An Alicia mention. Wow!

[F-Stop Blues]

i couldnt believe it.

[chrismen]

yeah, i didn't even really notice. thanks for pointing it out

[MediaGuy0979]

Where was it? I missed it. What was said?

[shy175223]

when they were alon the loft. Jason was also mentioned.

[PETER WEST]

I was shoocked, For the first time ever in the history of smallville a mention of (past dead characters)

(1) Alicia

(2) Jason

pretty impressive

[chrismen]

yeah, don't forget the pretty much dead, Pete

[shy175223]

alll in one episode. since when does that ever happen in SV.

[MidgardDragon]

This'll probably be the only Pete/Alicia/Jason ground covered this season. Personally, I prefer it that way, but don't get your hopes up if you think this is a sign of things to come.

At least now that it's out of the way we can focus on future episodes instead of reflecting on the past.

[Beans]

Yes, but I thought that they were great. I mean, the way they mentioned Pete was terrific. Now all of the original trio know and are aware of it!

[Arista 07]

Yeah and then directly afterwards Clark monologues about Lana being the only girl he has ever loved. And here I was thinking Alicia was loved in life and death. Now, where did I get that silly idea?

[Zungas]

Guys never forget a girl like Alicia.

[shy175223]

oh please! I hope this is the last time her name is mentioned.

[manofsteele05]

Nah how can we FOTGET the iconic Alicia,,, yeah mentioning Pete was kinda cool but when Clark asked her about Jason I wasnt too thrilled at all....... but mentioning is just OKAY to me,,, bring those two back at least ONE MORE TIME

[shy175223]

I wouldn't mind pete being mentioned twice But Alicia uhh..

[donkor]

i don't watch clana scenes

can't stand lana's whining :(

[F-Stop Blues]

I thought clark totally short changed alicia. I mean in Pariah he said that he loved her but now that he's with lana that wasnt true.

The thing I love about clana right now is that its going to end and I cant wait for that.

[The Astronomer]

Season 3 (episode Extinct, I think) also had references to past characters. Lana and Chloe mentioned some past FoW that had threatened them. I seem to remember Lana saying that Tina Greer came back "for seconds".

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by The Astronomer
Season 3 (episode Extinct, I think) also had references to past characters. Lana and Chloe mentioned some past FoW that had threatened them. I seem to remember Lana saying that Tina Greer came back "for seconds".

yeah and they mentioned the guy from cool and Justin Gaines from Crush, along with Greg Arkin from Metamorphosis.

[Poetic Chaos]

Is it just me or is Clark a total jackoff for saying Lana's the only person he ever really loved right after Alicia is mentioned?!?!?!

[dizzy]

You know I wasn't the biggest Alicia fan but I soften to her in Pariah but this poor girl doesn't get a break even in death Clark dismissed her pretty fast ........Lana you've always been the one (gag)

[UDStyle]

That was the best momment for me. Finally Alicia has come back to smallville! *pays The Rock for plagerism*

As a Sarah Carter fan, I loved that.

[lana&Clark4ever]

hahaha O wow he said alicia.....clark: alicia? no. you've been always the one LA-Nuh. :D

[pop-n-fresh]

Great episode! They were right: everything you wanted to see and hear in one episode. Now that Pete and Alicia were at least mentioned, do you think TPTB could bring them back?

PnF

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
hahaha O wow he said alicia.....clark: alicia? no. you've been always the one LA-Nuh. :D

have your moment because its going to come crashing down.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by pop-n-fresh
Great episode! They were right: everything you wanted to see and hear in one episode. Now that Pete and Alicia were at least mentioned, do you think TPTB could bring them back?

PnF Submit them a copy of that fanfic :D

[Jor'el_Ted]

How much better could that episode be?! Three lines mentioning past characters that give you that nostalgic feeling! :D

Now all i'm waiting for is for someone ta use kryptonite to resurect Alicia......Jason can rot in whatever hole Shelby dumped him in. :)

[chrismen]

Originally posted by pop-n-fresh
Great episode! They were right: everything you wanted to see and hear in one episode. Now that Pete and Alicia were at least mentioned, do you think TPTB could bring them back?

