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supermanfreak
10-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Did anyone else notice that Lana's little speech to Clark was a kind of flashback of Fever with Chloe? Also, he flatlined right after Lana was talking to him!:lol: so it was like her fault that he "died"!:rotfl:
Happy Random
10-13-2005, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by supermanfreak
Did anyone else notice that Lana's little speech to Clark was a kind of flashback of Fever with Chloe? Also, he flatlined right after Lana was talking to him!:lol: so it was like her fault that he "died"!:rotfl:
But yeah, I noticed that too, and notice, Clark responded to Chloe. But that might just have been due to his condition.
Okay, my brother dared me to post this thing that we bothed noticed, so here goes!
Has anyone else noticed the thing we like to call "Lana-Lang-Syndrome"? Every time Lana gets a new boyfriend, he dies (or, in Adam's case, has already been dead). Let's take a look:
*Whitney: Killed in the Marines
*Adam: Well, he had already been dead for a while if I remember right
*Jason: Killed by a meteor
*Clark: Was shot and killed (at least he came back to life!)
Are we noticing a pattern here? I feel bad for Lana, but, worse for her boyfriends. :)
SmallvilleDieHard10
10-13-2005, 09:15 PM
I really really really liked this scene with Lana. It shows more than her one dimensional character that TPTB like to show. Lana is so much more and she definitely brought that out tonight. The tears and pain felt so real to me. I almost shed a tear when I saw it. SUCH A POWERFUL SCENE.
superman_115
10-13-2005, 09:22 PM
The scene was good, but Lana is a curse to men on that show, why don't she just date all the FOTW's, they always die when she dates someone. Then Smallville would be freak free.
Rafael122
10-13-2005, 09:31 PM
You know, I've got mixed emotions on this. I liked the scene a lot, but felt it was a bit rushed. We could have gotten more of Lana crying though to get over the fact that her "true love" has died.
It's probably the sicko in me, but I did laugh out loud when Clark opened up his eyes, looked at her, then he had this "oh, crap, it's you" look and then he flat lined.
Danelle
10-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Rafael122
It's probably the sicko in me, but I did laugh out loud when Clark opened up his eyes, looked at her, then he had this "oh, crap, it's you" look and then he flat lined.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I'm honestly laughing out loud, no joke. :lol:
lana&Clark4ever
10-13-2005, 09:44 PM
i thought it was a really sad scene...i almost cried!!
Shalamarke
10-13-2005, 09:45 PM
Me too LOL
(laughing out loud I mean)
TheRealClarkKent
10-13-2005, 09:45 PM
Yea...but as they were trying to save him with the music playiing that tragic theme...it was awesome guys. And that line about lana dreading this day and him always saving the world...i thought that was a good addition as well. My only rant is that i wish we could of seen more of the Kent's reaction.
i did get some tears, obviously Clark knew he was dying and wanted to open his eyes and see her for the last time.
Rafael122
10-13-2005, 09:49 PM
Yeah Martha just kinda yelped...I thought she was calling someone from a distant land or something. And Johnathan...I dunno, his eyes widen showing that he cared, but he didn't react much.
Like I said, it was done very well, but it felt a bit rushed IMO.
Danelle
10-13-2005, 10:01 PM
Yeah, though I'm not a big Clana fan, I think they're going about it well so far. They're relationship has been kind of cute from season 4's "Spirit" and forward. Yes, I never thought I'd admit it, but now that Clark and Lana are together, they're actually cute. But then again maybe a part of me is just happy it's finally going on, because then the sooner we can get it over with.
But anyway, yes, that scene was sad! My eyes watered a smidge. I also felt it was a bit rushed, and I would've liked to see Lex or Lois show up at the hospital....I'd like to see how either of them would react. (Especially Lex!)
SmallvilleDieHard10
10-13-2005, 10:03 PM
Yeah, I think they could have showed a little more emotion in the parents due to the fact that their son just died, lol. But you know the producers, lol.
Yeah, I think they could have showed a little more emotion in the parents due to the fact that their son just died, lol. But you know the producers, lol.
smallvillerocks45
10-13-2005, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Happy Random
But yeah, I noticed that too, and notice, Clark responded to Chloe. But that might just have been due to his condition.
Okay, my brother dared me to post this thing that we bothed noticed, so here goes!
