clark's powers

[Reign]

To all those people who think that Clark flew in this episode, my argument rests on the fact that it is shown that his powers are not fully developed. How do I know? His clothes were torn to shreds. He has not yet developed the protective aura that helps prevent his supes outfit from being destroyed.

And might I say, he looked beat up... although did anyone see how Lana was just dangling there why he hugged her? Shows his strength, cause he wasn't even struggling... they must have hoisted her up with cables and deleted them in the editting... looked hilarious.

[prometheus04]

She's like 90 pounds and he got "beat-up" from his 5mile free fall.

[tejdog1]

Yeah, he was kinda in the ionsphere, if you didn't notice ;)

[djpnutz]

heh yeah... it looked like she wasn't actually... being lifted.. more like hovering.

[Reign]

i dont' care... his clothes have always been damaged throughout Smallville... his powers are no where near what Superman will be capable of

[Ultron]

It didn't look like Tom Welling would be straining holding her up, and she's not a big girl, anyhow. :)

[scoobycookies]

although did anyone see how Lana was just dangling there why he hugged her? Shows his strength, cause he wasn't even struggling... they must have hoisted her up with cables and deleted them in the editting... looked hilarious.
:rotfl: LOL I saw that! It was cute but too funny!

[rosewolfe87]

I don't think there were any cables. I don't think she weights that much, can't be THAT much of a struggle. And besides, Clark is HUGE!

[Kal2]

what cables? lol, Tom is a HUGE guy, he has no diffuculty in doing that

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1914/ckll8aa.jpg

and KK is short and small anyway.

[chrismalicdem05]

yeah kK is pretty smalla nd short, alto of ppl could possibly do that and it may not look like he struglgying cuz its a furhter view and darker, he could be grpping on tight and be all tensed up to keep her above ground, but msot lielky not cuzhes tall and prolly pretty strong and kk is short and is light

[chaszer]

While I agree that all Clark isn't at the peak of his powers yet, I don't think the tattered clothes are much evidence of that. His outfits have gotten damages quite a few times in the comics. Considering the fell from well above the earth, which I would guess would be high enough for friction burn to occur, then impacted the earth at terminal velocity, his clothes came through pretty well (its amazing he was wearing any).

[dancinggopher01]

You guys obviously don't have short girlfriends........

[pnagel]

Just because Clark's clothes got damaged doesn't mean his powers aren't developed. Although I do agree that they aren't yet all developed. Even if he were an adult Superman the clothes he was wearing in the episode would have been torn. Superman's aura only covers things that are very close to his skin, that's why his cape will get damaged easily and not his tights. The clothes Clark was wearing in this episode were not close enough to him that his aura would protect the material.

[sstray72]

Considering that Clark had any clothes on at all after experiencing planetary freaking RE-ENTRY (:eek: ) I think that "aura" was working plenty fine... :lol: Clark's body already has the ability to fly (keep in mind, Clark not being able to fly is a mental thing), so he just doesn't have superbreath yet.

[unPTC]

I'm irked that Clark just assumes that Chloe is still attracted to him...since he's presumably concerned that any woman might not want to be with him upon learning he's an alien, it would have been much more interesting to play that out...if he'd provoked her by saying...well, you're off the hook b/c you know what I am, but the subject of romance is off the table for us...I preferred the dynamic arouind Pete knowing Clark's secret, frankly....he was hurt at first then moved onto quiet acceptance, barely talking till the end about how the pressure felt for him...Chloe is a bit too cool with all this...her challenging Clark to tell Lana was a step in the right direction...I miss the occassionally snarky, never letting Clark off the hook Chloe...there's a danger of too much hero worship on her part...

[Liriel]

I'm not. I'm glad of it. Clark is so worried about how everyone will take his secret. He saw how Chloe took it and is confident that her feelings for him have not changed just because he's from another planet - that's good.

Chloe was quite adamant in being positive towards Clark when he told her. If he'd misread those signs he'd have been a Big, really Dumb Alien.

