PDA

View Full Version : Who is your favorite Doctor Who?



Pages : 1 2 3 [4]

TMLS
09-01-2007, 02:13 PM
Bonnie Langford was superb. I can't think of any re-----

Wait, I can't do it. I can't lie like that ;)

constantine
09-01-2007, 03:09 PM
hehe...That's what I thought.

Estro-gen X
09-01-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by TMLS
Rose as best companion? Eeesh. Cockney chav.

Problem is though, unless you've seen Sarah-Jane's journey it's hard to appreciate just how good she was.

Ace is under-rated too, in my opinion.

I've seen sarah janes episodes


i love rose:o

MidgardDragon
09-02-2007, 03:15 AM
Rose just had more personality than Martha and any of the Sarah Jane episodes I've seen combined. I really don't care about "Cockney" or "chav". Her personality, the fact that she actually had one, was what made me love her. And of course the fact that the Doctor had a believable and emotional relationship with her.

constantine
09-02-2007, 08:25 AM
...Yeah but you're missing the crux of the issue; the doctor doesn't set up a little penthouse apartment in the corner of the TARDIS just so he can snuggle up with the latest companion. The point of the show has always been the relationship between himself and his companion WITHOUT having that "will they, wont they?" aspect of a realtionship. It bugs the crap out of me that Russel insists on writing that into the show.

Estro-gen X
09-02-2007, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by constantine
...Yeah but you're missing the crux of the issue; the doctor doesn't set up a little penthouse apartment in the corner of the TARDIS just so he can snuggle up with the latest companion. The point of the show has always been the relationship between himself and his companion WITHOUT having that "will they, wont they?" aspect of a realtionship. It bugs the crap out of me that Russel insists on writing that into the show.

of course thats true. Rose has been unique in the sense of an overt relationship based on mutual sexual attraction. Just a friendship if fine

constantine
09-02-2007, 08:34 AM
Yeah, and peronally I think it ruined things a little, you know? It was bad enough having a chav in space...I got over that. The whole spiel in bad wolf bay was annoying though.

MidgardDragon
09-02-2007, 08:38 AM
It's fine to have companions that aren't a romance. It's fine to have a companion that is about romance, IMO, too. And I never thought "will they or won't they?" Not once. I didn't care. She had personality and their relationship was believable, but most importantly the stories were good. Martha was just...there. And the few Sarah Jane Smith episodes just didn't do anything for me, same as most of the old stuff. The fact that I *believed* the Doctor actually cared about Rose was the most important part to me, though. His "meh" attitude toward Martha for most of the season, then his begrudging, "okay you're not horrible" attitude at the end, it just didn't do anything for me. I'd much rather have romance then that crap.

constantine
09-02-2007, 08:43 AM
So basically, what you're saying in a roundabout way, is that it's ok for russel t davies to take a giant piss over the core character creation of something that's lasted longer than star trek, because it draws a new audience in (much like you) that likes more character involvement in the way of never ending fawning over the hero of the show?

Sorry man, if you want shows like that, watch smallville or one tree hill- it is not, and should not be what doctor who is about, and a lot of brits I know get very defensive over characters like doctor who because it's literally something a nation full of people have grown up with.

LITERALLY, save the massive hiatus, grown up wth. you can ask most adults in the street in the UK who their favourite doctor is, andmost the time, they'll have a fond spot in their heart for their first.

borednow
09-02-2007, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Estro-gen X
Its more popular than you think. ;)

Oh yeah. Go look at big fanfiction places for Doctor Who. Rose is very well loved! I know I loved her! I love the direction of the new series. It took chances, so some didn't like the x-files style romance without sex, oh well. It came across well to me.

Sad to see #10 described as The Doctor Who Pandered To Rose Too Much. Couldn't come up with something a little less bias?

TMLS
09-03-2007, 06:54 AM
Fan Fictioners are only part of the demographic though...

MidgardDragon
09-03-2007, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by TMLS
Fan Fictioners are only part of the demographic though...

Yes, well, I know it's a meager K-Site poll, but even here Rose jumped right out ahead as a favorite companion in the Best Companion poll:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77994

I'm not a fanfic writer, and I'm sure not all of the other votes were from them either. What I'm seeing with Rose is...lots of people love her, just not lots of people seem willing to admit their love for her.

Let's face it, out of the 38,552 users K-Site has, I doubt those of us that actually post are the majority. So out of those that voted only two or three of us have posted admitting to voting for her, even though she has 8 votes.

And since we have such small results here, here are a few others that list Rose as best:

http://bestuff.com/category/doctor-who-companion

Not sure what this site is and it's horribly formatted (and you have to vote to see results) but Rose won by a landslide here:

http://www.handbag.com/galleries/gallery/Entertainment/TV_Top_10s/whatson-drwho-companions/MemberID=12/

I can't find any more polls but all of the ones I did find (the ones I listed) she won.


Originally posted by borednow
Sad to see #10 described as The Doctor Who Pandered To Rose Too Much. Couldn't come up with something a little less bias?

