Somebody slap me, we've got continuity

[sstray72]

Alicia and Jason mentions! Clark never REALLY loved Alicia, even though he said he did though... :\

[lookingformylois]

he was hoping for her to give him love

[RedPhoenix23]

Continuity?! No way!! I don't believe it!

Steven DeKnight must be trying to make up for Ageless.

[jimmyolsenblues]

The ability to have a continous plot is fantastic. Thank you to the powers that be. Thanks big time.

[Rafael122]

Alicia! Baby we miss you! *looks at the wall*

Sorry, yes having some continuity in the plot makes all of these episodes make sense. We still haven't seen Shelby though, he must be helping out.

[DarkClone]

they've had lots of continuity here . . . those two mentions, the lex/lionel scene . . . it's all crazy . . .

it's like i don't know who i am anymore

[mansuper]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Alicia! Baby we miss you! *looks at the wall*

Sorry, yes having some continuity in the plot makes all of these episodes make sense. We still haven't seen Shelby though, he must be helping out.

Shelby was killed in the meteor shower!

[Rafael122]

Shelby was on the Season Premiere!

And it's the Sheriff!

[mansuper]

Shelby is the Kent's do from the episode "Krypto'" and I was joking!

They mentioned Pete! Even more continuity!

[sstray72]

Alicia
Pete
Chlex continuation from the previous episode
mentions of aliens from previous episode
Clark throwing a rock like a football.

:eek:

I feel like I'm about to tear up. All of this continuity.... Maybe the producers really do read the boards and see what we REALLY want.

:wipes tear from his eye:

[MBCorp]

I also noticed this and it really surprised me! I was like, I am watching the right show, aren't I? They're actually mentioning stuff that happened in previous episodes! And Pete and Alicia are mentioned! Jason is mentioned! And Shattered is referenced! And those 2 aliens were mentioned! There was more continuity in this one episode than there was for the entire length of season 4!

[Beans]

I know! I loved it! And did anyone else see that Donnie Darko reference?
Continuity and Allusions!! Clana and a bit of Chlark!
Definitely the best episode in at least a season, keeps my hopes up for the rest!

[BlueNRed2]

I can see the writers chalkboard during the break...

Top Problems with Season 4:
Continuity
Continuity
Continuity ....
...
..

Good to see them make the needed adjustments!

[binkys711]

Originally posted by sstray72
Alicia
Pete
Chlex continuation from the previous episode
mentions of aliens from previous episode
Clark throwing a rock like a football.

:eek:

I feel like I'm about to tear up. All of this continuity.... Maybe the producers really do read the boards and see what we REALLY want.

:wipes tear from his eye:

lol stray, I was like WOAH! did I hear correctly...NO WAY!:eek: and then they actually mentioned the spaceship that Pete saw also! so cool! so much continuity! finally!...."The Forgotten" have been "remembered" :p

[WillTheBrave]

all i have to say is woot for continuity.

oh and what was the donnie darko reference, which btw was a great movie

[Best Episode - 321]

I thought that the interaction between Chloe and Clark was great. Hopefully it continues throughout the season.

[cayayofm]

I thought the same thing they are finally listening to the fans, tell me is really that hard? why can't we had this sort of continuity more often? When they put a little effort we had great results.

[Arista 07]

*slaps stray w/ cold fish*

I was taken aback by all the continuity, which really shouldn't be my genuine reaction. Continuity isn't supposed to be donut the food pyramid suggests we eat sparingly. It should be a very much prominent part of the show. Nevertheless, I'm glad for this unexpected treat: Pete, Alicia, Jason, Arrival, Shattered (s3!). It was yummy to ingest.

[sstray72]

Originally posted by Arista 07
*slaps stray w/ cold fish*


You didn't REALLY have to slap me... :lol:
But since you did, and it's still true... HOORAY CONTINUITY!! :D :D :D

I missed the reference to Shattered, what happened? I assume it was in the beginning when Lionel was imprisoned, I was a minute or two late. :\

Clana also referenced "No more Crystals, no more spaceships." :D

[Lindsey]

I was very excited to hear Pete mentioned since we haven't heard of him since he left! I clapped and screamed "OMG they mentioned PETE!" LoL!!! i think that was the best part of the episode actually! :). I have to admit, this is the only show I talk back to my tv at! LOL! :)

[Magus]

excellence. Maybe i'll still see Jake Ashmore on another episode.

[Summers]

it's about damn time lol. Let's just hope it continues. They seem to waver on this sort of thing like a tease :lol:.

