View Full Version : Why does clark throw the stone away at the end?
007craft
05-18-2005, 06:23 PM
Wouldent one assume its of valuable impotance? And how did he get teleported to antartica?
and how did lana survive the crash? thats impossible.
I also thought the show would be 90 mins? it was only like 63 mins.
Original_Sin
05-18-2005, 06:24 PM
shhh... shut up!
Ack! Don't put spoilers into your freakin titles. Grrrr
007craft
05-18-2005, 06:25 PM
Well this is a forum about this epidoes discussion. perhaps you should watch it before you come here.
Timester
05-18-2005, 06:26 PM
Why everyone keeps asking about the 90 mins? Not even a normal show is 1 hour exactly, it's 42 mins.
Originally posted by 007craft
this is a spoiler forum? what are you doing here if you dont want to listen to spoilers?
No, this is not a spoilers forum. Plenty of people didn't saw the episode yet.
007craft
05-18-2005, 06:26 PM
sorry i Edited my statement
Original_Sin
05-18-2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by 007craft
Well this is a forum about this epidoes discussion. perhaps you should watch it before you come here.
I've seen it, but I know that you're going to ruin a huge part for those that haven't. Have a little f'in respect man.
007craft
05-18-2005, 06:31 PM
well then i gotta ask what those people are doing in a forum about the discussion of an episode they never seen yet? and I didnt spoil anything major.
I guess we cant put stuff in the topics until the people who get to see it 6 months from now have seen it too huh?
SheBangs
05-18-2005, 06:32 PM
Because you got it early..for most people the show starts at 7 or 8 or even later
Original_Sin
05-18-2005, 06:33 PM
The episode is on for them RIGHT NOW. It airs immediately after you see it. They're here to discuss what's happening AS IT HAPPENS FOR THEM.
There's very, very few of us that get to watch it early. You shouldn't spoil it for the majority of the crowd by posting something so vital to the end of the episode.
007craft
05-18-2005, 06:37 PM
so its not ok to spoil it for everyone watching it now but its ok for everyone to spoil it in an hour from now? what about all the Europeans who havent seen it yet and want to discuss as its happening?
Why do the 8 oclockers get preferense over all the other watchers in the world?
I should be able to mention what i want as long as its about this episode. I spoiled nothing about other episodes and its not like i posted this in the general forum or something.
Original_Sin
05-18-2005, 06:38 PM
Do the Europeans even get The WB there?
Nope.
SheBangs
05-18-2005, 06:38 PM
your suppose to put a spoiler tag and not what happens like "I cant believe(spoilers)"
007craft
05-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by SheBangs
your suppose to put a spoiler tag and not what happens like "I cant believe(spoilers)"
really? I see tons of topics in last weeks episode forum stating stuff like "jasons dead" etc etc without spoiler warnings?
SheBangs
05-18-2005, 06:41 PM
This is after the episode has aired or is airing while most ppl are getting it.
SuperToad
05-18-2005, 06:44 PM
he threw it because he was meant to. It will open the Fortress of Solitude in the Season Premiere.
I was pissed that there was no Batman footage shown on the ASN channel (the 7pm EST start time)
Dark_Valkyrie
05-18-2005, 06:56 PM
Well, they didn't promise any footage on ASN.... not to my knowledge, anyway.
The whole 90 minute thing was not the case on THAT channel in particular. I was kind of disappointed. My little 9 year old brother kept on asking me questions during the whole thing, too, and I was like : I'M TRYING TO LISTEN, HERE!!!!
He made me miss the last 15 mins of last season's finale...
Man, did he EVER make me angry!
Shalamarke
05-18-2005, 10:13 PM
The thread title refers to Clark throwing the stone, but this thread seems to be more of a debate regarding spoiler warnings.
Here's the official statement in the board rules:
5) We have a one week rule for any new episode that airs which means you cannot discuss anything about that particular episode on the regular forums up to one week after airing. We have designated forums for each new episode that comes out in which you can discuss what happened to your heart's content. Older episodes can be discussed in the "General Discussion" forum.
