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axisoftime

04-14-2005, 06:54 PM

I just read that this movie is at least 4-5 years away.Peter Jackson is suing New Line over back royalties-and theres still other legalities to work out.He said hed like to have Ian Mckellin reprise his Gandalf role-but could he play a much younger Gandalf-after aging another 5 years?
In some ways the Hobbit is better then the other LOTR books.Its more lighthearted for 1 thing.Some of the dwarves are very funny.And Bilbo Baggins is an excellent 'fish out of water'character.Supposedly J.R.R.Tolkien-a professor of literature-was grading papers when he came across a blank page and wrote 'In a hole-lived a hobbit'-which became the opening line of the book.He was encouraged by his nephews/nieces who kept asking to hear more about hobbits.And the ending with Smaug-the dragon-is so well wriitten-I remeber when I first read it,it was like I was right there in the 'dragons lair'.

Sierra-san

04-14-2005, 08:10 PM

I love LOTR, including the Hobbit. I can't wait to see the movie.

DarkseidX

04-14-2005, 08:46 PM

I remember reading the hobbit the first time. It was a great read.

I hope the movie look up to the book's potential.

greenshady

04-14-2005, 08:50 PM

I loved The Hobbit. I never read the Lord of the Rings, just saw the movie. I'm not sure how dead on they were to the books. But, I heard they were pretty close. I'd love to The Hobbit as a movie though.

Queen_Sarah

04-14-2005, 09:03 PM

i remember having to read that book in english @ school and i hated it LOL

F-Stop Blues

04-15-2005, 12:03 AM

I personally like LOTR better but you have to read the hobbit before you read LOTR. Im positive they will make this movie sooner than later and the reason for that is 11 academy awards and over 1 billion dollars worldwide.

Slade

04-15-2005, 03:17 AM

I actually liked The Hobbit more than LOTR. Why? Well, because it's a lot more light-hearted and I love how it was written.

Plays With Squirrels

04-15-2005, 04:04 AM

The precious is my bling-bling.

M.D.

04-15-2005, 10:32 AM

My favorite Hobbit memory - The Lenard Nimoy Song!
Bilbo (Bilbo) Baggins - the greatest little hobbit of them all. Hee.

"Much Younger Ganldalf?" Gandalf is 2000 years old in the LOTR books.. how much different is 1850 in the Hobbit?

Its gonna rock either way.. as a kids movie or an R.

Slade

04-15-2005, 11:03 AM

It will probably be pg or pg-13. Definately not R.

angelfire east

04-15-2005, 05:32 PM

if the LOTR was PM-13 so will the Hobbit. I can't wait till it a moive. I loved the book, I also love LOTR's books, and love what Peter Jackson did with them for the moive. I'm not worried about the 5 year age different in Ian Mckellin, because I thought Gandalf aways looked the same, and I'm sure with make up, and only a few years age it wouldn't a different.

Plays With Squirrels

04-15-2005, 05:59 PM

I don't think it will be PG-13 like LOTR. There really wasn't any violence in it other than The Battle of the Seven Armies. Which you really only knew it was happening because Bilbo could see Lake Town down at the bottom of the mountain. It pretty much stuck with Bilbo and the dwarves up near Smaug.

It has nowhere near the violence amount as LOTR, so I'd go with a PG.

axisoftime

04-15-2005, 06:16 PM

Depends on how much they play some things up however.Maybe trying to make it more adult-they will show more of the battle,such as Thorin being mortaly wounded.Or when Smaug attacks Lake Town,they can really show alot of death and destruction if they want to.
The time between the Hobbit and the Fellowship of the Ring is about 60 years-and yeh,Gandalf being 2000 yrs old,its really not that much time-but Ian will have aged considerably-can they make him look and sound younger?
Ive seen that Leonard Nimoy 'Bilbo Baggins' video-hilarious!Wonder if its online somewhere?

Daphne

04-16-2005, 11:57 AM

I just wish they could have made The Hobbit before LOTR. I loved all the books and all of the movies. But like Star Wars, I'd rather see them in order.
Leonard Nimoy's Bilbo Baggins is great! And I seem to remember watching it online somewhere. Google it.

axisoftime

04-16-2005, 05:46 PM

Well,I didnt google it,but I put it into Yahoos search and a site that was showing it-said it had to stop for legal reasons-but added to keep checking back-they were trying to work it out.
Yeh-the Hobbit movie should have been made 1st.But they didnt have the rights at the time-and like I stated-they still have issues to work out.

wdwchipmunk

04-16-2005, 06:15 PM

Certainly it will be worth a viewing -- while LOTR didn't stay *exactly* to the book, it was close enough to please even me, and I'm an incredibly hardcore, don't mess with my stories kinda girl (you know -- the one who always points out the differences between the movies and the book/comic/original source material) so I think I would trust Peter to do justice to "The Hobbit" and make only the necessary changes to make it flow well in filmed media.

I think it was actually a smart move to make the LOTR films first, they are more epic and more involved than "The Hobbit" and I think maybe "The Hobbit" would have been viewed as more of a "niche" film, not really appealing to that broad of an audience. Having set up a decent fanbase, it will do better now, I think, than if it had been released first.

axisoftime

04-16-2005, 06:37 PM

I know what u mean-when I first saw the Fellowship of the Ring,I was dissapointed.While i enjoyed it-I thought they left to much out.Where was Tom Bombadil?How can they cut him out?And they butchered other scenes like when the council meets-or at the Prancing Pony.But then later on ,I began to appreaciate more what a task it is trying to put the story on film.Though I would have done a few things differently And yeh-having LOTR come out first,definately built a huge fanbase for the Hobbit.

wdwchipmunk

04-16-2005, 07:27 PM

I guess I just looked at it more of a "nature of the beast" -- as much as hardcore fans would like to see it filmed word for word, it's just not possible. And to film TTT exactly like the book would have made for long stretches of boring, boring film. Peter chose judiciously and made sure that the major events were there, even if they did have to be changed to keep the flow. So I have no fear that he will do the same for "The Hobbit" when the time comes.

And I also missed Tom Bombadil -- and was very upset that there were no mushrooms! :)

axisoftime

04-17-2005, 05:48 PM

I had figured TTT would be the worst of the 3 films-but it turned out to be pretty good.And Gollum was done so well-glad they just didnt use some guy in makeup.They really didnt have to show the finding of the ring at the start of ROTK-that should have been saved for the Hobbit movie.They should have shown the Gandalf-Sauraman confrontation.

Sierra-san

04-17-2005, 05:59 PM

If anyone has the extended editions, it explains why they cut out scenes within each movie.

Plays With Squirrels

04-18-2005, 05:58 AM

I missed Tom Bombadil too. He was my favorite character from Fellowship.

Did anyone see the fan animation with Boromir?

Boromir: You can't just go walking into Mordor!

Frodo: Umm, yeah you can.

Boromir: No you can't. You need ninjas, and wizards... and ninja wizards!

Gandalf: *looks at Boromir*

Sierra-san

04-18-2005, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Plays With Squirrels
I missed Tom Bombadil too. He was my favorite character from Fellowship.

Did anyone see the fan animation with Boromir?

Boromir: You can't just go walking into Mordor!

Frodo: Umm, yeah you can.

Boromir: No you can't. You need ninjas, and wizards... and ninja wizards!

Gandalf: *looks at Boromir*

No. But that sound funny. :lol:

Indigo

04-18-2005, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by M.D.
"Much Younger Ganldalf?" Gandalf is 2000 years old in the LOTR books.. how much different is 1850 in the Hobbit?

Olorin, aka Mithrandir, aka Gandalf, was one of the Maiar, which means he was literally alive before the world was created, and was one of those who sang everything into existence. He, like the other Wizards, were sent by Manwe, the Lord of the Ainur, to inspire the peoples of Middle-Earth to stop Sauron (who was also one of the Maiar). Gandalf was literally immortal... his spirit anyhow. When Gandalf the Grey was killed in Moria, he was sent back with a version upgrade (Gandalf the White, aka Gandalf 2.0).

The human-shaped form, or fana, that Gandalf inhabited while on Middle-Earth looked like a human man, and after inhabiting it for a little over two millenia, he found himself acting and feeling like a human man - which he never was. That's one reason why Gandalf the White lacks the frailties and idiosyncracies of Gandalf the Grey.

Anyhow, my point, which was nearly lost in the digression there, was that Gandalf wasn't really any younger in the Hobbit than he was in LotR, and would look pretty much exactly the same.

axisoftime

04-18-2005, 07:24 PM

Very interesting-have to admit I didnt know some of that.In 'The Fellowship' Frodo would notice how much 'older' Gandalf looked-more bent,wrinkles etc-but yes,he pretty much always looked the same.

Plays With Squirrels

04-18-2005, 07:28 PM

Wasn't he Gandalf the Brown in The Hobbit? Or when was that? I remember a reference to that. Forgive me, I haven't read it in a while.

axisoftime

04-18-2005, 07:33 PM

No he was Gandalf the Grey in the Hobbit and the 1st half of LOTR-youre thinking of his 'cousin' Rhadagast the brown.

Plays With Squirrels

04-18-2005, 07:38 PM

That's probably what I'm thinking about. I haven't read it since Thanksgiving break of my senior year in high school.

axisoftime

04-18-2005, 07:44 PM

Not much is said about Radagast in LOTR.Hes only mentioned a few times-hes a lesser wizard then Gandalf or sarauman-and is supposed to be able to communicate well with animals-thats all I know about him-maybe someone else knows more.

Indigo

04-19-2005, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by axisoftime
Not much is said about Radagast in LOTR.Hes only mentioned a few times-hes a lesser wizard then Gandalf or sarauman-and is supposed to be able to communicate well with animals-thats all I know about him-maybe someone else knows more.

Radagast the Brown failed in his mission, as did four of the five Wizards (the number five wasn't really finalized as such, and Tolkien's notes on the Wizards were pretty conflicting... but Saruman makes a reference to the "Rods of the Five Wizards", so there you are).

The Five Istari were Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, Alatar, and Pallando.

Gandalf, as we know, succeeded in his quest. He led the free peoples of Middle-Earth to stop Sauron. He was sent to inspire, not to fight himself... which was why he withheld his power and only rarely used his magic. After Sauron was destroyed, Gandalf went back to the Blessed Lands.

Saruman yielded to the lust for power. He started by working against Sauron, even leading the Council of the Wise, but then decided he'd rather BE Sauron than defeat him. That did not work out exactly as he hoped, and Saruman was of course killed by Wormtongue on the front steps of Bag End.

Radagast, who was favored of Yavanna, shared her love for the earth and the growing things, and never really accomplished much that we hear of. He did not apparently pursue his mission to stop Sauron much, if at all. He talked to animals, and dwelt in Southern Mirkwood. His final fate is unknown.

