No One Dies: Only Clark's Humanity Dies

[montidatta]

Okay, I think Jor-el meant that "someone will die" in the figurative sense...not in the literal sense. I know it's easy to take this phrase literally and to start believing that one of the major cast members is slated to die by the 5th season (series?) finale, especially when we draw parallels with the Superman movie, in which Johnathan Kent died. But looking at the current DC comic universe today, we see that Johnathan Kent is alive. Also, as I understand it, Chloe is part of the DC comics universe, or that at least her appearance in a comic is pending, due to her popularity in the Smallville series. Also, I think it's important to think of Jor-el as a good guy, not a twisted figure who tests and tortures Kal-el for no reason. If anything, Jor-el's "someone will die" speech is something for us to ponder over. When we do, I believe he means that Clark will give up his humanity for good, and that his humanity will die, his future as a normal human being will die, and a part of his human soul will die. I think all along this is why Jor-el has always seemed to abrasive and cold in the Smallville series, because he has wanted Clark/Kal-el spared of having to decide between having a human life and fulfilling his destiny. The "someone will die" speech for Jor-el means that Clark's humanity has died, killing a part of his identity.

Don't worry, Chole and Johnathan Kent will be very much alive by the end of Season 5. But Clark will be less alive, and more like a Superman than we will expect. Clark Kent will be slowly killed off, replaced by his shallow, "mild-mannered reporter" alter-ego in Metropolis.

[prometheus04]

So when he said "someone you love" he ment Clark is just a little self absored:confused:

[tejdog1]

See, this would work, if not for the fact we know where this whole thing is going to end up. If Clark's 'human half', for lack of a better term, were to die, or be stripped from him, he would be Kal-El, and nothing more. A mindless, emotionless droid, esentially 'carrying out his destiny', whatever that is. And there is NO WAY Kal-El would give up his powers for Lois, as he did in one of the movies (II?).

[Lana_Lang #1]

Maybe Clark and Lana weren't "safe" and Lana is carrying Clark's mortal baby. Perhaps she will get a miscarriage therefore the life of someone Clark loves will be exchanged for his.

Or Perhaps what dies is the life he would have had with Lana?

[Ultron]

I think it's going to be Jonathan actally, a clear homage to Superman 1 and pre-Crisis continuity.

And let's be honest, who here didn't think that was a possibility in the aftermath of him getting Kryptonian powers to stop Clark in Metropolis who was under the influence of red Kryptonite?

It'll be a real tear-jerker, whoever it is. I am sure of it. :)

[Jun]

Originally posted by montidatta
Okay, I think Jor-el meant that "someone will die" in the figurative sense...not in the literal sense. I know it's easy to take this phrase literally and to start believing that one of the major cast members is slated to die by the 5th season (series?) finale, especially when we draw parallels with the Superman movie, in which Johnathan Kent died. But looking at the current DC comic universe today, we see that Johnathan Kent is alive. Also, as I understand it, Chloe is part of the DC comics universe, or that at least her appearance in a comic is pending, due to her popularity in the Smallville series. Also, I think it's important to think of Jor-el as a good guy, not a twisted figure who tests and tortures Kal-el for no reason. If anything, Jor-el's "someone will die" speech is something for us to ponder over. When we do, I believe he means that Clark will give up his humanity for good, and that his humanity will die, his future as a normal human being will die, and a part of his human soul will die. I think all along this is why Jor-el has always seemed to abrasive and cold in the Smallville series, because he has wanted Clark/Kal-el spared of having to decide between having a human life and fulfilling his destiny. The "someone will die" speech for Jor-el means that Clark's humanity has died, killing a part of his identity.

Don't worry, Chole and Johnathan Kent will be very much alive by the end of Season 5. But Clark will be less alive, and more like a Superman than we will expect. Clark Kent will be slowly killed off, replaced by his shallow, "mild-mannered reporter" alter-ego in Metropolis.

VERY interesting conclusion, well thought out.

[Ultron]

It could also mean Lex, whom he ultimately loses his friendship over everything.

[SuperStupidPower]

The humanity of Clark is what connects him to the audience... Clark Kent IS the real person... superman is the secret identity.

[cmgames]

This sounds like a terrible idea like what the producers would come up with. Talk about cop out, I don't even wanna think about it. Bad, bad idea!

