ray vision to find out which person pocketed the stone in the ‘Crouching Smallville, Hidden Isabelle’ episode from last year.

The Episode:
Boring. TPTB continue to use appearances by DC characters (The Flash, Aquaman) or casting stunts (James Masters) to create buzz for the show rather than focusing and concentrating on fleshing out and developing the characters, relationships and plots they already have in place.

Clark/Chloe vs. Clark/Lana:
Even though I think TPTB tried to destroy any insight Chloe may have had into Clark’s persona with that “thunder” line, I don’t know if they realize that by having Clark have heart-to-heart conversations with Chloe and not his girlfriend Lana, they’re inadvertently building a Clark/Chloe ship and neglecting the Clark/Lana one. From a storyline standpoint, it’s fascinating to see Clark have intimate talks about himself with a girl who’s not his girlfriend, but it’s ultimately pointless if Lana is still going to be presented as Clark’s dream girl and the be-all, end-all of all females. If these talks don’t strengthen, and I mean truly form a mature bond between C/C, then they’re nothing more than scenes of exposition. Too bad too, because Welling and Mack have chemistry and I, like most SV fans it seems, think that TPTB are missing a goldmine in not going with a Clark/Chloe pairing and I’m not a shipper of any kind.

10 Aqua Episode Nitpicks:

1. I know Arthur was posing as a swimmer, but the tanktop, swim shorts and flip-flops look got real old fast.

2. Lex suspected that water gave Arthur his power so with that in mind, where did Lex keep his water-powered fishy prisoner? Where we’d all keep him - right next to water and under a sprinkler system.

3. While I truly respect both AM and KK for not allowing their bodies, and themselves, to be used as sex objects in the beach scene at the beginning, I also don’t think a modest one piece bathing suit would’ve hurt. Instead they wore something from the ‘June Cleaver’s in the kitchen cooking’ line of swimwear.

4. Four words: Magnificent Luthorcorp Surveillance System (I never knew Clark was invisible to cameras).

5. I’m a guy. I don’t want to watch an hour of a guy’s abs, chest and eyes. I’m sure the ladies liked it, but nothing makes me change the channel faster.

6. Brainiac is from another planet and his first target on earth is to go after someone he considers to be an evil person in a position of power to affect the world - a young Lex Luthor. Not Lionel Luthor. Not the WB executives. Not J.K. Rowling, but Lex Luthor. Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

7. Clark returned from the dead last week and there’s no follow-up on Lana’s part as to how that could happen.

8. “Hey Lana, Chloe…where are you guys attending college?”

9. Lois is back living on the farm for no reason whatsoever.

10. Inappropriate ending. At the episodes climax, the music, tone, atmosphere and general projection of the actors made it seem like they were foreshadowing an upcoming crisis when it was nothing more than the eventual coupling of Lois and Clark.

Btw, the upcoming ‘Vampire Sorority’ episode looks atrocious. You hope it won’t take itself too seriously and be campy horror fun, but I get the feeling it’s going to be just plain o’ bad.

[MidgardDragon]

The whole season sucks because of one bad episode? I've got an idea, if you don't like this show, as you obviously don't if you're going to insult an entire season based on one episode, then stop watching. It will save you the time of telling everyone how much it sucks.

[Conduit]

The whole season sucks because of one bad episode? I've got an idea, if you don't like this show, as you obviously don't if you're going to insult an entire season based on one episode, then stop watching. It will save you the time of telling everyone how much it sucks.

As a viewer, I have every right to criticize SV, TPTB, the direction of the show, etc., as I see fit. Thanks for your obviously well thought-out and constructive rebuttal though. :cool:

Here's Your Sign.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Conduit
As a viewer, I have every right to criticize SV, TPTB, the direction of the show, etc., as I see fit. Thanks for your obviously well thought-out and constructive rebuttal though. :cool:

Here's Your Sign.

HAHAHAHA! You're hilarious! *rolls eyes*

Listen, try to seriously read my post this time. You have every right to criticize, I never said you didn't. I did, however, say that you jumped to an extreme conclusion by saying that the whole season sucked because one episode was bad.

I suggested that you don't watch the show if you hate it so bad, because why would you watch something that you hate?

Your post leads me to believe that while you have no problem criticizing and jumping to extreme conclusions without any basis in fact, you can't take being criticized yourself without immediately attempting to insult the intelligence of the person doing the critiquing.

PS: Here's *your* sign.

[Conduit]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
[B]HAHAHAHA! You're hilarious! *rolls eyes*

Listen, try to seriously read my post this time. You have every right to criticize, I never said you didn't. I did, however, say that you jumped to an extreme conclusion by saying that the whole season sucked because one episode was bad.

Then you obviously didn't read my post as I never said the whole season sucked. I said Smallville still sucks. It's the first line of my post.


I suggested that you don't watch the show if you hate it so bad, because why would you watch something that you hate?

No you replied like any fanatical fan would - without a good point to make and trying to silence me.


Your post leads me to believe that while you have no problem criticizing and jumping to extreme conclusions without any basis in fact, you can't take being criticized yourself without immediately attempting to insult the intelligence of the person doing the critiquing.

I didn't jump to any extreme conclusions and the fact that you're trying to make it seem like I did is sad. I gave a point of view and then backed it up with facts. You're welcomed to disagree with me if you wish, but it was my opinion of the episode. You're the one who tried to silence my POV.

[MidgardDragon]

The first sentence followed by the first paragraph is what I'm focusing on here.


Smallville Still Sucks

Many fans seem to feel that this current season of Smallville (its fifth) has improved greatly but I disagree and the Aquaman episode makes me realize I’m right.

First off, you say Smallville Still Sucks. Well, that is to suggest that Smallville currently sucks. It is currently Season 5, which is to suggest that you think Season 5 sucks so far. We've only had one bad episode and you believe this based on that? I don't get it sorry.

Secondly, you *obviously* need to go back and read some of my old posts. I *have* agreed when Smallville has sucked. I *do* believe *this* episode was sadly lacking. Calling me a fanatical fan is WAY over the top. You reacted like everyone does when they're criticized, you insulted the person that was criticizing. Instead of coming up with a decent rebuttal that lacked insults. Way to go. :rolleyes:

[nexttolastsonofKrypton]

Well all I didn't expect to see a war of words here, but to each their own.

I have mixed feeling about this one. I feel that the appearance of Aquaman was more of a distraction than anything else. The scenes with Clark and Lex made me feel the rift between them expanding. Prof. Fine quietly made his way onto the scene as well. I do think the main story was a bit clunky, but the back store covered some ground. The JLA comment was weak, sorry had to say something.

Let's wait and see what happens, I was not totally behind every episode last season. However, I had faith that in the end I would be happy with the direction the show was heading in, and I was. I'm not going to make any snap judgments, I'm going to sit back and see how it all plays out.

Can't we all just get along?

[boywithbluehanger]

I think everyone is just overly critical of this episode. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. "Aqua" is basically a filler episode in that one story arc ended already and another is about to begin in a few episodes. The intention of this episode was to introduce two well known DC charactersand reinforce the antagonism of Lex.

We as fans and even viewers should not expect great acting, although it isn't asking much it seems. Lets admit it, on the first season of Smallville Tom Welling definitely has his share of horrible moments on camera. The guy plaing AC is just as fresh as Tom was. C'mon we stuck through the first season of SV knowing that Tom may not be the kind of Clark we'd like to see and he IS the show!!

....I do apologize this is my first time posting anything at all so if you hate me, its probably bc I have no clue how to well express myself lol

[Lexgirl33]

i thought it eppy was okay. Definatly not the best but not the worst

[MidgardDragon]

I did think AC's acting sucked, but after reading boywithbluehanger's post and thinking about it, TW's acting *was* as bad as the guy who played AC, way back in S1. I shudder when I watch S1 episodes, he was just sooo new. Luckily he grew into the part fast, but I bet Alan would have done the same given the opportunity to continue playing Aquaman.

[boywithbluehanger]

hahahaha welcome to the dark side...oh wait we're in kryptonsite.....hmmm...

welcome to luther corp

[bustersz]

Given the huge events in hidden, i felt like the writers should have taken the time to have some ppl question ck about his resurrection. Lois comes back to smallville after the summer away and not even a wise remark about it?

As for Aquaman, his character was alright and served a purpose in showing clark the evil lex, but the acting was... well not the greatest.

I did like the whole professor Fine intro and am interested in seeing how he further drives the wedge between clark and lex.

[ms.c.]

This was a dramatic decline in quality after the first episodes this season.