The other two Istari weren't named in any published works by J.R.R.T., but were listed in Tolkien's notes (published by his son Christopher in the Unfinished Works series) as Alatar and Pallando. They apparently left for the Eastern parts of Middle-Earth soon after arriving, and never enter into any of the stories Tolkien told. Whether they worked against Sauron or not isn't apparent, but the bulk of the conflict against Sauron took place in Northwestern Middle-Earth... and these two weren't even in the general area. What caused them to quit their mission is not clear.

Lexgirl33

09-08-2006, 10:03 PM

:eek: I hope its true!!

From TheOneRing.Net:

The BIG news has finally hit. A Ringer Spy who was recently in the New York offices of New Line Cinema has reported that they clearly saw 'The Hobbit' on the film schedule for 2007. Here's what the spy had to say:
"Please leave my email anonymous as I have some very exciting news to report. I was in New Line's NY offices to discuss upcoming projects when I clearly saw something very intriguing on a year planner. 'The Hobbit' was clearly marked on what looked like July 2007. I couldn't exactly take a moment to investigate the calendar with my audience in the room, but it definitely said 'The Hobbit'. Lets hope this is a PJ project!"

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/1/1157077589

Lexgirl33

09-10-2006, 10:52 PM

I think I have just gone to heaven!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D

MGM to Unveil The Hobbit!

9/10/06, 5:33 pm EST - Xoanon

Source: Variety (via comingsoon.net): In a Variety article talking about MGM's move back into the tentpole business, the trade mentions a few highly-anticipated projects that are in the works:
Over the next few years, MGM is planning to release half a dozen films, some in the $150 million to $200 million-plus range. Studio is ready to unveil such high-profile projects as "Terminator 4"; one or two installments of "The Hobbit," which Sloan hopes will be directed by Peter Jackson; and a sequel to "The Thomas Crown Affair" with Pierce Brosnan.

It has already announced a "Pink Panther" sequel and the next 007 pic "Bond 22," due out in November 2008. "Rocky Balboa" unspools in February.

The pics are all franchises that MGM owns the rights to through its 4,000-title library. The goal is to release two or three tentpoles a year, all of which will be made with financial partners, including Wall Street money or other studios.

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16424

axisoftime

09-16-2006, 01:43 PM

Yeh this is good news...however;

Jacksons film company has said neither them or Jackson has been contacted
Jackson has 3 upcoming projects he is either directing or producing
If he dosent do it will it be done right?If he does do it will it be done right?While I really like the LOTR films-I didnt like what was changed and taken out-I realize it couldnt be 4 hour films-but some stuff like no Bombadill or cutting so much of the council meeting was kinda bad
A 2 part Hobbit?Wonder where they would cut it off at-after they are captured by the Elvs in Mirkwood?
I would love to see Smaug-now thats a dragon.

Lexgirl33

09-18-2006, 02:51 PM

Yup it seems unlikly that PJ will do it if they expect to release it within the next 2 years. Plus its MGM not New Line so I don't think it will be as good as it should be. If PJ doesnt direct it then I am not sure I could stand to watch it. Im so used to his Middle Earth I think it wouldn't be right if it was directed by another.

I think if Jackson does direct the movie, it will be done right. Sure there are things added in the movie and taken out that werent in the book, but this is hollywood and its for entertainment purposes. Whatever sells and if that means not keeping to the book 100% then they will do it.

Now about the 2 parter..I wouldnt mind but I feel that keeping it one film will be fine. Im sure it will be a 3 hr movie like the rest but it just doesnt seem right making a 2 part prequal. Though I guess thats what SW did but see how they turned out?

I agree with you..I would love to see Smaug and maybe Serkis could be both Smeagol and Smaug..now that would be cool, but a lot of work for him.

amus525

09-23-2006, 06:58 AM

I just got the newest issue of EW magazine and it said that New Lines has the rights to a Hobbit movie and MGM just has the rights for the hobbit.

also PJ said that he is interested in directing a hobbit movie and sorta likes the idea of it being a two part movie. he also says that MGM hasnt even tried to get ahold of him.

I personnaly wouldnt like it if anyone else directs it and if someone does i could only hope he would make it good. I dont know if i like the idea of it being two parts. and SW wasnt based on books and the hobbit is... so if it is two parts i hope it wont be like the SW prequels even though i still liked them but not as much as the original trilogy.

Lexgirl33

09-24-2006, 09:38 AM

Yeah i recently read this article.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30085

Pretty much stating how if MGM wants PJ to do it, they need to give him a call about it and plan soon so his schedule doesnt get filled up.

It seems the only reason they would do a 2 part movie is to make more money. I mean the Hobbit isnt exactly as long and detailed as the trilogy. He also said that he wants as many characters back as possible and would probably fit in Arwen because after all she is an elf and has been living for a loonngg time.

Yeah the law suit thing is confusing. Basically I think what it is

"As some might know, the rights to THE HOBBIT are kind of jumbled. If I have it right, MGM owns the distribution rights, yet somehow New Line owns the rights to make the film. Meaning New Line could make the movie, but couldn't release it. I'm thinking MGM is trying to partner with New Line in order to do this thing, which would be really cool if I don't say so myself. I'd love to see Smaug realized in the Peter Jackson LOTR universe."

http://derhobbit-film.de/indexengl.shtml

axisoftime

09-24-2006, 01:38 PM

I think Jackson would do a good job on Smaug.While I disagree with some of his his storyline choices he is very good at detail ie Middle Earth-King Kong etc.Serkis could do both Gollum and Smaug scince Gollum is only in 1 chapter and Smaug basically in 2.

A 2 part Hobbit could work if they play up the battle of 5 armies at the end.Yes it probably would be done for the money-but Id like to think also it would be done to do it right.

Im pretty sure theyd have to get a new Bilbo-the guy who played him in LOTR is close to 60 I think.Be nice if they could get
Ian Mckellean again but hes got to be over 70 and while I know Gandalf is very old he still should appear younger in the Hobbit imo.

Lexgirl33

09-25-2006, 12:52 PM

I agree with you, He would do an excellent job with Smaug. A two part Hobbit would be great to see though, that means Pete would jus be adding stuff to the movie, not in the book.. But if it fits, im okay with it.

I think Ian Holm and Ian MacKellean should both appear. They could defiantly make them look younger.

Ketchup

10-10-2006, 04:47 PM

What Jackson should do is read the Silmarillion and make another trilogy based on the first war against Sauron.

ginnyfan

10-12-2006, 06:23 PM

Wow! Peter Jackson + JRR Tolkein = Magic! I'm so excited. I hope they don't do this without him. :)

Glancing over the posts... I wonder if there are things from the LOTR timeline that could be included to flesh out the book. So we have a larger perspective than just the dwarves and bilbo... but however they do it... It'll be wonderful. Yay! :D

Lexgirl33

10-17-2006, 09:31 PM

Just read this news...

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1161131976

So looks like we will probably have to wait...whats seems like years if they dont get their cr@p together.. if we want PJ :(

Lexgirl33

10-26-2006, 09:53 PM

More news...so Looks like if we ever get to these films there will be 2!

From the main page on theonering.net

"MGM Makes More Plans for Terminator 4 and The Hobbit

10/26/06, 2:13 pm EST - Xoanon
From The Hollywood Reporter (via movieweb.com): Sands hopes to resuscitate MGM with several big new films. He's packaging the fourth "Terminator" film -- it will be titled "Terminator blah blah, not Four," Sands joked -- with a new star likely to fill the Arnold Schwarzenegger role. "It's like the "Batman" or "Superman" franchise in that it lends itself to having different actors in the roles," he said.

Sands is in discussions with New Line Cinema to get the rights to produce two prequel films to "The Lord of the Rings" series, based on J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, he said. Other projects he mentioned include a sequel to "The Thomas Crown Affair," set to star Pierce Brosnan, and a remake of "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels", according to The Hollywood Reporter. "

Lexgirl33

11-14-2006, 07:01 PM

Well I am all alone about this movie :lol: who cares I have to share news!!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117953908.html?categoryid=19&cs=1

"As for "The Hobbit," Sloan confirmed MGM was in talks with Peter Jackson to make two movies based on J.R.R. Tolkein's "prequel" to "The Lord of the Rings."

However, making the film is contingent on negotiations with New Line, which owns the right to produce "The Hobbit" (MGM owns only the right to distribute the films). And people close to Jackson say that until his ongoing lawsuit with New Line -- over monies he says are owed him from the "Lord of the Rings" franchise -- is settled, a serious conversation over "The Hobbit" cannot proceed.

Even so, Sloan remains optimistic. He said the first "Hobbit" pic would be a direct adaptation of "The Hobbit," and the second would be drawn from footnotes and source material connecting "The Hobbit" with "The Lord of the Rings."

Okay so not really new news but damn, come one already with the law suit! So when these movies do happen, they are going to be kick ass! :D

axisoftime

11-15-2006, 02:06 PM

Oh your not alone on the movie Lexgirl-its just that hearing about the continuing squabbles and lawsuits is abit depressing lol.Seems like its been goin on for yrs-and as u stated above-is no closer to being resolved.They should have tried harder back when FOTR came out to resolve these differences and sign PJ -back when thet first saw what a hit it was gonna be.This may not happen for another 5 yrs the way its going.However The news about a 2nd part taken from the appendages sounds very interesting.

MidgardDragon

11-15-2006, 11:20 PM

I can't wait for The Hobbit. But, I'm very upset that they're going to do it in two parts. It just seems like money-grubbing to me. One film is more than enough to cover the one book that it will be based off of. Heck, Fellowship was a longer book and it only got one movie.

I want to go in, see Bilbo set about on his magical journey by Gandalf and the Dwarfs, and leave directly after he has taken out Smaug and returned home feeling that he has had a Grand Adventure and will never be the same.

Lexgirl33

11-19-2006, 11:07 PM

AHHH No PJ won't be making The Hobbit :(

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1163993546

They are better off not making the film now, nothing will be the same:(

1.21 gigawatts

11-19-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
AHHH No PJ won't be making The Hobbit :(

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1163993546

They are better off not making the film now, nothing will be the same:(

Good. I'm glad he won't be doing it. He's turning into George Lucas with all of his stupid expansions and re-touched graphics and releasing a million copies of everything he's done. And that's a very bad thing.

Greedo shoots first! :mad:

MidgardDragon

11-20-2006, 02:21 AM

If they can find someone who will make it in one part and pay the same respect to Tolkien and the books as PJ did to LOTR, I don't care who makes it. If it's good, great, if it's bad, oh well.