[slave2moonlight]

This is a hook that will probably run through the whole season, and, in the end, someone is going to die. It probably won't be someone we expect, maybe it'll be someone totally new, but someone's gonna die. They may come back from the dead, that's possible, especially if it's someone major. I say it is either Jonathan or Chloe, more likely Chloe, but that's probably just what we are wanted to think. Even more likely, it will probably be Lionel. I know, Clark doesn't love him, but it was my impression that Jor-El intends to continue "visiting" Clark in his body. Clark, in a way, will grow to love him (when he's Jor-El), and then he dies. This not only will fulfull the prophecy, but it will also make Jor-El more endearing. He won't have killed any of Clark's loved ones, but rather, sacrificed himself in a way.

[HotRodTE]

you Know if that Big theory it is possible you reading too far into it.

I think Johnthan going to die. If you remember back in Exile he said are you willing to sacrifice anything.

so i think either Johnthan or Martha gonna die.

the Reason I think it could be be Martha is
we all know SV different then the comics. With the who Pete knowing Clarks secret.
Lana being a Brunette an LEx and Clark frendship.

So i could be Martha but its probably Johnthan.

[slave2moonlight]

I read somewhere that Lex and Clark WERE friends as kids in the comics (the OLD comics). And, I think they were in the Superboy TV show too. Well, maybe they weren't friends, but I know Lex was on it, and it was about their college years, with Lana as the love interest (as best I remember from when I was very little watching this 80's show).

[kryptonite-proof]

I see what you mean about his humanity, but IMO he had to have meant a literal death. He said that Clark was brought back to life with the life force of another. How could he borrow his own life force to be resurrected? That just doesn't really make sense.

Of course, the other thing that doesn't make sense is, if this person's life force were used to bring Clark back to life, why isn't he/she dead already? Unless of course he meant his own life force. That is, he transferred his own powers into Clark, making him now vulnerable in Lionel's body, which means he will eventually die. This would explain the flash of light when they hugged and why he isn't dead already. The question is, did Jor-El have any "life force" seeing as how he died long ago on Krypton?

[alexander746]

well it could be jor-el himself that dies. i mean the jor-el we saw in hidden was more like a good father and if he can continue to communicate with clark and help him maybe Clark will grow to love him but by the end of the season jor-el's lifeforce will be gone. I like that idea of giving jor-el a chance to be a good father before he's gone from the show and this way Chloe or Jonathon dont have to die.

[jabroni]

Jonathan will die, I think we can all deposit that in the bank....

If no one dies, Jor-El is a liar and unrighteous father, neither of which is the case...

[No-El]

Yes.

Jor-El did tell him:

"...love of humanity putting the planet Earth as risk has always been your weakness Kal-El..."

And we all know the "...Human heart is much more fragile than Kryptonian heart.."

[smallvillerox05]

Of course, the other thing that doesn't make sense is, if this person's life force were used to bring Clark back to life, why isn't he/she dead already? Unless of course he meant his own life force. That is, he transferred his own powers into Clark, making him now vulnerable in Lionel's body, which means he will eventually die. This would explain the flash of light when they hugged and why he isn't dead already. The question is, did Jor-El have any "life force" seeing as how he died long ago on Krypton?
Yes, the sacraficing person's life force would have to be drained to save Clark, and no cast member's life force was drained. Well, except Jor-El's. ;) That'd explain why Lionel was back to normal at the end.

well it could be jor-el himself that dies.
I agree. (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=43040)

[Jellie]

I hope the jorel theory is the correct one. Im with the guys who believe he was the sacrifice

[Hugo]

I think the thorey on "the real Clark" dying and becoming the geeky mild mannered reporter is what's going to happen.

[xrayvision]

I think if Clark's human side was to die or become a lesser part of him, they should do it where he gets exposed to black kryptonite and has a battle with his Kal-El self. I've been dreaming of such a battle for a long time. They should have them split in the episode before the season finale, then have a huge battle throughout the finale, and have a cliffhanger where the battle ends in the next season opener. The battle would end with Clark losing to Kal-El and the 2 re-emerging, but with Clark now being more Superman minded and have far less desires of a normal life.

The viewers in this case would have a sense of loss (just like we sensed the loss of the lovable goodguy Lex at the end of Onyx).

