How did they wake up in Clark's room?

[Reign]

I thought at the end of "Mortal," that they were at Lana's place and there were candles all around. Don't tell me that, in the middle of it, they decided to sneak into the Kent home and into Clark's room.

[Welling21]

well they stayed at Lana's apparently til 2am according to what Lana said in Clark's bedroom, and she returned w/Clark when he went home and she stayed over at Clark's and they accidentley fell asleep.

[Reign]

So they snuck in. Right. That's exactly what I would have done if I was 18 and still living with my parents.

[Danelle]

Really? I was just under the impression that this was a different night, and they were just doing "it" again.

[cayayofm]

Obviously time passed, the house was entierly rebuilded.

[hahnyc87]

lol yea good lookin caya

[prometheus04]

People, it was both of thier first time, I'm sure they did it on the tables of the Talon, the back of Clark's truck, the barn and his bedroom.

[rx7g3n3s1s]

hahaha nice one

[smallvillerocks45]

What I want to know --- or maybe not know, but I think it's funny anyway --- what were they doing before they fell asleep (duh, I know what), but I mean, how did Lana's shoe end up on the shelf? LoL that part made me laugh.

[prometheus04]

Well one thing was for sure Clark was really HUMAN

"He fell asleep after":rotfl:

[Hydra]

haha. Well Prometheus, if your right, and they did do it on the tables, the truck, and every other place that one can do it... I'm not suprised he fell asleep when the night was through. lol

Seriously though... this was obviously a different night.

[Yuui]

Originally posted by Hydra
haha. Well Prometheus, if your right, and they did do it on the tables, the truck, and every other place that one can do it... I'm not suprised he fell asleep when the night was through. lol

Seriously though... this was obviously a different night.

Yes, that's what I'm assuming.

As the saying (I just created at this moment) goes, "Virgins have an insatiable carnal appetite like bunnies" or simply "Clark and Lana are like bunnies."

:D

[prometheus04]

Clark's been watching Lana through his telescope for years, I'm sure he made a few Dry(wet) runs over the years:lol: :cool:

[Reign]

Lana said that was the best sleep she's had in weeks... I'm assuming that implies that it's the sleep resulting from her first ever night of sex.

The Kent's home might not necessarily be entirely rebuilt yet, but rather tidied up. The frame that we saw them erect was the barn... hence the reference to barnraising in Arrival. It's been several weeks, so Martha could have cleaned up the place significantly... and of course their home is the first place to fix up.

I think it's just a plot flaw.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Reign
Lana said that was the best sleep she's had in weeks... I'm assuming that implies that it's the sleep resulting from her first ever night of sex.

The Kent's home might not necessarily be entirely rebuilt yet, but rather tidied up. The frame that we saw them erect was the barn... hence the reference to barnraising in Arrival. It's been several weeks, so Martha could have cleaned up the place significantly... and of course their home is the first place to fix up.

I think it's just a plot flaw.


The barn raising in Arrival wasnt the Kent's barn. Lana and Clark had to walk up a hill, through some woods to get to the Kent house. The kents Barn is closer to the house.

Its obvious they didn't have sex at the end of Mortal. WHy does everyone think they did?? Just because they were making out on the floor and it cut to the window? Its obvious they didnt have sex then and this was a completely different day.

Lana said "I told you we shouldve gone to the Talon". If this is the morning after the last scene of Mortal than that line doesnt make sense because they were already at the Talon in Mortal.

They didnt have sex at the end of Mortal, it was just another Smallville makeout session.

[vanilla_bandit]

They did have sex at the end of mortal and obviously kept on having sex on several ocassions. The morning that this episode took place in was some days after mortal.

[Reign]

I guess I can buy that now that I think more about it... but you would think they'd go back to Lana's place instead... sheesh

[prometheus04]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
The barn raising in Arrival wasnt the Kent's barn. Lana and Clark had to walk up a hill, through some woods to get to the Kent house. The kents Barn is closer to the house.

Its obvious they didn't have sex at the end of Mortal. WHy does everyone think they did?? Just because they were making out on the floor and it cut to the window? Its obvious they didnt have sex then and this was a completely different day.

Lana said "I told you we shouldve gone to the Talon". If this is the morning after the last scene of Mortal than that line doesnt make sense because they were already at the Talon in Mortal.