Lexgirl33

11-21-2006, 09:42 PM

^^ That it is

Rachel B

12-12-2006, 02:38 PM

^^^ I agree

Lexgirl33

12-15-2006, 12:49 PM

Well maybe this will force them to deal the lawsuit and then we can get PJ to start working on it..you never know! They suggested Sam Raimi..eck I love Spiderman but him doing The Hobbit just would not be the same. There is a lot more SFX involved and I think PJ is the only one with the talent for it.

axisoftime

12-22-2006, 01:56 PM

I dont think hed do a good job either-he mostly did horror films-and Spiderman-2 subjects much different then Tolkien.Like Singer doing X-Men then Superman-perhaps they shouldnt spread themselves too thin.I watched all 3 LOTR films back to back last week-amazing,epic-PJ did do an incredible job-he prob. is the only 1 who should do it.

last man of krypton

12-29-2006, 12:21 AM

Heh, I remember watching all three extended versions back to back a couple of years back. Almost went blind and left a permanent @$$ print in my chair, but it was worth it. :)

Lexgirl33

12-29-2006, 11:31 AM

:lol: I just recently watched it on TV. Now watching the extended is about 3 hours more..I can only image, you must have been a zombie. Though the extended are so much better than the theatrical releases IMO Definitely worth the extra time.

Lexgirl33

01-27-2007, 06:06 PM

Ugh we got some new news..

Sam Raimi considering 'The Hobbit'

1/27/07, 5:23 pm EST - maegwen
From the LA Times: In a move that would have ramifications for several major multi-nationals, and millions of fans, "Spider-Man" maestro Sam Raimi has been telling associates, as well as his corporate masters at Sony, that he is thinking of directing "The Hobbit," the prequel to J.R.R. Tolkien's masterwork, "The Lord of the Rings." At least two top-level insiders – who declined to be named -- have heard the words out of the director's mouth.

From theonering.net

Lexgirl33

10-08-2007, 08:44 AM

So now the whole story is on the cover to Entertainment Weekly!

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036782_20037403_20142132,00.html

New Line has finally payed their debt to Jackson and the Rings family..finally! So will he be making "The Hobbit"? I think theres a good chance now! :D I think when I hear the final news that he is having a big part in the movie..I might die :lol:

axisoftime

10-15-2007, 01:21 PM

That is good news-though it still is probably 3-5 years away.
Wonder if Ian will be in good enuff shape to do it.Maybe the only returning cast member will be the guy who played Elrond-and gollum of course,Perhaps they could have Liv Tyler back as Arwen but shes only mentioned a few times and I think only had a few lines.Been awile scince Ive read any of the books-I read Fellowship again after I saw the movie.U sure a big fan Lexgirl-how many times have u read the 4 books?Ive probaly read the trilogy 5-6 times and the Hobbit about 10 times

Lexgirl33

12-01-2007, 09:15 AM

I am a big fan yes...I have only read the book once. I just dont have time to sit and read but i have seen the movies a billion times no doubt. More news about PJ directing now!

http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2007/11/hot-hobbit-news-jackson-will-helm.html

how awesome!!! And its in 3D!!

Lets hope its true.

Mello Penelo

12-01-2007, 10:57 AM

I always loved The Hobbit. It was such a great story. Ahh, Lake Town. Smaug. War of the Seven Nations. :) Such a great story.

But I don't think it's absolutely necessary for Peter Jackson to direct for it to be a great film.

Lexgirl33

12-01-2007, 12:07 PM

Not necessary no, but the best choice, yes. I am sure someone else could do a great job but to get the look and feel of the LotR that PJ created to me as a fan is a big part of it. Some people might want a new style but I think that he set the standard for what Middle Earth looks like and I feel another director cant quit get that look.

Mello Penelo

12-01-2007, 01:22 PM

I'm not insulting you Lexgirl33, but I don't see what kind of "style" or "look and feel" one person can have from filming in New Zealand. If you film in the countryside, it's going to look the same.

Theshadow129x

12-01-2007, 03:07 PM

^ all too true

Lexgirl33

12-01-2007, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I'm not insulting you Lexgirl33, but I don't see what kind of "style" or "look and feel" one person can have from filming in New Zealand. If you film in the countryside, it's going to look the same.

The design team and special effects team who worked on LotR would probably not be involved if another director directed the film. So on that aspect of the film, it would be different.

Lexgirl33

12-02-2007, 07:20 PM

Now sources say its not going to be in 3D.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34942

Seriously, they need to stop messing with my mind. The studio needs to make their mind up as well as Jackson lol

axisoftime

12-04-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I'm not insulting you Lexgirl33, but I don't see what kind of "style" or "look and feel" one person can have from filming in New Zealand. If you film in the countryside, it's going to look the same.

I agree with Lexgirl-a new director can bring a whole different look/feel to it.Look for example at the Harry Potter films-take the first 2-SS and COS-with Columbus directing-then look at the 3rd with Caruso directing.Despite the same 'basic' scenery to work with he added and changed much of it-for the best imo.
Now considering the Hobbit takes place some 60 years b4 LOTR
things shouldnt look quite the same-though the Shire didnt change much for a long time-untill Sauraman took over briefly at the end of ROTK

Lexgirl33

12-05-2007, 01:55 PM

Yup any director could get the same locations its just that the directing of the film would be different, which I would hate.

Theshadow129x

12-18-2007, 09:36 AM

Hye guys i just got an update on the movie. its about time too. here you go on the link for the hobbit!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40300

axisoftime

12-18-2007, 01:04 PM

Good news for sure-and many questions to be answered-who will direct-who will star- where will part 1 end?
I would guess Andy Sirkis will do Gollum-maybe Smaug too if they go the same route.Dosent seem like Ian M could play a younger Gandalf-or that Ian B could play a younger Bilbo though I know both expressed interest years ago.The guy who played Elrond could certainly be back-perhaps Liv Tyler as Arwin though she was hardly in the Hobbit and had I think 2 lines-but as shown in LOTR they could expand her role.AS for where pt 1 ends -Id say perhaps when the elfs capture the dwarves and Bilbo sets out to free them.I hope they do justice to Smaug the Magnificent!

Lexgirl33

12-18-2007, 06:07 PM

YES THEY ARE MAKING THE HOBBIT FOR SURE!!!!!! I think I will go crazy now :lol:

thmallville

12-19-2007, 06:15 PM

:( My English teacher stopped class to fawn over this news. He got so excited, I was ashamed of him. :rotfl:

Lexgirl33

12-19-2007, 10:12 PM

:lol: :lol: Hilarious. But that is pretty damn awesome

axisoftime

12-20-2007, 01:18 PM

Yeh thats cool-was he saying 'oh my god-oh my god'?lol
Well thats certainly a huge fan for ya-but what would u do thmall
if u were teaching and suddenly heard something like Tom Welling was going to be Superman in the next movie-you might freak too.

Mello Penelo

12-20-2007, 01:44 PM

Two movies on The Hobbit? What the heck? It isn't even that long. One movie would suffice. What's left? The Silmarillion?

thmallville

12-20-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by axisoftime
Yeh thats cool-was he saying 'oh my god-oh my god'?lol
Well thats certainly a huge fan for ya-but what would u do thmall
if u were teaching and suddenly heard something like Tom Welling was going to be Superman in the next movie-you might freak too.

:rotfl: No, he was like "Is anyone in here a Peter Jackson fan? It was in the Middletown Gazette this morning that he's filming THE HOBBIT!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!"

If someone told me that I'd turn red and silently ask who TW was. :rotfl: And feign happiness.

axisoftime

12-21-2007, 12:45 PM

I know it seems a bit strange making it into 2 movies-considering
that the Hobbit is shorter then the LOTR books-but money talks lol.
Im sure theyll expand the battle of 5 armies-like Narnia expanded its battle scene-in fact I think I read that the battle in Narnia was like 2-3 pages long but they really expanded it for the film.
Plus they could show alot of Smaug destroying Laketown.
They have ways-like in Wizard of Oz-in the book in like 2 pages shes in OZ whereas in the film it takes awhile.

Lexgirl33

12-27-2007, 09:00 AM

i found this rather cool for the casting :D

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1577524/20071221/story.jhtml?rsspartner=rssYahooNewscrawler

axisoftime

12-27-2007, 11:09 AM

Thats some pretty good choices-it be interesting seeing some Harry Potter ppl in it.I didnt consider Orlando Bloom as the Elf King that would be cool too-or for at least a Legolas cameo appearence.
Still not sure If having a horror/Spiderman director is a good idea-if Jackson wont do it himself bring in somone with a different touch.

The Ninth Doctor

12-27-2007, 01:50 PM

I don't think they are actually going to split it up into two parts. Skimming through that article, it was The Hobbit and a Sequell to the Hobbit. The rumour, from way before Jackson ever had troubles with the studio, was that after the hobbit another movie would be made bridging the Hobbit and LOTR. The only chronologically important event I can think of between the two is the Rise and Fall of the Necromancer of Mirkwood, which in my opinion would make a great movie.

axisoftime

12-28-2007, 12:49 PM

Thats interesting-I hadnt heard that.I thought when Gandalf left the Dwarves and Bilbo after meeting Beorn that the business he attended to was driving out the Necromancer-and then he came back b4 the battle.Of course its been awhile scince i read the Hobbit and I cant recall much of the appendages at the end of ROTK-I do remember Thorin meeting Gandalf at the Prancing Pony to discuss going after the treasure.Seems like it will take alot of fleshing out to turn what little Tolkien wrote about the 60 yrs between the Hobbit and LOTR into a whole movie.Too bad the Hobbit wasnt done 1st and then LOTR.I read the Hobbit first-it really is the prequel to LOTR.I always wondered what would have happened if Smaug had got the ring lol.

The Ninth Doctor

12-30-2007, 03:24 PM

Ack, that's right. It did take place during the hobbit, not after. Man, I can't think of anything then that the movie could be about. Which means that it's probably going to be extreme extrapolation. And if you thought the whole Faramir taking Frodo to Osgiliath thing divided the community, wait until THAT hits.

I think that LOTR needed to be released first- it's much more epic in tone than the Hobbit, and while many will see the latter because of the former, I don't think the opposite would have been true.

Lexgirl33

01-11-2008, 09:21 PM

Great little blog by Elijah :D

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/01/11/elijah-wood-wants-to-go-back-again-to-the-hobbit

And a Staff's casting pick at Onering.net

I think hes got some good choices

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2008/01/07/28227-speculation-on-hobbit-casting/

pacofajita

01-11-2008, 09:42 PM

I think it's kind of fitting The Hobbit is being done after the Lord of The Rings series. The Hobbit was written last. :p

Lexgirl33

01-13-2008, 02:28 PM

Definitely!

axisoftime

01-14-2008, 12:57 PM

Guys-the Hobbit was wrote wayyyy b4 LOTR.The Hobbit was wrote in 1936-37-then Tolkien wrote LOTR over the next 15 years-not having the last volume of Return of the King published till 1955.It was because of the success of the Hobbit that spurred him on to do LOTR.In fact the ring as mentioned in the Hobbit was not Saurons great ring but just a magical ring that turned the wearer invisible-and Gandalf wasnt nearly the powerfull wizard he was in LOTR-even b4 he became Gandalf the White.These are a few of the things Tolkien expanded on for LOTR.