Hey, at least he's winning. Poor Eccleston gets no love. :( Oh well, he's my favorite anyway.

constantine
09-03-2007, 10:07 AM
eccleston was the mo-foing bomb. And people know it. The next doctor needs to be more like him, with a world of pissed off added to the mix.

borednow
09-03-2007, 04:56 PM
I loved Christopher Eccleston's doctor, he got my vote, and btw he loved Rose too! :lol:

Estro-gen X
09-05-2007, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Yes, well, I know it's a meager K-Site poll, but even here Rose jumped right out ahead as a favorite companion in the Best Companion poll:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77994

I'm not a fanfic writer, and I'm sure not all of the other votes were from them either. What I'm seeing with Rose is...lots of people love her, just not lots of people seem willing to admit their love for her.

Let's face it, out of the 38,552 users K-Site has, I doubt those of us that actually post are the majority. So out of those that voted only two or three of us have posted admitting to voting for her, even though she has 8 votes.

And since we have such small results here, here are a few others that list Rose as best:

http://bestuff.com/category/doctor-who-companion

Not sure what this site is and it's horribly formatted (and you have to vote to see results) but Rose won by a landslide here:

http://www.handbag.com/galleries/gallery/Entertainment/TV_Top_10s/whatson-drwho-companions/MemberID=12/

I can't find any more polls but all of the ones I did find (the ones I listed) she won.



Hey, at least he's winning. Poor Eccleston gets no love. :( Oh well, he's my favorite anyway.


and the kids of course-
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_6250000/newsid_6251500/6251502.stm?dynamic_vote=ON#vote_6251502


as for eccleston

http://uktv.co.uk/drama/stepbystep/aid/590916

borednow
09-05-2007, 06:34 PM
For only doing one year Christopher Eccleston's third in both this poll and the one above is pretty impressive I'd say! :D

Torchwood
09-06-2007, 03:06 PM
I like David Tennant the best

constantine
09-08-2007, 07:43 AM
fascinating. why?

charley farley
09-08-2007, 12:28 PM
Even though i grew up with Tom Baker being the Doctor i have to vote for Christopher Eccleston as he is such a great actor.

milton fine
09-08-2007, 01:00 PM
i have to confess i didnt start getting into doctor who untill i watched the new series, i was very young when the original show ended and ive never seen the 1996 tv movie, i like david tennant as the doctor but i got attached to Christopher Eccleston's version of the doctor it was very sad to see him go .

borednow
09-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Christopher Eccleston pulls into second! :D I just loved him. He was so weirdly charming. His manic smile and near or down right suicidal love of danger were so fantastic.

Pesk
09-14-2007, 10:17 AM
David tennant.

Mary Sullivan
10-28-2007, 04:05 PM
David Tennant.

Anhedonic
10-29-2007, 03:12 PM
Tom Baker

Lexgirl33
11-09-2007, 07:59 AM
Theres a marathon on Sci-Fi today :D :D Series 2

TMLS
11-13-2007, 12:20 AM
Bought all of seasons 1 27 and 2 28 that I was missing yesterday, for a Christmas present from the missus. Can't believe we paid £6 ($12) for a disc containing Love and Monsters... they should be giving it away!

constantine
11-13-2007, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by TMLS
Bought all of seasons 1 27 and 2 28 that I was missing yesterday, for a Christmas present from the missus. Can't believe we paid £6 ($12) for a disc containing Love and Monsters... they should be giving it away!

And begging. While someone else should be making more max and paddy.

ginnyfan
02-28-2008, 10:46 AM
I haven't seen any other Doctors besides 9 & 10 but this poll makes me want to. It's daunting though. So far 10 is my favorite. He's so open and generous of spirit. He's also completely zany and like 9 has this unquenchable zest for life. All creatures, worlds... no matter how mundane... the Doctor is fascinated and invigorated by them. LOL!

Welling_is_pretty
03-04-2008, 11:47 AM
I'm not sure I really had the right to vote in this poll as I've only ever seen episodes of Doctor who with the newest 2 doctors. I have seen pics of the others (Wikipedia, of course).

But I still had to vote for David Tennet because the bits of his Doctor that I've seen are so deeply cool and wacky. So yeah, voted for DT!

TMLS
03-21-2008, 02:52 AM
You want "cool and wacky", take a look at Tom Baker :) I recommend "The City of Death" - even has a John Cleese cameo!

Welling_is_pretty
03-21-2008, 05:57 PM
You want "cool and wacky", take a look at Tom Baker :) I recommend "The City of Death" - even has a John Cleese cameo!
Thanks for the heads up! I actually stayed away from Doctor Who for a long time (and as everyone knows, the Tom Baker version is the one we Americans are most familiar with) because...well, it looked so cheesy! Worse special effects than Star Trek (the original) and plotlines that seemed silly at best and incomprehensible at worst.

