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Freezeia

09-30-2005, 09:57 AM

They decided not to let Clark learn the backflip because it would have upset all those pathetic die hard superman fans:

"Omg you guys, he's already learned the backflip! He can't learn the backflip now, in canon he doesn't learn the backflip until AFTER he becomes superman. The backflip has NO place on Smallville and I am just so Super pissed off right now at Al & Miles that I just want to scream."

Yes that's right, I went there.

arachkid

09-30-2005, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by flipshot
His new superpower is to be able to fool dumb disciples of Zod.

Amen.

I thought that was cheesy enough to be one of the best parts of the episode, and I loved the rest of the episode.

"Oh, oh, look, my finger's almost letting go <foolish Kryptonians, they don't realize that spending years without my Lana has given me plenty of practice with these strong fingers.... ha!>

SnarkMasterJ

09-30-2005, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Braniac
Clark's new power is the ability to consistently ignore Jor El despite Jor El's consistent accuracy in predicting bad things happening when Clark disobeys.

Ha! Well said.

And Clark's nonchalance about not having his powers anymore was really...brushed over. I mean think about it, that's been his life, and he's just gonna act like he's okay with being normal. He's been normal. It ain't fun. And let me tell you, if I could do farm work in 10 seconds flat, that'd be reason enough to be grateful for me. So I'd have to live a life of discerned secrecy...big whoop.

LoisNClark

09-30-2005, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by flipshot
His new superpower is to be able to fool dumb disciples of Zod.

:lol: deffinetly agree with that

BuZzArD 8012

09-30-2005, 01:15 PM

Shouldn't we be worried about how Clark is going to get his regular powers back?

nothingwithoutchloe

09-30-2005, 01:25 PM

Anybody wondering how after he got his grip back on that piece of metal he got to the 2 kryptonians. They didn't show it happen but he was in perfect position to maybe fly over there. I'm thinking they didn't show us how he got there just to keep us wondering what exactly it is that he did.

SmallvilleDieHard10

09-30-2005, 03:42 PM

Nothing, that's what I was thinking. I thought it was the same thing as in the Second Season Premiere when he "willed himself" out of it. I also think that the reason why Clark didn't learn anything new was because Chloe interrupted his studies in that portal thing at the FOS, He wasn't in it long and maybe he just hadn't gotten to his new abilities yet. There could be a million reason why he didn't get a new power.

Shapeshift

09-30-2005, 03:50 PM

Reason for him not getting powers. He was learning!! But then he saw Chloe freezing to death, so he couldn't just leave her. So when he returns to the FOS he's gonna learn some more.

Most relatable power would be Ice Breath.

1. He's in a fortress of ice..

2. I bet the SFX guys on the show wanna play around with the ice breath like they did with heat vision.

Like instead of red lasers it's actually shimmering heat. Maybe this could be a white stained cloud?

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

09-30-2005, 04:17 PM

People please stop calling it ice breath, that isn't what it's called. It's just plain ol' super breath. Making it ice breath gives it the restriction of only being used to freeze, when that isn't the only thing that happens. Sorry, but that's just a bit annoying...had to say that.

As for "how did Clark quickly grab the female Kryptonian?" thing, well he had his hand on the bar, he could have done a pull-up-esque swing toward them. He didn't need to fly if he was purpelling himself forward by his arms.

fash292

09-30-2005, 04:19 PM

He could learn a superpower later on this season.. Look at season 3.. and even if he didn't that's not that important to me.. He has enough superpowers to do wut he has to do.> I LOVED THIS EPISODe it was amzing the icicles wow...

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

09-30-2005, 04:21 PM

Yeah, he didn't learn anything in Season 4 and he survived.

SuperStupidPower

09-30-2005, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Freezeia
They decided not to let Clark learn the backflip because it would have upset all those pathetic die hard superman fans:

"Omg you guys, he's already learned the backflip! He can't learn the backflip now, in canon he doesn't learn the backflip until AFTER he becomes superman. The backflip has NO place on Smallville and I am just so Super pissed off right now at Al & Miles that I just want to scream."

Yes that's right, I went there.

