My only gripe about this episode...

[Nospam]

My only gripe with the episode was when Clark returned to Smallville he just forgets about Chloe. She was kidnapped by a MURDERER and pyscho and Clark decides to run home instead of making sure she was OK. Left me with a bad feeling.

I realize they were trying to cover a lot of ground by the end of the episode, but at least tie the loose ends together with a quick mention like "thanks for grabbing me from the missile silo" or "thanks for checking up on me" or something. Clark's comment in the loft, "Oh, I see you're OK" was just cold in my book.

Otherwise an awesome episode and the jump/flight scene just blew me away! This season is shaping up quite nicely and Lex is well on his way to MB status trying build a wedge between Clark and Lana. From the actions of Lex and the discussion with Chloe, I foresee that Clark will play into the hands of Lex and cause the downfall of his relationship with Lana by withholding his secret from her. At least Lex got a clue this episode and realized that no one comes back from the dead without a very good explanation. He has firm reasoning now to know that Clark is unique and his pursuit of the nature of this uniqueness will drive him to darkness. This is the ultimate irony of Smallville, that the hero is the progenentor of his own greatest enemy.

[Yuui]

I believe that to be a rather important story plothole. Although I had not discerned it prior to your mention.

'^_^

[rosewolfe87]

If I was shot and killed and some how revived, I wouldn't be thinking of any friends, I would go staight to my parents and loved one first. I have no complaints, except that Clark is stupid for not telling Lana the truth about himself. I mean geez, she gave him her virginity!

[Logistics]

my only complaint. is the writers showing Lana standing in the doorway watching clark die. then coming BACK to see that he has vanished into thin air. THEN seeing him alive and burnt to hell, and dressed back at the kent farm.

she didnt even question clark... The girl who asks questions about everything. didnt ask how her boyfriend ended up fine and alive after she jsut saw him die. horrible.

if they were going to lead us on like this. i wish they would have atleast not had lana outside the room looking in crying her eyes out while he flat lined. because that to me is just wrong. it bothers me. how could she not question!?!?!?!

wow. that bugs me.

[rosewolfe87]

The episode wasn't long enough for her to question. She probably will the next episode.

[Logistics]

Originally posted by rosewolfe87
The episode wasn't long enough for her to question. She probably will the next episode.

i hope you are right. Rosewolfe. because id liek to see this get touched on. although i have a feeling its going to be one of those swept under the carpet things.


i can only hope you are right.

otherwise i loved the episode. and where the season is going. :)

[rosewolfe87]

I don't really think I'm going to enjoy the season too much. I'm a fan of Clana, and the writers have said that this season will be based off of Clark's best friend knowing his secret, and his girlfriend doesn't. I think it's going to be heartbreaking.

[CheckIt!]

Clark is an idiot to not tell Lana at this point. She saw him die for crying out loud, not to mention
she gave him her virginity! as another poster acutely pointed out already.

But it looks like Clark is going to continue on with his old shenanigans and lamo excuses untill it gets to a point where Lex will start sounding more logical and honest than Clark. Thus Lana will turn on Clark and lean towards Lex... Argh!

[BeldarofRemulak]

I really didn't like how they had doctor present Clark's *Death* she almost said your son is dead... man ease the parents into it!

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by rosewolfe87
If I was shot and killed and some how revived, I wouldn't be thinking of any friends, I would go staight to my parents and loved one first. I have no complaints, except that Clark is stupid for not telling Lana the truth about himself. I mean geez, she gave him her virginity!

Wasn't it an even swap on that score? And was it really a good trade? I mean "what else are we going to do at 2 am?" doesn't seem to indicate a rabid sex drive. ;) Hehe.

Say yo, what's Lana doing with Clark's medical file? Anyone know?

[warriorrenegade]

My only gripe with this episode was the resurrection of Clark. Why didn't we get to see this? I would have liked to have seen Jor-EL place Clark on an alter, activate the "resurrection machine" and see the force that brings Clark back to life. Instead all I got to see was the tail end - a flickering light and Clark waking up. Don't get me wrong what we seen was good just I wished we could've seen more.

[runningwithscissors]

is it to much of a stretch to propose that Lana does know something about Clark but not the specifics?

The season 3 premiere, Lana meets Clark (under red kryptonite) in Metropolis and they go to bar where people call him 'Kal'. In the Season 5 premiere, the 2-bad kryptonians are looking for 'Kal (EL)'. Do you think she put 2-2 together?

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by runningwithscissors
is it to much of a stretch to propose that Lana does know something about Clark but not the specifics?

The season 3 premiere, Lana meets Clark (under red kryptonite) in Metropolis and they go to bar where people call him 'Kal'. In the Season 5 premiere, the 2-bad kryptonians are looking for 'Kal (EL)'. Do you think she put 2-2 together?

I think she's pretty close. She definitely thinks something's up, and you can see that Lex knows how to push her buttons.