TMLS

01-14-2008, 03:53 PM

Actually, the Hobbit was written from the late 1920s onwards - and it was finally published in 1937.

Tolkein began writing LOTR just a couple of months after The Hobbit was published, and finished writing it in 1949, as axis says with ROTK being published in '55.

I really don't know where "The Hobbit was written last" came from!!!!!!

axisoftime

01-15-2008, 11:13 AM

Well unofficially yes he did start writing the Hobbit years b4 it was published in 37.He started out telling Hobbit stories to his nieces and nephews-then began writing them down-but I think he didnt really put it all together till the mid-30s.I remember reading some of the changes he made -literally right b4 publishing stated he switched the name of the leader of the dwarves from Gandalf to Thorin.I cant remember what Gandalfs name was b4 but it was something strange lol.

TMLS

01-15-2008, 11:54 AM

It's not "unofficially", it's in "The History of the Hobbit" which includes some of his 1920s outlines in it and came out last year. It's two books and a fantastic read that I thoroughly recommend - http://www.amazon.com/History-Hobbit/dp/0618968474/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200423150&sr=8-2 and http://www.amazon.com/History-Hobbit/dp/0618969195/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200423150&sr=8-3

Gandalf was originally to be called "Bladorthin".

TMLS

01-28-2008, 04:08 PM

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35428

They're reporting that Guillermo Del Toro is to be the director... if true, that would be fb!

They needed someone out of left field to do it in my view, it needs to be different to the LOTR but still have the same sense of wonder, and that could well be a bang on choice.

I am now excited for this movie again! :D

MidgardDragon

01-28-2008, 04:12 PM

As long as their "two movie deal" is doing a complete Hobbit and then doing a in-between prequel then I'm excited for The Hobbit (since I can just ignore the LOTR prequel). If they split The Hobbit itself up into two movies I'm not so excited.

Lexgirl33

01-29-2008, 07:17 PM

Midgard, I am pretty sure its going to be The Hobbit and a in-between that and the LotR. I read it somewhere but can't find the link.

Guillermo Del Toro will most likely be directing from theonering.net

I havent seen his work (Pans Labyrinth) but from the fans, I heard he was great. I have no worries. As long as PJ in involved it should be wonderful. I would have liked Peter to direct but hes just not into directing this movie at the moment.

The Ninth Doctor

02-03-2008, 08:45 PM

I thought PJ was back on it, that everyone had reconciled? Or is he in some other role this time around?

K-EL

02-03-2008, 11:17 PM

5 years away...man. I bet this movie will be awesome !

Mello Penelo

02-03-2008, 11:23 PM

Peter Jackson is not tantamount to a Hobbit movie. I think a new director is the way to go.

Lexgirl33

02-04-2008, 12:05 PM

I thought PJ was back on it, that everyone had reconciled? Or is he in some other role this time around?

He was in it, but not to direct. I am sure he will have some involvement in it, just no directing.

axisoftime

02-11-2008, 02:02 PM

Bad news-Tolkiens estate and Harper books are sueing New LIne,over non-payment from the 3 LOTR films,

"The plaintiffs seek more than $150 million in compensatory damages, unspecified punitive damages and a court order giving the Tolkien estate the right to terminate any rights New Line may have to make films based on other works by the author, including "The Hobbit."

Such an order would scuttle plans New Line has in the works to make a two-film prequel based on "The Hobbit."

Lexgirl33

02-11-2008, 09:02 PM

:lol: damn, we just can't get this movie! Maybe thats a good thing..If its set back than maybe we can get Jackson to direct?

I am sorry, those movies made so much freaking money..pay up New Line! I think the Tolkien's deserve some money, cause without J.R.R, there would be no movies. With 6 Billion world wide, does that include the mass amount of money from DVD's, CD's, props and all that crap? Probably not, so I think they owe someone some money.

The article I read didnt say anything about the Hobbit but with the situation and all, it might be switched to a different studio perhaps? It said that New Line may not produce big budget films, which I take the Hobbit will be.

From IMDB: Time Warner executives are considering folding New Line into its Warner Bros. division or keeping the brand as a separate production unit with Warner Bros. handling its distribution, the Wall Street Journal reported today (Monday), citing people familiar with the situation. The newspaper said that in either scenario, New Line would be reduced to producing low-budget films as it once did instead of blockbusters like its recent Lord of the Rings trilogy. The Journal did not indicate what would become of The Hobbit, the Lord of the Rings prequel, which New Line is scheduled to produce this year.

That being from IMDB, I don't entirely believe it. The don't really have the best track record.

axisoftime

02-12-2008, 03:56 PM

The Ninth Doctor

02-12-2008, 09:43 PM

Lexgirl33

02-13-2008, 12:35 AM

I was thinking the same thing with 6 billion, 150 mill isnt so much.I think thats just gross from the films-not including dvds etc.Im sure another company would take the Hobbit films-with a potential 4 bill gross.Youd think new line would work out a deal with everyone to cover the lawsuit with the profits from the Hobbit films.

LOL :lol: Yes you would think so. We will see where this goes. I am sure it will last a year like the one with PJ :\

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

WOW. New Line really doesn't like paying anyone it seems.

Yup they are cheap. :lol:

axisoftime

02-13-2008, 04:21 PM

Personally id be surprised if either of the 2 Hobbit films are as good as any of the LOTR films-whenever they r eventually done.They need to spruce up the Hobbit-make it more adult-stretch out the battles-and make smaug truly fearsome and intelligent.The 2nd movie-im still not sure exactly what theyre gonna do,seems like it will take alot of extrapolation to bridge the 60 yr gap between the hobbit and lotr.
Yeh it is strange how tough new line seems to be on money-didnt PJ have to put up his own money just to finish the films.

The Ninth Doctor

02-18-2008, 02:22 PM

So. New Line is out. Does that mean PJ and WETA are out too?

Lexgirl33

02-28-2008, 09:01 PM

Lets hope we get a director soon!

"A key New Line property, "The Hobbit," was stalled for years due to the court battle between Shaye and Jackson -- even though it represented a logical franchise extension of "The Lord of the Rings." Partly at the behest of MGM topper Harry Sloan (who owned half of "The Hobbit" rights and would not go forward unless Jackson was involved creatively), Shaye and Lynne buried the hatched with Jackson by settling the lawsuit a few months ago.

"The Hobbit" has Guillermo Del Toro in talks to direct, and the picture will be unaffected by the ouster of Shaye and Lynne. Though the films won't be scripted until a director is hired, and Jackson wraps "The Lovely Bones," the expectation is that the films will be ready for release for Christmas 2011 and 2012. Harry Potter will have wound down at WB by then, and the corporation will surely welcome another fantasy franchise that has an eager global audience waiting. New Line will distribute domestically, while MGM has international rights"

From..

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981598.html?categoryid=10&cs=1

So by the 2nd paragraph it sounds as if Jackson will be involved one way or the other after he is done with The Lovely Bones.

The Ninth Doctor

03-06-2008, 08:00 PM

Yeah, but new line is out. Tolkien's estate are suing them, for basicly the same thing that Jackson sued them for not too long ago.

Lexgirl33

03-08-2008, 12:12 PM

I know, lets hope they get that settle :lol: Yeah right

Some new news from the one ring.net

"This tends to confirm what previous coverage has hinted: that New Line will be allowed to make The Hobbit itself (in a co-production with MGM) rather than turning the project over to Warner Bros. This, coupled with Anne Thompson’s recent remarks that Mark Ordesky will likely supervise The Hobbit and its untitled companion film, suggests that fans may have less to worry about than they thought. Time Warner and Warner Bros. may recognize that it’s best not to tamper with success. Keeping the circumstances for this new project as close to those of the LOTR trilogy as possible offers the best chance for lightning to strike twice."

So with Mark Ordesky supervising, the fans should get what they want considering he was involved with the LotR.

The Ninth Doctor

03-09-2008, 09:26 PM

That's definately good news.

Lexgirl33

03-13-2008, 08:40 PM

For sure

An article here says the hobbit is supposed to start shooting next year. Here's to hoping!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/13/harry.potter.ap/index.html

axisoftime

03-28-2008, 08:36 AM

WELLINGTON, New Zealand - Ian McKellen, who played Gandalf the Wizard in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, is hoping to reprise the role in another tale from Middle Earth.
A fan asked McKellen on the actor's official Web site if he would play the role of Gandalf in "The Hobbit," which is being produced by Peter Jackson, director of the "Rings" trilogy.

"Yes, I will, if Peter Jackson and I have anything to do with it, he being the producer and me being, on the whole, a very lucky actor," McKellen, 68, said in a reply dated Wednesday.

Jackson reached a deal with New Line Cinema late last year to make two films of J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned prequel to the blockbuster "Rings" trilogy. Jackson will serve as executive producer for the "The Hobbit" movies.

Another fan asked: "Have you been approached yet by Peter Jackson or anyone else" to play the ancient Wizard?"

McKellen replied: "Encouragingly, Peter and (partner) Fran Walsh have told me they couldn't imagine `The Hobbit' without their original Gandalf."

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Lexgirl33

03-28-2008, 12:20 PM

Yeah I read that elsewhere :D Love that he will be back most likely!

Lexgirl33

04-13-2008, 07:35 PM

more news...and getting closer! :D

from the one ring.net

Q: So is The Hobbit with GDT official?

GDT: Whew- Not yet. BUT there has been a lot of movement. And for the last few weeks there has been a lot of creative / cast / crew / visual talks and agreements and we have witnessed great progress in areas that I cannot disclose or that have already leaked from other sources. I am dying to share news but I have to be patient and wait until the papers are done and my attachment is real. Nevertheless- a LOT of progress in defining the films, their cast and crew. And, may I add, we are all happily in synch about all creative aspects so far and all willing and eager to move forth. I cannot say more but if all´s well the time will come To talk of many things: Of shoes — and ships — and sealing wax — Of cabbages — and kings…(Quote from Lewis Carroll- Ed).

Lexgirl33

04-20-2008, 08:46 PM

New news posted on the onering.net telling us that we will get Hobbit news within the next few days. Probably official news about the movie and what not :D Can't wait!

Lexgirl33

04-24-2008, 05:14 PM

ITS OFFICIAL. Del Toro Will direct The Hobbit! I can't wait to finally see this (2) Movies!!!!!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117984595.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&nid=2562

LoveHurts38

04-25-2008, 09:24 AM

And the best part is that Howard Shore will compose again and Del Toro wants the same LOTR actors for The Hobbit it makes sense.....Damn I can't wait!!!

Lexgirl33

04-25-2008, 09:11 PM

I know!! :D :D I love his music. Here is an EXCELLENT interview with Del Toro about the upcoming movies

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2008/04/25/28747-guillermo-del-toro-chats-with-torn-about-the-hobbit-films/#more-28747

LoveHurts38

04-26-2008, 07:20 PM

Lexgirl33

05-24-2008, 05:36 PM

Fans chatted with PJ and GDT today read the questions and find out more info about the 2 movies,sounds freaking awesome! 4 years is too far away!

