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SVSpector
05-26-2005, 10:57 AM
We never even saw the Mummy or the water guardian in the show until Clark broke into Lex's safe. Did anyone ever come up with a theory about why they have Kryptonite in the guardians? If the stones were meant for Clark, why would they keep him away on Earth. Seems like it would be geared toward keeping Earthings away. Wouldn't most of this knowledge have been in the public library on Krypton?

Little Clarky
05-26-2005, 12:39 PM
I think the guardians were put there by humans to keep the Chosen One from trying to get them.

kido
05-26-2005, 12:47 PM
So ancient humans knew about kryptonite?

Little Clarky
05-26-2005, 12:55 PM
They knew about the stones, so why not...

pnagel
05-26-2005, 01:47 PM
I think they have mentioned in the show that other Kryptonians have been on Earth before throughout the history of mankind so it is possible that the guardians of the stones knew of the Kryptonians weakness to Kryptonite and that is why they guarded the air stone with it.

SVSpector
05-26-2005, 02:31 PM
Was there Kryptonite before Krypton exploded? Isn't kryptonite radioactive pieces of Krypton irradiated during the explosion? How could it have been known pre-explosion?

Crazy4Smallville
05-26-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by SVSpector
Was there Kryptonite before Krypton exploded? Isn't kryptonite radioactive pieces of Krypton irradiated during the explosion? How could it have been known pre-explosion?


That is a very, very good question about the origin of Kryptonite. How could the earlier visitors brought meteor rocks, when the planet hadn't blown up yet?

Also, just another thought here, but if Lex is really Alexander, then Alexander knows that Kryptonite is harmful to Clark (though he doesn't know its called Kryptonite) and he could have placed it there to protect the air stone from Clark. Lex doesn't know that Kryptonite is dangerous to Clark, only Alexander. So, if that was the reason why he put the stones in the vault, then that is more evidence that Lex isn't Lex, he's now Alexander.

Eh,Man?You-El?
05-26-2005, 03:14 PM
While continuity about Kryptonite is not particularly thorough on "Smallville" I do have a hypothesis about why earthbound kryptonite could still be as deadly to Clark as "exploded Planet" kryptonite.
Kryptonite effects don't seem to be radiation based - it causes pain to Clark but acts more like a "Genie" to humans - giving them powers when connected to them through some form of deep stress.
I think Kryptonite actually has a psychic effect on the people, releasing something in them that allows them to do whatever it was on their minds when the effect took hold. In the comics, people talk about a "Meta-gene" that lies dormant until triggered but in "Smallville" whatever the trigger might be, the effect seems to be VERY "Personalized".
The only connection between the Meteor Kryptonite and the green stones brought by the visitors from Krypton is the common origin on the planet itself.
So, if these green stones from Krypton ALL have a psychic component
Then, perhaps the deaths of billions of Kryptonians caused a "psychic trauma" for the stones that even communicated to the stones that were "Safe" on Earth.
And perhaps the pain that Clark feels from exposure to the stones is this anguish from the death-knell of Krypton.

(Then what about RED-K, you ask???

MAYBE...Red-K "felt" that awful anguish the same as the Green-K ...
BUT JUST DIDN'T CARE!!!!)

kido
05-26-2005, 03:20 PM
also, how did ancient humans get their hands on the stones or the kryptonite? both must have been brought from krypton by someone, and i doubt the humans were able to force them to hand them over.

werd
05-26-2005, 03:37 PM
You have to take Smallville with a grain of sand. It's not an elaborate story that they've been working on for years. They make **** up as they go. I mean hell there are times where clark holds kryptonite in his hands and throws a football around; and other times he's 100 feet from a small rock and he starts getting sick.

A lot of stuff on that show doesn't make sense.

The only way they could have gotten that kryptonite is if lets say Jor-el actually created it. He was a scientist, an advanced one.

Maybe Jor-el wanted to protect the humans from Kal-el in the event that Kal-el landed on the planet and got picked up by the luthors instead of the Kents. He would have turned out a different person.

