Tarzan

[rumpuso]

I just happened upon a Tarzan website this morning when I was browsing and I noticed an aritcle that stated Tarzan has been officially cancelled. I hadn't heard that yet. Have you?

[Hartski]

I haven't heard that yet, but it's about time.

[BoDuke]

YYIPPPPEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

[superfrodo]

Good. It sucked. But Travis is still hot. ;)

*Tiff*

[Chlois]

Yeah, Travis is incredible to look at, but agree that show stinks.

[Tayoni]

My mother loves EVERYTHING Tarzan. She watched the movies when she was a kid and an ex-olympiad swim champion Johnny Weismiller (I think?) was the guy who played Tarzan. She watched all the Tarzan related shows and movies she's ever been able to get her paws on. And she's watched some pretty stupid versions of Tarzan but still liked it for the simple fact it was Tarzan.

But, when she saw this most recent version of WB's Tarzan, she looked at me and almost cried because the entire point of the whole Tarzan universe as she knew it had been way too drastically changed. She said the biggest dissapointment was that Jane is just not Jane at all!

I'll wait to find out for sure if this thing got cancelled, but I'm not surprised in the least to hear this news. When I do find out for sure and tell her, I think even she'll say, 'Thank God! That show was awful!'

[nothingsshocking]

Did anyone really expect it to last more than a season anyway? It was pretty awful. I tried to watch an episode just to kill time, and I finally switched to CNN.

[TWShakar]

It was obvous that sooner or later it would be cancelled. It had potential, but they already killed it with just a few episodes.

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[SMLVLFAN89]

They should put smallville reruns in its place. :D

[Mr Boejangles]

good bye...
goood byyyeeeee.....
gooooooddddd bbbbbyyyyyyyeeeeee
- family guy

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by SMLVLFAN89
They should put smallville reruns in its place. :D


That got me to thinking - is there such a thing as Tarzan Easy View? If there was, maybe Smallville could overtake that spot for some much needed Smallville Easy View! Petition time!!!

[Quarashi]

"I think they should replace it with Strong bad emails!

[LadyOphelia]

Awww... No more 'spot the Toronto landmark'!

I was getting really sick of Jane's blank stares...

[luthorsmentor]

if this is true what took them so long and how exactly did they ever convince anyone to air it in the first place?

[LadyOphelia]

Originally posted by luthorsmentor
if this is true what took them so long and how exactly did they ever convince anyone to air it in the first place?

I guess they really wanted to give it a chance, and in theory it does sound good. But the acting and the writing was horrible...

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by LadyOphelia
I guess they really wanted to give it a chance, and in theory it does sound good. But the acting and the writing was horrible...


You forgot to capitalize the word "horrible".

[LadyOphelia]

Oops, my mistake. :)

IT WAS HORRIBLE I TELL YOU! HORRIBLE! AHHHH! :lol:

[Mr Boejangles]

Originally posted by luthorsmentor
if this is true what took them so long and how exactly did they ever convince anyone to air it in the first place?

cause some guy from the spiderman movie is invloved , i bet.

[Supernatural Hero]

I'm still trying to figure out how they decided to air this stain on the Superman mythos that we all come here to discuss.

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by LadyOphelia
Oops, my mistake. :)

IT WAS HORRIBLE I TELL YOU! HORRIBLE! AHHHH! :lol:


Thank you for acknowledging the correction...you may now proceed with the rest of your evening. (I'd add a smiley face here, but I haven't figured out how to yet - oh well).


Originally posted by Supernatural Hero
I'm still trying to figure out how they decided to air this stain on the Superman mythos that we all come here to discuss.


I believe it's the fantastic new take on the Superman story, topped with an unbelievably talented cast and a huge fan following. Something along those lines...

