Sequels and Remakes

[axisoftime]

This is really 2 questions;
1)Are there any sequels/remakes of movies/tvshows that are actually better then the original?
2)Are there some movies/shows that shouldnt be remade or sequeled?

1)Back to the Future II was better then BTTF I
Star Trek II Wrath of Kahn was better then Star Trek I TMP
Harry Potter Prisoner of Azkaban was better then Sorcerers
Stone
Goldfinger was better then Dr.No

2)I just read that they are doing a sequel to Roadhouse-a film from the late 80s starring Patrick Swayze as the best bouncer in the world whos hired to clean up a wild bar.Swayze passed on the sequel lol.It was an ok film,certainly action filled-but a sequel?
Personally Ive never seen a good remake-from Planet of the Apes to the Time machine-the originals were vastly superior.

[VersesBatman]

Toy Story 2 was better than the first
Spiderman 2 was better than the first
X-Men 2 was better than the first
I second Wrath of Khan

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Movies that shouldn't be made:

Indiana Jones 4
Star Wars VII,VIII,IX
E.T. 2
Oliver Twist
Charmed The Movie

[VersesBatman]

Ditto. I'll add to that with:

The Ten commandments
Gone with the wind
Ben Hur

[TMLS' BROTHER]

[^^Never seen any of them the originals]

Star Trek 11
Ewok Adventures 3
South Park 2
2001 [Shouldn't be remade]

The Specials 2
Charlies Angels 3
Mr. Bean 2
Will & Grace The Movie

[Backward Galaxy]

Many Bond films were better than Dr. No.
Many Trek films were better than The Motion Picture.
I disagree that X-Men 2 was better.
I disagree that BTTF 2 was better.
Harry Potter and TPOA was better.

Some remakes you possibly haven't considered:
The Italian Job
Insomnia
Twelve Monkeys
The Ring
True Lies
The Birdcage
Three Men and a Baby
Ocean's Eleven
The Mummy
The Nutty Professor
Dr. Dolittle
Father of the Bride
War of the Worlds (or maybe you did consider this)
101 Dalmations
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Gone in 60 Seconds
Man on Fire

See... some good films in there... some better than the originals in the opinions of some.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Italian Job! No Way! The original was definative!

Shouldn't be made:
Fast and the furious 3
xXx 3
The Great Escape
Bullitt (sp?)

[Backward Galaxy]

Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Italian Job! No Way! The original was definative!

Shouldn't be made:
Fast and the furious 3
xXx 3

Not saying it was... but at least worth talkin' about.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Backward Galaxy
Not saying it was... but at least worth talkin' about.

K. Do you know that they are making another called "The Brazillian Job".

[axisoftime]

Id say X-Men was better then X2
Jerry Lewis Nutty Professor was better then Eddie Murphys
I havent seen War of the Worlds or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory though from reviews Ive read about Charlie it sounds like the original was better.OK-take out the superior FX and they say Wilders Wonka was much better then Depps.

[VersesBatman]

I ddin't like the original Willy Wonka and this one looks more trueto the book.

[axisoftime]

What didnt u like about the original WIlly Wonka?The oompa-loompas could have done much better but overall Id call it a classic..

[Kal-L, The Original]

The Buffy tv show was better than the film. It's probably the only tv show I can think of like that.

Aliens is arguably better than Alien, T2 is arguably better than The Terminator, The Road Warrior is arguably better than Mad Max, Dawn of the Dead is arguably better than NOTLD, Bride of Frankenstein is arguably better than Frankenstein, and HellraiserII: Hellbound is arguably better than Hellraiser.

I'm not generally a fan of remakes, but NOTLD '90 was in some ways better than the original. Too many of them end up like Burton's POTA, though, which was awful.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

POTA?

[axisoftime]

Yeh Id have to agree T2 was better then Terminator and Burtons 'Planet of the Apes' was bad-and when compared to the original Apes-truly awful.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Thanks. Then I agree with everything except Hellraiser and NOTLD coz I haven't seen them.

