Kryptonite allergy???

[gtjsasso-el]

I know that ole clark's been drained of his powers, but he is still kryptonian. He should still be allergic to kryptonite. Yet, that big chunk of it he picked up when walking with Lana did nary any damage. I am sure it was symbolic on the parts of the writers to show him as a mere "Mortal", but come on!! mortal or no, he still isn"t human!!

[prometheus04]

It's not an allergy, it radioactive. like if a human got exposed to plotoium.

[gtjsasso-el]

well whatever it is, shouldn't the kryptonite have affected him, with or without powers? Kryptonite can kill him... and if you say that it kills him by draining is powers, and now that he doesn't have powers he is okay to be around it, than that would imply that Clark dies if you drain his powers. If that is the case, than he should have died when Jor-El took his powers.

[prometheus04]

Clark is a Solar Battery all the yellow sun does is just give him his powers. Like all batteries it/he can be drained. Kryptonite again is radioactive to all Kryptonians.

[Hydra]

Technically due to the fact that his powers are the result of kryptonian DNA and solar energy soak up, even if his powers are drained he should eventually get them back, which would mean that yes assuming his biology remains the same (which it should) then he should still be suceptible to Kryptonite. However TPTB seem to like the concept of no powers = no weakness to kryptonite. Hence things are the way they are.

[gtjsasso-el]

Well thats just plain dumb. It would have been funny to see him pick up the kryptonite , thinking that it no longer affected him, and had him collapse to the ground in front of Lana.

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Unless Jor-El altered his DNA.

-cs™

[smallvillerox05]

I still insist on Clark's DNA being mutated. If you believe the X-Men and mutants is not too far fetched, why not instant mutation? If it was anything else but DNA mutation, then Eric Summers shouldn't have been vulnerable to Kryptonite either. But his DNA was mutated as well, making him vulnerable and Clark invulnerable to Kryptonite.

Also, Jor-El could have easily implanted some kind of control into Clark's body when Clark learned the language in Rosetta, when Clark got the journal in Relic, or any of the times they were talking. He could have done it in Arrival when Clark was at the FoS. And with that control (maybe something compared to a virus, but he controls when it infects) he can alter Clark's DNA. So that's not far fetched to me. Besides, he put that scar on Clark's chest in Exodus.

And magic can obviously mutate DNA.

So that's my belief system. I'm probably wrong, but oh well. :lol:

In other words, I agree with CLS.

[Dimensio]

We've already seen situations where Clark lost his powers and became effectively "human", twice now in fact (both with the same meteor freak/electricity cause). Both times, Clark became immune to the harmful effects of Kryptonite for the duration of his depowering. It may not make sense, but it's still internally consistent.

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by prometheus04
It's not an allergy, it radioactive. like if a human got exposed to plotoium.

What would happen if a human got exposed to plotoium?

[Sydafex7]

People need to stop comparing things in Smallville to the Superman story. Smallville is different, this is SOO obvious now in the 5th season.

Smallville is a reinvention of the Superman Legend. Things are different. Like someone said, they have been consistent with his power loss. In Leach and in Asylum, he lost his powers AND was immune to Kryptonite. So, in other words, in the Smallville universe (different from the others) When CLark loses his powers, he also loses his allergy. who knows why, but it doesnt matter, IT HAPPENS. and it HAS been consistent.

[Nerial]

I don't know what the big deal is. To be honest, I've always assumed that the same biology that causes Clark to absorb so much solar energy, is probably the same biology that causes him to absorb so much kryptonite radiation.

Think about this:

The reason Clark has his powers is because his body is absorbing a thousand times (random guess on how much) more solar energy than a normal human.

Perhaps the reason he's allergic to kryptonite isn't because of the radioactivity, but rather HOW MUCH of it he absorbs.

It's been shown in the comics that humans can develop terminal illnesses from long-term kryptonite exposure. So, obviously they are affected by it, but not nearly at the same rate as a Kryptonian.

So, wouldn't it be correct to assume that if Clark's powers are gone it's because his body (for whatever reason) isn't absorbing any more solar energy than a human...therefore, his body is also not absorbing the same amount of radiation from the kryptonite?

Okay, I'm done. :)

[Enialedam]

Originally posted by Nerial

So, wouldn't it be correct to assume that if Clark's powers are gone it's because his body (for whatever reason) isn't absorbing any more solar energy than a human...therefore, his body is also not absorbing the same amount of radiation from the kryptonite?