[Rosey]

Yea, we have a little continuity!! :eek:

TPTB must have got some feedback.

All here can take a little credit for helping to make the world a better place.

[SteveS]

I have to admit I was stunned to hear the references to various people. It is too soon, but I am hopeful that TPTB have gotten a clue as how to write.

[Arista 07]

Originally posted by sstray72
You didn't REALLY have to slap me... :lol:
But since you did, and it's still true... HOORAY CONTINUITY!! :D :D :D

I missed the reference to Shattered, what happened? I assume it was in the beginning when Lionel was imprisoned, I was a minute or two late. :\

Clana also referenced "No more Crystals, no more spaceships." :D
But - but you demanded it. I thought it was a type of "pain for pleasure" thing. Perhaps, it was the rotting fish that turned you off. ;)

I think there was a Shattered reference during the scene where Lionel was shown to be held. I saw a couple of posters mention it and therefore included it in my rundown.

I got a sort of sinking feeling when Clark mentioned the crystals. I would have rathered them never been mentioned again. There's no need to drudge up bad memories.

[LanaandPete]

I'm in shock, SV had continuity for the first time and Pete was mentioned(See, that wasnt so hard). I can imagine Chloe emailing Pete about Clark now

[Beans]

Originally posted by WillTheBrave
all i have to say is woot for continuity.

oh and what was the donnie darko reference, which btw was a great movie

It probably wasn't on purpose, but when the sheriff hit the forcefield, from the angle they were shooting it sort of looked like she could have been stabbing it, and then it did that white ripply thing. Again, probably wasn't intended to be an allusion, but it's nice anyway :).

[sstray72]

Originally posted by Arista 07
But - but you demanded it. I thought it was a type of "pain for pleasure" thing. Perhaps, it was the rotting fish that turned you off. ;)


So not a Masochist... :lol: But rotting fishes aren't very sexay either. :p

Continuity is a wonderful thing, lets just hope that TPTB continue their experiment of coherent writing...

[drwood]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
I can imagine Chloe emailing Pete about Clark now

Might not be a good idea...Lex is probably in the process of tapping into Chloe's email account as we speak :).

[The Astronomer]

[/B][/QUOTE]I think there was a Shattered reference during the scene where Lionel was shown to be held. I saw a couple of posters mention it and therefore included it in my rundown. [/B][/QUOTE]

Teaser scene - Lionel in padded room wearing straight jacket stairing at mirrored wall. Lex is on other side watching Lionel. Very nice scene. Too bad there was no Johnny Cash tune accompanying the scene.

[tejdog1]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
I'm in shock, SV had continuity for the first time and Pete was mentioned(See, that wasnt so hard). I can imagine Chloe emailing Pete about Clark now

LOL, don't get carried away. We'll probably end up paying for this in the long run.

[MBCorp]

Maybe Lucas will even get mentioned sometime! :eek:

[superspider02]

i was glad for the pete and alicia mentions finally they are adding for CONTINUITY in episodes. WAY to go

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by sstray72
Alicia and Jason mentions! Clark never REALLY loved Alicia, even though he said he did though... :\ I found that weird as a ljkgfh;lsadhjsal'lhnma;hja;lhj..

So now he never really loved Alicia after almost killing another man claiming he did. TPTB are slipping more then usual.

on the other hand

WE GOT AN ALICIA MENTION!!

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by drwood
Might not be a good idea...Lex is probably in the process of tapping into Chloe's email account as we speak :).

Weird thing about that is that Lex actually knows that Pete knows something, from Forsaken, and he only assumes Chloe knows, so why doesnt Lex go after Pete

[Lexgirl33]

:lol: this thread

[smallvillerox05]

1. The opening Belle Reve scene was a direct opposite of the end of Shattered. And The Astronomer, IMO having Cash on here would havebeen overkill.

2. There HAS been continuity in the show before. Prime examples:
a. The lead box from season one showing up in Memoria.
b. Lionel's scar at the end of season three.
c. Lines of dialogue between Lionel and Lex have been referred to.

From Hothead

Lex: if you had a problem, why didn't you pick up the phone and call me?

Lionel: We have a reporting structure. [He turns away] Just because you're my son, don't expect any special treatment.

Lex: Believe me, I never have.

Lionel: [Turning back around irately and walking towards Lex] That wounded-pride routine may have worked for your mother, but don't try it with me. [Lionel has advanced to Lex's side of the desk. He reaches out a hand to touch Lex's face. Lex pulls back. Lionel grabs the lip of Lex's chair instead. Lex keeps his head turned away] You know perfectly well how I feel about you.