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by axisoftime
What didnt u like about the original WIlly Wonka?The oompa-loompas could have done much better but overall Id call it a classic..
The songs and the trippy tunnel. I also didn't like how the father was missing and I didn't like the ending.

[axisoftime]

Oh I liked the songs and the trippy tunnel lol!However I agree about the father and the ending could have been better.
Another sequel that probably shouldnt have been done 'Return to OZ'-nothing like the original-kinda dark and errie actually.
Interesting in its own right-but strange indeed.

[VersesBatman]

I hated Return to Oz. It was disturbing.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Star Trek TNG was better than Star Trek.
Stargate Atlantis is better then SG-1 IMO.

[VersesBatman]

The first Halloween was good the others sucked.

[Summers]

I thought Aliens was better than Alien.

[VersesBatman]

They should never remake The Breakfast Club, Ferris Buellars day off or Pretty in Pink.

[Summers]

I would rather see the director's cut of the Breakfast Club. The studio edited so much out, and John Hughes has the unedited version :D.

[VersesBatman]

That would be cool.

Others have tried to copy his movies, but they just didn't hold a candle to the originals.

[Summers]

There are some great 90s teen flicks I love, but recently I seen a copy of characters from his movies to the recent teen movies. There is no originality any more.

[smallvillefanforlife]

yeah i know its like everything is the same they are really trying to cop[y some of the old scary movies and it just looks stupid ok example freddy vs. jason to me was bad cause they were trying to make it like the old jason and freddy movies but it didnt work

[RedPhoenix23]

Charmed The Movie! I'm sure that is one of the signs of the coming apocalypse!

*cringes at the very thought*

[smallvillefanforlife]

i didnt even know they were making a charmed movie i dont know i think there are other shows that deserve a movie or sequal

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by Summers
There are some great 90s teen flicks I love, but recently I seen a copy of characters from his movies to the recent teen movies. There is no originality any more.
LIke "New York minute".

[Summers]

Exactly. A total Ferris Buller knock-off.

[smallvillefanforlife]

you think new york minute was a ferris buller knock off oh yeah ok i see cause werent they skiping school in new york minute

[RedPhoenix23]

Ferris Bueller's Day Off Off totally rocked! I used to have the biggest crush on Matthew Broderick! I think its the only movie from "the teen movie John Hughes era" that actually liked. Besides Heathers and Say Anything-but those weren't made by John Hughes.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by smallvillefanforlife
i didnt even know they were making a charmed movie i dont know i think there are other shows that deserve a movie or sequal

They aren't. It was a j/k

[smallvillefanforlife]

oh i thought you were serious but it does sound like something they would do

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Yeah, I hope they don't read this and the nget the idea for it.

[RedPhoenix23]

Does anyone even watch Charmed anymore?

I liked the Planet of the Apes remake all the way up to the ending-what was up with that?!! Didn't Tim Burton direct that one? I hope he did a better job with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory-even though I've heard he messed with the ending in that movie as well-haven't heard if it was a bad thing or a good thing though.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Not me I hate Charmed my dad likes it but he never watchs it.

[zhuuka]

Charmed sort of fell off the map for me after Season five. It lost it's touch really. Julian McHahon....that's what kept me at the screen. ;)

As for this summer. It seems to be the remakes instead of the Summer of Sequels.

Lesse:
War of the Worlds- OK
Herbie: Fully Loaded - Flop
Longest Yard- OK
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory- Looks too wierd.

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Does anyone even watch Charmed anymore?

I liked the Planet of the Apes remake all the way up to the ending-what was up with that?!! Didn't Tim Burton direct that one? I hope he did a better job with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory-even though I've heard he messed with the ending in that movie as well-haven't heard if it was a bad thing or a good thing though.
I heard opposite. I heard he stayed faithful to the book Charlie and the chocolate factory.

Planet of the apes sucked big time. We had to keep going back to the ending to get what happend.

[RedPhoenix23]

I saw a behind the scenes where Tim Burton flat out says he changed the ending because the book and the old movie both ended to abruptly for his taste. He didn't say what he did but the program showed a real quick flash where Johnny Dep's character Willy Wonka looks like he is suspose to be younger.

