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Sham1983
05-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Ok, I've been thinking about the spaceship that lands at the end, and have been reading some of the other theories on here.

Here is a new theory not yet discussed:

Let's first present the facts that we know about the current situation in Smallville:


Clark, apparently the last Kryptonian, was meant to unite the stones together
He failed to unite the stones together
Jor-El told him that there was going to be "danger" or something along those lines
Apprently, whatever is coming has the power to burn even Clark
We deduce that whatever is on its way, is coming because Clark has failed
We know Clark has failed, because one of the stones has been tainted by the blood of a human
Lana is the human, who's actions resulted in the failure of Clark

Also...

There is a very low probability that one of the characters of the Superman comics is in the ship
We assume this, because the producers have never, in 4 seasons of smallville, been accurate to the comics


Now, one plausible theory I present, is that when Clark was sent to Earth, another ship was also sent with him (And the meteor rock).
I believe, that the second ship (that landed next to Lana) has been in orbit somewhere, with some of the original meteor rock.
This ship was waiting....

The event that triggered the ship to arrive on Earth was the failure of Clark to unite the stones.

Since Clark is one heck of a powerful dude, we assume that the only thing that could have prevented him from uniting the stones is his untimely demise.

The ship, realising that the stones have not been united (thus, Kal-El has been killed), heads towards Earth.

Was it a co-incidence that the ship landed next to Lana? As we know, Lana is the person who got blood on the stone - so from the Ship's "programming", it reasons that Lana is the one that must have destroyed Kal-El.

For someone to destroy Kal-El, its pretty safe to assume that they are more powerful than Kal-El.

So I believe, that the ship that arrived at Earth, contains nobody at all.

In fact, I think it contains a bomb. This bomb (which we know is able to destroy Kal-El) is intended for the person who is believed to have killed Kal-El (obviously, requiring a bomb, with such power that it can kill someone more powerful than Kal-El).

I think, that Clark - using the knowledge he gains from the FoS, will be able to determine the story behind this ship (along with his own history).

I believe that Season 5 Episode 1 will see him rushing back to Smallville in super speed, and hurling the ship towards the sun, where it shall blow up in a magnificent explosion.

What does everyone else think?

I know there are a few inconsistencies - such as how was Clark able to save the small child if the meteors contain Kryptonie?
I argue, that because he was travelling at super speed when he saved the child, he was only really exposed to the Kryptonite for a fraction of a second.

Anyway, feel free to tear this theory apart.....

Ebert & Roeper
05-29-2005, 12:30 PM
Sounds cool. For several reasons, though, it cannot happen.

You mentioned that Clark was not hurt by the rocks, but that doesn't mean that the rest of your theory doesn't work. The ship could still do everything you said, it just didn't come down w/ Kryptonite.

If it is a bomb, and Lana is practically sitting on it, why would it take a long time to blow?

Clark is going to have to watch the FOS be built out of the crystal, and then he must learn about it, or do whatever he has to do inside. Granted, though, he will want to get back to SV as fast as possible.

Even so, he would never make it back before the ship blew, because we saw a light on Lana's face before Clark even threw the crystal.

No, I think we can assume that something is indeed inside the ship, because it sounds like a door opening, and the way the light appears on Lana's face enforces this point. Well, maybe if she is assumed to have killed Kal-El, maybe there is nothing in the ship as you say, and it is there to imprison her for her crime.

Also, don't forget, if he threw the ship/bomb up to the sun, he would do so in front of Lana, and there would be no good old fashioned WB angst for S5 if she learns his secret in episode 1.

I still love you idea, and I hope the writers are half as creative as you.

BlindGuardian
05-29-2005, 05:25 PM
ebert - a cage perhaps... or a zone... the phantom zone? I'm sure there's alot they could play around with there - this doorway could be some kind of portal into it... If Shams idea about the ship thinkin lana killed clark is true... and Jor-el supposedly discovered the phantom zone... this could be some kind of retribution device? Although it doesnt tie in that a ship so dumb could be created by someone so obviously powerful and wise as jor-el \o

bobsuncorp
05-30-2005, 03:29 AM
It must be assumed that this meteor strike did not contain Kryptonite, mainly because it at no point made Clarke sick, but also there were no glowy green bits in the meteors (remember the pilot and also that nightmare ep this season which DID contain K-meteorites).