I've come to appreciate the Doctor and his adventures (ok, only seen some of the newer ones) recently and would like to apologize for my short-sightedness to all DW fans.

timelord45719
03-27-2008, 09:00 AM
My favorite Doctor is Jon Pertwee. The 3rd Doctor.

susangail
07-05-2008, 02:48 PM
I grew up with Tom Baker (fab), and I'm really enjoying David Tennant, but I ultimately voted for Christopher Eccleston, because I loved the whole working-class leather-jacket thing. His 9th Doctor was so earthy, a fresh spin on "all-powerful immortal alien who knows more than mere earthlings" characters.

ThetaSigma
07-06-2008, 07:03 AM
My favourite has to be Paul McGann. OK, i know he only did that lame tv movie, but you've gotta admit he was the best thing in that film by FAR. His doctor was also the one who pretty much set the standard for me - essentially he was "my" doctor.

Shame he didn't get to do more on telly than that one movie, but at least he's been doing those excellent audio plays for Big Finish. Bloody hell, has that doctor been fleshed out: he's loved and lost, he's died and been born again as an evil being in one of the biggest dissapointments i've ever heard (seriously, why couldn't the 40th anniversary story been as BIG as Journey's End?), and he revealed to be one of the most alien and yet human doctors in Scherzo. (currently one of my favourite 8th doctor stories!)

So yeah, big fan! Let's hope he'll do SOMETHING for the time war sometime soon!

Sue Denim
07-06-2008, 07:40 AM
I haven't seen them all, I haven't seen the new episodes since it's gone back into production. I fondly recall the 6th Doctor and Tegan. I really liked Tegan and that doctor together.

Pesk
07-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Are you sure you mean the 6th doctor?

Tegan was a companion of doctors 4 and 5.

badwolf
10-31-2008, 11:18 AM
Peter Davison is my favourite Doctor. I grew up watching the old re-runs of his, but of course David Tennant comes in as a very close second. Both of them are my Doctors. I really couldn't stand Tom Baker. There was something about the way he played the Doctor that put me off. Though I did like the companions that he had. Nyssa, Tegan and Adric were (well besides Rose, Mickey, Sarah Jane and Donna) the best Companions of the Doctor Who universe in my opinion.

ChlavisFan
12-05-2008, 04:39 PM
David Tennant. He will always be MY Doctor. I love him.

WellingFan
01-17-2009, 04:16 PM
David Tennant. He is Fantastic. Best Doctor Ever!

medea
01-23-2009, 01:05 PM
David Tennant with Christopher Eccleston as a close second to me! :)

K-PrInCesSsE
01-31-2009, 03:46 AM
My favorite one is David Tennant ^^ he was the best for me ><

JosephKenny18
02-10-2009, 05:09 AM
David Tennent was great, hes a great actor and has so much energy it unreal. :D

petex
02-10-2009, 12:24 PM
My favourite doctor would be all of them because they all have great episodes.

Okay,
ive heard that in the future genny will return and so might donna suposably.
And 2 of the episodes in the specials will be filmed in america with a famous american actress.

TMLS
02-10-2009, 01:32 PM
Pete, friendly suggestion. If you put in front of your spoiler and after it then it blanks it out. Like this:

I've heard that in the future Jenny will return and so might Donna supposedly.
Also, two of the specials will be filmed in America with a famous American actress.

Though I have to say, what's that got to do with "Favourite Doctor Who"? Why not come into the spoilers board and discuss it in the "Spoiler of the Day" thread? It'd be good to have another poster in there. :)

traceylb
04-16-2009, 06:08 AM
1st Choice: David Tennant
He has been great ... although after watching Eccleston it took me most of Season 2 to adjust to him but by the end he was my definite favourite.

2nd Choice: Christopher Eccleston
In just his one season as The Doctor he portrayed him as lonely broken doctor who has lost everything really well. I loved him in the Dalek episodes.

3rd Choice: tie between Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee
These are the two Doctors that I watched when I was a kid and hence they will always be a favourite.


At the end of Tom Baker's reign I did see a few episodes with Davison and other Doctors here and there, but mostly I just recall watching repeats on TV of the Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker era. Now I think I'll head off to bed as I'm feeling quite ancient all of sudden; I just realised how long ago all this was! lol

Degobunny
07-18-2009, 08:39 AM
Tom Baker is the best what is wrong with you people!

9-SOSIHTWB
07-28-2009, 02:09 PM
David Tennant, probably because he's a fellow Scot!!!

Captain_Rickman
08-07-2009, 07:07 AM
I havent posted in this thread until now because, I just cant decide *doh* ... I still havent voted (for the same reason lol) The fact is, all the Doctors are great in their own way. I only remember the old shows from reruns. Some of the stories look a little dated now but, they're still really cool. If I had to choose only one Doctor from the old shows it would be equal first place between Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee.
From the new Doctors, I really cant decide lol (yes I know we've only seen two so far but, I still cant decide between them) Northern Doctor was the first we saw and then David Tennant was Doctor for longer. So, in a way they both *are* The Doctor.
It will be interesting to see how the new guy gets on with his monumental role.

quinny06
08-08-2009, 05:11 AM
The fact is, all the Doctors are great in their own way.