[VersesBatman]

I think he basically took the same ending and fleshed out Willy Wonka's character. Gave him a backstory.

[RedPhoenix23]

So it still ends with them floating around over the city in the crazy sideways/flying elevator?

[VersesBatman]

Oh yes. I've seen the trailers. It's a glass elevator and what's more I squealed when I saw them crashing into Charlies house. That's what happendd in the book.

[RedPhoenix23]

LOL! They crash! Thats too funny. Oh wait, I hope the other bed-ridden grandparents didn't get smooshed!

[VersesBatman]

No. :lol: But they freak out. My favorite line from the book is this:

Grandma Josephine: Is there anything to eat there, because I'm starving?

Charlie *laughing*: Is there anything to eat? Oh you just wait and see!

[axisoftime]

Id rather see any of the 5 original 'Planet of the Apes' then the Burton remake,and has anyone here even seen all 5 original Apes movies lol.Actually the 2nd one was pretty good-'Beneath the Planet of the Apes'-then 'Escape From'-then 'Conquest of' then 'Battle For'-each got progressively worse lol.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
No. :lol: But they freak out. My favorite line from the book is this:

Grandma Josephine: Is there anything to eat there, because I'm starving?

Charlie *laughing*: Is there anything to eat? Oh you just wait and see!

Note to self: Go to library and check out Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.:D

[VersesBatman]

But were they as bad as Tim Burton's version?

I just hated the preachiness of the remake and the humans talked. That defeated the whole gist of POTA.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by axisoftime
Id rather see any of the 5 original 'Planet of the Apes' then the Burton remake,and has anyone here even seen all 5 original Apes movies lol.Actually the 2nd one was pretty good-'Beneath the Planet of the Apes'-then 'Escape From'-then 'Conquest of' then 'Battle For'-each got progressively worse lol.

I know I have seen them because my dad used to watch them all the freakin' time when I was little-but I couldn't tell you anything about them. Except "Damn Dirty Apes!!!", doesn't someone scream that?, The Statue Of Liberty'shead is chillin in some sand at the end of the first one? maybe?. and one of the movies has 2 of the apes in modren times, well 70's. And that's it!

[axisoftime]

No I say they were all better then Burtons POTA.Yes having everyone talk was just...a bad idea.Also-Whats his name was no Charlton Heston!I didnt know Verses-u were a fan of the 'Charlie' book-no wonder u didnt like Willy Wonka lol.Did they change that much?

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
But were they as bad as Tim Burton's version?

I just hated the preachiness of the remake and the humans talked. That defeated the whole gist of POTA.

I just hated the end where Earth is overrun with Apes. The Apes are driving around in police cars and wearing cop uniforms-stupid! Oh, and the statue of Abe Lincoln is replaced with a statue-in the same pose as Abe Lincoln-with a statue of the bad Ape, what was his name?

The whole point of the movie was that the Ape evolution happened on an alien world-not Earth. So how did Earth get overun and its culture and history morphed for the apes? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid!!!


Originally posted by axisoftime
No I say they were all better then Burtons POTA.Yes having everyone talk was just...a bad idea.Also-Whats his name was no Charlton Heston!I didnt know Verses-u were a fan of the 'Charlie' book-no wonder u didnt like Willy Wonka lol.Did they change that much?

I thought it was Charlton Heston but I wasn't positve! I didn't want to look like an idiot if i was wrong!

[VersesBatman]

I didn't like the changes. The Oompa Loompas were happy little workers that laughed and sang. They were downright cute! Not creepy and sour looking. The ones in the musical, looked depressed. My brothers, sister and I were shocked. The boat in the book was this big pink boat carved out of a giant hard candy. So I again screamed when I saw the pink boat in this one. I fact, I was delighted when I heard Willy Wonka say "hey Mike, don't lick the boat!" Just like in the book. The book had squirrles that cracked nuts for his candy(He said Oompa Loompas didn't do it as well). So I liked that they have squirrels. In the book he's not this warm grandfatherly figure. He's pretty weird and quite rude to the bratty kids and their parents. Here's a sample.