PnF
Wait I forgot what happened to Alicia? Didn't she die or something? Maybe Pete can come back.

[constancelight]

Originally posted by Poetic Chaos
Is it just me or is Clark a total jackoff for saying Lana's the only person he ever really loved right after Alicia is mentioned?!?!?!

No it's not just you. I was totally like WTF? Clark was a total ass for dissing Alicia. Apparently she died for nothing.

[Jor'el_Ted]

Originally posted by constancelight
No it's not just you. I was totally like WTF? Clark was a total ass for dissing Alicia. Apparently she died for nothing.

I accually didn't take much notice to that part, I was too focused on flashing back to him and Alicia in their Vegas hotel room. :p

[F-Stop Blues]

The other thing that bugged me was that lana was with jason for about a year but now he's dead, which she showed no emotion toward in arrival, so she can have sex with clark.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I thought clark totally short changed alicia. I mean in Pariah he said that he loved her but now that he's with lana that wasnt true.

The thing I love about clana right now is that its going to end and I cant wait for that.

Yeah, I thought the same thing.....would have been better if he hadn't said anything. Didn't seem right. It kind of makes Clark look like a jerk and makes his emotional scene where Lois stops him from killing the FOW......well, lets just say that it's another scene where I just have to laugh now......again.....would have been much better if he just shut up.

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Arista 07
Yeah and then directly afterwards Clark monologues about Lana being the only girl he has ever loved. And here I was thinking Alicia was loved in life and death. Now, where did I get that silly idea?

He said Lana was the only girl he ahs TRULY loved. I think he loved Alicia, but it wasnt as strong of a love as the one he has for Lana.

[shy175223]

Or maybe he thought he loved her. Maybe after learning what Alicia did and how she betrayed him he thought he might never loved her at all.

[Hopefulsuicide]

wow, i am so surprised about this... i mean its not much, but its a start

ive just watched angel season 5 for the first time over two days, and looking at the continuity, the way they manage to bring in things from back in season 1 of buffy, remember characters you loved but thought where long gone, and make sure that all characters who are gone are still remember (e.g. showing the tape of doyle again) is just so incredible

so a 'mention' of three characters in one episode, that almost seems to serve the purpose of getting the fans to quit complaining just isnt gonna cut it

[Ms.Lane]

Lay off Clark. Its not that unusual for a young person to feel like he is in love with someone--the feelings are strong at the time, but he didn't know Alicia well enough to love her for real. And frankly, from what he did know about her, I can't see how he could love her. She was always getting him in trouble and she'd betray him on a whim--no matter how awesome it is that Chloe knows, what Alicia did was a huge betrayal of trust, and she drugged him with red-K for chrissakes. All that was after she was "reformed," I won't even get into the stunts she pulled in "Obsession." Clark was in love with the idea of someone "like him." He is in love with Lana, the actual person, and always has been.

But he won't always be. :)

[KalLover07]

Poor girl.
I thought it was an Alicia diss.
I wish that relationship would of lasted longer than two episodes. I really liked them together.

[BringBackSarah!!]

Clark and Alicia may have dated, but we all know that Clark has always been in love with Lana, and Alicia has always been in love with me.

[The Source]

Originally posted by donkor
i don't watch clana scenes

can't stand lana's whining :(

Lana was whining? I must have missed that part. :)

Anyway, great to hear Alicia, Jason and Pete's names mentioned. We missed those guys! :D

[Daphne]

Ba bye Alicia. Maybe Clark doesn't feel so hot for her now that he knows she told Chloe his secret she promised to go to the grave with.
And Jason turned on Lana at the end there and she then knew that the relationship was a lie. That could have made her feel differently about him.

[SteveS]

Sydafex7 had it right with the word 'truly' used by Clark for his feeling for Alicia. It may have not been much but given what he and Lana were up to, that is about all that any guy would say to Lana. At least it was a form of continuity.