[BrianD]

Originally posted by sstray72
Considering that Clark had any clothes on at all after experiencing planetary freaking RE-ENTRY (:eek: ) I think that "aura" was working plenty fine... :lol: Clark's body already has the ability to fly (keep in mind, Clark not being able to fly is a mental thing), so he just doesn't have superbreath yet.

yea i agree, clark can already fly, he just doesnt know he can yet. kinda like in Spiderman 2 where he loses his powers, it was only in his mind, resulting from emotional stress, which clark has a lot of. and they already said clark learned some new stuff in the FoS and that he would have a new ability this season. its only a matter of time...

[mvblacnyte]

OK, folks, I'm kinda surprised that no one has mentioned one minor fact... the protective aura was an invention of John Byrne in the Man of Steel mini, post-Crisis. Pre-Crisis Superman (which current comics are gravitating toward, and AlMiles have said is one of their main influences in creating their Superman), there WAS no aura. Clark's street clothes didn't get torn up because he treated them with special chemicals to make them impervious to fire or friction, as well as making them generally more tear-resistant. And his Super-Suit was, pre-Crisis, made from baby blankets from Krypton, which like ALL matter from Krypton was supposed to be indestructible as well.

[SmallvilleObsessed]

Originally posted by Reign
To all those people who think that Clark flew in this episode, my argument rests on the fact that it is shown that his powers are not fully developed. How do I know? His clothes were torn to shreds. He has not yet developed the protective aura that helps prevent his supes outfit from being destroyed.

How do you think he WASN'T flying? It was pretty obvious that's the only way he could get into space :lol: Didn't you see the power suction like from Crusade? So yes, he can fly.

[thmallville]

I almost died when I saw him fly... I am wondering how come ALL of his clothes aren't burned off though.

[mvblacnyte]

Originally posted by SmallvilleObsessed
How do you think he WASN'T flying? It was pretty obvious that's the only way he could get into space :lol: Didn't you see the power suction like from Crusade? So yes, he can fly.

He jumped... and the "power suction" was a special effect, comic-book style, representing the shock waves/air compression from him squatting so quickly and then moving upward with so much force. It very much resembles what you see when a gunshot is played in very, very slow motion. It appears as if there's some kind of wave of air compression around the object that's accellerating so quickly.

If he had flown, why would he have needed to hand-over-hand it up the missile? Why would he have slid down the side of the rocket as it was going up?

As for that being the only way he could get into space... dude... he was on a rocket. LOL... He jumped high enough and fast enough to catch the rocket when it was only a few hundred feet up, and then rode it to space.

So, nahh, sorry folks, Clark still has his little psychological block about flying.

And as far as his clothes... think back a couple years. He was thrown in a blast furnace and came out naked. You can BET that re-entry gets a LOT hotter than that. :lol:

[sunshine1973]

he is only a teenager for crying out loud... but he is getting stronger as he grows and develops and wil be entirely SUPER one day.

[Ultron]

Originally posted by mvblacnyte
OK, folks, I'm kinda surprised that no one has mentioned one minor fact... the protective aura was an invention of John Byrne in the Man of Steel mini, post-Crisis. Pre-Crisis Superman (which current comics are gravitating toward, and AlMiles have said is one of their main influences in creating their Superman), there WAS no aura.

Well keep in mind Smallville isn't just based off of the pre-Crisis DC universe. More than that, Bryne's explanations have applied to the pre-Crisis universe such as how Superman can carry battleships without puncturing the hull, among a variety of things that occured pre and post-Crisis.

I've seen this topic brought up under a few different threads and I think the distinction shouldn't be lost that the aura doesn't protect Superman from everything, but it will do things like help minimize atmospheric effects against him.

Think about this: how could he get Chloe from the Artic (or wherever) to a Yukon hospital in seconds or minutes? Not without killing her from the air pressure, if not lack of oxygen. That aura basically protected her from those atmospheric effects. But if someone fired a bullet at her in his arms, she'd still be struck by it.

Sure it's pseudo-science but the main thing to remember is that such an aura isn't like an impenatrable force field. :)

[philterman15]

how long did clark go without his powers i know it was three episodes but how many days

[Billy Jor-El]

I would think some time as look at the Kent house. Wasn't it pretty much wasted by the meteor shower, and in "Hidden" even the knick knacks are back in place. Either many weeks have elapsed or while Clark is powerless they got some dang energetic elves 'round da place.....