"Veruca darling don't pay attention to Mr. Wonka. He's lying to you."

"My dear old fish, go and soak your head."

"How dare you!"

"Oh do shut up."


Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
I just hated the end where Earth is overrun with Apes. The Apes are driving around in police cars and wearing cop uniforms-stupid! Oh, and the statue of Abe Lincoln is replaced with a statue-in the same pose as Abe Lincoln-with a statue of the bad Ape, what was his name?

The whole point of the movie was that the Ape evolution happened on an alien world-not Earth. So how did Earth get overun and its culture and history morphed for the apes? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid!!!



I thought it was Charlton Heston but I wasn't positve! I didn't want to look like an idiot if i was wrong!
Charltin Heston cameoed as the bad apes father.

Mark Wahlberg didn't do the part justice.

[axisoftime]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
I know I have seen them because my dad used to watch them all the freakin' time when I was little-but I couldn't tell you anything about them. Except "Damn Dirty Apes!!!", doesn't someone scream that?, The Statue Of Liberty'shead is chillin in some sand at the end of the first one? maybe?. and one of the movies has 2 of the apes in modren times, well 70's. And that's it!

Yeh in the 1st one when Charlton Heston is captured he says-"Get your filthy paws off me u damn dirty apes".And the statue of liberty is seen at the end,thus showing us its Earth.
The 3rd one-'Escape From the Planet of the Apes' has Cornlius,Zera and another ape landing on Earth in 1970!
Though the film is really not that bad-the premise that three apes from a primitive society(with absolutely no technical knowledge) can use a spaceship was pretty absurd.

[VersesBatman]

I thought the third was sad.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by VersesBatman


Mark Wahlberg didn't do the part justice.

Really? I thought he did alright. I didn't like the primitive blonde human girl he ran around with-she got on my nerves for some reason.

[VersesBatman]

I didn't like her either. Probably because she reminded me of this character in this bad B-Movie I saw.

[RedPhoenix23]

My male freinds tell me that I am crazy! But of course these are the same peeps who don't like Brad Pitt movies, so.....

[VersesBatman]

I know why she bugged me. She was whiny.

[SteveS]

Forbidden Planet (about 1956)

[Kal-L, The Original]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
I just hated the end where Earth is overrun with Apes. The Apes are driving around in police cars and wearing cop uniforms-stupid! Oh, and the statue of Abe Lincoln is replaced with a statue-in the same pose as Abe Lincoln-with a statue of the bad Ape, what was his name?

The whole point of the movie was that the Ape evolution happened on an alien world-not Earth. So how did Earth get overun and its culture and history morphed for the apes? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid!!!



I thought it was Charlton Heston but I wasn't positve! I didn't want to look like an idiot if i was wrong!

In the novel, they go to an alien world where they find that apes evolved a society roughly on a plane with what we have today, including limited space travel (that was what Rod Serling's original script for the original film called for, too, basically, but it was decided that that would cost too much money so they pared it down) after the fall of Humanity, and the trip each way took 70,000 years-- relativistic effects of close to lightspeed travel allowed the crew to survive-- and when they arrived back on Earth they were met by a gorilla in a military uniform. This was to show that there is a parallel evolution at work and that apes evolving after Man is just the natural order of things. But that doesn't mean that their history would be a preecise duplicate of ours in all ways. I think Burton was trying to say that the ship had went into an alternate dimension.

But that ending, like the rest of the film that went before it as far as I'm concerned, sucked.

[VersesBatman]

It was pretty much the execution that sucked.

[twentyonegunsalute]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
Toy Story 2 was better than the first
Spiderman 2 was better than the first
X-Men 2 was better than the first
I second Wrath of Khan


dude, Spiderman 2 sucked

[Kal-L, The Original]

Originally posted by twentyonegunsalute
dude, Spiderman 2 sucked

I found one!!! :rotfl:

I'm not going to give you a hard time about this, man, you like what you like, but I am wondering what it was you didn't like about Spiderman 2.