Lex: Hence, I'm at a crap factory in Smallville.

Lionel: Lex... Did you know Caesars would send their sons to the furthermost corners of the empire so they could get an appreciation of how the world works?

Lex: Whatever helps you sleep at night, Dad.

[/i]From Stray[/i]Lionel: Shouldn't you be packing?

Lex: I'm not going back to Metropolis.

Lionel: [Chuckles] Come on, Lex. That's all you've wanted since I assigned you to what you so eloquently refer to as "the crap factory."

Lex: I know why you want me back. I'm driving you crazy, aren't I? I'm not clubbing till 6 A.M., not getting arrested. I'm on track. That's what scares you. You want me back where you can keep an eye on me.

Lionel: You're making a mistake, Lex.

Lex: You know what those emperors you're so fond of talking about were really afraid of? That their sons would become successful and return to Rome at the head of their own army.

Lionel: You think you can find your future in Smallville? I'm your future. Join me, Lex. Join me in Metropolis. How long have you been waiting to hear my say those words?

Lex: I've waited to hear other things from you for a lot longer. I'll return to Metropolis when I'm ready.

Lionel: At the head of an army?
Not to mention the last bold line and when Lex said in Truth that the one thing he wants is for Lionel to love him.

So continuity HAS existed. Having said that, it was still great to know that tptb hadn't forgotten about all of the characters. :)

[Godko]

As my 2 cents goes... TPTB has done good with the beginning of season 5... i only hope it lasts the whole season.

[SuperStupidPower]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Continuity?! No way!! I don't believe it!

Steven DeKnight must be trying to make up for Ageless.

Are you serious!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

*shocked silence*

Ok, that does it, Steven DeKnight has mulitple personality disorder...

Julie a two year old with a box of crayons was the personality that wrote Ageless... and Freaking Joss Wheadon must have possessed him or something to produce an episode this good.

(sorry about making another post about continunity, I was just too excited to read anything before posting.)

[chrismen]

yes please keep it up. it makes the older episodes actually worth something

[bigville]

actually, how did clark come back to the house in his parents truck if he went there with Chloe's dune buggie :confused:

[SuperStupidPower]

Originally posted by smallvillerox05
So continuity HAS existed. Having said that, it was still great to know that tptb hadn't forgotten about all of the characters. :)

Oh sure... continunity HAS existed in some meager form...

Clark learns a power... hey! he still has it three weeks later! yay!

But we are talking a DRAMATIC increase in continunity in this episode.

Last week we had what... shelby? Clark catching a car...

This week had the stuff that last week ignored (Pete, Alicia), carried over stuff that was not completed in the previous episode (Lex vs. Chloe / Chloe & Clark), planted props within the episode (flashlight, flash grenade), every character had a reason for their actions and motives throughout the entire episode!!

Why do the Kents show up in the nick of time to become hostages... well cause Clark hadnt brought the dang nails yet. Why did Lana go get nails with Clark... cause she wanted to get nai.... ahem... well, you know! The sheriff shows up... THE SHERIFF NOTICED THE FREAKING CIGS!!!!!!!!!! name ANY other episode of Smallville where the Sheriff would notice the cigs!!! (or the equilivent.)

I recall an episode very similar to this. Police have a hospital barracaded with hostages inside. Clark shows up and talks his way in with the "medicine".

Now in that episode, a sniper shot the bomber, the bomb disappeared, clark disappeared and a farmers cellar got vaporized... AND NO ONE WENT SO MUCH AS "HMMM"

Dont tell me Smallville has always had continuity... I would have to beat myself stupid to even begin to consider agreeing with you.

[vyperman7]

It is not like Smallville never had any continuity, but it is very rare in this show. It has always pretty much had a stand alone format, with a few episodes a year that happen to tie together. But the events from a season, usually stay in that season, with the acception of Clark's powers carrying over. It still cracks me up with some of the things they choose to have continuity in. Take Chloe's car for example. She is still driving the same car, whereas Pete was driving a different car every other episode... LOL

[smallvillerox05]

Oh sure... continunity HAS existed in some meager form...
Did I SAY that continuity has been great throughout the show? No, can't recall saying anything like that at all. All I said is that continuity in one form or another has existed.