[kryptonite-proof]

A few months roughly. From the day he graduated from high school to the day Chloe was planning to drive to Met. U. (roughly late May to mid/late August)

[philterman15]

how long did clark not have his powers for in season 5 i no it was three episodes but how many days

[smallvillerox05]

More than 4 weeks going purely conversationally.

Lex said in Mortal that it had been "weeks" since he brought her back from the hospital (at the end of Arrival)

Lex said in Hidden that "Lionel" had been in Belle Reve for "weeks" drawing Kryptonian symbols. Lex put "Lionel" into Belle Reve at the beginning of Mortal.

[philterman15]

in season 5 how long did clark not have his powers i no it was three episodes but in days

[TheRealClarkKent]

In both episodes they refered to past events in "weeks". So therefore i would asume it would be "weeks". I believe that these were the summer episodes. And starting with Aquaman one, they will be in the "school start period" So in days i would say three months, say, 90 days?

[philterman15]

thanks

[Reign]

i have a short girlfriend who weighs 95 lbs, thank you! and i know that gravity pulls her down even if i don't struggle picking her up... but look at the picture that was posted... gravity isn't acting on her at all... there should be a slight slouching effect

and tom welling is definitely not huge... he's tall, but not huge... aquaman's not even huge

[Ultron]

I did more than look at a picture. I have the episode on VCR. And she's not being propped up by anything. Tom's literally more than twice her size, much of it muscle. She's a skinny little thing.

[octagonalkey]

Ok my opinion on the whole flying thing, Clark can fly but he still doesn't know how. If you think he flew in this episode then you're wrong because if he knew how he would have flew off the piece that was falling to the earth en he wouldn't be so messed up:D .

His powers are usually coming forward when he is in extreme situations and maybe that will be the same thing with flying. I think it's great that there still keeping this power for them. It actually giving us something to look forward too:-).

In this episode I actually saw " Superman" for the first time or at least a part of him.

GREAT

[Daydrmrzzz]

I think I'll weigh in on the side of the "He flew" crowd. Along with the same ripple effect seen in Crusade indicating flight, If you look close, you'll see that he accelerated AFTER he left the ground. He might not have full control over his flight yet, but at least he can do it. I was supprised he didn't mention anything about it to his parents or Chloe (Must have had too much else on his mind).

[spideyfan]

Originally posted by Reign
i dont' care... his clothes have always been damaged throughout Smallville... his powers are no where near what Superman will be capable of

WELL SAID! SUpes is capable of a whole lot more than struggling to stop a missle!

BUT the team did a SUPER job of this effect, and I thought I was actually watching a movie. Thumbs up to them.

Also yea I guess he hasnt fully developed the aura, although I assume some of it is there.

As long as they keep super jumping though, I can hold off on flying for another season :)

[Indiago Child]

I think I'll weigh in on the side of the "He flew" crowd. Along with the same ripple effect seen in Crusade indicating flight, If you look close, you'll see that he accelerated AFTER he left the ground. He might not have full control over his flight yet, but at least he can do it. I was supprised he didn't mention anything about it to his parents or Chloe (Must have had too much else on his mind).
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Ill have to agree here as I watched it again and did indeed notice that he accelerated after he had left the ground, that and the fact that there was the same ripple on the ground as there was in crusade, as for why he slipped down the rocket was because he stopped flying when he caught up with it, and since this is CKs first time flying as CK I think he did really well, plus as he is still not keen on heights im sure he needed a new set of boxers when he got back to earth as well.

[ISUZU]

I think he has all his powers - he just does not know how to use them fully yet. All in good time I guess. A few power training courses with Jor-El/Lion-El and he will get his certifications.

[chloes]

clark explaning the incident to chloe in the barn at the end and showing the wound to chloe, and chloe touching it and seeing it has healed and talking about lana and chloe explaning lana has a right to know and clark saying no he cannot tell her and lana will not take it the way chloe reacted and chloe explaining about the secret and why she likes it and the secret before explaining the mistake he made. and someone is going to have to pay for it.

why do you think chloe said to clark after this explaning someone is going to die and telling lana he will not tell her his secret to lana and consequences of his actions.

[cncsweetiegal]

Do you have a question...??

[therip]

yeah all you did was explain the scene everyone saw