And I don't think X2 was better than X-Men. I think they were about equal.

[VersesBatman]

I just thought X-2 found it's footing and had a better plot and it had Nightcrawler.

Oh and whoever called me a dude, I'm a woman.

[Kal-L, The Original]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
I just thought X-2 found it's footing and had a better plot and it had Nightcrawler.

Oh and whoever called me a dude, I'm a woman.

I wasn't arguing with you, VB-- matter of fact, didn't even see that it was you he was talking to :lol: , sorry-- and I understand your point, but I just thought they were both about equal in their excellence. Even though I'm not a huge Wolverine fan and I hated that they changed the Wolverine-Kitty Pryde dynamic to Wolvie-Rogue.

[VersesBatman]

I didn't like that either. They kind of gave Jubilee's character to Rogue as well. Wolverine is my second favorite.

[axisoftime]

Thats pretty funny that the oompa-loompas in the book are grim and depressed.I can certainly see how a fan of the book would be bummed about that.Theres a Simpsons where Homer sees an oompa-loompa and hes smoking a cigarette looking depressed.
Then of course theres Superman III and IV-which were pretty bad.Id say III was better then IV-they powered Supes down some-but at least they didnt give him wierd new powers like in IV.
And with Superman Returns-theyre acting like they never existed lol.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by twentyonegunsalute
dude, Spiderman 2 sucked

I didn't dislike Spiderman 2. I just felt like the movie was a filler movie. The movie I wanted to see was Harry finally snapping and going after Peter. Guess I just have to wait.

[VersesBatman]

Disney should stop making sequel to their movies. Like Little Mermaid 2, Hunchback of Notradam 2, Tarzan 2, Mulan 2...

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
Disney should stop making sequel to their movies. Like Little Mermaid 2, Hunchback of Notradam 2, Tarzan 2, Mulan 2...

Just the new Disney doing its thing as much as I dislike it as well.

[SuperConartist]

This isn't going to be a criticism about anybody's taste. For all I care we can all think what we want about them. But what me and another fellow SV fan found that was funny about Spiderman 2 was that it could basically be "Smallville in 2 1/2 hrs"
if you know what I mean.

Since a good sum of you thought spiderman 2 sucked I'm not going to bother about warning about spoilers. So as most of us know Mary Jane finally finds about Peter Parker's secret and me and my buddy found that kind of funny in the way that the whole Smallville series is kind of riding on whether certain people like Lana find out about Clarks secret.

As for my opinion about sequels and remakes, it depends where you want to take them. I mean there were some really good sequels in the past. And Batman Begins is one VERY good remake IMHO. So, if any director wants to do a remake or a sequel, just make sure they do a good job rather than using the movie as a marketing device like Disney has sadly plunged into.

All I gotta say about Disney is Go PIXAR Go! :p

[VersesBatman]

I actually agree with you about Spiderman 2. I liked the parts with Doc Ock, but the Peter/MJ parts screamed Clana.

[Kal-L, The Original]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
I actually agree with you about Spiderman 2. I liked the parts with Doc Ock, but the Peter/MJ parts screamed Clana.

Really? I thought it was pretty much the way PP's relationships were in the comics before he married MJ. I just thought it showed that they had actually checked out the source material this time.

And MJ in the comics figured out PP's secret before he told her.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
Disney should stop making sequel to their movies. Like Little Mermaid 2, Hunchback of Notradam 2, Tarzan 2, Mulan 2...
There's a Hunchback of Notre Dame 2? DAMN YOU, DISNEY!!!

I don't mind sequels. But all the remakes are getting rather tiring.

Whoa, reread my post. I don't mind sequels to movies worth making sequels to or otherwise leave their door open-ended for the possibility of sequels. "The Matrix" is the only movie I can think of right now that falls in both categories and yet ultimately would have been much better if it had been left alone.