Aquaman and ED have great bodies. Like REALLY great bodies. BUT they had no chemistry at all. They did a very bad job in their scenes. They were off and awkward in every scene they were in. They need to hire an acting coach.

Lex and the Clex scenes were interesting. I liked how MR did his "pitchfork" line.

Too little Chloe. And no followup as to what Clark's explanation was to Lana? How convenient of the writers to just forget about that.

Professor Fine was good. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him as per spoilers.

Finally, as someone who loves Chloe and strongly feels that Chlois SHOULD HAPPEN, I was very, very sad about the last Clois anvil scene. I was shaking my head wondering what they are thinking. ED's character is a lost cause. She's not *MY* Lois Lane and she never will be. Her underachieving and freeloading ways annoy me too much for me to ever admire her. I regret so much tptb don't see that Chloe has the right stuff and ED's character doesn't.

[cmgames]

I was really looking forward to this episode and it didn't disappoint. This for me was the eppy that got us looking forward to this Season not backward. I can understand why some people are disappointed with this episode but you got to take into consideration 1 was the continuation of last season, 2 he became mortal and 3 he died. Storyline wise, 1-3 have been very heavy on the head so I was glad this one was more light hearted.

If they had placed this one anywhere in the middle of the season for example, I'm sure the reviews would be that much more positive. Also, unlike most people I did enjoy A.C, he might not have been a great actor but he did a good job. He played a typical A-merican Jock character and he portrayed it well, people I think just can't look past his jaw:D

I really enjoyed Clarks incessant questioning of AJ, the looks Lana and Lois kept giving each other and Lois's quip about Clark, it was fun stuff. A more relaxed Lana is a better Lana, also Chloe getting less time worked very well for me. I was getting irritated with her, like because she knows his secret its like her way in to be close with Clark or something. It just irks me also with her need to know it all attitude but I won't dwell she wasn't in it for long.

Good stuff with Lex, he didn't even care that some fishies would die, you know when that happens he really is evil. Maybe he'll use that pitch fork he was talking to Clark about to eat some Salmon for tea. Also, he saw two fishes swim away, so one was A.C, who'd be the other one Lex? Well I must say I don't like how Lex can know that Clark has powers but Lex is such a great character he keeps it enjoyable regardless.

I did not really have a problem with Lois falling for A.C in such a quick space of time, this is SV afterall, Alicia anyone? Anyway, I was beginning to wonder if Lois was asexual because when it comes to guys, well she has shown no interest in them. Lois has been portrayed as quite the tough character with a hard exterior so it was good to see she can actually fall for someone. So it seems she has a thing for people "who want to save the world" that and the fact A.C saved her life are probably good enough reasons for her to fall for him in such a short space of time. I know it's TV and all but these moments have been done alot worse than that before, alot worse.

I almost forgot Milton Fine, Spike was another brightspot to the show which helped us move forward this season. Did the black blob really come all this way to become a lecturer at Met U? Surely not! He already knows an awful lot about Lex Luthor and he even wants to write a book on him, I wonder if he is a best seller where he comes from! What evil deeds does Professor Fine have instore for Clueless Clark I wonder and I'm eager to find out.

Speaking of Clueless Clark, the one thing that did piss me off was how he goes on about him being so naive but there he is, already written his own thesis on good old A.C. A.C had not one bad thing to say about Clark, even after the interrogation and everything. Even offered Clark free membership into his new club thats how nice A.C is and of course Clark declined. Not only that but he has the cheek to give him a backhanded compliment to Lois saying he maybe got it wrong about him after all, calling him "misguided" in the process. Yea, yea so he was going to blow up something, but remember this Clark, while A.C is using his abilities to "save the world", what will you be doing? Well you cant have sex anymore so what you be doing eh. Me thinks Clark still doesn't "get it", I hope he begins to realise it's him that's misguided.

He didn't even apologize to Lois about his behaviour with A.C because of course he was just protecting her and on to the last scene. I had to laugh with Lois twitching and fidgiting and Clark putting his hand on Lois's shoulder like an older brother. Where will you meet someone like A.C again Lois? Cue prophesising words from Clark "I promise someday, you'll meet someone else more special" boooooooooppppp and somebodies head got bigger.

Like Father, like son!
Like Father, like son!

What did your Daddy say to you Clark? The life of someone close to you will be exchanged for yours, something to that affect and there I've solved it. Daddy dearest thinks you'll love him after he dies, just like you think your more special than A.J. Thats right you big headed alien, you really are your father's son.

But finally, I can't leave this write up on a bad note after the best episode of this year, gotta end on the CLOIS and might I say thank freakin god, you showed up in the nick of time. If only to annoy the Chloe supporters, I hope this finally puts them to bed and I do sincerely pray that the life that is exchanged for Clark's will be the pretender who sits on my beloved Lois's throne.

[Summers]

I haven't enjoyed a Smallville episode since.....hmmm...."Blank". "Commencement" was entertaining, but I had major issues about it. Anyways, with "Aqua" I enjoyed.

Good:
-the dynamic with Clark and A.C.
-I love A.C. Sure Alan has some more acting to do, but there are some lines he would carry in a very Aquaman fashion
-the teaser was great because it set it all up, and I loved the interaction with the characters. Still even with a bump on the head Lois has wit lol.
-the three way showdown with A.C., Clark, and Lex in the mansion.
-the defense project by Lex very comic book (I hope it's not too comic booky for TPTB)
-I love the lines about history and educators by Fine
-the water fight was cool. I wish the fight would last longer though.
-the Clois at the end. I swear I heard the Superman theme notes in it.
-the references of JLA, Superboy, and Entrouge tv series :D

Bad:
-some dialogue was kinda corny
-too many "bros" and fish talk
-the Talon scene with A.C. and Lois seemed weird to me
-MR's Lex is still well...1D IMO

Overall I was pleased with what I saw. It's next week's episode I am dreading :(.

[chlarklove]

The Good

- Chloe looked gorgeous as per usual

- Clark was proactive for a change with AC and Fine

- The JLA comment made me squee :p

- Clark/AC fight underwater was cool. But Clark, if you get hit by the blast once, and you see it come at you again? MOVE OUT OF THE WAY lol you ARE faster than a speeding bullet for pete's sake. :p

- AC was really good looking.

- Love how Clark is doing what Superman does first, tries to reason instead of just going in and using force without thinking

- Hardly any Lana

The Bad

- Too much "Lois"

- Not enough Chloe

- "Lois" and AC had NO chemistry

- This ep was the slowest ep ever, well maybe after Sacred and Ageless, but I didn't *really* watch those :p

- The constant use of the word "Bro"

- Too much "Lois"

- ED can't act to save her life

- Not enough Chloe

- The worst kissing I've ever seen (yes a little worse than KK)

- WTF was up with Chloe being the only one covered? I wanted to see her in a swimsuit too dammit! :p

- Too much "Lois"

- Not enough Chloe

[ingy271]

Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be and the only thing that niggled me about the absence was the lack of screen time from Chloe and Lana.

Lets hope that 'Thirst' surprises me as well because the trailer isn't doing anything for me.

[ISUZU]

Hi Everyone

This is my take on the episode:

I really liked this episode, but first of all let me just say that those of you who have been slating the episode because it lacked some kind of depth your looking for - well I find your need for all the sentimental stuff kind of excessive in the least. Last season was in the main like an ongoing soap opera with actual very few filler episodes. It is unreasonable to expect Smallville to be one big ongoing soap opera like Dallas or Dynasty where all that happens is a constant development of Clarks relationship with all around him. We need episodes like Aquaman - yes agree some parts are brainless but I want some episodes where Clark meets up with freaks/other DC heroes and use his powers. As far as I am concerned the interaction between Clark and Aquaman when they got going together is like an episode of hte A-Team (if your old enough to remember) where BA meets up with Hulk Hogan on the show - lots of Bro's and getting on together to defeat the bad guys. Its all just good fun and away from the ongoing serious adult material. Some people need to get use to this stuff and also look forward to the next episode and for the record I had nothing against Spell from last season as it fitted in with the main story line - plenty of action making up for any disliked acting and it did have a story.


Getting back to Aquaman - I did not think that the relationship that was built between AC and Lois was too far fetched. We all know that in season 4 Lois has shown a like for strong men - that much should be expected with her contant jibes at Clark the farmboy. I agree that most of the time her attitude towards men is a defence mechanism not to get hurt which is justified as we saw in the episode how AC just left the lady after getting her very hot. As for AC's acting - we have seen better but its not really that much worse than other freaks who have been on the show.

Poff. Fine - just fantastic, the way he played his part today and the interaction with Clark was edge of the seat stuff. I think the episodes with Prof. Fine will be something to look forward and the relationship he develops with Clark and other memebers of the full time crew he gets to meet.