Also the general consensus seems to be that the ship is some kind of security measure or at least a result (or consequence) of the stones falling into the wrong hands. However we know that the stones have been on Earth for hundreds of years, and predate Jor-El. So whatever this ship is it must have been put there (wherever it was: phantom zone, mars orbit, whatever) a long time ago, not sent to Earth at the same time as clark.

Gaz
05-30-2005, 04:44 AM
Its a good theory, but I don't think its a bomb. A spaceship is used as a vessel to carry a person, and this is reinforced by the door opening, light filtering out and lana's look of shock. If it was a bomb, surely it would have made more sense to use a missile or some type of rocket or have the bomb already hidden/buried somewhere on earth, just like the stones?

I like the theory about the ship assuming Clark has been defeated by someone more powerful.

Gaz

Sham1983
05-30-2005, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by bobsuncorp
However we know that the stones have been on Earth for hundreds of years, and predate Jor-El. So whatever this ship is it must have been put there (wherever it was: phantom zone, mars orbit, whatever) a long time ago, not sent to Earth at the same time as clark.

Ah good point. But, Jor-El, knowing about the stones allready existing on Earth, could still have sent the ship with Clark.

Clark's task may have been to unite the stones that allready exist on Earth...

Hyde
05-30-2005, 05:41 AM
The ship came with the meteorites. It suddenly appeared.

MrsClarkKent
05-31-2005, 12:10 PM
Maybe instead of a bomb, it is Kal-El's replacement.

dijonaise
06-01-2005, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by bobsuncorp
It must be assumed that this meteor strike did not contain Kryptonite, mainly because it at no point made Clarke sick, but also there were no glowy green bits in the meteors (remember the pilot and also that nightmare ep this season which DID contain K-meteorites).

Also the general consensus seems to be that the ship is some kind of security measure or at least a result (or consequence) of the stones falling into the wrong hands. However we know that the stones have been on Earth for hundreds of years, and predate Jor-El. So whatever this ship is it must have been put there (wherever it was: phantom zone, mars orbit, whatever) a long time ago, not sent to Earth at the same time as clark.


EXACTLY

the theory i'm sticking with is that it is a "fail-safe" device that was set in place by ancient kryptonians (pre jor-el) in the case of the last son of krypton's failure. i think it will either be a bomb-type device (probably more like a evaporator beam thingy) OR.....( i wasn't considering it until just recently) it very well could be TPTB's version of the ERADICATOR. if you read up on the eradicator's history, it just started out as a small simple machine looking thing. it could be a twisted version of it.

-d

Crazy4Smallville
06-01-2005, 10:31 AM
Maybe... whatever is in the ship wasn't sent there because they think the last son has been destroyed, but to destroy him. Think about it. Clark has always has the choice to embrace or reject his destiny. He's always had the capability to be good or evil. Maybe, because the stone was stained with human blood, and had fell into human hands, it knew that it had been rejected by the last son of Krypton, who it was only meant for.

Imgaine the Kryptonians many years ago, knowing they were sending a Kryptonian to earth, and by the earths Sun, it would be a powerful being. But, what they couldn't have known is whether he would be good or evil.

Perhaps the ship is from the Phantom Zone, but it carries someone or something that is sent to defeat Kal-El, thinking he's rejected what they had for him, so he must be stopped from taking over and ruling the earth?

Is this not the very reason that Lex believes that Segeeth is the hero of the story, because he stands up to the all powerful Namaan? Remember, Clark has been rejected anything and everything that has to do with Jor-El and Krypton. The only reason he's good is because of how the Kents have raised him, but he could have been another Luthor. How dangerous would he have been as a Luthor?

I think what may be in the ship, was sent to stop what the Kryptonians would consider a very dangerous supervillian. Remember it would have the power to burn Clark.

Sham1983
06-01-2005, 04:06 PM
I can't imagine Jor-El being responsible for the death of his own son, and in turn, the extiction of kryptonians.

eddie11
06-01-2005, 07:55 PM
Did you guys notice that the ship had Supermans "S" on the top of it? Does that mean anything?

Ebert & Roeper
06-01-2005, 08:14 PM
I don't see the Superman S. this may not be the very best angle or w/e but I freeze framed it for every shot of it and I can't make out the S.
Here:

Little Clarky
06-01-2005, 09:42 PM
Another theory! I'm wanting to see next season's premiere just to see if anybody was right!