Has anyone else noticed the thing we like to call "Lana-Lang-Syndrome"? Every time Lana gets a new boyfriend, he dies (or, in Adam's case, has already been dead). Let's take a look:
*Whitney: Killed in the Marines
*Adam: Well, he had already been dead for a while if I remember right
*Jason: Killed by a meteor
*Clark: Was shot and killed (at least he came back to life!)
Are we noticing a pattern here? I feel bad for Lana, but, worse for her boyfriends. :)
Oh yeah, and in the Superman movie (three, I think), Lana is a single mother....poor Lana, why is it so hard for her to find a steady man...LoL
[Actually, Clark would be great for her, if only he didn't feel so guilty about the meteor shower...that's just my opinion, I don't mind a little Clana every now and then :D LoL :rolleyes:]
Kal-El 2005
10-13-2005, 10:55 PM
I hated the scene! Why was Lana there.. they only let family members in at a time like this and somehow she got in the room before his parents! I just hated that she had to be in the room to see him die, Martha and Johnathon should have been there in the room at their son's side!
Mydhrin
10-13-2005, 11:07 PM
Nobody was allowed to be there, i believe that Lana just slipped through everyone (or for the shows purpose just let in :) )
I loved that scene, just shows how those 2 feelings are strong for one and the other
Originally posted by SmallvilleDieHard10
I really really really liked this scene with Lana. It shows more than her one dimensional character that TPTB like to show. Lana is so much more and she definitely brought that out tonight. The tears and pain felt so real to me. I almost shed a tear when I saw it. SUCH A POWERFUL SCENE.
I concur, as I loved it.
I even have the screenshot up in my review. ;) :p
svsabbiesv
10-14-2005, 12:30 AM
it was a sad scene. i just felt rushed too, like i didn't really have time to cry, cause it was a darn commerical. and then you show the ma and pa kent. you should breaked it right after there is something wrong with the kent boy. at least I could have cried a little bit longer lol..im terrible
djpnutz
10-14-2005, 12:35 AM
I was waiting for lana to drop to the floor when she went outside the hall... that woulda done it for me. I was almost there... but if she dropped I woulda had a few tears flowing. Man SUPERMAN FRIGGEN DIED!!!
Edit: Kristin's got sadness down pretty well... but when she was asked to leave she just left... what kinda pain is that? If she tugged on clark's arm or something it woulda struck a chord but obeying someone right after you lost someone you love... I didn't feel the pain...
Crispin Glover
10-14-2005, 12:40 AM
All I want to say is Kristin Kreuk playing Lana during the hospital scene was amazing. I really felt her pain, and when the parents found out and she was near the wall about to collapse I really thought that was a dead on reaction to what someone might feel in that situation.
Ultron
10-14-2005, 12:58 AM
I was blown away by her performance all night, actually. Regarding the hospital scene I think it's typical that Lana Lang would sneak past people in order to get to Clark. To me that was just cool.
Danelle
10-14-2005, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I was waiting for Lana to fall as well. I think it would've added to the scene if she would've collapsed, and if the Kents would have rushed over to her or something.
svsabbiesv, you met Michael Rosenbaum? How? *Is jealous*
sunshine1973
10-14-2005, 12:34 PM
Lana did well enough... but like someone previously said she could have tug an arm or shake him a bit or just plan sobbing hestrically and tugging at him not wanting to leave her lovers side......I would have felt that she cared more...
djpnutz
10-14-2005, 12:45 PM
I wonder where lex was during that time. His ex-best friend just died and he's not there?
Danelle
10-14-2005, 01:43 PM
Yeah, I was really hoping to see Lex show up, with genuine concern. I was disappointed when all we got from him was his conversation with Lana at the end of the show. He didn't seem too concerned...just with the fact that Clark rose from the dead.
margroks
10-14-2005, 02:26 PM
Yes, it was far from powerful. And it was total retcon BS. Lana was trying to justify her constant rejection of and harping at Clark over the years here; she was never ever shown to care for Clark until Whitney wasn't showing her the attention she deserved. Prior to that, she said she stayed with WHitney becasue he made her feel safe. THat was all utter crap from Lana that she "yadda, yadda, knew you could make me happy,the first time I saw you." She ignored CLark for most of her life. In Metamorphosis, Clark had to ask her, "Why are you here" because she hadn't even come over and they barely knew each other.
That was such a crock. AND yes, she had no busines being there instead of the parents. Lame. Totally lame.