And in the end, ClarkMan got his best supporter, Chloe, from Alicia's 'betrayal.' Good deal for Clark, thanks Alicia.

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by Zungas
Guys never forget a girl like Alicia.

This is true. I remember every psycho I've ever had the misfortune of dating.

[Zungas]

I only remember the really hot psychos;)

[spideyfan]

yea mentioning them was cool...and Alicia coming from CK and Jason from Lana made it feel right...

[zanos]

Originally posted by Ms.Lane
Lay off Clark. Its not that unusual for a young person to feel like he is in love with someone--the feelings are strong at the time, but he didn't know Alicia well enough to love her for real. And frankly, from what he did know about her, I can't see how he could love her.

Quite frankly what does he know about Lana?!? His infatuatation and that's really all it is is just based on her looks. The only reason why he isn't in love with Chloe is because he doesn't find her attractive. Clark only picks the best.

[Lobby4Chloe]

I think it was necessary to bring up Alicia and Jason. Clark thought Jason and Lana were serious, which they were and even Chloe was surprised that they hadn't done it. Also, Jason was in college and older *and* got fired bc he was dating Lana, so everybody just assumed. Clark married Alicia and everybody knew it, so everybody just assumed too. It seemed to me like necessary ground to cover. Plus, Clark probably realized that Alicia was the one who ratted to Chloe, so maybe he changed his mind about her in retrospect.

[Ms.Lane]

Originally posted by zanos
Quite frankly what does he know about Lana?!? His infatuatation and that's really all it is is just based on her looks. The only reason why he isn't in love with Chloe is because he doesn't find her attractive. Clark only picks the best.
I definitely agree that Clark's feelings are based on her looks. Don't confuse me for a Clana fan because I'm certainly not. ;) There's only one woman for Clark (see username). But he does know Lana much better than he knew Alicia. He was around Alicia for a grand total of three weeks and he's been around Lana for practically his whole life and they've been "friends" for four years now, he must know something about her--and he must have found something he likes (hopefully besides her looks).

The only point I was trying to make was, even if/though his feelings for Lana are based on her looks, he still felt for her more than he ever felt for Alicia. As for Chloe, I think you're right about him not finding her attractive, but I also think he doesn't want to sacrifice the friendship. And that's probably why they'll remain friends after Lana and Clark go their separate ways.

[SmallTownSuperHero]

"Guys never forget a girl like Alicia."

Yeah, those psychotic crazy attempted murderers are hard to forget.

[Jor'el_Ted]

Originally posted by zanos
Quite frankly what does he know about Lana?!? His infatuatation and that's really all it is is just based on her looks. The only reason why he isn't in love with Chloe is because he doesn't find her attractive. Clark only picks the best.

If Clark was all about looks then he would be in love with Lois and not Lana. I think Clark is definatly deeper than that. :)

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by zanos
Quite frankly what does he know about Lana?!? His infatuatation and that's really all it is is just based on her looks. The only reason why he isn't in love with Chloe is because he doesn't find her attractive. Clark only picks the best.

What? You mean to tell me, that out of ALL of those Loft scenes in the first and second seasons, (and some of the third) Clark didnt learn ANYTHING about Lana or the type of person she is? That's ********. They used to have deep conversations about all kinds of things almost every episode in the first and second seasons. It's not just infatuation. I would agree with you if what happened was CLark sqw Lana freshman year, never spoke to her, never became friends with her and now, all of a sudden they hookup because they find each other hot.

Did I not see the same first 2 seasons of the show that everyone else saw??

[Ultron]

I agree, Clark is deeper that what some people are giving him credit for. I also think him and Lana have been pining over each other long enough to believe they want to be with each other more than anyone else.

I know from personal experience I've had a relationship with someone for months, even though I would have preferred to have been with someone else in particular. And later on we broke up and I ended up with that person. I ended up marrying her, and we have 4 kids now.

It's totally believable, at least to me, that Clark and Lana can have good relationships with Jason and Alicia and later on move to each other, without somehow being disingenious to Jason or Alicia during the times they were with them.