I read this to mean that THIS is the forum where we get to have open discussion.
I fully support spoiler warnings - - where they belong - - which isn't here, sorry.
As for him throwing the stone - it's a tip of the hat to Superman the Movie where he throws the crystal and it creates the fortress of solitude.
opera_ghost
05-18-2005, 10:29 PM
The crystal has been tossed out into the air.. and it builds the fortress of solitude... it's probably the most closely related to 'canon' thing they have ever done in the history of the series. (Except for maybe Lex's worst nightmare.)
The tossing of the crystal I knew would be the last clark shot the minute I heard about them filming part of it in a glacier.
In terms of the spoiler/non-spoiler debate.... I have one philosophy...
I don't read threads on an episode that I haven't yet seen.... period.
So if it's episode discussion.... assume that it's because you're talking about it from the standpoint of actually seeing it...
if not, take it to the spoiler forum. Even if it is just speculation..... so in other words, I think people have been far too harsh about this thread... and it's nature.
mr subconscious
05-18-2005, 11:02 PM
I thought that the scene when Clark throws the stone was an obvious reference to the 78' movie Superman, when young Clark throws the green crystal.
In that scene, yougn clark heaves the crystal and moments later, the frotress emerges. After fiddling with the crystals and learning of his bio daddy, we return to the fortress (from after the whole jor-el monolgue of his lectures) to find a mature Clark Kent decked out in his Kryptonian duds.
I can only say that in the season finale, the scene when clark throws the stone, is supposedly the last time we will ever see clark kent in the form we've grown accustomed to. I think, in the next season Clark will return with a more mature attitude and a reformed strong focus and belief in the ideals of truth and justice in the American way.
I believe he will make his return as the man of steel.
And that's what i thought about that short scene.
Back2UICollide
05-18-2005, 11:23 PM
[i]...
I also thought the show would be 90 mins? it was only like 63 mins. [/B]
Actually considering Smallville only lasted 80 minutes and we got 63 minutes of show. That's really decent time span, and a much larger percentage of show than the usual hour.
Summers
05-18-2005, 11:25 PM
It was homage to the Superman: The Movie. My sister and I were like "its pretty...me want" lol.
Xplosive
05-18-2005, 11:25 PM
How do you know that's Antarctica?
arachkid
05-18-2005, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Original_Sin
I've seen it, but I know that you're going to ruin a huge part for those that haven't. Have a little f'in respect man.
Hm. Common sense dictates if you haven't seen an episode, don't enter the forum for it on the night it airs?
Step one, he clicks on episode discussions - so he knows the forums will be discussing episodes. Step two, he enters 4-22 "Commencement", knowing full and well that all discussion in this particular forum will be about that episode.
Stay out if you've not seen it, or deal with the consequences.
UDStyle
05-18-2005, 11:30 PM
The stone builds the Fortress of Solitude.. The home of Superman on earth which resembles structures of Krypton itself. At least thats what the comics showed. Think of it as a home away from (obliterated) home. :D
jadkins555
05-18-2005, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by mr subconscious
I believe he will make his return as the man of steel.
And that's what i thought about that short scene.
But isn't it too early for that to happen? I thought the show was about developing Clark Kent into Superman. If what you said is true, then it has happened. What would be the point of continuing the show?
Kryppy
05-18-2005, 11:47 PM
If you really don't know why Clark threw the stone, go rent the 1978 Superman film.
mr subconscious
05-18-2005, 11:51 PM
hey, if what i say is true then good. I'd like to see this show end cuz clark's high school days are ova.
time for some serious business, know what i'm sayin' jadkins?
I'm talkin about Superman Returns btw lol
cheers kryppy.
superman_115
05-18-2005, 11:56 PM
WOW, I read more of everyone getting their panties in a wad then what the question was about. You don't see me fussing about anything and I missed it, but I watched it later after I read it, but did you see me crying, NO.