Lex - well he made a huge leap towards evil today. In the second meeting with Clark near the end, it was like he just did not give a sh*t and did not want his company. I get the feeling that the attitude he is developing is mainly because of Clark not sharing his secret - he was cold today and only did he show a change when Clark told him that he tried to defend him. If you think about it - in many past episodes he has defended both Clark, the Kents, and Lana from his dad (for whatever reason) but in the end I think he feels that those people just dont trust him. I think the end of season 4 and in Arrival he has lost all his trust in Clark and is only clinging on onto Lana. The only thing that was very bad about the episode was the torture scene - dont get me wrong - it was good to watch Lex giving it the bad and ugly BUT it was totally out of line with his current character situation. I dont think the scene was justified becasue I dont think he has got that bad yet. Although one could argue that putting Clark through the test in Mortal is a form of torture in itself.

Clois - well he never said he was not Jealous was the reply I kept getting when asking others about if he really was jealous or was it Lois just coming out with stuff out of anger. I think at this moment he is very much in love with Lana rather than be jealous and I think he was telling the truth when he said he was looking out for her as the guy could be a meteor freak. God knows the number of times Lana was being stalked by those freaks. Also it could be that he was looking for that oppertunity to rescue Lois and had his cue taken away by the arrival of Aquaman - lets face it, Clark could bring it up all the time just to annoy her. Finally the scene at the end was very good with both of them in the barn and I will say no more.

I think they got the balance right on the fight scene and also the actiona and special effects. They could have gone that extra mile and showed the two heroes dismantling that weapon or whatever they did a little close up.

Chlark - enough of it, and Clana - enough of it in the episode for what it was.

The big question:

When Lex looked at the lake after the demonstration of the weapon went wrong - he must have seen the two clear lanes moving through the water like we did. In his meeting with Clark he said 'Two' had practically ruined the weapon - we know that he is aware of Aquamans abilities after torturing him. But does he actually suspect that the other is Clark ? if he does then he still thinks Clark has special abilities.

Ovearall this episode was very good and as an episode that was not really part of the main story line this season - i.e. a filler type - it had everything you could ask for. Dont compare this to Run as Run was more focussed on character and comparing Clarks life to Barts -this episdoe was a lot more action and a little less conversation IMO. I liked the fact that this episode did not have the big flaw of Run which was that Bart had discovered Clarks weakness to Kryptonite within the first 10 minutes of the show (just a little silly in my book !!!)

Regards,

ISUZU

[Drew]

Great episode....as usual. This was the first time theys showed Clark at college which is cool, I am curious if Chloe goes there as well.

If there was one thing I didnt like it was the lack of secondary characters in this episode. There were no sign of the Kents, and only a couple shots of Lana and Chloe. I guess since this episode revolved around AC, Clark, and Lex it is understandable.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Drew
Great episode....as usual. This was the first time theys showed Clark at college which is cool, I am curious if Chloe goes there as well.

If there was one thing I didnt like it was the lack of secondary characters in this episode. There were no sign of the Kents, and only a couple shots of Lana and Chloe. I guess since this episode revolved around AC, Clark, and Lex it is understandable.

I'm pretty sure Chloe goes to Met U. Clark was at Central Kansas A&M.

[ryb]

Four episodes into the season...already.

My first observation about Aqua's fallout is the dichotomous camps the viewers seem to be in. This is not surprising given the erroneous observation by many that this episode is "filler", i.e., adds nothing to the overall storyline. I have found that most TV show followers tend to relate "filler" to "average" when the words are hardly synonymous.

Aqua most certainly added much to the storyline but in a way much different than that of Arrival or Hidden. Aqua focused on character development, and I think it did a fine job of doing so. Furthermore, Aqua (unlike Arrival and Hidden) felt appropriately paced and was not overloaded with plot development (In other words, Aqua was just right at an hour versus Arrival and Hidden, which both could have used an extra half hour).

What Aqua did exceptionally well:
Michael Rosenbaum was just devilishly fun in this episode. He takes on his role with such zeal; it's such a delight to see. His scenes with AC were especially menacing (I love how he pours the water over but aside from AC). Rosenbaum and Welling have really nailed their scenes together this season. The tension the two of them evoke is palpable.

Character development. Big plus in this episode, especially with the widening paths of Clark and Lex and Clark's realization of his larger role. AC had some good lines to promote this, and Lois had a great line at the end of the episode.

I absolutely love the element of surprise. In Aqua, when AC is on the dock by himself, and he is suddenly shot and he falls flat...oh, man. That was well done.

What Aqua did very well:
The plot was solid and was told well in an hour's time. The focus of this episode was appropriately narrow (i.e., characters who needed little screen time got little screen time). Erica Durance gave a very good performance (A lot of you underrate her acting ability; I think it's the material that's lacking here). Her "those are my good qualities" line was pitch perfect. James Marsters was appropriately mysterious as Fine. I was also impressed with his mannered zest for his role. Very few can get away with the subtle sarcastic energy that Marsters portrays effortlessly.

Finally, Tom Welling's throwback of the "bro" near the middle of the episode was almost sinister. I liked it.

What Aqua did well:
The last scene between Welling and Durance, although slightly overkill, was touching and provocative. Maybe a nod to just a little more character development.

What Aqua did marginally well:
Interaction between Lois and AC and Clark and AC. Don't think Welling and Durance didn't try.

What Aqua did not do well:
Alan Ritchson. He may be good looking to female eyes, but he lacks serious acting ability.

The dialogue in this episode was especially bothersome. This is most certainly Slavkin's and Swimmer's shortcoming (Their references are contrived and purposeful rather than subtle and provocative). They have got to steer clear from the term "super" for a while. And while we're at it, how about an avoidance of "bro"? The JLA reference was clever but a little too obvious (perhaps not saying JLA but leaving AC's comment alone instead would have helped).

Overall, I'd give Aqua a B+.

So after 4 episodes, how do I like this season so far?

There are many, many things I like about Season 5 so far. First, it is much more focused than last season (although I'm a fan of Season 4). It has really stepped up on Lex's downfall, which I'm liking very much. I absolutely love the tension in each scene between Clark and Lex.

The use of Chloe this year is tremendous. Allison Mack has stepped up to the plate and performed admirably (as usual). The "sidekick" element with Clark reminds me of a mix between Mulder and Scully and Stabler and Benson (the intelligence of Scully combined with the passion of Benson...very good combo). Her performance in Mortal, I think, was her best in the series.

John Glover continues to amaze. His non-speaking scene in Mortal was exceptional and his acting nuances in Hidden (with elements of Stamp and Brando) were undeniably impressive. I like where the character of Jor-El is going; I think we're going to learn many things about his motives and intentions this year. Jor-El has always been a mystery on this show, where his purposes are genuine but his tactics are sinister. Many have labeled Jor-El as confusing and random, but I think that's always been a positive because (to me) that seems to be realistic given the circumstances Clark Kent has found himself in. But I think the stepping stones have been placed in the first three episodes as to the true purpose behind Jor-El.

Tom Welling's acting continues to improve, and I think some of the Superman "starting blocks" are being placed (especially in Aqua).

I like the dramatic introduction of an impending death (although I think its use is somewhat contrived). I doubt that the 100th will disappoint.

Finally, some comments about the continuous bombardment of "continuity" demands. Although certain elements of continuity are necessary, loads of it are inhibiting. The major complaint this week seems to be the lack of a Clark/Lana discussion about Clark's resurrection in Hidden.

While I imagine a conversation would take place, is it really necessary to see? My first thought on how the conversation would go would be this:

Lana: What happened?
Clark: I have no idea.
...and so on...

And while Clark has "some idea," he certainly doesn't have a total grasp on the situation. Furthermore, it's the best way to end the discussion without saying too much about it (something I imagine Clark would do).

Besides, I think some parts of Hidden developed this storyline anyway. Such as, why would Lana have Clark's medical forms? Why is Lana really trying to convince Lex that Clark is normal? And what was her face saying when Lex said that a man who comes back to life is not normal?

So, even though a conversation on-screen would not be unnecessary, I'm not sure we really need to see one either. I imagine the repercussions of Hidden will be coming soon enough.

[Conduit]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
The first sentence followed by the first paragraph is what I'm focusing on here.

First off, you say Smallville Still Sucks. Well, that is to suggest that Smallville currently sucks. It is currently Season 5, which is to suggest that you think Season 5 sucks so far. We've only had one bad episode and you believe this based on that? I don't get it sorry.