[LanaandPete]

they are replaciing it with Fearless

[Mr Boejangles]

what is that

[shirkie]

"Fearless" is that new show with Rachel Leigh Cook that will prolly be canceled after ten episodes too. I'M MAD THEY'RE CANCELING "TARZAN!" Sure, the plot was non-existent. Sure, the actors couldn't act their way out of a wet paper bag. Sure, the show stank like a rotting zebu carcass. BUT TRAVIS FIMMEL IS HOT, AND HE RAN AROUND SHIRTLESS AND POUTY! Grr. Well, all I have to say is TW better get naked a lot more on "Smallville" to compensate. ;)
shirkie

[Dannyblue1]

They were hoping TARZAN would be the next SMALLVILLE. Look at it. Many of the same elements are there. You've got a hunky, superhuman hero. You had a romance. You had they "rich enough to buy us all" villain, a la Lionel Luthor. You even had your Freaks of the Weak...only they were completely human criminals. They even had a name brand as universal as Superman. Who hasn't heard of Tarzan?

I hate to say it, but I think the WB thought they could just throw this on the air and grab the same audience SMALLVILLE had...then worry about stuff like writing, acting, good storylines...

As for FEARLESS, it just doesn't seem to be working creatively. They've been out of production since filming the pilot and, according to one of the actors, while they are still under contract, there hasn't been any word about getting the series back up and running. But I did hear that, if they do move ahead with FEARLESS, it probably won't premiere until the spring.

However, the WB has two reality shows ready to go, and a network rep said one of those will probably move into TARZAN's spot. Oh, joy.

Also, TARZAN did air in EasyView! for a while. A very short while. They pulled it when the ratings for the first runs started slipping.

[Oracle]

:confused: They... cancelled Tarzan?? *thiiinks, sniffles for a moment8 Okay, I'm over it. heh..

[LadyOphelia]

For some reason, Fearless just doesn't interest me at all...

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by LadyOphelia
For some reason, Fearless just doesn't interest me at all...


Ditto that...it looks kinda dumb to me.

[Chlois]

Originally posted by shirkie
Sure, the plot was non-existent. Sure, the actors couldn't act their way out of a wet paper bag. Sure, the show stank like a rotting zebu carcass. BUT TRAVIS FIMMEL IS HOT, AND HE RAN AROUND SHIRTLESS AND POUTY! Grr. Well, all I have to say is TW better get naked a lot more on "Smallville" to compensate. ;)
shirkie

If you think about it, it is pretty unfair. Men had Baywatch for years, why can't women have a show that's completely about watching sexy men. We should have a show with Travis Fimmel, Christian Bale, Tom Welling, and maybe Viggo Mortensen. It could be a really hot version of the A Team.

As for TW and more nakedity, he does lose his clothes quite a bit. But more could be good too.

[Dannyblue1]

Well, Travis Fimmel is very resistent to taking off his shirt. In interviews, he seems almost embarrassed by his past as an underwear model and says he wants to be taken more seriously. As a result, he would only take off his shirt on TARZAN when really pushed into it because he didn't want that to be what he was known for.

Someone should have told him he wasn't going to be winning any Emmies any time soon, no matter how many layers he wore. And, you know, if you're going to sign up to star in a TARZAN show, you should be willing to go shirtless at least once per ep. But, oh well...

[rumpuso]

You gotta feel bad for the guy - the WB clearly promoted him as their next big star (think Tom Welling!) and he must have been all pumped up thinking that would happen, but he fell flat and in front of millions of people. Reminds me of the flop movie "Fair Game" with Cindy Crawford. Here's another example of a very popular/successful model trying out her acting chops and falling flat - clearly not her strong point or Travis'. Wonder if he'll go back to modeling, or give acting another shot (if anyone will risk having him). Makes you really appreciate the raw talent Welling exudes for the craft. Clearly he has found his niche.

[bluehybrid69]

It is about time!!!

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by rumpuso
Makes you really appreciate the raw talent Welling exudes for the craft. Clearly he has found his niche.