And I hate to say it, but they are some pretty igorant questions here.
DUH! If anyone knows just a little about the Fortress of Solitude, it was in Antarctica in the mythology.
Like someone said, rent the 1978 movie of Superman and you will see why he threw the stone.
To build his Fortress of Solitude.
I thought was a thread about the stone, not a thread whining and crying about everything. GEESH
TatorSalad
05-19-2005, 12:01 AM
If you watched the original Superman the Movie you will know that on Clark's 18th birthday the essence of his father will summon him to the North Pole for his education of his real identity and history of his home planet Krypton. Also the Fortress of Solitude will probably be established as Clark retreat from the future struggles and conflicts he will face. This episode brought tears of memories from the original movie and my strong feeling for the late Christopher Reeve.:cool:
pcruz5
05-19-2005, 12:52 AM
in the movie when clark threw the green cystal it made the Fortress of Solitude and i am guessing that in Smallville , that clark trowing the stone will also make the FOS and that close to the end or at the end of season 5 clark WILL be Superman....
opera_ghost
05-20-2005, 12:19 PM
In the movie, there is a line from Jor-El about how something like 12 of your years will have passed by the time you education has been completed...
They can't have a smallville series for another year and lock him away for 12 years.... But, I do believe that the next year... or more (Though I still think this will be the last season)... and continue with the other characters.
So it's just a matter of how long do they want to stretch out his education.... and what sort fo effect of the meteor hitting the farmhouse and taking out the second floor going to have on him... and Ma and Pa Kent.
VersesBatman
05-20-2005, 12:22 PM
He was mad at it. Once again, his summer is shot to pieces.
<<S>>
05-20-2005, 12:28 PM
The crystal has been tossed out into the air.. and it builds the fortress of solitude... it's probably the most closely related to 'canon' thing they have ever done in the history of the series. (Except for maybe Lex's worst nightmare.)
The tossing of the crystal I knew would be the last clark shot the minute I heard about them filming part of it in a glacier.
In terms of the spoiler/non-spoiler debate.... I have one philosophy...
I don't read threads on an episode that I haven't yet seen.... period.
So if it's episode discussion.... assume that it's because you're talking about it from the standpoint of actually seeing it...
if not, take it to the spoiler forum. Even if it is just speculation..... so in other words, I think people have been far too harsh about this thread... and it's nature.
Yeah I feel bad for the guy the way people have been jumping on him. Perhaps he should have put spoiler in the title, but than again one posts assuming that people have seen the episode. If you haven't seen it the last place you want to be is on the messageboard, in the season finale section.
fa8362
05-20-2005, 12:58 PM
I don't think anyone should be looking to that awful "Superman" movie for inspiration. That movie was so awful, Brando tried to pay the studio to remove his scenes.
Renee28
05-20-2005, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
He was mad at it. Once again, his summer is shot to pieces.
That's the best explanation I've heard! :) Because seriously, within the context of the show, there's got to be a real reason for him to throw the thing. "He threw it in the movie" isn't a reason, considering that this Clark doesn't know there was a movie! If JE had told him to throw it, then it would make sense.
MBCorp
05-20-2005, 01:23 PM
I actually thought that he did throw it out of frustration and anger. He didn't exactly have a happy look on his face.
Jephael
05-20-2005, 01:34 PM
I like the idea of the Fortress of Solitude coming into being during the final two or three seasons. It will be a wonderful place for him to hone his skills as a hero while living a double life.
Kal'sGirl
05-20-2005, 01:38 PM
Clark probably believes Jor-El betrayed him-- for all Clark knows the meteor shower has destroyed Smallville and his friends and family.
He thinks Jor-El used him in an attempt to ferret him away from his family and the people he loves so he couldn't save them.
That explains the throw and the upset look on his face-- he thinks he was lied to and the consequences were probably great.
Daphne
05-20-2005, 01:39 PM
Summers, that's exactly what I thought, WOW PRETTY, me likey.
I told my husband I wanted one just like it and he said, "It's good to want."
