Superman suit suggested in Season Finale

[benthebeast]

Now this is just my own little theory but if you watch the scene where Martha leaves the house after Clark has spoken to Jor-El you will notice that martha explains 'I cant beleive i nearly forgot this' while holding a yellow cloth. Now at first this struck me as odd, why would Martha care about a yellow cloth?

Well my answer is she would care about it if it had come to earth with Clark. Superman history tells us that when Clark arrived on earth he came with 3 blankets red, yellow and blue which under a yellow sun had the invicibility traits that Clark had. These blankets were woven into supermans suit by Martha kent.

What do you think of my theory?

[Krypton]

I think you're talking jive. It's Clark's baby blanket. the suite isnt invincible, it's Clark's body the invincible, it has sort of an ora because of his molecular density that covers the suite and not the cape.

What Martha had was an old rag type of thing, a knitted blanket.

[benthebeast]

Just to completly blow you out, here is a direct quote from the superman comics:

'superman's costume is, by all accounts, absolutely indestructible. Fire cannot burn it, the strongest shears cannot cut it, and neither bullets nor lightning can make a mark on it. Not even the force of six atomic bombs exploding inside it can do harm' (Superman #78, 1952)

Also the blanket martha was holding was yellow and shiny not a mark and tear on it and not knitted doesnt look to me like a 16 yr old baby blanket.

[Resentment]

Superman #78 is no longer "cannon", any Superman comics before like 1985, "don't count" anymore in the comic community. Superman's costume currently can be destroyed just like my cool Wal-Mart clothes can.

[benthebeast]

But the WB dont follow the story religiously and chop and change bits from places, also in many other t.v renditions of superman the indestructable suit idea has been used so there are quite a few people who disagree with your 'dont count' idea.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by benthebeast
But the WB dont follow the story religiously and chop and change bits from places, also in many other t.v renditions of superman the indestructable suit idea has been used so there are quite a few people who disagree with your 'dont count' idea.

In Lois and Clark, Superman's suit was not indestructible. His body gives off an aura, that anything within a millimeter of his skin is like a second skin, but on Lois and Clark, his suit had to be repaired quite a few times

[benthebeast]

I did not state which t.v renditions but yes the aura from supermans body was also an idea from the comic books.

As i stated in the first post this is only a theory, it just seemed odd that focused on the blanket.

[hahnyc87]

they have been inconsistent throughot the shows, there have been plenty of episodes where clarks clothes were ruined in a blast, and werent there a few where they werent- i mean thats the whole concept behind his cape (supermans that is)> when someone is in danger he covers them with the cape because anything within a few millimeters of his body is indestructible

[blue7]

benthebeast:

I think that sounds cool!

[Zyyb]

Originally posted by hahnyc87
they have been inconsistent throughot the shows, there have been plenty of episodes where clarks clothes were ruined in a blast, and werent there a few where they werent- i mean thats the whole concept behind his cape (supermans that is)> when someone is in danger he covers them with the cape because anything within a few millimeters of his body is indestructible
You're thinking of Batman!


Direct Quote from "The Ultimate guide to the man of Steel" from DC (published 2002)

Aside from it's great symbolic value, there is nothing remarkable about Supermans costume. Seperated from it's wearer, it is neither bulletproof nor tear-resistant. It is not fire-retardant nor stain repelling. However, when worn by Superman, this blue, red and yellow cloth is like a suit of armour, rendered impentrable by the invulnerable aura (thats the correct way of spelling it btw!) that surrounds Superman's entire person!
Superman's invulnerable aura does not extend to his crimson cape, which must be mended frequently.

So there ya go!

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by Zyyb
You're thinking of Batman!


Direct Quote from "The Ultimate guide to the man of Steel" from DC (published 2002)

Aside from it's great symbolic value, there is nothing remarkable about Supermans costume. Seperated from it's wearer, it is neither bulletproof nor tear-resistant. It is not fire-retardant nor stain repelling. However, when worn by Superman, this blue, red and yellow cloth is like a suit of armour, rendered impentrable by the invulnerable aura (thats the correct way of spelling it btw!) that surrounds Superman's entire person!
Superman's invulnerable aura does not extend to his crimson cape, which must be mended frequently.