Mydhrin
10-14-2005, 03:18 PM
I guess that 4 years of relationship building means nothing! Heck, i guess a whole summer together enjoying themselves means nothing! I guess her feelings for him means nothing!
Yah, your definitly right [/Sarcasm]
Danelle
10-14-2005, 03:32 PM
I think margroks is overexaggerating a bit, but I do agree with her about the "from the first time I saw you, I knew only you could make me happy" (or however it went) line. When I heard her say that I was surprised. When was the first time she saw Clark? When she was that fairy princess during the meteor shower? Did she see Clark then and think only he'd make her happy, though her parents were just kaboomed by meteors? Or does she count it as the first time she saw him when he "stumbled" into the doors of the high school as a freshman? Because that wasn't the vibe I was getting...when she was with Whitney, I didn't get those "Only you can make me happy, Clark" vibes until later in the season. Like when Whitney's dad dies and they're at the funeral and Lana's making puppy-dog eyes at Clark.
But anyway, yeah, I thought that line was BS. I do think they love each other, etc, but I don't know if I believe her little line.
LuckyKrypto
10-14-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Happy Random
But yeah, I noticed that too, and notice, Clark responded to Chloe. But that might just have been due to his condition.
Okay, my brother dared me to post this thing that we bothed noticed, so here goes!
Has anyone else noticed the thing we like to call "Lana-Lang-Syndrome"? Every time Lana gets a new boyfriend, he dies (or, in Adam's case, has already been dead). Let's take a look:
*Whitney: Killed in the Marines
*Adam: Well, he had already been dead for a while if I remember right
*Jason: Killed by a meteor
*Clark: Was shot and killed (at least he came back to life!)
Are we noticing a pattern here? I feel bad for Lana, but, worse for her boyfriends. :)
I think you may be on to something ;)
Lana Lang is the next 'Black Widow' :rotfl: :rotfl:
Do you think the writers have noticed this??? No wonder she is so insecure. Look at all the people that have died that have contact with her. There's the boyfriends mentioned, a couple of FOTW, Mom and Dad Lang.
I thought my luck was bad!
Poor Lana :(
commencement_rox
10-14-2005, 04:56 PM
well two of the men lana dated were only with her for something bigger and they both led to clark which is kinda weird but he is the main character and notice if u r not a clana fan that all of lana's bf have gone through the whole seasonand died near the end or at the end except clark in this season so they probably will not end for a while so dont get ur hopes up
rosewolfe87
10-14-2005, 05:00 PM
Lana did great with the reaction of Clark's death. Johnathon just got a shocked look and Martha sounded like a dying cat. The "who cried best when Clark died" award goes to..Lana. Although, bravo to Chloe, who did a great job acting like she was trying to go to her dying friend.
binkys711
10-14-2005, 05:04 PM
yes, I agree with the said above by rosewolf^^^^ great props for those 2!
and that clana hospital scene, I cried, it was a very powerful scene to me....poor Lana:(
rosewolfe87
10-14-2005, 05:05 PM
I did the same thing. I was like "NOOOOOOOO!!!!"
Happy Random
10-14-2005, 05:13 PM
I was glad that Lana came out and said what Clark has always wanted to hear; "I love you Clark". Of course, I don't know that he heard it, but, it would be good if he did. She's never really come out and said that before has she? Maybe once or twice but never like this ;)
My little 7 year old brother just about started crying (he and my other brother both have MAJOR crushes on Lana!). It was a good scene. :)
rosewolfe87
10-14-2005, 05:26 PM
"I don't think she said "I love you." She just told him that no one could make him happier. And she told Clark that she loved him in the Season 2 finale. It was the first time that either one of them had said it to each other.
Originally posted by rosewolfe87
"I don't think she said "I love you." She just told him that no one could make her happier. And she told Clark that she loved him in the Season 2 finale. It was the first time that either one of them had said it to each other.
Happy Random
10-14-2005, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by rosewolfe87
"I don't think she said "I love you." She just told him that no one could make him happier. And she told Clark that she loved him in the Season 2 finale. It was the first time that either one of them had said it to each other.
That's what it was. I knew it was something like that. :) Anyways, it was a good scene. But it was harder for me to fully appreciate it, because come on! He's Superman, they're not gonna kill him! So anyway, that's just what I think.
rosewolfe87
10-14-2005, 05:35 PM
I know, but it was supposed to be an emotional thing for Lana.