Nagash
06-01-2005, 10:19 PM
personally i think it'll be TPTB's angle on the Eradicator, since he's involved with the FOS in the comic's and he also makes kryptonians into pure kryptonians, meaning they can only live on krypton or they die. He'd be a guy more powerful than clark and someone who can stop him.

However, just for fun, i'd like to see it be Doomsday, then TPTB could live up to their promiss of a main character dying, yet bring him back to life :D If it was Doomsday, it'll be safe to say Lana is pretty much dead just from looking at him funny, then if smallville isn't already destroyed, he can finish off the job before clark even arrives to die... maybe not Doomsday then :D but i'd just like to see the take on how his character looks IRL.

Whatever happens in ep1, i seriously double clark will be in smallville during that episode, or he'll arrive just at the end of the episode for a further cliff hanger. ep1 & ep2 of most programs these days are usually linked together just to get you watching.

Ep1 will pretty much be some FOTW/Monster type smashing up the place wanting to know where kal-el is, then clark will turn up and we'll be all like "omg" then the show will be all like "find out next week" and we'll be all like "ffs"

dijonaise
06-02-2005, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Nagash
personally i think it'll be TPTB's angle on the Eradicator, since he's involved with the FOS in the comic's and he also makes kryptonians into pure kryptonians, meaning they can only live on krypton or they die. He'd be a guy more powerful than clark and someone who can stop him.


ditto. there r so many different angles they can use with this character, and we all know by now that any time they choose to introduce a known character, they put their own lil' "spin" on it.



Originally posted by Nagash

However, just for fun, i'd like to see it be Doomsday, then TPTB could live up to their promiss of a main character dying, yet bring him back to life :D If it was Doomsday, it'll be safe to say Lana is pretty much dead just from looking at him funny, then if smallville isn't already destroyed, he can finish off the job before clark even arrives to die... maybe not Doomsday then :D but i'd just like to see the take on how his character looks IRL.

Whatever happens in ep1, i seriously double clark will be in smallville during that episode, or he'll arrive just at the end of the episode for a further cliff hanger. ep1 & ep2 of most programs these days are usually linked together just to get you watching.

Ep1 will pretty much be some FOTW/Monster type smashing up the place wanting to know where kal-el is, then clark will turn up and we'll be all like "omg" then the show will be all like "find out next week" and we'll be all like "ffs"


it would, indeed, be kewl to see, but VERY unlikely. as opposed to the eradicator, this character's story is less...um..."open" for manipulation. i mean...the story was simple (far too simple in my opinion), he came up out of the ground, wreaked havock on everything in sight, destroyed the JLA, and killed superman - the end. (well...not really the end, but that's the origin of it.)

-d

Randarch
06-02-2005, 04:03 PM
Well, the bomb idea is very creative. But it just doesn't strike me as very "Smallville". More like a cop show. But it is a good thought.

Plus I think it's Cythonna, so I may be bias.
;)

But I DO think Clark will trap her back in the ship, and hurl it into the sun to imprison her forever. So I agree with the hurling into the sun part. :)

superdad
06-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by eddie11
Did you guys notice that the ship had Supermans "S" on the top of it? Does that mean anything?

I agree!
I have watched the overhead shot of the ship over and over again. I am convinced that some symbol is on top of the ship.

Perhaps the ship is actually the Phantom Zone and Lana is going to be trapped inside. She did somehow know the stone was met for Clark. Maybe she know something was going to hppen to her. Her goodbye to Clark earlier may have been foreshadowing.

Supergal
06-03-2005, 03:30 AM
These ideas are hard to follow when you haven't read the comics - who are these characters! I think its quite funny that you think its a bomb when they just got bombarded with meteor rocks that were there to kill everyone on earth - even SuperClark. So after everyones dead, why would they send another bomb? Also, the stones have been hanging around for years - long before Clark appeared. So they'll obviously of got into the wrong hands at some point. I dont see the blood matters, the important thing is that Clark put them together. Why was there a shot of lionel when they came together though?