While you may feel only one episode of SV has sucked this season, I feel every episode has been bad. So when I say SV still sucks, I mean this season as well as it's previous ones. Every now and then they'll produce a decent to good episode, but overall, as a dramatic series, it still suffers from the same problems it always has and that was the point of my post.


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Secondly, you *obviously* need to go back and read some of my old posts. I *have* agreed when Smallville has sucked. I *do* believe *this* episode was sadly lacking. Calling me a fanatical fan is WAY over the top. You reacted like everyone does when they're criticized, you insulted the person that was criticizing. Instead of coming up with a decent rebuttal that lacked insults. Way to go. :rolleyes:

You are mistaken. Let me explain something to you.

The title of the official episode threads are:

: Loved it? Hated it? What did YOU think of [insert episode title]?

That means Kryptonite Site Forums welcomes ALL opinions on any given episode to be expressed here – from those who loved an episode to those who hated it and everything in between. The fact that you came in here and told me that if I don’t like SV to stop watching it means that you don’t understand the purpose of the thread or how it works. This forum is not one of those bland, Smallville Rox and we don’t allow any criticism of it because it’s the best show EVAR!” sites where any differing opinion is silenced and the person[s] banished.

After I posted my opinion, you replied with this:


[i]Originally posted by MidgardDragon
The whole season sucks because of one bad episode? I've got an idea, if you don't like this show, as you obviously don't if you're going to insult an entire season based on one episode, then stop watching. It will save you the time of telling everyone how much it sucks.

In other words, "Go away if you don't like what you see". That was neither welcoming, respectful nor a response that encouraged further discussion of the episode.

In my post, I never implied that anyone who liked ‘Aqua’ held the wrong opinion of it nor did I say that anyone who’s enjoyed SV this, or any other season doesn’t know good TV or storytelling, etc., and I certainly haven’t told anyone to stop watching and I never would do that because just as I’m entitled to my opinion about the state of SV, so is everyone else. I simply posted my opinion on Aqua and how I feel it perfectly captures all that’s wrong with SV. For the fans that dig the show, flaws and all, I say good for them but I don’t share their view. I have and will continue to express my opinion as I see fit on these forums and you’re just going to have to deal with it.

Here’s Your Sign.


As for the continuity argument - in all dramatic series continuity should always be an essential part of the show. Without it, it's nothing but a series of one-shots as SV has brilliantly demonstrated over the years.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Conduit
While you may feel only one episode of SV has sucked this season, I feel every episode has been bad. So when I say SV still sucks, I mean this season as well as it's previous ones. Every now and then they'll produce a decent to good episode, but overall, as a dramatic series, it still suffers from the same problems it always has and that was the point of my post.



You are mistaken. Let me explain something to you.

The title of the official episode threads are:

[insert episode title]: Loved it? Hated it? What did YOU think of [insert episode title]?

That means Kryptonite Site Forums welcomes ALL opinions on any given episode to be expressed here – from those who loved an episode to those who hated it and everything in between. The fact that you came in here and told me that if I don’t like SV to stop watching it means that you don’t understand the purpose of the thread or how it works. This forum is not one of those bland, Smallville Rox and we don’t allow any criticism of it because it’s the best show EVAR!” sites where any differing opinion is silenced and the person[s] banished.

After I posted my opinion, you replied with this:



In other words, "Go away if you don't like what you see". That was neither welcoming, respectful nor a response that encouraged further discussion of the episode.

In my post, I never implied that anyone who liked ‘Aqua’ held the wrong opinion of it nor did I say that anyone who’s enjoyed SV this, or any other season doesn’t know good TV or storytelling, etc., and I certainly haven’t told anyone to stop watching and I never would do that because just as I’m entitled to my opinion about the state of SV, so is everyone else. I simply posted my opinion on Aqua and how I feel it perfectly captures all that’s wrong with SV. For the fans that dig the show, flaws and all, I say good for them but I don’t share their view. I have and will continue to express my opinion as I see fit on these forums and you’re just going to have to deal with it.

Here’s Your Sign.


As for the continuity argument - in all dramatic series continuity should always be an essential part of the show. Without it, it's nothing but a series of one-shots as SV has brilliantly demonstrated over the years.

Wow! Not only do you not let things go! But you don't listen to anyone but yourself! Bravo!

I didn't say go away if you don't like it. I suggested that if you don't like Smallville, then don't watch it. If you're into watching shows you hate, go for it.

I didn't say your opinions weren't welcomed. Guess what? The paragraph you quoted. Not once did it say anything about you going away in it. Heck, the only thing that paragraph you quoted said was that you can't take criticism, and obviously you can't if you're willing to sit here and berate me instead of letting this go .

My initial argument is that I don't think you can judge that Smallville sucks from this one episode, which is what the overall tone of your post suggested. That's not what you meant? Fine, tell me that and I will believe you and go on about my business. Did you try to do this? Nope, you insulted and berated me and are sitting on your high horse like you're the noble knight fighting the evil of the land. Sorry, buddy, but you've been a jerk the whole time. This whole thing had went away, and could have went away earlier if you had just explained your position without insults and taunts.

Forget this Here's Your Sign bull, the only thing I've got to say to you is Grow Up. Learn to argue and not insult.

[spideyfan]

It had great LEx scenes and the episode did what it was supposed to, it introduced Aquaman.

the JLA reference was gold, and Chloe as always was SUPER!

Lois was hot, Lex was badass, and Brainiac was interesting.

In all, good ep.

8/10

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by ms.c.
This was a dramatic decline in quality after the first episodes this season.

Aquaman and ED have great bodies. Like REALLY great bodies. BUT they had no chemistry at all. They did a very bad job in their scenes. They were off and awkward in every scene they were in. They need to hire an acting coach.

Lex and the Clex scenes were interesting. I liked how MR did his "pitchfork" line.

Too little Chloe. And no followup as to what Clark's explanation was to Lana? How convenient of the writers to just forget about that.

Professor Fine was good. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him as per spoilers.

Finally, as someone who loves Chloe and strongly feels that Chlois SHOULD HAPPEN, I was very, very sad about the last Clois anvil scene. I was shaking my head wondering what they are thinking. ED's character is a lost cause. She's not *MY* Lois Lane and she never will be. Her underachieving and freeloading ways annoy me too much for me to ever admire her. I regret so much tptb don't see that Chloe has the right stuff and ED's character doesn't.



How the heck is Lois a freeloader? She's freaking got a job, which is more than I can say for Chloe, Lana or Clark. :rolleyes: Was Chloe working when her dad was on unemployment? Yeah right she was too worried about her precious Torch to think about helping out her dad, that's a freeloader.

Oh yeah that was another plus less Chloe her "You must tell Lana" lines are getting stale and forced, she's become a parrot

Awww you didn't like the anvil scene at the end? What about all the ones through out the episode? :D

Anyways this is my review I thought this was a good episode, but the best of the season SO FAR at least.

The actor who played AC wasn't bad, I mean Kristin Kreuk and Tom Welling were horrible their first seasons.

Lex OMG it's so great to see him finally turning evil loved it :D

Lana why was she in this episode? She just seemed out of place in the scenes she was in.

Loved all the foreshadowing, especially at the end, loved that they played the Superman theme during the Clois loft scene :D

[kyrptonitey]

I'm not sure if it was the way it was written, but I HATED AQUAMAN! This is the guy who took off his shirt at an American Idol audition for christ sake, and his whole d@#k personality was painfully apparent. Tom Welling is a good looking guy but he comes off, on camera anyways, and someone you'd hang with. This guy can't hide who he is, which is someone no normal guy would have any time for. I hope all the pointless shots of his chest, was good for the ladies, but I for one will tune out if he makes a return. On a side note, if Tom Welling is going to continue to play a super hero, he might want to hit the gym a couple more times a week as well.

[MidgardDragon]

Wow, people's standards on physical things are waayy too high. TW needs to hit the gym more? WTF? He's ripped for gods' sake. That's almost as stupid as people saying Alisson Mack is fat. Gimme a break people!

Oh, and I agree, Aquaman was lame, as he always is in every incarnation. This one could have been cool, but the actor who played him absolutely sucked.

[LadyLuther]

Right, as far as his acting goes..... well, let's hope his albums do better. That's right, he's a singer! His big hit (that no one's heard) is called.... wait for it..... Gupy! LOL!!! He's definately a fish boy!
It kind of gives me hope, though. I'm an actor (still in highschool) and I can't wait to get out into the real theatrical/film world. And Alan is from my district! He's a Niceville boy (thus making him a boggy boy), he lived about 20 minutes from me, our highschools are major rivals! If a boggy boy can make it to Smallville, I'm pretty much a given that I can make it in Hollywood. LOL!