So there ya go!


I thought so. On Lois and Clark, Superman's suit was in the hidden panel in his(Clark's) apartment where he kept them, and his place was almost torched, and the suits were destroyed :)

[Steelegrave]

Originally posted by Zyyb
You're thinking of Batman!


Direct Quote from "The Ultimate guide to the man of Steel" from DC (published 2002)

Aside from it's great symbolic value, there is nothing remarkable about Supermans costume. Seperated from it's wearer, it is neither bulletproof nor tear-resistant. It is not fire-retardant nor stain repelling. However, when worn by Superman, this blue, red and yellow cloth is like a suit of armour, rendered impentrable by the invulnerable aura (thats the correct way of spelling it btw!) that surrounds Superman's entire person!
Superman's invulnerable aura does not extend to his crimson cape, which must be mended frequently.

So there ya go!

However, Clark's work clothes are not made invulnerable by his aura. So both theoeries are correct. The Kryptonian blankets made into the suit bond with Supes' aura, because they are of Kryptonian make. No clothes made on Earth have the same proporties.

[hahnyc87]

Originally posted by Zyyb
You're thinking of Batman!


Direct Quote from "The Ultimate guide to the man of Steel" from DC (published 2002)

Aside from it's great symbolic value, there is nothing remarkable about Supermans costume. Seperated from it's wearer, it is neither bulletproof nor tear-resistant. It is not fire-retardant nor stain repelling. However, when worn by Superman, this blue, red and yellow cloth is like a suit of armour, rendered impentrable by the invulnerable aura (thats the correct way of spelling it btw!) that surrounds Superman's entire person!
Superman's invulnerable aura does not extend to his crimson cape, which must be mended frequently.

So there ya go!

no, im not thinking of batman at all! i can specifically remember an episode of lois and clark where he tells lois or someone that anything within a few millimeters to his body is invincible, i am in no way thinking of batman- it is a known fact that when WORN by clark kent, his clothing/cape/suit is invincible like him

[rx7g3n3s1s]

i dont want to see clark in tights lol

[The Source]

i think it was also suggested after Lois said she had a dream about a guy in a red cape.

[livn_life]

However, Clark's work clothes are not made invulnerable by his aura. So both theoeries are correct. The Kryptonian blankets made into the suit bond with Supes' aura, because they are of Kryptonian make. No clothes made on Earth have the same proporties.

Has anyone ever wondered that if the cloth is indestructable and invincible, how the heck could Mom Kent make clothes out of them?? How could she cut the pattern or stick a needle into it? Besides that how could she sew them together so that they didn't come apart with the first energy blast directed at Superman, did she make thread out of a blanket too?

I'll go with the aura of invulnerability theory. It would protect clothes that were closest to his body like a form fitting costume. Notice that in the comics, his cape is always trashed.

[The Source]

Lol! Agrees. Martha Kent is not Reed Richards. She wouldn't know how to make "invincible clothes".

[hottietom]

i remember reading something about martha having clark tear the blankets to make play clothes. i don't remember where.

and form-fitting costume? thanx for the image. :D i caint get enough of his abs.:D:D

[bucketofwater]

I'm with Steelgrave on this one. It seems certain that Martha was taking along the materials she would later use to construct his suit.

I want to see Chloe in a thight cat suit. or a lacy babydoll.

[Superdan13]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I thought so. On Lois and Clark, Superman's suit was in the hidden panel in his(Clark's) apartment where he kept them, and his place was almost torched, and the suits were destroyed :)

yer but remeber when he got it stained WHILST WEARING it and he rang his mom how how to get rid of the stain and she asked him is 'is it an oil stain?'

'I don't know it's a bomb stain' I think that is how it was said.

You know the episode where he goes into a building and Lex blew it up

[ckfan]

Martha grabbling the blanket kind of cracked me up at first - really essential item there - but you're probably right that it was one his blankets from the ship.

However, there is hardly any yellow on his suit, so I don't know if I buy that Martha needs it to make the suit - well, maybe just the tiny bit she needs for the outline of the "S".:)

[Steelegrave]

Originally posted by livn_life
Has anyone ever wondered that if the cloth is indestructable and invincible, how the heck could Mom Kent make clothes out of them?? How could she cut the pattern or stick a needle into it? Besides that how could she sew them together so that they didn't come apart with the first energy blast directed at Superman, did she make thread out of a blanket too?