That's the problem. They hired TW for SMALLVILLE, which worked out pretty well. It doesn't occur to them that they got lucky with TW. No, they've decided any model-gorgeous actor/actress can carry a TV show.

[lovethatsmallville]

AW!!!! I know I'm the only one who liked it, but i think it could have been a really good show

[Supernatural Hero]

I just started reading the original novel, last night.

[Watcher]

The Tarzan books are cool.
The Tarzan series was a big load of monkey dung. First the Lone Ranger and now this. I'll tell you, the WB doesn't have much luck when it comes to legends. Smallville is good, but I don't know how they managed it with their record.

[Supernatural Hero]

I think they're screwing up Superman just as bad with Smallville. It's only lasting because the majority of its fanbase aren't Superman fans. They don't know the character well enough and therefore don't have the respect for him to see this show for what it really is. Then there's the fans that are general American public who don't know crap when they see it.

[Chase M]

Thank god.

That show was such a horrible concept. It's like George of the Jungle, but without that intelligent ape.

I'm surprised it went on for so long.

[Tayoni]

I think they're screwing up Superman just as bad with Smallville. It's only lasting because the majority of its fanbase aren't Superman fans.


You can say that again! You're so right! Wished I'd thought of saying that. I'm not a comic reader (at all) but am a S-man fan! I watched the movies and the animated series. I noticed that the people who are big fans of S-man are the most annoyed by Smallville. And I'm annoyed by the show a lot too. A lot of what pisses me off is that they portray Clark as an imbecile who's major concern is mooning over a girl. To me that's greatly disrepectful toward Superman.

They totally screwed Tarzan up the same way! They changed cannon so much that it was practically unrecognizable. So the fans of Tarzan were alienated by this new version of it. If they would have kept more of the original ideas of the Tarzan mythos in place, I think it would have worked for them. They didn't really think it through though, and all their efforts to rethink a legend flopped in the mud.

[_M_]

Good. Now there is a slot for easy view smallville and sv beginings! ;)

[zanos]

I'm actually shocked by all the negative response to the show on this board of all places. LOL! I guess when you are fed garbage week after week for 2 and a half seasons, after a while you won't eat anything else. :lol:

Bad acting and writing actually describes Smallville to a tee. But Tarzan to my surprise has none of those things. The relationships on the show are realistic. The writing is well done and doesn't insult your intelligence like it does on Smallville. Not to mention the fight and stunt choreography is the best I've ever seen on any tv show. It's failing because general audiences just aren't interested in the character whereas Superman in high school is so popular that it doesn't matter how bad it is. People will still watch it.

[Tayoni]

I get what yer saying Zanos. Smallville really isn't that great of a show.

But I thnk the reason Tarzan flunked off the air wasn't because of how it was written. I think it's because all the Tarzan fans weren't ready for that much of a change to the TZ universe.

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by zanos
I'm actually shocked by all the negative response to the show on this board of all places. LOL! I guess when you are fed garbage week after week for 2 and a half seasons, after a while you won't eat anything else. :lol:

Bad acting and writing actually describes Smallville to a tee. But Tarzan to my surprise has none of those things. The relationships on the show are realistic. The writing is well done and doesn't insult your intelligence like it does on Smallville. Not to mention the fight and stunt choreography is the best I've ever seen on any tv show. It's failing because general audiences just aren't interested in the character whereas Superman in high school is so popular that it doesn't matter how bad it is. People will still watch it.


I actually couldn't disagree with you more. I really wanted to like Tarzan. I watched several episodes of this version. I have been a Tarzan fan since I can remember (back in the early 60s). But, this version to me was unfortunately unwatchable due to some of the actors (primarily Travis Fimmell), but mostly because of the writing. I found there to be zero chemistry between Tarzan and Jane as well as no believable reason for Tarzan to be following/stalking her around New York. The writers forgot to give us a reason to love these two main characters, and they also didn't establish any believable reason for such a heightened attraction. The plots each week didn't satisfy more than any usual good cop, bad cop show. I was absolutely crushed that this show did not live up to its hype. I love the story of Tarzan, in any version. But, I guess I can say that I finally found a version that didn't suit me.