My feeling at the present time is that Lex is going to feed her info little by little until she's a true believer. It may even get to the point at which she's keeping his secrets about the ship, Kryptonian lore, etc.

[prometheus04]

It's Smallville. Old men turn young, teenage girls can transform, you can be possed by a 16th century witch, geez even the Dogs are super powered. Why can't the Dead raise.....

[freddielm]

But Clark didn't know where Chloe was, how could he have rescued her?

[MayaQT]

I agree completely. After you've found your parents, your girlfriend, don't you think you should go check on your best friend? I mean, she is with the person who just SHOT YOU? Don't you think he's capable of killing again?!?!

It's like in "Spell" in the caves at the end where Lana, Lois, and Chloe are back to normal and Clark immediately looks after Lana but completely forgets Lois and Chloe. Even in the Season 4 commentary, the actors agreed that that was a dumb/selfish/one-track-minded move on Clark.

I know Clark loves Lana but do you really think he would simply just assume that Chloe was fine and not save Chloe if he could? Besides, his parents nor Lana were in danger. If you had a choice between potentially saving someone or letting someone know you're okay, I would expect Clark to save someone first and then let his loved ones know he's okay. He's not going anywhere. He could have told them ten minutes later. They would find out eventually and they would understand that he had to save someone first before letting them know.

Just when you think the writers are finally paying attention to Chloe, she gets shafted once again!

Sorry, I had to rant on this subject...

[LuthorRequiem2]

I thought the same thing about the whole "not saving Chloe" thing. He just seemed to casually say, "I see you're alright" which didn't seem like Clark at all. Maybe she called him and told him she had survived, and so he wasn't that concerned. I don't know. They should've covered that plothole better. Other than that, though, the episode was terrific.

"He has firm reasoning now to know that Clark is unique and his pursuit of the nature of this uniqueness will drive him to darkness. This is the ultimate irony of Smallville, that the hero is the progenentor of his own greatest enemy."

YES! That is TRULY the irony, and part of the tragedy. It reminds me of how Batman and the Joker created one another, in a sense. For those who do not know, Batman scared Jack Napier (his name before he was "JOKER"), and he fell into a vat of acid, thus it was Batman's fault, in a way. And in the Nicholson movie, Joker killed Bruce Wayne's parents, shaping him into Batman.

It also reminds me of Moses and Ramasese from "The Prince of Egypt". As many know from the Bible, Moses and Ramasese were raised as brothers. When Moses returns from his wanderings, he returns to free his people from Ramasese. Ramasese says, "So...you have returned, only to free them", and Moses symbolically declares their brotherly relationship to be over by handing him the royal Egyptian ring that Ramasese gave him earlier on. Ramasese eyes turn cold and he says, "Tell this God of yours I will never let your people go", and thus starts the enmity between the two.

Sorry if I rambled there. :) Just thought those were good comparisons. :)_

[Elbereth Nienna]

My only gripe, well my few gripes were that the ressurection should have been handled a bit better. Made it almost impossible for people not to suspect something and yet they make Lana all blind to it. Not to mention he was dead and then he is standing in the Kents kitchen looking like he came out of a Wiley Coyote cartoon. Meh.

The sub plot with Gabriell was a bit cheesy but at the same time I understand why it was important.

And yes, the whole leaving out of Chloe was a bit much. Although I think we were just suppose to assume that he went to get her out.

I can over look all of that because it was an overall great episode.

[runningwithscissors]

i hold the same feeling nienna....i thought that how he disappeared in the hospital was handled loosley

[Black cat]

Originally posted by LuthorRequiem2
I thought the same thing about the whole "not saving Chloe" thing. He just seemed to casually say, "I see you're alright" which didn't seem like Clark at all. Maybe she called him and told him she had survived, and so he wasn't that concerned. I don't know. They should've covered that plothole better. Other than that, though, the episode was terrific.



I agree. It seemed callus to me. Typical Clark. :rolleyes:


Originally posted by LuthorRequiem2
As many know from the Bible, Moses and Ramasese were raised as brothers.

You mean "As many know from the movie", because in the Bible when Moses returned to Egypt everyone who knew him was already dead, which is why he could return at all, and he was 70yrs old.

Just FYI. :)

[dwgebler]

I'm just glad that some of the characters ARE wondering about Clark's enigmatic reappearance in a living condition. At least they didn't do the amnesia thing, or any time-turning rubbish.
I did wonder about when Lana saw Clark was alive and I know she must be delighted, but instead of asking "How are you alive, why do you look like you just came out of an explosion and why do you not seem to be in any pain or discomfort after being shot?", she runs and hugs him...and again, Lana does not seem to wonder how he is able to lift her so easily after suffering a punctured lung - something that requires surgery and a good few weeks on your back (at least) to get over. Then she's arguing the case for Clark being 'ordinary'....?

I believe Lex is being quite perceptive when he says Lana is just telling herself that Clark is ordinary, for purposes of her relationship.