Why Isabelle disappeared

[Hyde]

Isabelle wanted to kill all of Gertrude's ancestors ... She killed Genevieve with the stone and Jason was probably killed by a meteor.

Isabelle is responsible for the meteor shower, so she indirectly killed Jason and therefore accomplished her mission and had to vanish ...

What do you think? Some strange time phenomenon? :D

[ajfinn]

Time phenomenon? Well, I'd say. But I don't think tptb had that in mind. If Jason died (which I'm sure he did) then he did so AFTER Isobel left . . . So, as many circles as we go in, if Isobel's only purpose was to kill off the Teagues, then it doesn't make sense.

BUT if Isobel wasn't aware that by using the stone to kill GT, it would release the spell she used to possess Lana's body, and therefore expel her, then that's the only clear scinerio. And, wasn't Lex the only person to say anything about Isobel's intentions anyway? Perhaps he was just messing with Lana to get her away from Jason, or had other motives by saying that. Who knows? Lex is the Jedi Master of BS.

I sure hope tptb make some reference to all this somewhere in season 5. It's a big "hanging question mark" as Clark so wisely once said. :)

[Hyde]

Well, she - in a way - was responsible for his death.

[Grand_Sophy]

If Genevieve was somehow a reincarnation of the original who had Isobel killed, her death may have been sufficient revenge and satisfied the conditions of Isobel's curse.

[ajfinn]

Originally posted by Grand_Sophy
If Genevieve was somehow a reincarnation of the original who had Isobel killed, her death may have been sufficient revenge and satisfied the conditions of Isobel's curse.

I agree with both of you :lol: Isobel is definitely responsible (as well as Clark) for Jason's death. But then again, so is Jason - the freak. Coming after the Kent's with a shotgun. If the meteror hadn't got him, he would've gotten a big JK butt kickin anyway.

[NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn]

I don't think that GT was a reincarnation of the one that betrayed Isobel, I think she was the original source. It was never really tackled, only hinted at, but, I think that she was a witch as well. I have posted before that I thought she was a witch, and that she was the real reason Lana went to Paris. Thus, she would be the only true link between Isobel and the real world, and when Isobel severed that link, she cut herself free of Lana and thus went back to the spirit realm.

[Daphne]

Isobel is definitely responsible (as well as Clark) for Jason's death. But then again, so is Jason - the freak. Coming after the Kent's with a shotgun. If the meteror hadn't got him, he would've gotten a big JK butt kickin anyway.

That makes me laugh!
So true!
Jason was being so foolish to think he could be a match for JK!
I love it!

[NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn]

everyone assumes that he was killed by the meteor, but, there are a couple problems with that. If you look at the angle the meteor struck the roof of the Kent house, it would have only passed through part of the second floor and not the 1st floor where Jason was. Second, if it happened to magically make a 90 degree turn and go straight down and land on Jason, then Jonathon and Martha would both have been killed along with Jason because they were both right beside him. Heck, the entire house would have been destroyed. I think that Jason has atleast one more episode, the premiere, in him before he is either killed or taken off to Bell Reeve or Prison.

[ajfinn]

Originally posted by NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn
everyone assumes that he was killed by the meteor, but, there are a couple problems with that. If you look at the angle the meteor struck the roof of the Kent house, it would have only passed through part of the second floor and not the 1st floor where Jason was. Second, if it happened to magically make a 90 degree turn and go straight down and land on Jason, then Jonathon and Martha would both have been killed along with Jason because they were both right beside him. Heck, the entire house would have been destroyed. I think that Jason has atleast one more episode, the premiere, in him before he is either killed or taken off to Bell Reeve or Prison.

Not to discredit your logic, because you're 100% right, but when has logic ever been considered by the powers that be? In my opinion: Jason is 100% dead, and JK & MK have bumps on their heads--which will mysteriously disappear by ep 2, if not sooner. And the damage to the house, yeah, Clark will have that patched in a Krypto-second as soon as his returns from the FOS.

Man, I LOVE this show!!!! :D

[Occam]

How was Isobel responsible for the meteor shower?

As for Jason, it's perfectly plausible and logical that a falling piece of debris killed him or something; it's doesn't necessarily have to be a direct hit from a meteorite.

[Hyde]

Blood on the air crystal caused the Meteor shower.

[ajfinn]

Was it the air stone? I thought the stone that had Lana's tatoo symbol was the air stone. And that was the stone Clark stole from Lex in the end.