:(
And though Clark may have been mad, the stone pointed, like, throw me there Clark!!!!!
VersesBatman
05-20-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Renee28
That's the best explanation I've heard! :) Because seriously, within the context of the show, there's got to be a real reason for him to throw the thing. "He threw it in the movie" isn't a reason, considering that this Clark doesn't know there was a movie! If JE had told him to throw it, then it would make sense.
I somehow have a hard time picturing Jor-El saying "Now Kal-El, throw it in the snow!" It just sounds funny coming from him. I don't know why.
MBCorp
05-20-2005, 01:58 PM
"Ka-El, my son, toss the stone high into the air!"
Eh, I can picture him saying it. Except knowing Clark he'd probably be like, "No! You can't tell me what to do!"
VersesBatman
05-20-2005, 02:00 PM
To which Jor-El would say, "Do I have to brand you again?"
sadeyedboy
05-20-2005, 02:02 PM
the episode lasted exactly 51:59 minutes.... which is almost 10 mins longer than a regular ep :S
randy23
05-20-2005, 02:12 PM
I can't believe I actually mixed the movies with comics. In the comics, Superman buries the Eradicator inside Antartica, he doesn't throw it like in the movies. The only time Superman actually threw the Eradicator is the time he threw him into the sun, but actually came back stronger.
Renee28
05-20-2005, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
I somehow have a hard time picturing Jor-El saying "Now Kal-El, throw it in the snow!" It just sounds funny coming from him. I don't know why.
No, the old windbag probably would have said something like, "Cast it forth . . ."
MBCorp
05-20-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by VersesBatman
To which Jor-El would say, "Do I have to brand you again?"
:rotfl:
VersesBatman
05-20-2005, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Renee28
No, the old windbag probably would have said something like, "Cast it forth . . ."
Or "Lobbest thy stone into the fallen snow thereof..."
Unbreakable Lex
05-20-2005, 02:44 PM
Pretty sure the stone floated up and pointed, in the process the big dumb alien most of you eloquently call Clark picked up on the clues that have evaded most of you and he tossed it as it told him to do.
If a show has 1/3 of time allocated to commercials, what would change by adding another 30 minutes?
So that would mean 60 minutes of show. But wait, the batman trailer took the show down to 80 minutes which basically took 10 more minutes away from the show. And everyone should have expected the Batman trailer would come at the end. Who would want a 10 minute trailer of something else thrown in the middle of their story?
As for spoilers, don't come to a forum about an episode if you don't want to know what happens in the episode.
SHSAlumni
05-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Original_Sin
I've seen it, but I know that you're going to ruin a huge part for those that haven't. Have a little f'in respect man.
those who haven't seen it wouldn't be in here, and if they are, its at their own risks
Originally posted by Original_Sin
I've seen it, but I know that you're going to ruin a huge part for those that haven't. Have a little f'in respect man.
those who haven't seen it wouldn't be in here, and if they are, its at their own risks
also on the subject of the whole antarctica thing, has no one here seen the superman movie? does no one here notice the similarity between that artic scene where Clark throws the crystal in the season finale and the artic scene where Clark throws the crystal in the movie? arghhhh!
Yes the scenes are similar. But we need a little motivation for character's actions for them to actually make sense...
I think MB makes sense. Clark was pissed at the stone. It shocked him in the caves and then transported him to the friggin arctic with only a windbreaker on.
4EverSmallville
05-20-2005, 08:32 PM
I don't think it really matters what Clark was wearing, he probably wouldn't notice the cold anyway.
I also noticed the similarities between Commencement and the first Superman movie. I don't recall if the crystal actually pointed the direction like it did in Commencement, but with any luck, we'll see the Fortress similarly to the way it was in the movie.
I know that it would not affect Clark.. but what if someone is up there exploring and sees him with only a windbreaker.. they'll be bound to ask questions. The crystal might have blown Clarks cover.
Crap someone said before I did.
Whoa! Unbreakable Lex?!