I'll go with the aura of invulnerability theory. It would protect clothes that were closest to his body like a form fitting costume. Notice that in the comics, his cape is always trashed.

Kryptonite Needles?


Originally posted by livn_life
Has anyone ever wondered that if the cloth is indestructable and invincible, how the heck could Mom Kent make clothes out of them?? How could she cut the pattern or stick a needle into it? Besides that how could she sew them together so that they didn't come apart with the first energy blast directed at Superman, did she make thread out of a blanket too?

I'll go with the aura of invulnerability theory. It would protect clothes that were closest to his body like a form fitting costume. Notice that in the comics, his cape is always trashed.

Seroiusly I don't think anyone is suggesting that the suit is indestructible but because of its unique Kryptonian makeup it bonds with Supes indestructible aura.

[PKII]

Originally posted by benthebeast
Just to completly blow you out, here is a direct quote from the superman comics:

'superman's costume is, by all accounts, absolutely indestructible. Fire cannot burn it, the strongest shears cannot cut it, and neither bullets nor lightning can make a mark on it. Not even the force of six atomic bombs exploding inside it can do harm' (Superman #78, 1952)

Also the blanket martha was holding was yellow and shiny not a mark and tear on it and not knitted doesnt look to me like a 16 yr old baby blanket.

If its absolutely indestructible. How did she sew it together :confused: I thought it was Superman that gave off the indestructible field that protected his costume. Just a thought. Any answers would be helpful. :)

[DarkJustice]

In the 80's Dc comics realized more and more how ridiculus there comic characters were becoming, not just superman but all of them. Even superman was becoming too much he began having super everythings, super kisses (which was in the superman II movie also), super intelligence and so on. Anyway during the Crisis of Infinity earths they rewrote everyone's background and origins stories. Johnathan Kent was no longer dead, clark didnt have powers from birth and gradually gained them through his teen years and gained his last ones, I think heat vision and flight, before leaving smallville and going on a trek around the world to help people.
The suit deal with the milimeter aura came because people were asking the same questions of how could martha sew an indestructable suit and the more and more people asked the less believable the story came. So they came up with this idea that clark gave off a milimeter of invincible aura. Which is another reason why he'll always wear tights and his work clothes and normal clothes get torn up all the time. Its not as tight to his body so only the pieces that are within the milimeter to his body are indestructable. In the original movies the story was based on the old style comics since they hadnt changed the whole mythos yet.
And I think Martha said something about the yellow blanket being Clark's baby blanket. Not meaning it was the baby blanket he wore on the spaceship, just that it was his first blanket. I had a blanket that I kept for years and parents tend to keep a "baby's first" book or whatever so she was probably just keeping it for the sentimental reasons more than anything else.

[Billy Jor-El]

Originally posted by bucketofwater
I want to see Chloe in a tight cat suit. or a lacy babydoll.

oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my

I need a cold shower right about now. :D

Meanwhile, as I recall from the SIlver Age, Martha was able to unravel the blankets down to thread and use that to make the costume. I'm assuming Kal-El helped by cutting the thread with heat vision....

[samfish]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
His body gives off an aura, that anything within a millimeter of his skin is like a second skin

I've heard this before, but I don't think it's official. They've certianly toyed with the idea of Superman having some form of telekinesis.

Someone once said that Superman has his indestructable suit and cape and then a slew of others that are just regular fabric. His suit does tend to get trashed a lot in the comics. Not nearly as often as the cape, but often enough to dispel aura theory for me.

Again, I don't know if thats in congruity with the current comics; I do rather like that explaination, though.

[Jigga]

I think the aura is more believable than the kryptonian cloth idea. I mean the aura isn't indestructible just very strong i.e. fire can't burn through it and bullets don't leave holes, but if he gets hit by Doomsday, which is strong enough to dispel the aura, then the cloth could be damaged.

Yea, I heard or read some where about the telekinesis. It's was also suspected that the telekinesis was a trait that got past to Superboy (not Clark Kent) and hence why he has some telekinesis powers.