Exactly, no Doctor has been bad. I have to say Tennant, because he's my Doctor. But at the same time I LOVE the Fifth Doctor. He's just brilliant. And the First! Hartnell doesn't get talked about enough, he's just usually mentioned as the first. And probably the most important Doctor of all: Patrick Troughton!


See? It's a very hard decision to make.

Dr. Curt Connors
12-01-2009, 10:21 AM
Although I really enjoyed Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant is my favorite Doctor!

ginnyfan
12-28-2009, 07:33 AM
Christopher Eccleston was my first Doctor so ... I'm a Doctor Who newbie. I have seen a few episodes of Tom Baker's Doctor so now I understand the love for him and Sarah Jane from old school American Who fans I've met. But David Tennant is my fave Doctor. He brought so much energy and variety to the Doctor. My fave companion was Donna Noble. She and David's Doctor had so much chemistry and were such good chums. The fourth series was just rip roaring fun.

This is subject to change as I meet all the other Doctors but these are my faves right now.

Also, I did love and enjoy the Doctor/Rose love story but not the way it ended. I liked Rose a lot, better than Martha even, but Donna's my favorite. I enjoy the chummy companion relationship more than romance (requited or otherwise). Sarah Jane was also very fun in the Tom Baker years. She's delightful.

BkWurm1
01-01-2010, 11:35 PM
I've said for years that Tom Baker was the best, but Peter Davidson was my favorite. Now I know that Tennant ties up with Baker on my list and he might just do the same for Davidson. As a series over all, I do think that Tennant's time in the TARDIS was overall the best and most consistant.

I actually really liked how the Rose story ended, but I am a big romantic at heart and that is the closest the Doctor would ever get to a happily ever after. Donna really did turn out to be an outstanding companion and her story as a companion is probably the best. But as for my favorite campanion? Call me crazy but I still pick Tegan, though K-9 is a close second.

Edited to add:

So I was mulling this topic still in my head and have come to the conclusion that there is something I love about all the Doctors. When I was young, the first Doctor kind of scared me, he was gruff and dismissive but now I see that Doctor as slowly finding a reason to live again. He was so bitter and as time went on his intense curiousity won out and while he was always somewhat curt, he so clearly cared about his "companions".

I never saw enough of Patrick Troughton to give his the love he deserved. Too many of his episodes were lost to that fire, but between his special appearences later in the series and the ones that I did see, I have to appreciate his zest for life and quick tounge.

John Pertwee was my dad's favorite. How could he not be when riding around in "Bessie"? Pertwee, stuck on earth, still managed to play a Time Lord with an impressive air. He made the Brigadier a regular and for that I am very grateful. I loved the contrast between who the Doctor was going to save the day and the military around him.

Tom Baker. I really do love Tom Baker. He was kooky, manic, lighthearted, deadly serious and sometimes downright scary. He was awesome and his storylines spanned being stuck on earth to traveling the universe with ANOTHER Time Lord and Romana is wonderful in herself.

And yet, it was Peter Davidson that was My Doctor. He was earnest and clever and concerned and just a touch more human than his previous incarnations. He felt more pain I think, along the same way that David Tennant's 10th Doctor does. I really missed Davidson when Collin Baker showed up.

Collin Baker was not my favorite, probably mostly because he was such a contrast between Davidson. The change was almost too abrupt, but I appreciated him for his flaws. He roared and leaped into life and was kind of mean, but he was done with being hesitant and trying so hard and that was also an intersting contrast.

Sylvester McCoy is underrated. His was the underestimated Doctor who used that to his advantage. He didn't have that brash edge that Collin Baker did which made his Doctor more intersting to watch. His Doctor was layered and sneaky and I really enjoyed the relationship with Ace.

Movie guy Doctor, eh, what can I say,I hardly remember you, but I do remember how thrilled I was to see the movie even if it did mess with too much (enough so I ignored it's cannon) and yet that Doctor is probably responsible for letting people dream out of the box which brought about the new series.

I have to admit, right now David Tennant has so eclipsed his predecessor that I have a hard time remembering what I loved about him and only remember that I do. I guess it comes down to the maniac running.!!

quinny06
01-30-2010, 01:59 PM
Collin Baker was not my favorite, probably mostly because he was such a contrast between Davidson. The change was almost too abrupt, but I appreciated him for his flaws. He roared and leaped into life and was kind of mean, but he was done with being hesitant and trying so hard and that was also an intersting contrast.

If you watch recent interviews with Colin, he explains that his Doctor was going to develop over time, and maybe mellow out a bit. Sadly, he never got his chance.


Movie guy Doctor, eh, what can I say,I hardly remember you, but I do remember how thrilled I was to see the movie even if it did mess with too much (enough so I ignored it's cannon) and yet that Doctor is probably responsible for letting people dream out of the box which brought about the new series.

Ah, that's not fair. Say what you want about that movie's plot, or the snakeMaster, but Paul McGann was fantastic. Its a shame that was his only episode, but he did (and still does) make some great audio adventures.


I have to admit, right now David Tennant has so eclipsed his predecessor that I have a hard time remembering what I loved about him and only remember that I do. I guess it comes down to the maniac running.!!