Sham1983
06-03-2005, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Supergal
I think its quite funny that you think its a bomb when they just got bombarded with meteor rocks that were there to kill everyone on earth - even SuperClark. So after everyones dead, why would they send another bomb? Also, the stones have been hanging around for years - long before Clark appeared. So they'll obviously of got into the wrong hands at some point. I dont see the blood matters, the important thing is that Clark put them together. Why was there a shot of lionel when they came together though?

Obviously, a bomb would be a tad pointless if everyone on Earth is allready dead - but who told you that the meteorites were the the things that were going to kill everyone on Earth? Did you see some additional scene in the episode that I missed?

What I am saying is, the meteorites were a mere side effect of the arrival of the ship. The thing inside the ship is probably what has the potential to destroy human kind and Clark, not the meteorites.

If it were the meteorites that were meant to kill humankind, as you say, and everyone on Earth is dead - what possible reason could their be for sending a ship to Earth?

Aaargh, I can't wait until the next Episode!!!!!!!!!

DarkJustice
06-05-2005, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by eddie11
Did you guys notice that the ship had Supermans "S" on the top of it? Does that mean anything?

I can see it...all the blue dots kinda form the S symbol...but...its almost like looking at stucko and making images out of the bumps in the ceiling.

Nagash
06-05-2005, 01:56 PM
usually the "S" symbol on anything just means it's related to krypton somehow.

I might stick with thinking it's Doomsday for now, so so i can say "i told you so" on the off chance it's him. I mean, the Justice League cartoon totally changed the story of Doomsday around and was nothing like the proper story from the comics. He came crashing to earth in that cartoon, so suppose it can't hurt to do another change. I'd prefer Doomsday to be a sequel to the superman films thou, thats only cos i like the story from the comics.

I wouldn't be at all surprised thou if there is nothing at all in the ship though. Clark was sent in a babies ship to get to earth, why not have an adult ship for the return trip. Lana could get on it, look around and then shoot her off to where Kryton was for some reason or other, just to add suspence, maybe give lana super powers cos of the different sun there, then somehow clark goes as well and has no powers and they have a SuperLana episode so that she finally understands why clark was keeping secret.

I might have to stop watching if they do that thou :)

with the meteors coming to earth, i think that was merely to say that "the ship is from krypton" and nothing else. It's like, clarks ship crashed to earth with meteors, so does this one. i wouldn't be surprised if the excuse was "well we have killed off 99% of meteor freaks in Smallville... lets make some more".

Sham1983
06-05-2005, 03:14 PM
Imagine all the new meteor freaks that will crop up 20 years later - perhaps for a new series of Smallville in the year 2025!!!

xtrmntr
06-06-2005, 05:13 AM
I definately think it will be the Eradicator, since it is in fact the eradicator that contains all the knowledge of Krypton, when it was created by Kal-el's ancestor Kem-el.

It posseses Clark to build the FOS.

....but still, why is it in Smallville?

I bet by the start of the next season, we'll discover there's bugger all in the damn ship!

supercrusader
06-15-2005, 11:15 PM
well i dont know if its a bomb but i dont think the ship contains a person either
so i think you may have something here

fordfan25
06-18-2005, 09:10 PM
could not be doomsday IMO. he is FAR to powerfull for clark to even think about fighting in his current level of power. DD could fart and kill clark as he is now. lol. i have a feeling maby it will be like some have said. eather eradicator or braineiack. could be mighty mouse though :)

blbcruzin
06-20-2005, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Sham1983


We deduce that whatever is on its way, is coming because Clark has failed
We know Clark has failed, because one of the stones has been tainted by the blood of a human
Lana is the human, who's actions resulted in the failure of Clark


Is this true? Can anyone explain this to me? I thought that Clark failed because he found the stones too late; not because the stone was tainted by blood?? I'm confused, any info would be greatly appreciated.

SmalliesMatt
06-20-2005, 12:33 PM
OMG - just readin this makes me want the Premiere to be tomorrow or something - Sum1 needs to make a thread where all of us put our predictions for Episode 1 then whoever gets closest to the correct one gets a Noddy Badge!!!

DarkJustice
06-21-2005, 12:39 AM
Clark was too late in getting the stones cuz it was tainted by blood before he got it back. The other way would have been if a human had gotten ahold of all three and connected them themselves. I dont think there was any definite time he was supposed to retrieve the stones in. Just as long as he got them before the humans did. If there's human blood on the stone, i guess the humans got the stone before he did so it assumed he failed. Thats my interpitation.