Somebody else said season four had bad continuity. Well, what about Gone? Clark noticed the cigars Sam offered Jonathan in Lex's office, that's how he knew Lex and Sam were working together. We later saw the same cigars in Sam's office. Also, the beginning of Gone picked up right after the end of Crusade. Both of which you pointed out as shining examples:

This week had the stuff that last week ignored (Pete, Alicia), carried over stuff that was not completed in the previous episode (Lex vs. Chloe / Chloe & Clark), planted props within the episode (flashlight, flash grenade), every character had a reason for their actions and motives throughout the entire episode!!
While it is true that Mortal had more than average continuity, the show has had continuity before. That's all I said.

Dont tell me Smallville has always had continuity... I would have to beat myself stupid to even begin to consider agreeing with you.
Gee, thanx for needlessly calling me stupid.

Oh, and by the way. The episode when Clark took care of the bomb after the sniper shot the bomber (his name was "Garrett Davis", played by the same actor that played Iceman's little brother in X2 btw), what was the episode's name? I know. :p


It is not like Smallville never had any continuity, but it is very rare in this show. It has always pretty much had a stand alone format, with a few episodes a year that happen to tie together. But the events from a season, usually stay in that season, with the acception of Clark's powers carrying over. It still cracks me up with some of the things they choose to have continuity in. Take Chloe's car for example. She is still driving the same car, whereas Pete was driving a different car every other episode... LOL
He had to, he wrecked a car every other episode. :lol:

[SuperStupidPower]

lol, yeah I worried I crossed a line there :) sorry... wasnt honestly intentional... only subconciously :)

----

But can you honestly say you wern't a bit flustered by the eipsode tonight? I left going... "wow! I can't even remember all the cool stuff that happened!"

ps. I wasn't even sure of the name of tonights episode :|

[smallvillerox05]

Nah, don't worry about it. At least I know it wasn't intentional. :)

And I never said I wasn't impressed with the episode. I really was. And I was surprised at Alicia's mention (but not about Pete and the spaceship, I read those lines of dialogue a couple of months ago. ;)) However, I wasn't blown away simply by the continuity of mentioning a couple of long gone characters. I was more excited about the entire episode overall than with the word "Alicia" being muttered.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

LMAO don't you just love it, they mention Jason and Alicia as basically an afterthought. I mean these were two people Clark and Lana were supposed to have loved, but yet Clark says "you're the only person I've ever loved" I guess that shows how fickle both Clark and Lana truly are :rolleyes:

I do have to say continuity WOW

[shoeboy]

I think they only went with continuty because of what happened in both the Season finale and Season Premiere. When you consider how many things that happened there was alot to explain and alot of ground to cover:
- Lana killed Genevive
- Lionel gets put in a Kryptonite trance
- A metor shower hit smallville
- Jason died
- The Kent's home was destroyed
- The three stones unite sending Chloe and Clark to the Arctic
- The fortress of solitude is built
- Lex knows that Clark and Chloe were in the caves with him
- Lex finds Chloe in the Yukon
- Lex finds Clark at the Kent farm
- Spaceship Lands on earth
- 2 Disciples of Zod try to get Clark to join them
- Clark emprisons the disciples and they leave earth
- Clark loses his powers
- Chloe tells Clark she knows his secret
- A new villian (James Masters) escapes from the Space ship
- etc...

It seems they didn't want to have to spend to much time on any of that right now. But at the same time they want to show that the chacters have addressed those issues (Clark says lets forget all that stuff, it's all part of the past) and have moved on. At the same time the episode served to set up the direction of future episodes.

Over it was a great episode.

[Godko]

I can't wait to see how Brainiac is protrayed by James Masters

[drwood]

Speaking of continuity, it would have been nice after the Clark/Lex fight for Clark to mention his time in the hospital with a broken rib (from Season 1's "Leech") when Lex came to see if he was really hurt -- would have served as more evidence to prove his point.

That would have been a nice way to tie everything in, but maybe asking for a Season 1 reference in Season 5 is a little too much...

[4EverSmallville]

I hope it's not too much wishful thinking to want SV to continue this line of continuity. Mortal was definitely a solid episode and the little references to past episodes made it even better. They should keep this up, I actually wondered if it was really SV when they mentioned Pete on top of Alicia, Jason, and the ship.

[Godko]

I hope TPTB keeps this up. To have it drop mid season or even early into the season after what they've done w/ the past 2 episodes would really look bad on them. If they keep up with what they are doing now... their ratings on the show would probably increase, thus possibly even a sixth season of the show.

[RedKalEL]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Continuity?! No way!! I don't believe it!

Steven DeKnight must be trying to make up for Ageless.