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/unexpectedpartychat/

LoveHurts38

05-31-2008, 08:52 AM

Fans chatted with PJ and GDT today read the questions and find out more info about the 2 movies,sounds freaking awesome! 4 years is too far away!

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/unexpectedpartychat/

Thanks can't wait:D OB back**cross fingers**

Ginx

06-06-2008, 07:26 AM

Both movies should be good but I'm more looking forward to the second one than the Hobbit - I mean the Hobbit was ok but I'm a big fan of other things in middle earth :)

This probably means that when the movies start to come out - some theaters will show LOTR Tril again - that will be good times :)

Lexgirl33

08-17-2008, 05:49 PM

Yeah the 2nd one is going to way more interesting because they are going to actually create it.

jpfort1957

06-09-2009, 10:03 PM

I hpe these 2 movies will be as good, as if Jackson did them himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lexgirl33

06-13-2009, 07:55 AM

Oh yeah, the films have changed, they are going to split the hobbit into 2 films. My guess is that they will just add to the story, well obviously they have to but the 2nd film will no long be a connection between the Hobbit and LotR

Good news...Hugo Weaving is confirmed!! :D

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/06/11/32462-hugo-weaving-confirmed-to-return-for-the-hobbit/

So that makes Sir Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving so far!

axisoftime

06-23-2009, 05:25 PM

I hadnt heard this-i had figured in the begaining they would just split the Hobbit into 2 parts.Id guess they would Prob end pt 1 with Thorin bein captured by the elves.
Im sure theyll extend the battle of 5 armies
I know gandalf is supposed to be very old and perhaps 70 yrs isnt all that much in that time span-but he is still sposed to look younger-as bilbo and frodo noted in fotr how much more older-bent over he looked.But that is good news-they should have as many ppl return as possible-how about Legolas with the elves.Maybe the same guy who played gimli could play Gloin-they r father son

LoveHurts38

06-26-2009, 01:41 AM

Lexgirl33

07-20-2009, 10:17 PM

They have begun to rebuild Hobbiton :D

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/07/18/32790-exclusive-rebuilding-of-hobbiton-has-begun/

Filming starts in March 2010 for 370 days :eek:
No casting for Bilbo at CC, as rumors might have said

Tabularasa

07-20-2009, 11:48 PM

Glad to see Hobbington looking the same. I'm a little worried without Peter Jackson behind the camera, but since he'll have a hand in the script and be producing it, I'm sure good will come out of it. Plus I think he left a great blue print in the form of the three movies, on how to do a Tolkien film.

Wicked Lois

07-21-2009, 08:57 AM

Wow, that will take a long time, huh?
The best thing about movies based on book is that they always encourage people to read more. And reading the book before the movie is the best option. =]

Lexgirl33

07-22-2009, 04:31 PM

Wow, that will take a long time, huh?
The best thing about movies based on book is that they always encourage people to read more. And reading the book before the movie is the best option. =]

Yeah I know :( They probably have to rebuild a ton of stuff but Im sure it will be worth it!

ITA, not to mention, the books are always better!

axisoftime

07-22-2009, 07:36 PM

In fact FOTR encouraged me to read-reread the book after i saw the film lol.I was dissapointed when i first saw it-no Tom Bombadill-the way they rushed thru the secret council meeting in rivendell-Sauraman wanted the ring for himself not for Sauron-etc.However now i think all the films r great.Ive watched all3 btb about 5 times.
yes the books r much better-and certainly add to the enjoyment of the films.Maybe in the hobbit they will stick closer to the book.

Tabularasa

07-23-2009, 04:28 PM

I'm glad they didn't stick to the book in FOTR. In the book it takes way too long to get to the main point. It's fine in a book, but in a film that is supposed to set up the other two, it's not okay. Tom Bombadil would've just been one long detour to what the film was about. I think Jackson and his writers had a sense of what was important to the story and to get to it. Even with leaving things out, the movies are really long. But I'm sure with 2 movies, they can get to pretty much everything in The Hobbit.

Lexgirl33

07-24-2009, 03:32 PM

Alrighty a bit more news from CC from PJ

For fans, the good news: ‘The Hobbit’ is progressing and Jackson and the writing team of director Guillermo del Toro, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens are close to have a finished screen-play for the first of the two movies, allowing the studio to give the film a green light. The bad news for the impatient: Casting isn’t being talked about much as the focus is firmly on nailing the story on the page.

“We are about three weeks I would say, give or take a little tailwind, we are about three weeks from turning over the first script for the first film to the studio.”

The handed-in script is a big step to making the dream of the film a reality, Jackson explained because it allows the studio and filmmakers to come up with a shooting schedule and a budget. The budget for the first film will be an indicator of the budget for the second film, giving studio and filmmakers a chance to start negotiations with actors, agents and to put all the needed pieces in place to make a movie.

The process is getting to the 1st-draft stage isn’t as simple as some might imagine.

“We worked on an extended treatment of the two films which we pitched to the studio on a long conference call. That was about three or four months ago. That went well and they liked the idea. (Before) none of us where really sure if it should be one film, or if it should it be two films,” he said.

“There was talk about doing ‘The Hobbit’ as one movie and making an ‘Hobbit,’ and ‘Lord of the Rings,’ bridge movie. We didn’t really know ourselves but as we worked through the story line we thought ‘Well obviously we could squeeze ‘The Hobbit’ into one movie, but In a three hour movie you would be amazed at how much of the story you would have to lose.”

“The book, well the book is what the book is and we just worked through a process and included all the events that we we would like to see in the film, plus the fact that we wanted to embellish a few things and put a little extra narrative that includes Gandalf and what he was doing with the Necromancer and various side stories that are happening. So we decided really that the two movies we are doing would actually would be ‘The Hobbit.’ ”

from http://www.theonering.net/

Clois4eva89

07-24-2009, 03:38 PM

I'm stoked about this project I loved the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Is any of the old cast from LOTR going to return and is the second film going to tie in with Fellowship of the Ring?

Lexgirl33

07-24-2009, 04:07 PM

Only Sir Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving so far are returning.

No the 2nd film will still be The Hobbit and not tie in with FotR but Im sure they'll tie it in somehow :\

Supermania

07-27-2009, 02:36 PM

No the 2nd film will still be The Hobbit and not tie in with FotR but Im sure they'll tie it in somehow :\

I must admit; I am skeptical about these films because I feel that the only reason they decided to split it into two films was to make more money. Still, PJ has a huge involvemnt in the film and I loved LOTR and King Kong, so I guess there's some hope...

Lexgirl33

07-27-2009, 03:36 PM

I agree, Im sure its a money thing a tiny bit but if you ever watch the EE appendices you really see that they all love the story and really want to tell their version of it. Also we have this quote from PJ:

There was talk about doing ‘The Hobbit’ as one movie and making an ‘Hobbit,’ and ‘Lord of the Rings,’ bridge movie. We didn’t really know ourselves but as we worked through the story line we thought ‘Well obviously we could squeeze ‘The Hobbit’ into one movie, but In a three hour movie you would be amazed at how much of the story you would have to lose.”

Tabularasa

07-27-2009, 04:34 PM

Of course it was 2 movies for the money, but there's also so much to tell between the Hobbit and FOTR that it would make sense. They could do a trilogy, 2 films about The Hobbit and one as a bridge to FOTR and there would still be so much they would have to cut out. That's how deep Tolkien goes with these stories.

axisoftime

07-31-2009, 07:10 PM

Yeh they could have made every movie into 2 films if they wanted-so figuring this is it y not make2-just like Harry Potter Deathly Hollows bein made into 2 films.Interesting when I read that bit about showing Gandalf and the council of the wise driving Sauron out of Mirkwood I wondered if chrsitopher Lee might make an appearence as Saruman-i looked up sum stuff and found this-

-Lee starred as Saruman in the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy. (In the commentary he states he had a decades-long dream to play Gandalf, but said he was now too old, and his physical limitations prevented his being considered. The role of Saruman, by contrast, required no horseback riding and much less fighting. Gandalf was given to Ian McKellen and Lee played Saruman.) Lee had met Tolkien once (making him the only person in the Lord of the Rings film trilogy to have done so), and makes a habit of reading the novels at least once a year.In addition, he performed for the album The Lord of the Rings: Songs and Poems by J. R. R. Tolkien in 2003. Lee had his appearance in the third film's theatrical release cut, resulting in a frosty friendship with Peter Jackson, however, the scene was reinstated in the extended edition-

Lexgirl33

07-31-2009, 07:19 PM

Yup Lee was pissed his scene was cut from the theatrical version :lol: After watching nothing but the EE I can't imagine watching the theatricals, you miss a lot just with that extra footage. And Saurman's death is esp. one scene that would have made the beginning of the movie flow a bit better IMO.

Lee is old though lol in his 80s! I really enjoyed the story about how Viggo came to play Aragorn. :) His son was a big fan of the books and a big reason Viggo decided to take the role was because of him. Awwww OKAY back on topic :lol:

I would love to see Lee back of course! I really do hope that all the original cast members return that are needed. Wonder if John Rhys-Davies will return? He said he would NEVER play a dwarf again LOL

I am about to read the Hobbit again :)

Comic Con Video :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsNPBBoga3w&feature=player_embedded

PJ looks soo different. Wow I totally didn't know the movie wasn't even greenlit :eek: 3-4 weeks or the first draft though...*hopes they accept it*

The movie hasn't been greenlit, yet they are building Hobbiton?? HMMMM...

axisoftime

08-01-2009, 07:38 PM

I think its more a thing of him sayin it could be a long process-ok the script-agree on money etc-I doubt they would let such a potentally blockbuster film get away from them
He could also be tryin to build up anticapation for the film-sumthing Gene Roddenbury of star trek was good at.
Believe it or not-I havent seen the ee editions-owell sumthin to look forward to i guess lol-im curious u mention Sarumans death-do they show Wormtounge killing him-i thought the ee edition showed Gandalf breaking his staff at the begainning of ROTK

If youve never seen this-its worth a look-the ballad of Bilbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPh12Q7cpeE

Tabularasa

08-01-2009, 11:03 PM

axisoftime

08-02-2009, 06:14 PM

Lexgirl33

08-02-2009, 07:07 PM

Yup, wormtounge kills him, can't remember about the staff though. But I highly suggest watching the extended editions. They really bring a lot more to the movies. But be warned, they are long. I think ROTK is close to 4 and a half hours.

Saruman attempts to burn them and then Gandalf yells " Saruman, Your staff is broken" and then it disintegrates. This is before Wormtounge kills him.

Yup ITA the EE are a lot better.

Tabularasa

08-02-2009, 08:48 PM

I wouldnt mind if they were each 5 hours long-LOTR and the Hobbit are my fav books of all time.Ive read the Hobbit several times and LOTR about 5 times-plus ive seen the films back to back 3 or 4 times.To me this is the greatest epic sci fi-or fantasy ever.