They didnt have sex at the end of Mortal, it was just another Smallville makeout session.
What show did you watch she said "we should have stayed at the Talon" and why did Clark tell his mother they were "safe"
also lana said "we made this desision together"

[Reign]

uh... if you didn't get the last two lines prometheus, i think i need a permission slip from your parents as a waiver so i can tell you

[smallvillerox05]

Hidden took place weeks after Mortal, as was stated a few times.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by prometheus04
What show did you watch she said "we should have stayed at the Talon" and why did Clark tell his mother they were "safe"
also lana said "we made this desision together"

Umm no.. go back and watch it she clearly says "I told you we shouldve gone to the talon" Its clear as day

Why did Clark tell his mom they were safe? Because he used a condom! What kind of question is that? Yeah.. they made the decision together.. before they had sex... ?? your point?

It makes no sense for them to start at the talon and end up at Clarks, which is why they didnt do this. The writers arent going to make that big of a mistake.

Its obvious this was the first time because lana says "I havent slept that good in weeks" why? because she just had sex for the first time!

WHy does everyone think they had sex in Mortal? There was no hint of this, at all. People see Clark and Lana making out on the floor and it cuts to the wind blowing through a window and that means they had sex?

[vanilla_bandit]

They didn't start at the Talon and end up at the Kent house. They did it in both places at different times. The writers probably just had them do it at the Kent house in this episode because they needed a way to get Clark's parents to find out he's not a virgin anymore. And it was very obvious they did it in mortal, they just decided to do it in an untacky manner so that is why it is not so obvious for some people.

[Ultron]

A lot of factors make us believe they had sex at the end of Mortal. You hit a couple yourself. But that's beside the point of this thread.

At first I thought this was the day after Mortal, but by the end of the episode I tend to think it's a few days later. Maybe just the next night.

[NotTodayPete]

Originally posted by Sydafex7


WHy does everyone think they had sex in Mortal? There was no hint of this, at all.

No hint? maybe Clark and Lana talking about having their first time, before being interrupted at the beginning of the show. Natural to assume they would pick up where they left off next time they were alone. Not to mention taking each others clothes off. Could that be a hint? no? maybe?

[rosewolfe87]

*sigh* They probably had sex at the Talon, and then Lana probably drove Clark home and decided they didn't want to sleep yet, so they snuck into Clark's bedroom, they didn't intend on going to sleep, which is why they were shocked when they did, and Lana probably told him, as they started to have sex again, that they should probably go to the Talon. But they didn't. It's the same night, time has not passed.

[Ultron]

Yeah I am on the fence on whether or not it's the next morning after Mortal. If anyone finds an interview revealing the answer, I recommend they post it. :)

[Randy G.]

Don't assume that the time frame in the episodes, is so close together.

The season opener was right after graduation (beginning of Summer)

Episode 2, some time had passed, as they rebuilt the town.

Episode 3, We know that more time has passed, because The Kent house is done, AND......Chloe is packing her stuff & getting ready to head off to school.

Clark & Lana, basically had an uneventful summer (except for doin' it like rabbits).

They always try to catch us up with real time after summer break, so the first few episodes skip some time in between. :)

[jaime,oburg]

This episode I think was confusing to the fans because Clark and Lana moved the action into Clark's bedroom the morning after was so that they could get caught by Ma & Pa Kent. I have to believe that it was the morning after the first time at The Talon because TPTB made it a point to have Lana quick get dressed in the same shirt Clark was wearing when she took it off him the night before at the The Talon.

[Sydafex7]

alright, so fine. I can agree that they did it both places.

With that being said, I know time has passed since Mortal and this is not the morning after. One line proves this and that is

Lana: I told you we shouldve gone to the talon.
Now, maybe the line shouldve been "Stayed" at the talon, but thats not what she said.(ive listened a ton of times, its definitely "gone"

If this indeed took place the morning after the last scene in Mortal than why say that? They were already at the talon, no need to "go there" they were already there. Damn, this is confusing as hell.


Originally posted by Randy G.
They always try to catch us up with real time after summer break, so the first few episodes skip some time in between

This is the first time weve gotten even a hint at summer in Smallville, they always skip ahead 3 months, so thats another thing thats kind of weird

[Brainiac_13]

Re: Sex in 'Mortal', sex in general:

So, when Martha asks about safety and Clark says they were safe, what was he talking about?

Also: Clark says 'like you guys never did it' what is he talking about there?

I think the other issue has been covered: This was a different 'morning after'.

[GhostRider]

I can't believe this is even being debated. Yes, they did have sex at the end of Mortal. But Hidden takes place several weeks afterwards. At the end of Mortal you can cleary see that the Kent house is under repair. In Hidden it is finished. Clark and Lana have probably been having sex all summer. It's now nearly fall as Chloe was on her way to Met U.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

I can't believe no one else has thought of this, but...