[Kerryann]

Originally posted by rumpuso
That got me to thinking - is there such a thing as Tarzan Easy View? If there was, maybe Smallville could overtake that spot for some much needed Smallville Easy View! Petition time!!!

Since Smallville Beginnings is on at 7 pm and Tarzan is on at 8 pm, they should replace Tarzan with Smallville's Second Season..


Originally posted by Supernatural Hero
I think they're screwing up Superman just as bad with Smallville. It's only lasting because the majority of its fanbase aren't Superman fans. They don't know the character well enough and therefore don't have the respect for him to see this show for what it really is. Then there's the fans that are general American public who don't know **** when they see it.

Forgive me, but I found that last remark rude and offensive...

[HuffyTheCampfireSlayer]

Supernatural Hero, please don't make such vast generalisations about the whole of America without a vastly detailed scientific study on the matter (although even then you have to be careful about how you generalise), m'kay? It offends people.

[zanos]

Originally posted by rumpuso
I actually couldn't disagree with you more. I really wanted to like Tarzan. I watched several episodes of this version. I have been a Tarzan fan since I can remember (back in the early 60s). But, this version to me was unfortunately unwatchable due to some of the actors (primarily Travis Fimmell), but mostly because of the writing. I found there to be zero chemistry between Tarzan and Jane as well as no believable reason for Tarzan to be following/stalking her around New York. The writers forgot to give us a reason to love these two main characters, and they also didn't establish any believable reason for such a heightened attraction. The plots each week didn't satisfy more than any usual good cop, bad cop show. I was absolutely crushed that this show did not live up to its hype. I love the story of Tarzan, in any version. But, I guess I can say that I finally found a version that didn't suit me.

I can accept the fact you didn't like it. That's not a problem. What I find hilarious is when you and others start criticizing the show for it's acting and writing when Smallville is one of the worst written shows in all of tv. How does that work? It'd be like if Charmed or BOP fans started bashing BTVS for bad acting and writing or if Enterprise fans started bashing Star Trek TNG for the same thing. Cmon. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Watching Smallville has completely warped your sense of tv reality. You actually don't know why he's "stalking" her and why she would be attracted to him? LOL!! I wasn't aware that you had to have a really good logical reason for liking someone heightened or not. What are you comparing this to? The laughable relationship between Lana and Clark which plays out like a school play between 12 year olds? :lol: As for the characters I find them perfectly likeable even Mitch Pilegge who plays a believable villian. I certainly care more about them than Lana, Pete and Chloe who have absolutely nothing to do on the show. The writers are always coming up with repetitive and overly contrived reasons why they must be on screen with Clark. Pete who plays Clark's best friend and the only person who knows about his secret was missing for the first three episodes of the season. Then there's the constant plot holes, bad acting, repetitive storylines, little Lana and Clark "talks" at the end of every episode made worse when there isn't even an ounce of chemistry between both "actors", etc. etc.

[HuffyTheCampfireSlayer]

zanos, if you have problems with the show, then it's fine to state them. Just not in a Tarzan thread. Please stay on topic or you'll get a warning. Start your own Smallville critic thread in the general forum, if you like. But don't talk about how much you dislike the show in a Tarzan thread, because the quality of Smallville is not in anyway relevant to Tarzan being banned. Thanks.

[rumpuso]

I was surprised to see a new episode on last night. I thought with the show being cancelled that they would have pulled the plug on all the episodes. Anybody have any ideas about this? Mabye they are obligated to play out the episodes already taped???

[ProudPenny]

I couldn't agree more with zanos. I really enjoyed Tarzan. I thought it was intelligent, the characters were extremely human, and frankly, Travis Fimmel was very convincing in the role. It's actually quite a difficult role to pull off. He had to be simple in thought, but intelligent and sharp witted. I'm really impressed by his acting, especially his physicality which looks so much like those of apes/ gorillas that it's really fascinating. I don't even think he's good looking at all, and he's too short for his body to impress me. I just honestly think he was pretty good.