DeKnight is great as was this episode and the refernces He's my favortie writer so i usually get exicted when i see him on the credits lol

[Godko]

He did an excellent job with this episode

[Lana_Lang #1]

I loved the continuity I almost died when they mentioned everything. This whole episode was like a dream come true!

[spideyfan]

Mentioning Pete and the ship was cool! Very good episode! Very promising season! Bring back PETE!

[regan2218]

Originally posted by mansuper
Shelby was killed in the meteor shower!
shelby was not killed in the meteor shower because when lois pulled up to the house right after the meteor shower she said something to shelby and shelby was alive sorry if someone has already said this but i'm just scanning through and i saw this qoute

[Godko]

yes.. bring back PETE... it'd be a family reunion

[Lambshank]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD THEY MENTIONED PETE?!?!

I sware I had to pinch myself to check I wasn't dreaming.

[cmgames]

Continuity would be like Clark saying, yea I loved Alicia or I thought I loved her but your the only one i've ever loved Lana. Something of that ilk, continuity isn't name dropping.

[Godko]

this still begs the question of how is clark goin to explain his disappering act in the next episode

[cheezedawg]

You know, there is a reason that they avoid dragging old story lines along for the sake of continuity- it makes it harder to attract new people to watch the show! Imagine trying to start to watch a show like 24 or Prison Break in the middle of a season- you would be totally lost. They want to keep each episode as self-contained as possible so new viewers can pick up the show without feeling lost by all of the references to things they haven't seen.

Of course they have to strike a balance between making it easy to attract new viewers and ticking off the existing fan base. It looks like they are still working on that balance.

[President_Luthor]

The final credits just rolled from 'Mortal' a minute ago. I really liked this episode. When they actually showed the whole town raising the Kent barn, that was a good sign of the "c-word": continuity!

Pete, Alicia and Jason ..... mentioned in one episode! Know what that means?

A) An acknowledgment that Pete was the first person to be trusted with the secret, and that Clark hasn't filled in all the details about his self-propagating lies "to protect people." I wonder how he explained his instant tension with Pete after 'Velocity'. Pete made him 'lie' to Lex? Wow, Pete got a mention. An accomplishment in itself!

For the record, giving Pete a two-line props doesn't mean all of his issues can now be forgotten. Pete 'knows' the secret ... and his family paid a very high price for Clark's current happiness. Something about an adoption and a corn factory, as I recall. ;)

B) Clark and Lana may have been used by their poser soulmates, Alicia and Jason (she was obsessed/he wanted those stones) -- but all of that 'only one I've ever loved' crap they harped about this whole episode made it sound like it didn't matter that they 'used' Alicia and Jason during their relationships. Kinda makes Clark's 'Scream of Sorrow' after Alicia's death seem rather hollow, eh.

I'm cautiously optimistic that Captain Continuity will live on beyond this episode. Wouldn't it be great if we saw Smallville gradually rebuild itself throughout the season?

We may never hear about Alicia or Jason again, but Great Scott, they've got to mention Pete more than once this season since *cough* he ... KNOWS ... the secret.

Perhaps Pete himself will have to return to Smallville to resolve all of his issues, since both Clark and Lex have much to answer for.

Continuity lives (for now), but it won't be in stable condition if everyone forgets what happened the previous ep -- let alone last year or more!

Hang in there, Pete! If continuity lives, than that means 'you' live :D.

[angelfire east]

LOVE the tilte of this thread, it's just how I felt while watching this episode.

[smallvillefan26]

Originally posted by Beans
I know! I loved it! And did anyone else see that Donnie Darko reference?
Continuity and Allusions!! Clana and a bit of Chlark!
Definitely the best episode in at least a season, keeps my hopes up for the rest! What was the Donnie Darko reference? I didn't notice it.

[Chesay]

Continuity is obviously not impossible for the writers and, hopefully, it will continue to be addressed throughout the season. It gives the season more credibility and ties things up so much better when it is present. Doesn't seem like such a lot to do and it pays dividends big time when fans are so appreciative of the effort. Thanks writers for the effort and may it continue and not just be a one-time pat on our heads kind of thing. We'll be watching.

[Miss L]

I just rewatched this ep and my favorite part of the many actual bits of continuity (YAY!) was that all the freaks in Belle Reve are still talking about Clark.

Of course if that many people in a mental institution are all fixated on Clark, wouldn't the doctors wonder if maybe there was some truth to their rantings?

But anyway. Nice to have a tip of the hat to all the freaks of the week of the past 4 seasons.