[cmgames]

Originally posted by Ms.Lane
I definitely agree that Clark's feelings are based on her looks. Don't confuse me for a Clana fan because I'm certainly not. ;) There's only one woman for Clark (see username). But he does know Lana much better than he knew Alicia. He was around Alicia for a grand total of three weeks and he's been around Lana for practically his whole life and they've been "friends" for four years now, he must know something about her--and he must have found something he likes (hopefully besides her looks).


Clark definitely bases his feelings on looks. Why the hangup on Lana? He never seems to show interest in Chloe. Chloe has a great personality and is a pretty girl. They have never really explored the reason why he is inlove with Lana and it seems no one else can hold a candle to her. I don't get it and thats why this whole relationship thing falls down.

Lois is very definitely his equal. She isn't just the looks, she is the total package, so somewhere down the line Clark has to realise there is more to a relationship than just looks. To me SV Clark is shallow, he's 18 now, he needs to grow up.

[Alicia Baker]

^couldn't agree more... He needs to grow up and MOVE ON!!

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by cmgames
Clark definitely bases his feelings on looks. Why the hangup on Lana? He never seems to show interest in Chloe. Chloe has a great personality and is a pretty girl. They have never really explored the reason why he is inlove with Lana and it seems no one else can hold a candle to her. I don't get it and thats why this whole relationship thing falls down.

Lois is very definitely his equal. She isn't just the looks, she is the total package, so somewhere down the line Clark has to realise there is more to a relationship than just looks. To me SV Clark is shallow, he's 18 now, he needs to grow up.

LIke I said, I must have seen a different season 1 and 2 than everyone else.

The reason he hasnt gone after Chloe is because HE LOVES LANA!! WHy is that so hard to understand?

Him NOT going after Chloe just furthers the point that he is in love with Lana and its not just looks. If it were just looks, the momen it failed with Lana the first time he wouldve gone to Chloe, but he didnt, because he only wants Lana and he hasnt stopped trying because thats the only gilr he wants to be with.

[cmgames]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
LIke I said, I must have seen a different season 1 and 2 than everyone else.

The reason he hasnt gone after Chloe is because HE LOVES LANA!! WHy is that so hard to understand?

Him NOT going after Chloe just furthers the point that he is in love with Lana and its not just looks. If it were just looks, the momen it failed with Lana the first time he wouldve gone to Chloe, but he didnt, because he only wants Lana and he hasnt stopped trying because thats the only gilr he wants to be with.


His depiction of being "inlove" with Lana has been borderline stalkerish to say the least. If he was so inlove with Lana how comes he was quick to think he was inlove with Alicia? Sudden rush of blood I guess, probably the same rush he feels for Lana. Personally I don't get it. Both Lana and Chloe have been portrayed as nice, sweet girls who have good personalities. So there can only be one other reason why he would want Lana over Chloe, that basis is looks.

Lana is just a home body. Clarks destiny is far greater than hers, why would he be attracted to someone like that? He'd want somebody who will be his equal and can challenge him. Thats not Lana.

[Alicia Baker]

yep, that's not Lana. But he thinks she's his soulmate or something... the question is: Why he hasn't told her his secret?

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Originally posted by cmgames
Personally I don't get it. Both Lana and Chloe have been portrayed as nice, sweet girls who have good personalities. So there can only be one other reason why he would want Lana over Chloe, that basis is looks.

Clark and Chloe is a 'ship that will never happen and thankfully BARELY happened in the past. Did everyone forget that Chloe and Lois are cousins in the Smallville universe? Clark having a serious relationship with Chloe for a while only to marry her cousin years later would be kinda un-Superman-like--that's a pretty low thing to do, even if you're not Superman.

Chloe's a great person with a great personality, but being a great person doesn't mean the person you're infuated with has to love you back. Friendships are better built solely on personality. Romantic relationships have to involve a lot more.