I have to agree with you there. I think anyone can make an argument for Star Wars, but for me, LOTR is the best epic out there.

Violet-Shadow

08-02-2009, 10:01 PM

I have to agree with you there. I think anyone can make an argument for Star Wars, but for me, LOTR is the best epic out there.

*gasps* *dies* Star Wars forever! *changes subject quickly*

Anyway, I'd like to see The Hobbit though I didn't really like ROTK. It just wasn't...something. I hope The Hobbit can capture the magic so evident in FOTR.

axisoftime

08-03-2009, 07:08 PM

*gasps* *dies*-didnt like ROTK-changes subject quickly -LOL-back at ya violet

This might make a good thread-lotr vs star wars.I thought ANH and ESB were great-but the other 4 films-not so much.

I have never seen Lost so i didnt know Dominic Monahan-Merry-was on it
How is he on that show-any1 watch it

Lexgirl33

08-03-2009, 07:50 PM

This is a really great in-dept interview about Peter and the Hobbit :) I suggest you read this!

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/08/03/32999-peter-jackson-speaks/

Violet-Shadow

08-03-2009, 10:24 PM

*gasps* *dies*-didnt like ROTK-changes subject quickly -LOL-back at ya violet

:rotfl:

I don't know why I didn't like ROTK...I never did see the extended version. But ROTK makes me rather leary about The Hobbit.

Tabularasa

08-03-2009, 10:51 PM

Lord of the rings and The Hobbit are very different styles. But I'm not sure why you didn't like ROTK, I feel like it was the best of the 3 and IMO the best 3rd film of any franchise. It could be that ROTK was just too long with too many different endings. I understand why it was done but also understand why it turned people off.

But the fact that they're doing the LOTR prequels not too long after the trilogy is a good thing. I think it may be one of the reasons Star Wars prequel IMO failed. I think Lucas spent too many years away from the franchise. It was like 30+ years between Return of the jedi and Phantom Menace.

Violet-Shadow

08-03-2009, 10:57 PM

I thought about it and ROTK felt too rushed. And a lot of stuff, important stuff, was left out. When I saw TTT, the battle scenes made me feel something. In ROTK, that feeling was lost for me. I was expecting something epic and, for me, ROTK just didn't come through. I hope The Hobbit will.

Tabularasa

08-04-2009, 10:03 PM

axisoftime

08-05-2009, 07:52 PM

Violet-Shadow

08-05-2009, 09:40 PM

^ Yeah I see what you're talking about. I'm not sure about things being left out though. I feel like Jackson crammed all he could into it, besides Christopher Lee's death scene of course. I think Helm's Deep battle was so well done and so epic that when it came for another battle in ROTK it just couldn't match to Helm's Deep. But the final battle in ROTK is really just one big distraction anyway. But I wouldn't expect any big epic battles from The Hobbit.

Yeah, that's how I felt about that last battle. It couldn't match Helm's Deep. The Helm's Deep scene actually made me cry... Anyway, you're right. The Hobbit wasn't really an epic battle scene story. But there's a dragon...if I remember right, there is.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

.Return of the Jedi however...was aletdown from the 1st 2 excellent films.Yes the battle at the end with Luke- Vader and the Emperor was cool...but the planet of teddy bears er ewoks-the frog and mouse commanders of the rebel fleet-isnt this star wars-gee maybe PJ should have had a couple stormtroopers after frodo lol.

No comment to this. :lol: Okay comment away - ROTJ, best third movie of a trilogy EVER!!!!! *cries because she can't get anyone to agree with her*

If George Lucas had directed LOTR...hmmm...didn't someone make a fanvid about that? (yes)

Lexgirl33

08-05-2009, 10:34 PM

Thx for the article Lexgirl-very interesting-and for that video-and for your enthusiasm for the Hobbit-nice to see sumone so into it.

Id say ROTK is my fav of the films too-and the 3rd best film in any series as well-though id have to say Harry Potter Prisoner of Azkaban is a great film.Return of the Jedi however...was aletdown from the 1st 2 excellent films.Yes the battle at the end with Luke- Vader and the Emperor was cool...but the planet of teddy bears er ewoks-the frog and mouse commanders of the rebel fleet-isnt this star wars-gee maybe PJ should have had a couple stormtroopers after frodo lol.
I think the battle of 5 armies could be played up to be real good.After all Thorin dies-and seein Beorn charge in and kill the great goblin-if done right this could be epic.Not to mention what Im most enthused about-SMAUG THE MAGNIFICENT-I hope they do a good job on him.The battle of Laketown could be awesum.

You're welcome :) Glad to know you guys are into it as well!

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No comment to this. :lol: Okay comment away - ROTJ, best third movie of a trilogy EVER!!!!! *cries because she can't get anyone to agree with her*

If George Lucas had directed LOTR...hmmm...didn't someone make a fanvid about that? (yes)

ROTJ Is my favorite SW movie..but damn ROTK, I cry every time :lol:

axisoftime

08-06-2009, 06:44 PM

Tabularasa

08-06-2009, 11:13 PM

ROTJ is pretty epic in the last 10-15 minutes. But the rest of the movie was really blah for me. I think if Lucas could've come up with a better storyline for the Rebels/Han and Leia instead of the Ewoks, it could've been really great.

Lexgirl33

08-07-2009, 11:18 AM

Tabularasa

08-07-2009, 01:04 PM

Grey Havens for sure. That was the moment when I realized, wow we've been watching these guys for 3 movies, for 3 years, and now it's coming to an end. That was such a great send off.

Lexgirl33

08-07-2009, 01:23 PM

What gets me is that they will never see Frodo again. I mean its like hes dying but bes alive. So sad :(

Violet-Shadow

08-07-2009, 05:52 PM

Is there a particular scene that makes u cry?I must admit the first few times I saw ROTK -the scene where Frodo and Sam are getting near the cave entrance-and Frodo falls to the ground pain stricken-and Sam talks about the Shire for a moment then says-Maybe I cant carry it for u-but i can carry u-and picks him up struggling to keep going on-what a ...powerfull and moving scene.

Totally forgot about the Sam/Frodo storyline. My dislike of every other scene in the movie often overshadows my LOVE for those scenes. When Sam carried Frodo...yeah, I cried. They had the most amazing friendship and those scenes perfectly showcased it.

As for ROTJ-interesting how varied ppls opinons r-sum sayin the best star wars-or the best 3rd series film-I didnt say i didnt like it-or that it was a bad film-but to me it was pretty average compared to the 1st 2-yet i lkied it better then the 3 prequals.The ending was pretty great when Vader turns on the emperor.

If we are comparing the third movie in a trilogy to the movies that came before it, then I think Revenge of the Sith has to win. There's no way that I or II even held any kind of candle to ROTS. And then there's Indiana Jones The Final Crusade... I don't think ROTK was better than Fellowship or Two Towers. I think the epic-ness dropped down a scale for ROTK. I think it can be turned back up for The Hobbit. Especially since there's going to be a dragon. *claps and grins* I like dragons.

axisoftime

08-07-2009, 08:17 PM

Sam does see Frodo again-

-As the last of the Ring-bearers, he was entitled to sail across the Sea and be reunited with Frodo in the Undying Lands.-

My fav scene in LOTR is prob when Aragorn-Gimli-and Legolas think they are going to face Saruman and it turns out to be Gandalf

My fav from the Hobbit-either when Bilbo is talking with smaug and mentions revenge-

-Revenge? I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG! My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears! my wings, a hurricane! And my breath, Death!

or the riddles with gollum in the cave-

What has roots as nobody sees,
Is taller than trees,
Up, up it goes
And yet never grows?

Lexgirl33

08-26-2009, 11:31 PM

jpfort1957

08-27-2009, 04:00 PM

Yup, wormtounge kills him, can't remember about the staff though. But I highly suggest watching the extended editions. They really bring a lot more to the movies. But be warned, they are long. I think ROTK is close to 4 and a half hours.

The extended versions are long........but well worth it!!!!!!!!

Captain_Rickman

08-28-2009, 09:44 AM

There are rumors going around that Bilbo has been chosen...dun dun dun...Wonder who it is!? Its actually confirmed on video by Ian McKellen

Here is some choices for casting (not official of course)

http://www.reelzchannel.com/article/899/casting-the-hobbit-the-top-5-choices-for-bilbo-baggins

I would love James McAvoy as Bilbo. He seems the most fit IMO

Rats ... I couldnt see the link ^^ So, has anyone been confirmed as Bilbo? :cool:
I know than Daniel Radcliffe has officially denied being cast but, he hinted at James McAvoy being cast but, I thought that James McAvoy had denied being cast, which is too bad because I think he would be awesome as a hobbit, in particular as Bilbo.

Lexgirl33

08-28-2009, 11:51 AM

I think anyone would deny if they were casted until they could officially say they were :p

No one has been confirmed but there is confirmation that Bilbo has been cast from Ian McKellen. There is a link on theonering.net with the video of him saying it :)

axisoftime

09-08-2009, 07:16 PM

-The heirs of J.R.R. Tolkien and a movie studio that produced the blockbuster "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy have settled a lawsuit over the films' profits, it was announced Tuesday.

The out-of-court resolution clears the way for a two-film prequel based on Tolkien's novel "The Hobbit" and will benefit charities around the world, according to a joint press release announcing the settlement.

The lawsuit had sought to rescind New Line Cinema's rights to make films based on the book.

Tolkien's heirs sued New Line Cinema in February 2008, claiming the studio owed it millions in profits from the movies released between 2001 and 2003. The films earned an estimated $6 billion in sales of movie tickets, DVDs and merchandise-.

Well this is good news-hard to believe the Tolkien family didnt get a penny and had to sue lol

Lexgirl33

09-30-2009, 03:24 PM

Glad this is settled! Geez. Im sure there will be a new case sooner or later lol.

They are still pushing out sales, next up with the blu ray, which I will spend money on, even if I don't have a blu ray player. I just need to have it :lol:

Lexgirl33

12-02-2009, 09:06 AM

I think they are launching http://www.lordoftherings.net/ again in hobbit form (my guess) on Dec. 8th. But somethings going to happen on that site on Dec. 8th.

Also the first script is done! They are working on the 2nd one and hope to finish it by the end of the year. There is news that the film won't be released till 2012 now, but it depends on a lot of stuff.

amberdawn

12-02-2009, 12:33 PM

I cannot wait for this!!!

super_j_man

12-02-2009, 07:19 PM

I really hope they do this movie, do it right, but I don't see how they are going to drag it out into two movies. They should stick with one movie even if it will be long.

amberdawn

12-03-2009, 11:07 AM

Two movies makes sense to me, actually, having read the book. That way they CAN do it right.

super_j_man

12-03-2009, 05:16 PM

Maybe it's just cause it's been a while since I read the book or maybe I used to the cartoon movie of the Hobbit, I dunno. I guess either way can work, as long as the writers know how to make it work.