I think this would work so much better than a death and would bring a great deal of action. This could also explain his getting over Lana and moving forward (hopefully with Chloe since she's like the Lois Lane of the comics, but better if you ask me).

[smallvillerox05]

I think if Clark's human side was to die or become a lesser part of him, they should do it where he gets exposed to black kryptonite and has a battle with his Kal-El self. I've been dreaming of such a battle for a long time. They should have them split in the episode before the season finale, then have a huge battle throughout the finale, and have a cliffhanger where the battle ends in the next season opener. The battle would end with Clark losing to Kal-El and the 2 re-emerging, but with Clark now being more Superman minded and have far less desires of a normal life.

The viewers in this case would have a sense of loss (just like we sensed the loss of the lovable goodguy Lex at the end of Onyx).

I think this would work so much better than a death and would bring a great deal of action. This could also explain his getting over Lana and moving forward (hopefully with Chloe since she's like the Lois Lane of the comics, but better if you ask me).
That won't work, then endless posters will go crazy yelling the word "lightswitching!!!!!!!!" over and over again. :(

[xrayvision]

Well, then they should do something where he puts himself as an obstacle in front of the person whose life force will be sucked away. That would be very Superman-like, especially if right afterwards he finally accepts his destiny and goes to Jor-El.

Though, they should really have a Clark vs. Kal-El fight in some other episode (should be a finale). I think this could rock the ratings if advertised correctly.

[Kryptomaniac]

I hope you are right and nobody dies. Didn't Jonathan already do that life force transfer miracle in Tailisman (sp?), when Clark got stabbed with the Numan knife and was dying? Must be the Kryptonian version of a trip to the Doc In The Box.

[fattire]

na, that would be way too confusing for the average viewer. someone is going to physically die.

[Ultron]

Yeah I was thinking, someone will actually die, because it was explained that someone's life force will be exchanged for Clark's.

[Chesay]

I think Lana Lang 1 is right. If Lana got pregnant by Clark and then had complications that resulted in her not being able to have children it would be reason enough for her to break up with him, especially if she found out that he was an alien and didn't tell her before they had relations. Whether his being alien had anything to do with it or not wouldn't matter in comparison to the deception Lana would have to feel. She is too sensitive to Secrets and Lies to be able to overlook such a big sin of omission by Clark. Then of course Clark would have to feel the guilt he always feels when he thinks anything he said or did was at fault. Then he loses someone close to him without anyone other than the baby having to die. Sounds like a fan fiction doesn't it? Anything to spare my favorites (Chloe, Lionel, and Jonathan) from the death camp.

[kryptonite-proof]

This is just my opinion, but I really don't see them playing the unborn child of Superman card.

[spideyfan]

No supes dont have children...So for them to introduce a child when he was 'mortal would be WAY off canon and just wrong.

well unless you talk about Kindom Come, where Wonder Woman is pregnant with Supes kid.

[hyped1]

Jonathan DIES.

1. HE is the father Clark Loves
2. HE has bum ticker and has been ILL several times already.

3. Like Uncle Ben to Peter Parker, Father figure dies and he goe on to fulfill his destiny.

NOBODY ELSE DYING MAKES SENSE!

Besides at some point Pa Kent HAS to die, it IS part of mythos/Story since day 1!!

[Superman790]

Originally posted by SuperStupidPower
The humanity of Clark is what connects him to the audience... Clark Kent IS the real person... superman is the secret identity.

I am going to play devil's advocate on that and say that Superman is the real person...Clark Kent is the secret identity.

[PATMAN]

I believe its Jor-El

[ryanjm]

I agree with the Jonathan dies guess.
Any of you going with the whole "a part of him dies" or other guesses is not remembering what was said in the episode. Someone you love will die is pretty damn obvious to me to mean that one of the main characters will die. Any other guesses are rather large stretches of the imagination and have a 99% chance of being wrong.

[smallvillerox05]

Jonathan DIES.

NOBODY ELSE DYING MAKES SENSE!
Jor-El sacraficing himself makes sense.

Besides at some point Pa Kent HAS to die, it IS part of mythos/Story since day 1!!
Pre crisis that's true, but post crisis both parents have been alive and well. They were both alive when Superman died (in fact, Jonathan brought Clark back from the dead after a heart attack, when his heart stopped) Both parents were alive during Lois and Clark as well. So just because pre crisis and the movies had Bo Kent die, doesn't mean Smallville will.