It isn't that Clark is not attracted to Chloe, he is. Check out Red (he stopped looking at Lana long enough to discover Chloe's birthmark didn't he?) and Rush (self-explanatory). The fact that he's never seemed romantically interest in Chloe, and only sexually interested in her is what makes me believe if Clark were choosing based on looks alone, he'd choose Chloe, considering that he seems more physically and lustfully attracted to Chloe than to Lana, whom he seems more reserved around (anothe red-k example: Exile)--likely because he does truly love her.

How can Clark love Lana? Lana has been a pivotal figure in Clark's life:

<>They lived next door to each other practically all their lives (since age 2 or 3, note for the curious: Clark and Chloe met at around 13). Typical girl-next-door, boy-next-door crushes.

<>Lana has been unattainable for quite a long-time (first because of the necklace, then because of Whitney and her other boyfriends, or just because of SECRETS & LIES); we always want the unattainable.

<>Once they got past the necklace issue, Clark & Lana were able to develop a serious friendship (imo) and they shared just about everything (save for Clark's secret, of course).

<>Clark was infatuated with Lana, yes; imo, his infatuation waned and grew into something deeper when he and Lana started getting close (from the Pilot). Besides, there's nothing wrong with crushes.

<>Clark and Lana, as seen in episodes like Calling and Mortal, make each other happy. How can anyone knock that?

Now...the one piece of BULLCRAP I hate reading all over this board by those with vehement Lana/Clana hatred, is that because Clark has to fall in love with Lois in the future, there is no way that he can truly love Lana (so it must be lust).

Do any of you really think it's impossible to truly love someone, fall out of love with that person, and then truly fall in love with another person later in life? I believe it's VERY possible (I have to admit I don't really believe in soulmates--my stand on that is far more complicated and a lengthy discussion by itself...).

Lastly, another excuse people give for Clark not truly loving Lana is that he doesn't tell her his secret. Ummm...even in the comic versions, Clark marries Lois before telling her (right? I know some versions vary, but he does wait quite a long time before telling her in all versions; some versions have Lois knowing for quite a long time, though Clark doesn't know she knows). Some secrets are better left kept, even from a girlfriend--especially when knowing that secret could get the girl killed.

[SmallvilleMan]

PREACH IT SISTER^^^^^^:D

[ma200]

Originally posted by ScrappyTheOwl

How can Clark love Lana? Lana has been a pivotal figure in Clark's life:

<>They lived next door to each other practically all their lives (since age 2 or 3, note for the curious: Clark and Chloe met at around 13). Typical girl-next-door, boy-next-door crushes.

<>Lana has been unattainable for quite a long-time (first because of the necklace, then because of Whitney and her other boyfriends, or just because of SECRETS & LIES); we always want the unattainable.

<>Once they got past the necklace issue, Clark & Lana were able to develop a serious friendship (imo) and they shared just about everything (save for Clark's secret, of course).

<>Clark was infatuated with Lana, yes; imo, his infatuation waned and grew into something deeper when he and Lana started getting close (from the Pilot). Besides, there's nothing wrong with crushes.

<>Clark and Lana, as seen in episodes like Calling and Mortal, make each other happy. How can anyone knock that?

Now...the one piece of BULLCRAP I hate reading all over this board by those with vehement Lana/Clana hatred, is that because Clark has to fall in love with Lois in the future, there is no way that he can truly love Lana (so it must be lust).

Do any of you really think it's impossible to truly love someone, fall out of love with that person, and then truly fall in love with another person later in life? I believe it's VERY possible (I have to admit I don't really believe in soulmates--my stand on that is far more complicated and a lengthy discussion by itself...).

Lastly, another excuse people give for Clark not truly loving Lana is that he doesn't tell her his secret. Ummm...even in the comic versions, Clark marries Lois before telling her (right? I know some versions vary, but he does wait quite a long time before telling her in all versions; some versions have Lois knowing for quite a long time, though Clark doesn't know she knows). Some secrets are better left kept, even from a girlfriend--especially when knowing that secret could get the girl killed. [/B]

In the comics, has Clark ever slept with Lois without ever telling her about his true heritage? I doubt it.