Go back and watch The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, that's Eccelston at his best. If he hadn't have been so excellent in the role, the show might not have survived long enough for us to meet the Tenth Doctor. He's so good that its hard to be angry at him for only staying one series. Sometimes I wish he'd stayed longer, but then I remember if he did we might not have gotten Tennant.

This show really messes with your emotions.

darkraya
05-17-2010, 03:15 PM
i liked Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant. MY 2 FAVS!

i like the new doctor also. matt smith.

The Doctor's Son
05-17-2010, 05:54 PM
1st David Tennant ...I've got to watch him the most. Loved his energy and brillance. He was the doctor for much of our generation so yeah, he's the Doctor I love the most.

2nd Christopher Eccleston...He was my first doctor, and he got me introduced to the show. He was really good, although he was darker than Tennant. I liked him alot.

3rd Tom Baker ...I loved him because I liked looking at the classic Dr.Who. I can see where the new doctors got alot of their style from him. He's funny and he really felt like the doctor.

4th Matt Smith...I'm begining to like him. Although I miss tennant. He's going to make a great doctor some day.

MsNoelle
05-29-2010, 02:36 AM
I voted for David Tennant, simply because he was the last one before the current one - Mr. Matt Smith. They are the ones I am the most familiar with. As I mentioned in my introduction, I was watching bits of the show when Mr. Tennant was on. ;) :)

SnowBird
05-31-2010, 10:43 AM
Maybe someone could tell me why they keep changing actors that play Dr. Who? Thanks.

quinny06
05-31-2010, 01:37 PM
Maybe someone could tell me why they keep changing actors that play Dr. Who? Thanks.

No probs. The character of the Doctor is part of an alien species called the Time Lords. When Time Lords are fatally injured, instead of dying they undergo a process called Regeneration; where every cell in their current body is replaced by new ones, and so their appearance changes as well.

That's why the show has been able to recast the main character 11 times, and why its been able to run since 1963 without re-booting itself. An actor comes in, gives his take on the character for a few years, then hands over to another actor. In my opinon, its one of the most genius ideas in the history of television.

SnowBird
05-31-2010, 02:33 PM
No probs. The character of the Doctor is part of an alien species called the Time Lords. When Time Lords are fatally injured, instead of dying they undergo a process called Regeneration; where every cell in their current body is replaced by new ones, and so their appearance changes as well.

That's why the show has been able to recast the main character 11 times, and why its been able to run since 1963 without re-booting itself. An actor comes in, gives his take on the character for a few years, then hands over to another actor. In my opinon, its one of the most genius ideas in the history of television.

Okay, thanks for the info:)

MsNoelle
06-01-2010, 04:00 AM
No probs. The character of the Doctor is part of an alien species called the Time Lords. When Time Lords are fatally injured, instead of dying they undergo a process called Regeneration; where every cell in their current body is replaced by new ones, and so their appearance changes as well.

That's why the show has been able to recast the main character 11 times, and why its been able to run since 1963 without re-booting itself. An actor comes in, gives his take on the character for a few years, then hands over to another actor. In my opinon, its one of the most genius ideas in the history of television.


That's good to know. Since I am new to this, and was also wondering that same thing. Thank you, quinny06, for the information. It is a great help to know this.

HalJordan4184
06-01-2010, 08:49 AM
To add on though, Time Lords canonically only get 12 regenerations. Your 13th incarnation is supposed to be your last. Now there are probably loop holes, and as long as Who continues to do good, I doubt they will just stop the show at 13 Doctors.

Plus, I think it'd be nice to see a Time Lord live out his life span. We have no idea how long a Time Lord can live anyway. There is speculation it's in the hundreds of years. After all, the Doctor is 907, and all of his regenerations only lived, in the series, for less than 10 years a piece.

quinny06
06-01-2010, 09:51 AM
You know, that 13 lives things was only mentioned like twice in the classic series. So I wouldn't expect some elaborate loop hole when we come to welcome the 14th Doctor. We know the Master is way passed his 13th body.

And I wouldn't take the Doctor's word as gospel when it comes to his age. He's given quite a few contradicting answers over the years. I think it was Steven Moffat who said that the Doctor doesn't know his age anymore, he's lost track. So he's just saying things to impress people.

HalJordan4184
06-01-2010, 08:40 PM
You know, that 13 lives things was only mentioned like twice in the classic series. So I wouldn't expect some elaborate loop hole when we come to welcome the 14th Doctor. We know the Master is way passed his 13th body.

And I wouldn't take the Doctor's word as gospel when it comes to his age. He's given quite a few contradicting answers over the years. I think it was Steven Moffat who said that the Doctor doesn't know his age anymore, he's lost track. So he's just saying things to impress people.

But, the Master isn't in his original body anymore. He was brought back, after the events of the original series, and the Movie special. During the movie special, he had used all 12 regenerations before being killed on Skarro. He then took a human body over, to try to transplant himself in the Doctor, before getting a new body at some point after that. I don't believe they've ever said where it came from either.