Yah, that could make sense ...



Personally, I don't agree with the whole losing-power thing. It would make sense if Jor-El took away the engergy that Clark's stored, but I don't think that he (Jor-El) would go as far as actually chaning Clark's DNA sequence! (He's the last son of krypton, for Pete's sake! I don't think Jor-El would be stupid enough to wipe out his own race/blood!).

There's a few clues dropped throughout the show that prove that Clark didn't arrive on earth and get powers immediatley ... He was six when his speed came, and five (???) when he got his strength. Also, when he was younger, kryptonite had a much smaller effect on him. Just a sick-to-the-stomach type of feel. (Check out Metamorphasis)

... So, it took about 2-3 years worth of sunlight for the 'basics' to develop. So, saying that, it would just be a matter of time before Clark began to realize that he really isn't as normal as earlier presumed.

..... Soooo, if that therorie's correct, yes, Clark should be affected by Kryptonite.

Ta da! My rant's over!

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Enialedam
Yah, that could make sense ...



Personally, I don't agree with the whole losing-power thing. It would make sense if Jor-El took away the engergy that Clark's stored, but I don't think that he (Jor-El) would go as far as actually chaning Clark's DNA sequence! (He's the last son of krypton, for Pete's sake! I don't think Jor-El would be stupid enough to wipe out his own race/blood!).

There's a few clues dropped throughout the show that prove that Clark didn't arrive on earth and get powers immediatley ... He was six when his speed came, and five (???) when he got his strength. Also, when he was younger, kryptonite had a much smaller effect on him. Just a sick-to-the-stomach type of feel. (Check out Metamorphasis)

... So, it took about 2-3 years worth of sunlight for the 'basics' to develop. So, saying that, it would just be a matter of time before Clark began to realize that he really isn't as normal as earlier presumed.

..... Soooo, if that therorie's correct, yes, Clark should be affected by Kryptonite.

Ta da! My rant's over!

well, the theory is obviously wrong then because he isnt effected by kryptonite.

My theory still stands. This is Smallville, and in Smallville, when Clark loses his powers he also loses his allergy to kryponite. That's that!

[mvblacnyte]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
well, the theory is obviously wrong then because he isnt effected by kryptonite.

My theory still stands. This is Smallville, and in Smallville, when Clark loses his powers he also loses his allergy to kryponite. That's that!

Yes, that's that, and it's obviously how TPTB want things to be.

Oddly enough, it's also the way things are in the current JLU cartoon continuity. (For a recent reference, see JLU season 5, episode 2 or 3 I think, where Supergirl's powers are seriously weakened, and she states that this is the reason the huge chunk of Kryptonite doesn't kill her instantly.)

Hmm. It's also how things were in the '90's comics, when Clarkie boy lost his Kryptonian powers and became a human with electric powers.

And then, also, after Final Night, when all his powers had been drained and didn't seem to want to come back... no Kryptonite vulnerability.

So, really... it seems to me as if AlMiles are just taking what the current comics/cartoons say in regards to this issue. In fact, as far as the comics, only in the pre-Crisis universe (in which gold Kryptonite could take a Kryptonian's powers away permanently) and in the Pocket Universe (where General Zod and crew existed post-Crisis) has it been stated that depowered Kryptonians are still vulnerable to near-instantaneous death form overexposure to Kryptonite.

As far as an explanation why, I like the one stated above. Clark's powers are due to the fact that he can absorb vastly more solar/radioactive energy than a normal person. Perhaps his vulnerability to Kryptonite is the same effect, since it does also affect humans eventually. Clark just absorbs the radiation much, much faster. Which means his power isn't heat vision, or super strength, or invulnerability... it's just the ability to absorb certain types of radiation and utilize them to increase his strength, toughness, vision, etc. And THAT is the power that Jor-El took away.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by mvblacnyte
Yes, that's that, and it's obviously how TPTB want things to be.

Oddly enough, it's also the way things are in the current JLU cartoon continuity. (For a recent reference, see JLU season 5, episode 2 or 3 I think, where Supergirl's powers are seriously weakened, and she states that this is the reason the huge chunk of Kryptonite doesn't kill her instantly.)

Hmm. It's also how things were in the '90's comics, when Clarkie boy lost his Kryptonian powers and became a human with electric powers.

And then, also, after Final Night, when all his powers had been drained and didn't seem to want to come back... no Kryptonite vulnerability.