Happy Random
10-14-2005, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by rosewolfe87
I know, but it was supposed to be an emotional thing for Lana.
Which it was. I just had trouble feeling a lot of the emotions because I knew how it would work out. :\ But that's just me. :)
LuckyKrypto
10-14-2005, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Happy Random
I just had trouble feeling a lot of the emotions because I knew how it would work out.
Me too~
djpnutz
10-14-2005, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Happy Random
Which it was. I just had trouble feeling a lot of the emotions because I knew how it would work out. :\ But that's just me. :)
I watched it without the spoilers and trailers... Isn't that what television is supposed to be like? No hints or speculations on what's gonna happen next? Otherwise you woulda just wondered WHEN not WHY or HOW he died... Grr Kryptonsite for the big DEAD CLARK pic on the front heheh
I love spontaneity... It's unblemished.. Nothing to be ruined. Nothing expected. Try it sometimes... just watch a movie you've heard nothing about, you'll appreciate it more. =) or hate it to death... but HEY that's spontaneity. lol
Zoghade
10-14-2005, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Happy Random
Has anyone else noticed the thing we like to call "Lana-Lang-Syndrome"? Every time Lana gets a new boyfriend, he dies (or, in Adam's case, has already been dead). Let's take a look:
*Whitney: Killed in the Marines
*Adam: Well, he had already been dead for a while if I remember right
*Jason: Killed by a meteor
*Clark: Was shot and killed (at least he came back to life!)
Are we noticing a pattern here? I feel bad for Lana, but, worse for her boyfriends. :)
More support for my "Lana is a meteor freak, she attracts tragedy and death" theory.
Brainiac_13
10-14-2005, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Happy Random
*Jason: Killed by a meteor
Prove it.
djpnutz
10-14-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Brainiac_13
Prove it.
He's alive... He survived... the meteor hit him all the way into another dimension where he's an investigator of paranormal activity.
Brainiac_13
10-14-2005, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by djpnutz
He's alive... He survived... the meteor hit him all the way into another dimension where he's an investigator of paranormal activity.
Actor =/= Character.
Zoghade
10-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Brainiac_13
Actor =/= Character.
...I guarantee he was joking.
Lobby4Chloe
10-15-2005, 01:54 AM
Lana is a femme fatale...fatal to the poor guys she picks.
<Adam Knight>
10-15-2005, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by supermanfreak
Did anyone else notice that Lana's little speech to Clark was a kind of flashback of Fever with Chloe? Also, he flatlined right after Lana was talking to him!:lol: so it was like her fault that he "died"!:rotfl:
lol it is her fault he died:rotfl:
me and my friends were gaped(great new voacb word i just learn lol:lol:) when he died...and especially when lana made him die lol
LuckyKrypto
10-15-2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Brainiac_13
Prove it.
Isn't it kind of implied that he is killed by the newspaper Lana is reading at the end of Arrival?? :confused:
Maybe not, but I thought he'd been killed by a meteor. :(
I can't think of anywhere in the show that I could actually *prove* that that is what happened to him. I am just going on what they have shown us on the show. (Granted I am probably assuming too much but I don't remember anything else to explain what happened to Jason ;) )
Zoghade
10-15-2005, 02:30 PM
An interview with one of the creators that was put up on this very site stating in very clear terms that Jason Teague is dead. I'm too lazy to go look for it, though.
Danelle
10-15-2005, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by djpnutz
He's alive... He survived... the meteor hit him all the way into another dimension where he's an investigator of paranormal activity.
Touche! :lol:
allison89
10-15-2005, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by djpnutz
He's alive... He survived... the meteor hit him all the way into another dimension where he's an investigator of paranormal activity.
Thats exactly what happened! Not only is he in this new dimension but he has amnesia and thinks he someone else! ;)
CK&CK
10-15-2005, 06:27 PM
Uggggg! Lana's little speeh before Clark Flat Lines! Where's my remote God Damn It!......must fast foward!......must fast forwar.....Noooooooo!........got to....cover.......my........ears!
God, her speech was so cheesy.....it's no wonder Clark Flat lined. At least the look he gave before he flatlined was good.
But man, what a crock of fairytale bull$&it writting that was! Clark flat linning.....didn't know whether to feel happy or sad for him.....come to think of it....I think I started laughing a little myself.