You have been missed my friend.
-cs™
opera_ghost
05-20-2005, 09:41 PM
on avg.
Most 60 minute tv shows are 45 minutes and some change in length... so that's 3/4 time allocated to broadcast....
I think the length of this episode ended up being nearly a full hour of run time.. add another 5 minutes of commercial time... and you end up with an hour and 20 minutes of airtime with advertising... then Warner Bros gets to plug their upcoming batman movie hoping that an aggressive advertising campaign will allow lightning to strike twice.
babyface
05-24-2005, 11:51 AM
I thought Clark may have been angry with the stones and Jor-El, but there was more to it than anger. He knows he can't just throw the stone away, and if he tried, he'd be one of the best persons to go retrieve it anyway (I think mechanical penguin wins this one). I felt, considering Clark threw the stone, and watched it, and the way the flight of the stone was followed by camera (cough, digitally wrought), that Clark just "knew" he needed to throw it. For viewer's sake, it was definitely the best possible choice.
So, partially out of anger, feeling helpless (ironic that Mr. Helpless Power Hungry Jedi was appearing on screen the next day), Clark, in a way, agrees with the stone for the first time, as it gives him an outlet to his anger. As he throws it, he realizes he's doing the proper thing (not quite as proper as bringing his gardening shovel to bury it, but it gets the job done) throwing the stone out into the ice.
dastranger
05-24-2005, 01:32 PM
Just a point of clarification, in Superman: The Movie. FOS is actually in the North pole. In the comics (I believe this change happened recently), did it switch to Antartica.
The Stranger
Little Clarky
05-24-2005, 01:33 PM
Yeah, I think it was like a compass too. I was floating pointing towards where he through it. It also looked like it was floating towards it anyway. So he just threw it to make it quicker.
zanos
05-24-2005, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by 007craft
Wouldent one assume its of valuable impotance? And how did he get teleported to antartica?
and how did lana survive the crash? thats impossible.
I also thought the show would be 90 mins? it was only like 63 mins.
Because that's what Clark did in Superman the Movie.
opera_ghost
05-25-2005, 04:30 PM
who ever said it was antartica??
He's neighor's with Santa Clause at the north pole.
"North Miss Techmocker, North, North, North, NORTH!!"
avidreader
05-25-2005, 04:43 PM
He threw it in the direction that he did because when it floated it pointed that way.
He threw it, because his instincts told him to (and it was a great way to honor the movie)
I do not think he had a look of anger on his face, it was more a look of determination.
Superdan13
05-25-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by arachkid
Hm. Common sense dictates if you haven't seen an episode, don't enter the forum for it on the night it airs?
Step one, he clicks on episode discussions - so he knows the forums will be discussing episodes. Step two, he enters 4-22 "Commencement", knowing full and well that all discussion in this particular forum will be about that episode.
Stay out if you've not seen it, or deal with the consequences.
I agree it only spoils it if you haven't watched it, but how can you discuss it if you haven't watched it, so you must be looking to see what has happened and if it 'spoils' the show for you then tough poo. It's like reading the script for a film then going to see it and gutted you knew what happens.
DarkJustice
05-25-2005, 07:44 PM
The way i read the whole ending was as most have said a tribute to the old donor movie but more than just that. In the old movie I believe the green crystal guided clark to the north pole after a long long journey. Then it sort of spoke or told him what to do with it so he threw it into the ice and it built the fortress. The way it seemed in the finale was that it was talking to him when he created it so he grabbed it. Then he was transported to the snow with a look of wonder or amazement then it started to float away and seemed as if it was talking to him pointing in the direction it needed to go. So he grabbed it and through frustration of not knowing what was going on or determination to get it over with he threw it back in the direction it was already heading. The way it ended was with the crystal flying to the screen in the exact symbol shape that would later be known as the El family crest.