[Lana_Lang #1]

I'm gonna sum this whole episode up with my KSite Episode Awards!

Lana_Lang #1's weekly KryptonSite Episode Line Awards!

Lex "The days of you barging into my mansion and offering sage advice are over!"

Clark "The days of me believing your lies are over!"

- These two together won the BEST LINE(S) OF THE EPISODE Award!

Chloe "We didn't ask for a world that needs Heroes, but the truth is we do."
- Winner of the MOST TRUTHFUL/BEAUTIFUL LINE Award!

Clark "Lex, there are some really mean bad people in the world and I don't want one of them to hurt you."
- Winner of the MOST HURT CLARK MOMENT Award!


A.C. "Lex, you're a tool"

Later on when Lex has captured A.C.

A.C. "Why are you doing this to me?"

Lex "Well for one you called me a tool"

- Winner of the MOST HILARIOUS COMBO Award!


Lex looking at Clark "You didn't tell him about my pitchfork, did you?"

- That look won my GAYEST LOOK OF THE EPISODE Award!


Clark "A kid who ran too fast for his own good"
- I loved that line! BEST REFERENCE TO A PREVIOUS HERO Award!


Lex " You might be a big fish in the water, but in here, I'm the shark"
- Winner of the STUPIDEST LINE OF THE EPISODE Award!


LEX "Do you travel with The Guardians Of The Sea?"
A.C. "I dont travel with an Entourage"
- Winner of the BEST AQUAMAN REFERENCE Award!


Lex "Wow you convinced me"
Lex angrily to A.C. "I'm sorry, who are you again?!"
- Tie for the GREATEST SARCASTIC MOMENT Award!

Clark to Lois "Lois I promise, someday you'll meet someone even more special."
- Charming and slight too big of an Superman anvil, but still the Winner of the BEST LOIS & CLARK'S FUTURE PEEK OF THIS EPISODE Award!


Lois: Dont worry you Snuggle-bunnies can hop around all you want, I'm a heavy sleeper.
Clark: Ya think she can sleep with me smothering her with a pillow?
Fine to Clark "If you dropped my class, please don't be here to apologize for it."
- I really liked that line.

Three way tie for the BEST SNARK LINE(S) OF THE EPISODE Award!


A.C. "Superboy"
A.C. "Maybe we should start a JLA Junior Lifeguard Association of something"
- Both first place tie for the CUTEST SUPERMAN REFERENCE OF THE EPISODE Award!


Fine "Good Morning, Mr. Kent. Did we start too early for you?"

Fine "Lets look at the word History. History is not about facts, its about the context and who is telling the story."

Fine "What is your story Mr. Kent?"

Fine "Beware white knights people. They don't slay dragons, they train them to suit their own dark purposes."

Fine "Never apologize. If your gonna show up late, do it with conviction Mr. Kent."

Fine "Well, you know, Grocho Marx said that there was only way to find out if a man is honest. Ask him. If he says yes, he must be crooked."

Clark"I would think a college professor would be quoting Carl Marx, not Grocho."

Fine "German philosophy is easy. Comedy is hard."

Clark "Lex is not the monster you make him out to be"

Fine "You know whats worse than the fear of speaking the truth Mr. Kent? Its the fear of uncovering it."

Fine "I'll never lie to you, Mr. Kent"
- Winner of the BEST INTRODUCTION SCENE OF A SUPERMAN MYTHOLOGY SUPERVILLIAN Award!

Professeur Fine/Brainiac "Do you know where the world's greatest super computer resides... Right here"
- Winner of the BEST BRAINAIC REFERENCE SO FAR Award!

[ryb]

Just thought I'd point out to fellow X-Files fans that if Crater Lake looks familiar to you...it should.

That same lake was used in The X-Files Season 1 episode "Conduit". It was Lake Okobogee in the good ol' state of Iowa (If I'm not mistaken, the spelling of the lake in the episode is incorrect, very likely purposely incorrect -- I think the lake name is actually spelled Okoboji).

The reason I know this is that the very same backdrop (that of forested hills) appears in both episodes...this is noteworthy since I doubt such elevation gradient exists in Iowa or Kansas -- much more likely in/around Vancouver, where both shows were filmed.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention.

[livn_life]

It was an okay episode. I didn't think it was horrible, but it wasn't the finest in the SV lineup.

I do think that Lois is getting a bad rap for not being more thankful. The Lois character is a proud, independant woman. She's had to hold her own on an army base, where people are either putting her down for being the special baby girl of the general or they were sucking up to her. She had to grow a thick skin and try to be better than everyone else. Given that she is very proud and has a deep psychological need to come across as untouchable, don't you think that she was humiliated by banging her head by just jumping off a float? She's supposed to be superLois. Able to kick soldiers butts and take any and all abuse, letting it roll off her back like water off a duck. To top it off AC came off as it was expected for her to grant him favors just because he pulled her out of the water and gave a half-%$#* CPR to her. That said, I think it was understandable for her to try to be a little cold and hard-to-get. Underneath that granite exterior lies the heart of a generous, kind, and thoughtful woman. A woman who has to protect that core at all costs. Makes you wonder who she revealed that core to in the past and then had that person stomp on it.

Enough of defending "wonderwoman" ;)

The bad:
1) AC's acting was unimpressive, he looked like he was made of wood. Where did he get acting lessons? From a mannikin? Plus all the bro's and surf's up crap grated on one's nerves.
2) After being beaten up by Clark in the previous episode, wouldn't you think that Lex would have a couple of security guards escort Mr. Kent from the premises before Clark even got close to Lex?
3) Why wasn't Lana or Chloe wearing bikini's? Lana really looked straight out of the 50's.
4) Lack of continuity (except for the Bart comment).

The good:
1) Lois in a bikini (funny how that measures a lot in a guys review :)
2) Dr. Fine. He has lost the Spike accent, which I find as interesting as disturbing. I know the actor is from California, but he did the english accent so well. :) He has been added to cast with grace and style.
3) The underwater fight scene was cool. I understand that Clark just let AC fire water balls at him, but wouldn't you if you were a powerful Kryptonian? Clark is prideful and after falling from orbit with only some black smudges and ripped clothes, he probably thinks he's truly invulnerable. What the heck are water balls going to do? Plus after the first one was so weak. (Kudos to the AC character for not opening up with a full round-house before knowing whether or not the foe can take the punishment - the concern of a true hero).
4) Comment on Bart. Nice...

Again, an okay episode. Other than introducing the professor and teaching Clark to think a little more like a hero with responsibilities and less like a morose, hormone crazy teenager, it did little for plot or character development. It's kind of cool to introduce other superhero's but it would be nice if they came back every once in a while. Its not like Bart couldn't race back very easily to say hi.

[supercatmom]

Loved it! Loved It! Loved It!

It was fun, fun fun. It was the kind of episode that made me become a fan of Smallville.

From Lois in the Superman bikini to AC dressed in the Orange tank top and green shorts to the junor lifeguard association remark - it was fun.

But the best part was MR portraying Lex. He is becoming more evil with each passing week and it is a joy to watch.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by livn_life
It was an okay episode. I didn't think it was horrible, but it wasn't the finest in the SV lineup.

I do think that Lois is getting a bad rap for not being more thankful. The Lois character is a proud, independant woman. She's had to hold her own on an army base, where people are either putting her down for being the special baby girl of the general or they were sucking up to her. She had to grow a thick skin and try to be better than everyone else. Given that she is very proud and has a deep psychological need to come across as untouchable, don't you think that she was humiliated by banging her head by just jumping off a float? She's supposed to be superLois. Able to kick soldiers butts and take any and all abuse, letting it roll off her back like water off a duck. To top it off AC came off as it was expected for her to grant him favors just because he pulled her out of the water and gave a half-%$#* CPR to her. That said, I think it was understandable for her to try to be a little cold and hard-to-get. Underneath that granite exterior lies the heart of a generous, kind, and thoughtful woman. A woman who has to protect that core at all costs. Makes you wonder who she revealed that core to in the past and then had that person stomp on it.

Enough of defending "wonderwoman" ;)

The bad:
1) AC's acting was unimpressive, he looked like he was made of wood. Where did he get acting lessons? From a mannikin? Plus all the bro's and surf's up crap grated on one's nerves.
2) After being beaten up by Clark in the previous episode, wouldn't you think that Lex would have a couple of security guards escort Mr. Kent from the premises before Clark even got close to Lex?
3) Why wasn't Lana or Chloe wearing bikini's? Lana really looked straight out of the 50's.
4) Lack of continuity (except for the Bart comment).