Funniest post ever... the last line clinched it :)

LuckyKrypto

09-30-2005, 04:28 PM

Happy Random

09-30-2005, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by Braniac
Clark's new power is the ability to consistently ignore Jor El despite Jor El's consistent accuracy in predicting bad things happening when Clark disobeys.

:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl:

Wouldn't it have made sense for him to learn how to do that freeze breath thing? After all, he was in the Arctic! :lol:

Prunk1121

09-30-2005, 05:51 PM

Shazam

09-30-2005, 07:15 PM

Actually I thought he was learning the super breath power when Chloe was coming up behind him in the Fortress. A bright light exploded out of the column Clark was and a a wicked wind started up that began to freeze Chloe. MAybe Jor-el was teaching Clark the power and because Clark wasnt aware of Chloe being there until she called out for him because once he heard her the wind stopped.

Eh,Man?You-El?

09-30-2005, 07:25 PM

Didn't you guys see what happened when Clark started learning Kryptonian History in the FOS?
The new super power is: SUPER DANDRUFF !!

(poor, poor Chloe...)

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

09-30-2005, 07:25 PM

That's an interesting take on the ice front that filled the FOS, it being what he was learning when Chloe walked in. I like that idea.

Little Clarky

09-30-2005, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by BuZzArD 8012
Shouldn't we be worried about how Clark is going to get his regular powers back?

Not really, considering all the similiarities with Superman II he will probably get them back the same way as the movie.

FiveForFighting09

09-30-2005, 07:33 PM

i thought they same thing too and the spoliers for that episode were alittle off ............like the fight scence..i thought it was going to be cooler :(

I_love_smallville91

09-30-2005, 07:42 PM

Clark's new power is the ability to consistently ignore Jor El despite Jor El's consistent accuracy in predicting bad things happening when Clark disobeys.

And to care more about getting Lana to a hospital then the "grave consequences" that Jor-el promised him.

Lexgirl33

09-30-2005, 07:49 PM

i think clark just got stronger and faster. :\

Originally posted by Freezeia
They decided not to let Clark learn the backflip because it would have upset all those pathetic die hard superman fans:

"Omg you guys, he's already learned the backflip! He can't learn the backflip now, in canon he doesn't learn the backflip until AFTER he becomes superman. The backflip has NO place on Smallville and I am just so Super pissed off right now at Al & Miles that I just want to scream."

Yes that's right, I went there.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: lol soooo true!

Shazam

09-30-2005, 07:50 PM

Just a thought about Clark losing his abilities and find the octagonal key...Is this a refernce to Superman 2 movie when Clark loses his powers and than finds the crystal that Lois had - the only crystal that wasnt destroyed so he could use it to regain his powers. I take it the key will be able to do the same for Clark in Smallville when he returns to the Fortress

FavaBeans

09-30-2005, 08:42 PM

Thats an interesting theory... about how he regains his powers.

I think its going to be awhile before he gets them back first.... first he's got to learn sumthing!

Jephael

09-30-2005, 09:02 PM

Speaking of the Superman 2 motif, I can tell where they're going with Clark and Lana's relationship next episode, though not too many people will be happy about it.
I know my friend Matt was none too pleased when I told him about it.

Deia

09-30-2005, 09:39 PM

yeah, my hubby was all pumped about all the clana, while i wanted to scream :)

foolish Kryptonians, they don't realize that spending years without my Lana has given me plenty of practice with these strong fingers.... ha!

I literally spit soda out of my nose when i read this :)

his new power is EXPOSITION! but it will be off-camera exposition..... the fifty million things he'll have to explain to chloe to get her up to speed..... but he'll do it all really fast, like in the time period of a commercial break

donkor

10-01-2005, 01:18 AM

His new power is the ability to take ideas from the superman movies and earlier episodes and combine them into an "all new" episode.

LaraofKrypton

10-01-2005, 01:57 AM

The original spoilers said something about a backflip...maybe they moved that to a later episode since the preview commercials show him doing a kind of Spiderman-looking move in the barn...hmmmmm.....