SmallvilleMan
10-15-2005, 07:05 PM
How was that cheesy? Cheesy would be her repeating over and over again how much she loved him. They did that well, i thought and looked nothing like Chloe's speech.
Kal'sGirl
10-15-2005, 07:14 PM
it was cheesy- she said she pushed him away when he was the one who pulled away from her. It reverses all logic and is kinda sad for her-- she ends up with pete. he ends up with Lois. For her to say "you're the -only- one who could make me happy" means she's in for LOTS of unhappy days.
SmallvilleMan
10-15-2005, 07:19 PM
it was cheesy- she said she pushed him away when he was the one who pulled away from her. It reverses all logic and is kinda sad for her-- she ends up with pete. he ends up with Lois. For her to say "you're the -only- one who could make me happy" means she's in for LOTS of unhappy days.
She didn't push him away? So i guess you missed Whisper and Legacy? Must of, or maybe when she left for Paris. So, she ends up with Pete. Is she suppose to know the future? Like I said, Clark is the one she most loves and cares about in the world, so that to me doesn't make that statement wrong at all.
Kal'sGirl
10-15-2005, 07:24 PM
she pushed him away in "Whisper" because of the secrets not because she was fearful of his safety. And really, that's a pretty selfish reason (if that is her CORE reason for pushing Clark away) is because she didn't him in her heart to lose him. He almost died in 'Fever' and she didn't even go visit him. That wasn't even because of heroics. Does she want someone who will -never- die or get hurt??
SmallvilleMan
10-15-2005, 07:36 PM
she pushed him away in "Whisper" because of the secrets not because she was fearful of his safety. And really, that's a pretty selfish reason (if that is her CORE reason for pushing Clark away) is because she didn't him in her heart to lose him. He almost died in 'Fever' and she didn't even go visit him. That wasn't even because of heroics. Does she want someone who will -never- die or get hurt??
I don't recall Lex going to see Clark either, or Pete. The only person who saw Clark was Chloe. I recall other times that Lana visited the Kents when they were sick and Chloe didn't. So, please enough with the whole Lana didn't go see Clark in Fever so that makes her a bad person? Lana just didn't want to see Clark like that and never does. It's common with people, they don't want to see the people they love get hurt. That doesn't make her selfish.
CK&CK
10-15-2005, 07:52 PM
"From the first moment that I saw you I knew that no one could make me happier than you"
The line was stupid because she did not know from the first moment she saw him......If she had just said that she knew he was special or something.....that would have worked, but not the happiness fairytale crap. It just doesn't work with the way things were laid out in Season 1. A connection between the two of them....I could buy that (I remember Clark saying thanks for the Dance....then Lana turns around while stepping up her porch....almost as if she could her him)....but not the "I knew from the very first moment I saw you".....what a CROCK! But in esscence, this is why I hate the Clark/Lana ship........yes....this is the reason.....and in it's purest form. The writters just plain suck most of the time when it comes to the love between those two. Where's the Barf bag? Oh....and she always knew he'd be running around saving the day?.......she didn't know JACK about that part of his life! Now, I hated the thought of them doing it, but even that was at least handled funny and cute in this episode.....I was very much surprised.....but the Death Bed Love Speech......well....that was supremely pathetic.
SmallvilleMan
10-15-2005, 08:12 PM
The line was stupid because she did not know from the first moment she saw him......If she had just said that she knew he was special or something.....that would have worked, but not the happiness fairytale crap. It just doesn't work with the way things were laid out in Season 1. A connection between the two of them....I could buy that (I remember Clark saying thanks for the Dance....then Lana turns around while stepping up her porch....almost as if she could her him)....but not the "I knew from the very first moment I saw you".....what a CROCK! But in esscence, this is why I hate the Clark/Lana ship........yes....this is the reason.....and in it's purest form. The writters just plain suck most of the time when it comes to the love between those two. Where's the Barf bag? Oh....and she always knew he'd be running around saving the day?.......she didn't know JACK about that part of his life! Now, I hated the thought of them doing it, but even that was at least handled funny and cute in this episode.....I was very much surprised.....but the Death Bed Love Speech......well....that was supremely pathetic.