You claim that he loves Lana but does he really respect her at all? because him sleeping with her without telling her that he's an alien just shows HOW MUCH respect he has for her :rolleyes:

[SmallvilleMan]

Clark believes he's human for the upteenth time

[ma200]

Just because he believes he's human, does not change the fact that he's an alien. and my god, he's a frickin' idiot.

[Kal-El & Me]

Originally posted by zanos
Quite frankly what does he know about Lana?!? His infatuatation and that's really all it is is just based on her looks. The only reason why he isn't in love with Chloe is because he doesn't find her attractive. Clark only picks the best.

I think you're going a little far saying that THE ONLY reason Clark isn't IN LOVE with Chloe is because he doesn't find her attractive. For Christ sake he's going to become Superman. I think he would go after girls for something besides their looks. And he did have feelings for Chloe at one time.

I think I'm going to start a thread for this in the Characters forum under Clark. We're getting a little off topic here.

[SmallvilleMan]

He had feelings for chloe for about two episodes.

[Kal-El & Me]

Thats true SmallvilleMan. But two episodes Smallville time could be up to a month. Still not as long as he had felings for Lana though.

Alright I made a thread where you can discuss this (clark loving lana only for her looks) I hope the stupid link works.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42654

Does the link work? It doesn't seem to on my computer.

[crazymonkeys007]

it works

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Originally posted by ma200
In the comics, has Clark ever slept with Lois without ever telling her about his true heritage? I doubt it.

You claim that he loves Lana but does he really respect her at all? because him sleeping with her without telling her that he's an alien just shows HOW MUCH respect he has for her :rolleyes:

If Lois & Clark got married without him informing her of his alter-ego (and I'm nearly positive they did--but Lois knew, only Clark didn't know she knew he was Superman, much like Clark & Chloe for half of last year), then I think think it's safe to say they slept together without Clark telling Lois about his heritage.

I fail to see how the Clark/Lana issue has anything to do with respect. Can you elaborate on what you mean? By the logic I'm getting, you think that Clark disrespects anyone he gets close to if he doesn't tell them his secret--in which case Clark Kent/Superman of the future is disrespecting anyone who knows either one of his sides ... I don't look at it as disrespect, I look at it as protection (like Jor-El told him in the movies, IIRC, telling people he knows can only put them in danger, for obvious reasons). Of course you could just be relating the respect issue to sex, which I hope is not the case because that's a very stupid argument.

I really don't get what the big deal is ... if I found out I was sleeping with an alien after a good couple of months, even years of it (sleeping with an alien, that is), I'd find it pretty damn cool. Certainly takes the edge off the first time, eh (not knowing)? ;)

-->Jamie

[zanos]

Originally posted by Sydafex7
LIke I said, I must have seen a different season 1 and 2 than everyone else.

The reason he hasnt gone after Chloe is because HE LOVES LANA!! WHy is that so hard to understand?

Him NOT going after Chloe just furthers the point that he is in love with Lana and its not just looks. If it were just looks, the momen it failed with Lana the first time he wouldve gone to Chloe, but he didnt, because he only wants Lana and he hasnt stopped trying because thats the only gilr he wants to be with.

Wow great deductive reasoning. You might actually want to provide an actual reason why he loves her other than saying he just does.

[F-Stop Blues]

What a surprise, a shipper war.

[ma200]

Originally posted by ScrappyTheOwl
If Lois & Clark got married without him informing her of his alter-ego (and I'm nearly positive they did--but Lois knew, only Clark didn't know she knew he was Superman, much like Clark & Chloe for half of last year), then I think think it's safe to say they slept together without Clark telling Lois about his heritage.

I fail to see how the Clark/Lana issue has anything to do with respect. Can you elaborate on what you mean? By the logic I'm getting, you think that Clark disrespects anyone he gets close to if he doesn't tell them his secret--in which case Clark Kent/Superman of the future is disrespecting anyone who knows either one of his sides ... I don't look at it as disrespect, I look at it as protection (like Jor-El told him in the movies, IIRC, telling people he knows can only put them in danger, for obvious reasons). Of course you could just be relating the respect issue to sex, which I hope is not the case because that's a very stupid argument.