I agree that there wasn't that much chemistry between Jane and Tarzan at first. It was believable, and enough for me, that he fell for her instantly and felt something really primal and amazing about it. She didn't feel the same way right away, but we've seen her slowly fall for him, too. It's been very organic.

Uncle Dick is a very interesting and complex villain. I loved Kate, too. The Dynasty style battle of wits for the financial empire was really intriguing. And I agree that Smallville is a terrible show.


Now there is a slot for easy view smallville and sv beginings!
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure they're going to go with some original programming. And according to Ian Somerhalder just last week, there has been no further production on Fearless. Chick superheroes based on gimmicky concepts aren't doing so great this season. See Tru Calling, which should get canceled any day now.

[Big Albowski]

I am not gonna say Tarzan was a great show but it was ok! Actually was starting to grow on me and I am now sad it's gonna be gone! Travis Fimmel was doing a great job physically with the role as Miss Windy mentioned! His movement was excellent and the way they had him fight was convincing! Jane was a beautiful woman but seemed too mature for Tarzan! Their chemistry seemed almost mother/son and was a little creepy at times! Last nights episode was really the first one that didn't creep me out and I think it was because they were out of the city! John seemed more in his element and she was more dependent on him which was closer to the original concept for Tarzan and Jane so long ago... in the movies anyway! Lucy and Mitch were great and I hope they find new shows soon!

Al

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by Miss Windy
I couldn't agree more with zanos. I really enjoyed Tarzan.
... And I agree that Smallville is a terrible show.





Hi Miss Windy! I just wanted to make a quick comment here. I have no issue whatsoever in your agreeing with zanos. But, I must admit a bit of shock to realize that you think Smallville is a terrible show. Since you are a moderator of this site, I thought loving Smallville kind of went hand in hand with that job. I'm just surprised, that's all.

[HuffyTheCampfireSlayer]

Just because you think a show is terrible, doesn't mean it can't be a guilty pleasure, I for the most part think the writing on Smallville is pretty awful. But that doesn't mean that I can't still like watching the show.

[rumpuso]

true enough

[Supernatural Hero]

You shouldn't be offended by what I said, unless you are part of that general public. I am an American and dod not consider myself part of it. And I still watch Smallville. I just know it's ****. And as for Tarzan, it is too. It may not be as bad but it's still not great. And they raped the characters on Tarzan worse than they did on Smallville. I didn't intend to offend anyone with my statement about the American public, but it is how I feel. I am sorry for offending anyone. If you know **** when you see it, then you shouldn't consider yourself part of the group I was talking about and therefore shouldn't be offended.

[manoftommrow79]

I never watched an episode but just by watching the promos I knew the show would be canceled.It's the same sense I had when they did birds of prey with birds of prey they tried to feed off the batman storyline. But birds of prey failed for two reasons. 1. NO batman and 2. the acting SUCKED.

Now I don't know alot about Tarzan except that he lives in the Jungle like George of the Jungle. Now if they did a George of the Jungle tv series with Brendan Frazier it might work.Because Brendan's character went to the city in the first film. But making a sequel was a mistake without the original actors.

Anyways i'm all for a pre-batman mythology story kinda like how they did Smallville.Have it about Bruce Wayne come to terms with his parent's death.And have him start his path onto becoming batman the dark knight. Unless of course they have Bruce in Smallville SOON.

[Rose etta]

Posted by Quarashi:

I think they should replace it with Strong Bad emails!
LOL They would have acquired a devoted following, for sure!