Clark is always running around saving the day. How could she not know that? He's saved her numerous times and she said that in the context of way she pulled away. Like she pulled away because he would always be saving the day and he'd get hurt. The knowing someone could make you the happiest from the first moment is kind of a bad line from the writers. They should have done feel like you would make me happy or something involving feeling.
sleepykao3
10-15-2005, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by CK&CK
"From the first moment that I saw you I knew that no one could make me happier than you"
The line was stupid because she did not know from the first moment she saw him......If she had just said that she knew he was special or something.....that would have worked, but not the happiness fairytale crap. It just doesn't work with the way things were laid out in Season 1. A connection between the two of them....I could buy that (I remember Clark saying thanks for the Dance....then Lana turns around while stepping up her porch....almost as if she could her him)....but not the "I knew from the very first moment I saw you".....what a CROCK! But in esscence, this is why I hate the Clark/Lana ship........yes....this is the reason.....and in it's purest form. The writters just plain suck most of the time when it comes to the love between those two. Where's the Barf bag? Oh....and she always knew he'd be running around saving the day?.......she didn't know JACK about that part of his life! Now, I hated the thought of them doing it, but even that was at least handled funny and cute in this episode.....I was very much surprised.....but the Death Bed Love Speech......well....that was supremely pathetic.
Ah, well, everyone knows TPTB completely butchered the Clark/Lana romance.
DARKRAGE
10-15-2005, 08:21 PM
it was corny but it served its purpose
You're right. It's time for Clois and while TPTB are at I hope they make Lois act like the Lois in the comics and the other TV shows. Please, please, please, please, please, what's going on their?
CK&CK
10-15-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Clark is always running around saving the day. How could she not know that? He's saved her numerous times and she said that in the context of way she pulled away. Like she pulled away because he would always be saving the day and he'd get hurt. The knowing someone could make you the happiest from the first moment is kind of a bad line from the writers. They should have done feel like you would make me happy or something involving feeling.
Even the pulling away line seemed strange. But at least it's more plausible than the "first moment" line. And she has pulled away from him, but for some reason.... that line still didn't work for me.....maybe it's because it followed right on the heels of some of the dumbest words ever uttered on a Smallville soap opera like moment. I'm not a big KK fan, but I really felt bad for her at that moment.......the writters really are EVIL....or at least they can be.
*oh, but to be frank, she didn't know about his running around, saving the day.......not from day one that is.
SmallvilleMan
10-15-2005, 08:53 PM
It's not time for Lois.
the writters really are EVIL....
YES!!!!! They are the worst. I came understand what Lana was saying, but the happier part was kind of weird. They should have just stuck with the "i love you" thing from the first time etc.....
supermanfreak
10-15-2005, 09:39 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
[B]Clark is always running around saving the day. How could she not know that? He's saved her numerous times and she said that in the context of way she pulled away. Like she pulled away because he would always be saving the day and he'd get hurt.
She didn't know he would always be running around trying to save the day because he never really started to save the day until the first episode. And if the past episodes are correct, they knew about each other for a long time before they were in high schoo. They never really talked, but they knew each other.
Danelle
10-16-2005, 10:07 PM
Right, that's what I don't get. If they knew each other for longer than their first day of high school (they had to have, it's SMALLville), then there's no WAY she was serious about the "from the first time I saw you..." line. As far as I know, Lana basically IGNORED him until their freshman year in high school. And during the early episodes of the first season, he seemed so surprised that she'd come and talk to him, or come to his house, etc.. If, from the first time she saw him she knew only he could make her happy, why did she go out with Whitney freshman year? Would it really have been so hard to try for Clark? We all know he would've been more than willing! Lol, if I was Kristin Kreuk, I would've been like "No...I don't think we should use that line..."
But anyway! Lana and Clark can say they're meant for each other all they want now, but we know better. It really doesn't matter what they say, because in a few years she'll be irrelevant. Echoes of "Lana who?" will ring through the world of the everlasting Superman mythos...with Clark and Lois reigning as the true unbreakable couple.
Ok, I take back that "Lana who?" thing. Lana-Who marries Pete. And sneaks ladies' underwear into Clark's bed to try and break up his and Lois's marriage. Ha! :rotfl: You can't defeat the Unsinkable Ship! ;)
baskcm
11-01-2005, 05:41 AM
i liked the scene showed emotion i also liked the music as well as linoel awakining in the hospital when he senses clark dying good scene in all
margroks
11-01-2005, 11:14 AM
Yes; it showed us a Lana who claimed to feel and think things we know aren't true. ALthough, from a few lines like in Perry, for instance, when Perry mentioned Clark being, "Johny on the spot" and way back when the crokked cop threatened Jonathan with turning Clark in because he was at the scene of a lot of emergencies, I get the general impression Clark may have been helping people long before the pilot ep when we first saw him. AFter all, he didn't hesitate to help Lex, a total stranger, as far as he knew, and that usually doesn't happen sudden;y one day. He was raised in a family and rural culture that values helping your neighbor in times of trouble after all.