As for the fortress I hope they make it look more like the comics show it looking now as compared to the original donor films. The way it is in the comics is more like it is hidden in the snow and beneath the ground so that no one would be able to find it. Clark usually flies under the ice and swims inside the fortress. Then it's huge almost like a small city with sciene areas, a zoo, museums and so on. Whatever the reason in creating it is in the writers mind it will probably just be a refuge that clark can run away to and learn more about his birth place and the history of krypton to the best of his knowledge.
Jigga
05-26-2005, 01:33 AM
Yes, total homage to Superman I. Like the comics and movies, the reasons for tossing the stone don't have to be the same. In the movie, I believe he tosses it because he's frustrated, mad, and angry because his dad dies and he knows he has all these amazing powers and has no clue to why he has them. In Smallville, I see him tossing it because the crystal kind of motions that way, actually started to fly in that direction, so Clark is curious and gives it a nudge .
Schwinn2010
05-26-2005, 08:18 PM
I really thought his look was more like "get out of my sight! i'm sick of you messing up my life!" Although I suppose I should expect some sort of grunt or something when he threw it, if that was the case.
While I will agree the stone seemed to be pointing that way, it's also the way Clark was already facing, so it makes more sense to grab the stone and throw it that way as it would to turn around.
The other thing I bet Clark was thinking was, "How the hell am I going to get home now???"
DarkJustice
05-26-2005, 08:46 PM
I think when the stone started to fly away on its own it kinda swung around until it pointed directly in the one direction and then started to slowly move away and thats when clark grabbed it.
Did anyone else notice the "real" crystal Tom Welling was holding when he appeared in the ice it looked like a big piece of purple plastic hehe.
Money Marc 11
05-27-2005, 11:01 PM
When i saw him grab it and throw the crystal I was all like... :confused: 'How does he know to do that?' I guess watching the movie makes it more understandable.
But if a crystal floated in front of me and pointed somewhere, i'd prolly walk towards that direction rather than throw. Then notice it wasn't following so then i would start poking the crystal or something. This thread did enough to answer my question.
Smllvlle08
05-28-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by SuperToad
he threw it because he was meant to. It will open the Fortress of Solitude in the Season Premiere.
I was pissed that there was no Batman footage shown on the ASN channel (the 7pm EST start time)
Thank you for actually answering the question of why he threw it, everyone else was arguing about the time differences
So anyways... What is the Fortress of Solitude though?
DarkJustice
05-29-2005, 05:43 AM
The fortress is like his second home, the place he can go to be by himself. Hence the name "Fortress of Solitude". Johnathan Kent used to call the loft in the barn Clark's fortress of solitude so i wonder if thats how they are going to have clark name the place, or if by chance Jor El just happens to name it the same thing Clark's Earth father named his hide out.
Anyway in the comics it's a pretty interesting place. Its pretty huge. He uses it to learn about his kryptonian heritage as the place is built entirely with Kryptonian technology and is a place where he stores anything he finds. He has a museum of weapons and aliens, a zoo where he keeps random creatures from different worlds and dimensions. A tiny world in a glass jar called Kandor, where the people living there believe superman is their God. A science center, giant kryptonian computers, some kryptonian style robots that help him out with things. And Usually a giant statue/hologram of Jor El and Lara holding Krypton above them.
It's pretty equivalent to the Bat Cave for Batman except not so dark and damp hehe.
this thread is about the epsiode commencement so you can talk aboot anything that happens in it. you dont have to worry about it being a spoiler because people will release that there will be discussions about this episode. so if they havent seen it they wont come into it .
Superdan13
05-30-2005, 03:43 AM
wel said Ajax
-ronald-
05-30-2005, 09:19 AM
I don't see what the confusion is all about - he threw it because he was MEANT to. Just like he knew the dream was a warning, just like a million other times he's 'just done something' - he feels it, because he has a destiny.
old guy
05-31-2005, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by fa8362
I don't think anyone should be looking to that awful "Superman" movie for inspiration. That movie was so awful, Brando tried to pay the studio to remove his scenes.