If it was the morning after Mortal, Clark would have had a busted lip and Lex would still have been a bit bruised/banged up as well.

Like mentioned before, the house was seriously banged up in Mortal (and without AC and/or power b/c of Clark crushing the power thing) and there is no way it could go from that to an air-conditioned, powered-up, perfectly clean and decorated house overnight.

As for whoever said it must be the first time because Lana said it was the best night's sleep she'd had in weeks, uh... I think it's a safe assumption to make that it's the first time she'd slept in Clark's bed. It could also possibly be the first time they'd actually slept together (the sleeping part, that is ;)).

Maybe she just felt safe and wholly comfortable with Clark in his room ... heck, if I had Lex Luthor coming into my apartment on his own accord I'd be a little freaked at sleeping in my own bed, too ;)

[superhippie2000]

well they woke up because the radio alram clock wentoff

[Kal-el_cutie950]

I didn't think of this as I watched Hidden. You guys make everything so complicated! But it has to be the end of summer, Chloe's off to college. But Lana's "best sleep in a while" comment throws it off, because after their first time they would sleep very very well. They could've done it at the Talon and then went back to Clark's, "there's nothing else to do at 2 o'clock in the moring", and then did it again there. Again, the Kent house just doesn't magically rebuild itself ver night, although it was hit but a Kryptonite metor and could've got superhouse powers...but that's another story.

[corkyfuzz]

ha, superhouse powers. cute.

hidden was definately a while after mortal. it's so obvious.

[Leviathan]

Bingo: it was a different morning after. With episodes, it's better to conclude that a couple weeks or more has gone by in each episode unless implicity suggested that there are days with one another.

[Sydafex7]

I mean if the line was "I tols you we shouldve stayed at the talon" then it would make sense for it to be the same night. But , the line was "I told you we shouldve gone to the talon"

Also, the house is rebuilt. I just didnt think that they'd have Lana and Clark doing it twice. I figured it would happen once and they'd get busted by the kents. Which is why I didnt think they did it at the end of Mortal, but I guess they did. I mean Lana's whole "We made this decision together" line made me think they made the decision to sleep together that night and thatw as the firdt night.

See to me, they didn't make a big deal about it in Mortal. It was too simple of a thing. They are making out on the floor and they cut to the window. But in hidden, it was a huge part of the episode. If Clark were to lose his virignityon the show, I'd expect it to go something like it did in Hidden, not mortal, which is why I just figured they didnt do it in mortal, they did it in Hidden, OR it was the same night and they just ended their sexual adventure :D at the Kents. But that obviously didnt happen either. So the only thing that makes sense is they did both times, but TPTB decided to make a big deal about the second time, not the actual time they lost their viriginity, which is weird to me.

[jaime,oburg]

I don't think TPTB would have made it a point to show Lana getting dressed in the shirt that she took off Clark the first time at the Talon. This to me is too prove it was the morning after regardless of how quickly the Kent's were able to get their house together and Chloe getting ready to head off to Met U a little early.(Hey she has been wanting to start her career asap) This epi is confusing, but I still think that it was afterglow of Clana first sex. Moving the action from the Talon was to make the whole getting caught scenerio work.

[Sydafex7]

Theydidnt make it a big deal to show her getting dressed in the same shirt as Mortal. I mean the camera was maybe on her gettind ressed for about 3 seconds, and you can barely see the color of the shirt anyways. I don't know manye people who actually looked at her gettin dressed and thought of the shirt in Mortal.

Lanas line "I told you we shouldve gone to the Talon" just proves that this isnt the same night. WHy say we sholdve gone if they were already there?

[KalLover07]

This isn't Lost where every scene has to be disected to find clues. Time has obviously passed. We can't really expect any kind of realism in the show.

[smallvillerox05]

HELLO?!?!?!

Hidden took place WEEKS after Mortal. I already said that!!!

The proof: Lex told "Lionel" in his Belle Reve cell that he (Lionel) has been drawing the symbols on the walls for "WEEKS". In case you guys didn't notice, "Lionel" wasn't even in Belle Reve until the beginning of Mortal. And the walls were spotless when he was put in there!!

I rest my case.