But that doesn't change the fact that Lana didn't ever show any indication of always liking Clark and she certainly treated him badly time and again. No, the only part of that speech that was true was the, "I knew this day would come," and it wasn't even really about CLark being hurt or killed because he helped others . It was about Clark being another person who abandoned her. That was Lana's great fear, after all, and she is nothing if not self centered. I'm not saying she had no feeling for Clark'k being injured but her real upset came because he would abandon her. It's was strictly a me, me, me, you're leaving me POV. All those people on the morgue slabs in Scared and it wasn't they died and I'm sad, it was that they left her. Lana has to be propped up by those around her and, contrary to her claims of wanting to leave and be independant, she has to have a guy around to cater to her and assuage that fear. And that's a pitiful excuse for a love interest if I ever saw one.
supermanfreak
11-01-2005, 02:07 PM
Well said. Bravo.
blastcaps
11-01-2005, 02:18 PM
In the beggining of Hidden Clark says he has been in love with Lana since he was like 7. So he loved her before high school.
margroks
11-01-2005, 02:24 PM
You can't really love someone you don't know and have barely spken with. Not possible. Real love involves knowing someone not worshipping some fantasy girl from afar. It's quite ludicrous. Clark, who also professed feelings for other girls but specifically said he loved ALicia, who tried to kill him let's remember, clearly has no clue what real love actually is.
maybe lana saw clark put that bully thru the door that was threatening pete in 3rd grade.
rosewolfe87
11-01-2005, 02:42 PM
You can't blame Lana for having abandonment issues. Everyone that she has ever cared about has left her. And she might not have been actually SEEING him, she might have meant figuratively when she said "Since the first moment that I saw you." She didn't really SEE him for what he was until the 1st season. We don't know what goes on in their heads because all we get to see is their actions. And if I was Lana I would be in the same position, afraid all the time that the man that she has come to love will leave her. It's not that it's all about her, she just doesn't want to lose the people that she cares about.
xrayvision
11-02-2005, 01:32 AM
Lana definitely has shown a self-centered side when people leave her, but in the hospital scene, I thought in a way she was being genuine. Though she has never really consistently been shown to be concerned about Clark's well-being after all the times he put himself in danger (except at the end of Perry). Maybe she did know he had some sort of powers and that's why she was concerned often. The part about pulling away wasn't believable. She pulled away because he wasn't telling her his secret not because she knew that one day he would be seriously wounded.
She has to stop being so dependent. Her need to always be with someone has been shown many times, especially at the end of Visage.
margroks
11-02-2005, 08:27 AM
But her speech said, form the first moment I saw you (which was early on in Kindergarten or even before possibly and we know she never had anything much to do with him at all until freshman year in high school so her speech wasn't true by a long shot.) I knew you could make me happy. While there are varying levels of self absorption, Lana has always been shown to be at pretty much maximum levels. Her admission to Clark about why she stayed with Whitney (because he makes me feel safe) even after she knew what he'd done to Clark said it all right from the start. Lana comes first and her concern for abandonement is overpowering. When people die, it's first and foremost about them leaving her even if they couldn't help it. It's all about her happiness and her abandonment. Other people always come second.
It's Lana's crippling characteristic and the root of her selfishness. Well that and the deference the entire town has always shown her and which she now thinks is hers by right. Cross Lana Lang and you'll see how sweet she is. Clark has experienced her wrath so he really ought to know how she can be but he's blinded, too, just as the entire town is, for some reason. No, I'm afraid her little speech held no truth save for self pity.
Watching Smallville
11-02-2005, 03:26 PM
I agree. The "From the first moment I saw you" line is a problem. Either the writers are assuming we haven't been watching the show from the very beginning, or they're showing Lana as, well... :\ I don't want to say dishonest. I think she got carried away with the moment and the emotion. Maybe she really believed it herself.
supermanfreak
11-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Very well said. I second that.
Smallville619
11-03-2005, 04:36 PM
i liked the scene where clark dies with Jor-El-Loinel waking himself up and the music made it seem like the Death was final.