Dr. Curt Connors

12-05-2009, 12:08 PM

I sure hope they choose a good actor for Bilbo!

Lexgirl33

12-05-2009, 01:48 PM

I hope so too! I can't wait to see who they cast.

Tabularasa

12-05-2009, 04:53 PM

I'm glad they pushed it back to 2012. It gives them more time to shoot and more time with the script to get it right.

Lexgirl33

12-08-2009, 12:26 PM

Casting begins this week!!!

“We’re auditioning for every role,” Jackson said in an interview, adding he is a big believer in casting a wide net to better match actors with the roles.

“What we’ve done over the years is discover a lot of interesting actors, like Orlando Bloom (in 'Rings'), Kate Winslet (in 'Heavenly Creatures'), Saoirse Ronan (in 'The Lovely Bones'). So if you start looking and auditioning seriously, it’s amazing what incredible talent you’ll find out there.”

Jackson denied that he had settled on any actors besides McKellen and pooh-poohed Web chatter that he has approached James McAvoy for a key role.

“Apart from Ian McKellen, who we obviously want to return as Gandalf, we are not really offering any roles to anybody until we’ve done a casting sweep,” Jackson said.

Casting is being handled out of Los Angeles and London.

The filmmaker, whose adaptation of “The Lovely Bones” opens Friday, said although he and director Guillermo del Toro have casting approval on the two “Hobbit” movies, he feels no pressure to cast stars in major roles.

“(These movies) have never been a star-driven vehicle. The star is (author J.R.R.) Tolkien and the world he created. We are not under any pressure. We want to find the right people. Casting someone to portray a hobbit is not as easy as you might imagine. They have to have a particular type of physical appearance and a sensibility. And the same with an elf or a dwarf. These are fantastical characters, but you’ve got to find the right people to play them, the right humans to translate these characters.”

Jackson also denied earlier reports that production on “Hobbit” was delayed.

“It’s not,” he said, adding that the script for the first movie is completed and that collaborators Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens and del Toro are in the middle of writing the second. They hope to deliver drafts to Warner Bros. and MGM, which are jointly backing the films, around Christmastime.

“We were always planning to shoot around April or May next year, and as far as I’m aware, we’re pretty much on target for that. It depends on how quickly the studio greenlights the film. It’s not in our hands. But as long as we‘re shooting next year, we’re fine.”

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2009/12/peter-jackson-says-hobbit-casting-begins-this-week.html

axisoftime

03-29-2010, 05:29 PM

not the best of news-

Report: Bilbo Baggins declares bankruptcy

How many times have you watched the Lord of the Rings (LOTR) trilogy? 15, 20, 30? Well, hang onto your golden Precious, because you may have to watch the Two Towers battle the Fellowship yet again while waiting for cash-strapped MGM to start filming The Hobbit.

Indeed, TheOneRing.net has reportedly received "rock-solid" information from a "reliable source" that MGM's "financial situation" is responsible for delaying the start of the much anticipated movie.

"The venerable film studio behind James Bond and about 4,000 other titles is reported to be in about $3.7 billion in debt but holds the distribution rights for two 'Hobbit' films that are under contract to be made by Warners Bros," claimed MrCere of TheOneRing.

"The two studios have an agreement in place to produce and distribute the film but financial difficulties for MGM, including the potential sale of the studio and its holdings, including rights to the films based on the book by J.R.R. Tolkien, has delayed the films."

According to MrCere, the "wrangling" with MGM is also a "significant part" of possibly postponing the films yet again. Nevertheless, the intrepid New Zealand team is apparently hard at work with "pre-pre-production" of a (possibly) well-developed script

amberdawn

03-29-2010, 05:32 PM

Lexgirl33

03-29-2010, 06:08 PM

Im going to go into a cave and cry now lol

axisoftime

03-30-2010, 05:20 PM

how does a company like mgm-with 1 of the greatest movie series of all time in james bond plus other films like wizard of oz-get in so much debt.musta had alot of crummy films lol.now if they r 3.7 billion in debt-and i havent researched this but i believe i heard the 2 hobbit films could bring in over 5 billion-surely an agreement can be reached.lets say the films cost 300 million to make-they could borrow the money-and still clear 1 billion after paying off their debts-even paying back say 200 mill in interest penalties or whatever would still be a good profit. im betting the delay may not be long

axisoftime

05-31-2010, 04:07 PM

i think maybe sauron has cursed these films lol-

Director quits 'Hobbit' film over production delay

May 31, 3:48 am ET
WELLINGTON, New Zealand – Hollywood director Guillermo del Toro said Monday that production delays have forced him to quit the planned film version of J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a two-part prequel to New Zealand filmmaker Peter Jackson's blockbuster trilogy "Lord of the Rings."

"In light of ongoing delays in the setting of a start date for filming The Hobbit, I am faced with the hardest decision of my life," del Toro told a "Lord of the Rings" fan website.

"After nearly two years of living, breathing and designing a world as rich as Tolkien's Middle Earth, I must, with great regret, take leave from helming these wonderful pictures," he said, noting the film still hadn't been given the green light by MGM, the struggling Hollywood studio.

Matt Dravitzki, a spokesman for "Hobbit" producer and "Lord Of The Rings" director Jackson, said del Toro would not be speaking to reporters Monday.

The announcement by del Toro reflected Jackson and del Toro's "full sentiments at this time," he said.

Del Toro would continue to co-write the screenplays with Jackson and his wife, Fran Walsh, and Philippa Boyens.

Jackson reached a deal in late 2007 to make two films of "The Hobbit." He is serving as joint executive producer with Walsh.

Last week, del Toro, who directed "Pan's Labyrinth," "Blade II" and the two "Hellboy" movies, told journalists the "Hobbit" films, which have been plagued by delays, still hadn't been given the go ahead.

"There cannot be any start dates until the MGM situation gets resolved," del Toro said. "They do hold a considerable portion of the rights."

Reports emerged late last year that MGM was teetering on bankruptcy and del Toro said those issues had caught the "Hobbit" films in a "tangled negotiation."

"We have designed all the creatures. We've designed the sets and the wardrobe. We have done animatics and planned battles sequences ... We are very, very prepared for when it is finally triggered," he said.

Jackson told http://www.TheOneRing.net: "We feel very sad to see Guillermo leave The Hobbit, but he has kept us fully in the loop and we understand how the protracted development time on these two films, due to reasons beyond anyone's control, has compromised his commitment to other long term projects.

"The bottom line is that Guillermo just didn't feel he could commit six years to living in New Zealand, exclusively making these films, when his original commitment was for three years. Guillermo is one of the most remarkable creative spirits I've ever encountered and it has been a complete joy working with him."-

6 years-u mean the film wont be out till at least 2016-wow

amberdawn

06-01-2010, 01:07 AM

I'm feeling like these films will never happen. :(

axisoftime

10-16-2010, 12:35 PM

well some good news-

LOS ANGELES – It's time to celebrate again in Middle Earth.

Peter Jackson is set to direct "The Hobbit," the two-part prequel to the popular "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and start shooting in February, Warner Bros. said in a release on Friday.

The movies, based on J.R.R. Tolkien's books, had been delayed by union issues and the ongoing restructuring of flailing Hollywood studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., which owns half the project.

Jackson, who directed the "Rings" trilogy, had originally hired Guillermo del Toro to direct, but del Toro left the project in May because of delays after working on the project for nearly two years.

Jackson also co-wrote the screenplays with del Toro, his wife Fran Walsh, and Philippa Boyens

genvillewars92

10-16-2010, 03:07 PM

Zomg I can't wait to see this...when it comes out :p

jpfort1957

10-17-2010, 08:59 AM

Pali

10-17-2010, 09:41 AM

super_j_man

10-17-2010, 11:31 AM

*crosses fingers* please please please happen!!!!

j03superbat

10-17-2010, 12:17 PM

I wasn't a massive LotR fan (or at all, actually) and I'm not as in love with the movies as everyone else (or at all, actually), but I'm glad that - for the sake of consistency - Peter Jackson will be directing The Hobbit.

geminis

10-17-2010, 12:33 PM

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Please please please let this not go back to development hell.

Clois4eva89

10-17-2010, 01:28 PM

Is it still going to be released in 2011 and 2012 or has it been pushed back?

amberdawn

10-18-2010, 01:28 PM

I just hope things will finally work out.

rajman

10-18-2010, 02:21 PM

James Nesbitt has been offered a role while David Tennant and Michael Fassbender are being pursued for two other roles in the upcoming "The Hobbit" reports Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/the-hobbit-finally-starts-filming-in-february/).

Michael Fassbender was so cool in Centurion, I definitely recommend it

geminis

10-18-2010, 09:06 PM

Gotta love David Tennant, too. :)

ClubXerxes

10-22-2010, 04:43 AM

Martin Freeman of the BBC version of "The Office" to play Bilbo Baggins in Jackson's Movie:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11604193

amberdawn

10-22-2010, 07:01 AM

Hmm... I guess he has the look.

ClubXerxes

10-22-2010, 07:43 AM

Hmm... I guess he has the look.

I just want this project moving forward - LOTR series is at the top of my all time favorite movies, so the Hobbit would have much to live up to...

Welling_is_pretty

10-22-2010, 12:24 PM

I think Martin is a good choice for Bilbo.

Though I can't get him as Arthur Dent out of my head but I'm sure once I see footage that will be fixed.

genvillewars92

10-22-2010, 03:39 PM

Martin Freemen as Bilbo?? hmmm I kinda like it!

rajman

10-28-2010, 03:10 PM

New Zealand it is!!

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

02-09-2011, 05:27 PM

They better start shooting Silmarillion after these movies. And they thought Lord of the Rings was unfilmable :D:D

genvillewars92

02-18-2011, 01:09 PM

I heard that Richard Armitage is playing a part in this film *flail* :D

Costanza

02-19-2011, 06:28 PM

Martin Freemen as Bilbo?? hmmm I kinda like it!

I like it too! I just read that they'll officially start shooting the 21th of March in New-Zealand.

I heard that Richard Armitage is playing a part in this film *flail* :D

Yeah I read that too, he'll be Thorin! Aidan Turner and Graham McTavish are going to play dwarfs as well.

Actually I'm reading the book right now! So far I like it, but it's really different from the LOTR trilogy! Can't wait to see how the movie will be like :)

nate-dog1701d

03-22-2011, 12:10 AM

Well, The Hobbit began filming today. Fans everywhere can rejoice.

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

04-12-2011, 08:21 PM

Okay so I haven't read any facts to back this up and basing this solely on IMDB listings but since Saruman, Galadriel and Radagast are in the film:
Do you suppose we see them banish the Necromancer a'la Sauron from Dol Guldur to Mordor? It's not in the book but I believe timewise the actions occur during The Hobbit once Gandalf leaves the party at Mirkwood.