So, really... it seems to me as if AlMiles are just taking what the current comics/cartoons say in regards to this issue. In fact, as far as the comics, only in the pre-Crisis universe (in which gold Kryptonite could take a Kryptonian's powers away permanently) and in the Pocket Universe (where General Zod and crew existed post-Crisis) has it been stated that depowered Kryptonians are still vulnerable to near-instantaneous death form overexposure to Kryptonite.

As far as an explanation why, I like the one stated above. Clark's powers are due to the fact that he can absorb vastly more solar/radioactive energy than a normal person. Perhaps his vulnerability to Kryptonite is the same effect, since it does also affect humans eventually. Clark just absorbs the radiation much, much faster. Which means his power isn't heat vision, or super strength, or invulnerability... it's just the ability to absorb certain types of radiation and utilize them to increase his strength, toughness, vision, etc. And THAT is the power that Jor-El took away.

Makes sense to me. I didnt realize the way they do it in smallville is also the way theyve done it for years in the comics, like you say, now I definitely dint think K should effect him he has no powers.

So, people are saying K effects humans, just at a slower rate, well I dont get this. Sure, we have seen it effect humans before, I mean look at all the FOTW's, but, it hasnt just straight effected them by its self, its always effect humans by being mixed with some other type of variable (electricity, turing them into electric boy, during birthm causing rapid growth, etc etc) Ive never seen Kryptonite effect human with no help. I mean The kents have picked up meteors on numerous occasions and have never even hinted at having any long term damage, its only when the Kryponite is mixed with something else.

If K did effect humans at a slow rate, I think the population would almost be gone because itsbeen 17 years since the original showe that brought it, thats 17 years of radiation and look at the kents, they are fine, so is Lana.

[mvblacnyte]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
Makes sense to me. I didnt realize the way they do it in smallville is also the way theyve done it for years in the comics, like you say, now I definitely dint think K should effect him he has no powers.

So, people are saying K effects humans, just at a slower rate, well I dont get this. Sure, we have seen it effect humans before, I mean look at all the FOTW's, but, it hasnt just straight effected them by its self, its always effect humans by being mixed with some other type of variable (electricity, turing them into electric boy, during birthm causing rapid growth, etc etc) Ive never seen Kryptonite effect human with no help. I mean The kents have picked up meteors on numerous occasions and have never even hinted at having any long term damage, its only when the Kryponite is mixed with something else.

If K did effect humans at a slow rate, I think the population would almost be gone because itsbeen 17 years since the original showe that brought it, thats 17 years of radiation and look at the kents, they are fine, so is Lana.

In the comic books, Lex Luthor lost his hand, and eventually his life, due to constant exposure to Kryptonite radiation from a Kryptonite ring he wore. His brain was implanted into a clone body, of course, in which he impersonated Lex Luthor II, his nonexistent son and heir. But yeah, in the comics, Kryptonite is also poisonous to humans, over long-term constant exposure.

Oh, and in the comics at least, only a very small amount of Kryptonite landed on Earth at the same time Clark did. The rest came later, as the debris from Krypton's explosion finally reached Earth. And that's not exactly the way they did it on Smallville... although, now that I think about it, they did say this second meteor shower landed much, much more meteor rock than the first did.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by mvblacnyte
In the comic books, Lex Luthor lost his hand, and eventually his life, due to constant exposure to Kryptonite radiation from a Kryptonite ring he wore. His brain was implanted into a clone body, of course, in which he impersonated Lex Luthor II, his nonexistent son and heir. But yeah, in the comics, Kryptonite is also poisonous to humans, over long-term constant exposure.


So I guess then it just takes a lot longer than 17 years. Okay I can live with that. I didnt know that about Lex. Gosh Ive missed a lot in the comics...

[Relic]

Let Clark play with K.

To mortals it is still deadly, it just takes a loooong time

Prolonged exposure causes Cancer in humans.

[Ultron]

Originally posted by Nerial
I don't know what the big deal is. To be honest, I've always assumed that the same biology that causes Clark to absorb so much solar energy, is probably the same biology that causes him to absorb so much kryptonite radiation.

Well I think it's not so much his absorbing the Kryptonite when charged by the sun, as just reacting badly to it. I don't believe the Kryptonian landscape was harmful to Kryptonians under the influence of the red sun, from what I recall when I collected DC comics pre-Crisis. :)