Originally posted by margroks
But her speech said, form the first moment I saw you (which was early on in Kindergarten or even before possibly and we know she never had anything much to do with him at all until freshman year in high school so her speech wasn't true by a long shot.) I knew you could make me happy. While there are varying levels of self absorption, Lana has always been shown to be at pretty much maximum levels. Her admission to Clark about why she stayed with Whitney (because he makes me feel safe) even after she knew what he'd done to Clark said it all right from the start. Lana comes first and her concern for abandonement is overpowering. When people die, it's first and foremost about them leaving her even if they couldn't help it. It's all about her happiness and her abandonment. Other people always come second.
in "crisis", lana went with adam in order to save chloe and mr. kent knowing that in all likelihood she would die because of that choice. in "ageless", she offers up her bone marrow without a moments hesitation. in "accelerate", lana lamented her failure to save her friend and said she would trade her own life if it would have brought her friend back. lana stayed with whitney because he needed her when his dad was sick and after he died. just because someone uses the word "me" doesn't automatically make the self-absorbed.
also, we never saw the moment when lana and clark met, so no one can say for sure whether what lana says is true or not. but we do know that they have known each other, though not closely, for many years and that clark has been performing heroics since he was at least in third grade. i can imagine many ways in which lana's statements are completely true, so even though their are blanks in the story simply because the writers cannot show us everything doesn't make lana into a liar.
Simba_Muffy
01-29-2012, 03:31 AM
I still laugh at that stupid retcon. In the "Pilot" Clark and Lana know of each other, they didn't know each other. His best friends were Pete & Chloe and they also didn't know Lana. His parents didn't know Lana. They were strangers. Lana didn't think about him or had feelings for him, because she didn't know him at all. She knew his name and knew the Kent's were his parents, but that's it. Clark calming to have loved her since age five is also crap. When the two of them are making out and talking in the Loft is also crap. But "crap" went with Clana like ice cream and cake.
Supsfan
01-29-2012, 11:09 AM
I still laugh at that stupid retcon. In the "Pilot" Clark and Lana know of each other, they didn't know each other. His best friends were Pete & Chloe and they also didn't know Lana. His parents didn't know Lana. They were strangers. Lana didn't think about him or had feelings for him, because she didn't know him at all. She knew his name and knew the Kent's were his parents, but that's it. Clark calming to have loved her since age five is also crap. When the two of them are making out and talking in the Loft is also crap. But "crap" went with Clana like ice cream and cake.
I have to agree Hidden had some of the most "what the hell" lines
When Clark first said that he loved Lana since he was 7(although per show canon they never really talked till he was 14) I couldn't help but laugh since that means for 7 years of Clark's life he "loved" somebody he really hasn't talked to and only admired from a far. Lana's I always knew you would make me happy when I first saw you also was so cringe worthy in the sense given the show's history Lana must have saw him before they actually formed a verbal relationship where they talk with eachother, which begs the question why would she not set out to make a relationship with Clark if she knew he would make her happy as early as Kindergarten.
To this day I wonder if the writers were that clueless to how incredibly superficial both lines sounded. Did they basically do it on purpose because they easily could have choose different words to convey the same points in both cases that would make more sense? I honestly believe given the show's history that the writers many times such as this do go out of there way to choose their words carefully for the characters to say in order to try create a discussion amongst the fanbase where they can fanwank it however they want.
Simba_Muffy
01-29-2012, 08:12 PM
I have to agree Hidden had some of the most "what the hell" lines
When Clark first said that he loved Lana since he was 7(although per show canon they never really talked till he was 14) I couldn't help but laugh since that means for 7 years of Clark's life he "loved" somebody he really hasn't talked to and only admired from a far. Lana's I always knew you would make me happy when I first saw you also was so cringe worthy in the sense given the show's history Lana must have saw him before they actually formed a verbal relationship where they talk with eachother, which begs the question why would she not set out to make a relationship with Clark if she knew he would make her happy as early as Kindergarten.
To this day I wonder if the writers were that clueless to how incredibly superficial both lines sounded. Did they basically do it on purpose because they easily could have choose different words to convey the same points in both cases that would make more sense? I honestly believe given the show's history that the writers many times such as this do go out of there way to choose their words carefully for the characters to say in order to try create a discussion amongst the fanbase where they can fanwank it however they want.
SV writers didn't even care about continuity or logic.
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