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

10-01-2005, 08:57 AM

I have no problem with Clana, my problem is with them teasing Clark with Lana and then Lana becoming a B*&(*& and basically saying she will never trust him again and that stuff. As for his powers. I think that the next episode will be 3 months from now, that way you can say that Clark has had time to live without his powers and realize that it sucks, and for his relationship with Lana to actually mature some and for it not to seem like they have sex the day after she gets released from the hospital.
As for getting his powers back, I can't give my opinion without releasing some spoilers that peope may not have read from that page. But, if you notice, Clark was on an operating table in the trailer with Lana crying over him.....but that's all I have to say about that.

hbkid21

10-02-2005, 02:01 AM

He learned how to lie better...lol...Those lies he told Lex were probably the best lies Clark ever told in his life.

Lana_Lang #1

10-02-2005, 02:59 AM

Clark was faking them out he was pretending to lose his grip be really he was fine the whole time, then as soon as they turned their back he gave a mischievous grin and flew/propelled himself (I think) out of the vortex grabbing the girl and tossing her in there.

Faking out people is a maneuver from his human learning experience, something they would have never expected or known about. Maybe his new ability is super intelligence, if so then it's about time!

Ebert & Roeper

10-02-2005, 08:31 AM

You should all rewatch the scene in the FOS when he first enters the "tube of knowledge." Watch the symbols circling him - there are some figures mixed in there. Watch the figures. They are doing backflips, super backflips. This episode went way over budget - and I'm glad - hell it was number 1 in its demographics for the first time ever, so if that's what it takes...
Anyway, it looks like they planned to put in the backflip, but it went over budget, so that was out. Now I say he flew. When Clark flies, we never see it. Kal-El can fly, but Clark "wills" himself places, and flies without meaning to. Here we are purposly not shown what he does. Probably a clever incorporation of the desire to stay under budget and the chance to keep people guessing.

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

10-02-2005, 09:14 AM

He was clearly pulling himself with his arm, so he wasn't flying, he was propelling himself with his arm. He hasn't learned to fly, and he only flies when he is asleep, because that is the only time that he doesn't have control over his own body (exception like magic and other third variables noted). Clark has never stepped outside, full aware, and just started floating. He has dreamt about flying, and he has woken up in weird places that he believed he flew too, but in the Mansion scene he was fully aware of what he was doing, and it wasn't flying. He just propelled himself with his arm hard enough to free himself from the vortex.

MayaQT

10-02-2005, 09:42 AM

I was under the impression that he will learn a new ability which then enable him to regain all of his powers back... go read spoilers for a better description.

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

10-02-2005, 02:13 PM

In the spoilers he dies on the hospital table in episode 3, and Jor-El has to save him.

JerryKing

10-02-2005, 05:28 PM

He did... he learned the dark power of growing facial hair.

Yes, Welling actually wasn't freshly shaven in the opening.

ImADork

10-02-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by DarkChilde
He will learn about Mortality and Humility .

LOL!!!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

corkyfuzz

10-02-2005, 05:42 PM

^that's fine with me. ha

i was also disappointed in the lack of powers clark used in the episode. i was expecting a huge kryptonian battle, but basically all clark did was over power them...which i don't get how easily he did that either. The climax was kinda disappointing.

xrayvision

10-02-2005, 06:30 PM

Well we all know that he will be flying and using super breath before getting his final powers, telling the truth and being able to have a girlfriend for more than a week. The guy bends the truth better than he bends metal.

LuckyKrypto

10-02-2005, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
The guy bends the truth better than he bends metal.

That was a good one! :rotfl: :rotfl:
I actually choked on a piece of ice reading that~ :lol:

ImADork

10-02-2005, 08:51 PM

what i was really disapointed was...instead of him using the same old power we see every episode..super speed...he should of done the backflip.....

Admiral_N8

10-02-2005, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by corkyfuzz
^that's fine with me. ha

i was also disappointed in the lack of powers clark used in the episode. i was expecting a huge kryptonian battle, but basically all clark did was over power them...which i don't get how easily he did that either. The climax was kinda disappointing.

Clark would be immensely more powerful than any Kryptonian who JUST came under the yellow sun...because he has had his entire life to power up.

Ultron

10-03-2005, 04:51 AM

I agree he has super breath, not just ice breath. We've also seen precident in the movies for a superkiss. Yes ladies, we know you want one. :D

I think Lex is going to give Clark a good beating once before Clark gets his powers back. I can feel it!