[Hyde]

A cloth from Krypton would have a higher molecular density, much like Clark has. And the Kryptonite dagger from Talisman.

That's the reason the dagger could cut Clark's skin, too.

But the cloth is yellow ... you can see in Memoria that there are no red or blue blankets in there ... Which means that Martha or Jonathan or Clark or all together will make the suit from terrestrial materials.

[jim[beam]]

What's the point of his costume being invulnerable ? He is practically invulnerable so...

invulnerable + invulnerable = invulnerable...there is no point in making all invulnerable lol

-jim

[Jephael]

Originally posted by rx7g3n3s1s
i dont want to see clark in tights lol

According to a good friend of mine, there's highly possible chance that in the next season Clark will become Superboy, meaning that he may be wearing something somewhat similar to one of Kon-El's outfits. Therefore, he probably won't be wearing tights just yet, even if he has a uniform resembling the costume.

It would make much more sense to me seeing as how he is not yet a grown man.

[Hyde]

According to a good friend of mine

Clark already reached the arctic. He is on the edge of becoming Superman. There won't be Superboy in Smallville.

[Superdan13]

is your friend called Jim?

[Jephael]

His name's Jon. Close though. He's a major fan of the show!

[Superdan13]

I think I have met him.

[-ronald-]

The fact is - Smallville has demonstrated time and time again that it doesn't follow exact comic mythology. So his suit could be Kryptonian, or it might not be, they might go for the aura thing, or not. However much you know about the comics, the only people who know how Smallville will play it are TPTB. Period.

[Ebert & Roeper]

I still like to think that the blanket was indeed the blanket from the ship for several reasons. I would like if Martha made it into part of the suit, even if it is not an indestructable suit. Also, that is some of the best continuity that the show has had, since it was back in Memoria that we saw the yellow blanket. I just hope tptb didn't make a continuity blunder and forget that it was a bluish gray blanket that J & M Kent wrapped him in when they found him....

[Superdan13]

now that sounds like something the clows would do

[Hyde]

It's yellow ... it can't be a part of the suit.

[Ebert & Roeper]

There is yellow in the suit.
Not much, but I still believe that it would require some fabric. The fact that it is only a small part of the suit works, b/c then Martha could sew a little bit of the blanket into each new suit. I really don't know what its significance was, but I think it made the cut in the episode b/c it has some significance.

[Superdan13]

Originally posted by Hyde
It's yellow ... it can't be a part of the suit.

what colours are the crest on his chest? what colour is the crest on his cape, do you even know anything about superman? you innsolent fool

[Hyde]

That's the crest, not the suit, fool.

[DarkJustice]

the crest is on the center of the suit, jeez if hes talking about any yellow being on the suit of course hes talking about the crests.

[Superdan13]

Originally posted by Hyde
That's the crest, not the suit, fool.

the crests are on the suit, so there is yellow on the suit you FOOL


Originally posted by DarkJustice
the crest is on the center of the suit, jeez if hes talking about any yellow being on the suit of course hes talking about the crests.

well said

[Ebert & Roeper]

I hope you two are joking around...

[Hyde]

Stop fooling me around fool :D :D :D

The cloth comes from Krypton and because of its higher molecular density, Martha can't cut it and take pieces from it for the crest ...

[IVISupermanIVI]

As far as I am concerned, Superman loses his powers when he is under a red UV light for too long, because he absorbs the energy from that. It's been in the cartoons quite a few times. What if Martha figures that out and she just puts the blankets under red UV rays for a few days then cuts them under the light too. Then takes them back out into the sun to become involnerable again? Kryptonite doesn't have to be the answer for everything. Also for the yellow, the whole crest on the back of the cape is entirely yellow so that would require a certian amount of material on its own. I really prefer not to believe in the aura idea, it's too dragon ball Z for me. Superman and all things kryptonian should be like a battery that absorbs radiation to make his powers. I believe that this could be explained because Krypton was so cold that Kryptonians evolved to heat their bodies through UV light rather than just plain heat, thus giving them differant effects and causing temperary mutation when their bodies absorb a yellow suns light rather than red. This absorbtion of energy through the skin could also explain why kryptonite hurts them, because there body is allergic to that certian type of radiation that it gives off. People on krypton in the comics are often times mentioned as dying from "The Green Death" a pleague that hit before the explosion of krypton, the green death was actually caused by kryptonite being formed in the planets core because of nueclear weapons being disposed of there. This would explain both why kryptonite changes humans, normal kryptonians, and Super men alike, in differant ways of course.
-Jon
http://www.2000adreview.co.uk/features/sprout/2003/penny/cape.jpg