[DarkJustice]

I think Jason is still alive, and I think the writers made it so that Isobelle left lana when she did because to the rest of the audience Jason supposedly died in the episode before that one. But I also believe that GT was a witch and had lived since the burning at the stake of Isobelle so they could say that she was the only one isobelle ever had to kill, and everyone else had the wrong information. How they would find that out...I have no idea hehe.

[Grand_Sophy]

Originally posted by ajfinn
Was it the air stone? I thought the stone that had Lana's tatoo symbol was the air stone. And that was the stone Clark stole from Lex in the end.

No, Lana's tattoo symbol was water.

[ajfinn]

Originally posted by Grand_Sophy
No, Lana's tattoo symbol was water.

Ahhh.... thanks :) So many stones, so little clarity :D

[NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn]

blood didn't cause the shower, Jor-El clearly stated that the shower was coming no matter what, thanks to clark not getting the stones sooner. The blood on the stone cause the "unspeakable evil" to be awakened and come to Earth to destroy it.

ajfinn-
You are 100% correct also. I know they will just say he is dead, just like when Chloe died and they said she escaped at the last 1/1000 of a second..lol.

Occam-
It is not plausible that the meteor broke apart and a segment landed on Jason. Think about it, if it lasted that far into the atmosphere and was still that big, when it hit the house, you are saying that the house, the Kent family house that has been there for generations, managed to break this meteor that has been traveling thousands of miles and into the Earth's atmosphere, and that this little peice of debris managed to make some "magical" turn directly onto Jason, who just so happens to be standing right next to Martha? Plausible? I think plausibility left Kansas for the weekend in that scenerio.

[Eh,Man?You-El?]

Lex is Isobel
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/s...;threadid=36360

[RedKgentleman]

I bet Krypto the dog will save the Kents somehow from the fallen debris. He will protect them or something.

[NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn]

I could almost by that, but, Jason has a shotgun, if he say Krypto he would shoot him, and since Krypto (Shelby) doesn't have his powers anymore, I think it might kill him.

[DarkJustice]

dunno if he still has his shotgun, after the meteor fell anythings possible, the shotgun could have been through away and Jason trapped under some debris. But Johnathan Kent wouldnt just leave him there so hed have to go and try to save him opening himself up to more fighting with the injured (if still alive) Jason.

[NeXtToLaStKrYpToNiAn]

the debris would work, but it would have to be a targeted debris that missed Martha. Knowing Jonathon, he would help Jason, but since he isn't going to make it to the second ep. atleast, it would probably be in vain, cause he will most likely be dead when Jonathon helps him.

[JerryKing]

"Officially" - she did have her vengeance, ergo - her soul could finally rest...

Really - the producers obviously heard how annoyed the audiences were with the imbecilic "witches arc", and they ordered it to be quickly and permanetly removed from the series by any means. :)

[Lana_Lang #1]

Lana_Lang #1's view and explaination:

Lana's tattoo symbol on her back means both "Water" and "Transference".

The one that Clark stole from Lex plane in "Crusade" was the fire stone.

The one that Clark stole from Lex's safe was the water stone.

The one Lana had since China was the air stone.

Now to make sense of the Genevieve - Lana/Getrude - Isobel thing:

Gertrude was Jason and Genevieve's ancestor who actually got Lana's witchy ancestor Margaret Isobel Thoreux burned at the stake for praticing the dark art of witchcraft.

Before Isobel left this world she placed two points from which she could re-enter when her descendant/Lana the "Chosen One" made contact with it.

One was her own tomb which "Transfered" the tattoo/marking of Isobel onto Lana when she touched it.

The second, of course, was her spellbook which she marked by one of the most powerful bonds in the world, blood.

Isobel's vow was to be reborn and seek revengence upon the descendents of the one who burned her at the stake.

In their first meeting I believe that since Isobel could tap into Lana's memories and knowledge, she did not know of Gertrude's relation to young Jason because Lana didn't know either.

Unfortunately for poor Jason by the time that he was hung and tortured with Lex in China, Lana knew and so did Isobel. That's why she left him there to die, Also probably because he doesn't really have any magic power in his blood, is why he was hard to detect.

The third way Isobel appeared other than the book was, of course, when she appeared in China when Lana was being electrocuted.

The reason for this is that no matter what spirit you are you still need a vessel, a body to share with the person's originally spirit. The only spirit Isobel could enter was Lana. If Lana got killed Isobel would have nowhere to go and never complete her quest.

So therefore it was important for Isobel's spirit to protect Lana and keep her alive.

Meanwhile Gertrude stuck out like a sore thumb AND looked exactly like Gertrude. So when Lana/Isobel killed Genevieve, Isobel finally completed her vow and so her spirit was at peace.

Therefore her spirit left Lana's body, hence the tattoo removal.