The good:
1) Lois in a bikini (funny how that measures a lot in a guys review :)
2) Dr. Fine. He has lost the Spike accent, which I find as interesting as disturbing. I know the actor is from California, but he did the english accent so well. :) He has been added to cast with grace and style.
3) The underwater fight scene was cool. I understand that Clark just let AC fire water balls at him, but wouldn't you if you were a powerful Kryptonian? Clark is prideful and after falling from orbit with only some black smudges and ripped clothes, he probably thinks he's truly invulnerable. What the heck are water balls going to do? Plus after the first one was so weak. (Kudos to the AC character for not opening up with a full round-house before knowing whether or not the foe can take the punishment - the concern of a true hero).
4) Comment on Bart. Nice...

Again, an okay episode. Other than introducing the professor and teaching Clark to think a little more like a hero with responsibilities and less like a morose, hormone crazy teenager, it did little for plot or character development. It's kind of cool to introduce other superhero's but it would be nice if they came back every once in a while. Its not like Bart couldn't race back very easily to say hi.

Nice points. I didnt even think about AC and now he didnt lay on the full damage until he knew Clark could take it. Nice observation. I don't think though that everyone needs to be in bikinis. I mean Lana has never worn a bikini unless soemthing has happened to make her personality different like in Nicodemus. I'm sure Kristen would look uber hot in one, but I don't think that's the character. Same goes for Chloe. Lois however, just like you described her, seems to me to be the type that would wear one to show off her "assets". I'm not gonna complain.

[SmalliesMatt]

i liked it... was the worst ep of this season BUT never the worst ever. can i SPELL that for you? ? ?
Loved the fish parts and the swimming :)
He wasnt a great actor but he had a body.lol

[Conduit]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Wow! Not only do you not let things go! But you don't listen to anyone but yourself! Bravo!

I didn't say go away if you don't like it. I suggested that if you don't like Smallville, then don't watch it. If you're into watching shows you hate, go for it.

I didn't say your opinions weren't welcomed. Guess what? The paragraph you quoted. Not once did it say anything about you going away in it. Heck, the only thing that paragraph you quoted said was that you can't take criticism, and obviously you can't if you're willing to sit here and berate me instead of letting this go .

My initial argument is that I don't think you can judge that Smallville sucks from this one episode, which is what the overall tone of your post suggested. That's not what you meant? Fine, tell me that and I will believe you and go on about my business. Did you try to do this? Nope, you insulted and berated me and are sitting on your high horse like you're the noble knight fighting the evil of the land. Sorry, buddy, but you've been a jerk the whole time. This whole thing had went away, and could have went away earlier if you had just explained your position without insults and taunts.

Forget this Here's Your Sign bull, the only thing I've got to say to you is Grow Up. Learn to argue and not insult.

You have posted nothing productive or constructive this entire time. This is my last post to you until you learn how to communicate properly. I have said my peace on Aqua and the state of SV as I had every right to do. Please learn how to deal with differing opinions. If you continue, I will report you to the mods.

End.

[President_Luthor]

In a smiley: :rotfl:

Where, oh where to begin:

Arthur Curry aka Aquaman showing up: cool

Over-cooked surfer-talk ("...with you on the turf 'n me in the surf ..." :\ ) : not cool, and kinda cheesy. And the kid had waaay too much orange-and-green. Okay, he's AQUAMAN. We get it.

Bad Lex: Yes, goshdarnit, Lex. Embrace your innate badness. THIS is what Lex is building up to ... secret Pentagon, lets-rule-the-world projects. Aqua-dude was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of his league.

JLA props: Okay, they managed to get in a nod ... but Junior Lifeguards Association??? More Aqua-cheese

Marsters as Prof. Fine / Brainiac: He was beyond cool, and clearly in a league all his own. Clark's got no chance against him. His scenes alone are worth putting up with the tubular, swim team guy with enviro-terrorist hobbies

Lois in a bikini. Make that TWO! Okay, the 'other' reason(s) to check out this ep. BTW, was anyone else extremely disappointed that Chloe had that wrap-around on. I guess AM in a bikini is too HOT for WB primetime.

The Aqua-fight: it was ... interesting. Clark's out of his league - again - when faced with water fights.

In spite of all the good stuff -- Brainiac, previews of Bad Lex -- the cheese and Clark's bold-faced lying habits still soured an otherwise 'just alright' episode. Clark is the biggest liar in town, and I'm glad Lex finally has no patience for it. So they're no longer friends ... well DUH! Clark, you've been shoveling meteor-laced cow patties since 2001!

I won't give this ep any sort of rating. You have to take this ep. as is: as the Aquaman episode that introduces the cunning Brainiac aka Milton Fine. There are good things to see -- if you look for them -- amidst the aqua-cheese and Clark's on-going boneheadedness.

I'm ready for Lex to go medieval on Clark's sorry a$$ at this point :rolleyes:

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by Conduit
You have posted nothing productive or constructive this entire time. This is my last post to you until you learn how to communicate properly. I have said my peace on Aqua and the state of SV as I had every right to do. Please learn how to deal with differing opinions. If you continue, I will report you to the mods.

End.

Thanks for telling us. It was tiresome to see you guys ***** about a TV show.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Conduit
You have posted nothing productive or constructive this entire time. This is my last post to you until you learn how to communicate properly. I have said my peace on Aqua and the state of SV as I had every right to do. Please learn how to deal with differing opinions. If you continue, I will report you to the mods.

End.

Feel free to report me to the mods, I am sure they will review the thread to see where the argument actually got started. I have only responded to your rants to defend myself and will also not be posting any more in response to this so long as you can just leave it alone.

If you would like to discuss differing opinions, let us look at the fact that I've stated before that I was merely of the opinion that you're argument was not sound based on the facts you used to back it up, and I agreed that I might have misjudged what your intentions were. And still you continue to spit these kinds of silly arguments when I've attempted many times to just let this go.

Your attempt to get me to not respond by threatening to report me to the mods shows where each of us stands in this argument and I don't need to argue it any further. First we have you arguing that differing opinions are welcomed and that I can't respond to it with a criticism (what an ironic set of events that is), then we have you arguing that differing opinions are welcomed followed by you threatening to report me to the mods if I post a differing opinion.

I agree to not post any more about this in this thread, as this isn't the time nor place for it. I will let the events and posts speak for themselves. Insults were thrown around by one of us because they got criticized. One of us simply did a short bit of criticizing that he has admitted he might have been mistaken about and has defended his right to do so when the other person has hurled insults.

*lets the postings speak for themselves from here on out*

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon

I didn't say go away if you don't like it. I suggested that if you don't like Smallville, then don't watch it. If you're into watching shows you hate, go for it.


I'm not trying to take up for anyone but I have one of the rules that should read and here it is:


10) This board is for the discussion of anything Smallville, whether it is positive or negative. Everyone has a right to their opinions, so making statements like "how can you all think this way" or "why does everybody hate....." is frowned upon. (Making remarks like "You're all just jealous"... is considered flaming!).

At no point should anyone tell anyone else, "If you don't like it then stop watching." People are allowed to have their opinions, even if that opinion is that Smallville is a terrible show.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
I'm not trying to take up for anyone but I have one of the rules that should read and here it is:

No no, he has every right to watch the show and complain about it. What I'm saying is I don't understand why he would want to watch the show if he hates it and thinks it completely sucks no matter what. As I sad in the part you quoted, I don't want him to go away and I *obviously* have no right to tell anyone not to watch the show. But, trying to understand why someone wants to watch a show they have no liking for, shouldn't be a problem IMO. He has yet to answer me that, and has instead said things like "here's your sign" and little taunts and insults.

I say whatever, so be it. I said I wouldn't post here anymore, and that would go a lot smoother if we all agree not to post anymore regarding this argument. Let's move on to discussing the episode. And next week we'll move on to discussing next week's episode. There's no need for all this fighting, let's just all agree to stop it and not post about the argument or bicker anymore.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Conduit
You have posted nothing productive or constructive this entire time. This is my last post to you until you learn how to communicate properly. I have said my peace on Aqua and the state of SV as I had every right to do. Please learn how to deal with differing opinions. If you continue, I will report you to the mods.

End.

lol...

[livn_life]

In a smiley:

Where, oh where to begin:

Arthur Curry aka Aquaman showing up: cool

Over-cooked surfer-talk ("...with you on the turf 'n me in the surf ..." ) : not cool, and kinda cheesy. And the kid had waaay too much orange-and-green. Okay, he's AQUAMAN. We get it.

Bad Lex: Yes, goshdarnit, Lex. Embrace your innate badness. THIS is what Lex is building up to ... secret Pentagon, lets-rule-the-world projects. Aqua-dude was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of his league.