This episode I think was confusing to the fans because Clark and Lana moved the action into Clark's bedroom the morning after was so that they could get caught by Ma & Pa Kent. I have to believe that it was the morning after the first time at The Talon because TPTB made it a point to have Lana quick get dressed in the same shirt Clark was wearing when she took it off him the night before at the The Talon.
Just out of curiosity, have you seen the show enough to realize that Clark has a total of like 4 different shirts? ;) :p

[KalLover07]

That is so true. And I love Clark and all but I am *officially* sick of that damn red jacket. Is there a permanent chill in smallville?

[corkyfuzz]

hey, i like clarks jackets! ha

smallvillerox05: i didn't even notice that part. ha, that is definate proof that hidden was weeks after mortal.

i think this thread is stupid.

[smallvillerox05]

i think this thread is stupid.
I agree.

[Dimensio]

Originally posted by Sydafex7


They didnt have sex at the end of Mortal, it was just another Smallville makeout session.

And Willow and Tara really weren't lesbian lovers.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Dimensio
And Willow and Tara really weren't lesbian lovers.


?? You can come up with something better than that...

[Dimensio]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
?? You can come up with something better than that...

But I don't need to do that. I'm merely pointing out the paralells I see with the denial here and the denial on Buffy regarding that particular arrangement.

The scene showed Clark and Lana lowering down to the floor. The camera panned to an open window and the wind blew in the curtains. Now, given that the writers and producers of the show have made it abundantly clear that they cannot avoid any cinematic/television cliché when it comes to creating a common scene, what is anyone supposed to think has happened?

Come on. If you saw a scene on the show wherein a very bad and obvious camera filter was used to cover up what was obviously a sunny sky during shooting and occasionally saw the sprinklers in the background creating "rain", you'd know it was a funeral. Why is it so hard to accept that the typical clichés of a love scene aren't an indicator of an actual love scene?

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Dimensio
But I don't need to do that. I'm merely pointing out the paralells I see with the denial here and the denial on Buffy regarding that particular arrangement.

The scene showed Clark and Lana lowering down to the floor. The camera panned to an open window and the wind blew in the curtains. Now, given that the writers and producers of the show have made it abundantly clear that they cannot avoid any cinematic/television cliché when it comes to creating a common scene, what is anyone supposed to think has happened?

Come on. If you saw a scene on the show wherein a very bad and obvious camera filter was used to cover up what was obviously a sunny sky during shooting and occasionally saw the sprinklers in the background creating "rain", you'd know it was a funeral. Why is it so hard to accept that the typical clichés of a love scene aren't an indicator of an actual love scene?

Since that post that you quoted, I've already stated that I can agree they did it in both episodes, Mortal and Hidden, so first off, there was no need for you to keep arguing, because I already admitted my mistake.

With that being said, if I were to still argue my point it would be this.

Clark and Lana's first time having sex is a pretty big thing for the show. At the end of Mortal, a big deal WAS NOT MADE.
In Hidden, a big deal WAS MADE. The dialogue of the characters tols us that they did indeed have sex. It was right there and it was easy for us to see that. It wasnt however easy for us to see that in Mortal.
Honestly, I figured they would show us their first times, but I never expected them to show anything beyond this, in which they did. They showed us a first time (very poorly in Mortal) and then they showed us again in Hidden.

This is why I originally believed that they didnt do it in Mortal, but they did it in Hidden because they actually talked about it ("me and clark made the decision together", "Tell me you were at least safe" etc, etc) That sealed the deal and was proof that they were no longer virgins. However, we didnt get anything like this for Mortal, so how DO WE KNOW they did it? Just because of something you think is a cliche? Hoestly, I haven't seen your "cliche" used in anything. Now, if they wouldve shown them in a field holding hands while running through flowers, then one of them falls and brngs the other with them, and then we here moaning and it pans over to some birds chirping on a branch, than I could see it, but this whole 'open window with wind blowing' thing I don't think as a big cliche.

[Cinemastique]

Look, it WAS NOT the night after. That is, unless they came home and stayed up all night drywalling, painting, and furnishing the Kent's kitchen, living room, and hallway. The "morning after," all those things are completed. In the previous episode, half the action took place in a kitchen/living room that was not completed at all.

Unless the Kents have another super kid running around?

Oh yeah, and then there's the comment by Lana. Point is, this was several weeks later, if not longer.

;) swish.

[Loisclark]

It would be REALLY REALLY sad if that was the same night. Lana has been saving herself for clark and they made a whole big deal about their "first time", and then they just do it once???!!
And then that's IT, because Clarks immortal agin...

Let's all hope and if not pretend it was like a month later :-)

[All about Clark]

Well if Clark had more than 5 shirts it might have been easier to tell that it was weeks later. Hehe - I'm sure they had a fabulous month.