It would tie in to the Ring and LotR nicely plus giving more weight to the story. Dol Guldur gets a mention earlier when Gandalf finds Thrain from it's dungeons and gets the map and the key for the Lonely Mountain.

Welling_is_pretty

04-15-2011, 11:29 AM

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

04-15-2011, 11:39 AM

Nice video! Looking forward to the movies.

Glove

04-15-2011, 03:43 PM

Great to see things getting under way. I can't wait to see these
movies. Thanks for the video.

Pali

04-16-2011, 08:56 AM

I was looking forward to Hobbit, but now after seeing Jackson´s blog, I´m super excited :D:D:D I can´t wait for Hobbit now.........

super_j_man

04-16-2011, 11:02 AM

I'm excited now too! :D This is going to be a good one.....er two. :p

Welling_is_pretty

04-18-2011, 12:18 PM

Glad everyone liked the video! When the music started up and we saw Bag End, I have to admit, I got a little misty. Realized how much I'd missed those hobbits.

And did anyone else catch Sting being flashed (somewhere in the middle, I believe)?

Lexgirl33

04-24-2011, 09:42 AM

Hmmm, interesting theory. That would be a cool thing to see.

And speaking of seeing, apparently Peter Jackson is putting up some video of getting ready to film and filming for fans. Please be aware there are big time spoilers in both the article and video.

First look behind the scenes of the Hobbit (http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/04/15/peter-jacksons-the-hobbit-behind-the-scenes-ian-mckellen-dw/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+InsideMovies+%28Moviefone%3A+ Inside-Movies%29)

So strange to see Rivendell again...

I loved this. I really enjoy alllll the extra footage on the EE's. They go into so much detail and you learn so much about the process. I am glad they are giving us sneak peaks :D Yay!

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

And did anyone else catch Sting being flashed (somewhere in the middle, I believe)?

Ohhh yes it was being remade! SHINY!! lol

Welling_is_pretty

04-25-2011, 11:57 AM

Some more news from the Shire:
Ian Holm to return as Bilbo (http://www.movieline.com/2011/04/ian-holm-to-return-as-bilbo-baggins-in-the-hobbit.php)

cast member drops out of the Hobbit (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Rob-Kazinsky-Hobbit-1032241.aspx)

Welling_is_pretty

05-03-2011, 10:30 AM

More casting news (http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/05/02/lee-pace-cast-in-the-hobbit-our-hopes-for-his-comeback-grow/)

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

05-03-2011, 11:39 AM

Nice, I can totally see him as Thranduil.

Welling_is_pretty

05-06-2011, 10:01 AM

I've never seen any of his other work but based on the pic? Yeah, I can see it.

Welling_is_pretty

05-19-2011, 12:18 PM

and still more casting news (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/5026166/Stephen-Fry-joins-Hobbit-cast)

That's a very interesting choice....

Pali

05-19-2011, 01:33 PM

O don´t know why but I like this casting news.....I disns´t see any of his work, but he seems so...........middleearthian to me :p

Still sad that there is no confirmation on Howard Shore as composer for the Hobbit yet :(

Welling_is_pretty

05-23-2011, 11:49 AM

Still sad that there is no confirmation on Howard Shore as composer for the Hobbit yet
I hadn't even thought of that. I've just always assumed Howard would be back to compose. OK, now I want confirmation!

Pali

05-23-2011, 12:52 PM

I hadn't even thought of that. I've just always assumed Howard would be back to compose. OK, now I want confirmation!

Me too.....he is genius composer........

Lexgirl33

05-23-2011, 05:26 PM

I can't imagine Howard Shore NOT doing The Hobbit. He's gotta! Im sure he will though!

Lexgirl33

05-29-2011, 10:30 PM

Orlando has officially been casted as Legolas now! Interesting to see where he fits in!

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

05-30-2011, 02:52 AM

^ Good news!

I wonder if we'll get to see his archery skills again? Maybe against spiders??

Welling_is_pretty

05-30-2011, 11:15 AM

I saw the Orly news too! Makes sense since we'll be seeing his father and all. I don't know how much time he'll be getting but I think it's cool that the immortal elves are playing their parts.

costas22

05-31-2011, 12:47 AM

From IMDB:

Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0046718/) put much speculation to rest today by officially naming and dating each installment of Peter Jackson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001392/)'s upcoming big screen adaptation of "The Hobbit." The first installment has been christened "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" and will hit theaters on Dec. 14, 2012. The second film shall be known as "The Hobbit: There and Back Again" and will debut on Dec. 13, 2013.

The two films will hit the theatres close to Christmas on back to back years. Just like the good old days. Can't wait. :D

nate-dog1701d

05-31-2011, 12:55 AM

The titles sound great. Of course, There and Back Again was a no-brainer. I'm looking forward to these movies. I've always liked The Hobbit better than Lord of the Rings, so I guess we'll find out what's better in film format within the next couple years.

Pali

06-03-2011, 03:34 PM

Jackson said that we will see White council and Dol Guldur as well........I thought we will, but it´s nice to have it confirmed :)

Welling_is_pretty

06-04-2011, 07:58 AM

Tolkien movies for Christmas, what more could a girl want? Lovely news.

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

06-05-2011, 08:13 AM

Jackson said that we will see White council and Dol Guldur as well........I thought we will, but it´s nice to have it confirmed :)

Yes, knewit! Makes perfect sense after LotR, casting news-wise and the fact the Hobbit is split in two movies.

Since Jackson was influenced atleast partly by Ralph Bakshi's "LotR" I wonder if he will draw some influences from Charles Dixon's (comic) adaptation of the "Hobbit" for example.

Welling_is_pretty

06-17-2011, 11:36 AM

The Voice of Smaug has been cast (http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/benedict-cumberbatch-to-voice-smaug-in-the-hobbit/)

Pali

06-19-2011, 04:08 PM

Evangeline Lilly was cast for Hobbit :eek::eek::eek::D:D:D

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

06-20-2011, 10:42 AM

Evangeline Lilly was cast for Hobbit :eek::eek::eek::D:D:D

Really? What role is she playing?

Pali

06-20-2011, 12:50 PM

Really? What role is she playing?

An elf named Tauriel.......according to Jackson we will see her in Mirkwood :D

costas22

06-23-2011, 12:57 PM

The first images from the movie:

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20504849,00.html#20980350

Welling_is_pretty

06-24-2011, 12:30 PM

Martin's looking good as Bilbo. And Sir Ian as Gandalf looks like it could be a still from Fellowship, which is very cool (means they got it right).

Welling_is_pretty

06-29-2011, 12:36 PM

Couple new pics from set and a quote from Peter Jackson:
Weird to see Sir Ian like that (http://www.movieline.com/2011/06/new-hobbit-photos-bilbo-and-gandalf-face-off.php)

Lexgirl33

07-01-2011, 06:30 AM

Martin's looking good as Bilbo. And Sir Ian as Gandalf looks like it could be a still from Fellowship, which is very cool (means they got it right).

I agree! It looks like nothing has changed!

Welling_is_pretty

07-12-2011, 11:34 AM

Another production diary from Peter Jackson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyZJMABGweI)
including a fairly big reveal on someone taking a turn behind the camera I never suspected (but is pretty cool news, IMO)!

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

07-12-2011, 12:00 PM

^ Thanks for the link! That was amazing!

5 helicopters in formation looking for shooting locations was epic!

Welling_is_pretty

07-16-2011, 11:18 AM

You're welcome. And yeah, that scene of the helicopters was pretty cool, wasn't it? Peter Jackson's fleet of copters or something. :lol:

jpfort1957

12-19-2011, 02:03 AM

For people that enjoy The Hobbit and The lord of the Rings...............there is a new mafia game getting ready to start in the Culture Threads..........we are looking for some players.

http://www.ksitetv.com/forums/showthread.php?161245-The-Lord-of-the-Rings-mafia-sign-up-thread

nate-dog1701d

12-21-2011, 12:09 AM

First trailer. Awesome. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM--4UklaL4&)

starflower69

12-21-2011, 01:41 AM

OMG!!! We still have to wait another year? This trailer is such a tease!!! I really want to see this movie right now, it looks incredible and it hasn't lost any of the feel of the Tolkien feel!

That last scene with Gollum and Bilbo, is exactly how I pictured it in the book!!! I can't wait! Thanks for posting :D

Mel823

12-21-2011, 10:31 AM

I cried! I'm sooo excited for this movie!!!!

Welling_is_pretty

12-21-2011, 01:03 PM

Holy Iluvatar, that looks so amazing! I saw that the first trailer had been released but hadn't watched it yet. Now I have to go watch it again.

The mix of LOTR cast and the new was just--chills down my spine. The good kind.

starflower69

12-21-2011, 01:22 PM

I know what you mean! I've just sat and watched the Fellowship of the Ring just so that I could see Bilbo. I seriously loved The Hobbit and I am going to read the book again just because I need a Hobbit fix now!!!! :lol:

LoveHurts38

12-21-2011, 01:30 PM

Love the trailer can't stop watching and love the score already and the haunting song <3

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow

12-22-2011, 12:03 AM

Looks amazing, sounds amazing and most importantly based on the trailer alone the movie feels familiar and just right!

Anyone know if Howard Shore is returning to do the music for the Hobbit movies?

starflower69

12-22-2011, 04:04 AM

I don't know but funny you should say that as I was thinking the same thing myself yesterday. I would have thought that Concerning Hobbits and Gollum's song would remain the same and maybe the overall music for different scenes could be adapted from previous themes as the music is very specific to LOTR and one would recognise it anywhere.

LoveHurts38

12-22-2011, 07:33 AM

Looks amazing, sounds amazing and most importantly based on the trailer alone the movie feels familiar and just right!

Anyone know if Howard Shore is returning to do the music for the Hobbit movies?

I did read somewhere that Howard Shore did return to score the movie again :)

Pali

12-22-2011, 01:53 PM

I watched the trailer over and over and over.........it´s soooo epic :D

jpfort1957

12-22-2011, 03:40 PM

I watched the trailer over and over and over.........it´s soooo epic :D It way cool!!! I don't know if I'll ever be able to remember all the names that Gandolf is thowing out at us. :lol:

Clois/is/hot

12-22-2011, 06:18 PM

Amazing!:D Oh how I miss my precious!

nate-dog1701d

12-23-2011, 12:03 AM

Anyone know if Howard Shore is returning to do the music for the Hobbit movies?

He's listed in the credits at the end of the trailer.

----- Added 11 Minutes later -----

It way cool!!! I don't know if I'll ever be able to remember all the names that Gandolf is thowing out at us. :lol:

Yeah, I've read the book twice and still have a hard time. The easiest way is to think of them in groups - the ones with similar names:

Bifur, Bofur, Bombur; Oin, Gloin; Dori, Ori, Nori; Fili, Kili; Dwalin, Balin; Thorin.

I couldn't even list all of them out without looking them up (I missed Dwalin and Balin).