JLA props: Okay, they managed to get in a nod ... but Junior Lifeguards Association??? More Aqua-cheese

Marsters as Prof. Fine / Brainiac: He was beyond cool, and clearly in a league all his own. Clark's got no chance against him. His scenes alone are worth putting up with the tubular, swim team guy with enviro-terrorist hobbies

Lois in a bikini. Make that TWO! Okay, the 'other' reason(s) to check out this ep. BTW, was anyone else extremely disappointed that Chloe had that wrap-around on. I guess AM in a bikini is too HOT for WB primetime.

The Aqua-fight: it was ... interesting. Clark's out of his league - again - when faced with water fights.

In spite of all the good stuff -- Brainiac, previews of Bad Lex -- the cheese and Clark's bold-faced lying habits still soured an otherwise 'just alright' episode. Clark is the biggest liar in town, and I'm glad Lex finally has no patience for it. So they're no longer friends ... well DUH! Clark, you've been shoveling meteor-laced cow patties since 2001!

I won't give this ep any sort of rating. You have to take this ep. as is: as the Aquaman episode that introduces the cunning Brainiac aka Milton Fine. There are good things to see -- if you look for them -- amidst the aqua-cheese and Clark's on-going boneheadedness.

I'm ready for Lex to go medieval on Clark's sorry a$$ at this point

Of Course Clark is boneheaded... he's a teenager. Rebellion and stubborness are just part of the teenage recipe. As he grows up, the boneheadedness will fade. But sometimes, for now, I agree, it can be a little frustrating.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by livn_life
Of Course Clark is boneheaded... he's a teenager. Rebellion and stubborness are just part of the teenage recipe. As he grows up, the boneheadedness will fade. But sometimes, for now, I agree, it can be a little frustrating.

I agree that the boneheadedness is a part of Clark's development. I do think the writers give him too little credit sometimes, though. Clark Kent has always seemed like a pretty smart guy to me, and they should definitely be showing us how smart he is becoming at this point, but he still seems to be the same BDA from S1 in some instances.

I dunno, maybe they plan on him not gaining his super intelligence until he gets "downloaded" completely at the FOS.

[Conduit]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
Thanks for telling us. It was tiresome to see you guys ***** about a TV show.

Actually it was more about breaking the forum rules and disrespect for other members than about SV but I'd like to thank you for posting the following bit:


10) This board is for the discussion of anything Smallville, whether it is positive or negative. Everyone has a right to their opinions, so making statements like "how can you all think this way" or "why does everybody hate....." is frowned upon. (Making remarks like "You're all just jealous"... is considered flaming!).

At no point should anyone tell anyone else, [b]"If you don't like it then stop watching." People are allowed to have their opinions, even if that opinion is that Smallville is a terrible show.

Which this post:


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
The whole season sucks because of one bad episode? I've got an idea, if you don't like this show, as you obviously don't if you're going to insult an entire season based on one episode, then stop watching. It will save you the time of telling everyone how much it sucks.

Directly goes against and that was the issue.

[DukeOfSteel]

I thought you were done with this. Please stop.
And with the line "Here's your sign" you perpetuate the disrespect.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by DukeOfSteel
perpetuate

Big word. Wonder if Alan Ritchson a.k.a. Aquaman knows what that word means? :lol: Had to look it up myself. :o

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
Big word. Wonder if Alan Ritchson a.k.a. Aquaman knows what that word means? :lol: Had to look it up myself. :o

I'd say he probably does. He seems like he must be a decently intelligent guy, he just *can't* *act*. I don't know who told him that he can, but he really can't.

He might be alright with some acting classes and a few smaller roles, but whoever cast him as a superhero guest star screwed up majorly.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Cause he did look allot like Aquaman would look.

Also he's built like a Superhero except for that blinding "hey I had my teeth whitend at the local dentist" smile.

Of course Tom Welling had the same thing done also.

[DukeOfSteel]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
Big word. Wonder if Alan Ritchson a.k.a. Aquaman knows what that word means? :lol: Had to look it up myself. :o

Hehehehe. I knew what it meant, but i had to check to make sure that was the word I wanted to use.

For the episode, I did like it. I didn't think AC was too bad, but he wasn't all that good either.

The one thing that gets me about our boy Clark: He's got superspeed! How come he keeps getting nailed by all these people? It was the same thing in the Superman:TAS as well.
He should be able to dodge nearly anything!

[Conduit]

Originally posted by DukeOfSteel
I thought you were done with this. Please stop.
And with the line "Here's your sign" you perpetuate the disrespect.

This is none of your concern. If you feel the need to say anything to me regarding this issue, then do so by PM. I hope this is the end. Thank you very much.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by DukeOfSteel

The one thing that gets me about our boy Clark: He's got superspeed! How come he keeps getting nailed by all these people? It was the same thing in the Superman:TAS as well.
He should be able to dodge nearly anything!

What drama is in that?

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Somebody Stop Me
What drama is in that?

Yeah, it's pretty obvious sometimes that the creators of Superman made him too powerful (thus the need for a weakness to a green rock from his home planet). But since kryptonite stories get pretty lame pretty quick, sometimes we just have to let go and believe that Clark didn't think to respond in time, or was distracted by something, or just whatever made him not move as fast as he normally could.

[DukeOfSteel]

You are both absolutely correct, but it still gets me a bit lol!

I believe that they have depowered supes a bit in the comics, but not completely sure.
They even changed him into some kind of energy guy for a while.
Does anyone know which comic that happened in?

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by DukeOfSteel
You are both absolutely correct, but it still gets me a bit lol!

I believe that they have depowered supes a bit in the comics, but not completely sure.
They even changed him into some kind of energy guy for a while.
Does anyone know which comic that happened in?

Energy guy? Are you talking about the yellow-glasses Eradicator in the Return of Superman series?

[DukeOfSteel]

No.
I saw this in some of the JLA trade paperbacks. His skin was kind of blue, and so was the costume. No cape either.
His powers had changed to some kind of energy absorption.

I found the new supes info.

See


http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/comics.php?topic=comics-new_supes

for the story.

[Black & White]

I liked the episode because I was able to see Lex's darker side and Professor Fine meeting Clark.
IMO is the actor who plays Aquaman should go to some acting classes, it wasn't the best person to play the character.

[Deana]

I enjoyed this episode. It was nice to be introduced to a hero who enjoys his powers and don't see them as a curse.

Clark has a lot of growing up to do.

The Return of Lois. I've missed her the last couple of episodes.

I know a lot of poeple didn't like all the foreshadowing, but they need to do something to remind me the Clark and SV will actually turn to Supes, because frankly his direction so far, this season, doesn't even put the two in the same solarsystem.

[KryptoniteLacedPie]

I thought Aqua was pretty good. I have other episodes I like more, but it's always neat to see other furture superheroes. So far they've had The Flash and Aquaman. I wonder who they'll do next.

[Somebody Stop Me]

Originally posted by Deana

I know a lot of poeple didn't like all the foreshadowing, but they need to do something to remind me the Clark and SV will actually turn to Supes, because frankly his direction so far, this season, doesn't even put the two in the same solarsystem.

Whatever! What about him saving Smallville from a nuclear attack by that pyscho? I guess that means nothing?

[Kryptonianian Warrior]

I liked Aqua a lot even more than Thirst and Mortal. It was cool to see another suoperhero on the show. Aquaman was a simple but fun new actor to come to the show. He acted more like a cartoon character on an animated show but I think he was good overall. I give this episode a 4 out of 5. Good stuff!

[Yilkay]

aqua was rubbish in season 4 episode 5 it was flash also a poor episode.(hated it )

[Welling_is_pretty]

Well, I just saw Aqua on the rerun last night. It wasn't at all what I was expecting.
First, understand that I have only seen Season 1 and 2 completely, some bits of season 3, none of Season 4 and only Splinter of Season 5 (besides Aqua, of course, now).
Having said that I have to say Lois is fricking annoying! I've never cared much for her (except in the movies, Margot was pretty cool) but she was extra annoying there. I really can't see why Clark would fall in love with her and why AC was even attracted to her. (Except maybe her body, she does have an impressive one.)
Her relationship with him was even more riduculous than Lois's "relationship" with Bruce in the animated Superman series. Rather unbelievable.
Leaving that behind, the fish/water references were cute at first but then got annoying as well. And the whole "bro" thing? I began to wince everytime AC said it. And did it remind anyone else of Kinetic from Season 1 where those guys with the tattos that Whitney falls in with keep calling each other bro?
The most startling thing was Lex. Remember the episodes I've seen were all pre-rift so it was odd to see a Lex so blatantly evil. He was diabolical when he denied AC water. Michael was very good.
My only true regret is that I didn't get to see the first five minutes and therefor missed most of Tommy in his bathing suit. Any chance to see that man's chest! :p :lol:
Overall, I'm glad I saw it. It had it's good points (the JLA references, 'Superboy', etc. were cute) but I don't htink I could watch it again and that's a bad sign.