Regarding a new super power, I think there should be a thread about the nature of Superman's powers. He's a member of an advanced species that, if I remember correctly, could fly and had some powers already, on Krypton. At least how it's been explained in the post-Crisis universe. You see in the Superman movies some things not really explained in the comics, such as Zod and others using limited telekinesis to levitate things. Clark's superkiss in S2 and S4. The ability to fly. In one comic Superman could feel someone taking a picture of him. There is X-Ray vision, which presumably the Kryptonians had. Possibly heat vision. Maybe we'll see microscopic vision this season.

Just kicking around some thoughts. My vote is for microscopic vision, which might have applications against Brainiac.

Jellie

10-03-2005, 04:57 AM

We need to see ice breath this season. We have seen him fly,use heat vision, superhearing,xray vision. This season has to be ice breath, I wanna see him freezing somebody.

Ultron

10-03-2005, 06:21 AM

Yeah I suppose microscopic vision might not be spectacular enough. I know the arrival of Clark's heat vision was an event!

MayaQT

10-03-2005, 07:19 AM

Maybe we'll see microscopic vision this season.
Would the time in "Bound" where Clark sees a diamond earring several stories below count as microscopic vision?

Shazam

10-03-2005, 08:34 AM

That's a good point MayaQT, it seems some powers have been hinted too, but Clark has never really said anything about them, possibly because he has never had to extensively use both micro orscopic or telescopic visions. But there have been instences in the show that have hinted to him be able to use them.

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

10-03-2005, 12:06 PM

That wouldn't be microscopic, if anything it would be more telescopic. Microscopic would mean that he focused in on the germs on the bottom of the elevator shaft. Also, we don't know exactly what floot they are on, so it might not have been as far as we perceived, though, it did appear like he zoomed to it.

nothingwithoutchloe

10-03-2005, 12:24 PM

Maybe he didn't learn a new power while at the FOS, instead his abilities got more powerful. I don't remember him speeding away and making things move around him except probably some papers. When he left the hospital room that Chloe was in he made her juice that was on the table move, maybe he can run faster than he use to be able to.

Also, I think in Bound it was telescopic vision and not microscopic vision. He also used telescopic vision in Slumber when he was looking for Lana, I think he zoomed in on the lighter that Sarah's uncle had in his hand.

chrismen

10-03-2005, 12:47 PM

Maybe those effects are just for us viewers and Clark doesn't really have them. I am sure if he did they would have mentioned it somehow.

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

10-03-2005, 03:20 PM

I don't think that the FOS would have made him more powerful, that just comes with age. As he gets older, even day to day, he gets stronger.

DARKRAGE

10-03-2005, 03:24 PM

well he did watch the original superman movie for free in the fos no pay per view, all power to him.

kryptoniansteel

10-03-2005, 10:46 PM

he didnt learn a new ablity cuz he didnt learn or because they wanna save some..he only has 2 major ones left..and that super breath and flying..and i dont think were gonna see him fly till maybe the very very last episode of the show series

Ultron

10-04-2005, 02:01 AM

Oh trust me, Superman has had tons of extra abilities since the beginning. How silly the show gets with them, remains to be seen. I just hope we don't see him vibrating through walls....

NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn

10-04-2005, 08:12 AM

NO...lol..I think that if they stick to any continuity it will be with the powers. I think that they will try and take liberties with those....or else face the wrath of the Superman II fiasco.

perinejo

10-04-2005, 09:34 AM

They won't be able to give him "ice breath" until they master the CG art of "cold breath". You know, the obvious mistake most shows make where you can't see the character's breath even in the iciest of conditions. I understand that CGing it is a pain, but they at LEAST could have used it for Chloe who was "freezing to death".

Liriel

10-04-2005, 10:25 AM

Well, actually after the mouth cools down there isn't any "cold breath." But I'll grant you that it's never used, even when it should be.

Shadow09

10-05-2005, 10:59 AM

He's got enough powers as is... he did just fine last season... but this is just one episode.. there is still 21 more to go... and of course when he goes back to ths FOS i am sure he will learn a new power