[axisoftime]

I must be one of the few people who didnt like the Matrix lol.Never saw the sequels but I heard they werent too good.
I liked Spiderman I better then II-totally agree it was best when Doc Ock was on.
Ive never seen a good remake of a film-but I thought the Brady Bunch movie was pretty good.And the 1st Addams Family wasnt bad-if u want to count remakes of tv shows made into movies.

[Kal-L, The Original]

Originally posted by axisoftime
I must be one of the few people who didnt like the Matrix lol.Never saw the sequels but I heard they werent too good.
I liked Spiderman I better then II-totally agree it was best when Doc Ock was on.
Ive never seen a good remake of a film-but I thought the Brady Bunch movie was pretty good.And the 1st Addams Family wasnt bad-if u want to count remakes of tv shows made into movies.

I liked Matrix all right, though I didn't see the need for any sequel and I haven't seen them yet.

And I thought the '78 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers was great, at least equal of the original, and Alien was better than It! The Terror from Beyond Space, although I do love the original _and_ it was an "unofficial" remake. The recent Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake was surprisingly good, as was The Ring, and even '04's Dawn of the Dead-- even though they shouldn't have called it that :lol: -- was fun to watch, though not as good as the original.

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by j03superbat
There's a Hunchback of Notre Dame 2? DAMN YOU, DISNEY!!!

I don't mind sequels. But all the remakes are getting rather tiring.

Whoa, reread my post. I don't mind sequels to movies worth making sequels to or otherwise leave their door open-ended for the possibility of sequels. "The Matrix" is the only movie I can think of right now that falls in both categories and yet ultimately would have been much better if it had been left alone.
I agree. Some movie must have sequels. Like trilogy movies or if the ending left it wide open for a sequel.

However just making a sequel just to cash in on a franchise is lame. Do we need Cheaper by the Dozen 2?

I also for got to mention Pocahantus 2 and Cinderella 2.

[smallvillerox05]

I don't think they should make a sequal to Titanic.

I liked Spider-man 2 better than the first and X2 better than the first, but they are close.

[VersesBatman]

What would a sequel to Titanic be like?

[The Satyr Icon]

I'd like a sequel to "Passions of the Christ", "Million Dollar Baby", and "JFK".

The Satyr Icon

[smallvillerox05]

What would a sequel to Titanic be like?
The lifeboat sinks. It's only a matter of time.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
However just making a sequel just to cash in on a franchise is lame. Do we need Cheaper by the Dozen 2?

I also for got to mention Pocahantus 2 and Cinderella 2.
Pocahauntus 2... I can understand. She goes to Europe with her boyfriend and the raccoon and hummingbird get into all sorts of trouble there - it makes light sense. I would never willingly see it, but it's not a 100% out-of-the-blue plot. But Cinderella 2? Did she lose her other slipper?

And when I heard about CbtD2, I thought it was a joke.

[VersesBatman]

So did I, but they're making it and Tom is going to be in it again.

[axisoftime]

It will probably do half the box office of the original.Hilary Duff is in it again too.I think its the only real successfull movie shes done.

And now comes the 'Dukes of Hazzard'!This may do well-its got fast cars and Jessica Simpson in daisy dukes and a bikini lol.
This follows 'Bewitched' which got so-so ratings.Next up-yep-u guessed it-'I Dream of Jeannie'-scheduled to be released next year.Whats next-'Different Strokes'?

[VersesBatman]

They haven't done Green Acres yet...

I think CBtD 2 won't do as well as the first one. The plot looks lame.

[SheBangs]

What exactly is the plot?

[axisoftime]

Green Acres was a great show lol.They already did kinda remake it-if u ever see 'Funny Farm' with Chevy Chase.Its pretty similar.

I dont blame TW for doing the 'Cheaper' sequel.Money talks lol.Wonder if he'll get better roles once SV is off the air?

[VersesBatman]

Originally posted by SheBangs
What exactly is the plot?
The Baker family compete against a family with eight kids. The parents will be played by Carmen Elecktra and Eugene Levy.


Originally posted by axisoftime
Green Acres was a great show lol.They already did kinda remake it-if u ever see 'Funny Farm' with Chevy Chase.Its pretty similar.