Now, with the rings, and watches, and other things we've had, plus the overall success of the series, i doubt they'd stick with just 13 Doctor's. I don't even think it would necessarily be a huge elaborate loop hole. In fact, I expect, like you've alluded to, they'll just ignore it entirely.

newbaggy
06-02-2010, 03:42 PM
O.K., this may be a bit off-topic for this particular thread, but since we've started down this path, here is my take on the whole regeneration/age issue.

The Master (Roger Delgado version) was always depicted as being in his final incarnation - his criminal lifestyle having caused him to use up all his regenerations. This is why when the character was brought back in The Deadly Assassin (in which the 12 regeneration limit is first mentioned), he is shown as horrifically disfigured, thus allowing a different actor (Peter Pratt) to play the role. When producer John Nathan Turner decided to reintroduce the Master as a semi-regular enemy, a pseudo-regeneration was required to enable the new actor to take over. So, in The Keeper of Traken, Anthony Ainley played the elderly Councillor Tremas, only to be revealed as the "new" Master when the "old" Master merges himself with Tremas' body and morphs him from an old man into an approximation of the classic villain that we are used to (complete with goatee beard). Presumably it is this version of the Master that is executed by the Daleks in the 1996 TV movie, somehow preserving his mind within an amorphous creature that takes control of paramedic Bruce, tries to steal the Doctor's remaining regenerations and is apparently destroyed within the TARDIS' "Eye of Harmony". The Derek Jacobi/John Simm version of the Master is, by implication, a "duplicate" - a new body (with a new "regeneration cycle") into which the original's thoughts and memories have been placed in order to create the "ultimate warrior" the Time Lords needed for the Time War.

Actually, the classic series mentioned the "12 regenerations" limit more than twice. In Mawdryn Undead, the climax centres around the Doctor being forced to transfer the energy of his remaining regenerations to Mawdryn and his companions to reverse their mutations. Later, in The Trial of a Time Lord, the Valeyard - the prosecutor at the Doctor's trial - is revealed as "a distillation of the Doctor's evil side, which could exist between his twelfth and final incarnations" (again the plot involves the threat of the Doctor losing his remaining regenerations). Finally, the TV movie has the Eighth Doctor constantly inform people that he has "13 lives" (although in one scene, this is dubbed over Paul McGann saying "12 lives"), warning that the Master is dangerous because he is "on his last life" and - yet again - the story climaxes with the Doctor faced with having his remaining regenerations taken from him. As for the future, Steven Moffat has hinted that a forthcoming story will provide an explanation as to why the Doctor can now have more than thirteen incarnations.

As for the Doctor's age, the classic series is pretty contradictory. Originally, William Hartnell's Doctor was supposed to have been 760 years old according to the series "bible", but in The Brain of Morbius, the Fourth Doctor exclaims "You can't kill me now, I'm only 749! Life doesn't begin until you're 750!" and I believe that the Second or Third Doctor claimed to be "several thousand" at one point. In the 1980s, the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Doctor's all regularly claimed to be over 900 years old, with the Seventh Doctor (in Time and the Rani) reacting to the revelation that the combination on a door lock was "nine-five-three" by saying "My age - and the Rani's". Subsequently, Russell T. Davies had the Ninth Doctor claim to be over 900 years old, but than had the Tenth Doctor claim to be "903" in Voyage of the Damned and "906" in The End of Time. The Eleventh Doctor has claimed to be "907", but as quinny06 has pointed out, Steven Moffat has stated that the Doctor has no clue what his real age is because time-travelling means that he has no idea how time is passing for him - unless he makes the effort to count all the times a "day" occurs for him, he doesn't know if a "year" (Earth, Gallifreyan or other) has passed. Of course, this means that we can excuse all past inconsistencies in the Doctor's stated age as being the result of him making up a suitably large (but not too large) number on the spot to explain to whoever he is talking to that he is much older than he might appear.

MsNoelle
06-02-2010, 03:45 PM
But, the Master isn't in his original body anymore. He was brought back, after the events of the original series, and the Movie special. During the movie special, he had used all 12 regenerations before being killed on Skarro. He then took a human body over, to try to transplant himself in the Doctor, before getting a new body at some point after that. I don't believe they've ever said where it came from either.

Now, with the rings, and watches, and other things we've had, plus the overall success of the series, i doubt they'd stick with just 13 Doctor's. I don't even think it would necessarily be a huge elaborate loop hole. In fact, I expect, like you've alluded to, they'll just ignore it entirely.