OnyxAlexander
05-26-2005, 03:44 PM
only the chinese eye statue had kryptonite and that wasnt a gauradian of the stones. The stones were found in an egyptian statue, mayan stature and horse statue. There was no kryptonite around. Stupid.

kido
05-26-2005, 04:20 PM
trust me. i don't take anything too seriously. it just doesn't seem like ancient humans had that much to do with the stones or the guardians. rather, it seems like the stones were hidden by someone with clark's powers, but not his weakness. the "god" of the temple mentioned in "sacred" is the prime candidate.

DarkJustice
05-27-2005, 04:27 AM
it could be possible that on krypton the kryptonite didnt have any effect on the people living there. The red sun made it so that they were pretty much the same as humans on their home world so to them they could have just been jewelry. In Memoria i think when Clark sees the memory of Lara and Jor-El they deliberately show Jor-El's ring two or three times and even have a special sparkle as it passes by. The stone in the ring is a bright green rock looked a lot like Kryptonite. So it wouldnt be hard to believe the prvious kryptonians who came had kryptonite with them and possibly the humans found it and set it up to test anyone who would come looking for the stones. If the stones dont lite up then the person looking doesnt deserve the stones. If it lights up then they do. Or maybe not hehe.

WillTheBrave
05-27-2005, 10:08 PM
I'm a little confused on the storyline here. If Clark showed up a a 4 year old, then Krypton would have exploded roughly four years before that, correct?, Wasn't kryptotnite was created during the explosion, then how could that beast of a staue have green k eyes? When is relation to Krypton going boom did the stones come and where di the green k come from?

DarkJustice
05-28-2005, 03:02 AM
It's supposed to be that Kryptobnite came from the center of krypton's core when it exploded, and traveled across space being dragged along with Kal El's spaceship headed towards smallville. One thing I think the writers of the comics like to use is that not all of the kryptonite that was dragged to eart by Kal El's spaceship has landed on earth yet. Lots of it was pulled along, but as they travelled towards earth some trickled off and are still headed towards Earth.

I think the only plausable way they can even try to say they had green K before the planet exploded would be by saying they mined it from Krypton and used it as a power source, jewelry or whatever they want to say. But it would have had to have been taken from the ground on krypton then brought to Earth for whatever reason. Look to my post above for more on that heh.

Someone said in here that the effects of the green K could be from the anguish of all the people dying on krypton and the stones already on earth were charged from that, which kind of makes sense, but seems a little too much for me heh. Sounds like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe thats how kryptonite supposedly came about. And the other two paragraphs are just theories.

bobsuncorp
05-29-2005, 05:59 AM
Thats the best explanation yet for why there would be Kryptonite on Earth before Krypton exploded, because it was pretty. I never thought of this before but it makes so much sense. I know the original theory was that the problem with Krypton was that the planets core (or part of the planet anyway) was being changed into kryptonite by increase in temperature or radiation, and that is what made it so hard to live there, and that is why it was so unstable it blew up. However, if it were not in fact changed at all, if Kryptonite is always like that but on Krypton its effects were nonexistant (most likely due to the red sun, you don't get the strength on Earth without the vulnerability from K). We never hear about any Kryptonians dying before the planet blew up, so that could have been what killed them, not living on a planet of Kryptonite.

The first Kryptonians though, just thought it was pretty. Imagine how annoying it must have been to find out it was lethal.

MayaQT
05-29-2005, 10:45 AM
Okay, I don't know if anyone's considered this but my theory is that Lex retains some of his memories from Onyx. Specifically, he remembers Kryptonite weakens Clark. I'm sure he has a gut feeling that Clark is connected to all of this more than anyone (i.e. Lex and Chloe conversation in the caves in "Commencement"). Thus, he wants to keep him away which is why he has the statues with kryptonite stored with the stone.

Just my theory that Lex knows more than he's letting on...