I really don't get what the big deal is ... if I found out I was sleeping with an alien after a good couple of months, even years of it (sleeping with an alien, that is), I'd find it pretty damn cool. Certainly takes the edge off the first time, eh (not knowing)? ;)

-->Jamie

What I meant about respect is about being considerate of other people's feelings...

ok, fine. If Lana doesn't b!#$h about him not being honest with her for the umteenth time even after they have sex for ?? times, then I see your point. But if she does have a problem with the "secrets and lies" BS, well then there you go.

BTW, how did Lois react when she found out?

[Tacosupes]

Peter West, they've mentioned deceased characters in Smallville plenty of times, post mortem. Like: Ryan, PHELAN(the dirty cop who found Clarks secret) Greg Arkan(BUG BOY) , Whitney, Tina Greer, The Linguist who went krypto crazy, And the guy who stole people's body heat and froze them from season one. Smallville has plenty of continuity, that's what makes the stories great, they all connect. Some writers are better at connecting the stories seamlessly than others. Kelly Sounders wrote "MORTAL" and she is a SV season 2 vet. The Season 2 and 3 writers were the best. AnD season 1 writers were great too, dont get me wrong.

And stop the Chloe / Lana shipper thing. No matter what Chole may want or "think" she wants She and Clark are friends Just friends. Girlfriends come and go, but friends last longer. With Pete gone, Clark needs someone he can confide and and help him on his "missions" Chloe is taht person, mortal really underscored that. Lana is his love interest and he probally wouldn't want to put her in danger like that. Plus the fact THAT they Introduced LOIS LANE into the show implies that it may eventually become a power strugglebetween HER and LANA, and this whole stupid "shipper " thing will take a new dimension.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
Kelly Sounders wrote "MORTAL" and she is a SV season 2 vet.

Steven S. DeKnight wrote Mortal.

[Tacosupes]

No steven s. dnight PRODUCED MORTAL. There's a difference between WRITING and PRODUCING. I have the episode on tape but, so dont try to rewrite history, or at least check your facts before posting.

OWNED.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
No steven s. dnight PRODUCED MORTAL. There's a difference between WRITING and PRODUCING. I have the episode on tape but, so dont try to rewrite history, or at least check your facts before posting.

OWNED.

Seriously Deknight wrote it. FYI Kelly Souders is in a writing team with Brian Peterson. She doesnt write eps by herself.

Also I haev the ep tivoed. The writing credit belongs to Deknight and the directing credit belongs to Terrence O'hara. Perhaps you should check out your tape my misinformed friend.

Not to beat a dead horse but his writing credit comes during the barn raising scene when Chloe says to clark "Are you sure this is what you want." So there you go.

[Summers]

Parker is right. DeKnight wrote "Mortal".

[aqua]

Click here to see who wrote it ;) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/Dennys/mortal0132.jpg)

[cayayofm]

This was the first DeKnights scritpt that I thought does justice to the fact the he was part of the Buffy and Angel writting team.

[Tacosupes]

Yeah youre right, Deknight wrote Mortal, I just double checked. Kelly sounders and Brian peterson were some of the producers on mortal, thats where I saw her name. And S, Deknight also co-executive produced mortal, thatss why I thought he just produced it. Anyway, that doesnt change much as, my point was the BETTER writers on smallvile do a better job of connecting loose ends on old episodes.

Thanks for nitpicking and COMEPLETELY missing the point, the internet is a better place with posters like you.

[aqua]

Well, when you rudely say something, tell a poster to check his fact when you got it wrong in the first place, and aren't even polite about it..

[Sydafex7]

Originally posted by Tacosupes
Yeah youre right, Deknight wrote Mortal, I just double checked. Kelly sounders and Brian peterson were some of the producers on mortal, thats where I saw her name. And S, Deknight also co-executive produced mortal, thatss why I thought he just produced it. Anyway, that doesnt change much as, my point was the BETTER writers on smallvile do a better job of connecting loose ends on old episodes.