I agree. I am thinking how now, especially since Matt Smith's portrayal of the Doctor, there being a brand new surgence of the series. Brand new interest brings brand new crowd of fans ( like me. :) ) And if Matt goes through his time, and changes to the next actor, I am sure it will carry on, long after Matt. ;)

MsNoelle
06-18-2010, 07:27 AM
I just wanted to comment that I like Christopher Eccleston's version of the Doctor. I like in the recent episode I saw when the female alien " Blonde" ( I think that is what they called her. The first part of her name, anyway. ) She requested to be taken out to dinner as her final request. And during the dinner, she told the doctor of all sorts of ways that she could secretly kill him. She put some kind of poison in his drink ( He had his head turned away at the time, but he knew to switch the drinks upon turning his head back to her. She tried to kill him with her nails. He caught the thing in mid-air. When she tried to kill him with her breath, he squirted a breath-alyzer ( or some thinga-ma-bob ) that nearly choked her back. :lol: I love the way he does that. He is very smart, and when he is smiling at the bad guy, he is not necessarily happy. It is like he has already devised a plan to out-do, out-smart that bad guy. Yes, I would say I like Christopher Eccleston :cool:very much. :D Too bad, he only stayed on the show for the one season. :'(

quinny06
06-18-2010, 10:53 AM
^ Agreed. I loved Chris's take on the Doctor, and its just a shame we didn't get to see more of him. It's hard to be mad at him for leaving after just one series when he's so great in the role. What's more frustrating is that, while we all have our theories, we still don't know why he only did one year (his recent comments in The Radio Times only created more questions). However, he does seem to be proud of the fact that he was the first Doctor for a whole new generation.

i_need_a_new_username
06-21-2010, 12:25 PM
^ Agreed. I loved Chris's take on the Doctor, and its just a shame we didn't get to see more of him. It's hard to be mad at him for leaving after just one series when he's so great in the role. What's more frustrating is that, while we all have our theories, we still don't know why he only did one year (his recent comments in The Radio Times only created more questions). However, he does seem to be proud of the fact that he was the first Doctor for a whole new generation.

Well, David Tennant was the first actor to be lined with the new Doctor Who show and perhaps the reason Chris only stayed for one year because David had signed on at the same time. I wouldn't particularly mind as we then would not have Matt. If I could wish for anything it would be that Chris started a year earlier.

quinny06
06-28-2010, 05:08 AM
Well, David Tennant was the first actor to be lined with the new Doctor Who show and perhaps the reason Chris only stayed for one year because David had signed on at the same time. I wouldn't particularly mind as we then would not have Matt. If I could wish for anything it would be that Chris started a year earlier.

Sorry, not sure I understand. Are you trying to say David Tennant was the first choice to play the Doctor when the show came back in 2005? Because that's just not true.

He may well have been on the list of actors being considered for the role, but it was Christopher Eccelston who called RTD and asked for an audition, and was then given the role. It was only after Eccelston told RTD he wouldn't be coming back for another series, that RTD approached Tennant and asked him if he would like to take over.

Tennant was doing Casanova with RTD at the time, and was begging just to be given any role in the new series.

White Blank Page
06-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Okay im new here but in my opinion matt smith isnt getting enough praise he is the funniest doctor yet and i constantly crack up watching the show!!
smith is really young but manages to convey an angry side to the doctor that i dont think has been explored enough in the new series-es.
tennant was too perfect (although he is my second because he is unbelievably gorgeous . . . and scottish) and the production was very fan-boy.
eccleston was too much a broken man with his swagger and leather jacket this is supposed to be a family friendly show where we as adults can comprehend the pain a being like the doctor must have been through (900 years) to childeren i just dont think he had enough magic or charisma.

i like the fact that 11 has a temper and sometimes dosent listen, i like that he is sometimes unaware of his own impact and i love the fact he gets carried away with amy up against the tardis. it makes for a more human and in my opinion better doctor.

quinny06
06-30-2010, 05:34 PM
First of all, White Blank Page, welcome! Sadly, I have to disagree with alot of what you said, :lol:.


Okay im new here but in my opinion matt smith isnt getting enough praise he is the funniest doctor yet and i constantly crack up watching the show!!
smith is really young but manages to convey an angry side to the doctor that i dont think has been explored enough in the new series-es.

This I agree with. I think my favourite line from the Eleventh Doctor so far has to be in The Lodger, when he hands Craig a bag stuffed with money and says "Here, have some rent." Something about the way Matt says that line makes me laugh every time

And yet, Matt was genuinely scary in the last few minutes of The Beast Below, and you get the feeling that his Doctor could explode in the same way at any moment.



tennant was too perfect (although he is my second because he is unbelievably gorgeous . . . and scottish) and the production was very fan-boy.

Maybe its because Tennant was the first one I saw and I'm biased, but I love his Doctor. Perfect? Maybe not, but still pretty brilliant.


eccleston was too much a broken man with his swagger and leather jacket this is supposed to be a family friendly show where we as adults can comprehend the pain a being like the doctor must have been through (900 years) to childeren i just dont think he had enough magic or charisma.

This I definitely disagree with. Eccleston was the Doctor that first introduced a generation of children to Doctor Who. If he didn't have magic or charisma, the show wouldn't have been the huge success it turned out to be. I think his Regeneration scene was better than Tennant's (my Doctor's!). Those last lines to Rose are, well, magic.


i love the fact he gets carried away with amy up against the tardis. it makes for a more human and in my opinion better doctor.

Thing is though, the Doctor isn't human. And I think getting "carried away" with any of his companions just kind of takes away that special alieness about the character. He's not one of us, he's better. Of all the relationships since the show came back in 2005, the one he has with River Song is the only one I like. It's a romance, but with a Doctor Who spin. It's not a normal love story, because the Doctor isn't a normal guy.