[Hyde]

What if Martha figures that out and she just puts the blankets under red UV rays for a few days then cuts them under the light too. Then takes them back out into the sun to become involnerable again?

Why does Clark need invulnerable clothes? He does have an aura (as seen in the scene where Clark saves Whitney, Jordan, Krypto or the young boy in Commencement).

[DarkJustice]

Wether you believe in the aura theory or not thats the way his powers are in the comics since the late 80's when they revamped the whole DC universe. Its not like a super aura that he can charge and change like dragon ball or anything, its just like a small little area that comes off of his body, less thana milimeter. And Krypton isn't the cold ice world it was prtrayed as in the old movies anymore, either it was a pretty decent looking planet acording to the newer comics.

The red UV light makes sense though, but I don't think his clothes are indestructable like he is.

[MoA]

Originally posted by benthebeast
Just to completly blow you out, here is a direct quote from the superman comics:

'superman's costume is, by all accounts, absolutely indestructible. Fire cannot burn it, the strongest shears cannot cut it, and neither bullets nor lightning can make a mark on it. Not even the force of six atomic bombs exploding inside it can do harm' (Superman #78, 1952)

Also the blanket martha was holding was yellow and shiny not a mark and tear on it and not knitted doesnt look to me like a 16 yr old baby blanket.

Not necessarily accurate. In the 1986 (?) reboot of Superman, his costume can be damaged. The pre-1986 comics wouldn't apply if TPTB are following the current (last 20 years) of Superman history.

[Hyde]

It depends if it's made from Kryptonian cloth or not. The only blanket Clark came to Earth with is yellow ...

[MoA]

According to...?

The last four superman movies?
The pre-1986 comics?
The post-1986 comics?

[Hyde]

According to all, I like to believe.

[DarkJustice]

The last 4 superman movies were based on the pre 1986 comics, with some adaptaions. Most of Smallville has been based on the post 1986 version of the comics. Especially the entire theme of the show, in the original ones Clark had his powers as soon as he landed on earth and from the time he was a baby. But in the post 1986 ones he had to wait until he was a teenager and had stored up enough solar energy and his puberty hit to activate most of his abilities.

Also in the post 1986 revamp he has a bunch of suits hanging around, and they get torn up a lot. He might use that blanket as part of his first suit if you want, but I don't see anyway that it would be invincible. Besides wheres the rest of the red and blue that he'd need for the entire outfit? In his flash back of LAara and Jor-el, Lara was wearing all read and jor-el was wearing all blue, and he had the yellow blanket so it could just be that he wanted to use all three colors mixed to recognize his kryptonian parents. It's nothing like that in the comics though, but it could be what the writers of smallville were thinking when they chose the costumes for Lara and Jor-El and the blanket for Clark.

[Supersonic]

ora
I believe you mean Aura =D

[Jephael]

According to my pal Jon (the same guy I mentioned earlier), there was once a scene in the cartoon series where someone found a whole load of spare Superman uniforms in Clark Kent's closet creating speculation that the two were one in the same (which of coarse is true) so Supes cleverly designed this holographic projection of himself explaining why he would leave his suits at "Clark's" apartment.

[DarkJustice]

That happened on Lois and Clark too I think. The hologram defense Clark used to prove he wasnt superman.

[PKII]

Originally posted by rx7g3n3s1s
i dont want to see clark in tights lol

Me either but Lana might. She sure checks him out when he is wearing a wet T-shirt. ;)

[DarkJustice]

Yeha you never know, Clark has had dreams about skinny dipping with her, shes prolly had some dreams about him in his tighty whities. Wait till she sees him flying around in bright blue tights hehe.