I disagree with you. I see nothing wrong with paying homage to Superman the Movie. I think it was a great movie, the classic superhero movie. Saw it in the theaters on opening night - a magical experience indeed.
Now if you want to say that Superman 4 was awful, I wouldn't argue with you at all...
opera_ghost
06-05-2005, 10:59 PM
Personally, I think it was probably the best movie based off a comic book property up to the time it was done.
Superman 2, I felt was about as good.. as the original... not often accomplished with a sequel. Though, the director of the first had it originated as two parts of the same story. *Until they yanked him off of it.*
3 and 4.... well, they weren't the 'best' I'd have to agree.
But, if Superman wouldn't have been sucessful... and quite frankly as good as it was... there would have been no Batman (The original with Jack Nicholson... no "Batman and Robin was crap" references please.. I know it was crap.)
And then there was the Original Crow. (Good movie.. but I think it's dear to so many people because of sympathy for Brandon.)...
Then we got to suffer through other movies that didn't quite deliver until Xmen.... And it wasn't 'perfect'....
Then we got Spiderman.
Remember, digital effects help a great deal... but Superman the Original movie was still a good story.. I think it'll be interesting to see what is done by Bryan in the upcoming movie.
(Side comment.... Brandon Routhe.... get your @$$ into a gym please... you need muscle tone.)
solution74
06-12-2005, 01:29 PM
By visiting Superman history, this question can be answered. Although in ABC's Smallville, the time period is slightly different, the happenings are going to be the same. The 'stone' or 'crystal' is a piece of 'technology' so to speak from Krypton. Traditionally, what happens is that Clark throws the stone into the side of a snow covered mountain. The crystal begins to grow, eventually forming the Fortress of Solitude. The Fortress of Solitude is supposed to be located in a 'desolate' location so that no one will ever find it, of course in the year 2005, you would think satellites could see the Fortress, unless some form of Kryptonian technology protects it. The fortress is filled with all sorts of various technologies from Clarks home planet.
So, to answer your question, 'why' he throws it I guess we do not know, but the result of him throwing it is that when it lands, the crystal grows and forms the Fortress of Solitude. This brings about another important question. How will Clark travel back and forth from the Fortress to Smallville, or Metropolis? I doubt that he will be running, which will mean that Clark will again learn how to fly, and begin using flight as his primary mode of transportation
I apologize, I was answering the first question when I answered this.. New to the forums.
Originally posted by Jigga
Yes, total homage to Superman I. Like the comics and movies, the reasons for tossing the stone don't have to be the same. In the movie, I believe he tosses it because he's frustrated, mad, and angry because his dad dies and he knows he has all these amazing powers and has no clue to why he has them. In Smallville, I see him tossing it because the crystal kind of motions that way, actually started to fly in that direction, so Clark is curious and gives it a nudge .
Do we know that Jonathan dies for sure?
DarkJustice
06-13-2005, 01:18 AM
Johnathan shouldnt die anymore. In the comics after 1986 when they redid everything Johnathan lives a happy normal life...sorta. But he did almost die at one point, and he still has the weak heart condition that he originally had in the ooold old comics. But if you look at the comic for guidance then he should not die. If the writers wanna change anything on their own then he may die but I doubt it.
Superdan13
06-13-2005, 02:30 PM
I know Batman and Robin was crap, why change the Batman, Val Kilmer although not the best Batman was better than ladies man Mr 'ER' Clooney, him and Bruce were the same person. What was with the Batmobile? So much for Dark Knight, it looked morel like a disco mobile with a built in nuclear reactor, the same could be said for the Batmobile in Batman Forever, but atleast he could take his 'lady' friend out and it had a roof, but it didn't look too sturdy. Batman begins, hopefuly, might be as good as Batman with Michael Keaton, although with it being a 12 I doubt it will be as dark, which to me was the best part. They look like they have sold out, again, with the Batman franchise.
roman1967
06-15-2005, 12:55 AM
To me, Clark looked pissed when he threw the stone. It started to float off by itself and he just grabbed it and threw it. There was no ryhme nor reason behind it that I could see.