==>heard the news in entertainment section of the newspaper.
I thot the guy looked dim and they had some weird 'powers' for him -- I dropped in to view one ep where he 'sensed' where a kidnapped child was being held: in the trunk of one car amid an entire junk yard of wecked cars. What'd Tarzan do? -- smell him?
Totally lame.
==>still, I feel sorry for the actor who wanted to make it, like TW has.

[rumpuso]

Anyone know how this past Sunday's episode fared in the ratings? I recently read that the WB has put Tarzan on hiatus, but is waiting to pull the plug officially until they see how the next 3 episodes play out.

[Dannyblue1]

Last Sundays ep got a 1.9/3 in the fast nationals, which is pretty typical of the season so far.

[shirkie]

No more Travis Fimmel, it sounds like Ian Somerhalder's show is axed already... Thank goodness we still have Tom! :)
shirkie

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by shirkie
No more Travis Fimmel, it sounds like Ian Somerhalder's show is axed already... Thank goodness we still have Tom! :)
shirkie


Hey shirkie! Did you read somewhere that Tarzan has been officially cancelled? I read it was on an indefinite hiatus (which essentially means the same thing) while they see how the last few episodes do in the ratings. Also, wonder where we can get updated info on the cancellations of other shows, like Ian Somerhalder's show as you mentioned. Ideas?

[Zorel241]

The WORST tv show i've ever viewed. All i watched is like 10 minutes, and i knew the show would fail.

[shirkie]

rumpuso, no, I didn't read anywhere that "Tarzan" was officially canceled, but... It's pretty much gasping for air and flopping around like a dying fish. :) The best place, IMHO, to find up-to-date info about which shows are/aren't being canceled is TWoP. They see to know what's going on in the TV biz.

And Zorel241, yes, it was a terrible show. Yes, the plots, if they existed, made no sense. Yes, the name "Tarzan" was spoken maybe once during the whole series. Yes, all the characters had the annoying "Let's call each other by our full names all the time" thing going on ("John Clayton" "Jane Porter" "Richard Clayton" "Michael Foster" "BLAH BLAH BLAH"). Yes, Jane did that incredibly annoying blinkblinkblink thing between every other word of her dialogues. Yes, I watched every episode. Yes, I'm cranky it was canceled because it was my guilty pleasure. Not to mention I LOVED the monkeyish fight choreography!!!
Still pouting,
shirkie

[auzzo77]

I think the show had great potential, and I enjoyed the premise. I
think it was a great moral tale, like Highlander. I don't agree that his character had dumb jungle sense. I relate it more to the show the Sentinel that used to be on UPN. I think it's more a take on the evolution theory, where the heightened senses are concerned. The show wasn 't very much about that -but more about the fight to fit in to a world that is supposed to be so much more civilized than the one he came out of- but in truth really is not. John/Tarzan and Jane also had amazing chemistry. It wasn't some puppy dog love, which I heard it called, but more that animal passion, where one just knows by that 1st encounter- this is their companion. And more in the human realm, John just knows Jane is the one. It deserves a better fate than being relegated to Sundays w/o any other time to get fan support.

[Spiked]

I agree with auzzo77. The show had great potential. The 9:00 p.m. time slot on Sunday is probably the hardest competition. I've heard WB will be making their decision in January. There's still time to save it. :)

[Marty McFly]

I only saw a couple of episodes, but from what I saw I can understand why "Tarzan" was cancelled. I thought it was laughably bad, and most TV critics agreed with me. As for all the anti-"Smallville" comments, can't say I'm surprised, but for the life of me I'll never understand why someone who thinks the show is "****" (very classy way to put it, btw) or "terrible" would even watch the show, much less post on a message board devoted to it. Surely you have better things to do with your time (or maybe you don't, and that's the problem). It seems to me that while certainly everyone is entitled to their opinion, posting such things on a "Smallville" site borders on trolling. It's even worse to imply that people who find the show entertaining (and not in an ironic way) are idiots.

[charmedphoebe]

I saw all the episodes of this show and I have them I tape. They sould of at leat finish the season they stopped in the middle of it.