Thanks for nitpicking and COMEPLETELY missing the point, the internet is a better place with posters like you.

What crawled up yout ass?? Dont be bitter because you are a moron

[Kal-El & Me]

lets be careful that they don't close the thread, guys.

[UDStyle]

ppl here are stuck on who wrote what and Clana relationships but I'm just happy to hear an Alicia mention.

[Alicia Baker]

Originally posted by ma200
Just because he believes he's human, does not change the fact that he's an alien. and my god, he's a frickin' idiot.

^I second that... What r they doing with my Clarky??

UDStyle yep! isn't that amazing? finally we got an alicia mention!! ok laterz

[F-Stop Blues]

Powerless or not clark is still an alien and I think before he gets intimate with someone he should divulge that type of information. I mean Lana's first sexual experience was with someone who was born in a different galaxy. Imo she has the right to know that.

[xxkittenstar]

i'm especially glad pete was mentioned. i mean, it's about time.

[ma200]

Originally posted by Alicia Baker
[B]^I second that... What r they doing with my Clarky??

And some people wonder why Lois teases/insults Clark all the time. :rolleyes:

[Alicia Baker]

LOL it's just... that's so silly, he's an alien with or without his powers...

[Ultron]

I think this is a good lesson for all of us not to jump on anyone too harshly, not just because we might be wrong. Just turns a thread too negative. :)

DeKnight is probably my favorite writer, just because of the fantastic story he wrote for Run. I am also very impressed with his work in Mortal. That shows he knows what the audience wants, and has no compunction about given them what they want. :D

[Kal-El & Me]

What Ultron said.

[ScrappyTheOwl]

Originally posted by Ultron
DeKnight is probably my favorite writer, just because of the fantastic story he wrote for Run. I am also very impressed with his work in Mortal. That shows he knows what the audience wants, and has no compunction about given them what they want. :D

I feel bad for ragging on DeKnight last year ... he more than made up for Ageless with Mortal. I feel I was too harsh on him--he only had continuity issues in Onyx, and that was the issue I loathed him most for--he put more continuity in Mortal than we saw in the last half of the fourth season, possibly (yeah, that's an exaggeration...). Other than Onyx (which was great if you ignore the continuity stuff) and Ageless, his other episodes were actually pretty god (Run, Spell, Unsafe) though none of them were my favorites of the season...

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the rest of his work this season ... though I don't know about Thirst--maybe this (and Spell last year) is his way of getting the last bits of Buffyverse out of his system, LOL.

[Tacosupes]

First, Im glad they mentioned Alicia. I wish she just moved to california rather than getting killed, but oh well the producers love killing people who know Clarks secret.

As far as Clark not dating Chloe, it has nothing to do with her looks. It has to do with Them being buddies since junior high. If you spend too much time around someone as just freinds its a little hard to switch gears to a romantic level. He did for a minute, but then he just reverted back to "friendship" right after the prom, because thats what he was most comfortable with around Chloe.

And Lois put it best, Chloe will outgrow her crush on Clark in college. I mean she already dated Jimmy Olsen, so she is trying to move on.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Arista 07
Yeah and then directly afterwards Clark monologues about Lana being the only girl he has ever loved. And here I was thinking Alicia was loved in life and death. Now, where did I get that silly idea?

The same place where we all forgot that Lana loved Jason enough to offer him up her Cherry as an hors d'oeuvre.....complete with toothpick!.........(sorry, I couldn't resist......she's pretty....but man, she is thin).

[Subzero]

Originally posted by constancelight
No it's not just you. I was totally like WTF? Clark was a total ass for dissing Alicia. Apparently she died for nothing.

This is a very accurate and insightful statement! Clark and Lana are both Schmucks for dissing Alicia and jason so that they can get their groove on. Also, it was during "Unsafe" that both Clark and Lana almost lost thier virginity to their respective partners. Had Jason not been feeling a little guilty and Alicia not been so scared of going back to Belle Reeve - Clark/Lana's first time might have been different