I dont blame TW for doing the 'Cheaper' sequel.Money talks lol.Wonder if he'll get better roles once SV is off the air?
So was Honeymooners and look what kind of movie they made with it.

[SheBangs]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
The Baker family compete against a family with eight kids. The parents will be played by Carmen Elecktra and Eugene Levy.


What the......

Though I really didnt like the first one. At least it had a better plot than this one. The plot sounds as if it was wirtten by a drunk. I predict it is going to bomb in box offices.

[VersesBatman]

I do too. It sounds too stupid.

[axisoftime]

Sounds like an old 'Brady Bunch' episode.

I forgot about the 'Honeymooners'-yeh that got terrible ratings.Most of the shows made into movies were pretty bad.
I guess u could say the best would be the 'Batman' movie-if u want to say it was a remake of the 60's 'Batman'.

[VersesBatman]

It wasn't. It had nothing to do with that series or the other movies. It was Batman as it was intended to be.

[axisoftime]

I was referring to the Michael Keaton 'Batman' not the current 'Batman Begins'.The original Batman movie was alot closer to the 60's series-I believe.

[VersesBatman]

Oh, yeah it was. It was pretty campy. So were Schumauchers.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
The Baker family compete against a family with eight kids. The parents will be played by Carmen Electra and Eugene Levy.
Whoa, hey, it might not be that bad then - she's hot!

Wait, yeah, it probably will be bad, but still.

[VersesBatman]

:lol:

We're supposed to belive she gave birth to eight children and is married to Eugene Levy.

[axisoftime]

Well why not?Were supposed to believe Jessica Alba is a scientist in FF lol.Maybe she adopted some of em-or is divorced and married someone with 8 kids lol.(Brady Bunch again)

[VersesBatman]

FF is a comic book. It's make-believe. There's a difference, we watched it knwoing that such a thing isn't possible in real life.

She may have adopted them, but i doubt they'll have that happen.

[axisoftime]

I see your point but I wasnt saying that a cute young woman couldnt be a scientist.Remember the tagline for the first Superman movie-'Youll believe a man can fly'.When I watch Superman or X-Men-I like to think its possible-that it could happen.

[VersesBatman]

But CBtD isn't that kind of movie. It's not sofisticated enough.

[axisoftime]

I see what youre saying-I tried watching CBtD but lost interest quickly lol-I actually liked KK's movie much better-cant remember the name of it right now-but it was funny.

You know U could say that 'Batman Begins' is a remake of a remake-being that the Keaton movie was a remake of the 60s show.I think the best way I heard it put is that Batman Begins is the Dark Knight whereas Batman/Keaton is the caped crusader.

[Backward Galaxy]

Originally posted by axisoftime
I see what youre saying-I tried watching CBtD but lost interest quickly lol-I actually liked KK's movie much better-cant remember the name of it right now-but it was funny.

You know U could say that 'Batman Begins' is a remake of a remake-being that the Keaton movie was a remake of the 60s show.I think the best way I heard it put is that Batman Begins is the Dark Knight whereas Batman/Keaton is the caped crusader.

That's kinda weird, though. I actually think that should be the other way around. Bale's Batman was definitely more on a Crusade.

[VersesBatman]

I think so too.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by VersesBatman
:lol:

We're supposed to belive she gave birth to eight children and is married to Eugene Levy.
Hey, if Eugene Levy's character is rich, I can believe it. If not, then I hope I can be that lucky.

[VersesBatman]

Yeah look at Bill Gates.

[LexPlex]

i don't know whether i want remakes or don't want remakes of these films below becuase i love the originals but, i'd be interested in seeing remakes:

Tom Thumb (1958)
Flight of The Navigator
Hans Christian Anderson
Short Circuit

They are making:

Bean 2
Toy Story 3
Police Academy 8
Die Hard 4
Indiana Jones 4

They should've left Home Alone...well Alone after number 2
Cruel intentions had crap sequels and so did Dusk till Dawn

Seeyah

LexPlex

[axisoftime]

I liked 'Cruel Intentions 2'-kinda.And 'Short Circuit'.Not sure how good Indiana-Die hard will be-probably not half as good as the originals
However i must say the worst remake I ever saw-Lost in Space!
I really dont think the people who made it ever bothered to watch any of the original show!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

It's milking the money train. Plain and simple.