Anyway, hope I didn't scare you away by picking apart your post. Hey, it's a free internet, and everyone's entitled to their opinions. :)

Animation
07-01-2010, 02:37 PM
Sylvester McCoy is my favorite. Christopher Eccleston is #2 and Jon Pertwee is #3.

I hate to admit it but Matt Smith did so well I rate him tied at #4 and #5 with William Hartnell. #6 is Davison. #7 is Pat Troughton. #8 is Collin Baker. #9 is Tom Baker. #10 is Paul McGann. #11 is David Tennant.

I dig them all, however. All of them had their good points.

RyanE
07-01-2010, 09:19 PM
For the new series, I am really enjoying Matt Smith's Doctor. David Tennant's Doctor always seemed a bit hyper and rude to me, but I did like him. Ecclston I also dug.

As for classic Who, I haven't seen much. Most of the stores near me don't carry it. But I would go with Patrick Torughton, and Peter Davidson as my two favorite from the Classic era.

Miss Wendy
07-20-2010, 04:21 AM
I went for David Tennant - but I still love Tom Baker... he was the one of the first crushes I had as a girl... *SWEET_MEMORIES*

janie
05-17-2011, 08:51 AM
Too bad the new guy isn't in the poll. He's really good.

Tekken Force
05-17-2011, 10:19 AM
Too bad the new guy isn't in the poll. He's really good.
I say there should be an all new poll that includes all of them.

quinny06
05-17-2011, 11:27 AM
We have 50 pages of votes, though. Isn't there a way to just edit Matt into it?

Although, I'd like to change my vote from David to Matt. So maybe a new poll is a good idea.

janie
05-17-2011, 08:27 PM
We have 50 pages of votes, though. Isn't there a way to just edit Matt into it?

Although, I'd like to change my vote from David to Matt. So maybe a new poll is a good idea.

Having loved Tom Baker and most of the old-school Doctors (Troughton, Pertwee, Davison and McCoy) I'd dare say that this Smith fellow might be one of the best.

quinny06
05-18-2011, 03:16 PM
Having loved Tom Baker and most of the old-school Doctors (Troughton, Pertwee, Davison and McCoy) I'd dare say that this Smith fellow might be one of the best.

To be honest, he's just blew me away from day one. David was my Doctor, and while I was very positive about Matt taking over, I always thought 10 would forever remain my favourite. But by the end of Series 5, 11 and his bow-tie had just leapfrogged Mr Tennant.

Having said that, I do love Peter Davison's version. And Troughton. And all eleven of them.

Tekken Force
05-18-2011, 10:03 PM
You know I never thought much of the idea that there is one true absolute Doctor. I'd rather take it that everyone has "their" own individual Doctor.

WayneBruce
05-19-2011, 05:59 AM
In the classic series is going to be Baker. In the new series and probably all time its Tennant. He was awesome and I still think has Matt beat for the serious stuff especially when he gives the Doctor's death look plus he has some great lines that build on the Docter being a BA. Smith has done a great job, but the one element he is missing is the I am the Doctor don't screw with me. He has the speeches, but I don't get the don't screw with me, I will outright kill you. Matt comes off a little too sly in that regard.

Tekken Force
05-19-2011, 01:13 PM
Smith's great and fine I enjoy him, don't have a problem with him but I really don't think he should be compared to Tennant, who is a considerable bit older and therefore carries a lot more oomph to the role. He's more intimidating and has more of a magisterial presence about him too when he's mad.

Tennant makes me believe totally, every word he says. And he's really convincing as a weird alien as well for some reason.

Smith's fine and getting more and more into the role every time we watch him but his take on the Doctor is very bumbly and takes an awful lot of sass from Amy, there were some moments I didn't like, like when he's stabbing wildly with the stick to get the invisible monster in the Van Gogh episode, and Van Gogh is like, "what are you doing?" I just couldn't imagine the tenth Doctor acting in such a way. Yes he demonstrated great emotiveness in the Doctor's wife but Tennant is still the first Doctor I really got to know and whom I learnt about Gallifrey, Time Lords etc from.

I also dislike how Smith's performance seems to constantly be under the microscope with every single episode.

MissWofflez
05-23-2011, 08:36 AM
Out of those 10, Tennent is my best doctor (altho i barely saw the others, so i could be bias...) but Matt Smith tops them all!

whimsy
06-01-2011, 07:05 AM
My favourites are Peter Davidson, Tom Baker and Matt Smith. I was never a Colin Baker fan...he just gave out these weird vibes, and *shudders* Maybe it was his clown-ish garb that instantly freaked me out. Tom Baker is a legend, and somewhat slightly insane. Matt Smith grew on me because he's so odd looking and I think if I was The Doctor, I'd be him personality-wise. I never really liked Devaid Tennant as The Doctor. Don't get me wrong, he's a great actor and brought so much to the role, but I wasn't a massive fan of his.

Degobunny
04-20-2012, 06:26 AM
Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston!!!