DarkJustice
05-29-2005, 09:02 PM
That makes a lot of sense too. Damn I missed Onyx, I need to see that episode to see what happened to Lex when he split into two people.

superfrodo
05-29-2005, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by WillTheBrave
I'm a little confused on the storyline here. If Clark showed up a a 4 year old, then Krypton would have exploded roughly four years before that, correct?, Wasn't kryptotnite was created during the explosion, then how could that beast of a staue have green k eyes? When is relation to Krypton going boom did the stones come and where di the green k come from?
Actually, Clark arrived on Earth at age 2. ;)

And yes, Kryptonite was created during the explosion. The meteor rocks are irradiated fragments of the planet Krypton, which hold major traces of the element krypton.
Anyone ever think that there might be time travel involved?

- Tiff

DarkJustice
05-30-2005, 01:26 AM
Thats possible it happens in the comics a lot. Could be that clark went back in time to set up the stones for himself then sent a message to jor el and told him about it and that would explain it. But then it really wouldn't explain the kryptonite there to stop him, if he was going back in time to set it up to find for himself.

-ronald-
05-30-2005, 11:44 AM
Kryptonite DID get irradiated when Krypton exploded, but that's no reason to believe that they couldn't make it themselves. They were a scientifically advanced race - the question is WHY would someone make it and bring it to Earth?

One possible theory - some Zod type criminal fled to Earth, then was captured using Kryptonite. Somewhere along the lines, an Earthling discovered this AND the purpose of the stones, and decided to try and prevent them from ever being united by a Kryptonian by placing the Kryptonite there. Of course, this is one of those theories that, while possible, will never be on the show because TPTB seem to care less about thorough writing than we all do here. Shame.

ClarksNextGF
06-11-2005, 12:52 PM
Umm... just a thought...

Lex is a spoiled rich kid who has priceless artifacts from all over he world in his/Lionel's mansion. It stands to reason that he would empty a sacred Chinese temple of everything that looked remotely valuable - hence the masks are in his safe.

Also, he seems to be obsessed with the stones. There were many other things in the safe that were connected to the stones.

There is no reason to associate him having the masks in the safe with him knowing that Clark is "allergic" to meteor rocks.

Aloof
06-13-2005, 07:53 PM
It's like Lex knew Clark's secret! :o

MayaQT
06-14-2005, 04:02 PM
There is no reason to associate him having the masks in the safe with him knowing that Clark is "allergic" to meteor rocks.

Well, that is a plausible theory but... it's absolutely boring... I like my theory better, no offense ;)

Lex has an inkling/suspicion that Clark is "allergic" to meteor rocks because of past events and the events in Onyx...

DarkJustice
06-21-2005, 12:53 AM
And he was pretty sure clark was the one to ripp the door off the safe

ajax
06-21-2005, 11:32 AM
i thought the reason there was kryptonite in the chinese temple was to keep clark at a distance so he could see the map from the right POV, but this reason has never been mentioned in smallville only by the fans so we dont know if this is the true reason kryptonite is there .

if this were the reason it was there it makes no sense that there would be kryptonite in egypt or the underwater myan temple where the first 2 stones were found.

why would clark need to be kept away from them.

these stones were put there by kryptonians for kryptonians. so they wouldnt and shouldnt be any kryptonite there, kryptonite shouldnt of even been in exsistance at that point.

i also find it strange that TPTB havent even given us any explanation to such a big mystery. im am guessing that this will be yet another big unanswered question such as, what was the deal between lional and dr swann? and how did dr swann get the key?

shirkie
06-21-2005, 08:53 PM
I think the kryptonite in the statues was just a big old black smudge, just like the changed map. Doesn't make any sense at all since kryptonite traditionally is the product of radiation relased by the exploded planet Krypton. All these explanations are wayyyyyy too "out-there" to be serious contenders for a local explanation. Writers, you got some 'splainin' to do!!!
shirkie

Peter Gray
06-22-2005, 06:24 AM
kryptonite are only 12 years old..(when Clark arrived) the kryptonite was from Smallville and added later to make it more special.......

I hope they do another background story to Jo-el when he was on earth...