[ImzadiJedi]

It 'seems' that most of the tv shows turned into major motion pictures don't turn out well.

[VersesBatman]

The only ones that were any good were the Addams Family ones.

[axisoftime]

Id say the best tv show made into a movie would be Star Trek.
Addams Family was a good 1-cant remember if i ever saw the 2nd 1.The Brady Bunch movie was good-at least they kept the characters the same-and just moved them into the 90's.
The Beverly hillbillies was ok.
The 1st Flintstones wasnt bad.

[VersesBatman]

Except for the odd numbered ones.

[axisoftime]

That is the general concensus-however I thought ST III 'The Search For Spock'-was good.And ST V 'The Final Frontier'-is just goofy and campy enuff to be fun to watch.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Some sequels actually work, but that is very rare and it's very rare that Hollywood just doesn't push them out the gate. They would rather cash in on material that they can reuse over and over again as opposed to coming up with something original.

[axisoftime]

True,it would be interesting to see how many successfull films HAVENT had a sequel.I suppose the most sequeled film would have to be James Bond.Very rare when a film series is still good after 2-3 films.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Take VAN HELSING, Universal had already planned a sequel and a TV show, TRANSLYVANIA, which was pulled due to the fact that Universal believed that it didn't justice at the box office.

It would have also halted production on the current remake of CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON starring Bill Paxton.

[The_Duchess]

Someone said not to remake Oliver Twist. Well, they have :(

Another that can never be remade is Breakfast at Tiffany's....

No Jennifer Love Hewitt....back off...you do not look like Audrey Hepburn!

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Depends on who is willing to buy the property.

Dawn of the Dead 2004 happened strictly because Romero didn't own the rights and they were sold to another copy to produce the remake. Same goes for the upcoming Day of the Dead remake.

I agree, no one should touch Breakfast at Tiffany's. JLH is no Audrey Hepburn.

[VersesBatman]

Any movies with James Dean or Marilyn Monroe.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I don't think they will, but I have been surprised numerous times before.

[axisoftime]

Probably the worst sequel this year comes out tomorrow-'Deuce Bigalow-European Gigolo'.On Rotten Tomatoes it has an 8 rating-out of 100-which is 1 of the lowest ive seen,Even Dukes got a 17 lol.I think the only worse ive seen are 'From Justin to Kelly' and 'Gigli' and 'Battlefield Earth'.Of course not all the reviews are in yet-it could still go down lol.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I was surprised they even announced a DEUCE sequel, yet, we have one.

[VersesBatman]

My newspaper critic gave Deuce one star. Only because he's not allowed to give it a Turkey.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Makes sense. A sequel that didn't need to be made, got made.

[VersesBatman]

I saw a poster for that movie and it grossed me out.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

I've ignored it myself except for sitting through the making of Comedy Central.

[VersesBatman]

I couldn't help but see it. It was in the latest issue of Rolling Stone.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Geez, that had to be a nightmare in its own right.

[VersesBatman]

It was. I quickly turned the page. Yuck.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

The only remake I'm looking forward to isn't even related to film, but rather TV: KOLCHAK THE NIGHT STALKER starring Stuart Townsend and redeveloped by Frank Spotnitz of X-FILES fame.

[axisoftime]

Cant believe Duece bigalow made almost 10 million lol.Will there be a 3rd?Some remakes i saw that are in the works-Westworld-Posiedin Adventure.And a sequel to Garfield-which I thought hadnt done well in the 1st place.

[LexLuthorMetropolis]

Amazing what people will see.

I haven't seen it and don't intend to. I'd much rather enjoy watching another Mummy sequel, even though The Mummy Returns was pretty much the same thing as the Mummy. But you have to give it credit for putting in such a likable little kid to play the O'Connell's son.