BTW, I am a Clexer by inclination but in the het shipper pairings I'm a Chlarker so it was nice to see all those lovely interactions between Clark and Chloe! :)

[TheKents]

I didn't like this episode, it was a disepointed from last weeks "Hidden" which was brilliant, this episode was just cheesy.
Too much Lois and and too little Chloe..

[Mr. Wrong]

I felt this was an excellent episode. The sub plots took some interesting twists an turns. The inuendos of what is to come down the road were clever. I disagree with whoever said this was the worst episode ever. Hypnotic has that dubious honor!

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
I felt this was an excellent episode. The sub plots took some interesting twists an turns. The inuendos of what is to come down the road were clever. I disagree with whoever said this was the worst episode ever. Hypnotic has that dubious honor!

If by worst episode ever, you mean one of the best episodes ever, then yes, Hypnotic indeed. ;)

[SSJ Trapstar]

This actually was one of my all time fav episodes, the way they had clark kinda against aquaman at first and them become friends and working against Lex was a good turn. I really liked how they through the JLA line in there aswell.

Plus like noted before.. Lois in a bikini is always something to smile about hahaha

[cloisinmyheart]

hot stuff. its nice to have another JL hero on the show once in a while

[smallhero08]

i love that episode that is my favorite episode

[John L. Nerone]

Originally posted by ProudPenny
Please post your general loved it/ hated it /worst/best episode ever types of feedback about the eppy here. Please DO NOT start a separate thread about your general opinion of the show. Thanks!

I liked this episode, for the fact they Introduced another member of the Future Justice League of America. Seing Lois in a Bikini was a pleasant surprise as well LOL

[jesslang]

i liked it ...i thought it was cool when he was lex in the lab with him and he was talking about im the shark....ha ha ha ..

NO...

[Bilza]

While it's not one of my favourites in season 5, I still found this episode to be great especially with the one and only Lex Luthor. He just gets more bad!

Still not convinced that Lex is evil. I have to agree from what I've read in 1 or 2 comments in discussions that "Onyx" was where the balance was tilted towards more evil. The good Lex was tortured in that episode and despite the 2 lexes put back together evil alexander took over. I always had different theory that while Lex always showed a bit of darkness in every season, after his first love Helen betrayed him, I noticed a beginning downward spiral into darkness in season 3 especially after the shock therapy and drugging in Shattered/Asylum and then coming to terms with remembering his lost brother in Memoria as he seeked Lionel's affection.. His character started to become more cold whilst showing alot of good at the same time. He tried redeeming himself in season 4 when he asked Clark to be his friend again so he can keep his "darkness at bay". In season 4, I noticed a 65-70% good lex and 30-35% evil lex. He still had control over his evil side but after Onyx I noticed his character started to change dramatically switching to evil lex to about 70-75%. I still think that amount of evil has continued up to now. Many of the scenes we witnessed in "Aqua" along with his deceitful lies was just about that much. I think the good side of Lex is what's preventing his character to go that extra further, that bit more extreme. Evil Lex wouldn't invite an "activist" like Clark and AC to his mansion to try and convince him not to test a lethal weapon that could harm the world. Lex also used a line practically taught by his father when he says "if you think I'm going to bow down to thuggish tactics of extremists, you really dont know me very well". The Lex of old would never say such a thing but this is now a darker more ruthless Lex Luthor inspired by the teachings of his father about tough policy making. The best interaction came between Clark and Lex in these eye-catching lines:

"Clark the days of you barging into my home, giving me sage advice are over!" - Lex Luthor. In the past Clark and Lex would give each other some friendly advice but now that their friendship has come to a tragic end, alot of bitterness surrounds their relationship.

"Lex dont try and cover it up...the days of me believing your lies are over." - Clark

Was Clark refering and expressing his anger to how Lex setup the whole thing in "Mortal" to test him or just simply just about the lethal weapon Lex is testing? Up to now Lex still has not owned up to what he done.

I love the way how Clark throws his (Lex's) own words back at Lex. Lex really felt like he was being judged and pushed around with that classic expression of his after losing an argument...it almost felt like he was being provoked. He doesn't like the way Clark just throws accusation at him even if there is an element of truth to all of it. It got very aggressive and shows how bitter their relationship is becoming.

Many great lines by Lex in this episode. I cant see how "You might be the big fish in the water, but up here..I'm the shark!" is cheesy to some people. That was chilling line delivered by the brilliant MR. The creepy expressions on his eyes. I like how he brought up "I guess I shouldn't be surprised there's something unsual about you..I mean you are a friend of Clark Kent" as he tortures AC. The suspicion of Clark is still there as he said those words. After being called a "tool", Lex chillingly refuses to give thirsty AC water with a sarcastic reply: "So am I (thirsty)...I have thirst for knowledge...one that never seems to get quinched", in other words his obssession with the mysterious.

When Clark came back to Lex to lecture about the "road his heading down" he brought up the fact that a "Professor of mine accused Luthorcorp of being evil....and you just being short of the devil". A great line by Clark to throw at Lex but chillingly Lex dismissed it with "you didn't tell him about my pitch fork did you?" He may have been drinking but he had that classic evil expression in his eye showing no care to what Clark was trying to advise him. It was so cold, it brought a chill down my spine to see how much Lex's character has tragically detereorated all these years.Lex before that replied with a chilling answer about the road he's heading down. "All the time (shaking his head)...it's complicated world out there clark...only the naive would view it in black and white". I immediately remember how Ryan in season 2 told Lex that it was his father who taught him that but doesn't mean it's right refering to how Lex's sees the world in shades of grey as the ends justifying the means. A misguided Lex but it's what is to be expected of this new darker character.

Lex continued to show his anger when expressed it to Clark that a few "misguided vandals" destroyed his project. Did Lex refer to AC AND Clark? Are his suspicions that Clark was involved in super speeding away? Who knows what going on in Lex's head but he's keeping it hidden after the shock and somewhat embarrassment of failing to uncover clark's secret in "Mortal".


Clark has taken up the offer of investigating Luthorcorp illegal activities, while that he should have done anyway..to hear it from someone with a somewhat unknown agenda particularly as he came out of that spaceship is dangerous move to make. Clark doesn't know that but knowing very little about his so called "Professor Milton Fine" who's agenda may be to exploit his bitter relationship with Lex for his own purposes. How does he know so much about Lex and Clark and the history between them?? I feel he's trying to gain his trust by being honest with him about Lex and his devious plans to further his dangerous objectives.

Exciting times ahead for this season's plot!

Finally I just like to bring up "Aquaman's" acting. I thought he did fine but it was hilariously cheesy. If you want cheesy lines..how about "Wet and ready bro!" or "Stay super bro". Even when he managed to free himself after being sprinkled with water.. what's with the over dramatised reaction and the growling as well as the cheesy smile? lol haha

[stargirl14]

I Think He Is Less Stronger Than Bart Cause Bart Is Fast Anywhere, But He Is Only Strong In Water!

[lex fan 10]

good episode i like aqua man is is cool. he can talk to animals awsome ;)

[Nimkong]

This episode is good, but its not the best superhero episode.Liked how its about aquaman,liked the plot and liked how lex was the bad guy

[SGuthrie27]

7 fish sticks out of 10 -- not one of my favorite JLA-hero-introducing episodes, but still, it was pretty good, and fleshed out Lois's character a little bit more.

[LoveHurts38]

Loved the episode it seemed that Clark was not in a good mood through the whole episode until, AC left :P

[wellinglover66]

One of the worst episodes of the season. I had to go into shallow mode in this one to be able to watch it.:lol:

[Supsfan]

I don't see what was wrong with Aqua, it was one of the few episodes in a rather depressing Season 5 I actually enjoyed.

[nate-dog1701d]

Clark was kind of a jerk, but it's definitely one of the more enjoyable episodes of my least favorite season. I thought it was an adequate introduction to Arthur's character.

[BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow]

Clark did have a good reason for it though even if it indeed was Aquaman. The episode's definitely one of the best of the season. Imo Smallville was always at it's best when it delved into the DC mythos with it's characters, characterization (Lex had good villain moments in there) and plots (the sonar weapon idea was great).

Too bad the show didn't know what to do with the character (Justice not included) except make him get captured for two more times without contributing that much.