Yes, it was a good homage to the movie. But it wasn't believable to me in Smallville.
Jephael
06-15-2005, 10:36 PM
I was just watching that scene last weekend and I noticed the frustration in his eyes.
It's kind of funny because I've sort of been having that kind of feeling lately myself so in a way I can relate to how he feels.
i assumed cark threw the crystal because it was pointing in a certain direction so clark threw it ware it was pointing to, clark also look a bit annoyed/angary so he may of thrown it in fustration witch would make sense youve been told to find 3 crystals in order to save the world and then you get transported to a remote cold empty part of the world.
atrufan14
06-23-2005, 09:14 AM
i agree with ajax. i thought that the stone was pointing the way that it needed to go. although when i watched the ep the first time (from england and it was aired twice) i thought he was stupid because the stone was pointing the way home - i was wrong! he probab;y did throw the stone cuz of the FOS but tom welling says he doesnt want clark to be superman in the show so i dont think that he'll become him in Smallville.
SmallvilleDieHard10
09-23-2005, 12:20 PM
I personally think that the producers of the show had Clark throw the stone as an homage to the movies. At the time that they came out, it pushed Superman into an American Icon, even more than the comics did.
What better way to say thanks for the memories to Christopher Reeve and the first Superman movie than to emulate it. You know what they always say, "Copying is the sincerest form of flattery," or something like that, lol.
Jephael
09-24-2005, 10:17 PM
Actually, the line goes "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
atrufan14
09-25-2005, 04:01 AM
:lol:
supergirl_1095
09-28-2005, 07:26 PM
I agree with the ppl who said it was out of frustration. He was upset because he could'nt stop the meteor in time, and that he was transported to some freezing place, thats why i think he threw it.
thmallville
10-07-2005, 02:11 PM
I, for one, am completely confused. I don't see the frustration in his eyes, and i don't know why he chucks the thing. Maye his "superman consience" told him to. I don't know.
Jephael
10-07-2005, 04:29 PM
You've got a good point there. I mean I don't even know why this is still being discussed anyway.
We've gone way passed this scene and are already 2 eps into the new season.
thmallville
10-08-2005, 07:16 PM
Si, senor, i agree. OK, EVERYBODY, LET'S DROP THIS. IT WAS LIKE 3 MONTHS AGO.
atrufan14
10-09-2005, 03:14 AM
i think that the question has been answered already :lol:
goldylocks_k
10-16-2005, 06:24 AM
I thought he threw it because it pointed in the direction. It was also a homage to the superman movies. I thought that was kind of obvious.
Can you imagine what would have happened if Clark hadn't put the three stones together? They would have been transported to Atractica (or something like that lol)
neo_nate
10-21-2005, 10:46 PM
i agree
Magus
10-30-2005, 11:42 AM
It was paying homage to the scene in the 1st supes movie. Good way of connecting them.
Jephael
10-30-2005, 11:56 AM
Um, we settled this like 2 dozen times already! Plus like I said before, I really think it's time this thread got moved to the "Past Episode" section of this forum.
pLaYb0y
11-05-2005, 06:01 AM
I don't care why that happend. I loved it anyway. :D
UpandAtom
11-21-2005, 02:33 PM
Clark threw it because it was pointing in the direction it wanted him to throw it in.
But I think the way he threw it was more out of anger than anything.
It was a good cliffhanger, BTW.
photogirl
11-22-2005, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by 007craft
I also thought the show would be 90 mins? it was only like 63 mins. [/B]
Actually it was only 52 min. long without the batman preview and commercials. I found it to be a rip off.
atrufan14
11-23-2005, 01:34 PM
wow - this thread's been bumped again. I think we've answered the question by now :lol:
Jephael
11-23-2005, 01:38 PM
That's what I've been saying for months now! Why doesn't anyone just lock this stupid topic already for God sakes?!
atrufan14
11-23-2005, 02:10 PM
:rotfl: couldn't agree with you more!
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